WEBVTT - Kee's Birth Story

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<v Speaker 1>We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>on today. The head moved a significant amount down even

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<v Speaker 1>more into my pelvis, and I was just like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really intense, like something is going on. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I kid you not. It was on.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome back to Eat, Sleep, Shit, Repeat your

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<v Speaker 2>wildly Unhinged podcast about the madness that is motherhood and

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<v Speaker 2>everything in between. I'm Kelly McCarron and guess who's back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Key Resells.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that was a lot of energy for someone that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't slept much. Yes, she is back. Her nipples are

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<v Speaker 2>currently being used as a pacifier, but she has popped

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<v Speaker 2>out of matt Lee for the week to share her

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<v Speaker 2>birth story. And if we hear babies yelling and i'l

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<v Speaker 2>b Allen barking and actually my kitten's going crazy, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's yeah. Sorry, This is a true representation of

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like with a newborn, a toddler, a new cat,

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<v Speaker 1>a dog, and just two very unhinged people in general.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a husband somewhere around here. He hasn't come to

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<v Speaker 1>get the barking dog, but anyway, I'll send him a

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<v Speaker 1>text and hopefully he vacates soon. This is so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what a treasure it is for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have a we break from a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just also so excited. So Key gave birth two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and I'm yet to hear the tale because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I kind of wanted to hear it

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<v Speaker 2>properly in all of the entirety, Like I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>basically be you shitters at home listening to no detail spared.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love a birth story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and this one has got We got some

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<v Speaker 1>great storylines within the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you, Oh excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, I first of all wanted to start with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that I had to admit that we had

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<v Speaker 1>been keeping a wee secret from our shitters, and that

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<v Speaker 1>secret was that I told everyone, yes, that I was

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<v Speaker 1>going for a bea, but there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more to the story because we were actually trying for

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<v Speaker 1>a h back, which is a home birth after cesarean.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>King Reese had her tinfoil bray on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a big old layer and I felt real bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but my midwife had spoken to me and she's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a little bit of advice, be careful about

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<v Speaker 1>who you tell that you're having a homebirth too, because

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<v Speaker 1>people can have reactions that are written all over their

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<v Speaker 1>face and they don't necessarily mean it. And with a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of talking to but she's like, you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to keep explaining yourself to people, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want people's initial reaction to be detrimental to

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<v Speaker 1>like your success and how you're feeling about your home birth.

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<v Speaker 2>Which makes so much sense because like even people that

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<v Speaker 2>I would tell, like even though it was a secret,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really a secret. So I tell people and

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<v Speaker 2>your people would be like, oh why, And I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why she's not telling people, Like, yes, exactly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>her baby, Like let her do whatever she has and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like you were free birthing anyway you get

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<v Speaker 2>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So just about this, because I do. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite interesting to talk about. When you're doing a homebirth,

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<v Speaker 1>you engage the services of a private midwife, so on

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<v Speaker 1>the day that private midwife comes, and then a second

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<v Speaker 1>midwife is legally also required to be there so in

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<v Speaker 1>the event something happens to you. Two of them can

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<v Speaker 1>lift you or help or whatever, So there always has

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<v Speaker 1>to be two midwives present at a homebirth. It's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same as seeing a private obstetrician, except they come

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<v Speaker 1>and do all of your appointments at home. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was so fun, like sometimes Charlie would be there, Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>and Ru would be there. It was just really lovely

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<v Speaker 1>and it took us away from that hospital environment. So

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<v Speaker 1>one of the key reasons that we decided to do

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<v Speaker 1>a home birth is because we had spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time in hospital about a year ago and it

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't our lovely experience for us. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>went and had that pesky Pooh stuck in my barm,

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<v Speaker 1>we had another stint in hospital and we both kind

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<v Speaker 1>of agreed that we weren't really loving how it was

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<v Speaker 1>making us feel that we needed more of like a

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<v Speaker 1>continuity of care, like personalized care for this birth in

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<v Speaker 1>order for us to both feel like safe and secure,

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<v Speaker 1>and that ended up being a private midwife and going

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<v Speaker 1>the home birth route, So that was our decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved Charlie's reaction when you first broached it with him,

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<v Speaker 2>like you thought that he was going to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, like what are you in the woo

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<v Speaker 2>woo type thing, but he was just like yeah, why not.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so into it from the get go, which

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<v Speaker 1>was so good, so I knew it was like definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the right decision.

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<v Speaker 2>We love a supportive king.

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<v Speaker 1>And just on that my midwife, she's actually British and

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<v Speaker 1>so she had been saying, or do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get a duela because the thing about home births as well,

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<v Speaker 1>there is actually so much medical evidence to back it

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<v Speaker 1>up as to how much more successful physiological vaginal birth

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<v Speaker 1>can be. So she said, hey, something that also makes

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<v Speaker 1>your statistics higher for achieving a v back at home

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<v Speaker 1>is having a dula, so like having someone there who's

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<v Speaker 1>like just there for you emotionally rather than your midwife

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<v Speaker 1>who was typically there for you in a medical capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, well, you know, like my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend Lucy's going to be there, Charlie's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there. I love you, Like I think we're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mum was actually visiting at the time from the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>or was going to be visiting at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was a dueler for years in Dubai. She had

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<v Speaker 1>her own practice there, so she ended up being our dula.

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<v Speaker 1>They got to do their first birth together as mother

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<v Speaker 1>and daughter. So that was another really lovely thing that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of came about from it. That is so special,

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<v Speaker 1>really special. Okay, so let's get down and dirty, well,

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<v Speaker 1>shitters and kel There were a few false starts. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up work on I think what was I thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>You wrapped up work on the fifteenth. You were like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'll go over the next few days because

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<v Speaker 2>my brain's like I'm done with work. I can have

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<v Speaker 2>my baby now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And everyone was telling me, like my physio was

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to see you anymore, like you

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<v Speaker 1>are physically ready, and you're like everything soft, like your

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<v Speaker 1>cervix soft, Like I don't need to see you. I'm done,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you post Natalie, And I'm like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>And then my midwife was like, yeah, you're looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was thirty seven weeks. I did not give birth

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<v Speaker 1>to forty one weeks on the dots. So there were

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<v Speaker 1>many false starts in that time period. It was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a month, It's a whole month. I was

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<v Speaker 1>literally like, fuck, I could have worked for another month.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have couldn't though I was not feeling good,

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<v Speaker 1>you're off it. I was so off it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>off everything. To be honest, I was real big grumple

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<v Speaker 1>stilt skin. But yeah, there were many false starts that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of in that, I think I got to

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty eight weeks and I got to thirty nine weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, what the Hell's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I realized like, I've just got to like

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<v Speaker 1>let go, because I think I was so convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to happen that it was almost like

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<v Speaker 1>not letting it happen. So I really had to just

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<v Speaker 1>like give in and I just had to do one

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<v Speaker 1>thing a day and keep planning, Like I was like

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<v Speaker 1>crossing days off the calendar, and I stopped at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine weeks, like putting it on there. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, I'm just going to right up

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<v Speaker 1>to forty two weeks just to give myself a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more anyway. So yeah, Emma, my midwife, was just like, Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to relax, like just take everything off your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure out if there's just like spin something on your

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<v Speaker 1>mind that's like niggling at you. So with the false starts.

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<v Speaker 1>I had like a bit of mucus plug fallout on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday, and I was like, we are so on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking after Rue laying on the couch and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, things are starting to get spicy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like my cramps are cramping right now. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>messaged Charlie and I was like, hey, I Reckon, you

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<v Speaker 1>should come home just because things are starting to heat up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I called my sister in law and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, just letting you know, lost a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of my plug and my cramps are cramping. And she's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there in an hour to get Rue. That

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<v Speaker 1>was so nice, But I think what happened is that

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<v Speaker 1>I then realized I had this like freak out that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, this is literally the last time

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a FA family of three, Like

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna go and her whole life's going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>And I completely wigged out, and I actually think I

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<v Speaker 1>packed myself out. So Ru got picked up and then

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<v Speaker 1>everything went away, like everything. I had no cramping. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like my cervix was like like closed itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the night that you were also vomiting in

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<v Speaker 2>diarrhea though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that happened to me twice, so twice before that

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<v Speaker 1>plot came out. So that's the thing. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>me thinking I was going to go at thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine weeks. It was like I'd have these things

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<v Speaker 1>where I'd open my bows, be vomiting, and then nothing

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<v Speaker 1>would happen. There was one of those instances that I

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<v Speaker 1>was having to like breathe through. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that they were like contractions, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a strong cramp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I really had to breathe through them. So but

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<v Speaker 1>as my doller kept saying to me, they're not false starts.

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<v Speaker 1>That is your body starting the process. Like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>long process. She was like to me, remember you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>dilated fully before, so if there's a bit of work

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be done, you know that first. Like

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<v Speaker 1>six centimeters should be pretty normal.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you get to with rue for six centimeters

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<v Speaker 2>over several days?

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<v Speaker 1>Over two days? Yeah? Yeah, so it finally happened. Tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know everything, because it was a day that I all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden I realized that you'd gone really dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy had gone dark, and Lucy never goes dark, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's on. And I sent you a

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<v Speaker 2>message saying you've got this.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy pushing, you can get this baby out or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just so aggressive with my ha. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're in labor because you and Lucy are both dark,

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<v Speaker 2>happy pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Day, I had, like, was making breaky in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and I was like, oh, yuck, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, when you're just pregnant and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of sweat and things fluids coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of down there. And I was like, oh, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot yuck. And then but anyway, I made my

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<v Speaker 1>toast because food comes first, and then I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and I was like, w that is the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my mucus plug, like a big amount of

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<v Speaker 1>my mucus plug. And I was like, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on here. So I texted midwife Adulla. I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my mucus plug just came out, So

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<v Speaker 1>just giving you guys a little heel that we might

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<v Speaker 1>be on here. Charlie came home as usual that night.

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<v Speaker 1>We put rude down the whole day, nothing, no, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>But do you know what I did that day was

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<v Speaker 1>like on my head. I was like, oh, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>been so ready for a month. The house was like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a bit in shambles, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>life having a toddler all of that, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to like fold everything and put everything away because

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like some washing out and blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to just you know, spruce it up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So I did that that day, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I sat down and watched like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of TV. So the day went really quickly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>swear that was the thing that had been on my

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<v Speaker 1>mind that was annoying me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like the messy house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just the messy house needing to get ounder control anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So we put rud to bed and then I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch. I'm just so uncomfortable because the baby

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<v Speaker 1>was so low at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>If baby was hanging between your.

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<v Speaker 1>Legs, literally, I could not sit, babe. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>position that I could sit or lay in that was comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It was bad. Walking. I was like waddling like i'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like I was a caricature of a person

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<v Speaker 1>who was pregnant, like I was so dramatic. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm embarrassed about how dramatic I'm being in

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<v Speaker 1>this pregnancy above all of the other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's not that common to go to forty one weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with your second child.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, it turns out it is, because remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I put it up on my Instagram and everyone's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was engaged at thirty six weeks and didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>birth to forty two plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Who three And I'm like, oh wow, Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize it was that common.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it can be anything. That's what I learned as like,

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<v Speaker 1>the baby will come when it comes, and it's its

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<v Speaker 1>own personality. It's whether it's stubborn, it's whether it's comfy

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<v Speaker 1>in there, whatever. This baby was like I'm feeling good

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<v Speaker 1>and he I don't know about you, but I'm feeling good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm not feeling good. Get the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>out anyway. So we are brushing our teeth and I

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<v Speaker 1>sit down on the toilet to do a wee and

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<v Speaker 1>then I felt a massive drop of the head. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard people say this, so it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy for it to happen, but like the head

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<v Speaker 1>moved a significant amount down even more into my pelvis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, whoa, that was really intense,

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<v Speaker 1>like something is going on. And then I kid you not,

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<v Speaker 1>it was on. It was on straight away. So that

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of kicked off at ten PM as we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to bed, and for the next kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half, I was just trying to breathe

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<v Speaker 1>through the contractions basically, So I was laying down trying

0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.199
<v Speaker 1>to breathe through but not really getting any reprieve. So

0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I was finding it really difficult. And then the only

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<v Speaker 1>position that was like really comfortable for me was standing up,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was bad because my legs like was so

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<v Speaker 1>sore by the end of it. So about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half and I said to Charlie like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to call Nikki the dueler over

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<v Speaker 1>just because I need help with like how to get

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<v Speaker 1>through these contractions. Like I feel like they're just coming

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<v Speaker 1>so fast and so quick that I need her there

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like be doing kip squeezes and just

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<v Speaker 1>like coaching me through. Cheerleader yeah exactly. So Charlie's like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get her over. So she came over. She was

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen minutes away, so she got here and so

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<v Speaker 1>that was about midnight. She arrived. She was really great.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just like coaching me through it. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. And as soon as she kind of got there,

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<v Speaker 1>I relaxed a little bit more because I felt like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie's there for me emotionally, but she's there for me

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<v Speaker 1>as well, like to get me through it technically and

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out like what to do. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>trying a bunch of different positions and then she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you do some sideline just to rest your legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, So in our room, we just

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<v Speaker 1>had like a little mattress on the ground that I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of laboring on.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Rue just sleeping through you laboring? Rue was asleep

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<v Speaker 2>at this stage, sort of quiet.

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<v Speaker 4>Then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So interestingly, for Roux's birth, I was really quiet

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I didn't make any noise, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same for this labor. I didn't make any noise.

0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I was more like breathing, really controlled breathing. I felt

0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like that was the thing that was gonna help me

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<v Speaker 1>the most. So then yeah, I'm sidelining and my waters break.

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<v Speaker 2>What did that feel? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Warm gush of water that did not stop for ages?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I can you know when you can just

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<v Speaker 1>like sense someone's like oh, I saw the doeler's face,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, and then she kind of like tried to

0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.480
<v Speaker 1>take a picture really slide. She's like, I'll just be

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<v Speaker 1>back in a second. And I was like, okay, she's

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.040
<v Speaker 1>calling Emma because there's definitely maconium in my waters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you got that just from her face?

0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Or could you smell it? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I listened to so many birth stories that like,

0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just know. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had a sense anyway, and she came back and she's like, okay, well,

0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I've just let Emma know that your waters are broken

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<v Speaker 1>and she is going to come over. So Emma got

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<v Speaker 1>here at like one or two am. She was like, Okay,

0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of maconium in your waters. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened is that as your waters are coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting clearer and clearer. So it's not uncommon for

0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:26.520
<v Speaker 1>babies to do who before they go into labor, they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of empty their bows. But if it was like

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<v Speaker 1>consistently dark maconium. Then we would know that the baby

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<v Speaker 1>was in distress. So she checked the feet or heart rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was fine, did my obs, like my blood pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was all good. So she was really happy for

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<v Speaker 1>us to continue to labor, and I felt confident in

0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that as well. But then things started obviously getting even spicier,

0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't think that they could get spicier because

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<v Speaker 1>I was fucking red hol at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Lucy here?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>And so after kind of Emma gets here, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I need to call Lucy because in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind I was like this, this is happening so fast

0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that she's going to miss the birth at this rate.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just called Lucy and I go hey, and

0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.840
<v Speaker 1>she's like, is it happening. I'm like, yep, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get here now.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, for goodness sake, thanks, I've had my

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<v Speaker 2>phone on laud all night, every night for the past month.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that was it. And then I just like

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<v Speaker 1>hung up the phone. And so she appeared and she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, did she have the cake? No?

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<v Speaker 1>There was no cake. There was no cake. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no time for cake, let me tell you. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like saying to everyone, can you guys get the

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<v Speaker 1>pool ready, like I need to not feel like I

0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.800
<v Speaker 1>need to be in water like right now. So with

0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the home birth, you get access to a birth pool

0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that they give you as well as like a tens

0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>machine and other things to help you. We had birth combs.

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<v Speaker 1>Birth combs are fucking amazing, I will say that. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're just little mini combs that are that can be

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<v Speaker 1>made out of anything. But howls are made out of

0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like bamboo. We just got them of farmers on. They

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<v Speaker 1>were dirt cheap withought. I'm in a pair of two

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<v Speaker 1>and what you do is you have this pressure point

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<v Speaker 1>between your thumb and your pointer finger and your palm

0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and you bend the comb into that pressure point. When

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.720
<v Speaker 1>you're having a contraction, you push on it and it

0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.560
<v Speaker 1>just distracts your mind because it's like a different pain

0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and it also released. And that was what I did

0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:19.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty much from ten PM until I got into the

0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.640
<v Speaker 1>berth pool around like four And that was a wow.

0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Like I wanted to get into the water because I

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.040
<v Speaker 1>just didn't want like I wanted to float around and

0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of just have warm water around me. But the

0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.679
<v Speaker 1>birth comb one hundred and ten percent the Tens machine.

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<v Speaker 1>This time around, I was like, get it away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, it's not working for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate it. I hate it. I hate it. And Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>was like, fuck, that was like my thing from last

0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.560
<v Speaker 1>time that I was like contributing, like the Tens guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I got I'm the Tens guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, babe, I don't want to tell you

0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:50.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking I hate it. Get away from me. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>got it. So he's filling up the pool and then

0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>we hear a little scuffle of the feet and little

0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.199
<v Speaker 1>root Cearles appears. I was just like, fuck, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>three four am. I don't really want to call, even

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 1>though it would have been fine to call my sister

0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.400
<v Speaker 1>in law, but I was just like, if she's sweet,

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of fine for her to be here. I

0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.239
<v Speaker 1>don't want her to be here on the business end

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.680
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it's a little bit too much

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for her at that age. But I was like, let's

0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.119
<v Speaker 1>just see how she goes. And she was amazing. She

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.800
<v Speaker 1>was just like super inquisitive, watching everything from the sidelines,

0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just like would bring me her toys and say like

0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.399
<v Speaker 1>here's lying for your mummy to help you. And I'm like,

0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:32.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you, baby.

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.000
<v Speaker 2>They have got the purest hearts, don't they?

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.320
<v Speaker 1>They really do, And like she knew everyone right, so

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.720
<v Speaker 1>she knew Emma midwife. She spent a bit of time

0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.119
<v Speaker 1>with Nicki as well, because in the Nicki had been

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<v Speaker 1>here for a month, had to extend her trip twice

0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.320
<v Speaker 1>because it was no baby, so they were coming over regularly,

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<v Speaker 1>so Rue was like super comfortable with them, and obviously

0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Lucy is really close with Rue, so she felt super

0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.920
<v Speaker 1>comfortable and safe with everyone there. And I think that

0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.680
<v Speaker 1>made like obviously a really big difference. So the pool

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.639
<v Speaker 1>finally is ready because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a small body of water like I can

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 2>imagine then you waiting and it's like taking its sweethearts

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.400
<v Speaker 2>don't feeling up and you're like, oh my god, oh.

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.840
<v Speaker 1>The thing is. It fills up quickly, But the fuck

0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>our tap water it's like came out at forty seven degrees.

0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>It has to be thirty seven to birth, Like that's

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the temperature that you want, Like the baby cannot be

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>birthed into cold water, but ours is ten degrees high

0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.000
<v Speaker 1>as so Charlie, bless.

0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Them, he's so specific though.

0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like the warmth of maybe your

0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>tummy inside that the baby's in. I don't know, that's

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>just a guess. But when they told me it was

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven degrees, I was like, please, please, don't let

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.800
<v Speaker 1>this baby come during a fucking heat wave. I'm going

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.879
<v Speaker 1>to be getting like my forty degree apartment into my

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:46.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven degrees like gross. But luckily the winds had

0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.760
<v Speaker 1>changed that day, dyl and it was very cool for

0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>laboring was so good anyway. So I'm like, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with the pool?

0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm trying to stay really calm, but I'm like

0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.440
<v Speaker 1>every single person that came up to me was like,

0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>what's happening with the pool? I want to get in there.

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Busson was trying to bring the temperature down by

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>ten degrees by putting cold water in. He got it

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to forty and Emma was like, just let her get in.

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 1>She really wants to get in. So I got in

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:17.639
<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, instant relief. That fucking water. Oh

0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it just felt so good. I felt. I just felt relaxed,

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you're also weightless, right because you're floating. So yeah,

0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just really great to have that, and it was

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>just really nice to then have everyone kind of standing

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 1>around me. Were they chanting, No, there was no chanting.

0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>We had lots of music on and we had like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh good, good good, kind of these like fake candles

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 1>that we bought off Amazon just like scattered around. So

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.119
<v Speaker 1>it was very like Castle esque or.

0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.920
<v Speaker 2>The one that you tricked me with. What was this

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.679
<v Speaker 2>did I drink in when you sent me a selfie

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 2>like a week before?

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.480
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my god, there's candles in

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the background. Oh my god, we're in business. And then

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't ride back for ages and she was like,

0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>oh no, we've just been setting the mood every night.

0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 1>We had been every fucking night, Clarius Adoyle, fake candles,

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 1>every bloody thing. She still just came when she wanted

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to come. Yeah. So we're in the bath, everyone's standing

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>around and Rue is just like so hilarious. At this point,

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>She's just like up in my face, just like giving

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.119
<v Speaker 1>me like a little cold compress and then she like

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>disappears and reappears with her like frozen deck chair that

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.919
<v Speaker 1>she has. It's like this deck chair that her grandma

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.439
<v Speaker 1>got over Christmas a couple of years ago, and she

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 1>pushes the deck chair like right up to the front

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of the pool and just like takes a seat as

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.640
<v Speaker 1>if it's an actual pool. Okay, she's just like got

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a front row ticket to mum giving birth. And I

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>was just like, everyone's pissing themselves laughing.

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, I need to be comfortable so I

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 2>can enjoy the show.

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I've been standing for long enough. I also

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>need a little bit of comfort right now. Anyway, So

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that was just beautiful. She is so funny, she's hilarious.

0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>So it started getting even more intense, I guess, but

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was so.

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Weird, like what time's this now?

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 1>This is four or five am. And I probably stayed

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>in there till about six thirty, and then I was like, okay,

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I need to change it up. They were like, why

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>don't you try. I'm sitting on the toilet because that's

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like a really well the toilet and a berth stool.

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>My god, it's just like the exact angle that you

0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:30.120
<v Speaker 1>need for a baby to like increase your surges your contractions.

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.280
<v Speaker 1>So we did that for a bit.

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 2>How many centimeters were you at that point? Like were

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 2>they checking?

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>They were not checking. So yeah, we weren't doing any

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 1>vaginal examinations only when we absolutely needed to. But even then,

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe when she got there, I think I

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>was already at six and then later on I got smaller.

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you that in a second. Anyway, so

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I need to change it up. They're like, hey, yeah,

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.959
<v Speaker 1>let's go. Let's try birth stool. So we're trying like

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the birth stool, which was really good. It made it

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>so intense. We were trying like kneeling and then leaning on

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the couch, which was really good. We went back and

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>did sideline for a little bit, did the toilet.

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Then I realized the sun was coming up, and I

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, fuck, okay, I think Roote needs to well

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like seven am. I was like, Roue needs to

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>go to daycare and things are firing up here.

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling mentally at this point? You've been

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of pain, no pain relief, Like I

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>know this is what you wanted, but how are you

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:28.360
<v Speaker 2>feeling mentally?

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I was feeling okay, you know, like I was really calm,

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>but I was like feeling I was saying like I don't.

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it, guys, I can't do it, and

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>they're like you can, you can remember.

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Lice he played the playlist.

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. She played all of these videos from

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>my friends, voice notes from my friends and also my godmother,

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>my godparents from overseas, and that was like beautiful and

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>she did like bring one out at like the right

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 1>time when I was just having like a little crisis

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>of confidence or just being like because I just thought

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>like every fucking contraction was so intense, and I was

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>just like I can't do it. And they'd be like,

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you literally just did it, though, you just did it,

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, okay, yeah, I just did it. I

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.479
<v Speaker 1>just did it. I just gonna remember I am doing it.

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>And I was like that what the doueler was so

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>good about, because she just kept saying to me, but

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 1>you are, like you are doing it, and you're so calm,

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you're so composed. It doesn't matter how you birth, like

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be calm and composed. But she's

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>like you're okay, like you're getting through it all, like

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it's hard, it's meant to be hard, and I'm like, yeah,

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you're right, okay, and then Emma, my midwife, was like

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, Okay, I need you to go and rest

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.120
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit because I feel like you're getting tired.

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I need you and Charlie to go lay down on

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the bed for a little bit and rest because I

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like we've been going for a while and we've

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>just kind of reached like a bit of a block.

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what words she used, but I need

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you to go and rest for a while. But what

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>had happened is that I had also started to have

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 1>involuntary pushing. So basically my body was like during a contraction,

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>my body was like trying to expel the baby, right, so.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Our bodies are wild, Like that's wild.

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was actually so excited about this because I

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>had heard like not all women get that sensation, but

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like I was so excited when it started happening because

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, like this is such

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>a cool thing to experience, you know, like this is

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>when the baby is in the right position, When you

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>have that involuntary pushing, that's often how the baby like

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>comes out. So I was like, oh my god, this

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>is awesome. And then she's like, I need you to

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>go have a rest. And if you can, I need

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you to not push, because what has happened is that

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>your cervix is you've got a cervical lip. So basically

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>what that means is like the baby comes down pretty much,

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it has to be like on a target with your cervix.

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>If the baby's slightly off, the cervix doesn't like dilate evenly,

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and you end up having like too much cervix on

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 1>one side and the baby's kind of trying to push

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>through and you're not properly dilated. So she's like, I

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>just need you to stop pushing for a bit so

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>we can see if some of that inflammation of your

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>cervix comes down. And I was like, well, so you

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>want me to not push when my body does like

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the involuntary pushing, and she's like, yeah, I know, it's

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>really hard, and I was just like fuck. So, like

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I said to Charlie, like, how many do you reckon?

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like breathing through and letting through, and he

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, it was like fifty to fifty.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you would breathe, breathe, breathe, breathe, breathing, and you

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 1>would let like two through. And I was just like fuck.

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>So we laid down for a while. Some really beautiful

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>pictures actually that Lucy took of Charlie and I just

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like laying there in bed and cuddling and

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>he's just like, you can do it. And then she's like,

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I also want to try some front lying in versions.

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>So it basically I had been doing these and the

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>lead up to the birth, but one of them, for instance,

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>was like on the edge of the bed, bringing my

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>top leg forward and like my belly, letting my belly

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>fall over the side of the bed, and with gravity

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 1>it kind of sometimes can spin the baby a little

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>bit to get into a better position. But she was like, Okay,

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we need you to do this, and I was like

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that. It was like that is too painful,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>and she's like I need you to do it, and

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, let's do it. She's like you

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't take much negotiation.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like I really don't want to do this

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>because it was just so painful, and I was like,

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 1>any any additional thing that I'm doing is just like

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 1>freaking me out. Anyway, So we did a few of

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>those and I'll be like, how long are we holding

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>for and she'd be like, we need a hold for

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a minute. I was just like, oh my god, this

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>was fun, Like I haven't been doing my pilates lately,

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>very fit. It was honestly so intense because it's like

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>your whole belly hanging off the side. It just wasn't

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the feeling that you want in the process of labor.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>It just was like kind of a yucky feeling. And

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>then we did another position which I cannot, for the

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>life of me remember what it was, but it was

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like rocking the apples, so you're like kneeling and then

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>leaning onto like the bed and then they get like

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a wrap. So I think we just had like a

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>terry towel, like a Terry beach towel. They put it

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>under your booty and then they just like wobble from

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>left to right basically, and it actually feels fucking amazing

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that one didn't have to that good and that kind

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of can jiggle the baby into place. Anyway. We did that,

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, oh, I need to get

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 1>out of the bed, Like I just want to get

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>out of bed. I had also been vomiting a lot,

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but they were worried because I hadn't done a wee

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in ages, so they were like, I think what's happened

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>is that you've been drinking heaps of water, but you're

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>not getting a sensation to wei because obviously everything's so

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>smushed down there. What we're going to do and I

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>wish I could remember what the term was, but instead

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>of putting a catheter in, they basically put something into

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>your urethra and they drain it. So instead of doing

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>a catheter. So what can happen, right, is it if

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you've got a full bladder, The full bladder can be

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>impacting how the baby's coming down, right, So the head's

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like not coming down completely on target because the bladder

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>is so full.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Logistically it makes sense.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was like, oh, here we go. Okay.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>So they did like an empty for me, and it

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>was so much wee so much?

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it painful? It sounds painful.

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>No, it was like a relief. No, they just gone

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.959
<v Speaker 1>through urethra. I actually have quite a nice urethra. I've

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>had to do a lot of this because I've had

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that underactive bladder.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>How do you know what your urethra looks like?

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But when I went to the hospital.

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>They said I had a beautiful urethra. I think it

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>just means I have a big one and it's easy

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>to get a fucking carpeter into my board.

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I've got a wide set urethra.

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so they emptied that, and that actually did feel good.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It felt good to get that out. And then I

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>just said to them, Okay, I need to get out

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of this bed, like I feel like I need to

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>change up the energy. I feel like I need to

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>sit on the toilet. But that just increased my pushing

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>because of the fucking the.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm on the toilet, I'm pushing.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just also gravity. It's everything. It's like how they

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>tell you, like the optimal way to push is by

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>putting your feet on a little stool and sitting on

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the toilet. Same like that setup is really good for birthing.

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like too powerful. I was like, oh, that's too powerful.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I've got to get out of here. And then they

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>were like, okay, we want you to come and lay

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>down in the lounge, just on your other little thing

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>there and we'll just do your obs. And at the stage, like,

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>what time is it at this point, maybe eight or

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>nine am? So the whole time this is happening, that

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>involuntary pushing contractions are still happening, right and I'm trying

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to breathe through them, but a lot of them are

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>getting through. And I did notice that I had a

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of blood that had started coming out as I

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>was moving around, which I didn't really have before. I

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just had that clear liquid. But I had a bit

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of blood and kind of thought to myself and my head, oh,

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's like a flag. So when we

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>went down, she was doing my obs and my blood

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>pressure spiked and my heart rate spiked, and they were like, okay,

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to give her some fluids. So I had some.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>They gave me like an ivy bag of fluids because

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>they just thought maybe I'm really dehydrated. So they were

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to see if that would kind of stabilize everything.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>It didn't. Like my heart rate was still really high.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing that happened was the baby's

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>heart rate decelerated. It went down. So Emma came and

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>sat with me and she's like, key, we've had three markers,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>so we've had the spike and your blood pressure, we've had.

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Your heart rate is really high. We're struggling to get

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it down, and you've also got a bit of blood

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, those are markers for a scar tear.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So that and also the fact that the baby's heart

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>rate decelerated when we were doing checking. She's like, I'd

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>like us to go into hospital. I think as a precaution,

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure that we are we need to

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>be should anything happen. The one thing we wanted to

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>do was labor at home for as long as possible,

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like with Rue, we just didn't know

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>enough right first time parents giving birth, we just didn't

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>know enough. We actually stayed at home for quite a

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>long time in comparison to other people. But we were

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>listening to an app that was saying, your contractions are

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so close together, go to hospital, go to hospital, like

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and we went to hospital and that kind of started

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>us down the path of rus birth. But this time

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>we got to really stay at home. We got to

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>do the laboring that we did, try everything, We got

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to use the pull. At that point, I felt like, yeah,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I need something to actually stop the involuntary pushing, because

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>she was saying to me, the reason you have started

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>bleeding is because your servix is so inflamed and that

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>is just blood from your cervix, but it's as a precaution,

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of these things together. And I was like, okay, cool,

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, Like I feel fine to do that. And

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I just said to her, do you think I'm going

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to have to have a cesarean? And she said, yeah,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that that will be the likely scenario. So

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the decision was made not to call an ambulance because

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we weren't in an emergency. And also if we had

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>called an ambulance, they would have had to do obs

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and like basically do a whole thing.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling?

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I was feeling emotional. I was feeling that the thing

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that was detrimental to what was going on was involuntary pushing,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted that to stop. And I was just like,

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I just want that sensation to be taken away because

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm really struggling now to I mean, I had been

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>dealing with that for two and a half hours, right

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I And I was trying not to push against what

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>my body was wanting me to do. So I felt relief,

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess because I felt relief in that Okay, I'm

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna meet my baby soon regardless of what happens. And

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I felt relief in that the experience I had was

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>still really beautiful, Like it felt like it was a

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>really posit that of experience, and I knew that I

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>had done everything in my power at that point.

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 2>It was literally your body that like, well one part

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>of your body that wasn't letting you progress.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and it's just unfortunate. And the thing is you

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>can persevere and continue to labor with a cervical lip,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>but for us and those markers, it was just like

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>not worth it. For us, well not not worth it.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just like to labor then for another day

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>or so with no guarantee that it would happen. So

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that was for our choice to do that. Charlie like

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>six four, he ran to get the car. He was

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>back in two minutes and I was like, do you

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>think I had packed a hospital bag at forty one weeks?

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>No, of course you didn't.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous.

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>We were like, oh, we'll pack that during the labor.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>It'll give us something to do. So I'm going to Lucy, Lucy,

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I've poked my hospital bag and she's like, I'm on it,

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>so she's like throwing stuff in. It was fine, you

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>don't need like that much. But I was like, I

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need anything, you just need few things exactly. I

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>was like, put the adult diapers in.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Put those bloody diapers back here. I love those things.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I noticed, yes, and the other day when I was

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>talking to you that you had one, and I was like,

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>key in those diapers. She loves them.

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Honestly. I'm like, literally almost stop bleeding after like two weeks,

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh no, I don't have to wear

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>normal undies again. It's just so nice.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Just chuck them in the ben when you're just going

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to pretend that she's still bleeding simply so that she

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>can wear them.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Literally. So we get in the car, so it's me

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and Charlie and Adula. Niki in the back, who's wedge

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>between two car seats. She's tiny, she's like five feet

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>so it was fine. And then Lucy and Emma are

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>in the car behind us. Oh, I forgot to say.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Sorr the second midwife had been there for ages, just

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like pottering around waiting for her thing, and she was

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>really lovely.

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh what was her name, Kate. It's a full house

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of house.

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 1>And the dog was there too, obviously pottering around.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, of course I'll be allen.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>He was good though, he didn't hit him, bark or

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. So Kate stayed behind. And this is

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the other great thing about having a private midwife. They

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>clean the house for you. They drain the pool, they

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>pack the pool down, they take everything away, so you

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>come home to like a really neat house. We just

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>had some washing and laundry that we needed to put

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on and that was it.

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's so good, so so good.

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so the car ride to the hospital was about

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>as good as you'd expect it to be. It was

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>fucking terrible. I thought I was really loud, but Nikki

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, you didn't make her sound, so in my

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>head I was going fuck.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but in reality you were just like.

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you did squeeze my hand a little hard. Anyway,

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>we get to the hospital and Emma's like, just parking

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the five minute parking thing. It's fine if you're like,

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>if they give you a ticket, we can just say

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it's to the birth whatever. So we pull in and

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>it's Simon's right, Royal Women's. Yeah, in Sydney, amazing hospital,

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the greatest, the best, the best, and I can't walk

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Guys like I am, yeah, deary, pushing is still happening.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>And also the contractions were on top of each other

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>so they were not stopping, so it was like it

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>was just fucking mental. I was just like, how is

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.479
<v Speaker 1>this happening? This is so crazy? Sorry, I was making

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>noise with the involuntary stuff, like if I couldn't breathe

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>through it, then I was like like letting it out.

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.479
<v Speaker 1>And would you believe that happened in the car park

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in the front of the hospital, just everyone there, and

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like it was like out before.

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 6>No.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 1>But I was just like in my head like, Okay,

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>this is just so funny. These people are leaving.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Did they still make you do a COVID test as

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>you enter? No?

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>No, no one did. It's so lax. Emma went and

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 1>got me a wheelchair, so that was good. And luckily

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like right there, you just go straight into the

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>lifts and up to the berth suite and we went

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>into the room and they're like, sorry, we don't have

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>any big rooms, and they wheeled me into what is

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the biggest room I've ever seen in my life. What

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>do you mean this is a small room? This is

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like the same size as my private room. When I

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>burst threw like, I was like, what do people expect?

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I was expecting nothing. Public hospital was expecting.

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Like like a tiny room.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I would just be happy with whatever I got, Like

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting it all for free care.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, it's public. Yeah.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.439
<v Speaker 1>But it was a massive room. It had like four

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>chairs in it. I mean I was like, fuck it,

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>it's bigger than my apartment almost anyway. So we get

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in there and I'm straight onto the gas, and let

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 1>me tell you, the gas was good, but the contractions

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>were so big that it wasn't really touching the sides.

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like thinking, are they just give me fucking oxygen?

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Like is this in my head? I would never say

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>this out loud, obviously, but I was like, is this

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 1>just oxygen? Anyway? It wasn't, and I just said to them,

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I just want to stop the involuntary pushing because like

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it's really scaring me about how intense it is. And

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, yeah, we're going to do that. We're

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>going to give you something for that. So they're like

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we're just waiting for the obstetricians to come. The obstetricians

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>came and it was three women, and I was like,

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I just said to them, I cannot tell you how

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>amazing it is to see three female obstetricians. I'm so happy. Yes,

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>because what had happened is as we're going to the hospital,

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, Okay, the thing about having a vback but

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>also a H back is that there can be a

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of judgment, right, And I was worried that us

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 1>coming in was going to be like, oh great, here

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>come the you know, the hippie dippies with their h

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>from home. Yeah, coming into the hospital. But everyone was

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>so lovely. Everyone was like, okay, so you're coming in, like,

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>let's do a vaginal examination just to see where we're out.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Like they've got to do the whole thing obviously, and

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like, wow, okay, you've actually gone up to seven centimeters.

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>So I think what happened is because I was like,

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>on the way to the hospital, I knew that the

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>baby was going to be here, and a few hours

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>ish that maybe my body had relaxed a little bit,

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and then my servics had dilated a little bit. So

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>they were like so we actually could still have a

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>chance here at birthing vaginally. And I was like, oh

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>my god, Like I didn't even think that was like

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. So they said, Okay, what we'll do is

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we'll give you an epi dural and then we will

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>see how that goes. And they did say, like, look,

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing about an epi durl is that we need

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it because we need you to stop the involuntary pushing.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>But the thing about an epidural is that every it

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>can slow everything down. So we might be kind of

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>like counteracting and a little bit here, but let's give

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it a go. This was the only bad experience at

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the hospital. Everyone else was fucking rainbows and butterflies, so supportive,

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>so nurturing, so loving. The anetheist comes in, lovely guy,

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the kindest eyes I've ever seen. The senior an ethetist

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>walks in now, because this anetheist hadn't practiced at this hospital.

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>He's he's been working for years, like he's like our

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>age or a little bit older. This was his first

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>day at this hospital, so he needed to be supervised

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>by a senior attendant there. And this guy is us,

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>like this old prick of a guy. So I'm having

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>these involuntary pushing contractions and he doesn't give a shit,

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm saying to them, I cannot sit still. And

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it's lucky that Emma was in the room. Like Emma

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>used to work at this hospital, so she knows everyone,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like she knows the Oh my god, my boob's fully leaking.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that you've just wasted milk.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I was like, oh my.

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 2>God, look I feel a bit moist. Look at you,

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 2>you little milk machine.

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Milk machine. Anyway, and that was just like an awful experience.

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>And who I felt worse for was the actual anethetist,

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>because what would happen is he's administering something and I've

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>just gotten through a contraction. I'm like, Okay, the contraction's finished,

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, okay, I'm going to do the first

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>step now, and he does it, and then the fucking

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>guy that's supervising is like, and why would you do that?

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So like testing him while he's doing it, and he's.

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Like he's only got like ten seconds.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and bless the guy, he's like he's like trying

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>to speak so quickly. He's like, ah, I would do

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>this because then I would do that.

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Da da da da da.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, in my head, I'm going to

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>bless you your kind soul, like thank you so much.

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>He was trying his hardest, but this this guy, like

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to sit up to get into the

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>position for them to administer the thing, and he like

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>put his hands on me, like he was like pulling me,

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like anyway, And when I had to

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>lay back down again, he was like pushing me, and

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I said to him, please don't push me. I'm in

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pain, like I'm trying to move in

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a way that is least painful for me. And his

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>answer was, we are the priority here, the anethetist, And

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, in.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.240
<v Speaker 2>My head, I'm my father in labor, the old doctor.

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 2>He's the priority.

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.439
<v Speaker 1>And I just think he's one of those guys who

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 1>thinks that women are hysterical when they're having pain.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 2>He's one of those guys that would like institutionalize us all.

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Exactly the Emma the midwife doing is she like, oh,

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>she was fucking not happy. She was advocating for me

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. She was like, look, guys, she's in pain.

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>She will tell you when she's finished, like blah blah blah,

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Like she was really good and she actually, like afterwards,

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>went and spoke to some people and everyone's like, yeah,

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a dickhead, like literally walked in arms crossed like

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>such attitude, and it just changed the whole mood. Anyway,

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna forget about that part of it because we

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>ended up just roasting him for the whole rest of

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:25.919
<v Speaker 1>the labor, so it didn't even matter.

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>It was like, also, like, what's a birth story if

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't involve one sad little old man?

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? So true. So they ministered the epidural and they

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>both left and then kind Eyes, an ethetist, came back

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in and he was like, I'm so sorry about that,

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, I just want to thank you

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for oh crushing rushing your answers in order for us

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to get through that as quickly and painfree as possible.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:55.439
<v Speaker 1>And his epidural was fucking slay. He was sligh under

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>all that pressure. That fucking epy durol was slay. They

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>did do a top up, but my gosh, it felt good, honey.

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>My epi dural with route didn't work, so I was

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a bit like, oh, yeah, they're gonna give me an

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>EPI dural. Will it work, won't it work? Who knows? Anyway, spoilery,

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Well it's working.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 3>It's good.

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It's real good. It's real good. So then I was

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>just like cracking jokes. I was just like the life

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of the hospital room guys.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It was so cute.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And then everyone's like, you need to have a sleep,

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, so true. I've been up since

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>ten pm the previous day and it was like literally

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>mid day by that point, and so I ended up

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>having a week sleep. And then they came back and

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>did a vaginal exam I think maybe four hours later,

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, Okay, hasn't been any progress. We're

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>still sitting at seven centimeters, but let's give it another

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of hours and then let's have a chat then

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and see how you're feeling about everything. So two hours

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>or three hours later, two three hours later, they checked

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>again and nothing had happened. It was still the same,

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they kind of had a chat with me.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>They were like, you can continue to keep laboring like this,

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.800
<v Speaker 1>but like explaining, the epidural has slowed everything down, obviously

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we need that to control the pushing that you're having,

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so we would recommend getting a sea section, and I

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>just said, yeah, I'm super comfortable with getting the sea section,

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, that was kind of it. We went

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>through the kind of procedure. They talked me through the

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>risks of everything, which I feel like didn't happen the

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>first time around. I don't want to say that for sure,

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:30.479
<v Speaker 1>but they talked me through every single risk that could

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>possibly happen as a result of a sea section. And

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 1>another thing happened that they gave me the stuff to

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>stop the clotting and I had to take the injections

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>home with me and give myself an injection every day

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>for five days. That did not happen.

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Everyone has to do after a sea section.

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 1>I did not have that with RU. We never had

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to do that.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:54.240
<v Speaker 2>So that's literally just everyone has to do. Oh my god.

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>They were like really shocked when I said that, and

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I think it's because remember how I said.

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>When I went and got my hostpital records, they had

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 1>discharged me under a different name. I think that's what happened.

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I fucked up my discharge, so which is

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>lucky that nothing fucking happened. It's really bad anyway. Then

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, how long until this is happening? And

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like seven thirty and I'm like, oh my god,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it's seven pm right now and half an hour I'm

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>going to meet my baby. And they're like yeah. So

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we were just so excited, like it had been such

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful and long day and now we were going

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to meet our baby, and we were just fucking stoked.

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I had a new anethetist because the other one is

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>just on the ward, and this anetheist comes into the

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>C section. He explains all of the things about the

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>epidural just and also kind of the procedure that's going

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to happen, just so from start to finish, so I

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>understand what's going on. And he's like, we're going to

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>wheel you in to prep you, and then I'm going

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to take you in to get the drugs and everything right,

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and then Charlie can come in after Emma was allowed

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to scrub in with us, which was awesome because she

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>still work there. So we had two midwives present, which

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>was awesome, and then we did have to do a

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>spinal tap. It was awesome. He just gave me a

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>bit of time, and that's what happens.

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>The spinal tap on top of the ePIE is what

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:10.240
<v Speaker 2>makes you like, gives you the really bad shakes and stuff.

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, no, I get the shakes anyway from from it. Yeah,

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not good. I was like shaking it immediately as

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>we went in there, and they're like trying to talk

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>to me and I'm.

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, put a blanket on me, please. They're like,

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you're not cold.

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember, yes, from last time. But we said to them, hey, like,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously we'd really love skin to skin straight away. We

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>want to do delayed cord clamping. And also Charlie will

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>announce the gender because we didn't know the gender. Obviously

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>we thought it was going to be a boy and

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they're doing it and so obviously we didn't know this

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>at the time, but Emma, our midwife, told us this

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>after the fact. Was that the surgeon who did the

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>C section ended up being doctor Harry, my other doctor.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Because they were going to give me the spinal she

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>ran out because it was like an emergency on the ward,

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and then because the spinal didn't happen, epidurer worked, she

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>missed out on the berth and she was really devastated.

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>She came in the next end She's like, I cannot

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>believe that I missed the birth, and I was like,

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it's fine. Doctor Harry was amazing, lovely,

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>loveliest guy and really like OCD like it took him

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>an hour to sew me up, and I was like, well,

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.439
<v Speaker 1>list oh it was starkay. Anyway, he did this thing

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>called a gentle cesarean, which I had never heard of,

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and basically what happens is that rather than like pulling

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the baby kind of out of your stomach, they still

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>put pressure on you. So I felt still pressure on

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the top and the bottom of me, but it's almost

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>like a bit of a reflex that the baby ends

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>up pushing itself out, and it's it's something that they

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>do to kind of mimic the feeling of and it's

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously not the same, but to mimic the feeling of

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>them coming out of the birth canal, so it's like

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 1>they're actually birthing. And it was really cool because I

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>felt like our whole experience, even though we didn't get

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>our v back when we went to the hospital, I

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously had resis about how people would view our choices

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>for birthing, even though I feel confident in them, but

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you just never know we'll welcomed like so nicely, had

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>full female obstetrician team. Everyone was like, yeah, let's keep going.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>There could be you know, we could do a vaginal birth.

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say this before, but they actually did do

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>another vaginal examination on the table just to make sure

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that I hadn't like miraculously dilated to ten centimeters, to

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>be like really sure that we had exhausted all opportunities,

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and then for it to finish with this like gentle cesarean.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was so nice, such a beautiful

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>end to our birthing story. And I never had any

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>trauma from Ru's birth, so I wasn't like worried. I

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.959
<v Speaker 1>just was so emotional about everything, and I just felt

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like when I found that out, I was like, Okay,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this was meant to be the birth that we had

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>on the day. And so they lifted the baby up

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and doctor Harry was like okay, and the father's going

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to announce the gender. Everyone so no one say anything,

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and then Charlie goes.

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 7>It's a it's a girl, and then we both just

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 7>like pissed ourselves laughing because it was so funny, Like

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 7>we were one thousand percent convinced that this was a boy,

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 7>so for her to.

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Be a girl, it was just like the biggest and

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>best surprise, Like there is something in not finding out

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the gender because you always think it's going to be

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>one thing, and then for it to be the exact opposite.

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just so fucking funny. So anyway, it was beautiful,

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and she was.

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:33.760
<v Speaker 2>So chubby, like she was chubby but like the photo,

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>she's like, there's big chunky monkey. How much way when

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 2>she came out, so.

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Rue was like three kilos and this baby was three

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>point eight, so almost almost a kilo more, like not

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>far off from being a whole kilo more than Ru

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>was no wonder. I was like hobbling around like it's

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>biggest baby I've ever had. But yeah, she was just

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>so beautiful and has dark coloring, like I could tell instantly.

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, looks like you. She

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>looks like me, like jet black hair, so much hair,

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.399
<v Speaker 1>which I already knew from the scans. I had said,

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 1>like they've got a lot of hair, but jet black

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>hair and this like darker skin. So it's just so

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting the way that genetics all works. Like I was

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>just straight away, I was like, oh my god, she's

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>so different looking to rue definitely my coloring, and yeah,

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it was just really exciting. So they put her straight

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 1>on my chest and she was there the whole time.

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 1>They'd like, they're like, oh, we can do her way

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:31.720
<v Speaker 1>in now, or we can do it later and recovery,

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, let's do it in recovery.

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I just want to like spend that time with her.

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So we just like spent time as a family of

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just me and Charlie and the baby and just cuddling

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and just looking at.

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Hercuse she looked quite alert after a long labor and

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 2>also so cooked. She looks like quite an alert little baby.

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing was, her heart rate was fine the

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>whole time except for that deceleration. She was like so normal.

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why they were so happy for me to continue

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to try and die, because she was fine. Once they

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 1>got that involuntary pushing stopped every my heart rate, my

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 1>blood pressure was all good. So she was so calm,

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Like she let out a massive cry instantly, and that

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>would like flooded me with tears because they're like oh

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>my god.

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 2>And then she was just like when they come out,

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 2>and then the rest of the time that they're they're small,

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 2>you're like, please don't cry.

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's enough now. But then the most sort of

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>chillst thing, like she just wanted to kind of feed

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.879
<v Speaker 1>straight away because she's a chunky monkey. But yeah, she's

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.399
<v Speaker 1>really alert for sure because she cooked for two more

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>weeks than Ru. So it's just completely different. Rue was

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>like quite a sleepy baby. But I also think that's

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:45.439
<v Speaker 1>because I labored for so long with drugs like I

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:49.800
<v Speaker 1>did the potocin, I did morphine, potocin, had the epidural, Like,

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of drugs in my system with

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that birth, whereas with this birth, I think the total

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 1>amount of drugs I would have had would have been

0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>seven hours worth of drugs and the whole which started

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>at ten pm. So like it's just a different, yeah,

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>different scenario. But yeah, she has been awake, alert and

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>ready to fucking live life. So that's the story.

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:15.800
<v Speaker 2>You took her home the next day, right.

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:19.239
<v Speaker 1>We took her home. No, So technically the day they're

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 1>born is day zero, so day one and day two,

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>so we took her home on day two.

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of someone being able to leave that

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>soon after a sea. Well, I just like.

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 1>There was one actually one complication, Like it wasn't end

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>up being a complication, but when they were closing me up,

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they saw a little bit of blood in my bladder

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and they thought maybe they had nicked something. So they

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>had to like clear it out with this methylene blue

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>twice just to make sure that it wasn't actually blood.

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>In the end, they just think it was a bit

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>of blood from her. But because of that, they wanted

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 1>me to keep the catheter in, like they wanted me

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to stay. They wanted me to have the catheter and

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 1>basically the whole day. So typically they'd take it out

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the morning after the sea, but I had to leave

0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it to the following morning. And I just was so

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable with the catheterine. Like I was really bedbounds, you know,

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 1>like your bedbound until the epiduro and things were off.

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>But I just just doesn't feel good having that catheterine.

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>That made that first night really difficult. And then it

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>came really down our decision to leave early came really

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 1>down to how it was affecting Rue. Like Charlie went

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to go pick her up from daycare to bring her

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>because that's like Jem, friend of the Pods, sister in law.

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 1>She had been taking rid of daycare picking her up,

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but after we birthed, Charlie wanted to pick her up

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>just for a bit of normal scene that the educator

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 1>said to him, Oh, we're so glad that you picked

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>her up today. Apparently she had just been like she

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was fine when Jem dropped her off. She's so happy

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 1>with Jim, loves her, loves her cousins, but just was

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like sobbing in the educator's arms and she's just not

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know. So the educator yeah, oh my god.

0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And they were obviously fully aware of what was happening

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and everything like that, but me finding that out and

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 1>then having her come, so she came. Lucy was there.

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:07.240
<v Speaker 1>We had like a little birthday party for Suki. Lucy

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>baked a cake and brought it. We had some champagne,

0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and Rue got to meet her, and then we stayed

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like roue stayed till like eight o'clock, and then Charlie

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>took her back to our sister in laws. But we

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>were both kind of talking like we need to get

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 1>out of here. We just need to all be together

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>because the transition is really difficult, and she was already

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>showing signs of struggling like that early on the baby

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.359
<v Speaker 1>was had only just arrived or wasn't even there yet,

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, when she was really upset. So yeah, we

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just said, like, can we leave tomorrow? And they were

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like you can. I think they wanted us to stay

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>a bit longer, but they were like no, you know,

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.280
<v Speaker 1>if you want too, you can, but just like, obviously

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>call us if there's anything going on. It was fine. Look,

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't ideal.

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Could you not have stayed by yourself or you wanted

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you wanted all of you to be together.

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, we did talk about that. Charlie's like, I'll go home,

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 1>But the thing was, it was like it's a bit

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 1>useless meeting hospital by myself. Like what had happened actually

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.439
<v Speaker 1>when he was dropping her back at eight o'clock that night,

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>is that the baby started crying. I couldn't move because

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I still had the catheterin and the buzzer had dropped

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>on the ground and I was in a amount of pain.

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I needed pain relief. So it took me probably fifteen

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.760
<v Speaker 1>minutes to get the courage to push or pull myself

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>up to then get out of bed and get the buzzer,

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was in tears, and I just was like,

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why, like you need a support person

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>with you in hospital, because like if the fucking buzzer

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.120
<v Speaker 1>falls on the floor, you were fucked. Like I was

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>like trying to think, like what number would I call

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>right now to reach the midwif sit outside my door?

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Like it was, so do you not just be like

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.720
<v Speaker 2>help help?

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I did think about that, actually, I was that would

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 1>be my next thing, right, But anyway, I managed to

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>get the buzzer and they came in and I was

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 1>just like in tears. So when Charlie and I were

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about that, I was just like, but I kind

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of need you here, so I'd rather all be together

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:00.839
<v Speaker 1>so that you know you can be there for real,

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you can be there for me and I can be

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:04.799
<v Speaker 1>there for the baby kind of thing. The funniest thing

0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>happened though not funniest thing, but like the fire alarm

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>went off. It was like cold red, evacuate, evacuate, and

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, fuck, You're like I can't. I was

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>like I can't.

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Really do that.

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, should I be evacuating right now. And then

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 1>people pop the head and be like, hey, it's all good,

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing nothing to see here.

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Both um.

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 7>But then it was like evacuate now, evacuate now, and

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 7>I was like, evacuate now, yeah, and they're full on, like.

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 2>The yeah, and there was aggressive and.

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, there's just been a little fire on

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the floor and.

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, no, worries.

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:35.959
<v Speaker 5>All good.

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>But they had it all yeah, they had it all

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>on to control. But I was like, I think it's

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>time just to get home to creature comfort. So yeah,

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 1>we went home on day two. And I will say

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>something about leaving in the hospital early that because and

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Dona is a controlled substance, they only give you ten.

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So had I stayed in hospital for like the full

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 1>five or whatever days that you're meant to after a

0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>C section, they would have given me because they are

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>controlling the substance and how it is been dispersed. I

0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>would have been able to continue like the four a day,

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but the ten lasted me two days.

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Would they not have given you a script or something?

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 1>No, Like I would have had to go to the

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor and ask for a script. And even then it's like,

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>because it's a controlled substance. They like, I really want

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to make sure and I just didn't really want to

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor's surgery. I was like fine, So

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we just took major like my panadol and my I

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 1>took voltairein for inflammation was regular and there was a

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 1>bit a day where the pain was like not ideal,

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but I just had to really stay on top of

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the panadole and it was okay. I mean I liked

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the end.

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 2>It was a controlled substance. I've got so much here.

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, you could have told me that, I would

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>have realized.

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that it was because I don't like

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the way that it makes me feel. So whenever I've

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 2>been given it, I just s.

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>A take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's it's it's

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>an opiate.

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.080
<v Speaker 2>It just makes me sleep, which I don't like.

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So we all came home and that was at

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and now it's been crazy ever since.

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:10.160
<v Speaker 2>So talk to me about your feeding and latching, Like,

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 2>how's the feeding process going?

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this time around, I really wanted to like

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>nail breastfeeding the first time. It was also new to me.

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I also got different advice. Saw that Dodgy lactation consultant.

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I was fine with bottle feeding Rue, but I was like,

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if I can do it, yeah, So best feeding has

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 1>been going really well. We have Look, it's been really hard.

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I'm not gonna lie. Obviously, when

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a c section, your milk can take a

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 1>little longer to come in. I felt like my milk

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>did come in. But she has was cluster feeding for

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like a week straight and it was just insane.

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Are your nipples okay? Have you been using those little

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>silver things? Hello?

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 1>The silver eggs? Hello, Sheilby.

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to squeeze your cheeks. She was so cute.

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Look, it's been really challenging the feeding, just because of

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it's so different to Rue. She's just such a completely

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>different baby in every way, Like she's so hungry all

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the time, she's clinging, so she wants to sleep only

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.560
<v Speaker 1>on me. She doesn't like the snow, she doesn't like

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the snow as a busnet. So it's just been a

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 1>lot different. And the midwife. The thing about also having

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a private midwife is they come every second day in

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the first week, every four days, every five like, and

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it kind of peeters off after six weeks so you

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>see them quite regularly. So she was like, would check

1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 1>her latch and she'd be like, her latch is amazing,

1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>she's good, she's pink. We weighed her and she'd only

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>lost four percent of her body weight in the first

1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:49.440
<v Speaker 1>way in which is awesome. So she's like, everything is happening,

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like you're doing really well. It's just whether or not

1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:56.200
<v Speaker 1>mentally it's too much for you with you know, the

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 1>slipless nights and that you maybe want to introduce a

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 1>pump or you want to do a little top up,

1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:05.040
<v Speaker 1>like that's completely up to you. But she's like, you know,

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:10.560
<v Speaker 1>your milk's still establishing, so those things can also be

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>detrimental to that. And I was just like, look, we've

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 1>come this far, let's just like get there. And I

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:18.520
<v Speaker 1>think the two week mark is when I'll make the decision,

1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:23.360
<v Speaker 1>like if I start pumping then, because obviously like doing

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a fake pump, like your body doesn't know that that's

1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>milk for the pump versus milk for the baby, so

1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:33.919
<v Speaker 1>it can fuck up like your supply. So only because

1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I had issues with my supply last time, like other

1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:38.440
<v Speaker 1>people who don't have supply issues wouldn't have to think

1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>about this too much, but because my supply was so

1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:44.080
<v Speaker 1>bad last time, we're just trying to get it up

1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:46.680
<v Speaker 1>as good as it can be as a standalone and

1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>then introduce some of those things. So I'm seeing Emma

1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:51.480
<v Speaker 1>today and we're going to do a way in for

1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Suki then to see how much weight she's lost. Hopefully

1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I founder up a little bit, and then we'll make

1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a plan for how everything's.

1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Going to go.

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So how are you feeling mentally?

1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Look, it has been quite different this time around with Rue.

1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have baby blues. With Rue. I had a

1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 1>drop in my hormones after I stopped breastfeeding, which we've

1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:22.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about in our feeding episode or the mental health episode.

1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:24.600
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, I was pretty blissed out for

1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that whole pregnancy and newborn phase. Obviously, our life and

1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:30.480
<v Speaker 1>our family was a lot different back then.

1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:33.640
<v Speaker 2>You were really in the bubble, the baby bubble, really

1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:36.480
<v Speaker 2>in the baby bubble. You also were working for a company,

1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:40.040
<v Speaker 2>so maternity leave looked a lot different exactly.

1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And just like money stuff, even like you know, government

1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff is great, we've applied for that, we're getting that

1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:50.520
<v Speaker 1>money amazing, But you know, there are more significant stresses

1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:52.880
<v Speaker 1>this time around, and more things that are sad at

1:02:52.880 --> 1:02:56.800
<v Speaker 1>this time around. So the baby blues definitely kicked in,

1:02:56.520 --> 1:02:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and in the first few days it really kind of

1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:02.040
<v Speaker 1>grasped onto the that we didn't get our v back.

1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:05.800
<v Speaker 1>So even though like logically and rationally in my head,

1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I was saying I was so happy with the birth

1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and the labor and how everything went, and I was like,

1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>there literally was nothing else they could have done, my

1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>baby blues were like, you failed at that.

1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:21.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you messaged me and told me, you

1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:23.960
<v Speaker 2>were like, it's all fine, though you know I didn't,

1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:27.040
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, it's not no one. When

1:03:27.120 --> 1:03:29.000
<v Speaker 2>you have a plan and it doesn't go to plan,

1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:32.000
<v Speaker 2>or it doesn't matter how rational your brain can be,

1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:35.600
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't change the way that you feel. And of

1:03:35.760 --> 1:03:39.240
<v Speaker 2>course you would feel that way, like it's just normal

1:03:39.640 --> 1:03:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so that was pretty hard. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of they just shouldn't let your name

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<v Speaker 1>a human when you've just had a baby and you're

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<v Speaker 1>emotional and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if you've got no idea what to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it took us days and it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to call this because we thought

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to have a penis and we had

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<v Speaker 1>only penis names.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I loved the story about the white board that

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<v Speaker 2>you had, like all of the names and a white board,

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<v Speaker 2>like as if it was a like a spy show

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<v Speaker 2>or something. You're like, right, we have to name this kid.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just trying to have a name for like

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<v Speaker 2>what five days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, a week, almost a week, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what did you call her?

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<v Speaker 8>Baby?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we called her a lot of different names to

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<v Speaker 1>test them out. We were like, hey, but Susie, Susie,

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<v Speaker 1>rue Wren, but we yeah, ended up picking a name

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just we started telling people and it

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<v Speaker 1>was in my mind it felt like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>this runaway train because I don't know. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>with Rue, I knew her name was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>her name straight away, but Charlie had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like we because we talked about this, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>like having a full meltdown, and Charlie was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt exactly how you feel about Rue, Like, but you

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<v Speaker 1>you were so confident in the name at that I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, it's going to be like it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves the name of this.

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<v Speaker 2>You just mean that you feel like now that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>knows what her name is, but you're still like not

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent sure, and you are like, but what

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<v Speaker 2>if I wanted to change it?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>What mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I said. And then Charlie was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to change it, we can who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, so true, a famie, Shuma can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. When the kid's a year old, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember she named her kid like Gene, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>Janital or something without realizing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a bit silly. Someone should have told

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<v Speaker 1>her it was a tribute to her bestie the middle name.

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<v Speaker 2>Not one person was like doll, no, no, So that

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<v Speaker 2>was just Trumas people don't have good friends clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>No they don't. They need us in their lives to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them. But yeah, it would just attach itself to

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. And so it's just been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>different that there's time around, like you know, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>been struggling a lot with Ruth, and Rue has been

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest challenge of it all, Like having a new

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<v Speaker 1>baby is hard and normal like way like lack of sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really difficult with Rue. She's just not handling

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<v Speaker 1>it well. She loves her sister. She comes and she's

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<v Speaker 1>so gentle with her, and she cuddles and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do this, and like holds her hands

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<v Speaker 1>like she wants to hold the baby, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hold the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So she obviously loves her, but I don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>fully understood how that would impact our dynamic as a family.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she didn't understand her getting a sibling meant. She

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh, I get a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my dolls they're pretty cool, but this baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she see other people with siblings, like her

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<v Speaker 2>cousins or whatnot, and think that that's what it meant.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the first while, it doesn't mean that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It means Mom and Dad in particular, Mom, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that your energy is just on the baby and

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<v Speaker 2>forever more the energy is.

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<v Speaker 1>Split, exactly. And so she's just having a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>meltdowns about different things. And you know she wants something

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want her to do it or have it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're kind of putting a boundary in place. She'll

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<v Speaker 1>just scream and cry and be upset and it's really difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we're finding at the moment is she'll scream

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose to wake the baby up because she knows

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<v Speaker 1>that that gets me upset. And I'm just like, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you not understand that the baby being asleep means

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<v Speaker 1>that I can give you attention, Like, babe, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do this for us, And so I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've been really grumpy with her, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie's like your sleep deprived babe, like you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>so basically at the moment, we're having to all go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed in our bed together because she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep in her bed. She doesn't want to miss out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she wants to be with the baby. Is

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<v Speaker 1>So once she's asleep, we're just transfer her and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to bed early, just to get a

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<v Speaker 1>little head start on the bloody cluster feeding monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Suki is feeding every twenty to thirty minutes. You

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<v Speaker 2>said during the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's kind of eats a little bit more, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the last two days eased up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But even though last night's tenth card again, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first you know, ten days and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in the last two days, it's gotten a bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>She's starting to do long distance of sleep during the day,

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<v Speaker 1>so the day is better dependently independently. Yeah, I put

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<v Speaker 1>her in the pram. She seems to like the pram bassinette.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, whatever works, whatever works. She hates the bloody

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<v Speaker 1>cocuona babay.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a whole new cover. I'm just like, well, fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell, apparently a lot of babies don't like this new

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<v Speaker 2>till they're like a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we put it on really gently and she lost

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<v Speaker 1>her shit. So I'm actually getting a side sleeper because she,

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<v Speaker 1>like Emma said to me, the midwife was like, and

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<v Speaker 1>she actually asked her other midwife that she works with,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, one of them said, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby exactly like this. They just want to be

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<v Speaker 1>on you, and often second babies want to co sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm getting like a side bed coat. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea, yeah, And iltatoan to test that out

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<v Speaker 1>and see if that works, because I'm just also a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit anxious about not having my eyes on her.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the other thing that's happened. Like I've got

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<v Speaker 1>like weird things I'm anxious about, Like people were looking

1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:17.040
<v Speaker 1>after Rue, but yeah, she was going to like a

1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:19.000
<v Speaker 1>pool party, and then our other friends were looking after her,

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<v Speaker 1>going to their like Nana's house with the pool, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just had this like crazy anxiety about like not

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<v Speaker 1>being there to supervise her. And it wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't trust them to look after Rue. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ru is just so different to her normal self at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, like worrying that she gonna just like run

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<v Speaker 1>off because she wants to find me, and then like so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just been a few I get it around. My anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be so hard, Yeah, just hard because.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not there, and I don't want her to like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want want her to send her away, but

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<v Speaker 1>also I want her to have fun, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>have these outings, and it's good for us to have

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<v Speaker 1>like a little rest as well. But it is very hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought I had prepared myself for that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you really can because you just don't

1:10:05.400 --> 1:10:08.040
<v Speaker 1>know how your child's going to react. So that's the

1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:10.760
<v Speaker 1>hardest thing at the moment, and that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I is really weighing quite heavily on me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to keep remembering it's a sibling for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that hopefully one day they'll get along and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, they will look at me and my

1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:27.080
<v Speaker 2>sister like and my brother like they will. I was thinking,

1:10:27.120 --> 1:10:30.759
<v Speaker 2>next week, once Charlie's back at work and you could

1:10:30.840 --> 1:10:33.920
<v Speaker 2>use the extra hands, I'll come over and just even

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<v Speaker 2>play in the backyard so you can still see us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, nice, love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Lenny and Ruke can just like play in

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<v Speaker 2>the backyard. Yes, supercure arrest upstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say is the best thing? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've spoken a little bit about that, you feel a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more confident, Like, what's the best thing about the

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<v Speaker 2>second time around?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think this time around just like knowing how hard

1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:06.080
<v Speaker 1>our like family life has been and everything, just seeing

1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the joy that it's brought Charlie, Like, because I've been

1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:12.200
<v Speaker 1>pregnant for nine months, you know, so I'm having this

1:11:12.240 --> 1:11:14.680
<v Speaker 1>connection with the thing that I'm growing. But they've been

1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:17.680
<v Speaker 1>for ten months actually ten months, thank you. But the

1:11:17.720 --> 1:11:20.719
<v Speaker 1>guys kind of sit on the sideline. So I think

1:11:20.760 --> 1:11:23.679
<v Speaker 1>for me, the best thing has been seeing him become

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<v Speaker 1>a dad. Again and just like how stoked he is

1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and how happy he is, and it's been like a

1:11:30.040 --> 1:11:32.559
<v Speaker 1>very long time since I've probably seen him that happy.

1:11:32.640 --> 1:11:36.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's probably my favorite thing about it so.

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<v Speaker 2>Far, Like watching him in the birth video that you

1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:43.360
<v Speaker 2>put up will link it. He was just the pillar

1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:48.160
<v Speaker 2>of strength that men should all like look to.

1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did a really a good job he did.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't wait to hear his little thoughts about everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, hopefully that don't make me cry.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably will, that's okay. Now we're lucky enough to

1:12:08.280 --> 1:12:10.760
<v Speaker 2>have insights from a few other people who were at

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<v Speaker 2>Sukie's birth.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, shit is longtime listener, first time caller. This is Lucy.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to give you my perspective on Key's birth. Spoiler,

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<v Speaker 5>she was amazing. I got a call from Key at

1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:26.960
<v Speaker 5>about three point thirty in the morning, and for a

1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:28.840
<v Speaker 5>good four weeks, I was so scared that I was

1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:30.640
<v Speaker 5>going to sleep through this call that I had my

1:12:30.760 --> 1:12:33.919
<v Speaker 5>phone like not on, do not disturb on four volume,

1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:37.840
<v Speaker 5>but one ring and I answered and Kay just said

1:12:38.760 --> 1:12:42.559
<v Speaker 5>it's happening, come over here, quick, quick, and then hung

1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:45.559
<v Speaker 5>up the phone. So when I got there, Key was

1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:48.679
<v Speaker 5>in her bedroom on the floor with Nikki, her Dula

1:12:48.840 --> 1:12:53.320
<v Speaker 5>and Emma, Andrew and Alan and Charlie, and it really

1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:56.880
<v Speaker 5>was a really beautiful experience from the get go, like

1:12:56.960 --> 1:12:59.479
<v Speaker 5>it just felt very peaceful, very calm. There were many

1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:05.120
<v Speaker 5>comments throughout the whole labor from the midwife, Emma and Nikki,

1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:10.400
<v Speaker 5>the idola just saying how calm and controlled and kind

1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:15.240
<v Speaker 5>of like introspective Key was. She was really really looking

1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:18.880
<v Speaker 5>inward for that strength. And Charlie was setting up the

1:13:18.920 --> 1:13:22.120
<v Speaker 5>bath and I decided that it would be a good

1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:25.200
<v Speaker 5>time to play Key the first video message that I

1:13:25.240 --> 1:13:27.040
<v Speaker 5>had gathered from people in her life, and this one

1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:30.519
<v Speaker 5>was from George, her sister in law, Charlie's sister. And

1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:34.599
<v Speaker 5>my intention with it with these messages, I gathered about

1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:37.920
<v Speaker 5>ten from her nearest and dearest, and I just wanted

1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:39.920
<v Speaker 5>them to be little moments of kind of community and

1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:43.519
<v Speaker 5>support throughout Key's labor in those tough moments, just hearing

1:13:43.520 --> 1:13:45.880
<v Speaker 5>from the people that back you the most. Even I

1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:48.000
<v Speaker 5>can imagine, like I haven't had a baby, I haven't

1:13:48.000 --> 1:13:50.720
<v Speaker 5>been through labor, but I can imagine that it gets

1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:51.960
<v Speaker 5>to a point where like I don't know if I

1:13:51.960 --> 1:13:55.200
<v Speaker 5>can do this, and I obviously knew he could do it,

1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:57.360
<v Speaker 5>and so did everyone else, but I wanted her to

1:13:57.400 --> 1:14:00.880
<v Speaker 5>hear that from them, so I played that, and then

1:14:00.960 --> 1:14:04.479
<v Speaker 5>from her godmother Sue, I played a voice note. Of course,

1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Kelly got a voice note in there, and there was

1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:09.320
<v Speaker 5>lots of other videos throughout, but they were just moments

1:14:09.320 --> 1:14:13.400
<v Speaker 5>of kind of lifting spirits, I think. And then Kee

1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:17.400
<v Speaker 5>was like, something's coming out. I think I'm giving birth

1:14:18.040 --> 1:14:21.439
<v Speaker 5>and it was her. I'm sure she's talked about this

1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:26.240
<v Speaker 5>her like the sack, like the amniotic sack. But I

1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:28.120
<v Speaker 5>was like, holy shit, I think she's having a baby.

1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:30.400
<v Speaker 5>And I've run out to the midwife being like I

1:14:30.400 --> 1:14:32.280
<v Speaker 5>think she's having a baby, like something is coming out.

1:14:33.000 --> 1:14:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Obviously I was wrong, And then Rue was amazing. I

1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:41.439
<v Speaker 5>just kept being like, gosh, she is so calm and

1:14:41.479 --> 1:14:45.800
<v Speaker 5>collected and wasn't like wigged out by the experience at all.

1:14:45.840 --> 1:14:47.320
<v Speaker 5>Every now and then she'd look over to me and

1:14:47.360 --> 1:14:49.640
<v Speaker 5>be like, is mummy okay? Just like a look like that,

1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.479
<v Speaker 5>and I'd just be like, mummy's okay, Mummy's good. And

1:14:53.520 --> 1:14:55.960
<v Speaker 5>there was like a couple of really cute moments. So

1:14:56.040 --> 1:14:58.960
<v Speaker 5>obviously prior to the birth, Key was like, look, you

1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:00.800
<v Speaker 5>might see me pooh, like I just need to get

1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:03.280
<v Speaker 5>that out there. That happened sometimes in birth, and I

1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:05.559
<v Speaker 5>was like, truly the least of my worries, but glad

1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:08.880
<v Speaker 5>it's out there now. And Key was in the bath

1:15:09.240 --> 1:15:11.400
<v Speaker 5>and Rue was at the business end and she looks

1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:14.719
<v Speaker 5>at me and goes mummy, poo pool and Key's face.

1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:16.639
<v Speaker 5>She turns to me and just gives me this look

1:15:16.720 --> 1:15:19.519
<v Speaker 5>like did I just shit? And I was like, you

1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:23.960
<v Speaker 5>actually didn't. Like I was like, no, you did not, pooh.

1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:26.839
<v Speaker 5>So there were lots of like really funny little moments

1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:30.400
<v Speaker 5>throughout it. Rue like pulled up her favorite Elsa chair

1:15:30.479 --> 1:15:33.439
<v Speaker 5>and literally sat right in front of Key in the water,

1:15:33.560 --> 1:15:37.760
<v Speaker 5>like she was just divine throughout it all. And Key,

1:15:37.920 --> 1:15:41.439
<v Speaker 5>I was obviously Key and I've been friends for you know,

1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:45.439
<v Speaker 5>a good time now. But seeing her in labor and

1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:47.920
<v Speaker 5>delivers Suki, like seeing her bring Souki into the world,

1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:54.240
<v Speaker 5>I can't quite even express how incredible it was to witness.

1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:58.080
<v Speaker 5>I was in awe of her and her strength and

1:15:58.080 --> 1:16:01.000
<v Speaker 5>her courage and her determination to meet her baby, and

1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:03.519
<v Speaker 5>oh gosh, I had just so many moments where I

1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:06.160
<v Speaker 5>was like, this is incredible. Like people who give birth

1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:10.600
<v Speaker 5>are unbelievable, and this person that I love is so unbelievable.

1:16:11.160 --> 1:16:13.840
<v Speaker 5>I did have a few teary moments. I cried when

1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:15.680
<v Speaker 5>we got to the hospital and it was time to

1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:18.000
<v Speaker 5>go to the hospital, and that decision was made just

1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:21.320
<v Speaker 5>because she was in pain. And I went.

1:16:21.160 --> 1:16:21.800
<v Speaker 1>To give her a hug.

1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:23.920
<v Speaker 5>She looked at me, she started tearing up. I was

1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:25.960
<v Speaker 5>tearing up, and it was just kind of a moment

1:16:26.040 --> 1:16:28.439
<v Speaker 5>of like not necessarily a sad cry, but like you

1:16:28.560 --> 1:16:30.439
<v Speaker 5>got this, like I'm just trying to transfer all of

1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:33.120
<v Speaker 5>my strength to you. When we went up to the

1:16:33.120 --> 1:16:37.519
<v Speaker 5>hospital room, I just felt that Key had a real

1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:40.040
<v Speaker 5>sense of calm and control around the berth, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course she was going for a vback and the

1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:46.200
<v Speaker 5>team was so amazing, Like once she had the epidural,

1:16:46.240 --> 1:16:49.160
<v Speaker 5>they really gave her her body that chance, do you know,

1:16:49.240 --> 1:16:51.519
<v Speaker 5>to keep trying. They didn't rush her into surgery, they

1:16:51.520 --> 1:16:54.519
<v Speaker 5>didn't try and speed it along. She really was given

1:16:55.320 --> 1:16:58.160
<v Speaker 5>a lot of choice, as she should be. But I

1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:00.840
<v Speaker 5>just felt like Key was in control of a pretty

1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:04.080
<v Speaker 5>like out of control situation, you know. And of course

1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:07.840
<v Speaker 5>then I was sitting in the waiting room while she

1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:10.400
<v Speaker 5>was in theater, and then we went up to the

1:17:10.479 --> 1:17:14.599
<v Speaker 5>room where she would be recovering and Charlie walked in.

1:17:14.640 --> 1:17:16.920
<v Speaker 5>A couple of nurses and doctors walked past me going

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<v Speaker 5>do you know? Do you know about the gender? And

1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:21.920
<v Speaker 5>I was like no, no, I don't know. And then

1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:25.240
<v Speaker 5>Charlie walked in with Key following behind him in the

1:17:25.240 --> 1:17:27.960
<v Speaker 5>bed and he just said, has anyone told you? I said,

1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:30.719
<v Speaker 5>no one's told me anything, and he had this look

1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:34.080
<v Speaker 5>of pure joy and delight on his face and he

1:17:34.120 --> 1:17:37.000
<v Speaker 5>just said, it's a girl. And I was convinced it

1:17:37.080 --> 1:17:40.040
<v Speaker 5>was a girl. So it feels good to be right again. Crying,

1:17:40.680 --> 1:17:43.479
<v Speaker 5>just so proud of Key and of Charlie. He was

1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:48.240
<v Speaker 5>an incredible support. And also just witnessing Emma and Nikki.

1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:53.439
<v Speaker 5>It really as someone who hasn't experienced this before, it

1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:55.720
<v Speaker 5>made me think, I think this is the kind of

1:17:55.720 --> 1:17:58.040
<v Speaker 5>experience that I would want to have. These people who are,

1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, advocating for you, you and by your side

1:18:01.200 --> 1:18:04.720
<v Speaker 5>and seeing you through this transformative experience. I was just

1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:08.639
<v Speaker 5>in awe of everyone, and it's an experience that's changed

1:18:08.640 --> 1:18:11.880
<v Speaker 5>my life, There's no doubt about that. And I feel

1:18:12.280 --> 1:18:16.280
<v Speaker 5>more connected to Kay than ever and Key and Charlie

1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:18.759
<v Speaker 5>and Souk and Ruit and Alan of course and Allen

1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:22.840
<v Speaker 5>are my chosen family. Like I really believe that we

1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:27.200
<v Speaker 5>have a bond that is very special and being there

1:18:27.240 --> 1:18:29.240
<v Speaker 5>in that moment was the greatest honor of my life.

1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:31.920
<v Speaker 5>And even I feel like saying that is an understatement,

1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:34.599
<v Speaker 5>Like I just can't express enough how much it meant

1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.160
<v Speaker 5>to me to be there with them in that moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Just congratulations, Kay, you are a rock star like anyone

1:18:41.760 --> 1:18:44.840
<v Speaker 5>who gives birth. I'm like, you really fucking did that?

1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:49.320
<v Speaker 5>Like that is wild and I'm just I'm just in awe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Very good? And did you just become a big sister?

1:18:56.240 --> 1:18:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:18:56.920 --> 1:18:58.040
<v Speaker 3>What's your sister's name?

1:18:58.560 --> 1:18:59.280
<v Speaker 4>So cute?

1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:05.760
<v Speaker 3>What's your favorite thing about being a big sister? Mid baby?

1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you like holding your sister? Yeah?

1:19:09.280 --> 1:19:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Do you like giving her big cuddles, hair and kisses?

1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Nice work.

1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:16.000
<v Speaker 3>You're such a good big cissy.

1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:21.280
<v Speaker 6>Hi. I'm emma. I'm Key and Charlie's midwife. My experience

1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:26.080
<v Speaker 6>of Key and Charlie's labor is just awe and I'm

1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:31.080
<v Speaker 6>just so impressed with how they both coped, and especially Key.

1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:33.360
<v Speaker 3>It's been such a difficult.

1:19:33.080 --> 1:19:37.880
<v Speaker 6>Year and throughout the pregnancy she just fought for what

1:19:37.960 --> 1:19:41.519
<v Speaker 6>she wanted and for what she wanted to achieve, and

1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:44.559
<v Speaker 6>that's very much how she was in the labor and birth.

1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:48.360
<v Speaker 6>She overcame so much. It was really amazing to watch

1:19:48.439 --> 1:19:52.040
<v Speaker 6>him and be a part of you know, she genuinely

1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:54.680
<v Speaker 6>had the full home birth experience, and you know, I

1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:57.280
<v Speaker 6>know that baby Soukei wasn't born to her vagina, but

1:19:57.920 --> 1:20:02.080
<v Speaker 6>she did absolutely everything she could her power to try

1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:05.120
<v Speaker 6>and that wasn't what was meant to be on the day.

1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:09.960
<v Speaker 6>But Key and Charlie should be so immensely proud of themselves.

1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:13.400
<v Speaker 1>So what they achieved. I haven't seen so.

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<v Speaker 6>Much love in a room before, with Rue running around,

1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:21.880
<v Speaker 6>our running round, My mum was there as Adula, Lucy,

1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:28.320
<v Speaker 6>so much support, and I know that he will look

1:20:28.360 --> 1:20:31.320
<v Speaker 6>back at this as a positive experience. I know I

1:20:31.439 --> 1:20:36.040
<v Speaker 6>left that long labor and birth feeling really positive, and

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:38.880
<v Speaker 6>that's not always the case when somebody has necessarian but

1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:43.240
<v Speaker 6>I remember leaving feeling like we have done absolutely everything

1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:45.960
<v Speaker 6>in our power to try and achieve this, and it

1:20:46.000 --> 1:20:49.200
<v Speaker 6>hasn't gone that way today, but I know that, you know,

1:20:49.360 --> 1:20:52.240
<v Speaker 6>Key will look back at this and use it to

1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:55.960
<v Speaker 6>do something positive, because that's just what she does. And

1:20:56.040 --> 1:20:58.760
<v Speaker 6>I know that her sharing her story and her experiences

1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:00.600
<v Speaker 6>is going to be huge, and that's It's been the

1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:04.400
<v Speaker 6>absolute pleasure. And I'm just in awe of that beautiful family.

1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:09.320
<v Speaker 8>Hi, I'm Nikki, I'm Key and Charlie's doula. But the

1:21:09.400 --> 1:21:11.559
<v Speaker 8>thing that I was really struck with straight away was

1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:15.840
<v Speaker 8>their openness to not to be stuck just to the

1:21:15.880 --> 1:21:20.360
<v Speaker 8>idea of having a vaginal birth after cesarean, but to

1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:23.240
<v Speaker 8>go with whatever was right on the day, So the

1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:26.920
<v Speaker 8>right birth on the day for everybody, and that's exactly

1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:29.599
<v Speaker 8>what happens. And you know, the labor and birth itself

1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:32.680
<v Speaker 8>was absolutely lovely. It was a joy to be part of,

1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:35.760
<v Speaker 8>you know. For me, I see the whole experience in

1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:39.599
<v Speaker 8>two parts, really, the part at home where I went

1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:43.559
<v Speaker 8>and spent the earlier part of labor with King Charny.

1:21:43.640 --> 1:21:48.040
<v Speaker 8>And at home it was just beautiful, really relaxed and

1:21:48.560 --> 1:21:53.479
<v Speaker 8>happy and lots of laughing dogs running around, really bringing

1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:58.240
<v Speaker 8>her elsa chair to sit and watch mum laboring, something

1:21:58.240 --> 1:22:00.880
<v Speaker 8>I shall never forget. It was just beautiful and to

1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:06.360
<v Speaker 8>watch the obvious adoration that Charlie has for Key and

1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:09.680
<v Speaker 8>the support he gave which was really lovely. So we

1:22:09.760 --> 1:22:13.080
<v Speaker 8>had that part and Key labored beautifully and was very

1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:17.280
<v Speaker 8>determined and strong and just kept on going. And then

1:22:18.320 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 8>when Emma and Kate arrived and we tried all manner

1:22:22.320 --> 1:22:27.599
<v Speaker 8>of things and to keep Key comfortable and in charge

1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:31.040
<v Speaker 8>of everything, and then the decision was made obviously to

1:22:31.040 --> 1:22:34.120
<v Speaker 8>get to hospital at that point, which was the decision

1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:36.960
<v Speaker 8>that everybody agreed was the right thing, and it was

1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:41.000
<v Speaker 8>a decision that Key helped make, and the fact that

1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:44.960
<v Speaker 8>she felt empowered and had the information, she knew what,

1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:49.479
<v Speaker 8>you know, what she wanted and was happy and you know,

1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:52.320
<v Speaker 8>at the end of the day we had a lovely

1:22:52.439 --> 1:22:54.360
<v Speaker 8>happy experience. And then when we went to hospital, we

1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:57.360
<v Speaker 8>had a lovely happy experience as well. Key was relaxed

1:22:57.479 --> 1:23:01.439
<v Speaker 8>the situation, It was handled really really well staff around us,

1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:04.919
<v Speaker 8>and you know, for me, it was just an incredible

1:23:04.960 --> 1:23:09.680
<v Speaker 8>experience really seeing Key and Charlie become parents again, so

1:23:10.760 --> 1:23:15.160
<v Speaker 8>the gorgeous little girl, and you know, watching their family grow,

1:23:15.800 --> 1:23:18.439
<v Speaker 8>but most importantly seeing them have a birth that they

1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:22.679
<v Speaker 8>felt was right for them. So I feel incredibly lucky

1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:24.479
<v Speaker 8>and happy to have been part of it and to

1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:28.000
<v Speaker 8>have been there doers. I thank you, Key and Charlie, Henry.

1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:34.360
<v Speaker 4>I now, hey, I'm Charlie and baby Dunny. Like Monday night,

1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:36.920
<v Speaker 4>we'd just put my head, I'd feel head to go

1:23:36.960 --> 1:23:42.400
<v Speaker 4>to bed. Key, that's something change, you know. I'm probably

1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:45.080
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be like contraction to the first few hours,

1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:47.519
<v Speaker 4>so let's just trying to get to sleep and you

1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:50.639
<v Speaker 4>pick things up in the morning. But they escalated quite quickly.

1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I think the midwife said that by the time she

1:23:53.600 --> 1:23:57.640
<v Speaker 4>came over at two am, he was already around beautiful centimated,

1:23:57.840 --> 1:24:02.400
<v Speaker 4>so the contractions were already pretty intense after about an hour.

1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:05.439
<v Speaker 4>There's all a bit of a shit show on my end.

1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:08.120
<v Speaker 4>The first couple of hours. I hadn't set the pool up.

1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.280
<v Speaker 4>I hadn't cooked any food or you know, packed a

1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:13.360
<v Speaker 4>hospital bag because I thought i'd have a bit of

1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:15.479
<v Speaker 4>time in the early stages. I was able to do that,

1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:17.479
<v Speaker 4>but it was a bit of a scramble at first,

1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:19.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, I get any electric pump out to pump

1:24:20.000 --> 1:24:22.639
<v Speaker 4>up the inflatable pool, and when I am I'm sure

1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.479
<v Speaker 4>the neighbors went too keen on that, but didn't get

1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:29.800
<v Speaker 4>any complaints by then. The dueler and a lovely midwife

1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:33.120
<v Speaker 4>thinking and Emma over and helping out quite a bit.

1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know what I would have done

1:24:35.240 --> 1:24:38.720
<v Speaker 4>about them, to be honest, Row work up and was

1:24:38.720 --> 1:24:41.960
<v Speaker 4>with us for the entire time. Between trying to set

1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:44.320
<v Speaker 4>things up and controlling Brew, I didn't really have much

1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.960
<v Speaker 4>capacity to help. Can you get through the contractions in

1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:50.320
<v Speaker 4>the early stages there, but things kind of normalized after

1:24:50.560 --> 1:24:53.160
<v Speaker 4>a few hours. We're all set up and he was

1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:57.280
<v Speaker 4>just got throwing through the motions pretty intense pain. To

1:24:57.400 --> 1:25:00.559
<v Speaker 4>think that she went twelve hours in total adding pain

1:25:00.560 --> 1:25:04.880
<v Speaker 4>really his bloody impressive And you know, I don't have

1:25:04.960 --> 1:25:07.560
<v Speaker 4>any any profanities or anything, which I was sort of

1:25:07.640 --> 1:25:10.720
<v Speaker 4>expecting she changed it to custing out people around her

1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:14.360
<v Speaker 4>when she's under duress, But no, she did. She did

1:25:14.400 --> 1:25:15.920
<v Speaker 4>it all with a lot of a lot of grace,

1:25:16.240 --> 1:25:19.080
<v Speaker 4>and unfortunately we didn't get to finish it at home.

1:25:19.200 --> 1:25:22.720
<v Speaker 4>But I was very confident that that key had one

1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:27.599
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent put everything she could into doing things naturally,

1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:31.320
<v Speaker 4>And the great thing about having the private midwife with

1:25:31.560 --> 1:25:36.200
<v Speaker 4>us is that we felt safe to continue to over

1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:38.679
<v Speaker 4>at home even though things have kind of slowed down

1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:41.640
<v Speaker 4>a bit, and they really did everything they could to

1:25:41.760 --> 1:25:44.920
<v Speaker 4>make sure that Key was comfortable where she was at

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:47.320
<v Speaker 4>and that she was comfortable she had done everything she

1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:49.880
<v Speaker 4>could before we finally made that call to go to hospital.

1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:53.600
<v Speaker 4>From there was it was quite a seamless experience. We

1:25:53.680 --> 1:25:55.880
<v Speaker 4>had a great, great team around at the hospital who

1:25:55.960 --> 1:25:58.519
<v Speaker 4>were really supportive of Key, you know, even tried to

1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:02.200
<v Speaker 4>encourage it to continue for a feedback, but made the

1:26:02.280 --> 1:26:04.479
<v Speaker 4>call to do the see that but didn't ever put

1:26:04.520 --> 1:26:07.560
<v Speaker 4>any pressure on us to jump straight into surgery or

1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:10.479
<v Speaker 4>anything like that. And we're very accommodating to me. And

1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:13.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, let's let me play my mum's playlist, which

1:26:13.400 --> 1:26:17.000
<v Speaker 4>was really special and important to me speaking ended up

1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:20.759
<v Speaker 4>coming out one of her favorite songs, which is really

1:26:21.479 --> 1:26:24.479
<v Speaker 4>really nice. Much let's I'm plaud mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you so much for joining me, Key reseals

1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you can you can go back to your cozy chair

1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>on Matt leave. And we've really loved hearing the tale

1:26:36.280 --> 1:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of how sweet Little Silky came earthside.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, and thank you the shit is

1:26:42.200 --> 1:26:45.719
<v Speaker 1>for all the lovely messages. It's meant so much getting

1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>them all, and I can't wait to well, I can't

1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:51.479
<v Speaker 1>wait to get back, but I'll be back soon.

1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that. You were like originally I said

1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>to you, didn't I. I was like, don't you promise anything,

1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:58.559
<v Speaker 2>because you're not going to want to come back as

1:26:58.640 --> 1:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>soon as you think you do. But you know, don't

1:27:00.920 --> 1:27:03.559
<v Speaker 2>mind me. I'll mind the fort. I'll go find more

1:27:03.600 --> 1:27:05.759
<v Speaker 2>people to farm for content from my pumpkin.

1:27:06.080 --> 1:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>But what do we agree on?

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<v Speaker 2>No ghosts, I'm not promising anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge thanks to our audio producer Maddie Joanna and if

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<v Speaker 1>you like the pod, please rate and review us. It

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<v Speaker 1>means a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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<v Speaker 6>Shit is ye