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Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia, welcome to The Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Em. Burnham, and

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Speaker 1: today is a long-awaited episode that we know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have just been dying for over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. It is our brutally honest review of

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Speaker 1: the show that has taken over the world, heated rivalry. Oh.

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Speaker 1: And because this is such an important show with such

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Speaker 1: a huge fandom, we have invited, I'm gonna say the

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Speaker 1: leader of the fandom, definitely the person who's been sharing

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Speaker 1: the most content, talking at the most, harassing people to

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Speaker 1: watch it that I've seen out in the world. Straight

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Speaker 1: up bullying straight up bullying people to watch it. We've

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Speaker 1: invited Tina Burke on the show, heated rivalry fandom representative. Hi,

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Speaker 2: I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited.

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Speaker 1: This show has been your life the last few weeks, right? Yes,

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Speaker 2: it has consumed me. I'm like Mr. Darcy when he's like,

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Speaker 2: you bewitched me body and soul, like that's me to

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Speaker 2: this show. I love it so much, it's crazy. Like

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Speaker 2: I was at Christmas and everyone's like, how are you?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, great, have you seen the Gay Hockey show?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be honest, I would roast you over that,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like for a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: was their summer holidays. This

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Speaker 2: show had me texting my friends things like, love could

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Speaker 2: be real, like, maybe men can be beautiful, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Only

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Speaker 1: when they're with each other,

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Speaker 2: not when they're with each other. But yeah, loved it

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Speaker 2: so much. I still love it. I'll rewatch it till

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Speaker 2: the day I die.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. Well, we are getting a season two,

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Speaker 1: which is very exciting.

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Speaker 1: This is a show we talked about across two weekend watches.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, yes, unheard of. Unheard of for us.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's like weekend watches one and done, but I

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Speaker 2: your recommendation to heart, so I watched it after that.

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Speaker 2: And I immediately became obsessed and I had to mention

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Speaker 2: it again.

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Speaker 1: we're going again on We can Watch, we're going again

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Speaker 1: with a recommendation.

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Speaker 2: But it had that effect,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I'm assuming everyone's watched it since we

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Speaker 1: did recommend it twice, but obviously with a brutally honest review,

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Speaker 1: it is our episode, this is our first one of

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Speaker 1: the year, very excited. We did bump Emily in Paris,

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Speaker 1: Moment in time that we had to talk about. So

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Speaker 1: with our brutally honest reviews, we do talk about every

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Speaker 1: inch of every episode, including the finale, so there will

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Speaker 1: be spoilers, so just everyone be aware of that. But

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Speaker 1: of course, Heated Rivalry, I'm assuming everyone here has watched

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Speaker 1: it otherwise. What the hell are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Get on it, pause the episode, get 6 hours of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a very enjoyable 6 hours. It is, I

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Speaker 1: love how its proper title is a Canadian sports romance.

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Speaker 1: They're calling and I'm like more of those please.

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Speaker 1: just the way we like all of our TV shows.

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Speaker 1: written and directed by Jacob Tierney, which I think is

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Speaker 1: Anyone else, I know because I'm sure if I asked you,

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Speaker 2: Would you like me to? Yes, I'm still reeling from

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Speaker 2: me talk about dystopia too. That was the best day

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Speaker 2: Burke. OK, so it is a gay hockey romance and

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Speaker 2: Those two central characters, the first being Ilya Rozanov, who

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Speaker 2: He's hot. Everyone's talking about him and angry. Yeah, love that.

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Speaker 2: Exactly true. And then we've got Shane Hollander, who is

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Speaker 1: So what did we think of the first time that

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Speaker 2: I think because the show obviously charts like almost like

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Speaker 2: They don't have that they took inspiration from Mindy Kaling

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and also you have in that moment, like it

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Speaker 1: Closed and everyone, especially because like this has taken over

442
00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,280
Speaker 1: the world in such a huge way. Everyone's talking about it,

443
00:16:46,359 --> 00:16:48,929
Speaker 1: the ratings are huge, the critical acclaim, it's coming back

444
00:16:48,929 --> 00:16:51,799
Speaker 1: for season two. They're presenting at the Globes, they're gonna

445
00:16:51,799 --> 00:16:53,830
Speaker 1: be presenting at more things like they are the boys

446
00:16:53,830 --> 00:16:56,270
Speaker 1: of the moment, but it's interesting to think that it

447
00:16:56,270 --> 00:16:58,280
Speaker 1: did start off as just like a sort of small

448
00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,960
Speaker 1: Canadian romance. And then people are like, I wonder what

449
00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:01,280
Speaker 1: the stranger.

450
00:17:01,686 --> 00:17:05,284
Speaker 1: Cast think of this small Canadian show like almost overtaking

451
00:17:05,285 --> 00:17:07,445
Speaker 1: them in a way in terms of like talkability and

452
00:17:07,445 --> 00:17:09,366
Speaker 1: TikTok trends and it was like it

453
00:17:09,366 --> 00:17:12,025
Speaker 2: had such a low budget, and these guys have only,

454
00:17:12,206 --> 00:17:14,645
Speaker 2: like this is the first major roles they've played, not

455
00:17:14,645 --> 00:17:16,984
Speaker 2: even knowing it was gonna be a major role for them,

456
00:17:17,206 --> 00:17:19,405
Speaker 2: and now they're about to do like their first late

457
00:17:19,405 --> 00:17:21,605
Speaker 2: night talk shows and stuff and I'm like, I just

458
00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:22,346
Speaker 2: want them,

459
00:17:22,733 --> 00:17:24,874
Speaker 2: To be happy and I don't want anyone to paint them.

460
00:17:24,933 --> 00:17:27,294
Speaker 2: It's a lot, and like there was all this footage

461
00:17:27,294 --> 00:17:30,494
Speaker 2: of Hudson arriving at Jimmy Fallon today and like hundreds

462
00:17:30,494 --> 00:17:32,933
Speaker 2: of people had waited all day long in lines to

463
00:17:32,933 --> 00:17:34,812
Speaker 2: catch a glimpse of him, and a bunch of the

464
00:17:34,813 --> 00:17:36,654
Speaker 2: tweets I saw were like he's such a Leo rising

465
00:17:36,654 --> 00:17:39,013
Speaker 2: because he's grinning from ear to ear, he's so happy

466
00:17:39,014 --> 00:17:42,052
Speaker 2: with like just the situation he's in, having been literally

467
00:17:42,053 --> 00:17:45,193
Speaker 2: waiting tables when he got cast, but you do worry

468
00:17:45,894 --> 00:17:49,174
Speaker 2: they both were, yeah, yeah, and like you worry for

469
00:17:49,174 --> 00:17:51,254
Speaker 2: them and their co-stars have worried for them who have more.

470
00:17:51,748 --> 00:17:53,667
Speaker 2: Because they went from both having like a few 1000

471
00:17:53,667 --> 00:17:56,638
Speaker 2: followers on Instagram to now being above a million to

472
00:17:56,638 --> 00:17:58,508
Speaker 2: like you said, all of this big stuff, but also

473
00:17:58,508 --> 00:18:00,787
Speaker 2: being the talk of Hollywood. Like they were joked about

474
00:18:00,787 --> 00:18:03,026
Speaker 2: in the Critics' Choice monologue, they're gonna host at the

475
00:18:03,027 --> 00:18:06,067
Speaker 2: Golden Globes, every red carpet, celebrities who have nothing to

476
00:18:06,067 --> 00:18:08,868
Speaker 2: do with this show are getting asked about it, like,

477
00:18:08,878 --> 00:18:11,307
Speaker 2: that's a level of fame that you rarely see that

478
00:18:11,307 --> 00:18:14,228
Speaker 2: growth that quickly. Yeah, yeah. Who has had that recently,

479
00:18:14,268 --> 00:18:17,587
Speaker 2: like maybe like Chapel Rone's rise, maybe the Bridgerton cast

480
00:18:17,587 --> 00:18:19,968
Speaker 2: in like 2020, but you don't see it that quick.

481
00:18:20,242 --> 00:18:22,321
Speaker 2: Reminds me of Justin Bieber when that happened and then

482
00:18:22,322 --> 00:18:24,122
Speaker 2: that girl stole his hat and it became a whole

483
00:18:24,122 --> 00:18:27,401
Speaker 2: thing and it's got like a One Direction level of

484
00:18:27,401 --> 00:18:31,041
Speaker 2: fan fever, like it feels like that wild and I'm

485
00:18:31,041 --> 00:18:33,501
Speaker 2: part of it, but like I'm worried about the problematic,

486
00:18:33,761 --> 00:18:35,242
Speaker 2: but I do worry for them on the side of

487
00:18:35,242 --> 00:18:37,722
Speaker 2: people who have like started digging into their personal lives.

488
00:18:37,761 --> 00:18:39,442
Speaker 2: It's like leave it, can we just love the show

489
00:18:39,442 --> 00:18:40,150
Speaker 2: and leave it? Yeah,

490
00:18:40,202 --> 00:18:42,831
Speaker 1: I didn't love that when people started like doxing like

491
00:18:42,832 --> 00:18:45,322
Speaker 1: their relationships and the people they've been with in the

492
00:18:45,322 --> 00:18:48,362
Speaker 1: past and all that sort of stuff and like this, yeah,

493
00:18:48,482 --> 00:18:48,872
Speaker 1: to an extent.

494
00:18:49,056 --> 00:18:51,316
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Dinois kind of led the charge on that one,

495
00:18:51,706 --> 00:18:53,895
Speaker 1: which brings us to a very important episode that we're

496
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about. Episode 3, Hunter.

497
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Speaker 2: Oh my God.

498
00:18:58,216 --> 00:18:59,764
Speaker 1: One of my, I mean, look, the thing is I

499
00:18:59,765 --> 00:19:03,255
Speaker 1: love every episode, but this was such an incredible stand

500
00:19:03,255 --> 00:19:04,056
Speaker 2: cinema. This could

501
00:19:04,056 --> 00:19:06,605
Speaker 2: have been a movie, could have been a short film,

502
00:19:06,816 --> 00:19:08,254
Speaker 2: and I think it deserves

503
00:19:08,255 --> 00:19:10,855
Speaker 1: with a bottle episode, which is an episode like this

504
00:19:10,855 --> 00:19:12,816
Speaker 1: where it has, I mean, I know there's they obviously

505
00:19:12,816 --> 00:19:14,686
Speaker 1: pop up later in the and have a moment later

506
00:19:14,686 --> 00:19:17,375
Speaker 1: in the show, but a bottle episode where you have

507
00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:17,735
Speaker 1: a whole.

508
00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:21,050
Speaker 1: Characters storyline and beginning, middle and end in one episode

509
00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:24,030
Speaker 1: is really hard to pull off because you don't have

510
00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:26,869
Speaker 1: that slow burn, you have to accelerate the story, but

511
00:19:26,869 --> 00:19:28,709
Speaker 1: this was done so perfectly right, it felt like a

512
00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:29,599
Speaker 1: short film. It did,

513
00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:32,619
Speaker 2: it was my favorite episode in the whole season. So

514
00:19:32,619 --> 00:19:35,070
Speaker 2: many people have it as their favorite, like, and it

515
00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:37,820
Speaker 2: was him because I loved him in Schitt's Creek, he

516
00:19:37,820 --> 00:19:41,989
Speaker 2: was so funny and like their love story is like

517
00:19:41,989 --> 00:19:43,390
Speaker 2: an M. Hen book, like you would read,

518
00:19:43,469 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 1: it feels like

519
00:19:43,879 --> 00:19:46,149
Speaker 1: something you would read chemistry off the charts, so the

520
00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:46,509
Speaker 1: episode we're talking.

521
00:19:47,044 --> 00:19:50,874
Speaker 1: About, um, episode 3 Hunter, we have Scott Hunter who's,

522
00:19:50,924 --> 00:19:52,322
Speaker 1: you know, in a bit of a difficult position with

523
00:19:52,323 --> 00:19:55,394
Speaker 1: his career, um, and he's like an older hockey player,

524
00:19:55,644 --> 00:19:56,523
Speaker 2: and by older I mean like

525
00:19:56,524 --> 00:19:59,164
Speaker 1: 30s. Yeah, everyone's like it's over for that old man.

526
00:19:59,433 --> 00:19:59,634
Speaker 2: They're like

527
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Speaker 2: he's 100,000

528
00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:02,733
Speaker 1: years old is messaging like he's so old

529
00:20:02,733 --> 00:20:03,644
Speaker 2: and it's like, no,

530
00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:06,562
Speaker 1: he can't believe he's still going. So he takes a

531
00:20:06,563 --> 00:20:09,183
Speaker 1: little detour in a smoothie shop where he meets Kip

532
00:20:09,183 --> 00:20:12,803
Speaker 1: and there is an instant attraction and flirtation between a

533
00:20:12,803 --> 00:20:15,303
Speaker 1: star hockey player and smoothie maker.

534
00:20:15,608 --> 00:20:18,217
Speaker 1: And him coming back in to like keep ordering the

535
00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:21,618
Speaker 1: same smoothie this flirtation and then the night they finally

536
00:20:21,618 --> 00:20:23,238
Speaker 1: go back to Scott's place and hook up for the

537
00:20:23,238 --> 00:20:25,446
Speaker 1: first time, so freaking romantic, I

538
00:20:25,447 --> 00:20:29,258
Speaker 2: can't is so beautiful. Also what I found really funny

539
00:20:29,258 --> 00:20:31,297
Speaker 2: is that every man in the series has to have

540
00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:34,218
Speaker 2: a six pack. Like why, what purpose does Kip need

541
00:20:34,218 --> 00:20:34,618
Speaker 2: a six

542
00:20:34,618 --> 00:20:38,337
Speaker 1: pack? Well, for user, I loved that. Don't take his

543
00:20:38,337 --> 00:20:40,858
Speaker 1: six pack away from me. He's beautiful, but I was

544
00:20:40,858 --> 00:20:41,488
Speaker 1: just like,

545
00:20:42,238 --> 00:20:44,077
Speaker 2: like, OK, guy in smoothie shop, sure.

546
00:20:44,472 --> 00:20:46,031
Speaker 1: And what is so sweet is that at the beginning

547
00:20:46,031 --> 00:20:47,751
Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of a power imbalance between

548
00:20:47,751 --> 00:20:51,192
Speaker 1: them obviously because Scott's this huge star and Kip is

549
00:20:51,192 --> 00:20:53,212
Speaker 1: like waiting to get back into school and all these things,

550
00:20:53,431 --> 00:20:55,362
Speaker 1: and I love that moment where they actually they hooked

551
00:20:55,362 --> 00:20:57,791
Speaker 1: up for the first time and Kip's like almost like

552
00:20:57,791 --> 00:20:59,551
Speaker 1: I know my place, I'm getting dressed, I'm going home

553
00:20:59,551 --> 00:21:00,952
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and Scott wakes up

554
00:21:00,952 --> 00:21:02,992
Speaker 1: and is like so desperate to stay and be there

555
00:21:02,992 --> 00:21:05,111
Speaker 1: when he wakes up in the morning and it kind

556
00:21:05,112 --> 00:21:07,411
Speaker 1: of sets the tone for where their relationship is gonna go.

557
00:21:07,551 --> 00:21:10,271
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's also like a bit of vulnerability too

558
00:21:10,271 --> 00:21:12,380
Speaker 2: in like, I mean I was also flabbergasted, it was

559
00:21:12,381 --> 00:21:12,612
Speaker 2: very em hen.

560
00:21:13,125 --> 00:21:14,764
Speaker 2: Like bring him over, take all your clothes off and

561
00:21:14,765 --> 00:21:15,725
Speaker 2: be like, do you want the tour, or do you

562
00:21:15,726 --> 00:21:18,916
Speaker 2: wanna go hook up? But like, he was also still

563
00:21:18,916 --> 00:21:21,524
Speaker 2: a bit vulnerable in testing the waters of like, would

564
00:21:21,525 --> 00:21:23,926
Speaker 2: you be into me, what's the stitch? But then once

565
00:21:23,926 --> 00:21:26,605
Speaker 2: he had it under his mind that it was right,

566
00:21:26,645 --> 00:21:28,005
Speaker 2: and he like picks him up, yeah,

567
00:21:28,285 --> 00:21:31,245
Speaker 1: yeah. Em just wants to sit here and now go

568
00:21:31,245 --> 00:21:34,035
Speaker 1: through her favorite scenes like one by one every scene

569
00:21:34,035 --> 00:21:36,274
Speaker 1: with then he picks them up, then they kiss

570
00:21:36,275 --> 00:21:36,476
Speaker 2: and

571
00:21:36,476 --> 00:21:36,515
Speaker 1: then

572
00:21:36,515 --> 00:21:36,955
Speaker 2: they kiss,

573
00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:39,125
Speaker 1: then he makes him pasta salad, it's just the whole

574
00:21:39,125 --> 00:21:39,244
Speaker 1: thing.

575
00:21:39,306 --> 00:21:41,806
Speaker 2: But it does speak to the power of a crush because.

576
00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:44,089
Speaker 2: He gets one smoothie and like a little wink to

577
00:21:44,089 --> 00:21:45,820
Speaker 2: a dude and then he gets a hat trick and

578
00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:47,259
Speaker 2: he has to keep going back because he's got a

579
00:21:47,259 --> 00:21:49,099
Speaker 2: crush and he's like suddenly I'm the best player in

580
00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:52,139
Speaker 2: the league. And it's so different to the slow burn

581
00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:54,180
Speaker 2: that we're seeing with our other two main characters, whereas

582
00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,579
Speaker 2: theirs was very much love at first sight. Like they

583
00:21:56,579 --> 00:22:00,060
Speaker 2: both fell for each other so quickly, so intensely, and

584
00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:02,739
Speaker 2: then it's only after they've established that they love each

585
00:22:02,739 --> 00:22:04,060
Speaker 2: other and they want to be together, that's when you

586
00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:07,459
Speaker 2: see the rifts in their relationship because Scott is obviously

587
00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:09,459
Speaker 2: a hockey player and he's like, I can't come out,

588
00:22:09,540 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 2: I've never come out.

589
00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:13,103
Speaker 2: Kip is out and he's like at his birthday party

590
00:22:13,103 --> 00:22:14,833
Speaker 2: by himself and he wants to do all these things

591
00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:17,274
Speaker 2: with his boyfriend, then his boyfriend can't do it and

592
00:22:17,274 --> 00:22:19,674
Speaker 2: the scene that like I think nearly broke me was

593
00:22:19,674 --> 00:22:20,764
Speaker 2: the art gallery scene.

594
00:22:21,114 --> 00:22:22,833
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's so like

595
00:22:24,994 --> 00:22:26,634
Speaker 2: like you so bad, like it's all he wanted was

596
00:22:26,634 --> 00:22:28,313
Speaker 2: to be able to like go do something with him.

597
00:22:28,394 --> 00:22:29,973
Speaker 2: I mean he has like a full anxiety

598
00:22:29,973 --> 00:22:30,154
Speaker 2: attack,

599
00:22:30,664 --> 00:22:33,014
Speaker 1: which is understandable not just because of who he is

600
00:22:33,014 --> 00:22:35,273
Speaker 1: and the pressure that any sports person would feel in

601
00:22:35,274 --> 00:22:37,794
Speaker 1: that situation, especially as he like when he's giving that

602
00:22:37,794 --> 00:22:39,433
Speaker 1: speech later on, he talks about as we were saying before.

603
00:22:39,687 --> 00:22:42,128
Speaker 1: Like the pressure that he felt of knowing that people

604
00:22:42,128 --> 00:22:45,478
Speaker 1: in his league were making like homophobic slurs and things,

605
00:22:45,687 --> 00:22:47,898
Speaker 1: but also the fact that he was orphaned quite young

606
00:22:47,898 --> 00:22:50,967
Speaker 1: and that team and that sport is his family and

607
00:22:50,968 --> 00:22:53,848
Speaker 1: his whole community. So it's also that added pressure on

608
00:22:53,848 --> 00:22:55,768
Speaker 1: him of like, if I come out, will I be

609
00:22:55,768 --> 00:22:58,427
Speaker 1: giving up the only family and community I have.

610
00:22:58,638 --> 00:23:00,686
Speaker 2: And it's contrasted so well with the fact that like

611
00:23:00,687 --> 00:23:03,927
Speaker 2: Kip's dad is such a sweetheart and he's so supportive

612
00:23:03,927 --> 00:23:05,807
Speaker 2: and just like loves and hugs his son all the

613
00:23:05,807 --> 00:23:07,446
Speaker 2: time and he's so proud of him and that he's like,

614
00:23:07,488 --> 00:23:08,287
Speaker 2: when are you coming home?

615
00:23:08,381 --> 00:23:09,931
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he's like out and happy and he's like,

616
00:23:09,942 --> 00:23:12,141
Speaker 2: you got a boyfriend, like, and then that's not the

617
00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:14,261
Speaker 2: experience Scott's having on the other side. Like yeah, you'd

618
00:23:14,261 --> 00:23:16,301
Speaker 2: be terrified. It'd be so

619
00:23:16,301 --> 00:23:16,650
Speaker 2: scary.

620
00:23:16,742 --> 00:23:18,900
Speaker 1: Just skip ahead to the the like the moment on

621
00:23:18,901 --> 00:23:21,141
Speaker 1: the ice before we go. I think that that might

622
00:23:21,141 --> 00:23:24,061
Speaker 1: be my favorite romantic moment from TV or film for

623
00:23:24,061 --> 00:23:26,101
Speaker 1: like the last 5 years or so. I can't think

624
00:23:26,102 --> 00:23:27,381
Speaker 1: of anything else that I think

625
00:23:27,381 --> 00:23:31,651
Speaker 2: it is the buzziest scene of any TV show in 2025,

626
00:23:31,972 --> 00:23:36,901
Speaker 2: let alone maybe the decade. Like I was just crying

627
00:23:36,901 --> 00:23:37,101
Speaker 2: and then.

628
00:23:37,196 --> 00:23:39,836
Speaker 2: Immediately had to rewatch it. I cried too. Yeah, I

629
00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:40,076
Speaker 2: did

630
00:23:40,076 --> 00:23:42,966
Speaker 2: too. Of course we did. It's beautiful. I was like,

631
00:23:42,976 --> 00:23:45,076
Speaker 1: I stood up. I just, I needed to, I needed

632
00:23:45,076 --> 00:23:46,755
Speaker 1: to do something, but I didn't know what to do

633
00:23:46,755 --> 00:23:48,515
Speaker 1: because they're on TV and they're not real. So I

634
00:23:48,515 --> 00:23:49,166
Speaker 1: just stood up. You were

635
00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:51,166
Speaker 2: like Shane Hollander's dad. You were like,

636
00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:51,895
Speaker 1: I'm, I'm

637
00:23:51,895 --> 00:23:52,176
Speaker 2: watching,

638
00:23:52,235 --> 00:23:54,275
Speaker 1: I just needed to be supportive in some way.

639
00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:58,235
Speaker 2: Jackson Parroll, the cinematographer, he came up with obviously that

640
00:23:58,235 --> 00:24:01,476
Speaker 2: scene with Jacob Tierney with the showrunner, and the panning

641
00:24:01,476 --> 00:24:04,255
Speaker 2: shots of the reactions of Shane, of Ilya to what

642
00:24:04,255 --> 00:24:05,895
Speaker 2: was happening were just so,

643
00:24:06,453 --> 00:24:09,563
Speaker 2: Intense as that music was building, as everyone kind of

644
00:24:09,563 --> 00:24:11,693
Speaker 2: started to understand what was going on and it was

645
00:24:11,693 --> 00:24:14,524
Speaker 2: just such a like bold and beautiful declaration of love,

646
00:24:14,733 --> 00:24:17,453
Speaker 2: and then that goddamn song, like the song's lyrics are

647
00:24:17,453 --> 00:24:19,953
Speaker 2: like I need sunshine, which is what Kip's friend had

648
00:24:19,953 --> 00:24:23,654
Speaker 2: been saying, like at the ball, like he's sunshine and

649
00:24:23,654 --> 00:24:26,254
Speaker 2: you both deserve sunshine, like it was just the perfect

650
00:24:26,254 --> 00:24:28,853
Speaker 2: mix of like the song, the acting, the buzz, the,

651
00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:31,818
Speaker 2: Shots. It was so good because also the fact of

652
00:24:31,818 --> 00:24:35,698
Speaker 2: with his hockey career, like his team won the championship

653
00:24:35,899 --> 00:24:38,217
Speaker 2: and he was like the team captain and he was

654
00:24:38,218 --> 00:24:40,588
Speaker 2: like the old crone that was all their wives and

655
00:24:40,588 --> 00:24:42,299
Speaker 2: kids are coming out and they were like we can't

656
00:24:42,299 --> 00:24:43,489
Speaker 2: believe he did it and he's the only one who's

657
00:24:43,489 --> 00:24:46,019
Speaker 2: by himself on the ice and all of his friends

658
00:24:46,019 --> 00:24:49,789
Speaker 2: are surrounded by their children and their wives and their parents,

659
00:24:50,019 --> 00:24:50,289
Speaker 2: and then

660
00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:50,379
Speaker 1: he

661
00:24:50,379 --> 00:24:50,928
Speaker 2: just looked

662
00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:54,697
Speaker 1: and he just looked up and yeah and just knowing,

663
00:24:54,779 --> 00:24:56,799
Speaker 1: not even being like oh I've got goosebumps.

664
00:24:57,664 --> 00:25:00,744
Speaker 1: But also not just thinking like I'm alone, but thinking

665
00:25:00,744 --> 00:25:02,983
Speaker 1: like there's only one person I wanna share this with

666
00:25:02,983 --> 00:25:05,303
Speaker 1: and he's there right there and it's such an old

667
00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:09,864
Speaker 1: school sports or TV movie cliche, you don't want like

668
00:25:09,864 --> 00:25:11,783
Speaker 1: big sports movies where you have the big kiss at

669
00:25:11,784 --> 00:25:14,573
Speaker 1: the end, or TV shows like famously in like One

670
00:25:14,573 --> 00:25:16,543
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, one of the few sports shows I've watched,

671
00:25:16,823 --> 00:25:19,302
Speaker 1: when they finally win the championship is when Lucas and

672
00:25:19,303 --> 00:25:21,823
Speaker 1: Peyton really get together and kiss for the first time because,

673
00:25:22,009 --> 00:25:25,728
Speaker 1: It's that whole heightened moment of success and victory and

674
00:25:25,728 --> 00:25:27,648
Speaker 1: who do I want standing by my side, and so

675
00:25:27,649 --> 00:25:29,869
Speaker 1: it felt like the moment where they should come together

676
00:25:29,869 --> 00:25:31,348
Speaker 1: and even then like,

677
00:25:31,369 --> 00:25:32,848
Speaker 2: instead of it just being like both of them like

678
00:25:32,848 --> 00:25:35,279
Speaker 2: running to each other, like you still see Kip like

679
00:25:35,558 --> 00:25:37,869
Speaker 2: there's no way he's like hesitate and then his friend

680
00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:40,468
Speaker 2: literally has to push him, yeah, yeah, and his dad's

681
00:25:40,468 --> 00:25:40,779
Speaker 2: like

682
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:42,049
Speaker 1: yeah

683
00:25:42,049 --> 00:25:42,168
Speaker 2: and

684
00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:44,029
Speaker 1: he's like come on come on and he's like, yeah,

685
00:25:44,208 --> 00:25:47,608
Speaker 2: I, I loved the little like you Kip, you Kip,

686
00:25:47,688 --> 00:25:50,468
Speaker 2: there's no-one else, there's no one else, it's just you.

687
00:25:50,983 --> 00:25:54,063
Speaker 2: It was so beautiful, and I did love the commentators going,

688
00:25:54,384 --> 00:25:56,733
Speaker 2: who's he waving down? Is it a fan? Lucky day

689
00:25:56,733 --> 00:25:59,073
Speaker 2: for that fan. What a lucky day for that. And honestly,

690
00:25:59,144 --> 00:26:01,783
Speaker 2: those commentators all throughout other episodes that we'll go back

691
00:26:01,784 --> 00:26:03,943
Speaker 2: to talk about, but like, they'd be like, Shane and

692
00:26:03,943 --> 00:26:06,023
Speaker 2: Ilya practically kissing on the ice and they're like, oh,

693
00:26:06,063 --> 00:26:09,144
Speaker 2: those two chums. Yeah, it just speaks to how straight

694
00:26:09,144 --> 00:26:09,874
Speaker 2: hockey is.

695
00:26:10,183 --> 00:26:10,463
Speaker 1: Yeah.

696
00:26:10,578 --> 00:26:12,458
Speaker 1: That, I think that is what kind of does save

697
00:26:12,458 --> 00:26:14,638
Speaker 1: them a lot of keeping the secret is no one

698
00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:17,889
Speaker 1: would ever suspect because it's just not even on anyone's

699
00:26:17,889 --> 00:26:18,489
Speaker 1: mind that that

700
00:26:18,489 --> 00:26:18,978
Speaker 1: would happen.

701
00:26:19,098 --> 00:26:22,129
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then just watching Shane and Ilya staring at

702
00:26:22,129 --> 00:26:27,058
Speaker 2: the TV as that's happening and then Ilya immediately calling him,

703
00:26:27,299 --> 00:26:29,619
Speaker 2: I'm coming to the cottage. I'll come to

704
00:26:29,619 --> 00:26:30,178
Speaker 2: the cottage.

705
00:26:32,654 --> 00:26:35,093
Speaker 1: Well, again, it's this huge pivotal moment for our two

706
00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:37,213
Speaker 1: main characters because all of a sudden this thing I

707
00:26:37,213 --> 00:26:40,664
Speaker 1: never thought was possible is being done at this huge

708
00:26:40,664 --> 00:26:43,573
Speaker 1: moment where like a championship's been won, it's this huge

709
00:26:43,573 --> 00:26:46,494
Speaker 1: respected player calling his love out onto the ice and

710
00:26:46,494 --> 00:26:48,294
Speaker 1: having that, like not just him coming out but him

711
00:26:48,294 --> 00:26:51,092
Speaker 1: coming out at such a heightened moment, important moment for

712
00:26:51,093 --> 00:26:53,573
Speaker 1: the sport, and both of them knowing that that could

713
00:26:53,573 --> 00:26:56,052
Speaker 1: be possible for them one day, or at least, at

714
00:26:56,053 --> 00:26:58,203
Speaker 1: least wanting that like Ilya saying like I'll come to

715
00:26:58,203 --> 00:26:59,894
Speaker 1: the cottage is very much like,

716
00:26:59,958 --> 00:27:01,909
Speaker 2: Or this could be us one day, maybe

717
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: surge of like we can

718
00:27:02,879 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: have that, yeah, especially like at that point in time,

719
00:27:05,159 --> 00:27:06,598
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about when we talk about that episode,

720
00:27:06,678 --> 00:27:08,999
Speaker 1: but Scott and are they gonna be in season

721
00:27:08,999 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: two, do we know? Yeah, cause all of the characters

722
00:27:11,879 --> 00:27:14,078
Speaker 2: in the book sort of stick around and intertwine and

723
00:27:14,078 --> 00:27:15,558
Speaker 2: things like that, and I mean there's been such a

724
00:27:15,558 --> 00:27:17,838
Speaker 2: big reaction to Scott and Kip that everyone's loving, so

725
00:27:17,838 --> 00:27:19,918
Speaker 1: surely they'll still be. I want a whole spin-off show

726
00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:21,869
Speaker 1: of them. Like that wasn't enough. Yeah,

727
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:23,828
Speaker 2: well they were the first, they were the first book,

728
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:25,539
Speaker 2: and that's why it was so important to give them

729
00:27:25,539 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 2: whole TV

730
00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:27,279
Speaker 1: show then, yeah, right.

731
00:27:28,034 --> 00:27:28,794
Speaker 2: I mean, Jacob,

732
00:27:29,154 --> 00:27:30,754
Speaker 1: what are you, Jacob, what are you doing with your time?

733
00:27:31,193 --> 00:27:33,853
Speaker 2: Jacob, stop to it. But I did love the concept

734
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:36,433
Speaker 2: of Shane's parents watching that and being, I mean, I'm

735
00:27:36,433 --> 00:27:38,154
Speaker 2: sure everyone in hockey, it was like the whole country

736
00:27:38,154 --> 00:27:40,914
Speaker 2: was invested in that scene, but Shane's parents were watching

737
00:27:40,914 --> 00:27:42,953
Speaker 2: and kind of had that vibe of looking over at

738
00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:44,154
Speaker 2: him a bit and,

739
00:27:44,674 --> 00:27:46,994
Speaker 2: That was interesting and we'll talk about that later, but

740
00:27:46,994 --> 00:27:49,313
Speaker 2: also the fact that Scott had sort of hinted that

741
00:27:49,313 --> 00:27:53,624
Speaker 2: he knew, multiple times that Shane and Ilya were hooking up.

742
00:27:53,953 --> 00:27:56,794
Speaker 2: Like the first time we meet Scott in his episode,

743
00:27:57,034 --> 00:27:59,674
Speaker 2: it's like right after a little bit of banter and talking.

744
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,568
Speaker 2: About the hotel room between Shane and Ilya, and then

745
00:28:02,568 --> 00:28:04,608
Speaker 2: Shane leans back and Scott's like, so what are you

746
00:28:04,608 --> 00:28:07,888
Speaker 2: guys talking about? And like, he jokes on the ice

747
00:28:07,889 --> 00:28:09,668
Speaker 2: or like when they're angry, him and Shane having a

748
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:11,447
Speaker 2: bit of a feud, he's like, oh, you're starting to

749
00:28:11,448 --> 00:28:13,848
Speaker 2: sound like your boy. And then he gets bashed up

750
00:28:13,848 --> 00:28:14,927
Speaker 2: and he gets bashed up.

751
00:28:15,303 --> 00:28:17,504
Speaker 2: And they have a little fight, um, but it's he's

752
00:28:17,504 --> 00:28:19,624
Speaker 2: being kind of clear that he thinks he knows what's

753
00:28:19,624 --> 00:28:22,063
Speaker 2: going on there, and so also the idea that Ilya

754
00:28:22,063 --> 00:28:24,303
Speaker 2: and Shane are seeing this happen and realizing that like

755
00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:28,024
Speaker 2: maybe he's just like them is also probably really like

756
00:28:28,024 --> 00:28:30,624
Speaker 2: interesting and informative to them to be like and and

757
00:28:30,624 --> 00:28:32,504
Speaker 2: you could even see it in the beginning of,

758
00:28:32,593 --> 00:28:37,274
Speaker 2: The Scott episode, it's like flashbacks to the second episode

759
00:28:37,274 --> 00:28:40,154
Speaker 2: through Scott's eyes and like how he's reacting to everything

760
00:28:40,154 --> 00:28:43,713
Speaker 2: that's happening, which was done so well. I love him

761
00:28:43,713 --> 00:28:46,014
Speaker 2: so much. I love him so much, he's so beautiful,

762
00:28:46,233 --> 00:28:48,274
Speaker 2: and he is just really rounding out that trio on

763
00:28:48,274 --> 00:28:51,994
Speaker 2: the press tour, like, it's gorgeous, gorgeous man saying the

764
00:28:51,994 --> 00:28:53,034
Speaker 2: funniest shit you've ever heard.

765
00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:53,593
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's

766
00:28:53,593 --> 00:28:55,333
Speaker 1: all we want from a press tour really.

767
00:28:57,093 --> 00:29:00,414
Speaker 1: So back to our two main lads, Shane and Ilya, obviously,

768
00:29:00,813 --> 00:29:01,494
Speaker 1: um, firstly,

769
00:29:01,603 --> 00:29:03,894
Speaker 2: can we talk about the real estate in the show? Oh, OK,

770
00:29:04,164 --> 00:29:04,894
Speaker 1: oh sure, that's what you wanna talk

771
00:29:04,894 --> 00:29:05,164
Speaker 1: about

772
00:29:05,164 --> 00:29:08,254
Speaker 2: Shane Holland real estate, and I'm like thank God cause

773
00:29:08,254 --> 00:29:08,933
Speaker 2: I wanna see more of

774
00:29:08,933 --> 00:29:10,813
Speaker 1: this house. Yeah, it was like, he's like, oh, I know,

775
00:29:10,853 --> 00:29:11,973
Speaker 1: I built the cottage. If you guys could

776
00:29:11,973 --> 00:29:13,294
Speaker 2: please have sex in every room

777
00:29:13,294 --> 00:29:14,674
Speaker 1: just so I can see what it's like,

778
00:29:14,973 --> 00:29:17,404
Speaker 2: that would be great. Even the penthouses, I'm like this

779
00:29:17,404 --> 00:29:18,933
Speaker 2: penthouses and these are like

780
00:29:18,933 --> 00:29:19,254
Speaker 2: young boys.

781
00:29:20,144 --> 00:29:21,833
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is what sports players are when they're,

782
00:29:21,914 --> 00:29:24,394
Speaker 1: cos that's the most successful and rich they'll ever be

783
00:29:24,394 --> 00:29:27,103
Speaker 1: in those like years. So that's when they're really splashing

784
00:29:27,103 --> 00:29:30,073
Speaker 1: their money out. And also that is like a beautiful

785
00:29:30,073 --> 00:29:32,233
Speaker 1: thing from like Romances of Yore where you have against

786
00:29:32,233 --> 00:29:34,313
Speaker 1: like those splashy backgrounds and stuff

787
00:29:34,313 --> 00:29:34,553
Speaker 1: like that.

788
00:29:34,583 --> 00:29:36,754
Speaker 2: And Kip's like acting at the, like the audience where

789
00:29:36,754 --> 00:29:39,193
Speaker 2: he goes to Scott's like mansion of an apartment and

790
00:29:39,193 --> 00:29:41,524
Speaker 2: he's like, oh my God, it's like what the hell?

791
00:29:42,294 --> 00:29:44,973
Speaker 1: Ah, hooking up with an athlete, what a dream. So

792
00:29:44,973 --> 00:29:46,933
Speaker 1: then we kind of go back, we like, we have

793
00:29:46,933 --> 00:29:49,813
Speaker 1: that beautiful season 3 bottle episode, then we delve back

794
00:29:49,813 --> 00:29:53,853
Speaker 1: into Ilya and Shane and, again, many time jumps. So

795
00:29:53,853 --> 00:29:56,134
Speaker 1: now they've been in this situationship for many, many years,

796
00:29:56,213 --> 00:29:59,053
Speaker 1: but as they become more successful, things are becoming more complex, yeah.

797
00:29:59,134 --> 00:30:02,563
Speaker 2: Yeah. And obviously episode 4 spends like a decent amount

798
00:30:02,563 --> 00:30:04,174
Speaker 2: of time on that day where they hang out and

799
00:30:04,174 --> 00:30:05,794
Speaker 2: have tuna melts, um.

800
00:30:06,884 --> 00:30:09,294
Speaker 2: It's like my dream date, so good, just like watch

801
00:30:09,294 --> 00:30:10,723
Speaker 2: a bit of a tea

802
00:30:10,723 --> 00:30:11,083
Speaker 2: afterwards,

803
00:30:11,333 --> 00:30:13,203
Speaker 1: we should have had them in the studio today. Um,

804
00:30:13,894 --> 00:30:16,614
Speaker 2: I love tuna melts, but I think that like you've

805
00:30:16,614 --> 00:30:18,353
Speaker 1: got some weird takeaways from this show,

806
00:30:18,534 --> 00:30:23,174
Speaker 2: tuna melts, tuna melts, love penthouses. Cottage houses also good,

807
00:30:23,333 --> 00:30:26,333
Speaker 2: really nice, yeah, but like Ilya has his ginger ale

808
00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:29,014
Speaker 2: there for him, like he encourages him to stay and

809
00:30:29,014 --> 00:30:30,563
Speaker 2: they like sleep in the same bed and it's a

810
00:30:30,563 --> 00:30:33,414
Speaker 2: bit more intimate, and then they obviously have a little

811
00:30:33,414 --> 00:30:35,134
Speaker 2: sexual moment where they're like, oh.

812
00:30:35,369 --> 00:30:37,869
Speaker 2: We're catching feelings. And so, like, they do spend a

813
00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:40,670
Speaker 2: decent chunk of time in that episode on just that

814
00:30:40,670 --> 00:30:43,270
Speaker 2: like day that they spend together. And one of the

815
00:30:43,270 --> 00:30:45,430
Speaker 2: things I found interesting was, I don't know, it's just

816
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:48,469
Speaker 2: classic miscommunication in rom-coms, right? Like Ilya's there like, oh,

817
00:30:48,589 --> 00:30:51,150
Speaker 2: Svetlana's OK, she's fine, but I don't know, I guess

818
00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:53,589
Speaker 2: I'll find someone else. And then Shane's just pissed that

819
00:30:53,589 --> 00:30:55,950
Speaker 2: he's mentioning a girl, not reading between the lines of like, no,

820
00:30:56,030 --> 00:31:00,089
Speaker 2: he's talking about you. Obviously. Like, yeah, it's just obviously

821
00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:03,989
Speaker 2: that classic tension, we needed a third act tension breakup and,

822
00:31:04,046 --> 00:31:04,745
Speaker 2: We kind of got it.

823
00:31:05,046 --> 00:31:07,226
Speaker 1: We got it also a bit with the introduction of Rose,

824
00:31:08,086 --> 00:31:08,726
Speaker 1: movie star

825
00:31:08,726 --> 00:31:09,365
Speaker 1: extraordinaire,

826
00:31:09,436 --> 00:31:12,485
Speaker 2: and I love that she was just Jennifer Lawrence. Like

827
00:31:12,485 --> 00:31:15,086
Speaker 2: she was playing like the X-Men character and like that

828
00:31:15,086 --> 00:31:17,525
Speaker 2: was just her whole thing, it was fictional Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah,

829
00:31:17,645 --> 00:31:19,035
Speaker 2: it was fictional Jennifer Lawrence,

830
00:31:19,206 --> 00:31:19,726
Speaker 2: wasn't it?

831
00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:22,446
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you also, Jennifer Lawrence also has that kind

832
00:31:22,446 --> 00:31:25,966
Speaker 1: of just like straight talking but also really understanding kind

833
00:31:25,966 --> 00:31:28,726
Speaker 1: of like lovely girl who could both be like your

834
00:31:28,726 --> 00:31:30,645
Speaker 1: lover or your best friend if you needed a secret

835
00:31:30,645 --> 00:31:32,505
Speaker 1: confident kind of thing, so yeah.

836
00:31:32,781 --> 00:31:34,582
Speaker 1: The highest compliment, if I was Jennifer Lawrence right now,

837
00:31:34,622 --> 00:31:36,732
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's meant to be me, that's amazing. Yeah,

838
00:31:37,131 --> 00:31:37,381
Speaker 1: cos she's

839
00:31:37,381 --> 00:31:37,661
Speaker 2: a great

840
00:31:37,661 --> 00:31:39,582
Speaker 2: character. She would love it too. You just know Jay

841
00:31:39,582 --> 00:31:41,261
Speaker 2: Law's having the best time you know she's watching it.

842
00:31:41,761 --> 00:31:44,842
Speaker 2: I think it's so telling in those like first relationship,

843
00:31:45,102 --> 00:31:47,661
Speaker 2: like when you really catch feelings for someone because Shane

844
00:31:47,661 --> 00:31:50,061
Speaker 2: was obviously pissed at Ilya and he was like, I'm

845
00:31:50,061 --> 00:31:51,541
Speaker 2: leaving and I don't know how to handle it, so

846
00:31:51,541 --> 00:31:53,311
Speaker 2: I'm going. And he was like, and you have a girlfriend,

847
00:31:53,381 --> 00:31:55,771
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna get a girlfriend. Yeah and you're

848
00:31:55,771 --> 00:31:56,722
Speaker 2: gonna see us everywhere

849
00:31:56,722 --> 00:31:58,582
Speaker 1: and I's gonna be a famous actress, so we're gonna

850
00:31:58,582 --> 00:31:59,661
Speaker 1: be everywhere. Yeah,

851
00:31:59,901 --> 00:32:01,421
Speaker 2: I do think it was his insecurity coming.

852
00:32:01,537 --> 00:32:05,027
Speaker 2: Through in remembering that like Ilya's bisexual and has options

853
00:32:05,437 --> 00:32:08,297
Speaker 2: that are both men and women and him going, right, well,

854
00:32:08,388 --> 00:32:09,878
Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna go out there and see what's

855
00:32:09,878 --> 00:32:11,557
Speaker 2: up cos you clearly don't like me that much and

856
00:32:11,557 --> 00:32:13,398
Speaker 2: it's like he's showing you he likes you, you do

857
00:32:13,398 --> 00:32:17,518
Speaker 2: shade sit down, pay attention. But we did out of

858
00:32:17,518 --> 00:32:22,337
Speaker 2: it get another incredibly buzzy scene in the club, arguably

859
00:32:22,758 --> 00:32:25,468
Speaker 2: one of the other buzziest scenes of the year. That scene,

860
00:32:25,758 --> 00:32:28,917
Speaker 2: that scene where he like comes to, wait, I'm bad

861
00:32:28,917 --> 00:32:29,577
Speaker 2: at explaining, someone else.

862
00:32:30,894 --> 00:32:32,593
Speaker 1: So glad you're on a TV pod. Yes.

863
00:32:32,973 --> 00:32:35,494
Speaker 2: But when they go to the club after the recognition,

864
00:32:35,573 --> 00:32:37,294
Speaker 2: first of all, I loved the way that Ilya found

865
00:32:37,294 --> 00:32:39,364
Speaker 2: out with his teammates all being like, yeah, as you said,

866
00:32:39,414 --> 00:32:41,254
Speaker 2: if you're gonna date a famous actress, there's like the

867
00:32:41,254 --> 00:32:42,884
Speaker 2: pap shots, and he gets to see it, and his

868
00:32:42,884 --> 00:32:47,534
Speaker 2: reaction is like, no, and then he backtracks it to like, oh, OK, whoopsies.

869
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:49,333
Speaker 2: And then when they go to the club, one of

870
00:32:49,333 --> 00:32:51,174
Speaker 2: the things I loved that fans pointed out was like,

871
00:32:51,313 --> 00:32:54,404
Speaker 2: Ilya realizes because he sees Rose's friend at the bar,

872
00:32:54,593 --> 00:32:57,073
Speaker 2: like he's clearly been stalking them so much that he

873
00:32:57,073 --> 00:33:00,713
Speaker 2: knows who Rose's friend is, sees him and goes, shit,

874
00:33:00,774 --> 00:33:02,703
Speaker 2: Rose must be here, that must mean Shane's here and

875
00:33:02,703 --> 00:33:06,583
Speaker 2: does his he he knows before he sees he's he's like,

876
00:33:06,593 --> 00:33:08,803
Speaker 2: saw that guy, he's obviously here, and then the perfect

877
00:33:08,803 --> 00:33:11,894
Speaker 2: song plays at the perfect time, all the things she said,

878
00:33:12,233 --> 00:33:14,213
Speaker 2: and the lighting, it is stunning.

879
00:33:15,154 --> 00:33:18,154
Speaker 2: That slow turn as like the music picked up to

880
00:33:18,154 --> 00:33:19,914
Speaker 2: seeing them, I was like, oh my God,

881
00:33:20,024 --> 00:33:23,073
Speaker 1: and the significance of that song, right? Yes, I remember

882
00:33:23,073 --> 00:33:25,514
Speaker 1: that being such a huge thing when that song came

883
00:33:25,514 --> 00:33:28,313
Speaker 1: out with the band Tattoo and the two girls because

884
00:33:28,313 --> 00:33:30,833
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh my God, they're lesbians, and it

885
00:33:30,833 --> 00:33:33,614
Speaker 1: was a huge buzzy thing because there just wasn't any

886
00:33:33,994 --> 00:33:36,994
Speaker 1: like same-sex music duos like that that were like in

887
00:33:36,994 --> 00:33:38,914
Speaker 1: the mainstream, and I'm talking decades, I think it might

888
00:33:38,914 --> 00:33:40,553
Speaker 1: have even been in primary school when it came out

889
00:33:40,553 --> 00:33:42,313
Speaker 1: or like grade 8 or something like so.

890
00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:45,599
Speaker 1: You where it was this like crazy banger thing, it's

891
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:46,359
Speaker 1: a banger

892
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:46,660
Speaker 1: song

893
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: and it kind of had that impact like Robin's like

894
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,950
Speaker 2: dancing on my own, like that like that level of like,

895
00:33:51,959 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 2: oh my God this is a gay song.

896
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just people being and people just like losing

897
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: their minds over the video clip with the two women

898
00:33:57,719 --> 00:33:59,670
Speaker 1: and everything and then it coming out later because they

899
00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: were like packed with their boyfriends and everyone was like,

900
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: oh it was just a publicity stunt, they're pretending to

901
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,219
Speaker 1: be together and that was a huge thing of them

902
00:34:06,219 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: like pretending to be lesbians sell the like mythology.

903
00:34:10,046 --> 00:34:12,644
Speaker 1: Of this song and people thinking that was so envelope pushing,

904
00:34:12,685 --> 00:34:14,125
Speaker 1: which I guess it was at the time, like it

905
00:34:14,125 --> 00:34:17,006
Speaker 1: was a while ago, and just the significance of that

906
00:34:17,006 --> 00:34:20,045
Speaker 1: song to be the one playing in the club, I

907
00:34:20,045 --> 00:34:21,206
Speaker 1: think was really clever.

908
00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:23,206
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fact that then it transitioned to like

909
00:34:23,206 --> 00:34:25,685
Speaker 2: a club version of the song for then Shane to

910
00:34:25,686 --> 00:34:28,875
Speaker 2: see Ilya and then heightening that like, the flashes of

911
00:34:28,875 --> 00:34:31,365
Speaker 2: that scene through Shane taking Rose home to like have

912
00:34:31,365 --> 00:34:33,585
Speaker 2: sex for the first time, I was like this is

913
00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:36,555
Speaker 2: crazy buzz buzzy content they both see each other in

914
00:34:36,555 --> 00:34:37,565
Speaker 2: the club, they're dancing with.

915
00:34:37,682 --> 00:34:41,011
Speaker 2: With other women and they don't say anything to each other,

916
00:34:41,281 --> 00:34:43,572
Speaker 2: and what we've seen so far is that they see

917
00:34:43,572 --> 00:34:45,602
Speaker 2: each other, they notice each other and then they hook

918
00:34:45,602 --> 00:34:48,412
Speaker 2: up together in the privacy, and this was the first

919
00:34:48,411 --> 00:34:51,102
Speaker 2: time where they didn't come together at the end. Yeah,

920
00:34:51,451 --> 00:34:53,572
Speaker 2: and it was just like they were both so jealous

921
00:34:53,572 --> 00:34:56,721
Speaker 2: and so angry and once again maybe we should have

922
00:34:56,721 --> 00:34:59,491
Speaker 2: a conversation about our real feelings, but I'm glad they

923
00:34:59,491 --> 00:35:01,810
Speaker 2: didn't cos we got good TV out of it. Yeah,

924
00:35:01,951 --> 00:35:05,172
Speaker 1: so we have Ilya in the shower and then we have,

925
00:35:05,427 --> 00:35:08,657
Speaker 1: Our other two lovers and their sex scene, which I

926
00:35:08,657 --> 00:35:10,177
Speaker 1: know they keep saying it was a disaster, but it

927
00:35:10,177 --> 00:35:11,298
Speaker 1: didn't look that bad, right? But

928
00:35:11,298 --> 00:35:12,218
Speaker 2: also like

929
00:35:12,218 --> 00:35:14,777
Speaker 1: with the music and the cutting and editor can make

930
00:35:14,778 --> 00:35:15,397
Speaker 1: everything look great,

931
00:35:15,498 --> 00:35:17,937
Speaker 2: yeah, but the whole point, right, was that like he

932
00:35:17,937 --> 00:35:21,137
Speaker 2: had to imagine Ilya in order to have sex with her,

933
00:35:21,177 --> 00:35:23,297
Speaker 2: and so like as her, you can imagine it wasn't

934
00:35:23,298 --> 00:35:24,258
Speaker 2: a great experience.

935
00:35:24,397 --> 00:35:24,647
Speaker 1: Yeah, she

936
00:35:24,647 --> 00:35:27,067
Speaker 2: was probably like, she was probably like, hm, what's happening here?

937
00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:30,818
Speaker 2: Because she eventually was the one to be like, I know,

938
00:35:30,897 --> 00:35:32,218
Speaker 2: like you don't like me,

939
00:35:32,457 --> 00:35:32,738
Speaker 2: yeah.

940
00:35:33,134 --> 00:35:35,394
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was a really a beautiful way

941
00:35:35,394 --> 00:35:37,184
Speaker 1: of it's done because yeah, we had that moment between

942
00:35:37,184 --> 00:35:39,603
Speaker 1: Rose and Shane and and also the heartbreaking thing is

943
00:35:39,603 --> 00:35:41,523
Speaker 1: you can tell how, as he says later, how much

944
00:35:41,523 --> 00:35:44,042
Speaker 1: he wanted to like her like that because he likes

945
00:35:44,043 --> 00:35:45,144
Speaker 1: her so much as a person.

946
00:35:45,674 --> 00:35:47,914
Speaker 1: So he's like, he's this person I love talking to

947
00:35:47,914 --> 00:35:50,154
Speaker 1: that I love spending time with, cos at first when

948
00:35:50,154 --> 00:35:51,593
Speaker 1: she's introduced I'm like oh she's gonna be like a

949
00:35:51,593 --> 00:35:54,194
Speaker 1: vapid actress and you know he's, it's gonna be easy

950
00:35:54,194 --> 00:35:56,573
Speaker 1: to kind of like cosplay a relationship with her because

951
00:35:56,753 --> 00:35:58,513
Speaker 1: she'll only care about the fame, but then when it

952
00:35:58,513 --> 00:36:00,654
Speaker 1: became more than that and they were having an actual relationship,

953
00:36:01,154 --> 00:36:03,154
Speaker 1: it was harder to hide, so you can see how

954
00:36:03,154 --> 00:36:06,614
Speaker 1: much like he's desperate to want to be sexually attracted

955
00:36:06,614 --> 00:36:08,234
Speaker 1: to her that he's almost talking himself,

956
00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:10,293
Speaker 1: Into it because I think he's not just trying to

957
00:36:10,293 --> 00:36:12,252
Speaker 1: be in a relationship with her, you get as a

958
00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:14,964
Speaker 1: viewer for the public facing like he's trying behind the

959
00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:16,293
Speaker 1: scenes to be in a relationship with her cause he's

960
00:36:16,293 --> 00:36:18,332
Speaker 1: like maybe I'm not gay, maybe I love this girl

961
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:20,603
Speaker 1: and this will be fine and everything, all my problems

962
00:36:20,603 --> 00:36:22,813
Speaker 1: will like disappear, and then we had that scene of

963
00:36:22,813 --> 00:36:24,464
Speaker 1: the two of them sitting at the restaurant where she

964
00:36:24,464 --> 00:36:26,734
Speaker 1: was like, I know you love talking to me and

965
00:36:26,734 --> 00:36:28,772
Speaker 1: I know you love being around me, but do you

966
00:36:28,773 --> 00:36:30,934
Speaker 1: like kissing me and he's like, no.

967
00:36:32,303 --> 00:36:33,343
Speaker 1: He really tried, he gave

968
00:36:33,343 --> 00:36:33,464
Speaker 1: it

969
00:36:33,464 --> 00:36:33,783
Speaker 2: a good

970
00:36:33,783 --> 00:36:33,973
Speaker 1: try.

971
00:36:34,103 --> 00:36:37,263
Speaker 2: It was a lovely scene and I just think it

972
00:36:37,263 --> 00:36:40,493
Speaker 2: was so fucking funny that she was like, that's the

973
00:36:40,493 --> 00:36:43,183
Speaker 2: best thing any of my gay ex-boyfriends has ever said

974
00:36:43,184 --> 00:36:43,303
Speaker 2: to

975
00:36:43,303 --> 00:36:43,424
Speaker 2: me.

976
00:36:43,644 --> 00:36:45,664
Speaker 1: I like I grew up in theater, yeah, and which

977
00:36:45,664 --> 00:36:47,183
Speaker 1: again you hear from so many people in theater that

978
00:36:47,194 --> 00:36:48,694
Speaker 1: that is also a true thing. She's like, I've had

979
00:36:48,694 --> 00:36:50,743
Speaker 1: so many gay boyfriends, it's why, also why she was

980
00:36:50,743 --> 00:36:53,663
Speaker 1: kind of like new straight away, but then was so

981
00:36:53,664 --> 00:36:54,214
Speaker 1: much like,

982
00:36:54,224 --> 00:36:54,424
Speaker 2: and

983
00:36:54,424 --> 00:36:56,864
Speaker 2: so kind and supportive and like he had no-one else

984
00:36:56,864 --> 00:36:58,664
Speaker 2: who he could talk to about that, so like that

985
00:36:58,664 --> 00:36:59,263
Speaker 2: was lovely to

986
00:36:59,263 --> 00:36:59,502
Speaker 2: see.

987
00:36:59,624 --> 00:37:00,674
Speaker 1: And I think it's so nice how,

988
00:37:00,836 --> 00:37:02,797
Speaker 1: Like along the way there's so many people who find

989
00:37:02,797 --> 00:37:05,457
Speaker 1: out their secret and are really understanding and lovely about

990
00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:08,346
Speaker 1: it because again we have this threat hanging over their heads,

991
00:37:08,596 --> 00:37:12,156
Speaker 1: but also so many movies or TV shows that have

992
00:37:12,156 --> 00:37:15,826
Speaker 1: a same-sex love story can sometimes only really focus in

993
00:37:15,826 --> 00:37:17,777
Speaker 1: on the bad parts of it in terms of like

994
00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:21,396
Speaker 1: being treated horribly and like backlash and people not understanding

995
00:37:21,396 --> 00:37:23,537
Speaker 1: them and stuff and so it's also lovely to see

996
00:37:23,997 --> 00:37:27,197
Speaker 1: this more accepting storyline that a lot of people would have,

997
00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:29,356
Speaker 1: not everyone obviously, but a lot more people have to

998
00:37:29,356 --> 00:37:30,237
Speaker 1: say like you could,

999
00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:31,330
Speaker 1: Tell people and it could be

1000
00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:31,590
Speaker 1: fine.

1001
00:37:31,810 --> 00:37:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's indicative of the time too, right, because,

1002
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,330
Speaker 2: and also their careers, because all of their male friends

1003
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:38,409
Speaker 2: for the most part seem to be other hockey players

1004
00:37:38,409 --> 00:37:40,449
Speaker 2: who they can't tell, and yet all of the people

1005
00:37:40,449 --> 00:37:42,290
Speaker 2: who they do tell and who they're supported and like

1006
00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:45,449
Speaker 2: championed by are their female friends. Like for Kip, it's

1007
00:37:45,449 --> 00:37:49,530
Speaker 2: his best friend and his co-worker, for Shane, it's obviously Rose,

1008
00:37:49,610 --> 00:37:51,569
Speaker 2: for Ilya it's Savette, Lana, like they all have like

1009
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:53,729
Speaker 2: these women who are being like, no, like, they're a

1010
00:37:53,729 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: safe place to talk about it and get through it

1011
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,770
Speaker 2: because they don't really have anyone else, they've just got

1012
00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:57,330
Speaker 2: hockey players,

1013
00:37:57,850 --> 00:37:59,469
Speaker 1: yeah, hockey players.

1014
00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:04,974
Speaker 1: It's so interesting how like now women are turning to hockey, right,

1015
00:38:05,303 --> 00:38:08,464
Speaker 1: because everyone's so caught up in this story, in this romance,

1016
00:38:08,503 --> 00:38:09,944
Speaker 1: and I know Rachel Reed said that she kind of

1017
00:38:09,944 --> 00:38:12,904
Speaker 1: based around Tupac hockey players who, from my understanding never

1018
00:38:12,904 --> 00:38:14,503
Speaker 1: did hook up. I mean, who knows what happened behind

1019
00:38:14,503 --> 00:38:17,803
Speaker 1: the scenes, but who had a very intense public rivalry,

1020
00:38:18,063 --> 00:38:20,523
Speaker 1: and she did what a lot of women do in

1021
00:38:20,543 --> 00:38:22,424
Speaker 1: their head when they watch like a story like that

1022
00:38:22,424 --> 00:38:23,924
Speaker 1: play out. She's like, hmm, but what if they can,

1023
00:38:24,063 --> 00:38:26,343
Speaker 1: what if they can, which is why I think a

1024
00:38:26,343 --> 00:38:28,183
Speaker 1: lot of the time when I see people interacting in

1025
00:38:28,184 --> 00:38:28,843
Speaker 1: public and having a fight.

1026
00:38:29,013 --> 00:38:29,694
Speaker 1: I'm like, but what if they

1027
00:38:29,694 --> 00:38:31,303
Speaker 2: kiss, asking the brave questions.

1028
00:38:31,934 --> 00:38:34,154
Speaker 1: And so that's what we kind of led to her

1029
00:38:34,154 --> 00:38:36,614
Speaker 1: like writing the story which almost reads like fan fiction

1030
00:38:36,614 --> 00:38:39,643
Speaker 1: but obviously is not. And now you see women so

1031
00:38:39,644 --> 00:38:42,573
Speaker 1: kind of hungry to be in this world that like

1032
00:38:42,573 --> 00:38:44,954
Speaker 1: women have started watching hockey and turning up at hockey

1033
00:38:44,954 --> 00:38:46,374
Speaker 1: games and stuff like that, is that right? Or am

1034
00:38:46,374 --> 00:38:48,053
Speaker 1: I just imagining that TikTok

1035
00:38:48,053 --> 00:38:50,583
Speaker 2: is full of women at hockey games and the caption's

1036
00:38:50,583 --> 00:38:53,164
Speaker 2: always like, but when do they kiss? Yeah, and there's

1037
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,384
Speaker 2: all these women going and calling it the boy aquarium.

1038
00:38:57,043 --> 00:39:00,484
Speaker 2: It's silly, and I've seen fans going again because their

1039
00:39:00,484 --> 00:39:02,924
Speaker 2: outfits are the same colors, like girls have gotten like

1040
00:39:02,924 --> 00:39:05,674
Speaker 2: Ilya Rozanov jerseys and shown up to Boston Bruins again.

1041
00:39:05,884 --> 00:39:06,114
Speaker 1: That's

1042
00:39:06,114 --> 00:39:08,603
Speaker 1: the best thing anyone has ever done, and I love

1043
00:39:08,603 --> 00:39:10,884
Speaker 1: those women are 10 out of 10 no noes.

1044
00:39:11,124 --> 00:39:12,134
Speaker 2: It's

1045
00:39:12,134 --> 00:39:14,003
Speaker 2: taking the piss out of you. It's

1046
00:39:14,003 --> 00:39:14,543
Speaker 2: so funny.

1047
00:39:14,644 --> 00:39:16,283
Speaker 1: You know the hockey players looking and being like, wow,

1048
00:39:16,404 --> 00:39:19,124
Speaker 1: the stands are just full of groups of women, and

1049
00:39:19,124 --> 00:39:21,003
Speaker 1: they're all like kiss, kiss, kiss. I

1050
00:39:21,003 --> 00:39:24,424
Speaker 2: mean it's a win-win, like they're getting fans, they're making money,

1051
00:39:24,753 --> 00:39:25,073
Speaker 2: and we're

1052
00:39:25,073 --> 00:39:25,833
Speaker 2: having a good time,

1053
00:39:26,033 --> 00:39:26,183
Speaker 2: yeah.

1054
00:39:26,773 --> 00:39:29,393
Speaker 2: And I've seen a few like wags of actual players

1055
00:39:29,394 --> 00:39:32,093
Speaker 2: on TikTok have started posting really, just like not stuff

1056
00:39:32,093 --> 00:39:34,373
Speaker 2: to do with heated rivalry but very funny stuff about

1057
00:39:34,374 --> 00:39:36,573
Speaker 2: their husbands, and it'll be like him skating on the

1058
00:39:36,573 --> 00:39:38,083
Speaker 2: ice and the caption will be like, I wonder if

1059
00:39:38,083 --> 00:39:39,493
Speaker 2: he knows he has to fake tan my back when

1060
00:39:39,493 --> 00:39:42,043
Speaker 2: he gets home. Like just stupid stuff, but like hockey

1061
00:39:42,043 --> 00:39:45,013
Speaker 2: wags weren't really something on my for you page previously

1062
00:39:45,013 --> 00:39:48,003
Speaker 2: and now it's like, now's our time. Yeah, it's very

1063
00:39:48,003 --> 00:39:50,013
Speaker 2: much giving the vibe of when Taylor and Travis started

1064
00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:51,773
Speaker 2: dating and we were like, alright, I guess I care about.

1065
00:39:52,279 --> 00:39:52,848
Speaker 2: The NFL now

1066
00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:54,849
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden everyone knew about NFL and

1067
00:39:54,849 --> 00:39:56,249
Speaker 1: like who was in the Super Bowl and who was

1068
00:39:56,249 --> 00:39:58,489
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and who the players were and we

1069
00:39:58,489 --> 00:40:02,208
Speaker 1: weren't just watching the concert. No, exactly, now that's, I mean,

1070
00:40:02,249 --> 00:40:04,888
Speaker 1: I haven't been this invested in ice hockey since Mighty Ducks.

1071
00:40:05,049 --> 00:40:07,928
Speaker 2: No, and what a film may

1072
00:40:07,928 --> 00:40:09,038
Speaker 2: we say a film,

1073
00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:11,688
Speaker 1: exactly, yeah, and they only had a boy and girl

1074
00:40:11,688 --> 00:40:14,248
Speaker 1: kiss in that, so I mean if that is like

1075
00:40:14,249 --> 00:40:16,989
Speaker 1: boring every time, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1076
00:40:17,353 --> 00:40:19,163
Speaker 1: And so now they did bring the Mighty Ducks back

1077
00:40:19,164 --> 00:40:21,664
Speaker 1: as adults, and I'm like, well now what if they kiss,

1078
00:40:21,724 --> 00:40:25,523
Speaker 1: you know, like, what if everyone kisses. Yeah, I feel

1079
00:40:25,523 --> 00:40:27,204
Speaker 1: like ice hockey is now on the radar in a

1080
00:40:27,204 --> 00:40:29,474
Speaker 1: way it just definitely wasn't before. Do we have ice

1081
00:40:29,474 --> 00:40:31,234
Speaker 1: hockey in Australia? Someone tell us. We

1082
00:40:31,234 --> 00:40:33,753
Speaker 2: do, and I've actually seen that there's like a growing

1083
00:40:33,753 --> 00:40:38,043
Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus league of hockey players in like Melbourne and

1084
00:40:38,043 --> 00:40:40,214
Speaker 2: Sydney and stuff, I think. Like I'm not entirely sure

1085
00:40:40,214 --> 00:40:41,724
Speaker 2: what cities they're in, but I know that there's like

1086
00:40:41,724 --> 00:40:44,263
Speaker 2: a growing league for gay players, which is so cool.

1087
00:40:45,093 --> 00:40:46,224
Speaker 1: We should all go to a game.

1088
00:40:46,829 --> 00:40:48,788
Speaker 2: My parents really like ice hockey. They've been to a

1089
00:40:48,789 --> 00:40:49,388
Speaker 2: few games. Oh, they

1090
00:40:49,388 --> 00:40:50,339
Speaker 1: can take us. We

1091
00:40:50,339 --> 00:40:52,368
Speaker 2: can go with them. That'd be so fun.

1092
00:40:52,749 --> 00:40:54,468
Speaker 1: Well, we don't see a lot of hockey in the show,

1093
00:40:54,549 --> 00:40:57,059
Speaker 1: but a very pivotal moment that happens on the ice. Well,

1094
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:59,339
Speaker 1: first of all, we have Shane and Ilya making plans

1095
00:40:59,339 --> 00:41:01,928
Speaker 1: to meet while on the ice, yeah, which I was

1096
00:41:01,928 --> 00:41:04,627
Speaker 1: just like, I was so nervous for them. I'm like, guys,

1097
00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:08,489
Speaker 1: right there, whisper like, yeah, exactly. And then the, and

1098
00:41:08,489 --> 00:41:10,779
Speaker 1: this is obviously after the passing of Ilya's father, and

1099
00:41:10,779 --> 00:41:13,668
Speaker 1: there's like he's feeling very emotional and everything that's happening

1100
00:41:13,668 --> 00:41:15,249
Speaker 1: with Shane, so it's a very heightened moment.

1101
00:41:15,813 --> 00:41:18,654
Speaker 1: And then Shane gets hurt and the cover almost gets

1102
00:41:18,654 --> 00:41:21,623
Speaker 1: blown because Ilya can't hide his feelings for him.

1103
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:25,464
Speaker 2: But once again the commentators are like, that's that's good

1104
00:41:25,464 --> 00:41:28,143
Speaker 2: sportsmanship right there, see, even though they're rivals, he does

1105
00:41:28,144 --> 00:41:29,843
Speaker 2: care for him and it's like they're in love, you idiots.

1106
00:41:30,374 --> 00:41:32,464
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also if like someone you've been playing against

1107
00:41:32,464 --> 00:41:34,184
Speaker 1: for years, everyone knew that like, yes, you have a

1108
00:41:34,184 --> 00:41:36,583
Speaker 1: rivalry but like got knocked to the ground, he looks

1109
00:41:36,583 --> 00:41:38,533
Speaker 1: like he was killed, you would just be like, is

1110
00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:40,783
Speaker 1: he OK? But also it's the way that Ilya was

1111
00:41:40,783 --> 00:41:44,303
Speaker 1: like circling and like he almost, and he's often been

1112
00:41:44,303 --> 00:41:45,623
Speaker 1: the one who's like careful, careful.

1113
00:41:45,783 --> 00:41:48,513
Speaker 1: Careful and the fact that he was about to blow

1114
00:41:48,513 --> 00:41:51,634
Speaker 1: his cover and also as they're taking Shane out and

1115
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,783
Speaker 1: he's like saying like Illy will be worried, tell him,

1116
00:41:53,793 --> 00:41:55,533
Speaker 1: and then he had that fear of like what's gonna happen.

1117
00:41:55,593 --> 00:41:56,783
Speaker 1: and looks so stressed right

1118
00:41:56,783 --> 00:41:56,953
Speaker 1: now

1119
00:41:56,954 --> 00:41:58,873
Speaker 2: and the fear when Shane was high in the hospital

1120
00:41:58,874 --> 00:42:00,823
Speaker 2: like I being in the hospital and he was like,

1121
00:42:00,833 --> 00:42:01,743
Speaker 2: hey,

1122
00:42:02,523 --> 00:42:04,093
Speaker 2: will you come to my cottage?

1123
00:42:06,234 --> 00:42:08,984
Speaker 2: So good, so good, but you would be terrified. You're like,

1124
00:42:08,993 --> 00:42:12,874
Speaker 2: that's my high closeted boyfriend, and he could fuck both

1125
00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:14,694
Speaker 2: of our lives up real bad right now.

1126
00:42:15,154 --> 00:42:16,914
Speaker 1: Exactly. But also again showing that the real, I think

1127
00:42:16,914 --> 00:42:19,793
Speaker 1: that the stakes, again, the injury did move their relationship

1128
00:42:19,793 --> 00:42:21,674
Speaker 1: on a little bit because it kind of gave Ilya

1129
00:42:21,674 --> 00:42:23,634
Speaker 1: this moment of like, oh I really care about him

1130
00:42:23,634 --> 00:42:24,793
Speaker 1: because I'm so worried.

1131
00:42:25,404 --> 00:42:27,563
Speaker 1: Are we ready to move on to the final stage there, romance,

1132
00:42:27,684 --> 00:42:29,833
Speaker 1: AKA the cottage? You don't wanna talk about the cottage

1133
00:42:29,833 --> 00:42:30,234
Speaker 1: I talk about

1134
00:42:30,234 --> 00:42:32,603
Speaker 2: this forever. Yeah, I know. We're almost ready, but there's

1135
00:42:32,603 --> 00:42:34,644
Speaker 2: one thing we have to talk about, which is that yes,

1136
00:42:34,843 --> 00:42:38,114
Speaker 2: Shane's accident happens and there's an invite to the cottage extended,

1137
00:42:38,164 --> 00:42:40,563
Speaker 2: it doesn't actually seem like Ilya was gonna take it

1138
00:42:40,563 --> 00:42:43,364
Speaker 2: until they see, yeah, Scott and Kip being like loud

1139
00:42:43,364 --> 00:42:45,684
Speaker 2: and loud and proud. But something that does happen before

1140
00:42:45,684 --> 00:42:49,204
Speaker 2: that is Ilya tells Shane he loves him just in Russian.

1141
00:42:49,553 --> 00:42:50,164
Speaker 1: Oh my God.

1142
00:42:50,234 --> 00:42:52,553
Speaker 1: Oh, that was the mic drop moment I was waiting

1143
00:42:52,553 --> 00:42:55,073
Speaker 1: for because when you grow up on rom-coms, there's always

1144
00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:57,752
Speaker 1: that big declaration of love, and sometimes it's not her,

1145
00:42:58,013 --> 00:43:00,353
Speaker 1: sometimes someone gets told when they're asleep or in a

1146
00:43:00,353 --> 00:43:03,033
Speaker 1: coma or something like that, and so it did have

1147
00:43:03,033 --> 00:43:05,513
Speaker 1: those kind of like old school rom-com vibes, but that

1148
00:43:05,513 --> 00:43:07,752
Speaker 1: was the I love you mic drop I was waiting for.

1149
00:43:07,944 --> 00:43:08,154
Speaker 2: And it

1150
00:43:08,154 --> 00:43:11,634
Speaker 2: was so just beautiful of Shane to be like, OK,

1151
00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:13,033
Speaker 2: well if you wanna tell me how you feel, just

1152
00:43:13,033 --> 00:43:15,114
Speaker 2: say it in Russian and I'll listen and I'll be here. Hey.

1153
00:43:15,224 --> 00:43:18,743
Speaker 2: Beautiful tears immediately. But also it was like that coming

1154
00:43:18,743 --> 00:43:20,823
Speaker 2: around moment, or one of the ones he might have

1155
00:43:20,823 --> 00:43:23,023
Speaker 2: later reflected on, Ilya of well now my dad's dead

1156
00:43:23,023 --> 00:43:26,424
Speaker 2: and I've just got my shitty blackmailing brother, and his

1157
00:43:26,424 --> 00:43:28,384
Speaker 2: whole thing about not being able to come out was

1158
00:43:28,384 --> 00:43:30,864
Speaker 2: his line of like, no, of Russia, like I cannot

1159
00:43:30,864 --> 00:43:33,053
Speaker 2: go back to Russia if I come out as dead.

1160
00:43:33,384 --> 00:43:34,974
Speaker 2: So that was his whole thing, but then once his

1161
00:43:34,974 --> 00:43:37,303
Speaker 2: dad had died and he didn't really have anything left

1162
00:43:37,303 --> 00:43:39,694
Speaker 2: there for him, and he delivered this whole monologue about

1163
00:43:39,694 --> 00:43:40,103
Speaker 2: how shitty it was.

1164
00:43:40,214 --> 00:43:42,493
Speaker 2: And all he loved was Shane, it was probably like

1165
00:43:42,493 --> 00:43:44,772
Speaker 2: the start of a moment of realization for him that

1166
00:43:44,773 --> 00:43:46,853
Speaker 2: he could want this life with him and have it

1167
00:43:46,853 --> 00:43:49,454
Speaker 2: with him now. And you could hear also like the

1168
00:43:49,454 --> 00:43:51,873
Speaker 2: relief in his voice of getting this off his chest,

1169
00:43:52,013 --> 00:43:54,083
Speaker 2: even though Shane can't understand what he says, and Shane

1170
00:43:54,083 --> 00:43:56,573
Speaker 2: at the end's like, did that help? Yeah, he goes,

1171
00:43:56,694 --> 00:43:58,253
Speaker 2: did that help? Maybe I'll learn Russian one

1172
00:43:58,253 --> 00:43:58,593
Speaker 2: day.

1173
00:43:58,853 --> 00:44:01,414
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so hard because it's the only time that

1174
00:44:01,414 --> 00:44:03,654
Speaker 1: we really have as an audience this big secret from Shane,

1175
00:44:03,843 --> 00:44:04,974
Speaker 1: everyone's like screaming at the TV.

1176
00:44:05,204 --> 00:44:06,053
Speaker 1: He loves you,

1177
00:44:06,204 --> 00:44:08,763
Speaker 2: he loves you, you idiot, you don't know. Do you

1178
00:44:08,763 --> 00:44:10,593
Speaker 2: think Shane knew though? I know he couldn't understand you,

1179
00:44:10,644 --> 00:44:11,993
Speaker 2: but do you think he kind of got the

1180
00:44:11,993 --> 00:44:12,623
Speaker 2: vibe?

1181
00:44:12,843 --> 00:44:14,404
Speaker 1: I don't think he got the vibe of him saying

1182
00:44:14,404 --> 00:44:15,743
Speaker 1: I love you, but I think he got the vibe

1183
00:44:15,743 --> 00:44:18,513
Speaker 1: of he has opened up to me in a way

1184
00:44:18,513 --> 00:44:20,343
Speaker 1: I don't fully get, yeah, even though I can't understand it,

1185
00:44:20,404 --> 00:44:22,042
Speaker 1: he's opened up to me in a new way because

1186
00:44:22,043 --> 00:44:25,164
Speaker 1: you could just feel the heartbreak and tension and relief

1187
00:44:25,164 --> 00:44:26,684
Speaker 1: in his voice even if he didn't know what he

1188
00:44:26,684 --> 00:44:27,224
Speaker 1: was saying.

1189
00:44:27,283 --> 00:44:29,593
Speaker 2: Or even just like a silly thing, right, because I

1190
00:44:29,593 --> 00:44:30,124
Speaker 2: feel like,

1191
00:44:30,593 --> 00:44:32,234
Speaker 2: If we go all the way back to the beginnings

1192
00:44:32,234 --> 00:44:35,114
Speaker 2: of the relationship, if Shane had said something to Ilya

1193
00:44:35,234 --> 00:44:37,114
Speaker 2: in the sense of like, just tell me in Russian,

1194
00:44:37,234 --> 00:44:39,303
Speaker 2: Ilya would have been like, that's so dumb, I wouldn't

1195
00:44:39,303 --> 00:44:40,993
Speaker 2: do that. And the fact that he did that, I

1196
00:44:40,993 --> 00:44:43,704
Speaker 2: think Shane was like, oh, OK, he needed that, he

1197
00:44:43,704 --> 00:44:47,273
Speaker 2: needed that, he needed he listened to me, yeah, beautiful.

1198
00:44:47,803 --> 00:44:50,353
Speaker 1: So that takes us to the cottage, which the stakes

1199
00:44:50,353 --> 00:44:50,984
Speaker 1: could not be higher,

1200
00:44:51,593 --> 00:44:54,253
Speaker 2: beautiful cottage, firstly, amazing. the architecture of the cottage

1201
00:44:54,833 --> 00:44:56,793
Speaker 1: with its own well and fireplace,

1202
00:44:56,914 --> 00:44:58,144
Speaker 2: so nice, it's own well,

1203
00:44:58,894 --> 00:44:59,933
Speaker 1: huge, the water tastes great.

1204
00:45:01,013 --> 00:45:02,654
Speaker 1: I was like soaking every moment. It's a well of

1205
00:45:02,654 --> 00:45:03,484
Speaker 1: just ginger beer.

1206
00:45:05,763 --> 00:45:09,674
Speaker 2: I do love that he arrived in that like slutty

1207
00:45:09,674 --> 00:45:13,083
Speaker 2: little tank top and his backwards little hat and his

1208
00:45:13,083 --> 00:45:15,234
Speaker 2: sunglasses and they're like, did anyone notice you, and it's like,

1209
00:45:15,243 --> 00:45:16,323
Speaker 2: this is Canada.

1210
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,523
Speaker 2: The hockey capital of the world and you're telling me

1211
00:45:19,523 --> 00:45:22,093
Speaker 2: no-one noticed one of the biggest players arriving in the airport,

1212
00:45:22,164 --> 00:45:24,204
Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter, who cares, but it was just

1213
00:45:24,204 --> 00:45:27,884
Speaker 2: so funny. Did anyone notice you? No, sure, OK, OK, whatever,

1214
00:45:28,124 --> 00:45:28,533
Speaker 2: carry on.

1215
00:45:29,253 --> 00:45:30,724
Speaker 1: Yes, and also that kind of like you get into

1216
00:45:30,724 --> 00:45:31,924
Speaker 1: the car and you're like, are they gonna make out

1217
00:45:31,924 --> 00:45:34,783
Speaker 1: straight away, and then it's almost like this polite kind

1218
00:45:34,783 --> 00:45:38,013
Speaker 1: of this like polite he was this Uber driver. Yeah,

1219
00:45:38,124 --> 00:45:39,803
Speaker 1: he's like, should we stop for lunch? I brought groceries,

1220
00:45:39,874 --> 00:45:42,123
Speaker 1: there's plenty of food, but also again like this is

1221
00:45:42,124 --> 00:45:43,964
Speaker 1: the first time they're actually getting to be.

1222
00:45:44,073 --> 00:45:46,884
Speaker 1: Together outside of like the hotel room secrets and the

1223
00:45:46,884 --> 00:45:49,083
Speaker 1: secret texting and like the whispers on the ice

1224
00:45:49,083 --> 00:45:49,603
Speaker 1: and everything

1225
00:45:49,603 --> 00:45:51,163
Speaker 2: and the last time they saw each other was that

1226
00:45:51,164 --> 00:45:53,603
Speaker 2: big combo where Shane was like, I think I'm gay

1227
00:45:53,603 --> 00:45:56,114
Speaker 2: and Ilia just laughed at him, um, but they had

1228
00:45:56,114 --> 00:45:58,523
Speaker 2: that really intimate moment where they hugged, like there was

1229
00:45:58,523 --> 00:46:00,904
Speaker 2: like beauty, then there was the accident on the ice,

1230
00:46:01,083 --> 00:46:02,763
Speaker 2: now we're here. It's been a minute, you know, they're

1231
00:46:02,763 --> 00:46:03,884
Speaker 2: like settling that's I thought that was

1232
00:46:05,753 --> 00:46:07,444
Speaker 1: normal, like I feel like they just started pashing in

1233
00:46:07,444 --> 00:46:08,003
Speaker 1: the car and everything

1234
00:46:08,003 --> 00:46:08,323
Speaker 1: was fine

1235
00:46:08,323 --> 00:46:11,164
Speaker 2: they're just doing relationshipy things like cooking a barbecue.

1236
00:46:12,414 --> 00:46:14,864
Speaker 1: It's like their first time they're in a proper relationship,

1237
00:46:14,874 --> 00:46:17,664
Speaker 1: like they've never had that before. I could have stayed

1238
00:46:17,793 --> 00:46:20,503
Speaker 1: in that cottage with them. I wanna be there forever

1239
00:46:20,884 --> 00:46:23,944
Speaker 1: and them cooking the hamburgers and then having their hookups

1240
00:46:23,944 --> 00:46:26,763
Speaker 1: on the couch and then talking about the wolf birds

1241
00:46:26,763 --> 00:46:30,103
Speaker 1: living in the woods and, and then swimming in the lake,

1242
00:46:30,144 --> 00:46:32,563
Speaker 1: like it was all so perfect and romantic and so

1243
00:46:32,563 --> 00:46:34,643
Speaker 1: earned and I was almost like, can we just stay

1244
00:46:34,644 --> 00:46:35,424
Speaker 1: here forever?

1245
00:46:35,684 --> 00:46:38,364
Speaker 2: I loved the mirroring as well of like,

1246
00:46:38,444 --> 00:46:41,003
Speaker 2: The very first time they hooked up. Again, my shoutouts

1247
00:46:41,003 --> 00:46:43,523
Speaker 2: to TikTok fan editors who should have their own category

1248
00:46:43,523 --> 00:46:46,763
Speaker 2: at the Oscars, but they were like, to be fair,

1249
00:46:46,843 --> 00:46:49,404
Speaker 2: that's probably not that far off. They were like splicing

1250
00:46:49,404 --> 00:46:53,404
Speaker 2: together like frames to show how much it had duplicated

1251
00:46:53,404 --> 00:46:55,644
Speaker 2: that scene of their very first hook-up where Ilya kind

1252
00:46:55,644 --> 00:46:57,123
Speaker 2: of pushes him against the wall, it was the same

1253
00:46:57,124 --> 00:46:59,644
Speaker 2: in the cottage when they first kissed again and had sex,

1254
00:46:59,724 --> 00:47:03,003
Speaker 2: like it was the same imagery being shown over and

1255
00:47:03,003 --> 00:47:04,433
Speaker 2: over again, and I was like, but it's showing how

1256
00:47:04,434 --> 00:47:05,583
Speaker 2: much more romantic and like,

1257
00:47:05,984 --> 00:47:07,783
Speaker 2: Comfortable they were with each other now, I was like

1258
00:47:07,783 --> 00:47:09,333
Speaker 2: good job guys, well done.

1259
00:47:09,743 --> 00:47:11,783
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause at first you just like the first episode

1260
00:47:11,783 --> 00:47:14,303
Speaker 1: like I'd felt zero romance between them, I felt like

1261
00:47:14,303 --> 00:47:15,384
Speaker 1: sexual chemistry.

1262
00:47:15,783 --> 00:47:18,114
Speaker 1: But I was like I would 100% believe that these

1263
00:47:18,114 --> 00:47:20,073
Speaker 1: guys would just hook up and then not have to

1264
00:47:20,073 --> 00:47:22,093
Speaker 1: talk to each other again, like it had that vibe,

1265
00:47:22,353 --> 00:47:24,623
Speaker 1: and then the energy at the end, again it's been

1266
00:47:24,624 --> 00:47:26,394
Speaker 1: many years and they've been through so much, but you

1267
00:47:26,394 --> 00:47:29,194
Speaker 1: really feel that, like the shift, the shift in their

1268
00:47:29,194 --> 00:47:32,013
Speaker 1: chemistry is like such a testament to like their acting

1269
00:47:32,353 --> 00:47:34,194
Speaker 1: and the production of it and everything that you kind

1270
00:47:34,194 --> 00:47:36,493
Speaker 1: of feel like you've lived this moment with them.

1271
00:47:37,263 --> 00:47:38,944
Speaker 1: So good, I just wanted to stay there forever. I

1272
00:47:38,944 --> 00:47:39,023
Speaker 1: would

1273
00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:40,703
Speaker 2: have loved to stay there forever, it would have been

1274
00:47:40,704 --> 00:47:40,904
Speaker 2: so

1275
00:47:40,904 --> 00:47:42,864
Speaker 1: nice. But then of course they come in from the lake,

1276
00:47:42,984 --> 00:47:45,894
Speaker 1: my God, his dad, to have their hotdogs, not the leftovers,

1277
00:47:45,944 --> 00:47:48,763
Speaker 1: to have the fresh hotdogs, and then his dad is there.

1278
00:47:49,063 --> 00:47:51,623
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, out of all the things

1279
00:47:51,624 --> 00:47:54,783
Speaker 2: his dad could walk into, better than anything else, at

1280
00:47:54,783 --> 00:47:56,224
Speaker 2: least it was, yeah, just a kiss, at least it

1281
00:47:56,224 --> 00:47:58,542
Speaker 2: was just a little butt tap and a kiss, but

1282
00:47:58,543 --> 00:48:00,573
Speaker 2: my God, like I had like both hands over my mouth,

1283
00:48:00,624 --> 00:48:02,542
Speaker 2: I was standing up in my living room like I

1284
00:48:02,543 --> 00:48:02,864
Speaker 2: was

1285
00:48:02,864 --> 00:48:03,263
Speaker 2: stressed.

1286
00:48:03,392 --> 00:48:04,822
Speaker 1: I I spent a lot of the show standing up.

1287
00:48:04,832 --> 00:48:06,432
Speaker 1: It's like this is not a sitting down show

1288
00:48:06,432 --> 00:48:09,191
Speaker 2: pacing my apartment. I was like. And then why would

1289
00:48:09,191 --> 00:48:09,352
Speaker 2: he

1290
00:48:09,352 --> 00:48:09,591
Speaker 1: run

1291
00:48:09,592 --> 00:48:09,892
Speaker 2: away?

1292
00:48:10,511 --> 00:48:12,922
Speaker 1: Well, I think he just, just the awkwardness of wanting

1293
00:48:12,922 --> 00:48:13,352
Speaker 1: to like,

1294
00:48:13,422 --> 00:48:15,112
Speaker 2: I think he just felt like he intruded, right? Yeah,

1295
00:48:15,291 --> 00:48:15,432
Speaker 1: because

1296
00:48:15,432 --> 00:48:17,951
Speaker 1: obviously he just wandered into his son's house thinking that

1297
00:48:17,951 --> 00:48:20,511
Speaker 1: he was just picking up something, seeing not just his

1298
00:48:20,511 --> 00:48:23,582
Speaker 1: this verification that his son was gay, at least that's

1299
00:48:23,582 --> 00:48:25,431
Speaker 1: probably what he was thinking in that moment, but also

1300
00:48:25,432 --> 00:48:27,471
Speaker 1: seeing him with someone who he assumed was his sworn

1301
00:48:27,471 --> 00:48:29,211
Speaker 1: enemy for the last 10 years.

1302
00:48:29,759 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: The shock of that, and then them having to get

1303
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,969
Speaker 1: in the car together and Ilya wearing his hockey shirt

1304
00:48:34,969 --> 00:48:36,229
Speaker 1: and him being like, do you have to wear that,

1305
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: and he's like, do you not think they know where

1306
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: I played football? Shane's wearing like a full button-down. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1307
00:48:40,439 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: they both really dressed for the occasion and they obviously

1308
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: did not talk before they got dressed about what the

1309
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 1: vibe was gonna be, and then they get to the parents' house,

1310
00:48:47,989 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: and this is the, the tension here is cos he's

1311
00:48:49,919 --> 00:48:51,678
Speaker 1: so close to his parents and it's the first time

1312
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:53,509
Speaker 1: they've had to sort of go through something like this,

1313
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,999
Speaker 2: and it'd be hard too and heartbreaking cos he had just,

1314
00:48:56,157 --> 00:48:57,728
Speaker 2: Decided OK I'm gonna come out to them, I know

1315
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Speaker 2: what I wanna do and he had a plan in

1316
00:48:59,157 --> 00:49:01,647
Speaker 2: his mind and then obviously that got cooked. So then

1317
00:49:01,647 --> 00:49:03,047
Speaker 2: he's like, well I guess I better do it now

1318
00:49:03,048 --> 00:49:04,427
Speaker 2: and also tell them I'm with you and it's the

1319
00:49:04,427 --> 00:49:07,647
Speaker 2: stakes are so much higher. Yeah, exactly. And also Ilya

1320
00:49:07,647 --> 00:49:10,647
Speaker 2: is so relaxed, like he's eating the pasta, he's having,

1321
00:49:10,838 --> 00:49:13,488
Speaker 2: and I think that's also because he never had what

1322
00:49:13,488 --> 00:49:16,446
Speaker 2: Shane had, which are supportive parents like throughout his whole life,

1323
00:49:16,518 --> 00:49:19,087
Speaker 2: like his mother tragically died, and I think even in

1324
00:49:19,088 --> 00:49:20,687
Speaker 2: the Russian monologue he said like that was the only

1325
00:49:20,687 --> 00:49:21,758
Speaker 2: person who I loved and.

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00:49:22,655 --> 00:49:25,016
Speaker 2: He, I think like deep down he knew it would

1327
00:49:25,016 --> 00:49:27,845
Speaker 2: be fine because he knows Shane's parents. So in that

1328
00:49:27,845 --> 00:49:29,726
Speaker 2: like whole scene he was the only one who was

1329
00:49:29,726 --> 00:49:30,654
Speaker 2: like so chilled

1330
00:49:30,655 --> 00:49:30,976
Speaker 2: out.

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00:49:31,216 --> 00:49:32,975
Speaker 1: Well, he was also probably like this is going great

1332
00:49:32,976 --> 00:49:35,016
Speaker 1: cos his family is like, as he said like awful

1333
00:49:35,016 --> 00:49:37,456
Speaker 1: and he had that terrible relationship with his brother and

1334
00:49:37,655 --> 00:49:39,486
Speaker 1: no-one else to tell, so he's probably like we're all

1335
00:49:39,486 --> 00:49:42,345
Speaker 1: sitting here talking, no one's yelling, everyone's like no one's

1336
00:49:42,345 --> 00:49:43,575
Speaker 1: storming out, like he's probably like

1337
00:49:43,575 --> 00:49:43,765
Speaker 2: this

1338
00:49:43,766 --> 00:49:44,036
Speaker 1: is

1339
00:49:44,036 --> 00:49:45,635
Speaker 2: great bolognaise could not have

1340
00:49:45,635 --> 00:49:48,776
Speaker 2: gone better. Yeah, I also just loved the like,

1341
00:49:49,174 --> 00:49:52,174
Speaker 2: The lover's bit where he's like where um and then

1342
00:49:52,174 --> 00:49:54,924
Speaker 2: Ilya interjects and goes, lovers, and he's like no that's gross,

1343
00:49:55,013 --> 00:49:55,974
Speaker 2: no that's gross.

1344
00:49:56,694 --> 00:49:58,474
Speaker 2: He's trying so hard to help and he really is

1345
00:49:58,474 --> 00:50:00,174
Speaker 2: just like happy to be there, you're right, he just

1346
00:50:00,174 --> 00:50:02,513
Speaker 2: seems chill and happy and like fine with whatever happens.

1347
00:50:02,773 --> 00:50:05,163
Speaker 1: And also like the parents like kind of almost flipping

1348
00:50:05,164 --> 00:50:07,333
Speaker 1: back into that idea like even if you tell your

1349
00:50:07,333 --> 00:50:09,772
Speaker 1: parents something huge, they still flip back into the people

1350
00:50:09,773 --> 00:50:11,752
Speaker 1: they were with his dad like trying to piece it

1351
00:50:11,753 --> 00:50:14,234
Speaker 1: together and be supportive and his mum goes into business mode. Yeah,

1352
00:50:14,333 --> 00:50:14,454
Speaker 2: she's

1353
00:50:14,454 --> 00:50:15,543
Speaker 2: the Kris Jenner of gay hockey

1354
00:50:15,543 --> 00:50:15,904
Speaker 2: romance

1355
00:50:15,904 --> 00:50:18,654
Speaker 1: 100%, yeah, which in a way I actually thought was

1356
00:50:18,654 --> 00:50:21,053
Speaker 1: really touching because she was just like,

1357
00:50:21,178 --> 00:50:22,609
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, this is what we do now and

1358
00:50:22,609 --> 00:50:24,138
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look after you the same way and like

1359
00:50:24,138 --> 00:50:26,018
Speaker 1: this is fine and like here's how we can make

1360
00:50:26,019 --> 00:50:27,937
Speaker 1: money and here's how we can like tell the right

1361
00:50:27,938 --> 00:50:29,698
Speaker 1: people and here's how we can protect you like she

1362
00:50:29,698 --> 00:50:32,378
Speaker 1: just went into mumma mode cos that's what she knows.

1363
00:50:32,819 --> 00:50:34,688
Speaker 1: That's how she knows to be supportive, so she just

1364
00:50:34,688 --> 00:50:35,728
Speaker 1: reverted back to that.

1365
00:50:36,059 --> 00:50:37,289
Speaker 2: Shane's mum, Yuna, who's

1366
00:50:37,289 --> 00:50:37,418
Speaker 1: played

1367
00:50:37,418 --> 00:50:40,058
Speaker 2: by Christina Chang, amazing actor cos you could also see

1368
00:50:40,059 --> 00:50:43,259
Speaker 2: like in her eyes like her, realizing what's been going

1369
00:50:43,259 --> 00:50:45,779
Speaker 2: on and then you see that end scene of her going,

1370
00:50:46,174 --> 00:50:47,973
Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't feel like you could have

1371
00:50:47,974 --> 00:50:50,644
Speaker 2: told me, yeah, and I think that scene also was

1372
00:50:50,644 --> 00:50:52,614
Speaker 2: really good, there were a couple of scenes in this

1373
00:50:52,614 --> 00:50:55,194
Speaker 2: episode in particular are portraying like the fact that Shane

1374
00:50:55,194 --> 00:50:57,813
Speaker 2: is on the spectrum and has autism, because it's never

1375
00:50:57,813 --> 00:50:59,563
Speaker 2: something they say outright in the show but it's something

1376
00:50:59,563 --> 00:51:01,513
Speaker 2: they wanted to make sure they brought to screen and like,

1377
00:51:01,894 --> 00:51:04,614
Speaker 2: when he can't make eye contact with her in that conversation, when,

1378
00:51:04,954 --> 00:51:06,394
Speaker 2: They he has the sort of freak out at the

1379
00:51:06,394 --> 00:51:08,464
Speaker 2: table and Ilya has to be like, your boyfriend is here,

1380
00:51:08,543 --> 00:51:10,384
Speaker 2: your family is here, everyone loves you, like they just

1381
00:51:10,384 --> 00:51:12,783
Speaker 2: did little small things that also showed how he would

1382
00:51:12,783 --> 00:51:16,433
Speaker 2: be processing this like life altering moment that he was

1383
00:51:16,434 --> 00:51:18,674
Speaker 2: forced into when he wasn't ready. Yeah, I think they

1384
00:51:18,674 --> 00:51:19,904
Speaker 2: just did a really great job of showing that.

1385
00:51:19,964 --> 00:51:21,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and then we had that moment of the

1386
00:51:21,674 --> 00:51:24,273
Speaker 1: two of them driving away from the cottage, and then

1387
00:51:24,273 --> 00:51:27,393
Speaker 1: they kind of and the intimacy and it's such a,

1388
00:51:27,593 --> 00:51:31,234
Speaker 1: it's also like to finish the season leave you feeling

1389
00:51:31,234 --> 00:51:33,513
Speaker 1: satisfied but also so hungry for.

1390
00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:36,303
Speaker 1: More, I was like, I cannot believe there is not

1391
00:51:36,303 --> 00:51:38,533
Speaker 1: a second season right now. I know they're making it

1392
00:51:38,533 --> 00:51:38,583
Speaker 1: I'm

1393
00:51:38,583 --> 00:51:40,013
Speaker 2: like we've been through all of this, I just wanna

1394
00:51:40,013 --> 00:51:40,763
Speaker 2: see them happy.

1395
00:51:40,944 --> 00:51:42,984
Speaker 1: I just wanna see the next stage of the story,

1396
00:51:43,063 --> 00:51:44,783
Speaker 1: so at least we know we're getting, they're working on

1397
00:51:44,783 --> 00:51:47,783
Speaker 1: season two now, we're getting it, but, and obviously there's

1398
00:51:47,783 --> 00:51:50,263
Speaker 1: gonna be like harder stakes for them now that they are,

1399
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:52,543
Speaker 1: it's almost like less safe now for them than they

1400
00:51:52,543 --> 00:51:55,003
Speaker 1: are in this committed, loving relationship, how they're gonna navigate

1401
00:51:55,434 --> 00:51:57,542
Speaker 1: their profession and the publicity and everything around

1402
00:51:57,543 --> 00:51:57,704
Speaker 1: it,

1403
00:51:57,823 --> 00:52:00,384
Speaker 2: but, and Jacob's confirmed like it's gonna be them, they're

1404
00:52:00,384 --> 00:52:02,263
Speaker 2: gonna stay the main characters because people will wonder.

1405
00:52:02,374 --> 00:52:04,614
Speaker 2: Is season two gonna be like the other characters and

1406
00:52:04,614 --> 00:52:06,843
Speaker 2: is it gonna change like how Bridgerton does? No, it's

1407
00:52:06,843 --> 00:52:08,803
Speaker 2: Ilya and Shane's story all the way through, but they'll

1408
00:52:08,803 --> 00:52:11,283
Speaker 2: bring in the other people and that's good, like, like

1409
00:52:11,283 --> 00:52:13,214
Speaker 2: the Scott and Kip episode. They'll bring I would

1410
00:52:13,214 --> 00:52:15,683
Speaker 1: feel really cheated. I know Bridgerton does it well, but

1411
00:52:15,684 --> 00:52:17,533
Speaker 1: it's kind of different because like they all end on

1412
00:52:17,533 --> 00:52:19,614
Speaker 1: this happy like, and now we're married, and now we're done.

1413
00:52:20,093 --> 00:52:22,093
Speaker 1: Whereas these guys, it's ending on, and now we have

1414
00:52:22,093 --> 00:52:24,724
Speaker 1: these all these huge other obstacles and we're finally openly

1415
00:52:24,724 --> 00:52:26,924
Speaker 1: in love. Like it wouldn't have felt like a satisfying

1416
00:52:26,924 --> 00:52:29,013
Speaker 1: ending if they had ended there and then the next

1417
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:31,013
Speaker 1: season was about a different character from the book series.

1418
00:52:31,563 --> 00:52:34,313
Speaker 1: No, I would not be having that. So season two,

1419
00:52:34,644 --> 00:52:36,484
Speaker 1: hopefully coming out at the end of this year.

1420
00:52:36,724 --> 00:52:42,043
Speaker 2: Hopefully they're looking at 2027, which devastates me. But, but

1421
00:52:42,043 --> 00:52:44,484
Speaker 2: you know what, I think the fan fever, the level

1422
00:52:44,484 --> 00:52:46,803
Speaker 2: of fame this has reached, the attention, like I think

1423
00:52:46,803 --> 00:52:50,003
Speaker 2: they're gonna hustle. They filmed the last one in 36 days. Exactly,

1424
00:52:50,124 --> 00:52:53,114
Speaker 1: now they've got way more money hopefully with all the

1425
00:52:53,114 --> 00:52:55,924
Speaker 1: international rights and everything, we'll get that ball rolling, but yeah,

1426
00:52:56,124 --> 00:52:58,724
Speaker 1: heated rivalry. What a what a joy. What a bloody

1427
00:52:58,724 --> 00:52:59,573
Speaker 1: show be the same.

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Speaker 2: The Spill.

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1443
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