1 00:00:10,254 --> 00:00:10,574 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,294 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma mea acknowledges 3 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,134 Speaker 2: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 4 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,894 Speaker 2: is recorded on. 5 00:00:21,694 --> 00:00:21,894 Speaker 1: Hi. 6 00:00:22,054 --> 00:00:25,534 Speaker 2: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily news podcast, 7 00:00:25,574 --> 00:00:29,294 Speaker 2: The Quickie. There's a trend that's happening on TikTok right 8 00:00:29,334 --> 00:00:32,174 Speaker 2: now which seems to be gaining momentum in twenty twenty 9 00:00:32,214 --> 00:00:34,494 Speaker 2: five as we continue to try and exist in a 10 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:37,534 Speaker 2: cost of living crisis. It's called under consumption. 11 00:00:37,694 --> 00:00:37,854 Speaker 1: Call. 12 00:00:38,054 --> 00:00:40,214 Speaker 2: I am a long time frugal girly. 13 00:00:40,334 --> 00:00:43,014 Speaker 1: I'm doing, you know, spend twenty twenty five and here's 14 00:00:43,134 --> 00:00:45,174 Speaker 1: everything that I'm going to be doing today. 15 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:48,494 Speaker 2: We are shopping intentionally, with many of us struggling with 16 00:00:48,534 --> 00:00:51,614 Speaker 2: either shopping habits that don't match our bank balances, trying 17 00:00:51,654 --> 00:00:53,414 Speaker 2: to make sure we pay the bills and take care 18 00:00:53,454 --> 00:00:56,814 Speaker 2: of ourselves, and having also fallen victim to addictive online 19 00:00:56,854 --> 00:01:00,254 Speaker 2: shopping halls. Is twenty twenty five about trying to take 20 00:01:00,294 --> 00:01:02,534 Speaker 2: back control of our money and do better by the 21 00:01:02,534 --> 00:01:05,014 Speaker 2: planet while we're at it. Before we get into the 22 00:01:05,054 --> 00:01:08,414 Speaker 2: tips and tricks to become an under consumption call girlly ourselves, 23 00:01:08,614 --> 00:01:11,334 Speaker 2: here's the latest from the Twikin news room, Friday, February seven. 24 00:01:11,734 --> 00:01:15,214 Speaker 2: Trump administration officials have attempted to walk back the President's 25 00:01:15,254 --> 00:01:17,934 Speaker 2: announcement that the US would take over the Gaza Strip 26 00:01:18,174 --> 00:01:22,574 Speaker 2: and encourage Palestinians to resettle somewhere else. The officials insisted 27 00:01:22,654 --> 00:01:25,814 Speaker 2: that President Trump has not committed to using US troops 28 00:01:25,854 --> 00:01:29,334 Speaker 2: to clear the territory, and that any relocation of Palestinians 29 00:01:29,334 --> 00:01:32,774 Speaker 2: would be a temporary measure. Mister Trump's proposal, which came 30 00:01:32,814 --> 00:01:35,654 Speaker 2: after a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Ettnyah, who 31 00:01:36,054 --> 00:01:38,974 Speaker 2: was met with immediate opposition from experts who called the 32 00:01:39,014 --> 00:01:42,254 Speaker 2: idea a breach of international law. Here in Australia, the 33 00:01:42,294 --> 00:01:45,534 Speaker 2: Palestinian Action Group will protest at Sydney Town Hall today, 34 00:01:45,854 --> 00:01:50,134 Speaker 2: calling out both Australia's politicians and media, targeting Opposition leader 35 00:01:50,174 --> 00:01:53,214 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, who yesterday described Donald Trump as a big 36 00:01:53,254 --> 00:01:56,654 Speaker 2: thinker and deal maker, before later clarifying that he does 37 00:01:56,734 --> 00:02:00,454 Speaker 2: still support a two state solution in Gaza. Matilda's captain 38 00:02:00,494 --> 00:02:03,774 Speaker 2: Sam Kerr has denied using whiteness as an insult after 39 00:02:03,854 --> 00:02:06,454 Speaker 2: she was arrested on a night out in London, calling 40 00:02:06,454 --> 00:02:10,374 Speaker 2: a police officer stupid and white. Kerr is with causing 41 00:02:10,454 --> 00:02:14,014 Speaker 2: racially aggravated harassment over the name calling when a taxi 42 00:02:14,054 --> 00:02:16,934 Speaker 2: driver took her and her partner, Christie Muse to twicken 43 00:02:16,974 --> 00:02:19,934 Speaker 2: and police station for refusing to pay the cleanup cost 44 00:02:20,054 --> 00:02:22,814 Speaker 2: after throwing up and then smashing a back window to 45 00:02:22,814 --> 00:02:25,614 Speaker 2: get out. In court yesterday, Kerr was asked if she 46 00:02:25,654 --> 00:02:28,374 Speaker 2: was using the officer's whiteness as an insult, and she 47 00:02:28,534 --> 00:02:31,414 Speaker 2: responded no, that's not what she meant, but that she 48 00:02:31,494 --> 00:02:34,334 Speaker 2: believed the officer was using his power and privilege over 49 00:02:34,374 --> 00:02:37,694 Speaker 2: her because he was accusing her of being something she wasn't. 50 00:02:38,014 --> 00:02:40,174 Speaker 2: She says she was trying to express that due to 51 00:02:40,214 --> 00:02:43,054 Speaker 2: that power and privilege, he would never understand what she 52 00:02:43,134 --> 00:02:46,014 Speaker 2: and Mules had gone through fearing they'd been kidnapped by 53 00:02:46,054 --> 00:02:49,574 Speaker 2: the taxi driver. Kerr also claims the officer arrested her 54 00:02:49,614 --> 00:02:51,974 Speaker 2: for criminal damage due to the color of her skin, 55 00:02:52,374 --> 00:02:55,094 Speaker 2: accusing her of lying about what had happened, even though 56 00:02:55,174 --> 00:02:57,774 Speaker 2: Christie had said it was just her who had smashed 57 00:02:57,774 --> 00:03:00,694 Speaker 2: the window. Kerr said her perception was shaped by how 58 00:03:00,734 --> 00:03:03,854 Speaker 2: the officers were treating her differently to her partner. A 59 00:03:03,934 --> 00:03:07,174 Speaker 2: New Zealand woman has filed three civil lawsuits against best 60 00:03:07,174 --> 00:03:10,014 Speaker 2: selling British author Neil Gaiman, the man behind net Flix's 61 00:03:10,054 --> 00:03:13,254 Speaker 2: The Sandman series, and his wife, accusing the writer of 62 00:03:13,294 --> 00:03:16,014 Speaker 2: sexual assault and his wife for knowing he'd done it before. 63 00:03:16,454 --> 00:03:19,254 Speaker 2: Scarlet Pavlovitch claimed she was homeless and living on a 64 00:03:19,254 --> 00:03:21,934 Speaker 2: beach when she met Gaymon's wife, Amanda Palmer in twenty 65 00:03:21,974 --> 00:03:24,974 Speaker 2: twenty in New Zealand. She started to run errands for 66 00:03:25,014 --> 00:03:27,854 Speaker 2: her and take care of her son, eventually becoming the nanny. 67 00:03:28,094 --> 00:03:31,094 Speaker 2: Pavlovitch claims Geyman assaulted her the first night they met, 68 00:03:31,134 --> 00:03:34,254 Speaker 2: in February twenty twenty two, and that the assaults continued, 69 00:03:34,294 --> 00:03:37,134 Speaker 2: but she kept working for them because Gaiman had promised 70 00:03:37,134 --> 00:03:39,654 Speaker 2: to help with her writing career, and without the job, 71 00:03:39,694 --> 00:03:43,574 Speaker 2: she would again become homeless. Pavlovitch also filed lawsuits against 72 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:46,534 Speaker 2: Amanda Palmer, claiming that when she told her about the assaults, 73 00:03:46,814 --> 00:03:49,374 Speaker 2: Palmer told her that her husband had been accused by 74 00:03:49,374 --> 00:03:52,334 Speaker 2: others of the same thing. Gaiman released a statement after 75 00:03:52,334 --> 00:03:55,534 Speaker 2: the allegations went public in New York Magazine, denying he's 76 00:03:55,614 --> 00:04:00,254 Speaker 2: ever engaged in non consensual sex. Actress turned talk show 77 00:04:00,254 --> 00:04:03,534 Speaker 2: host Drew Barrymore has admitted she can't control herself, even 78 00:04:03,534 --> 00:04:05,654 Speaker 2: though she's been told to stop getting so close and 79 00:04:05,734 --> 00:04:08,534 Speaker 2: touchy feely with her guests. The forty nine year old 80 00:04:08,574 --> 00:04:10,854 Speaker 2: is known for leaning in close while in conversation with 81 00:04:10,894 --> 00:04:13,774 Speaker 2: her guests, saying she's tried to stop it after getting 82 00:04:13,774 --> 00:04:17,014 Speaker 2: awful feedback during focus groups who didn't like her invading others' 83 00:04:17,054 --> 00:04:20,294 Speaker 2: personal space. But Barrymore says she's tried to make herself 84 00:04:20,334 --> 00:04:24,254 Speaker 2: stop unsuccessfully, although she will try and practice physical distancing 85 00:04:24,334 --> 00:04:27,494 Speaker 2: this year. Barrymore went viral late last year after eclip 86 00:04:27,574 --> 00:04:30,614 Speaker 2: did the rounds of Martha Stewart playfully pushing Barrymore away 87 00:04:30,614 --> 00:04:33,774 Speaker 2: from her during their interview, but Barrymore insists that Stuart 88 00:04:33,774 --> 00:04:36,254 Speaker 2: does actually like her and she was just mucking around. 89 00:04:36,454 --> 00:04:38,934 Speaker 2: That's what's happening in the world today. Next is under 90 00:04:38,974 --> 00:04:42,854 Speaker 2: consumption core about to become your whole personality in twenty 91 00:04:42,894 --> 00:04:51,254 Speaker 2: twenty five. The under consumption core movement is gaining significant 92 00:04:51,294 --> 00:04:54,614 Speaker 2: traction as we move through twenty twenty five, particularly amongst 93 00:04:54,654 --> 00:04:58,014 Speaker 2: younger generations who are embracing a more mindful approach to 94 00:04:58,054 --> 00:05:02,094 Speaker 2: spending and consumption. Now, this trend represents a dramatic shift 95 00:05:02,134 --> 00:05:05,934 Speaker 2: away from the excessive consumption culture that's dominated social media 96 00:05:05,974 --> 00:05:09,334 Speaker 2: of late, with people now proudly showcasing their frugal lifestyle, 97 00:05:09,374 --> 00:05:12,574 Speaker 2: ture choices and practical purchases over their shopping halls. 98 00:05:15,854 --> 00:05:16,934 Speaker 1: Back to school hall. 99 00:05:17,294 --> 00:05:19,614 Speaker 2: Look what I just picked up from the post office. 100 00:05:19,814 --> 00:05:21,054 Speaker 1: This is embarrassing. 101 00:05:21,534 --> 00:05:24,694 Speaker 2: I do not get one, but two boxes from machine. 102 00:05:24,814 --> 00:05:25,934 Speaker 1: So let's to achinehole. 103 00:05:28,014 --> 00:05:30,774 Speaker 2: What started as a TikTok trend has evolved into a 104 00:05:30,814 --> 00:05:34,214 Speaker 2: broader social movement, driven by a combination of economic pressures 105 00:05:34,214 --> 00:05:39,574 Speaker 2: and environmental consciousness. Young consumers, particularly GenZ and younger millennials, 106 00:05:39,614 --> 00:05:43,414 Speaker 2: are leading the charge, with many making significant lifestyle adjustments 107 00:05:43,454 --> 00:05:46,814 Speaker 2: in response to rising living costs. But rather than viewing 108 00:05:46,894 --> 00:05:50,934 Speaker 2: frugality as some kind of limitation, supporters of under consumption 109 00:05:51,054 --> 00:05:54,134 Speaker 2: core are reframing it as an empowering choice that leads 110 00:05:54,134 --> 00:05:58,814 Speaker 2: to greater financial freedom and personal satisfaction. Taylor Staro joins 111 00:05:58,814 --> 00:06:00,574 Speaker 2: me today to discuss some of the ways we can 112 00:06:00,614 --> 00:06:03,934 Speaker 2: embrace under consumption core in twenty twenty five, Taylor, would 113 00:06:03,934 --> 00:06:07,054 Speaker 2: you consider yourself a weapon of mass consumption or would 114 00:06:07,054 --> 00:06:09,294 Speaker 2: you say you're more of the frugal vibe? 115 00:06:09,854 --> 00:06:12,534 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle of that scale. 116 00:06:12,574 --> 00:06:15,494 Speaker 1: I by no means have the financial backing to be 117 00:06:15,534 --> 00:06:18,334 Speaker 1: a mass consumer, but I also don't think that I'm 118 00:06:18,414 --> 00:06:20,814 Speaker 1: quite there yet, Slash. It's a bit of a journey 119 00:06:20,894 --> 00:06:24,334 Speaker 1: to this under consumption trend that we're finding. 120 00:06:24,774 --> 00:06:28,734 Speaker 2: I would put myself in the binge shopping department. Yeah, 121 00:06:28,814 --> 00:06:32,894 Speaker 2: so I abstain from shopping for quite long periods of time, 122 00:06:33,214 --> 00:06:36,374 Speaker 2: and then I'll just go on a splurge and buy 123 00:06:36,494 --> 00:06:38,974 Speaker 2: ridiculous things. Actually, the other day I was in the 124 00:06:39,014 --> 00:06:40,774 Speaker 2: shops and I was just kind of wandering because it's 125 00:06:40,814 --> 00:06:43,014 Speaker 2: also a bit of a pastime for me to kind 126 00:06:43,014 --> 00:06:45,494 Speaker 2: of switch my brain off and no longer focus in 127 00:06:45,534 --> 00:06:47,574 Speaker 2: on news and current affairs. Is that I just wander 128 00:06:47,614 --> 00:06:49,374 Speaker 2: the aisles of the shops. Is a bit of meditation, 129 00:06:49,894 --> 00:06:52,334 Speaker 2: and I find myself picking up things, like especially articles 130 00:06:52,334 --> 00:06:55,334 Speaker 2: of clothing that I essentially already own or like a 131 00:06:55,414 --> 00:06:57,534 Speaker 2: very similar version of it, and I have to talk 132 00:06:57,534 --> 00:06:59,214 Speaker 2: myself into not purchasing it. 133 00:06:59,654 --> 00:07:01,174 Speaker 1: Well, you know what you need to do, then, Claire. 134 00:07:01,174 --> 00:07:05,054 Speaker 1: As part of under consumption core is this growing movement 135 00:07:05,254 --> 00:07:08,854 Speaker 1: of shopping in your wardrobe, shopping what you already own. 136 00:07:09,534 --> 00:07:11,694 Speaker 1: It's not a new concept. We all know that many 137 00:07:11,694 --> 00:07:14,934 Speaker 1: of us will accumulate many pieces of clothing that we think, oh, 138 00:07:14,974 --> 00:07:17,654 Speaker 1: I'm totally gonna wear that, or I've bought it, and 139 00:07:17,694 --> 00:07:19,214 Speaker 1: it sort of sits in the back of the cupboard 140 00:07:19,254 --> 00:07:22,014 Speaker 1: for however long it may be. There's something really nice 141 00:07:22,014 --> 00:07:24,374 Speaker 1: about shopping in your own wardrobe, though, so it is 142 00:07:24,694 --> 00:07:28,574 Speaker 1: very intentional, the practice of opening the wardrobe going oh, 143 00:07:28,574 --> 00:07:30,534 Speaker 1: I haven't worn that for a while, or let me 144 00:07:30,574 --> 00:07:32,734 Speaker 1: grab this one piece out and see if I can 145 00:07:32,814 --> 00:07:35,214 Speaker 1: style around it, and it might be something as basic 146 00:07:35,334 --> 00:07:39,334 Speaker 1: as a really nice, expensive black jumper that you bought. 147 00:07:39,334 --> 00:07:41,134 Speaker 1: I know that it's probably not quite the right time 148 00:07:41,174 --> 00:07:43,654 Speaker 1: to talk about a jumper in the middle of summer. However, 149 00:07:43,934 --> 00:07:46,814 Speaker 1: the season will return in not too long of a time, 150 00:07:47,214 --> 00:07:49,414 Speaker 1: and so if we can start thinking now about, actually, 151 00:07:49,414 --> 00:07:51,614 Speaker 1: what do I have to shop in my own wardrobe, 152 00:07:51,934 --> 00:07:54,414 Speaker 1: and then from there go out and intentionally purchase things 153 00:07:54,494 --> 00:07:57,134 Speaker 1: just the missing piece, that's as opposed to buying yet 154 00:07:57,174 --> 00:07:58,454 Speaker 1: another black jumper. 155 00:07:58,854 --> 00:08:02,814 Speaker 2: There's also something in not shopping your wardrobe but selling 156 00:08:02,814 --> 00:08:05,974 Speaker 2: your wardrobe too, because we often have bits and pieces 157 00:08:05,974 --> 00:08:08,654 Speaker 2: in there that we claim will wear again one day, 158 00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:10,934 Speaker 2: and they never will but the problem I find with 159 00:08:11,014 --> 00:08:14,294 Speaker 2: that is feels like selling clothes is such hard work 160 00:08:14,374 --> 00:08:17,494 Speaker 2: and just mental load that I don't need. What are 161 00:08:17,494 --> 00:08:19,374 Speaker 2: you going to do it? On Facebook? Marketplace? And then 162 00:08:19,374 --> 00:08:21,974 Speaker 2: you end up with ten thousand scammers in your inbox 163 00:08:22,134 --> 00:08:26,134 Speaker 2: and then you've got to coordinate postage or someone picking 164 00:08:26,134 --> 00:08:28,294 Speaker 2: them up like it feels like a lot of work. 165 00:08:28,334 --> 00:08:30,134 Speaker 2: Do you sell clothes like that at all? And there 166 00:08:30,134 --> 00:08:30,814 Speaker 2: are other stores that. 167 00:08:30,854 --> 00:08:32,694 Speaker 1: Kind of do that for you too, Yes, there are 168 00:08:32,734 --> 00:08:36,014 Speaker 1: definitely resell surfaces that exist out there. I personally don't 169 00:08:36,054 --> 00:08:38,174 Speaker 1: sell any of my clothes because I don't think anything 170 00:08:38,174 --> 00:08:41,294 Speaker 1: that I have is necessarily of any extra value to anybody. 171 00:08:41,334 --> 00:08:44,094 Speaker 1: I'm not a designer shopper, so I don't really fit 172 00:08:44,134 --> 00:08:47,734 Speaker 1: to that category. But may I suggest there is nothing 173 00:08:47,774 --> 00:08:50,614 Speaker 1: more satisfying, Claire, and maybe this says a bit more 174 00:08:50,654 --> 00:08:53,614 Speaker 1: about me than anything else then dumping out your wardrobe, 175 00:08:53,734 --> 00:08:57,654 Speaker 1: organizing the piles of keep, toss, whatever, and the liberation 176 00:08:57,814 --> 00:08:59,814 Speaker 1: that I have felt when dropping off a nice, big 177 00:08:59,854 --> 00:09:02,774 Speaker 1: donation bag of clothes to one of the charity bins, 178 00:09:03,214 --> 00:09:05,214 Speaker 1: because it's out of sight, out of mind. At that point, 179 00:09:05,254 --> 00:09:07,254 Speaker 1: it's out of my wardrobe. I don't need to worry 180 00:09:07,254 --> 00:09:10,454 Speaker 1: about it. I've cleared some stuff and I've also saved 181 00:09:10,454 --> 00:09:13,414 Speaker 1: it probably potentially from landfill and given it to somebody 182 00:09:13,414 --> 00:09:14,654 Speaker 1: else for a second life. 183 00:09:15,174 --> 00:09:17,614 Speaker 2: Actually, I've just remembered, and she's probably gonna kill me 184 00:09:17,654 --> 00:09:19,654 Speaker 2: if she listens to this. My friend Meil owns a 185 00:09:19,654 --> 00:09:23,254 Speaker 2: store that resells secondhand clothing. So you hire a rack 186 00:09:23,454 --> 00:09:25,454 Speaker 2: in the store and then you populate it with the 187 00:09:25,454 --> 00:09:26,894 Speaker 2: clothes that you want to sell, and then she takes 188 00:09:26,934 --> 00:09:28,734 Speaker 2: care of all the business. It's in the main street 189 00:09:28,734 --> 00:09:30,734 Speaker 2: of Sterling. Can't think of the name of it right now. 190 00:09:30,774 --> 00:09:32,894 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, Welle Sterling in the Odelaide Hills. That 191 00:09:33,014 --> 00:09:35,934 Speaker 2: is all right, Moving on, Let's talk about some other 192 00:09:35,934 --> 00:09:39,174 Speaker 2: ways that we can embrace under consumption core. And this 193 00:09:39,214 --> 00:09:42,854 Speaker 2: is something that I think a lot of us fall into, 194 00:09:43,494 --> 00:09:46,134 Speaker 2: Like it's a really specific trap of twenty twenty five 195 00:09:46,174 --> 00:09:50,014 Speaker 2: in recent years is the subscription management. Because we are 196 00:09:50,054 --> 00:09:53,814 Speaker 2: subscribed to so many different streaming platforms and other various 197 00:09:53,854 --> 00:09:56,934 Speaker 2: services that we really need to think a bit more 198 00:09:57,014 --> 00:10:01,414 Speaker 2: about how to bring down that experience. Like you and I, 199 00:10:01,694 --> 00:10:04,054 Speaker 2: because we work in the media, it's also tax deductible, 200 00:10:04,094 --> 00:10:07,134 Speaker 2: but we require access to a lot of those things 201 00:10:07,174 --> 00:10:09,894 Speaker 2: just for our own research purposes. But some of us 202 00:10:09,894 --> 00:10:11,854 Speaker 2: have subscriptions that we barely use, and you really need 203 00:10:11,894 --> 00:10:13,094 Speaker 2: to get a hold on that, right. 204 00:10:13,334 --> 00:10:15,254 Speaker 1: You, totally do. I know that there are a lot 205 00:10:15,294 --> 00:10:17,374 Speaker 1: of companies that have started to crack down on the sharing. 206 00:10:17,654 --> 00:10:19,854 Speaker 1: But if there is a way that you can ethically 207 00:10:19,894 --> 00:10:21,294 Speaker 1: do that, and I don't know what it is, I'm 208 00:10:21,334 --> 00:10:23,894 Speaker 1: not purporting to be the Holy than now when it 209 00:10:23,934 --> 00:10:26,894 Speaker 1: comes to streaming services, if there's a way to do that, 210 00:10:26,934 --> 00:10:30,014 Speaker 1: I would totally recommend otherwise shop around or maybe drop 211 00:10:30,054 --> 00:10:32,814 Speaker 1: off a subscription until you've finish watching a series on 212 00:10:32,814 --> 00:10:35,294 Speaker 1: one particular platform, and then hop over to another one 213 00:10:35,334 --> 00:10:37,134 Speaker 1: and swap them in and out every couple of months 214 00:10:37,214 --> 00:10:38,134 Speaker 1: so you don't get bored. 215 00:10:38,374 --> 00:10:41,054 Speaker 2: Also to double up sometimes, and I've seen this of late, 216 00:10:41,054 --> 00:10:42,614 Speaker 2: and we did it ourselves when we signed up with 217 00:10:42,654 --> 00:10:45,454 Speaker 2: a particular energy company. They gave us a yearly subscription 218 00:10:45,534 --> 00:10:48,334 Speaker 2: to Amazon for free. And then I noticed that my 219 00:10:48,454 --> 00:10:52,214 Speaker 2: telco is also offering a yearly subscription to a streaming 220 00:10:52,254 --> 00:10:54,134 Speaker 2: service as well if you sign up with them. So 221 00:10:54,174 --> 00:10:56,094 Speaker 2: there's deals to be had too. You just go to 222 00:10:56,134 --> 00:10:58,814 Speaker 2: do a little bit of hunting around. Yeah, let's go 223 00:10:58,894 --> 00:11:02,334 Speaker 2: to the grocery store. How do we get our under 224 00:11:02,334 --> 00:11:04,894 Speaker 2: consumption core on when we're in the fruit and beagile, 225 00:11:04,974 --> 00:11:05,814 Speaker 2: for example, with. 226 00:11:05,774 --> 00:11:08,094 Speaker 1: A lot of consumption core, it does require a little 227 00:11:08,094 --> 00:11:10,454 Speaker 1: bit of pre planning on our own half, right, So 228 00:11:10,974 --> 00:11:13,974 Speaker 1: going into a grocery store what's in season? Shopping things 229 00:11:14,054 --> 00:11:16,654 Speaker 1: that are on sale? Obviously they're the easy tips if 230 00:11:16,694 --> 00:11:18,374 Speaker 1: you don't know that because not all of us are 231 00:11:18,414 --> 00:11:20,094 Speaker 1: a green thumb, not all of us seem to keep 232 00:11:20,094 --> 00:11:23,374 Speaker 1: in touch with the agricultural trends of the country fair enough, 233 00:11:23,574 --> 00:11:27,894 Speaker 1: things like AI your best bet. I frequently put into AI, Hey, 234 00:11:28,454 --> 00:11:31,974 Speaker 1: what's in season? I live here. It'll shoot back to 235 00:11:31,974 --> 00:11:33,934 Speaker 1: me what will be in season, which most likely will 236 00:11:33,934 --> 00:11:36,254 Speaker 1: be what is then on sale at the grocery store 237 00:11:36,414 --> 00:11:39,174 Speaker 1: because there is a vast majority of it taking up 238 00:11:39,174 --> 00:11:41,894 Speaker 1: the shelves. And from there it's like, cool, suggest to 239 00:11:41,934 --> 00:11:45,254 Speaker 1: me four recipes using these key ingredients. Or on the 240 00:11:45,294 --> 00:11:47,134 Speaker 1: other foot, it's like, I have lots and lots of 241 00:11:47,174 --> 00:11:49,574 Speaker 1: pasta at my house at the moment. Instead of buying 242 00:11:49,614 --> 00:11:52,414 Speaker 1: another packet because I'll probably use it eventually, let's use 243 00:11:52,454 --> 00:11:54,214 Speaker 1: that what I've already got. I don't know about you, Claire, 244 00:11:54,254 --> 00:11:57,174 Speaker 1: but I write out the meal plan of the week. 245 00:11:57,254 --> 00:11:58,854 Speaker 1: I don't meal prep, but I write out what we're 246 00:11:58,854 --> 00:12:01,134 Speaker 1: going to have for dinner every night of our week. 247 00:12:01,374 --> 00:12:04,294 Speaker 1: And a lot of that is starting with actually what's 248 00:12:04,294 --> 00:12:06,214 Speaker 1: in the freezer and what can I make out of that? 249 00:12:06,294 --> 00:12:09,214 Speaker 2: To begin with, Yeah, this is not a great area 250 00:12:09,294 --> 00:12:12,854 Speaker 2: for me for under consumption because I'm not a weekly planner. 251 00:12:13,014 --> 00:12:14,694 Speaker 2: I'm a go to the grocery store and grab what 252 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,134 Speaker 2: I need when I need a kind of gal. But 253 00:12:16,814 --> 00:12:19,294 Speaker 2: I understand that planning that better. And in fact, we 254 00:12:19,374 --> 00:12:22,614 Speaker 2: talked about this with Analyse from This Glorious Mass on 255 00:12:22,614 --> 00:12:25,094 Speaker 2: a recent episode of The Quickie about using services like 256 00:12:25,174 --> 00:12:29,934 Speaker 2: chat GPT to create weekly recipes and shopping lists, and 257 00:12:30,094 --> 00:12:34,814 Speaker 2: it will also search for specials, which is something another 258 00:12:34,854 --> 00:12:38,454 Speaker 2: colleague of ours does is she does her shopping online 259 00:12:38,814 --> 00:12:42,494 Speaker 2: and she shops from the specials only section. Okay, can 260 00:12:42,494 --> 00:12:45,614 Speaker 2: we talk about entertainment because we're used to like going 261 00:12:45,614 --> 00:12:48,854 Speaker 2: out for dinner or going out for drinks, which costs money. 262 00:12:48,974 --> 00:12:50,574 Speaker 2: But there's got to be plenty of ways that we 263 00:12:50,614 --> 00:12:53,574 Speaker 2: can start. Doesn't mean ditching it all together, but maybe 264 00:12:53,614 --> 00:12:55,734 Speaker 2: pairing that back so that we do something that doesn't 265 00:12:55,734 --> 00:12:56,454 Speaker 2: cost anything. 266 00:12:56,854 --> 00:12:59,894 Speaker 1: Yeah, So linking back to food a little bit, is 267 00:12:59,974 --> 00:13:02,214 Speaker 1: the rise of the dinner party, or the resurgence i 268 00:13:02,214 --> 00:13:04,334 Speaker 1: should say of the dinner party has really become a 269 00:13:04,374 --> 00:13:05,934 Speaker 1: big thing in the last twelve months. A lot of 270 00:13:05,974 --> 00:13:09,414 Speaker 1: younger people particularly are really embracing the idea of instead 271 00:13:09,414 --> 00:13:11,534 Speaker 1: of going out for a really nice meal every week, 272 00:13:11,614 --> 00:13:13,974 Speaker 1: maybe every other week, we host it in a party 273 00:13:14,014 --> 00:13:15,694 Speaker 1: at home and we theme it to make it a 274 00:13:15,694 --> 00:13:17,974 Speaker 1: bit fun. Or it's that thing of we're doing a 275 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:20,214 Speaker 1: pot luck. Everybody has to bring a meal, and it 276 00:13:20,294 --> 00:13:22,494 Speaker 1: might be themed, it might just be what can you 277 00:13:22,534 --> 00:13:25,334 Speaker 1: cook this week? Other things as well, we're seeing people 278 00:13:25,374 --> 00:13:28,014 Speaker 1: back in the park. I see so many people in 279 00:13:28,014 --> 00:13:30,814 Speaker 1: the park every weekend for barbecues and catch ups and 280 00:13:30,854 --> 00:13:33,654 Speaker 1: playing sport and all those kinds of things. Depending on 281 00:13:33,694 --> 00:13:35,614 Speaker 1: where you live, hopefully it's really nice and you've got 282 00:13:35,614 --> 00:13:38,454 Speaker 1: some beautiful places to walk around. That's how I'm getting 283 00:13:38,454 --> 00:13:40,734 Speaker 1: my kick these days. And they don't cost your dime 284 00:13:40,974 --> 00:13:41,854 Speaker 1: for the most part. 285 00:13:42,014 --> 00:13:44,934 Speaker 2: Also, you know what's really good is like going out, 286 00:13:44,934 --> 00:13:47,374 Speaker 2: take yourself, your friend, your kids for a bike ride. 287 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:50,174 Speaker 2: Like if you have bikes sitting in the shed, utilize 288 00:13:50,214 --> 00:13:52,534 Speaker 2: them because you're just getting out getting ads. Good for 289 00:13:52,574 --> 00:13:54,854 Speaker 2: your mental health, good for your physical health. Go and 290 00:13:54,894 --> 00:13:56,614 Speaker 2: do something active, go for a swim at the beach 291 00:13:56,694 --> 00:13:58,454 Speaker 2: or something if you can find a car park. This 292 00:13:58,534 --> 00:14:01,454 Speaker 2: is for those who live in Sydney and surrounds. Good 293 00:14:01,534 --> 00:14:04,014 Speaker 2: luck to you. But there's plenty of stuff you can 294 00:14:04,094 --> 00:14:05,974 Speaker 2: do out in nature too. Go for a hike, do 295 00:14:06,094 --> 00:14:08,534 Speaker 2: something fun out in nature. Can I give you a 296 00:14:08,534 --> 00:14:11,014 Speaker 2: tip that someone just gave to me literally yesterday. 297 00:14:11,294 --> 00:14:11,734 Speaker 1: Yeah. 298 00:14:11,934 --> 00:14:15,934 Speaker 2: Two things. One is limit yourself to online shopping only 299 00:14:15,974 --> 00:14:17,774 Speaker 2: one day of the week. And it can't be a Friday, 300 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:20,774 Speaker 2: Saturday or Sunday. Ooh, so it can only be like 301 00:14:21,214 --> 00:14:22,934 Speaker 2: in that part of the week where you tend to 302 00:14:22,934 --> 00:14:25,054 Speaker 2: be a bit busier and you're not just mindlessly scrolling 303 00:14:25,054 --> 00:14:28,974 Speaker 2: through shopping sites. And you can only pick one day 304 00:14:29,134 --> 00:14:32,134 Speaker 2: and that day only and put things in your cart, 305 00:14:32,614 --> 00:14:35,294 Speaker 2: leave them there, and then revisit it the week after 306 00:14:35,334 --> 00:14:37,214 Speaker 2: on that same day to see if you still want it. 307 00:14:37,614 --> 00:14:40,294 Speaker 1: I love that, and there's another benefit to doing that. 308 00:14:40,334 --> 00:14:42,694 Speaker 1: Clear if you're logged into a website you've left something 309 00:14:42,774 --> 00:14:45,574 Speaker 1: in your cart, it's pretty likely that, depending on where 310 00:14:45,574 --> 00:14:48,294 Speaker 1: you're shopping, they will email you and say, hey, you 311 00:14:48,374 --> 00:14:50,894 Speaker 1: left this in your cart. Here's another ten percent off 312 00:14:50,894 --> 00:14:53,134 Speaker 1: to sweeten the deal. Just go on and buy it. Yep. 313 00:14:53,214 --> 00:14:56,334 Speaker 2: Also another thing to stop following influencers who are constantly 314 00:14:56,654 --> 00:14:57,134 Speaker 2: urging you to. 315 00:14:57,094 --> 00:14:58,174 Speaker 1: Buy things one hundred percent. 316 00:14:58,374 --> 00:15:01,134 Speaker 2: And I've found Instagram in particular is terrible for me. 317 00:15:01,254 --> 00:15:05,894 Speaker 2: For this is the suggested posts and the shopping experiences 318 00:15:05,894 --> 00:15:08,454 Speaker 2: that Instagram. It always looks so shiny and always looks 319 00:15:08,454 --> 00:15:11,014 Speaker 2: so amazing. Some times out of ten it's very scamy. 320 00:15:11,254 --> 00:15:14,414 Speaker 2: So just try and stop following those things and push 321 00:15:14,454 --> 00:15:18,414 Speaker 2: your algorithm out of online shopping. Can we talk about DIY, 322 00:15:19,814 --> 00:15:22,054 Speaker 2: Yes we can. Not all of us are blessed with 323 00:15:22,094 --> 00:15:25,374 Speaker 2: the DIY gene. But something that my nephew spoke to 324 00:15:25,374 --> 00:15:27,534 Speaker 2: me aback is my nephew is a mechanic, and he 325 00:15:27,614 --> 00:15:30,094 Speaker 2: said to me, there are some really basic things that 326 00:15:30,134 --> 00:15:32,814 Speaker 2: you can do to learn how to maintain your vehicle 327 00:15:33,494 --> 00:15:35,734 Speaker 2: so that it doesn't cost you ten times more by 328 00:15:35,734 --> 00:15:39,054 Speaker 2: the time you get to your servicing. But also it 329 00:15:39,214 --> 00:15:42,174 Speaker 2: means that you are taking care of a really valuable asset. 330 00:15:42,374 --> 00:15:45,534 Speaker 2: So lots of little things to do, checking fluid levels, 331 00:15:45,654 --> 00:15:48,134 Speaker 2: and there are certain tire places where you can go 332 00:15:48,174 --> 00:15:50,214 Speaker 2: where they'll do a free tire check to make sure 333 00:15:50,214 --> 00:15:52,254 Speaker 2: that you know you're safe and good on the road 334 00:15:52,254 --> 00:15:54,134 Speaker 2: before you need new tires, so you don't then go 335 00:15:54,174 --> 00:15:56,374 Speaker 2: and do more damage and end up having to pay 336 00:15:56,414 --> 00:15:59,334 Speaker 2: more money. So, like, just taking care of what you've 337 00:15:59,374 --> 00:16:02,174 Speaker 2: got is actually really important, and that includes like when 338 00:16:02,174 --> 00:16:04,654 Speaker 2: you buy clothes or you buy shoes. If you buy 339 00:16:04,694 --> 00:16:07,894 Speaker 2: good quality and less of if you take care of it, 340 00:16:07,894 --> 00:16:09,454 Speaker 2: it will cost you less in the long run. 341 00:16:09,854 --> 00:16:12,814 Speaker 1: One of the big key parts of being conscious of 342 00:16:12,854 --> 00:16:15,534 Speaker 1: what you're consuming throughout a year is also so then 343 00:16:15,614 --> 00:16:18,374 Speaker 1: it's your responsibility to take care of those bigger ticket 344 00:16:18,414 --> 00:16:21,534 Speaker 1: items like if you have a car, or an expensive laptop, 345 00:16:21,774 --> 00:16:24,294 Speaker 1: or really nice clothes or just whatever clothes you've got 346 00:16:24,294 --> 00:16:25,214 Speaker 1: in your cupboard. 347 00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:28,134 Speaker 2: Okay, just finally, can you explain to me what Project 348 00:16:28,134 --> 00:16:28,534 Speaker 2: PAN is. 349 00:16:29,094 --> 00:16:30,934 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's how this whole episode of the quickie 350 00:16:30,974 --> 00:16:32,774 Speaker 1: came about. I came to Claire and I said, we 351 00:16:32,854 --> 00:16:35,054 Speaker 1: have to talk about Project Pan. It's the only thing 352 00:16:35,094 --> 00:16:38,094 Speaker 1: on my TikTok feed all the girls have swung in 353 00:16:38,094 --> 00:16:40,094 Speaker 1: the beauty community so far from one end of the 354 00:16:40,094 --> 00:16:44,054 Speaker 1: pendulum to the other. Claire, you don't strike me necessarily 355 00:16:44,094 --> 00:16:46,454 Speaker 1: as somebody who would sit there in the twenty tens 356 00:16:46,494 --> 00:16:49,534 Speaker 1: and was obsessed with watching beauty gurus on YouTube. 357 00:16:49,654 --> 00:16:50,854 Speaker 2: Just wasn't my jam. 358 00:16:50,974 --> 00:16:53,294 Speaker 1: I do. I appreciate a good artist, but it's yeah, 359 00:16:53,334 --> 00:16:55,254 Speaker 1: it's not really my thang. So I'm one of those 360 00:16:55,294 --> 00:16:57,934 Speaker 1: people that during that time I was obsessed. I would 361 00:16:57,934 --> 00:17:03,094 Speaker 1: watch people just unbox piles and piles and piles of 362 00:17:03,134 --> 00:17:05,294 Speaker 1: makeup and beauty, and eventually it would trickle down and 363 00:17:05,294 --> 00:17:08,414 Speaker 1: I would want to buy everything very much. Over consumption 364 00:17:08,614 --> 00:17:11,814 Speaker 1: core has swung so far in the other direction now 365 00:17:11,854 --> 00:17:14,654 Speaker 1: that while we're maybe not seeing them, giant beauty creators 366 00:17:14,734 --> 00:17:17,414 Speaker 1: do this. A lot of just everyday folks on the 367 00:17:17,454 --> 00:17:20,414 Speaker 1: Internet are for taking in something called Project Pan as 368 00:17:20,454 --> 00:17:22,854 Speaker 1: part of under consumption call it is this idea that 369 00:17:22,894 --> 00:17:26,174 Speaker 1: you have makeup, you probably have way more than you need, Claire. 370 00:17:26,214 --> 00:17:28,134 Speaker 1: I'm sure if we went into your bathroom cabinet there 371 00:17:28,134 --> 00:17:29,654 Speaker 1: would be some things in there where it's like. 372 00:17:29,614 --> 00:17:32,574 Speaker 2: Oh, I have five body lotions, too many serums. 373 00:17:32,854 --> 00:17:36,374 Speaker 1: Yes, So the idea of Project pan is to bloody 374 00:17:36,494 --> 00:17:38,454 Speaker 1: use them up, but use them up in a not 375 00:17:38,654 --> 00:17:41,734 Speaker 1: overwhelming way. So we're shopping our stash to take from 376 00:17:41,774 --> 00:17:45,094 Speaker 1: your beauty. We grab like a little box or a 377 00:17:45,134 --> 00:17:48,694 Speaker 1: container or just set out on your bathroom counter a routine. 378 00:17:48,934 --> 00:17:51,894 Speaker 1: And that means if you have ten blushes, you take one, 379 00:17:52,134 --> 00:17:54,694 Speaker 1: and you have six foundations, you pick one and they 380 00:17:54,814 --> 00:17:58,254 Speaker 1: become your project Pan kitty. If you will, you use 381 00:17:58,294 --> 00:18:00,534 Speaker 1: everything in your project Pan, and when you use it up, 382 00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:04,054 Speaker 1: amazing celebration party. Everyone's a winner because we used up 383 00:18:04,054 --> 00:18:06,694 Speaker 1: our blush. If you've ever had a blush, you know 384 00:18:06,814 --> 00:18:08,934 Speaker 1: that they sometimes take a really long time to use up. 385 00:18:09,014 --> 00:18:10,414 Speaker 2: For me, it's like a decade. I don't know if 386 00:18:10,414 --> 00:18:12,734 Speaker 2: I should still be using it by that stage, but anyway. 387 00:18:12,454 --> 00:18:15,254 Speaker 1: We should probably check the expiration data. But then what 388 00:18:15,374 --> 00:18:17,454 Speaker 1: happens is it's like great, I don't even need to 389 00:18:17,494 --> 00:18:19,574 Speaker 1: go and buy a new one because I already have 390 00:18:19,694 --> 00:18:22,494 Speaker 1: four in my cabinet. If you get bored of your 391 00:18:22,534 --> 00:18:24,934 Speaker 1: project Pan, you swap a blush out for a different one. 392 00:18:24,974 --> 00:18:27,694 Speaker 1: But the idea is that you keep using consistently the 393 00:18:27,734 --> 00:18:31,254 Speaker 1: same product till you hit pan, hence the name project Pan, 394 00:18:31,574 --> 00:18:33,854 Speaker 1: and then you move on PAN. If you're not familiar, 395 00:18:34,214 --> 00:18:36,614 Speaker 1: is when you are using a product and you get 396 00:18:36,654 --> 00:18:38,054 Speaker 1: to the end of it. If it's something like a 397 00:18:38,054 --> 00:18:40,414 Speaker 1: blush or an eyeshadow compact, the pan is the metal 398 00:18:40,454 --> 00:18:42,374 Speaker 1: part at the bottom of it. It's just the name 399 00:18:42,414 --> 00:18:44,334 Speaker 1: that we've used. Obviously that doesn't apply to things like 400 00:18:44,374 --> 00:18:47,854 Speaker 1: liquid foundation or body moisturizer or whatever, but that is 401 00:18:47,934 --> 00:18:49,694 Speaker 1: the idea, the concept that you use it up and 402 00:18:49,694 --> 00:18:51,414 Speaker 1: you move on to the next one before you head 403 00:18:51,414 --> 00:18:52,574 Speaker 1: back to the shops to buy another. 404 00:18:52,854 --> 00:18:54,974 Speaker 2: Now, after you told me about this, I was intrigued, 405 00:18:55,014 --> 00:18:56,254 Speaker 2: So I went online and did a bit of a 406 00:18:56,254 --> 00:18:58,494 Speaker 2: search research, and the one that stood out for me 407 00:18:58,774 --> 00:19:03,014 Speaker 2: was this very expensive lipstick and women were sharing that 408 00:19:03,054 --> 00:19:06,894 Speaker 2: they thought they'd riched pan and then had discovered this 409 00:19:06,894 --> 00:19:09,174 Speaker 2: little loophole where if you peel the sticker off the bottom, 410 00:19:09,214 --> 00:19:11,454 Speaker 2: there was a tiny hole and if you push something 411 00:19:11,534 --> 00:19:14,254 Speaker 2: up into this hole, it was almost like a whole other, 412 00:19:14,494 --> 00:19:17,334 Speaker 2: entire new lipstick existed inside the tube that you could 413 00:19:17,374 --> 00:19:19,854 Speaker 2: not reach had you not discovered it through the bottom. 414 00:19:20,014 --> 00:19:23,494 Speaker 2: All these people like I was throwing this out when 415 00:19:23,534 --> 00:19:25,934 Speaker 2: it had a whole other lipstick left to go, like, 416 00:19:25,934 --> 00:19:26,374 Speaker 2: it's wilde. 417 00:19:26,494 --> 00:19:28,574 Speaker 1: You say you're not diy and crafty, but I hazard 418 00:19:28,574 --> 00:19:30,294 Speaker 1: I guess that you've probably had a crack it doing that. 419 00:19:30,334 --> 00:19:33,574 Speaker 2: Now I've given it a little looxie in my makeup 420 00:19:33,614 --> 00:19:35,694 Speaker 2: bag to see if I have any I very rarely 421 00:19:35,694 --> 00:19:37,494 Speaker 2: wear lipstick, so it's not one for me, But there 422 00:19:37,494 --> 00:19:39,214 Speaker 2: are other things like you just got to make sure 423 00:19:39,254 --> 00:19:40,974 Speaker 2: you get all the way to the bottom. And for me, 424 00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:45,134 Speaker 2: it's about cutting open bottles y if you can't get 425 00:19:45,134 --> 00:19:47,014 Speaker 2: into it properly so that you can actually get a 426 00:19:47,014 --> 00:19:48,814 Speaker 2: finger down to the bottom to get the last of 427 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,094 Speaker 2: it out, or keeping things upside downs of it everything 428 00:19:52,214 --> 00:19:54,494 Speaker 2: drains to the top so you can actually get to it. 429 00:19:54,574 --> 00:19:57,294 Speaker 2: So like I really enjoy knowing that I've gotten every 430 00:19:57,334 --> 00:20:01,254 Speaker 2: single sceric of whatever that product is. But Taylor, this 431 00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:05,574 Speaker 2: movement extends beyond personal finance to challenge the broader culture 432 00:20:05,614 --> 00:20:08,494 Speaker 2: of consumption. It's encouraging people to question their relationship with 433 00:20:08,574 --> 00:20:13,054 Speaker 2: material possession and redefine what constitutes a fulfilling lifestyle. The 434 00:20:13,214 --> 00:20:16,334 Speaker 2: under Consumption TREN shows no signs of flowing down. Instead, 435 00:20:16,494 --> 00:20:19,334 Speaker 2: it's evolving into a more sustainable approach to living that 436 00:20:19,454 --> 00:20:24,694 Speaker 2: balances financial responsibility with personal wellbeing. It is not about deprivation, 437 00:20:25,014 --> 00:20:28,894 Speaker 2: It's about making more intentional choices without resources. Thanks for 438 00:20:28,934 --> 00:20:30,574 Speaker 2: taking the time to feed your mind with us today. 439 00:20:30,574 --> 00:20:33,094 Speaker 2: The Quikie is produced by me Claire Murphy and our 440 00:20:33,134 --> 00:20:36,654 Speaker 2: executive producer and guest today, Taylor Strano, with audio production 441 00:20:36,814 --> 00:20:37,454 Speaker 2: by Lou Hill.