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Speaker 1: is recorded on. Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Muma

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Speaker 1: MIA's twice daily news podcast, The Quickie. In case he

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Speaker 1: missed it, Taylor Swift has new music on the way.

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Speaker 2: This is my first podcast.

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Speaker 1: What took you so long to jump on podcasts? You

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Speaker 3: I was waiting for you guys to invite me. This

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Speaker 3: is my favorite podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's been a big week of Easter Eggs podcast debuts

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Speaker 1: which you just heard a little snippet of there, and

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Speaker 1: of course new album information overload. Plus we're moving to

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Speaker 1: a four day working week. New leak treasury documents have

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Speaker 1: outlined the government's priorities ahead of next week's productivity round table.

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Speaker 1: Before we get there, here's Tarlie Blackman with the latest

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Speaker 1: from The Quickie newsroom for Friday, August fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Taylor, US President Donald Trump says he believes Russian

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Speaker 3: President Vladimir Putin may finally be ready to strike it

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Speaker 3: admitted a ceasefire isn't guaranteed. At the same time, Ukrainian

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Speaker 3: President Voladimir Zelenski is in the UK meeting with Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister Kiir Starma to strengthen European support and push back

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Speaker 3: against any agreement that could let Russia keep Ukrainian land.

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Speaker 3: Trump one day would be severe consequences if Putin refuses

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Speaker 3: will speak afterward. Film critic, writer and educator David Stratton,

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Speaker 3: famous for co hosting at the Movies with Margaret Pomerance,

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi praised his sharp insight and love

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Speaker 3: of Australian stories. Stratton's family has asked the public to

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Speaker 3: favorite movie. Singing in the Rain. Humanoid robots danced, played music,

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Speaker 3: the first World Humanoid Robot Games in Beijing. The three

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Speaker 3: of contract and fraud, seeking fifty million dollars. Priscilla's lawyer

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Speaker 2: I am praying for a single. So a bit of

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Speaker 1: The Australian Council of Trade Union certainly hope so. Ahead

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Speaker 4: Productivity Roundtable brings people together to look at how we

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