1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,385 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,145 --> 00:00:23,105 Speaker 3: Hey You Bi's producer Steph. Here with your weekly fashion 5 00:00:23,145 --> 00:00:26,545 Speaker 3: fix of Nothing to Wear. Lee catches up with Anthea O'Connor, 6 00:00:26,585 --> 00:00:30,585 Speaker 3: a personal stylist and former Melbourne editor of Vogue Australia. 7 00:00:30,705 --> 00:00:33,265 Speaker 3: She helps you find the blueprint to your wardrobe. 8 00:00:33,545 --> 00:00:33,905 Speaker 4: Enjoy. 9 00:00:35,905 --> 00:00:37,465 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is the new pink? 10 00:00:37,585 --> 00:00:41,265 Speaker 2: With seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 11 00:00:41,505 --> 00:00:43,305 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. 12 00:00:43,345 --> 00:00:44,585 Speaker 4: You live for fashion. 13 00:00:45,785 --> 00:00:48,625 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 14 00:00:48,745 --> 00:00:50,585 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems. 15 00:00:50,105 --> 00:00:51,745 Speaker 1: And levels up your wardrobe. 16 00:00:51,905 --> 00:00:54,625 Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbell and every week I talk to an 17 00:00:54,665 --> 00:00:57,065 Speaker 2: expert who helps us work out how to get more 18 00:00:57,105 --> 00:00:59,305 Speaker 2: out of the clothes we already own and tells us 19 00:00:59,345 --> 00:01:03,025 Speaker 2: exactly what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. 20 00:01:03,265 --> 00:01:06,265 Speaker 2: And on Matt do you have all your favorite wardrobe 21 00:01:06,305 --> 00:01:09,185 Speaker 2: pieces but feel a bit lost when it comes to 22 00:01:09,265 --> 00:01:12,905 Speaker 2: putting them together? The chances are you haven't yet discovered 23 00:01:13,025 --> 00:01:16,185 Speaker 2: the blueprint for your wardrobe, a way to unlock the 24 00:01:16,225 --> 00:01:20,185 Speaker 2: full potential of everything you own. Today's guest Anthea O'Connor 25 00:01:20,305 --> 00:01:23,985 Speaker 2: is here to help. A personal stylist and former Melbourne 26 00:01:24,065 --> 00:01:28,385 Speaker 2: editor of Vogue Australia, Anthea has spent decades helping women 27 00:01:28,425 --> 00:01:32,505 Speaker 2: discover their signature style and simplifying their morning routines to 28 00:01:32,585 --> 00:01:35,025 Speaker 2: make it easy to choose what to wear and how 29 00:01:35,065 --> 00:01:38,105 Speaker 2: to wear it. Finding your wardrobe blueprint is just one 30 00:01:38,145 --> 00:01:42,705 Speaker 2: of her go to tips for making fashion feel effortless. Anthea, firstly, 31 00:01:42,825 --> 00:01:45,505 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. It is so wonderful to have you, 32 00:01:45,585 --> 00:01:48,585 Speaker 2: and I start every episode with a new guest with 33 00:01:48,665 --> 00:01:52,865 Speaker 2: a couple of questions. So firstly, can you describe your 34 00:01:52,905 --> 00:01:54,505 Speaker 2: own style in three words? 35 00:01:54,985 --> 00:01:57,345 Speaker 4: Oh goodness, well, hi, lay and thank you for having me. 36 00:01:57,545 --> 00:01:59,905 Speaker 4: Very excited to be joining you today. And look, I 37 00:01:59,945 --> 00:02:02,825 Speaker 4: have given this a little bit of thought because I thought, 38 00:02:02,825 --> 00:02:04,345 Speaker 4: by now, at this point in my career, I really 39 00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:06,905 Speaker 4: should have this downpat. I've come up with a word 40 00:02:06,945 --> 00:02:10,265 Speaker 4: called progressive classic, which are kind of made up because 41 00:02:10,985 --> 00:02:13,145 Speaker 4: I guess, like most people, i'd like to think my 42 00:02:13,305 --> 00:02:16,785 Speaker 4: sense of style is classic, but I think progressive meaning 43 00:02:16,865 --> 00:02:18,745 Speaker 4: I'm not going to get stuck in a style right 44 00:02:18,785 --> 00:02:21,185 Speaker 4: and I'm always looking ahead to what the kind of 45 00:02:21,225 --> 00:02:24,025 Speaker 4: reworked refreshed classic pieces. 46 00:02:24,465 --> 00:02:28,305 Speaker 2: I really really like that there's the classics that shapes change, 47 00:02:28,305 --> 00:02:29,265 Speaker 2: but it's still a white shirt. 48 00:02:29,305 --> 00:02:30,785 Speaker 1: It might be a different white shirt. 49 00:02:30,545 --> 00:02:32,905 Speaker 4: That's exactly right, and the category might be the same, 50 00:02:32,945 --> 00:02:35,585 Speaker 4: but execution is tweaked a little bit and you're moving 51 00:02:35,625 --> 00:02:36,265 Speaker 4: forward with it. 52 00:02:36,385 --> 00:02:39,065 Speaker 1: I love that. Now, are you claiming that as one 53 00:02:39,065 --> 00:02:39,585 Speaker 1: word or two? 54 00:02:40,105 --> 00:02:42,105 Speaker 4: Look in my notes said I've made it up and 55 00:02:42,145 --> 00:02:44,065 Speaker 4: it was hyphen but we could make that one word. 56 00:02:44,145 --> 00:02:45,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one word. What else have you got? 57 00:02:45,985 --> 00:02:48,585 Speaker 4: Elevated? Which is sort of a funny old word, but 58 00:02:48,625 --> 00:02:50,545 Speaker 4: I think for me that means I'm just going to 59 00:02:50,585 --> 00:02:52,705 Speaker 4: be trying to smarten it up all the time. I'm 60 00:02:52,745 --> 00:02:54,625 Speaker 4: one of those people where I feel, you know, don't 61 00:02:54,665 --> 00:02:57,465 Speaker 4: save your good stuff, put it on, feel good, look 62 00:02:57,465 --> 00:03:00,065 Speaker 4: your best, and don't kind of save it for a 63 00:03:00,145 --> 00:03:01,185 Speaker 4: special occasion. 64 00:03:01,225 --> 00:03:01,665 Speaker 1: I agree. 65 00:03:01,945 --> 00:03:03,785 Speaker 4: Mind being the most overdressed person in. 66 00:03:03,705 --> 00:03:05,265 Speaker 1: A room me neither. I'm not going to wear a 67 00:03:05,305 --> 00:03:05,665 Speaker 1: ball gown. 68 00:03:05,705 --> 00:03:07,465 Speaker 2: But if I've got five pairs of jeans and one 69 00:03:07,465 --> 00:03:08,905 Speaker 2: of them are the best ones, I want to reach 70 00:03:08,985 --> 00:03:09,585 Speaker 2: for the con of it. 71 00:03:09,865 --> 00:03:14,225 Speaker 4: So that's exactly my thinking as well. And then I 72 00:03:14,265 --> 00:03:17,265 Speaker 4: thought another word was maybe assured. And by that, I 73 00:03:17,345 --> 00:03:20,025 Speaker 4: mean I know what looks good on me by now, 74 00:03:20,105 --> 00:03:22,225 Speaker 4: and I know how it makes me feel, and I 75 00:03:22,265 --> 00:03:25,785 Speaker 4: hope that's reflected in my style and how I'm wearing something. 76 00:03:26,265 --> 00:03:28,145 Speaker 2: I love that too, and I hope so too, because 77 00:03:28,145 --> 00:03:30,305 Speaker 2: this is your job, and I must agree you are 78 00:03:30,345 --> 00:03:33,545 Speaker 2: definitely those three words now, the saying that rings true 79 00:03:33,585 --> 00:03:36,265 Speaker 2: with most people. We wear ten percent of our wardrobe 80 00:03:36,385 --> 00:03:39,025 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time, so there's stuff we reached 81 00:03:39,065 --> 00:03:39,945 Speaker 2: for over and over. 82 00:03:40,065 --> 00:03:41,225 Speaker 1: What's in your ten percent? 83 00:03:41,465 --> 00:03:43,345 Speaker 4: This is such a great stat and it's interesting because 84 00:03:43,385 --> 00:03:45,145 Speaker 4: I've sort of used that stat a lot myself, and 85 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,705 Speaker 4: I thought we wore twenty percent of our wardrobe eighty 86 00:03:47,745 --> 00:03:49,825 Speaker 4: percent of the time. So I'm loving this increased. 87 00:03:51,425 --> 00:03:53,665 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the ninety percent though. 88 00:03:53,465 --> 00:03:56,385 Speaker 4: Oh it's so true. So what is in my ten percent? 89 00:03:56,585 --> 00:03:59,505 Speaker 4: It is definitely denim. I do feel we've had a 90 00:03:59,545 --> 00:04:03,265 Speaker 4: couple of seasons of very denim centric kind of style 91 00:04:03,345 --> 00:04:06,825 Speaker 4: and fashion looks so denim at the moment shirts. I 92 00:04:06,905 --> 00:04:09,665 Speaker 4: wear shirts and shirting a lot. I really kind of 93 00:04:09,785 --> 00:04:12,425 Speaker 4: go between those and white T shirts. 94 00:04:12,905 --> 00:04:14,745 Speaker 1: You and I sound like we should share a wardrobe 95 00:04:14,745 --> 00:04:15,305 Speaker 1: as long as I. 96 00:04:15,225 --> 00:04:19,145 Speaker 4: Get your skincare in the mix too, So definitely denim shirts, 97 00:04:19,225 --> 00:04:22,145 Speaker 4: T shirts and a great blazer are my definite sort 98 00:04:22,145 --> 00:04:24,785 Speaker 4: of tight pieces within that ten percent. 99 00:04:25,625 --> 00:04:27,145 Speaker 1: I like that we are very similar. 100 00:04:27,185 --> 00:04:29,985 Speaker 2: Now, listen, you're a personal stylist and you have been 101 00:04:30,145 --> 00:04:33,425 Speaker 2: for many years. So who are your clients and what 102 00:04:33,505 --> 00:04:36,185 Speaker 2: do you find are their main problems with their wardrobe? 103 00:04:36,185 --> 00:04:37,225 Speaker 2: What are they coming to you for? 104 00:04:37,905 --> 00:04:42,025 Speaker 4: Good question, Good question. I am a stylist and I 105 00:04:42,145 --> 00:04:46,945 Speaker 4: work with everyday normal ladies, just regular women who are 106 00:04:47,105 --> 00:04:49,385 Speaker 4: getting about their weeks, their days and their weeks. I 107 00:04:49,425 --> 00:04:51,945 Speaker 4: have a really broad mix of clients. I've been doing 108 00:04:51,945 --> 00:04:56,385 Speaker 4: this for fourteen years since I left Vogue, and really 109 00:04:56,425 --> 00:04:58,665 Speaker 4: I'm working with clients that I began working with back 110 00:04:58,705 --> 00:05:01,785 Speaker 4: in twenty ten. So it's been a really lovely next 111 00:05:01,865 --> 00:05:06,185 Speaker 4: chapter of my fashion career. And I work with regular 112 00:05:06,225 --> 00:05:10,025 Speaker 4: women that can be anything from corporate executive to stay 113 00:05:10,065 --> 00:05:12,585 Speaker 4: at home mum to someone that is juggling their own 114 00:05:12,625 --> 00:05:15,505 Speaker 4: business with other aspects of their life and kind of 115 00:05:15,545 --> 00:05:19,225 Speaker 4: everything in between. So I guess the thing that probably 116 00:05:19,705 --> 00:05:22,345 Speaker 4: sets my sort of little business and what I do 117 00:05:22,385 --> 00:05:24,345 Speaker 4: a part is I sort of begin this journey with 118 00:05:24,425 --> 00:05:26,705 Speaker 4: all my gorgeous clients and we sort of really stay together. 119 00:05:26,985 --> 00:05:30,105 Speaker 4: That's amazing, in and out of work together and see 120 00:05:30,105 --> 00:05:32,385 Speaker 4: each other a few times a year, once a year, 121 00:05:32,505 --> 00:05:35,225 Speaker 4: once every two years. It kind of depends on the client. 122 00:05:35,745 --> 00:05:38,065 Speaker 2: And why do they come to you. Are they overwhelmed 123 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:40,865 Speaker 2: by fashion? Do they not have time for fashion? Are 124 00:05:40,865 --> 00:05:43,785 Speaker 2: they try to get the best out of their budget? 125 00:05:44,385 --> 00:05:47,665 Speaker 4: All of the above, Yes, absolutely, all of the above. 126 00:05:47,865 --> 00:05:50,745 Speaker 4: I think essentially they're coming to me because they're busy, 127 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:52,705 Speaker 4: they've got a lot on they've got other things that 128 00:05:52,745 --> 00:05:56,385 Speaker 4: are taking priority in their brain capacity, and they're coming 129 00:05:56,385 --> 00:05:58,865 Speaker 4: to me for my kind of expert eye. I can 130 00:05:58,905 --> 00:06:01,705 Speaker 4: cut to the chase, I know the best black pants 131 00:06:01,745 --> 00:06:04,585 Speaker 4: they need for what they need them to do. It's 132 00:06:04,625 --> 00:06:06,385 Speaker 4: a little bit, I guess I describe it a little 133 00:06:06,425 --> 00:06:08,905 Speaker 4: bit like being an interior designer. Not many people would 134 00:06:08,945 --> 00:06:12,465 Speaker 4: embark on a house renovation project without getting an expert 135 00:06:12,505 --> 00:06:15,105 Speaker 4: opinion or an expert eye in the mix for some 136 00:06:15,145 --> 00:06:18,145 Speaker 4: of those critical decisions. And I feel I sort of 137 00:06:18,425 --> 00:06:21,305 Speaker 4: am a little bit similar. But in the wardrobe clothing space, 138 00:06:21,345 --> 00:06:23,665 Speaker 4: they're coming to me for my expert eye, a bit 139 00:06:23,705 --> 00:06:26,825 Speaker 4: of a well edited eye, and I present to them 140 00:06:27,145 --> 00:06:29,825 Speaker 4: the kind of curated edit of what I think they 141 00:06:29,865 --> 00:06:31,185 Speaker 4: need for what they need. 142 00:06:31,225 --> 00:06:33,585 Speaker 2: That's such a good analogy, that is so so true. 143 00:06:33,785 --> 00:06:36,185 Speaker 2: It's like you wouldn't do a big fit out without 144 00:06:36,185 --> 00:06:37,585 Speaker 2: a professional, and it's the same thing. 145 00:06:37,865 --> 00:06:40,865 Speaker 4: Embarking on the process of a personal stylist is an investment. 146 00:06:41,185 --> 00:06:44,225 Speaker 4: But I do feel you're setting yourself up for better 147 00:06:44,265 --> 00:06:47,025 Speaker 4: financial decisions and outcomes with your wardrobe. Oh and this 148 00:06:47,065 --> 00:06:48,665 Speaker 4: is where it gets really funny. After we sort of 149 00:06:48,665 --> 00:06:50,745 Speaker 4: work through our process together and we set up their 150 00:06:50,785 --> 00:06:53,585 Speaker 4: wardrobe and everything's there, they'll say, oh God, I've got 151 00:06:53,625 --> 00:06:55,585 Speaker 4: a black tie function on Thursday. I need a new dress. 152 00:06:55,585 --> 00:06:58,025 Speaker 4: And I'll say, no, you don't refer back to those 153 00:06:58,025 --> 00:07:00,705 Speaker 4: black velvet pants that we just set you up with 154 00:07:00,745 --> 00:07:03,305 Speaker 4: that look great for an after five event, and that 155 00:07:03,385 --> 00:07:05,345 Speaker 4: fabulous top, So you don't need to go and do 156 00:07:05,385 --> 00:07:07,465 Speaker 4: that impulse spend panic purchase. 157 00:07:08,065 --> 00:07:10,865 Speaker 2: I never panic purchase, but I amotional purchase a lot 158 00:07:10,945 --> 00:07:14,585 Speaker 2: rich and I'm always in some sort of emotion. So honestly, 159 00:07:14,625 --> 00:07:16,265 Speaker 2: I do need a bit of a minder when it 160 00:07:16,305 --> 00:07:16,905 Speaker 2: comes to shopping. 161 00:07:16,905 --> 00:07:18,945 Speaker 1: It sounds like that's what you're good for. Now. 162 00:07:19,105 --> 00:07:21,825 Speaker 2: Something you've talked about before is when you go shopping 163 00:07:21,865 --> 00:07:25,465 Speaker 2: with these clients, you're like their projector against the shop assistance, 164 00:07:25,505 --> 00:07:26,545 Speaker 2: and you're their advocate. 165 00:07:26,705 --> 00:07:27,705 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? 166 00:07:28,265 --> 00:07:30,585 Speaker 4: I like to think that I'm a sort of a 167 00:07:30,665 --> 00:07:33,305 Speaker 4: value add in a retail space with a client, because 168 00:07:33,505 --> 00:07:35,905 Speaker 4: I really work with women that are predominantly I guess, 169 00:07:36,025 --> 00:07:39,945 Speaker 4: sort of early forties through to late fifties, and interestingly, 170 00:07:39,985 --> 00:07:42,145 Speaker 4: a lot of women in that demographic might have lost 171 00:07:42,185 --> 00:07:45,465 Speaker 4: their style confidence and lose a little bit of that 172 00:07:45,505 --> 00:07:48,385 Speaker 4: self confidence part, particularly when they're at retail and they 173 00:07:48,385 --> 00:07:50,385 Speaker 4: get a little bit overwhelmed by what's in front of them. 174 00:07:50,625 --> 00:07:52,425 Speaker 4: And I like to think I'm there, I am a 175 00:07:52,425 --> 00:07:56,585 Speaker 4: bit of an advocate. I will say exactly what I think, 176 00:07:56,825 --> 00:08:00,225 Speaker 4: so whereas perhaps a retail assistant will say that looks great, 177 00:08:00,265 --> 00:08:03,625 Speaker 4: that looks great. I'm there going actually they really do 178 00:08:03,705 --> 00:08:06,025 Speaker 4: look great, and actually that pair doesn't look as great, 179 00:08:06,065 --> 00:08:08,865 Speaker 4: and they don't look great because of XYZ. So creating 180 00:08:08,865 --> 00:08:12,825 Speaker 4: a context explanation which makes the whole shopping process a 181 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:16,785 Speaker 4: lot more informative and educated and easier. 182 00:08:16,905 --> 00:08:18,865 Speaker 1: Ultimately, Yeah, and it can be intimidating. 183 00:08:18,905 --> 00:08:20,745 Speaker 2: I mean, I mostly shop online these days, but if 184 00:08:20,785 --> 00:08:23,105 Speaker 2: I do go in store sometimes and the sales assistant 185 00:08:23,145 --> 00:08:23,905 Speaker 2: is saying, how do you. 186 00:08:23,905 --> 00:08:25,185 Speaker 1: Look in that? Do you need another size? Let me 187 00:08:25,185 --> 00:08:25,465 Speaker 1: have a look. 188 00:08:25,465 --> 00:08:27,425 Speaker 2: Oh that looks great, And sometimes I'm like, oh okay, 189 00:08:27,465 --> 00:08:28,985 Speaker 2: and you might end up buying it. You might end 190 00:08:29,065 --> 00:08:31,865 Speaker 2: up leaving because it's a lot, but if you tried 191 00:08:31,945 --> 00:08:33,505 Speaker 2: on other things in that story, you might have found 192 00:08:33,545 --> 00:08:34,065 Speaker 2: some winners. 193 00:08:34,185 --> 00:08:36,105 Speaker 4: One hundred percent, And I really kind of make that 194 00:08:36,225 --> 00:08:38,745 Speaker 4: retail time count. I'm out there running around the floor 195 00:08:38,825 --> 00:08:40,825 Speaker 4: making sure I've got all the items that I think 196 00:08:40,825 --> 00:08:42,865 Speaker 4: are right for that client. How they go back with 197 00:08:42,905 --> 00:08:45,385 Speaker 4: the pieces that we've already pulled, So I guess I'm 198 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:47,065 Speaker 4: sort of that init running around. 199 00:08:47,265 --> 00:08:48,985 Speaker 2: Half the time, I'm like, oh I need a different size. 200 00:08:48,985 --> 00:08:50,345 Speaker 2: I can't be bothered to go up my clothes on 201 00:08:50,425 --> 00:08:51,465 Speaker 2: go get it. I'll just leave. 202 00:08:51,785 --> 00:08:54,025 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Whereas I'm out there getting the size 203 00:08:54,065 --> 00:08:56,785 Speaker 4: above below. So we've got all the options and we're 204 00:08:56,785 --> 00:08:59,505 Speaker 4: doing that in real time, bang bang bang yes no, 205 00:08:59,665 --> 00:09:01,905 Speaker 4: yes no, So it ends up banging a much more 206 00:09:01,945 --> 00:09:03,185 Speaker 4: efficient way to go shopping. 207 00:09:03,585 --> 00:09:05,745 Speaker 2: And speaking of in real time. So you take these 208 00:09:05,785 --> 00:09:08,105 Speaker 2: clients shopping rever possible. Do you ever work with people 209 00:09:08,105 --> 00:09:10,185 Speaker 2: that are into state? Do you have people that shop 210 00:09:10,265 --> 00:09:13,105 Speaker 2: online or do you ever recommend you know, online purchases. 211 00:09:13,345 --> 00:09:16,065 Speaker 4: Absolutely, the nature of how we do our retail what 212 00:09:16,105 --> 00:09:18,625 Speaker 4: I call our retail appointment together because we start with 213 00:09:18,665 --> 00:09:21,625 Speaker 4: the wardrobe board it at their house, in their own wardrobe. 214 00:09:21,985 --> 00:09:25,785 Speaker 4: Part two is the retail appointment that has changed significantly 215 00:09:26,025 --> 00:09:28,825 Speaker 4: in the last four or five years since COVID, So 216 00:09:29,065 --> 00:09:31,385 Speaker 4: pretty much the model now is I will go back 217 00:09:31,385 --> 00:09:33,785 Speaker 4: to with clients with a full recommendations list and it 218 00:09:33,865 --> 00:09:36,585 Speaker 4: is largely online. Now some things we will do in 219 00:09:36,585 --> 00:09:39,425 Speaker 4: person at retail, but largely it will be online, and 220 00:09:39,465 --> 00:09:41,865 Speaker 4: that again depends on the client and the brief and 221 00:09:41,905 --> 00:09:44,505 Speaker 4: what we're trying to fulfill. It is a mix, but 222 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:47,025 Speaker 4: it is definitely skewing more towards online. And then we 223 00:09:47,185 --> 00:09:50,945 Speaker 4: go are fitting. And this is where it gets even better, 224 00:09:50,945 --> 00:09:52,785 Speaker 4: because we do a fitting then at their house and 225 00:09:52,825 --> 00:09:55,385 Speaker 4: we are trying all the pieces on with their existing 226 00:09:55,665 --> 00:10:00,865 Speaker 4: items of clothing okay, their accessories in their own personal environment, 227 00:10:01,425 --> 00:10:03,385 Speaker 4: and it just makes for a I think, a more 228 00:10:03,505 --> 00:10:05,985 Speaker 4: efficient experience at getting the whole big. 229 00:10:05,825 --> 00:10:08,225 Speaker 2: Picture kind of a wardrobe edit and then a shopping 230 00:10:08,425 --> 00:10:09,465 Speaker 2: situation of some sort. 231 00:10:09,505 --> 00:10:11,465 Speaker 1: And at the end it's kind of pulling together the 232 00:10:11,465 --> 00:10:12,265 Speaker 1: older the new. 233 00:10:12,425 --> 00:10:15,185 Speaker 4: Pulling it all together. We're integrating the new items that 234 00:10:15,225 --> 00:10:18,065 Speaker 4: we're using to rework and refresh their old existing items, 235 00:10:18,105 --> 00:10:19,985 Speaker 4: because we don't just throw obviously, we don't just come 236 00:10:19,985 --> 00:10:22,105 Speaker 4: in and move everything out. I'm going into the eye 237 00:10:22,145 --> 00:10:24,185 Speaker 4: who say they're great, but we're going to wear them 238 00:10:24,185 --> 00:10:25,785 Speaker 4: this way. We're going to try those pants with a 239 00:10:25,785 --> 00:10:28,545 Speaker 4: whole different concept of top or a different shape blazer. 240 00:10:28,745 --> 00:10:30,705 Speaker 4: So we sort of em up the things that are 241 00:10:30,745 --> 00:10:33,105 Speaker 4: certainly there with potential. We then bring in the new 242 00:10:33,145 --> 00:10:35,185 Speaker 4: items that are going to just update and refresh what 243 00:10:35,265 --> 00:10:37,545 Speaker 4: they have, and we just do a massive, big fitting 244 00:10:37,585 --> 00:10:39,785 Speaker 4: together at the end. And then that allows them to 245 00:10:39,825 --> 00:10:42,825 Speaker 4: get a big picture, complete sense of how their wardrobe 246 00:10:42,865 --> 00:10:44,185 Speaker 4: is going to work for them and how they're going 247 00:10:44,225 --> 00:10:47,185 Speaker 4: to get dressed every day because they're seeing it in situ. 248 00:10:47,345 --> 00:10:49,585 Speaker 2: And you need to write because otherwise you just think, oh, 249 00:10:49,625 --> 00:10:51,345 Speaker 2: that new top goes with those pants. But actually, if 250 00:10:51,345 --> 00:10:53,145 Speaker 2: you take the time to work out all the combos, 251 00:10:53,185 --> 00:10:54,665 Speaker 2: you've got so much more to wear than you think 252 00:10:54,705 --> 00:10:54,905 Speaker 2: you do. 253 00:10:55,145 --> 00:10:56,185 Speaker 1: You've got some great tips. 254 00:10:56,265 --> 00:10:58,945 Speaker 2: So you have three objectives, and I want to break 255 00:10:58,985 --> 00:11:01,665 Speaker 2: down each of them. Their first is finding the blueprint 256 00:11:01,785 --> 00:11:04,545 Speaker 2: to your wardrobe. The second is the style uniform, and 257 00:11:04,545 --> 00:11:06,825 Speaker 2: then the thirty is unlocking the way women get dressed 258 00:11:06,825 --> 00:11:09,385 Speaker 2: in the morning. So kind of three steps, can you 259 00:11:09,665 --> 00:11:11,225 Speaker 2: that's playing the blueprint first? 260 00:11:11,505 --> 00:11:13,865 Speaker 4: Well, I guess when I say blueprint, it really is 261 00:11:14,065 --> 00:11:18,345 Speaker 4: identifying and establishing what your personal style is. So once 262 00:11:18,385 --> 00:11:20,665 Speaker 4: we get a handle on what that is, we can 263 00:11:20,745 --> 00:11:22,505 Speaker 4: then sort of put some pigs in the ground, if 264 00:11:22,545 --> 00:11:24,985 Speaker 4: you like. What are the items of clothing that are 265 00:11:25,025 --> 00:11:28,065 Speaker 4: going to contribute to that sort of style blueprint? Okay, 266 00:11:28,145 --> 00:11:30,745 Speaker 4: what are the things you need? Once we establish what 267 00:11:30,785 --> 00:11:34,145 Speaker 4: that blueprint is, it just makes every future purchase a 268 00:11:34,185 --> 00:11:37,385 Speaker 4: little easier. Yes, and it relates back to what you have, 269 00:11:37,545 --> 00:11:39,345 Speaker 4: how you get dressed, how you want to look. 270 00:11:39,545 --> 00:11:41,985 Speaker 2: How can someone at home establish their blueprint? They don't 271 00:11:41,985 --> 00:11:44,705 Speaker 2: have a you there. Do they look at their ten 272 00:11:44,745 --> 00:11:46,865 Speaker 2: percent of the stuff they wear all the time? Do they 273 00:11:47,465 --> 00:11:49,945 Speaker 2: assess their lifestyle? You know, they've got a toddler they're 274 00:11:49,945 --> 00:11:51,705 Speaker 2: out on the floor, or you know they're a lawyer 275 00:11:51,745 --> 00:11:54,585 Speaker 2: and they've always got to wear, you know, a certain style. 276 00:11:54,825 --> 00:11:56,905 Speaker 1: How does one find their blueprint? 277 00:11:57,305 --> 00:12:00,705 Speaker 4: Get a big clothing rack or two, pull out everything 278 00:12:01,065 --> 00:12:04,265 Speaker 4: and start organizing into groups. Pull out the things you 279 00:12:04,305 --> 00:12:07,265 Speaker 4: wear all the time, okay they're over there. Pull out 280 00:12:07,265 --> 00:12:10,025 Speaker 4: the things you really wish you could wear more, but 281 00:12:10,065 --> 00:12:12,105 Speaker 4: you're a little bit unsure as to how to do that. 282 00:12:12,145 --> 00:12:14,625 Speaker 4: They're the things you really like that you find appealing 283 00:12:14,665 --> 00:12:17,305 Speaker 4: from a style point of view. Put those on another rack. 284 00:12:17,665 --> 00:12:19,505 Speaker 4: Put the things that you just have in warning ages 285 00:12:19,505 --> 00:12:21,545 Speaker 4: and you've got no idea why they're still hanging around 286 00:12:21,625 --> 00:12:23,825 Speaker 4: taking up wardrobe space. Put them on another rack, and 287 00:12:23,865 --> 00:12:27,585 Speaker 4: then a picture just slowly emerges. Okay, I'm wearing those 288 00:12:27,625 --> 00:12:29,225 Speaker 4: things all the time. Am I wearing them because I 289 00:12:29,265 --> 00:12:31,585 Speaker 4: want to or it's just a default position because I'm 290 00:12:31,665 --> 00:12:35,265 Speaker 4: used to it. Little threads will start to emerge. Now obviously, 291 00:12:35,705 --> 00:12:37,905 Speaker 4: if I'm there, I can sort of make that connection 292 00:12:37,945 --> 00:12:40,705 Speaker 4: a little faster, but it does become obvious. You can 293 00:12:40,745 --> 00:12:42,385 Speaker 4: see what you're wearing a lot of. You can see 294 00:12:42,385 --> 00:12:44,905 Speaker 4: what's sparking joy, what you like wearing, and then you 295 00:12:44,945 --> 00:12:47,785 Speaker 4: can sort of define what are those pieces that make 296 00:12:47,865 --> 00:12:50,265 Speaker 4: me feel good that I feel good in that I 297 00:12:50,305 --> 00:12:52,305 Speaker 4: want to wear more of, And it kind of just 298 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:55,185 Speaker 4: starts to gain a little bit of mental makes sense. 299 00:12:55,025 --> 00:12:57,345 Speaker 2: It does, So that's working out the blueprint and then 300 00:12:57,345 --> 00:12:58,985 Speaker 2: from there, I guess we're left with what you call 301 00:12:59,025 --> 00:13:02,865 Speaker 2: the style uniform, which everybody has, but everyone must have 302 00:13:02,945 --> 00:13:05,105 Speaker 2: a different style uniform one hundred percent. 303 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:06,785 Speaker 4: No one's meant to look the same. That's all a 304 00:13:06,785 --> 00:13:09,065 Speaker 4: bit no thank you. You know a lot of people 305 00:13:09,145 --> 00:13:12,545 Speaker 4: willssociate the word uniform, have a negative connotation about it. 306 00:13:12,465 --> 00:13:14,705 Speaker 1: It sounds a bit boring, but it doesn't. But that's 307 00:13:14,705 --> 00:13:16,265 Speaker 1: not what we mean, not at all. 308 00:13:16,385 --> 00:13:18,865 Speaker 4: And when I say uniform, I really just mean pertaining 309 00:13:18,945 --> 00:13:23,105 Speaker 4: to the individual woman and client, because I think a 310 00:13:23,105 --> 00:13:25,865 Speaker 4: lot of people find sort of solace and assurance in 311 00:13:25,945 --> 00:13:29,425 Speaker 4: having a little bit of a boundary or a uniform definition, 312 00:13:29,505 --> 00:13:31,505 Speaker 4: which is, okay, what does the uniform mean? Well, it 313 00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:34,465 Speaker 4: means it's a collection of pieces that I wear that 314 00:13:34,545 --> 00:13:38,025 Speaker 4: I like, that all work together. So I guess my 315 00:13:38,065 --> 00:13:40,865 Speaker 4: big thing when working with clients is I want to 316 00:13:40,945 --> 00:13:44,065 Speaker 4: establish a framework of clothes, let's call that their uniform, 317 00:13:44,345 --> 00:13:47,025 Speaker 4: that all work together more than one way. Things that 318 00:13:47,065 --> 00:13:50,025 Speaker 4: we're not going to have really are items that sit 319 00:13:50,105 --> 00:13:53,785 Speaker 4: on their own in isolation, that don't really do anything. 320 00:13:53,945 --> 00:13:55,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you've got to work hard to work out 321 00:13:55,785 --> 00:13:57,905 Speaker 2: how to wear them, because clothes shouldn't be that way. 322 00:13:57,785 --> 00:13:59,585 Speaker 4: Exactly, Like you look at them and you think, I 323 00:13:59,585 --> 00:14:01,065 Speaker 4: want to wear that, but I've got no idea what's 324 00:14:01,065 --> 00:14:03,185 Speaker 4: going with that? Is it a skirt that then brings 325 00:14:03,185 --> 00:14:05,385 Speaker 4: a top and a shoe issue with it? Is it 326 00:14:05,465 --> 00:14:08,225 Speaker 4: a random top that makes no sense with your color 327 00:14:08,265 --> 00:14:10,785 Speaker 4: palette and the tones of the other items in your wardrobe. 328 00:14:11,305 --> 00:14:14,105 Speaker 4: So once we kind of move those things on, we 329 00:14:14,145 --> 00:14:17,665 Speaker 4: then introduce shapes and colors and things that all kind 330 00:14:17,705 --> 00:14:20,265 Speaker 4: of work together. So you can basically put six of 331 00:14:20,305 --> 00:14:21,985 Speaker 4: your tops with two pazz of your pants and all 332 00:14:21,985 --> 00:14:25,785 Speaker 4: of a sudden, how's my mask going twelve different looks more? 333 00:14:26,225 --> 00:14:28,665 Speaker 2: And that's kind of your capture wardrobe, but instead of 334 00:14:28,665 --> 00:14:30,745 Speaker 2: sort of there's so many terms for it, but it's 335 00:14:30,825 --> 00:14:33,905 Speaker 2: kind of almost going through your wardrobe working out your blueprint, 336 00:14:33,905 --> 00:14:36,785 Speaker 2: and then you're like, oh, that's my style uniform, and 337 00:14:36,825 --> 00:14:40,825 Speaker 2: then you can buy more of the similar look of 338 00:14:41,225 --> 00:14:43,945 Speaker 2: length or whatever, because you know that's what you're subconsciously 339 00:14:44,025 --> 00:14:47,065 Speaker 2: throwing on every morning. It's just making that conscious, Okay, 340 00:14:47,105 --> 00:14:49,105 Speaker 2: this is my uniform exactly. 341 00:14:49,105 --> 00:14:51,465 Speaker 4: It's like we need to blow it all up to 342 00:14:51,785 --> 00:14:54,825 Speaker 4: bring it back together with less pieces that prove their worth, 343 00:14:55,065 --> 00:14:59,385 Speaker 4: that show how they work a multitude of ways. Yes, Like, honestly, 344 00:14:59,465 --> 00:15:01,945 Speaker 4: we are not buying a blazer unless it works three 345 00:15:01,985 --> 00:15:05,225 Speaker 4: ways good across a number of different dress codes, and 346 00:15:05,225 --> 00:15:07,065 Speaker 4: if it doesn't get that chick of approval for me, 347 00:15:07,185 --> 00:15:09,385 Speaker 4: it's not coming home with the client. 348 00:15:09,905 --> 00:15:11,465 Speaker 2: It's so funny you say that, because I did a 349 00:15:11,465 --> 00:15:12,905 Speaker 2: mini clear out on the weekend and there was this 350 00:15:12,945 --> 00:15:15,665 Speaker 2: blazer that I bought but still had tags on maybe 351 00:15:15,745 --> 00:15:17,945 Speaker 2: nine months ago, and I tried to make her work. 352 00:15:18,025 --> 00:15:20,945 Speaker 2: I love the color, but it's just not part of 353 00:15:20,985 --> 00:15:22,745 Speaker 2: my style uniform. And I was trying to make the 354 00:15:22,785 --> 00:15:25,425 Speaker 2: blazer fit into my style uniform and it just didn't. 355 00:15:25,465 --> 00:15:28,625 Speaker 2: So I've donated her. Someone will love her. I liked 356 00:15:28,625 --> 00:15:30,505 Speaker 2: her on her own, but she did not form part 357 00:15:30,505 --> 00:15:31,625 Speaker 2: of my style uniform. 358 00:15:32,025 --> 00:15:33,985 Speaker 4: That's kind of it, right, That is sort of my 359 00:15:34,625 --> 00:15:38,345 Speaker 4: whole ethos with my clients. It's things that don't make sense, 360 00:15:38,385 --> 00:15:40,945 Speaker 4: that don't then fit into the picture that we create. 361 00:15:40,985 --> 00:15:53,185 Speaker 4: We need to park those for now. Now, having said 362 00:15:53,185 --> 00:15:56,305 Speaker 4: all of that, you absolutely can have an item that 363 00:15:56,385 --> 00:15:59,425 Speaker 4: sparks joy and is therefore no other reason than it 364 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:01,545 Speaker 4: makes you happy and you love it. So it's not 365 00:16:01,625 --> 00:16:05,345 Speaker 4: all just rules and regulations, rid of all the extra. 366 00:16:05,385 --> 00:16:07,425 Speaker 2: I guess that's sort of different. Like you say, spark Joy, 367 00:16:07,465 --> 00:16:09,505 Speaker 2: it's kind of the Marie condo of your wardrobe. It's 368 00:16:09,545 --> 00:16:12,585 Speaker 2: like that sparks Joy. But we're talking style uniform day 369 00:16:12,625 --> 00:16:16,185 Speaker 2: to day, so that our busy, rushed mornings aren't spent 370 00:16:16,265 --> 00:16:18,465 Speaker 2: forty five minutes trying to make that bloody blazer work. 371 00:16:19,465 --> 00:16:21,065 Speaker 4: It is all about at the end of the day. 372 00:16:21,145 --> 00:16:24,305 Speaker 4: My whole process with clients is about making getting dressed 373 00:16:24,345 --> 00:16:25,305 Speaker 4: every day easier. 374 00:16:25,745 --> 00:16:27,545 Speaker 2: And that's what I want to ask you about, because 375 00:16:27,585 --> 00:16:32,145 Speaker 2: you finally touch on unlocking getting dressed in the morning 376 00:16:32,145 --> 00:16:34,865 Speaker 2: and not hating it and feeling frenzied and throwing clothes 377 00:16:34,865 --> 00:16:37,385 Speaker 2: all over the floor or throwing on something that doesn't 378 00:16:37,385 --> 00:16:40,185 Speaker 2: make you feel good. So how does this work? How 379 00:16:40,185 --> 00:16:42,105 Speaker 2: do we enjoy getting dressed in the morning. 380 00:16:42,625 --> 00:16:45,265 Speaker 4: By the time that I've gone through the process with 381 00:16:45,385 --> 00:16:47,745 Speaker 4: my clients from sort of the wardrobe board it through 382 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:50,745 Speaker 4: the retail appointment to the fitting where we do a 383 00:16:50,825 --> 00:16:55,425 Speaker 4: styling session and fitting at home, we've demonstrated fifty looks 384 00:16:55,505 --> 00:16:57,785 Speaker 4: and I photograph it. I put it together for the 385 00:16:57,785 --> 00:16:58,305 Speaker 4: client with. 386 00:16:58,385 --> 00:17:00,305 Speaker 1: So do you have them put on the outfit and 387 00:17:00,305 --> 00:17:01,465 Speaker 1: your photograph. 388 00:17:00,945 --> 00:17:02,745 Speaker 4: It one million percent. 389 00:17:03,265 --> 00:17:05,145 Speaker 1: So then they've got a little bible of outfits to 390 00:17:05,225 --> 00:17:05,665 Speaker 1: look through. 391 00:17:06,505 --> 00:17:09,225 Speaker 4: It's like inspo for the Tuesday morning when it's six 392 00:17:09,265 --> 00:17:11,545 Speaker 4: degrees in Melbourne. You've lost the will to leave. You've 393 00:17:11,545 --> 00:17:13,785 Speaker 4: got to be for a meeting. What the heck am 394 00:17:13,785 --> 00:17:15,985 Speaker 4: I wearing? Page twelve done? 395 00:17:16,345 --> 00:17:16,545 Speaker 2: Done? 396 00:17:16,665 --> 00:17:20,465 Speaker 4: And it's just a guideline. It will spark thoughts on 397 00:17:20,545 --> 00:17:23,785 Speaker 4: how to put other pieces together. Obviously it's not entirely conclusive. 398 00:17:23,825 --> 00:17:25,465 Speaker 4: It can't be every single combination. 399 00:17:25,865 --> 00:17:27,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, I might feel them confident enough to go out 400 00:17:27,985 --> 00:17:29,505 Speaker 2: and buy a few new pieces, but I'm sure they 401 00:17:29,545 --> 00:17:30,305 Speaker 2: know how to work them. 402 00:17:30,225 --> 00:17:33,705 Speaker 4: Back in Exactly. The whole point is that I set 403 00:17:33,745 --> 00:17:36,345 Speaker 4: them up. I create this kind of foundation, this platform 404 00:17:36,385 --> 00:17:38,225 Speaker 4: where yep, I know how I want to look, I 405 00:17:38,265 --> 00:17:40,305 Speaker 4: know the pieces that I feel good in, I know 406 00:17:40,665 --> 00:17:44,305 Speaker 4: how I want my style to progress. And then they 407 00:17:44,345 --> 00:17:46,505 Speaker 4: do have the confidence to layer in and add the 408 00:17:46,505 --> 00:17:48,505 Speaker 4: pieces that are going to work back with those core 409 00:17:48,585 --> 00:17:51,905 Speaker 4: foundation pieces. It ends up being a cost saving because 410 00:17:52,105 --> 00:17:55,265 Speaker 4: not only are they set up and they just don't 411 00:17:55,305 --> 00:17:58,065 Speaker 4: need to keep adding, adding adding When they bring me 412 00:17:58,145 --> 00:17:59,625 Speaker 4: and they get in touch, it's like I've got to 413 00:17:59,665 --> 00:18:03,185 Speaker 4: get this. I am just like Big Brother bad News. 414 00:18:03,385 --> 00:18:06,025 Speaker 1: I'm like, absolutely no, I do not need that for 415 00:18:06,185 --> 00:18:07,305 Speaker 1: the credit card away. 416 00:18:07,385 --> 00:18:09,945 Speaker 4: A hard no on that and forget it and we 417 00:18:09,985 --> 00:18:10,345 Speaker 4: love it. 418 00:18:10,585 --> 00:18:12,985 Speaker 2: If people don't have you at home, should they put 419 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:14,785 Speaker 2: on their combos, stand in front of a full link 420 00:18:14,785 --> 00:18:16,785 Speaker 2: mirror and take a photo and save them on their phone? 421 00:18:16,785 --> 00:18:17,545 Speaker 1: How should people? 422 00:18:17,825 --> 00:18:20,705 Speaker 2: Because I love the visual reminder, because I'm so forgetful, 423 00:18:20,825 --> 00:18:22,425 Speaker 2: So how can we do it at home without the 424 00:18:22,545 --> 00:18:23,345 Speaker 2: joy of you there? 425 00:18:23,665 --> 00:18:28,625 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you need to dedicate a Sunday afternoon calle some 426 00:18:28,665 --> 00:18:30,625 Speaker 4: space in your brind to think. Okay, hang on a minute, 427 00:18:30,625 --> 00:18:32,185 Speaker 4: I'm just going to go back and look in my wardrobe. 428 00:18:32,225 --> 00:18:34,305 Speaker 4: What have I got? Pull some things out, try some 429 00:18:34,345 --> 00:18:38,865 Speaker 4: outfits on things that you see on Instagram, tiktop online, 430 00:18:38,905 --> 00:18:41,505 Speaker 4: good old magazines. I still buy them. I still read that. 431 00:18:41,585 --> 00:18:42,105 Speaker 1: I love them. 432 00:18:42,425 --> 00:18:45,105 Speaker 4: Sheets behind me. I love that. I've got test sheets. 433 00:18:45,145 --> 00:18:47,225 Speaker 4: There's a tear sheet there I've carried around for thirty years. 434 00:18:47,225 --> 00:18:47,745 Speaker 1: I love it. 435 00:18:48,065 --> 00:18:50,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing like just having sparking an idea from 436 00:18:50,865 --> 00:18:52,465 Speaker 2: a photo that's exactly. 437 00:18:52,185 --> 00:18:54,385 Speaker 4: Right, and it will often exactly get you thinking about 438 00:18:54,385 --> 00:18:57,665 Speaker 4: that and then something else from there, and just pull 439 00:18:57,745 --> 00:19:01,705 Speaker 4: together those references, those little inspo nuggets and then try 440 00:19:01,785 --> 00:19:05,025 Speaker 4: things on, photograph them, yeah, create a folder in your 441 00:19:05,025 --> 00:19:06,865 Speaker 4: phone and you've just got them all there. 442 00:19:07,025 --> 00:19:09,625 Speaker 2: And do shoes at this point as well. 443 00:19:09,825 --> 00:19:13,345 Speaker 4: Shoes, full outfit, full outfits. Honestly, often I'll be in 444 00:19:13,385 --> 00:19:15,345 Speaker 4: a change room with a client. They've got the outfit 445 00:19:15,425 --> 00:19:17,625 Speaker 4: on and they've left their socks on. I'm like, you've 446 00:19:17,625 --> 00:19:18,545 Speaker 4: got to joking. 447 00:19:18,905 --> 00:19:19,825 Speaker 1: Oh god, that's me. 448 00:19:19,945 --> 00:19:21,865 Speaker 2: I shop in active wear leggings and I just try 449 00:19:21,905 --> 00:19:23,265 Speaker 2: dresses on over leggings because I can't. 450 00:19:24,345 --> 00:19:27,385 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's absolutely not happening. So sorry, I'm like 451 00:19:27,465 --> 00:19:28,665 Speaker 4: the time, like the school too. 452 00:19:28,745 --> 00:19:31,265 Speaker 1: No, it's true, because then you think something works in 453 00:19:31,305 --> 00:19:31,625 Speaker 1: your head. 454 00:19:31,665 --> 00:19:33,625 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday morning, you're running late, and then the shoes 455 00:19:33,625 --> 00:19:34,825 Speaker 2: don't look good and you're like, oh buck it. You 456 00:19:34,905 --> 00:19:36,745 Speaker 2: rip everything off and chuck on your boring black outfit. 457 00:19:36,985 --> 00:19:39,465 Speaker 4: So take that extra sort of twenty minutes on Sunday 458 00:19:39,745 --> 00:19:41,905 Speaker 4: to map it out in your brain, find your shoes, 459 00:19:41,945 --> 00:19:43,665 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, I promise you, once 460 00:19:43,705 --> 00:19:46,505 Speaker 4: you start, things start making sense and it sort of 461 00:19:46,745 --> 00:19:47,585 Speaker 4: is self fulfilling. 462 00:19:47,705 --> 00:19:48,385 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean. 463 00:19:48,425 --> 00:19:51,065 Speaker 2: I know it's November now, but we'll blink and it's Christmas. 464 00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:52,545 Speaker 2: This could be a good little project to do if 465 00:19:52,545 --> 00:19:54,425 Speaker 2: you've got some time off over Christmas and New Year's 466 00:19:54,465 --> 00:19:56,345 Speaker 2: have a play new orderbe it's kind of like a 467 00:19:56,385 --> 00:19:58,665 Speaker 2: New Year reset. And then even if you just start 468 00:19:58,705 --> 00:20:01,465 Speaker 2: with fifteen outfits you like, that'll help. 469 00:20:01,345 --> 00:20:03,185 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And it is often the time of 470 00:20:03,265 --> 00:20:04,945 Speaker 4: year where I do get the most calls because it 471 00:20:05,025 --> 00:20:07,585 Speaker 4: is that call to action to sort of start the year, refresh, 472 00:20:07,705 --> 00:20:10,985 Speaker 4: clean the slide, start again. And so think about all 473 00:20:10,985 --> 00:20:12,705 Speaker 4: the items that you're not wearing that are taking up 474 00:20:12,785 --> 00:20:15,305 Speaker 4: ninety percent that we talked about. You've had a great 475 00:20:15,345 --> 00:20:17,945 Speaker 4: time with those pieces, so how about we pass them 476 00:20:17,985 --> 00:20:19,625 Speaker 4: on to someone else who's going to get value. 477 00:20:19,705 --> 00:20:21,865 Speaker 2: And we're out of them, or you haven't and you 478 00:20:21,905 --> 00:20:24,705 Speaker 2: feel guilty and they're just sitting there making you feel bad. 479 00:20:24,745 --> 00:20:27,065 Speaker 2: So sell them, donate them, and get them out. 480 00:20:27,505 --> 00:20:30,585 Speaker 4: One hundred percent everyone wins in that situation. And I 481 00:20:30,625 --> 00:20:35,065 Speaker 4: love the increasing circular nature of fashion. That's just been 482 00:20:35,465 --> 00:20:38,745 Speaker 4: something that's fallen into my process over the last sort 483 00:20:38,745 --> 00:20:41,105 Speaker 4: of probably five years, and I love it. And often 484 00:20:41,625 --> 00:20:43,945 Speaker 4: at the wardrobe bought at stage I'm leaving. I left 485 00:20:43,945 --> 00:20:48,385 Speaker 4: a clients with twenty three garbage bags last weight. To 486 00:20:48,425 --> 00:20:51,505 Speaker 4: be fair, that was an old time peak because there 487 00:20:51,585 --> 00:20:53,865 Speaker 4: was a lot she'd had twenty years worth of things 488 00:20:53,865 --> 00:20:54,345 Speaker 4: in her work. 489 00:20:54,625 --> 00:20:57,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, but how fun your job sounds so fine? 490 00:20:58,225 --> 00:21:00,425 Speaker 4: Well, I just want to remind people fashion is so 491 00:21:00,505 --> 00:21:03,345 Speaker 4: not glamorous because at my age, I'm still lugging garbage 492 00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:05,385 Speaker 4: bags of clothes out of the back and the boot. 493 00:21:05,185 --> 00:21:08,865 Speaker 2: Of my car and scouring through dusty wardrobes and cupboards. 494 00:21:08,945 --> 00:21:09,425 Speaker 1: I love it. 495 00:21:09,745 --> 00:21:12,025 Speaker 4: I guess in summary, it's about what are the items 496 00:21:12,065 --> 00:21:13,865 Speaker 4: you already have? What are the new things we can 497 00:21:13,945 --> 00:21:16,625 Speaker 4: layer in to just give you a refreshed, renewed sense 498 00:21:16,625 --> 00:21:18,385 Speaker 4: of personal style, give you a little bit of a 499 00:21:18,425 --> 00:21:21,025 Speaker 4: pep in your step, because, let's be honest, new things 500 00:21:21,025 --> 00:21:24,185 Speaker 4: and shopping and sparkling new things is exciting and unlocks 501 00:21:24,225 --> 00:21:26,305 Speaker 4: that dopamine and we all feel good about that. How 502 00:21:26,345 --> 00:21:28,905 Speaker 4: do we keep that balanced? And then how do we 503 00:21:28,945 --> 00:21:31,065 Speaker 4: make getting dressed joyful again? For a lot of women 504 00:21:31,065 --> 00:21:33,745 Speaker 4: getting dressed it's just a chore that is negative and 505 00:21:33,945 --> 00:21:37,305 Speaker 4: not great. I want to make women feel good about 506 00:21:37,705 --> 00:21:39,945 Speaker 4: how they look when they are out there in the world, 507 00:21:39,985 --> 00:21:42,625 Speaker 4: presenting the best version of themselves. I know people say 508 00:21:42,625 --> 00:21:45,465 Speaker 4: clothes and fashion is vacuous and shallow, but funnily enough, 509 00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:48,065 Speaker 4: it's a tool that helps us present the best version 510 00:21:48,065 --> 00:21:48,625 Speaker 4: of ourself. 511 00:21:48,905 --> 00:21:52,065 Speaker 2: Agrees present the best version of ourselfs and just feel 512 00:21:52,105 --> 00:21:55,665 Speaker 2: happy and confident and feel good. Now, Anthea, we're about 513 00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:58,145 Speaker 2: to jump into bougie and budget. But first, if our 514 00:21:58,185 --> 00:22:00,465 Speaker 2: listeners want to find out more of your tips about 515 00:22:00,465 --> 00:22:01,945 Speaker 2: your services, where can they find you? 516 00:22:02,385 --> 00:22:04,745 Speaker 4: They can have a look at my Instagram at Theior 517 00:22:04,825 --> 00:22:07,945 Speaker 4: O'Connor and my page is called the Fashion Edit, but 518 00:22:08,025 --> 00:22:11,585 Speaker 4: it's under my name and also my site anthoconnor dot com. 519 00:22:11,625 --> 00:22:14,425 Speaker 4: So I've got a lot of information about how i 520 00:22:14,505 --> 00:22:16,945 Speaker 4: work with my clients and my services on my website, 521 00:22:16,985 --> 00:22:18,225 Speaker 4: so a bit more detail then. 522 00:22:29,145 --> 00:22:32,345 Speaker 1: It's very expensive, Damney, how wondred these. 523 00:22:34,945 --> 00:22:36,985 Speaker 2: Bougie and budget So sticking to the theme of sort 524 00:22:36,985 --> 00:22:41,385 Speaker 2: of blueprint personal style uniform, I am going to shock 525 00:22:41,425 --> 00:22:43,945 Speaker 2: you because I'm normally jeans and a T shirt. But 526 00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:46,505 Speaker 2: we're heading into the humid Sydney weather. So I've got 527 00:22:46,625 --> 00:22:49,825 Speaker 2: what is my sort of style uniform for summer. I've 528 00:22:49,825 --> 00:22:53,025 Speaker 2: got a more expensive skirt and a more affordable tank. 529 00:22:53,185 --> 00:22:55,025 Speaker 2: But do you want to go first with your boogie 530 00:22:55,105 --> 00:22:55,745 Speaker 2: or your budget. 531 00:22:56,185 --> 00:22:59,545 Speaker 4: A bougie item worth the investment is a blazer for 532 00:22:59,705 --> 00:23:01,825 Speaker 4: me now, I am from Melbourne, so really we are 533 00:23:01,825 --> 00:23:04,425 Speaker 4: wearing blazers three hundred and sixty out of three sixty five. 534 00:23:05,025 --> 00:23:08,345 Speaker 4: And I won fashion Salotto last year when I was 535 00:23:08,385 --> 00:23:11,705 Speaker 4: in London and I found a Saline blazer for sixty 536 00:23:11,705 --> 00:23:15,705 Speaker 4: percent off. In my eyes, thank you fashion On. 537 00:23:16,385 --> 00:23:18,385 Speaker 1: That's your good fashion Calma coming back to you. 538 00:23:19,145 --> 00:23:22,145 Speaker 4: So that's been just an absolute winner and I love 539 00:23:22,185 --> 00:23:24,065 Speaker 4: it and I'll wear it forever. And it was a 540 00:23:24,065 --> 00:23:25,905 Speaker 4: bit different to what I'd normally buy, but it all 541 00:23:25,985 --> 00:23:28,665 Speaker 4: just fell into place. I love it. So bougie blazers 542 00:23:28,745 --> 00:23:32,145 Speaker 4: are worth the spend. It's certainly worth buying as well 543 00:23:32,185 --> 00:23:34,785 Speaker 4: as you can in that category. In that space, get 544 00:23:34,785 --> 00:23:37,265 Speaker 4: a great cut, a great style that works for your 545 00:23:37,265 --> 00:23:39,345 Speaker 4: body shape, that you feel good in and it's going 546 00:23:39,425 --> 00:23:41,585 Speaker 4: to go the distance. So tick worth the. 547 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:43,665 Speaker 2: Money, I think, particularly because when you throw on a 548 00:23:43,665 --> 00:23:45,625 Speaker 2: blazer to it just makes you feel powerful, like it 549 00:23:45,705 --> 00:23:46,665 Speaker 2: is a power item. 550 00:23:46,705 --> 00:23:47,745 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but. 551 00:23:47,985 --> 00:23:51,225 Speaker 4: Well it makes you feel pulled together and polish and 552 00:23:51,305 --> 00:23:53,025 Speaker 4: like you've sort of finished the job. 553 00:23:53,145 --> 00:23:55,785 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, that's a good way to put it and 554 00:23:55,785 --> 00:23:56,625 Speaker 2: what's your budget? 555 00:23:57,225 --> 00:23:59,865 Speaker 4: Okay, well the budget and no surprise, here is a 556 00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:02,705 Speaker 4: white T shirt and my current favorite is the Cause 557 00:24:02,985 --> 00:24:04,145 Speaker 4: clean cut T shirt. 558 00:24:04,305 --> 00:24:06,145 Speaker 1: Heaven, that's such a good tea. 559 00:24:06,185 --> 00:24:08,385 Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like i'dt on a tea band, but 560 00:24:08,425 --> 00:24:10,185 Speaker 2: every time I just see a good tea, I can't 561 00:24:10,225 --> 00:24:10,745 Speaker 2: not buy it. 562 00:24:10,825 --> 00:24:12,865 Speaker 4: Well, I now have a wardrobe of white T shirt, 563 00:24:12,945 --> 00:24:14,865 Speaker 4: so you know, please to say not a full war 564 00:24:14,905 --> 00:24:17,265 Speaker 4: drovere blazers. It's a wardrobe of white shirt. And they 565 00:24:17,305 --> 00:24:19,745 Speaker 4: all do different things, right, So they do different way 566 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:23,345 Speaker 4: of fabric, different neckline, sleep, they all do little different 567 00:24:23,385 --> 00:24:26,865 Speaker 4: things can justify a few. But that Couse T shirt 568 00:24:26,945 --> 00:24:30,145 Speaker 4: is my new current fave and it's probably be sold out, 569 00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:32,265 Speaker 4: but you know at the end of this season, because 570 00:24:32,265 --> 00:24:32,945 Speaker 4: I've told that. 571 00:24:32,865 --> 00:24:35,225 Speaker 2: Many people make sure you stuck up before you tell 572 00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:38,505 Speaker 2: anyone else. Well, speaking of Cause, my bougie is from Cosh. 573 00:24:38,505 --> 00:24:42,025 Speaker 2: Oh good, it's the Maxi slip skirt. Yes, because I 574 00:24:42,065 --> 00:24:44,865 Speaker 2: love a slipskirt and a tank or a white tea, 575 00:24:45,145 --> 00:24:48,025 Speaker 2: especially it's quite humid here in summer in Sydney, and 576 00:24:48,065 --> 00:24:49,425 Speaker 2: also perimenopause. 577 00:24:49,465 --> 00:24:50,185 Speaker 1: I'm getting hot. 578 00:24:51,425 --> 00:24:53,945 Speaker 2: I run hot, I run hot, so I'm normally jeans 579 00:24:53,945 --> 00:24:55,665 Speaker 2: and a tea. But my kind of version of that 580 00:24:55,865 --> 00:24:58,265 Speaker 2: is a slip skirt. But the reason I love this 581 00:24:58,305 --> 00:25:01,265 Speaker 2: one is it's fully lined. Yes, because I don't want 582 00:25:01,305 --> 00:25:03,665 Speaker 2: that cheap sort of satin that snap clings to all 583 00:25:03,665 --> 00:25:06,065 Speaker 2: your boulders and your undies. This is fully lined. It 584 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:09,945 Speaker 2: comes in a light sort of blue, dusty color. It's 585 00:25:09,985 --> 00:25:13,145 Speaker 2: not that kind of kid like baby blue. It's a mature, 586 00:25:13,265 --> 00:25:17,385 Speaker 2: light blue, fully lined silk and cotton. It's two hundred 587 00:25:17,425 --> 00:25:19,025 Speaker 2: and fifteen dollars. So you can definitely get a lot 588 00:25:19,025 --> 00:25:21,385 Speaker 2: more affordable slip skirts. You know, you can get good 589 00:25:21,425 --> 00:25:24,225 Speaker 2: affordable ones, but you can also get nasty ones, nice 590 00:25:24,425 --> 00:25:26,705 Speaker 2: not too high, slid up the side, but enough that 591 00:25:26,745 --> 00:25:27,305 Speaker 2: you can walk. 592 00:25:27,865 --> 00:25:29,705 Speaker 1: Yes, you gotta be able to walk. 593 00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:33,785 Speaker 2: So I love that flat heels, sneakers, honestly, anything with that, 594 00:25:34,265 --> 00:25:36,305 Speaker 2: all of it. And then I'm putting with that. I've 595 00:25:36,345 --> 00:25:37,985 Speaker 2: actually got to this in two colors. It's a bit 596 00:25:38,065 --> 00:25:40,585 Speaker 2: like your tea. It's h and M Nit Tank thirty 597 00:25:40,625 --> 00:25:44,185 Speaker 2: four ninety nine. It looks like a good old Bonds singlet, 598 00:25:44,225 --> 00:25:47,745 Speaker 2: but it's a thicker ribbed knit whereby the straps are 599 00:25:47,745 --> 00:25:48,545 Speaker 2: thick enough to wear a bra. 600 00:25:48,665 --> 00:25:50,785 Speaker 1: It comes in black, white, beige, and red. 601 00:25:51,265 --> 00:25:53,785 Speaker 4: I'm making notes because I'm buying that. We hang up. 602 00:25:53,825 --> 00:25:55,505 Speaker 1: It is just such a good basic tank. 603 00:25:55,625 --> 00:25:57,945 Speaker 2: You could wear that with a lovely wide leg pant 604 00:25:58,025 --> 00:26:02,305 Speaker 2: and a heel, your jeans, shorts, your blazer, your chuck 605 00:26:02,345 --> 00:26:02,865 Speaker 2: on a shirt. 606 00:26:02,865 --> 00:26:03,025 Speaker 3: You know. 607 00:26:03,065 --> 00:26:04,865 Speaker 2: It's just one of those really good all rounders. So 608 00:26:05,025 --> 00:26:10,225 Speaker 2: that's my blueprint for this summer, mixing it up perfect. 609 00:26:10,225 --> 00:26:12,025 Speaker 4: And can I just add around that tank? 610 00:26:12,265 --> 00:26:12,425 Speaker 2: Yes? 611 00:26:12,625 --> 00:26:14,425 Speaker 4: Can you sort of move out of a cotton tank 612 00:26:15,545 --> 00:26:18,145 Speaker 4: cotton tank into that more of a knit tank all 613 00:26:18,145 --> 00:26:20,385 Speaker 4: of a sudden. That feels like a dressier top, you know, 614 00:26:20,505 --> 00:26:25,385 Speaker 4: that's it a nice top concept. Yes, then goes back 615 00:26:25,425 --> 00:26:28,105 Speaker 4: into the whole, back with your jeans, back with your 616 00:26:28,185 --> 00:26:31,225 Speaker 4: jean shorts, back with knee length denim jean shorts that 617 00:26:31,265 --> 00:26:31,905 Speaker 4: we're seeing a lot of. 618 00:26:32,785 --> 00:26:33,425 Speaker 1: That's it. 619 00:26:33,545 --> 00:26:35,145 Speaker 4: It's going to roll out one hundred ways. 620 00:26:35,265 --> 00:26:37,145 Speaker 2: Yes, But then you know, beautiful like I've got like 621 00:26:37,185 --> 00:26:39,865 Speaker 2: a cream pair of wide leg pants, like I could 622 00:26:39,945 --> 00:26:41,665 Speaker 2: check on a heel and go somewhere quite fancy with 623 00:26:41,705 --> 00:26:43,385 Speaker 2: that tank. And I like that the cut looks like 624 00:26:43,385 --> 00:26:46,425 Speaker 2: a traditional white singlet, but the knit just brings up 625 00:26:46,465 --> 00:26:48,585 Speaker 2: that elevation and it's thirty five bucks. 626 00:26:48,665 --> 00:26:51,065 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I'm just going to be jumping on there 627 00:26:51,065 --> 00:26:51,945 Speaker 4: in the minute, will anthe. 628 00:26:52,025 --> 00:26:53,905 Speaker 2: I think we should go on and buy each other's 629 00:26:53,905 --> 00:26:55,825 Speaker 2: purchasers before we tell the whole world. 630 00:26:56,385 --> 00:26:58,545 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. I love the blueprint. 631 00:26:58,625 --> 00:26:59,905 Speaker 2: I've got it in my head, but I'm going to 632 00:26:59,945 --> 00:27:01,745 Speaker 2: go home and do it physically because I know my 633 00:27:01,825 --> 00:27:03,705 Speaker 2: style uniform. I'm a bit of a chameleon. But at 634 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,585 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I know what's going to 635 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:07,665 Speaker 2: be on that first rack you do, and. 636 00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,865 Speaker 4: I think it's just about taking that formal step to 637 00:27:09,905 --> 00:27:12,625 Speaker 4: moving all the other stuff on, just conceding that these 638 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:13,665 Speaker 4: are the pieces you wear. 639 00:27:13,745 --> 00:27:15,545 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, the truth is you. 640 00:27:15,505 --> 00:27:17,505 Speaker 4: Don't need a lot in the end. That's the thing. 641 00:27:17,625 --> 00:27:20,025 Speaker 4: If you get rid of the clutter, the liberating feeling. 642 00:27:20,185 --> 00:27:21,865 Speaker 4: And I see it with my clients. The minute we 643 00:27:21,905 --> 00:27:26,265 Speaker 4: move the volume out, everyone's shoulders go down, things become clearer, 644 00:27:26,505 --> 00:27:29,025 Speaker 4: things become more joyful as we talked about, and it 645 00:27:29,065 --> 00:27:32,105 Speaker 4: all becomes a lot easier, and we've sort of untangled 646 00:27:32,145 --> 00:27:35,505 Speaker 4: the little sort of not fashion my wardrobe and how 647 00:27:35,545 --> 00:27:36,985 Speaker 4: I get dressed. It all just sort of. 648 00:27:37,065 --> 00:27:38,505 Speaker 1: I love it. It's so true. 649 00:27:38,505 --> 00:27:38,705 Speaker 4: It is. 650 00:27:38,745 --> 00:27:41,105 Speaker 2: It's simple. We make things hard for ourselves. Anthea, thank 651 00:27:41,105 --> 00:27:42,785 Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. I will be having 652 00:27:42,785 --> 00:27:44,585 Speaker 2: you back soon because you're a wealth of knowledge. 653 00:27:44,745 --> 00:27:46,665 Speaker 4: Oh you're the best Leade. Thank you for having me. 654 00:27:46,705 --> 00:27:47,905 Speaker 4: It's been a lot of fun. 655 00:27:48,305 --> 00:27:50,865 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget 656 00:27:50,865 --> 00:27:52,905 Speaker 2: to sign up to the Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's 657 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:55,025 Speaker 2: a link in the show notes and it is free. 658 00:27:55,585 --> 00:27:58,145 Speaker 2: And if you have enjoyed this episode and it has 659 00:27:58,225 --> 00:28:00,705 Speaker 2: inspired you to shop your own wardrobe, you can listen 660 00:28:00,745 --> 00:28:03,345 Speaker 2: to our episode on the six new season looks you've 661 00:28:03,385 --> 00:28:05,345 Speaker 2: already owned. There's a link in the show notes so 662 00:28:05,385 --> 00:28:08,425 Speaker 2: that too. See you next week. 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