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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano.

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Speaker 3: This is mum Me's twice daily news podcast, The Quickie.

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Speaker 2: Did Donald Trump Just Go?

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Speaker 3: Star? Prime Minister Anthony Alberinezi was left hanging at the

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Speaker 3: G seven summit when Trump made an early exit, But.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't all loss.

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Speaker 3: Plus forget your gut health, what about.

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Speaker 2: Your social biome?

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Speaker 3: Don't worry, We'll explain before we get there. Here's Claire

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Speaker 3: Murphy with the latest from the QUICKI News room for Thursday,

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Speaker 3: June nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Alleged mushroom killer Aaron Patterson's barrister will make

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Speaker 1: a final push today to convince Duras his client did

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Speaker 1: not intentionally serve beef Wellington's laced with death cap mushrooms.

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Speaker 1: Colin Mandy is expected to finish his closing address today

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Speaker 1: after two days of arguing Patterson is innocent of three

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Speaker 1: counts of murder and of attempted murder. Prosecutors alleged Patterson

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Speaker 1: intentionally poisoned her former in laws Don and Gail Patterson.

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Speaker 1: Gail's sister Heather, and Heather's husband, Ian Wilkinson, in was

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Speaker 1: the only survivor from the two couples. Mister Mandy argued

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Speaker 1: that while Patterson told lies before and after the lunch,

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Speaker 1: that did not mean she was guilty of murder and

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Speaker 1: she had no motive to kill any of her guests.

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Speaker 1: He accepted her lie about having cancer was stupid, but

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Speaker 1: said she made it up to conceal her plans to

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Speaker 1: undergo weight loss procedures. Mister Mandy denied the cancer lie

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Speaker 1: was a ruse to bring the guests into her home,

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Speaker 1: as she told the lie at the end of the meal,

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Speaker 1: once the beef Wellington's had been eaten. The barrister told

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Speaker 1: the jury his client also ate the poisoned meal, but

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Speaker 1: her younger age, heavier weight, and decision to throw up

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Speaker 1: afterwards meant her symptoms were less severe. Pointing to scientific

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Speaker 1: research from Germany which showed people could respond differently when

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Speaker 1: Patterson saw posts about death cap locations in the Gippsland

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Speaker 1: the mushrooms, telling the jury there was no evidence Patterson

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Speaker 1: saw the Iron Naturalist posts from April and May twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, and that cell tower data only suggested she

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Speaker 1: Once mister Mandy finishes his closing address, Justice Christopher Biale

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Speaker 1: the shooting death of another Rossie in Bali. Zivan Radmanovitch

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Speaker 1: now detained three men, who are all Australian nationals, who

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Speaker 1: charges including premeditated murder, which if found guilty, could see

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Speaker 1: whether he's decided to order a US strike on Iran,

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Speaker 1: a move that Iranian officials warned would be met with retaliation.

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Speaker 1: Speaking outside the White House, Trump declined to say whether

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Speaker 1: he'd made any decision on whether to join Israel's bombing

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Speaker 1: Defense Minister Israel Katz, saying, as we promised, we will

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Speaker 3: Next from the G seven Summit, Anthony Alberanezi has just

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Speaker 3: because remember, Australia is not part of the G seven

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Speaker 3: a perfect opportunity for Albo to talk to Trump about

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Speaker 3: his rising tariffs and recent review into Orcus. By the way,

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Speaker 3: if you want to know more about that, we've already

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Speaker 3: And like many of those in the dating trenches, Albow

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't all the loss.

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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister managed to squeeze in some quality time

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Speaker 3: out Australia's stance on tariffs and pushing for more action

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Speaker 4: So not a.

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Speaker 4: We're see in President Trump's second administration a somewhat sort

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Speaker 3: He's called for Iran's unconditional surrender and made it clear

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Speaker 3: this be the moment for a new nuclear deal with Iran? Maybe,

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Speaker 3: But after Israel's attack killed Iran's lead negotiator, trust is

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Speaker 3: the QUICKI and in our evening headlines. How's your social biome?

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Speaker 3: If you're thinking my social word.

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Speaker 2: Now you're not alone.

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Speaker 3: The New York Times has dropped a quiz that's got

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Speaker 3: everyone examining their friendships like their specimens under a microscope.

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Speaker 3: The concept comes from researchers who argue that just like

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Speaker 3: our gut needs diverse bacteria to stay healthy, our social

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Speaker 3: Apparently, a diverse social biome isn't just denis to have.

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Speaker 3: It's essential from mental and physical health. So maybe it's

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Speaker 3: time we did a little social biome checkup. Are you

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Speaker 3: both to thrive. Mamami, your podcast host m Vernon recently

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Speaker 5: So the term social biome was coined by these communication

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we're always told to like nurture your relationships,

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Speaker 5: So they came up with five elements that you need

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Speaker 5: So like, how diverse are the people that you're friends

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Speaker 5: one is restorative solitude, So what are you like when

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Speaker 5: like social interactment through social media. The next one is

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Speaker 5: Are you comfortable saying hi to people? You're comfortable having

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Speaker 6: Things like that. I think these key elements.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited to hear results a lot about us.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go first?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I did the quiz and I feel like

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Speaker 5: much the complete opposite of what I thought. No way,

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Speaker 5: I was labeled as a lone wolf. Really, and it's

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Speaker 6: And this sounds like a full ad for the social prime.

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Speaker 5: And I actually don't remember. Okay, I haven't actually been

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Speaker 3: But are you constantly surrounded by those people? So it's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not going deep.

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Speaker 5: I do avoid conversations more now than I used to before.

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Speaker 5: When there's a bit of conflict happening, like I kind

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Speaker 5: I do really value my alone time as well, but

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Speaker 5: And I always thought that when I go home, that's

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really honed.

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Speaker 5: They gave me a list. They gave me a list

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Speaker 5: read a book. Okay, what did you get?

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Speaker 3: I thought that I was pretty well socialized, and according

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Speaker 3: I think you're right, and people listening like, maybe you

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Speaker 2: Or the inverse.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you work solo and your only social interaction is

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's hard.

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Speaker 5: I think what I hate about these kind of quizzes

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Speaker 5: you always put it in the back pocket, like you're like,

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Speaker 5: It is a bit of a hit in the gut,

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Speaker 6: My god, am I a bad friend? Probably not? But

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Speaker 5: And I feel like so many people should try this quiz,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to put a link to this in the

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Speaker 3: show notes for today's episode. If you want to jump

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Speaker 3: on and do your social biome quiz and then dm

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Speaker 3: us at the QUICKI on Instagram let me.

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Speaker 6: Know, especially if you're freaking out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well don't freak out. It's okay.

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Speaker 3: There might be room for improvement. EM and I have

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Speaker 3: accepted that and there might be for you as well,

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Speaker 3: But please do share at the QUICKI on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Thanks EM, Thank you, thanks.

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Speaker 3: For taking the time to feed your mind and maybe

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Speaker 3: your social biome with US today. The Quikie is produced

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