1 00:00:10,385 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,545 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded. 4 00:00:19,065 --> 00:00:21,425 Speaker 1: On Hey you bes lee here now. 5 00:00:21,465 --> 00:00:23,945 Speaker 2: For many of us, Sunday is for self care and 6 00:00:23,985 --> 00:00:27,025 Speaker 2: for me that includes planning my outfits for the week. 7 00:00:27,465 --> 00:00:29,865 Speaker 2: Nothing to Wear is dropping now in the U Beauty feed, 8 00:00:29,905 --> 00:00:31,705 Speaker 2: So if you need a little bit of outfit or 9 00:00:31,745 --> 00:00:33,505 Speaker 2: wardrobe inspo, have a listen. 10 00:00:36,185 --> 00:00:38,905 Speaker 3: Whoever said orange is the new pink with seriously disturb 11 00:00:39,145 --> 00:00:41,545 Speaker 3: laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 12 00:00:41,785 --> 00:00:44,105 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 13 00:00:44,185 --> 00:00:44,865 Speaker 1: for fashion. 14 00:00:45,825 --> 00:00:48,745 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 15 00:00:48,825 --> 00:00:51,785 Speaker 2: solves stussion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 16 00:00:52,065 --> 00:00:52,865 Speaker 1: I'm a chamberlan. 17 00:00:52,985 --> 00:00:55,385 Speaker 2: Every week I chat to an expert who helps us 18 00:00:55,425 --> 00:00:57,305 Speaker 2: work out how to get more out of the clothes 19 00:00:57,345 --> 00:01:00,505 Speaker 2: we already own and tells us exactly what is and 20 00:01:00,585 --> 00:01:03,505 Speaker 2: isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm chatting with 21 00:01:03,625 --> 00:01:08,465 Speaker 2: fashion expert Eva Gaalambers. She's the powerhouse behind Parlor X, 22 00:01:08,505 --> 00:01:12,025 Speaker 2: which is an iconic luxury fashion destination here in Sydney, 23 00:01:12,625 --> 00:01:15,825 Speaker 2: and her business has survived twenty five years. It's not 24 00:01:15,945 --> 00:01:19,905 Speaker 2: just about retail she's a visionary, she's a style master, 25 00:01:20,065 --> 00:01:22,625 Speaker 2: and she's going to talk us through curating a wardrobe 26 00:01:22,665 --> 00:01:26,705 Speaker 2: that she polished and comfortable, but also not super expensive. 27 00:01:26,785 --> 00:01:28,265 Speaker 2: You're not going to have to get a credit card 28 00:01:28,345 --> 00:01:31,225 Speaker 2: or mortgage your house. We're going to talk about choosing 29 00:01:31,265 --> 00:01:35,105 Speaker 2: the right fabrics and some few very clever little styling 30 00:01:35,185 --> 00:01:39,305 Speaker 2: hacks that will instantly elevate your outfit. Eva, thank you 31 00:01:39,305 --> 00:01:41,305 Speaker 2: for joining me. I said to you off air, I'm 32 00:01:41,305 --> 00:01:43,745 Speaker 2: a little bit scared, and you said, people often say 33 00:01:43,785 --> 00:01:46,745 Speaker 2: that it's because you own such a fancy store and 34 00:01:46,785 --> 00:01:49,585 Speaker 2: a fancy brand. And I must say I was looking 35 00:01:49,585 --> 00:01:51,225 Speaker 2: for a fortieth thress a few years ago and I 36 00:01:51,265 --> 00:01:53,505 Speaker 2: went into Parlor X and I didn't find it there. 37 00:01:53,545 --> 00:01:57,065 Speaker 2: But this stuff was so welcoming, so friendly, so helpful. 38 00:01:57,265 --> 00:01:59,185 Speaker 2: So we don't need to be scared, right. 39 00:01:59,345 --> 00:02:00,545 Speaker 1: No, definitely much. 40 00:02:00,945 --> 00:02:04,185 Speaker 2: It's a misconception. I understand where it may stem from, 41 00:02:04,465 --> 00:02:06,345 Speaker 2: but it is a misconception. And at the end of 42 00:02:06,385 --> 00:02:08,785 Speaker 2: the day, the most important thing for me within the 43 00:02:08,785 --> 00:02:12,585 Speaker 2: context of my business is to always provide exemporary service 44 00:02:12,705 --> 00:02:15,825 Speaker 2: because our repeat clients is the most important aspect of 45 00:02:15,825 --> 00:02:16,425 Speaker 2: our business. 46 00:02:16,465 --> 00:02:17,825 Speaker 1: Well, I left feeling great. 47 00:02:17,945 --> 00:02:20,945 Speaker 2: Now we're here to talk a whole bunch of different things, luxury, 48 00:02:21,305 --> 00:02:23,425 Speaker 2: how to look polished, how to not have to mortgage 49 00:02:23,425 --> 00:02:25,145 Speaker 2: our houses. But first I want to start with you. 50 00:02:25,505 --> 00:02:28,545 Speaker 2: Can you describe your own personal style in three words? 51 00:02:28,945 --> 00:02:33,745 Speaker 2: Three words is difficult, but I will try. Creative, confident, 52 00:02:34,265 --> 00:02:37,945 Speaker 2: and polished, love creative. We've not had creative before, I 53 00:02:37,985 --> 00:02:39,865 Speaker 2: don't think. And that's such a good one because it 54 00:02:39,985 --> 00:02:43,265 Speaker 2: paints a picture, but could mean something different to everyone exactly. Okay, 55 00:02:43,305 --> 00:02:45,185 Speaker 2: The theory that rings pretty true for a lot of 56 00:02:45,185 --> 00:02:47,865 Speaker 2: people is that we have a whole wardrobe, but there's 57 00:02:48,145 --> 00:02:50,545 Speaker 2: ninety percent that we like and wear, but then there's 58 00:02:50,585 --> 00:02:54,225 Speaker 2: ten percent that we just rely on wash where love. 59 00:02:54,545 --> 00:02:57,225 Speaker 2: What's in your ten percent that's your most loved, most 60 00:02:57,265 --> 00:03:01,545 Speaker 2: you stuff. Okay, so I'm going to tone down the 61 00:03:01,585 --> 00:03:03,745 Speaker 2: answer to this because, as you can imagine, I probably 62 00:03:03,745 --> 00:03:05,625 Speaker 2: own a little bit more than what your average person 63 00:03:05,665 --> 00:03:07,225 Speaker 2: owns because it goes with the territory. 64 00:03:07,385 --> 00:03:07,945 Speaker 1: It's the job. 65 00:03:07,985 --> 00:03:11,425 Speaker 2: But for me, the number one on key piece is 66 00:03:11,865 --> 00:03:15,665 Speaker 2: a black blazer. I do own Motolpis, but my suggestion 67 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:21,505 Speaker 2: to anybody would be to own one well made, beautifully 68 00:03:21,505 --> 00:03:25,225 Speaker 2: crafted black blazer because that could last in your wardrobe 69 00:03:25,225 --> 00:03:27,465 Speaker 2: for over twenty years, and why do you reach for 70 00:03:27,545 --> 00:03:29,105 Speaker 2: yours or one of yours all the time? 71 00:03:29,145 --> 00:03:30,105 Speaker 1: What are you pairing it with? 72 00:03:30,505 --> 00:03:34,185 Speaker 2: Well? To be honest, I use my blazer more often 73 00:03:34,185 --> 00:03:37,185 Speaker 2: than not when I want to polish an outfit or 74 00:03:37,225 --> 00:03:40,385 Speaker 2: make sure that it looks tailored. So sometimes I'll also 75 00:03:40,465 --> 00:03:43,705 Speaker 2: juxtaposition it. So if I'm wearing something particularly casual and 76 00:03:43,745 --> 00:03:45,785 Speaker 2: then I want to look smart, I'll add a black 77 00:03:45,825 --> 00:03:48,105 Speaker 2: blazer to it. So for me, the blazer is an 78 00:03:48,105 --> 00:03:52,505 Speaker 2: element of tailoring that is just completely necessary to make 79 00:03:52,585 --> 00:03:55,705 Speaker 2: any outfit look sophisticated. Love it, No, I'm thinking what 80 00:03:55,825 --> 00:03:58,465 Speaker 2: black blazers I've got before we jump into the rest 81 00:03:58,505 --> 00:04:00,825 Speaker 2: of the episode, anything else that you just love? Where 82 00:04:01,305 --> 00:04:04,545 Speaker 2: are you a jeans girl? I'm not the hugest jeans girl. 83 00:04:04,585 --> 00:04:06,745 Speaker 2: I sometimes wear jeans, but very very rarely. And when 84 00:04:06,785 --> 00:04:09,745 Speaker 2: I do wear jeans, they're tailored, they're high waist and 85 00:04:09,785 --> 00:04:12,665 Speaker 2: their wide leg. I don't wear them in a casual way, 86 00:04:13,185 --> 00:04:16,505 Speaker 2: and I will wear them when I'm feeling like I 87 00:04:16,545 --> 00:04:19,665 Speaker 2: want to tone a blue outfit together. So it's kind 88 00:04:19,665 --> 00:04:22,065 Speaker 2: of tied into more of a color theme than it is. 89 00:04:22,185 --> 00:04:25,305 Speaker 2: More the fabric, yeah, than the utilitarian like exactlyans for 90 00:04:25,505 --> 00:04:26,905 Speaker 2: a running that's fascinating. 91 00:04:26,945 --> 00:04:29,385 Speaker 1: I like that. Gosh, I'll take any reason to wear jeans. 92 00:04:29,665 --> 00:04:32,505 Speaker 2: Now, many people in Sydney will know Parlor REX, but 93 00:04:32,545 --> 00:04:35,665 Speaker 2: for those who don't, you know, for our national international listeners, 94 00:04:35,705 --> 00:04:37,905 Speaker 2: what is parlor X? How did you get started? And 95 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:42,385 Speaker 2: how has a retail offering like yours survived these years 96 00:04:42,425 --> 00:04:45,945 Speaker 2: and decades of so much change. Okay, it's a massive 97 00:04:46,025 --> 00:04:49,465 Speaker 2: question that start with the bit about Parlor X and 98 00:04:49,545 --> 00:04:52,905 Speaker 2: who we are and how we came into being. I 99 00:04:52,985 --> 00:04:56,025 Speaker 2: created Parlor X over twenty years ago, so in fact 100 00:04:56,305 --> 00:04:59,625 Speaker 2: we'll be, you know, celebrating our twenty five years not 101 00:04:59,745 --> 00:05:00,425 Speaker 2: too far away. 102 00:05:01,065 --> 00:05:01,425 Speaker 1: Amazing. 103 00:05:01,545 --> 00:05:04,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have to say I am also marveling 104 00:05:04,185 --> 00:05:06,505 Speaker 2: at the fact that we're still in existence, given what's 105 00:05:06,625 --> 00:05:09,105 Speaker 2: gone on in the industry and the massive amount of changes. 106 00:05:09,345 --> 00:05:11,545 Speaker 2: But getting back to who we are and what we 107 00:05:11,625 --> 00:05:14,665 Speaker 2: stand for. Parlor X was created with the idea of 108 00:05:14,985 --> 00:05:21,505 Speaker 2: bringing to people a art gallery style appreciation of fashion 109 00:05:21,545 --> 00:05:24,665 Speaker 2: in the way that people normally appreciate art. So the 110 00:05:24,785 --> 00:05:27,905 Speaker 2: idea is that you will buy fashion that will appreciate 111 00:05:27,945 --> 00:05:31,625 Speaker 2: in value, stand the test of time, and have a 112 00:05:31,745 --> 00:05:36,185 Speaker 2: memory or a keynote story which could come from the 113 00:05:36,225 --> 00:05:40,265 Speaker 2: purchasing right through to the idea around purchasing. But it's 114 00:05:40,305 --> 00:05:44,865 Speaker 2: the idea that fashion and beautiful quality, beautifully made fashion 115 00:05:45,225 --> 00:05:47,945 Speaker 2: can be seen almost like art. And so the idea 116 00:05:48,025 --> 00:05:50,905 Speaker 2: was to present that to Sydney at a time when 117 00:05:51,225 --> 00:05:53,465 Speaker 2: the offering in Sydney was very limited. I mean this 118 00:05:53,585 --> 00:05:57,025 Speaker 2: is before online shopping, yes, or fast fashion, before social media. 119 00:05:57,265 --> 00:05:58,785 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well before amazing. 120 00:05:58,905 --> 00:06:01,785 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what influenced us back then was very different 121 00:06:01,825 --> 00:06:04,905 Speaker 2: to what influences us today obviously, but yeah, back then 122 00:06:05,145 --> 00:06:07,745 Speaker 2: the Sydney offering was limited, but it wasn't just that 123 00:06:07,985 --> 00:06:12,265 Speaker 2: everybody was bringing in designs a season behind and so 124 00:06:12,385 --> 00:06:16,545 Speaker 2: for those who travel frequently, they would then see what 125 00:06:16,825 --> 00:06:19,505 Speaker 2: is being passed off as new season as a season behind. 126 00:06:19,545 --> 00:06:20,825 Speaker 2: And a lot of that had to do with the 127 00:06:20,825 --> 00:06:24,505 Speaker 2: fact that it's Southern Hemisphere versus Northern Hemisphere climate. But 128 00:06:25,065 --> 00:06:28,225 Speaker 2: it was completely and totally doable and so that was 129 00:06:28,225 --> 00:06:31,185 Speaker 2: one of the most important aspects of starting Parlor X 130 00:06:31,225 --> 00:06:36,465 Speaker 2: and presenting current collections to the Australian clientele. Wow, that's amazing, 131 00:06:36,505 --> 00:06:38,865 Speaker 2: I know, because before we had the Internet. That sounds 132 00:06:38,985 --> 00:06:41,465 Speaker 2: like we're dinosaurs. We didn't have that transparency of what 133 00:06:41,505 --> 00:06:43,385 Speaker 2: was happening. We just things hit stores. We thought it 134 00:06:43,425 --> 00:06:44,665 Speaker 2: was new, and we bought it and you were like, 135 00:06:44,705 --> 00:06:47,465 Speaker 2: hang on, no, poor Australia, let's get them up to speed. 136 00:06:47,825 --> 00:06:50,465 Speaker 2: Now you have such a sharp eye for fashion, how 137 00:06:50,505 --> 00:06:54,505 Speaker 2: would you define your own style philosophy or shopping philosophy. 138 00:06:54,745 --> 00:06:57,665 Speaker 2: All of our wardrobes are only as big as they are, 139 00:06:57,985 --> 00:07:02,065 Speaker 2: so for me, when I acquire new pieces, it also 140 00:07:02,145 --> 00:07:05,905 Speaker 2: means I have to discard pieces, so I feel guilty 141 00:07:06,105 --> 00:07:09,065 Speaker 2: if I have too much or if I want to 142 00:07:09,105 --> 00:07:11,265 Speaker 2: take too my It makes me almost feel glutt in it. 143 00:07:11,385 --> 00:07:13,345 Speaker 2: So on the one hand, I want to celebrate my 144 00:07:13,425 --> 00:07:16,465 Speaker 2: word rewards with acquiring beautiful pieces because that's what we 145 00:07:16,545 --> 00:07:18,105 Speaker 2: do and it makes us feel good. But on the 146 00:07:18,145 --> 00:07:21,345 Speaker 2: other hand, there's a circular element to that, and that 147 00:07:21,545 --> 00:07:24,065 Speaker 2: is that I need to discard anything that I don't 148 00:07:24,185 --> 00:07:26,985 Speaker 2: wear often enough or that doesn't feel like it represents 149 00:07:26,985 --> 00:07:30,185 Speaker 2: who I am anymore. So I guess there's certain pieces 150 00:07:30,185 --> 00:07:32,785 Speaker 2: in my wardrobe that have been there, certain looks and 151 00:07:32,785 --> 00:07:34,945 Speaker 2: certain fields, and to be honest with you, certain brands. 152 00:07:35,585 --> 00:07:38,105 Speaker 2: And we go back to when I described my personal 153 00:07:38,105 --> 00:07:41,065 Speaker 2: style as creative. So there are certain brands that are 154 00:07:41,105 --> 00:07:45,105 Speaker 2: extremely creative that I consider it to be extremely creative. 155 00:07:45,105 --> 00:07:48,465 Speaker 2: And I still have pieces for thirty years, and some 156 00:07:48,585 --> 00:07:51,745 Speaker 2: of these brands even go into their archives and recreate, 157 00:07:51,785 --> 00:07:53,625 Speaker 2: and some of the pieces aren't even as good as 158 00:07:53,665 --> 00:07:55,865 Speaker 2: what they were at the very beginning. But I still 159 00:07:55,905 --> 00:07:57,505 Speaker 2: stuck a lot of those brands and a lot of 160 00:07:57,505 --> 00:08:00,585 Speaker 2: those collections. So it's a building block. So I see 161 00:08:00,625 --> 00:08:04,225 Speaker 2: my wardrobe as a constant building block, as a constant outlet, 162 00:08:04,345 --> 00:08:08,105 Speaker 2: so to speak, of just building from previous seasons and 163 00:08:08,225 --> 00:08:09,305 Speaker 2: previous collections. 164 00:08:09,385 --> 00:08:10,305 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 165 00:08:10,385 --> 00:08:12,425 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. I want to comply in your wardrobe. 166 00:08:12,545 --> 00:08:15,865 Speaker 2: Now you've built this incredible career in fashion. I also 167 00:08:15,945 --> 00:08:17,625 Speaker 2: wonder do you feel the pressure or is there a 168 00:08:17,625 --> 00:08:20,465 Speaker 2: pressure to always look good because you aren such an 169 00:08:20,465 --> 00:08:22,865 Speaker 2: incredible fashion brand. But from all of that, have you 170 00:08:22,985 --> 00:08:25,585 Speaker 2: learned any tips or tricks for dressing well no matter 171 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:29,905 Speaker 2: the occasion. It's funny, I don't feel pressure from anybody 172 00:08:29,905 --> 00:08:33,625 Speaker 2: else other than myself. So I don't feel good about 173 00:08:33,665 --> 00:08:37,065 Speaker 2: myself unless I feel that I look good. So looking 174 00:08:37,065 --> 00:08:39,345 Speaker 2: good is important to me. And I understand that every 175 00:08:39,345 --> 00:08:42,385 Speaker 2: person has their priorities in life, and we're all extremely busy, 176 00:08:42,665 --> 00:08:46,745 Speaker 2: whether we're raising children, or we're juggling jobs, or you know, 177 00:08:46,905 --> 00:08:49,505 Speaker 2: just juggling life. In general, we're all very busy. So 178 00:08:49,545 --> 00:08:53,385 Speaker 2: we make sacrifices according to time, and we decide what's 179 00:08:53,385 --> 00:08:56,465 Speaker 2: a priority to us. And for me, looking good is 180 00:08:56,505 --> 00:08:59,545 Speaker 2: a priority because it's completely tied into how I feel 181 00:08:59,585 --> 00:09:01,745 Speaker 2: about myself and my sense of self worth and my 182 00:09:01,825 --> 00:09:05,225 Speaker 2: sense of fulfillment and my sense of success. So for me, 183 00:09:05,825 --> 00:09:07,705 Speaker 2: when I look in the mirror, if I'm not happy 184 00:09:07,705 --> 00:09:09,305 Speaker 2: with what I see, if I'm not happy with how 185 00:09:09,305 --> 00:09:11,545 Speaker 2: I'm prison denting myself, I will take that little bit 186 00:09:11,585 --> 00:09:13,945 Speaker 2: of extra time to make sure that whatever it is, 187 00:09:14,025 --> 00:09:16,105 Speaker 2: I spruce up so that when I walk out that door, 188 00:09:16,225 --> 00:09:18,465 Speaker 2: I feel presentable in the way that I want to 189 00:09:18,505 --> 00:09:20,585 Speaker 2: be presented. And when you say looking good, you mean 190 00:09:20,585 --> 00:09:23,225 Speaker 2: looking good for yourself, going I feel like for me, 191 00:09:23,545 --> 00:09:26,385 Speaker 2: I feel like this makes me feel powerful look, you know, 192 00:09:26,585 --> 00:09:27,785 Speaker 2: going back to the creative thing. 193 00:09:28,065 --> 00:09:29,185 Speaker 1: I don't dress for everybody. 194 00:09:29,305 --> 00:09:32,385 Speaker 2: You know, my personal style is unique to me and 195 00:09:32,465 --> 00:09:35,625 Speaker 2: there are a lot of stars and also silhouettes that 196 00:09:35,705 --> 00:09:38,625 Speaker 2: I wear that people are often shocked at, you know, 197 00:09:38,745 --> 00:09:39,265 Speaker 2: or surprised. 198 00:09:39,265 --> 00:09:41,385 Speaker 1: When I say shocked, I'm not wacky in any way. 199 00:09:41,385 --> 00:09:46,505 Speaker 2: But for example, I have oversized and voluminous clothing is 200 00:09:46,625 --> 00:09:49,945 Speaker 2: very much part of my staple dressing. And I'm not 201 00:09:49,945 --> 00:09:53,305 Speaker 2: actually a very big person, but I regardless, I like 202 00:09:53,625 --> 00:09:56,305 Speaker 2: dressing in clothes that are quite voluminous. And on the 203 00:09:56,345 --> 00:09:59,905 Speaker 2: occasion when I am not wearing a voluminous outfit and 204 00:09:59,985 --> 00:10:03,345 Speaker 2: I'm dressed tailored or I'm wearing something quite so, yeah, 205 00:10:03,345 --> 00:10:06,505 Speaker 2: people around me are shocked and it's met with why 206 00:10:06,505 --> 00:10:08,225 Speaker 2: are you wearing more of that? Or why do you 207 00:10:08,265 --> 00:10:11,905 Speaker 2: not expose yourself more? And it's because I dress for 208 00:10:11,945 --> 00:10:15,425 Speaker 2: myself and my confidence comes from within. It doesn't matter 209 00:10:15,465 --> 00:10:17,985 Speaker 2: to me how people perceive me, whether I'm bigger or 210 00:10:17,985 --> 00:10:19,265 Speaker 2: smaller or what even that means? 211 00:10:19,305 --> 00:10:21,465 Speaker 1: Who cares? You know, I dress in a way that 212 00:10:21,545 --> 00:10:23,265 Speaker 1: I feel good for myself. It's so true. 213 00:10:23,265 --> 00:10:25,345 Speaker 2: You know, closer can just be closed, but they make 214 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:28,465 Speaker 2: you feel powerful or confident or happy, and you. 215 00:10:28,385 --> 00:10:29,865 Speaker 1: Know what, That's what it's all about. 216 00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:39,065 Speaker 3: Now. 217 00:10:39,345 --> 00:10:42,345 Speaker 2: People might presume or assume that you're only about high 218 00:10:42,425 --> 00:10:45,065 Speaker 2: end or luxury, but you have some great insights into 219 00:10:45,105 --> 00:10:48,665 Speaker 2: curating a wardrobe that can feel luxurious but without a 220 00:10:48,745 --> 00:10:51,465 Speaker 2: super high price tag. Slash selling our car slash, getting 221 00:10:51,505 --> 00:10:55,545 Speaker 2: another mortgage. So what's the secret to looking lux but 222 00:10:55,865 --> 00:10:58,785 Speaker 2: not going into thousands of credit card debt? Okay, So 223 00:10:59,425 --> 00:11:02,665 Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody's heard variations of what I'm going to 224 00:11:02,785 --> 00:11:05,545 Speaker 2: say time and time again, but I guess this is 225 00:11:05,585 --> 00:11:08,465 Speaker 2: my take on it. I think it is impossible to 226 00:11:09,145 --> 00:11:15,785 Speaker 2: look sooner relax without owning one or two key luxurious pieces. 227 00:11:16,105 --> 00:11:18,665 Speaker 2: How you acquire them is a different story, because obviously 228 00:11:18,705 --> 00:11:22,025 Speaker 2: now with the explosion on the circular economy of secondhand 229 00:11:22,065 --> 00:11:26,105 Speaker 2: and secondhand designer clothing and assignments, consignments, and it's not 230 00:11:26,145 --> 00:11:29,945 Speaker 2: necessarily about breaking the bank, and it's not necessarily about that. 231 00:11:30,025 --> 00:11:32,225 Speaker 2: But I also think there has to be a reality 232 00:11:32,305 --> 00:11:34,225 Speaker 2: check too, because I think there's a lot of people 233 00:11:34,265 --> 00:11:37,745 Speaker 2: constantly acquiring fast fashion, and if you add up in 234 00:11:37,785 --> 00:11:40,665 Speaker 2: the year what was spent on fast fashion, and if 235 00:11:40,665 --> 00:11:43,985 Speaker 2: you take that budget and you carefully buy one or 236 00:11:44,025 --> 00:11:47,265 Speaker 2: two key pieces and then a few pieces. I don't 237 00:11:47,385 --> 00:11:49,785 Speaker 2: endorse fast fashion, but you can certainly go to the markets. 238 00:11:49,825 --> 00:11:52,025 Speaker 1: You can vert a glee market. No, you can get range, 239 00:11:53,025 --> 00:11:54,585 Speaker 1: of course, exactly. 240 00:11:54,625 --> 00:11:54,705 Speaker 3: No. 241 00:11:54,745 --> 00:11:56,305 Speaker 2: But that I'm happy, I mean, I love that I 242 00:11:56,385 --> 00:11:59,705 Speaker 2: want to endorse and support up and coming designers who 243 00:12:00,025 --> 00:12:02,265 Speaker 2: have their own unique design element. 244 00:12:02,465 --> 00:12:03,665 Speaker 1: I guess when I'm talking about. 245 00:12:03,465 --> 00:12:07,465 Speaker 2: Fast fast fashion, I'm talking about institutions that will emulate 246 00:12:07,545 --> 00:12:10,465 Speaker 2: other people's designs. I think if they're rapid land films, 247 00:12:10,505 --> 00:12:10,985 Speaker 2: it ends up. 248 00:12:10,945 --> 00:12:11,945 Speaker 1: In that fool exactly. 249 00:12:12,105 --> 00:12:15,585 Speaker 2: I think the key is recognizing and acknowledging what is 250 00:12:15,625 --> 00:12:19,345 Speaker 2: a sophisticated, luxurious piece. But it doesn't necessarily mean it 251 00:12:19,385 --> 00:12:21,945 Speaker 2: has to be a brand that is associated with that. 252 00:12:22,385 --> 00:12:25,185 Speaker 2: It just means that the quality of the production, the 253 00:12:25,265 --> 00:12:28,945 Speaker 2: quality of the fabrications, the buttons, whether or not, the 254 00:12:29,265 --> 00:12:34,425 Speaker 2: seams even and perfectly symmetrical, you know, understanding what divines 255 00:12:34,945 --> 00:12:38,985 Speaker 2: what is perceived to be beautiful quality. Everybody's price range 256 00:12:39,065 --> 00:12:41,105 Speaker 2: is different according to them. And also just I think 257 00:12:41,105 --> 00:12:43,305 Speaker 2: a lot of the show this year so far is 258 00:12:43,345 --> 00:12:47,385 Speaker 2: about taking a beat and really considering purchases, Yes, making 259 00:12:47,425 --> 00:12:49,545 Speaker 2: sure it's not just an emotional purchase. 260 00:12:49,225 --> 00:12:51,705 Speaker 1: And really making it more considered. Yes. 261 00:12:52,025 --> 00:12:55,425 Speaker 2: I think also to that point, maybe if everybody took 262 00:12:55,545 --> 00:12:57,865 Speaker 2: an interest not everybody, but if some people took an 263 00:12:57,905 --> 00:13:00,745 Speaker 2: interest in fashion but also love the idea of styling 264 00:13:00,785 --> 00:13:03,985 Speaker 2: behind fashion, okay, and then that way you could still 265 00:13:04,025 --> 00:13:07,305 Speaker 2: have a limited wardrobe and if you knew how to 266 00:13:07,345 --> 00:13:10,585 Speaker 2: style yourself, or if you push the envelop and you 267 00:13:10,785 --> 00:13:15,625 Speaker 2: recreated looks, you probably would find so many more looks 268 00:13:15,985 --> 00:13:17,505 Speaker 2: in your wardrobe than you realize. 269 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:18,185 Speaker 1: We're even there. 270 00:13:18,305 --> 00:13:21,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, the combinations exactly, rather than going, oh, no, I 271 00:13:21,265 --> 00:13:23,705 Speaker 2: need something for this weekend and get that's new and 272 00:13:23,745 --> 00:13:24,745 Speaker 2: cheap and you're probably. 273 00:13:24,465 --> 00:13:26,905 Speaker 1: Never wearing exactly. You've talked about the black blazer. 274 00:13:26,905 --> 00:13:29,505 Speaker 2: Do you have any other little tricks for making outfits 275 00:13:29,585 --> 00:13:32,145 Speaker 2: feel effortless but refined but cool? 276 00:13:32,345 --> 00:13:33,905 Speaker 1: But shit, I've run out of time. 277 00:13:34,945 --> 00:13:38,265 Speaker 2: I mean, oh yeah, no, absolutely, I mean, so let's 278 00:13:38,305 --> 00:13:40,585 Speaker 2: just start with that black blazer again. So you can 279 00:13:40,625 --> 00:13:43,345 Speaker 2: wear that blazer closed, you can wear it open, you 280 00:13:43,345 --> 00:13:44,225 Speaker 2: can also belt it. 281 00:13:44,505 --> 00:13:45,505 Speaker 1: That one blazer will. 282 00:13:45,385 --> 00:13:48,105 Speaker 2: Look completely different depending on what you're wearing with the 283 00:13:48,185 --> 00:13:49,825 Speaker 2: other thing is I mean, this might be a little 284 00:13:49,825 --> 00:13:51,825 Speaker 2: bit quirky for some people, but you can wear the 285 00:13:51,825 --> 00:13:55,385 Speaker 2: blazer back to front, you put the arms in, you 286 00:13:55,465 --> 00:13:56,985 Speaker 2: butt in it at the back, and you can also 287 00:13:57,105 --> 00:14:01,265 Speaker 2: belt it. So what I'm saying is recreating certain elements. Okay, 288 00:14:01,305 --> 00:14:03,225 Speaker 2: what else can you have in your wardrobe? So a belt, 289 00:14:03,265 --> 00:14:06,585 Speaker 2: so really good belt is really important. A beautiful shoe, 290 00:14:06,905 --> 00:14:09,505 Speaker 2: so it could be one boot and one sandal and 291 00:14:09,785 --> 00:14:13,145 Speaker 2: one trainer, but make sure that the quality is beautiful 292 00:14:13,145 --> 00:14:15,505 Speaker 2: and it will last. So what I do with my 293 00:14:15,585 --> 00:14:18,185 Speaker 2: shoes is I take my shoe to a cobbler, you know, 294 00:14:18,345 --> 00:14:20,345 Speaker 2: to one of the guys that where you can get 295 00:14:20,385 --> 00:14:23,465 Speaker 2: your keys cut, and they usually have machinery in there. 296 00:14:23,545 --> 00:14:26,545 Speaker 2: And again, you're creating a service for somebody else. You're 297 00:14:26,625 --> 00:14:29,425 Speaker 2: sort of you're buying into their service, and they're making 298 00:14:29,465 --> 00:14:32,025 Speaker 2: your products look brand new. And they do that with shoes, 299 00:14:32,025 --> 00:14:32,985 Speaker 2: they do that with bags. 300 00:14:33,065 --> 00:14:34,305 Speaker 1: I do that a lot. I do too. 301 00:14:34,345 --> 00:14:35,865 Speaker 2: It's funny you say, that's just been my ten year 302 00:14:35,865 --> 00:14:39,265 Speaker 2: wedding anniversary. I wore Alexander McQueen heels that I've still got, 303 00:14:39,265 --> 00:14:41,265 Speaker 2: but they're in pretty bad shape. And I thought, oh, 304 00:14:41,305 --> 00:14:43,225 Speaker 2: buy new ones for you know, the anniversary. And I went, no, 305 00:14:43,265 --> 00:14:44,705 Speaker 2: you know what, And I took the old ones and 306 00:14:44,745 --> 00:14:47,465 Speaker 2: he made them look almost brand new for sixty bucks. 307 00:14:47,505 --> 00:14:50,745 Speaker 2: Brilliant and the sentimental value of wearing them ten years later, 308 00:14:50,825 --> 00:14:53,385 Speaker 2: you know, it was not as exciting as new shoes, 309 00:14:53,425 --> 00:14:55,025 Speaker 2: but then it felt so good to give them new 310 00:14:55,025 --> 00:14:56,065 Speaker 2: life and the memories. 311 00:14:56,505 --> 00:14:58,065 Speaker 1: Okay, So imagine if you had. 312 00:14:57,905 --> 00:15:00,465 Speaker 2: A court shoe and you added a brooch to the 313 00:15:00,465 --> 00:15:03,945 Speaker 2: front of it, and then suddenly you're taking a plane 314 00:15:03,985 --> 00:15:06,585 Speaker 2: shoe and you're adding an element that makes it look 315 00:15:06,625 --> 00:15:09,065 Speaker 2: completely different, and then you wear that all season and 316 00:15:09,105 --> 00:15:11,105 Speaker 2: then you've got your new shoe as well. I've seen 317 00:15:11,145 --> 00:15:13,145 Speaker 2: people do that with clip on earrings, which is actually 318 00:15:13,185 --> 00:15:13,585 Speaker 2: very clever. 319 00:15:13,865 --> 00:15:16,025 Speaker 1: But you can also color shoes. 320 00:15:16,825 --> 00:15:18,625 Speaker 2: You can also have them painted, So there are different 321 00:15:18,625 --> 00:15:19,945 Speaker 2: ways of recreating things. 322 00:15:20,065 --> 00:15:20,945 Speaker 1: Same with bags. 323 00:15:21,345 --> 00:15:23,825 Speaker 2: You can put a scarf around a handle, you can 324 00:15:23,945 --> 00:15:26,265 Speaker 2: dress a bag up like there's also at the moment, 325 00:15:26,305 --> 00:15:28,705 Speaker 2: you know, people putting trinkets and bags to their bag. 326 00:15:28,785 --> 00:15:28,945 Speaker 1: Yeah. 327 00:15:28,945 --> 00:15:32,665 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So there are different ways of being super creative 328 00:15:32,945 --> 00:15:34,305 Speaker 2: in reinventing your wardrobe. 329 00:15:34,345 --> 00:15:34,825 Speaker 1: I love that. 330 00:15:34,865 --> 00:15:36,185 Speaker 2: Oh, I know you maybe want to go home and 331 00:15:36,185 --> 00:15:39,225 Speaker 2: think I've got a lot of like beige and cream 332 00:15:39,305 --> 00:15:41,065 Speaker 2: leather shoes, and I'm like, they're dead, but I could 333 00:15:41,105 --> 00:15:41,505 Speaker 2: die them. 334 00:15:41,705 --> 00:15:43,145 Speaker 1: Work events, this is something. 335 00:15:42,945 --> 00:15:47,065 Speaker 2: We get a lot because people either think work is boring, slash, 336 00:15:47,145 --> 00:15:50,385 Speaker 2: I'll just go by whatever, or they feel like they 337 00:15:50,505 --> 00:15:53,345 Speaker 2: have to look very professional but not cool. They get 338 00:15:53,385 --> 00:15:56,945 Speaker 2: confused about fashion and work because apparently they can't go together. 339 00:15:57,145 --> 00:15:58,865 Speaker 1: You and I work in fashion, so that's different. 340 00:15:58,905 --> 00:16:01,105 Speaker 2: But do you have any tips for people that might 341 00:16:01,145 --> 00:16:02,785 Speaker 2: be a bit more corporate than you and I to 342 00:16:02,825 --> 00:16:05,545 Speaker 2: look sharp, feel confident, but still get the most out 343 00:16:05,785 --> 00:16:08,105 Speaker 2: of their wardrobe so they're not just wearing it. 344 00:16:08,305 --> 00:16:08,505 Speaker 1: Yeah. 345 00:16:08,505 --> 00:16:10,785 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, we have a lot of clients that 346 00:16:10,865 --> 00:16:14,625 Speaker 2: work in a corporate setting and it's about matching sets. 347 00:16:14,945 --> 00:16:16,865 Speaker 1: So for those particularly corporate that need. 348 00:16:16,785 --> 00:16:19,265 Speaker 2: To wear, a suit is one element, but you can 349 00:16:19,305 --> 00:16:21,465 Speaker 2: also look very corporate just in a matching set. So 350 00:16:21,585 --> 00:16:24,105 Speaker 2: matching blouse with a matching skirt, or a matching blous 351 00:16:24,145 --> 00:16:26,305 Speaker 2: with a matching pant, and then you put again your 352 00:16:26,305 --> 00:16:28,465 Speaker 2: black blazer or a blaser over the top of it. 353 00:16:28,745 --> 00:16:30,345 Speaker 2: But the thing is, you could have a black suit, 354 00:16:30,465 --> 00:16:31,625 Speaker 2: or you could have a blue suit. You could have 355 00:16:31,625 --> 00:16:34,385 Speaker 2: any colored suit, and as long as you had lovely 356 00:16:34,865 --> 00:16:37,785 Speaker 2: blouses and different colored blouses. And again you could have 357 00:16:37,825 --> 00:16:40,705 Speaker 2: a pussy blow blouse, which means you have the bow 358 00:16:40,745 --> 00:16:42,505 Speaker 2: that you tie in front, which again will make a 359 00:16:42,545 --> 00:16:45,785 Speaker 2: suit look really different. So you can reinvent a suit 360 00:16:46,025 --> 00:16:49,585 Speaker 2: by simply reinventing how you style it and what shirts 361 00:16:49,665 --> 00:16:49,985 Speaker 2: or what. 362 00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:51,345 Speaker 1: Blouses that you put with it. 363 00:16:51,585 --> 00:16:56,305 Speaker 2: The other thing as well, is because oversized jackets and oversized. 364 00:16:56,345 --> 00:16:59,465 Speaker 2: Anything looks effortless and looks cool. There is a way 365 00:16:59,505 --> 00:17:03,105 Speaker 2: to also think about wearing items a little bit bigger 366 00:17:03,385 --> 00:17:05,905 Speaker 2: and just making it look like it falls and hangs 367 00:17:06,145 --> 00:17:08,745 Speaker 2: really comfortably on you as well. There's something very confident 368 00:17:08,745 --> 00:17:11,025 Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, it's not that we have to have 369 00:17:11,105 --> 00:17:13,505 Speaker 2: like our traditional ten year ago sort of fitted blazer 370 00:17:13,505 --> 00:17:14,825 Speaker 2: and then you wear you cool one on the weekend. 371 00:17:14,905 --> 00:17:17,105 Speaker 1: You can make them work for both totally. 372 00:17:17,145 --> 00:17:19,425 Speaker 2: And you can also bring to work a pair of 373 00:17:19,825 --> 00:17:22,465 Speaker 2: heels if you're wearing flats all day, and if you're 374 00:17:22,465 --> 00:17:25,745 Speaker 2: going straight from work to an evening party, you can 375 00:17:25,825 --> 00:17:28,745 Speaker 2: easily just put on a fantastic shoe, change the bag 376 00:17:28,825 --> 00:17:32,425 Speaker 2: from a satchel or whatever to an evening bag, and 377 00:17:32,465 --> 00:17:34,905 Speaker 2: you can add some crystals, put on neck pieces, do 378 00:17:35,025 --> 00:17:37,785 Speaker 2: your hair up at the makeup, and maybe change the 379 00:17:37,905 --> 00:17:39,505 Speaker 2: top or not even change the top, you know, at 380 00:17:39,545 --> 00:17:42,025 Speaker 2: a belt, and then you know, you really can style 381 00:17:42,025 --> 00:17:44,425 Speaker 2: yourself up on the other end of the scale every 382 00:17:44,505 --> 00:17:46,465 Speaker 2: day where I mean, I'm guilty of this. I have 383 00:17:46,505 --> 00:17:48,145 Speaker 2: a big wardrobe, but then a couple of days a 384 00:17:48,145 --> 00:17:50,985 Speaker 2: week I'm literally in my daggiestliggings and my balled up 385 00:17:51,025 --> 00:17:52,825 Speaker 2: T shirts. And I'm like, no one see me today, 386 00:17:52,865 --> 00:17:54,585 Speaker 2: and then that's when I bump into people. So is 387 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:59,345 Speaker 2: there a key to still feeling put together? And you know, 388 00:17:59,585 --> 00:18:02,185 Speaker 2: just running around? But like we said before, you put 389 00:18:02,185 --> 00:18:04,585 Speaker 2: in that little bit of extra effort even if you're 390 00:18:04,585 --> 00:18:06,465 Speaker 2: just running errands, and you feel better for the day. 391 00:18:06,745 --> 00:18:08,265 Speaker 1: You know, you don't care if you run into people. 392 00:18:08,585 --> 00:18:12,145 Speaker 2: Well, I would never wear a T shirt and tracksuit 393 00:18:12,185 --> 00:18:14,425 Speaker 2: pants together. I'd wear a T shirt, but i'd wear 394 00:18:14,425 --> 00:18:17,265 Speaker 2: it with a dress bottom. Or I'd wear a tracksuit 395 00:18:17,305 --> 00:18:19,585 Speaker 2: pants but i'd wear it with a blouse, yeah, Or 396 00:18:19,705 --> 00:18:22,025 Speaker 2: blouse and a vase that yes, and a sandal. So 397 00:18:22,105 --> 00:18:24,585 Speaker 2: I think it's about how you coordinate the pieces together. 398 00:18:24,665 --> 00:18:27,985 Speaker 2: So if you're wearing a T shirt and leggings and trackies, 399 00:18:28,465 --> 00:18:30,425 Speaker 2: then yes, you're going to look super casual and there's 400 00:18:30,425 --> 00:18:32,785 Speaker 2: no way around it. But if you mix it up 401 00:18:32,865 --> 00:18:36,025 Speaker 2: with items that aren't as casual, then you can definitely 402 00:18:36,025 --> 00:18:37,585 Speaker 2: do that. I mean, let's face it, you're in trackies. 403 00:18:37,585 --> 00:18:39,385 Speaker 2: You don't want to change, but you can quickly within 404 00:18:39,425 --> 00:18:41,905 Speaker 2: thirty seconds, change your top, put on a shirt, put 405 00:18:41,945 --> 00:18:44,465 Speaker 2: on a cotton shirt, pull the color up. That's why 406 00:18:44,545 --> 00:18:46,345 Speaker 2: my trench is hanging by the front door because I'm 407 00:18:46,345 --> 00:18:48,305 Speaker 2: like I can pretty much tide anything under my waist. 408 00:18:48,305 --> 00:18:49,585 Speaker 1: There's that trench. Yeah. 409 00:18:49,825 --> 00:18:52,465 Speaker 2: Obviously having a retail offering, do you shop anywhere else? 410 00:18:52,505 --> 00:18:56,545 Speaker 2: Do you shop in real life? What's your personal like shopping? 411 00:18:57,145 --> 00:18:59,985 Speaker 2: Obviously all of my clothes are from palor Ex, and 412 00:19:00,025 --> 00:19:03,505 Speaker 2: my bags and my shoes and my bits and my pieces, sunglasses, everything. However, 413 00:19:04,025 --> 00:19:07,825 Speaker 2: I do have two daughters and they love shopping, and 414 00:19:08,265 --> 00:19:11,545 Speaker 2: I am in the process of teaching them the value 415 00:19:11,905 --> 00:19:14,865 Speaker 2: of shopping. They do not have my budget and they 416 00:19:14,905 --> 00:19:17,905 Speaker 2: do not have access. I will pass bits and pieces 417 00:19:17,945 --> 00:19:20,185 Speaker 2: down to them, but I'm not passing anything precious just 418 00:19:20,265 --> 00:19:22,145 Speaker 2: yet because I don't feel that they will look after 419 00:19:22,185 --> 00:19:24,785 Speaker 2: it well enough. So what we do is a family 420 00:19:24,905 --> 00:19:28,745 Speaker 2: little excursion. So after our Saturday netball, because both my 421 00:19:28,785 --> 00:19:31,625 Speaker 2: girls play, we at least once a month take a 422 00:19:31,625 --> 00:19:35,305 Speaker 2: little trip to leave markets. I started out exploring and 423 00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:37,105 Speaker 2: understanding fashion from the markets. 424 00:19:37,185 --> 00:19:39,105 Speaker 1: So I am that old that. 425 00:19:39,065 --> 00:19:42,745 Speaker 2: I remember Saturday mornings, I'd go in exactly and it 426 00:19:42,785 --> 00:19:44,505 Speaker 2: was padding to markets. And that was back in the 427 00:19:44,545 --> 00:19:47,185 Speaker 2: day when Zimmermann started at the market. There were so 428 00:19:47,305 --> 00:19:50,265 Speaker 2: many different brands that started at the markets. And the 429 00:19:50,305 --> 00:19:52,585 Speaker 2: markets was a launching pad. It was also a place 430 00:19:52,585 --> 00:19:55,385 Speaker 2: where you could pick up inexpensive pieces, and you felt 431 00:19:55,385 --> 00:19:58,905 Speaker 2: that you were providing the vendors with their revenue for 432 00:19:59,345 --> 00:20:02,985 Speaker 2: items that they had potentially made themselves. And it didn't 433 00:20:02,985 --> 00:20:06,225 Speaker 2: feel that you were in this circular economy of fast fashion. 434 00:20:06,265 --> 00:20:10,025 Speaker 2: You feel you're contributing to something that was exactly shop 435 00:20:10,065 --> 00:20:10,385 Speaker 2: a lot. 436 00:20:10,465 --> 00:20:12,665 Speaker 1: At the markets, we make jewelry together. 437 00:20:12,705 --> 00:20:15,745 Speaker 2: There there's little jewelry stations sometimes as well, there are 438 00:20:15,745 --> 00:20:19,025 Speaker 2: a few secondhand designer places, and so when my kids 439 00:20:19,105 --> 00:20:21,625 Speaker 2: want something that I'm not quite prepared to pay that amount, 440 00:20:21,865 --> 00:20:24,865 Speaker 2: sometimes we'll find it there and we'll go home. We'll 441 00:20:24,945 --> 00:20:27,545 Speaker 2: wash it together, and we'll talk about the fabrication, we'll 442 00:20:27,545 --> 00:20:30,425 Speaker 2: talk about circular economy. For example, even brought in with 443 00:20:30,465 --> 00:20:33,105 Speaker 2: me today. Even though I have access to so many 444 00:20:33,625 --> 00:20:37,745 Speaker 2: pairs of sunglasses, I often buy sulass. 445 00:20:37,225 --> 00:20:39,465 Speaker 1: On back actually often a lot, but. 446 00:20:39,625 --> 00:20:41,585 Speaker 2: I've always got four or ofs Yeah, so I've brought 447 00:20:41,625 --> 00:20:43,425 Speaker 2: in these sunglasses to show you. 448 00:20:43,545 --> 00:20:44,465 Speaker 1: And it's quite funny. 449 00:20:44,465 --> 00:20:47,305 Speaker 2: And because we do sell luxury sunglasses and I wear 450 00:20:47,345 --> 00:20:47,865 Speaker 2: them as well. 451 00:20:47,985 --> 00:20:49,625 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a bit of a sunglass box. 452 00:20:49,745 --> 00:20:53,025 Speaker 2: So I will find styles in the market that you 453 00:20:53,105 --> 00:20:55,745 Speaker 2: can never ever find. 454 00:20:55,345 --> 00:20:58,065 Speaker 1: Oh there's a fabulous anywhere else particulars. 455 00:20:58,065 --> 00:21:00,665 Speaker 2: Oh they're so good on you, And everybody ask me 456 00:21:00,705 --> 00:21:01,385 Speaker 2: where I get them from. 457 00:21:01,425 --> 00:21:02,985 Speaker 1: They all think I'm going to rattle off some. 458 00:21:03,785 --> 00:21:06,025 Speaker 2: Luxury rag and probably like, okay, I couldn't see those 459 00:21:06,025 --> 00:21:07,785 Speaker 2: in power. So they come out exactly and they don't 460 00:21:07,785 --> 00:21:09,465 Speaker 2: realize that I spent ten dollars and put them at 461 00:21:09,465 --> 00:21:11,185 Speaker 2: the mark. So when I was there for my children, 462 00:21:11,305 --> 00:21:13,785 Speaker 2: because I do like the experience of shopping, I kind 463 00:21:13,785 --> 00:21:16,345 Speaker 2: of kind of help myself and I start smelling people's 464 00:21:16,345 --> 00:21:19,265 Speaker 2: perfumes or you know, I bought a really lovely anklet 465 00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:22,865 Speaker 2: for myself from a guy that was importing product from India, 466 00:21:22,905 --> 00:21:24,745 Speaker 2: and you know, and then there's other people that have 467 00:21:24,905 --> 00:21:27,825 Speaker 2: chili oils. And so I like the markets because it 468 00:21:27,945 --> 00:21:30,265 Speaker 2: reminds me of my childhood and that's when I learned 469 00:21:30,545 --> 00:21:34,065 Speaker 2: how to shop and the value of shopping and the value. 470 00:21:33,905 --> 00:21:34,905 Speaker 1: For a community too. 471 00:21:34,985 --> 00:21:37,185 Speaker 2: Doesn't it like what it was back in the marketplace, 472 00:21:37,185 --> 00:21:39,625 Speaker 2: back in the day, where exactly meet the people behind, 473 00:21:39,705 --> 00:21:43,025 Speaker 2: you know, and you can ask those questions. And sometimes 474 00:21:43,265 --> 00:21:46,225 Speaker 2: some of the brands have little sales, so you know, 475 00:21:46,265 --> 00:21:48,585 Speaker 2: my daughter was so excited because the swimwear brand that 476 00:21:48,625 --> 00:21:50,385 Speaker 2: she loves was having a sale and she was able 477 00:21:50,425 --> 00:21:52,585 Speaker 2: to buy that. So yeah, I love the markets and 478 00:21:52,625 --> 00:21:53,865 Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. 479 00:21:53,905 --> 00:21:54,505 Speaker 1: The community. 480 00:21:54,625 --> 00:21:56,865 Speaker 2: There's often music playing, and there's people there and they're 481 00:21:56,865 --> 00:21:59,385 Speaker 2: making food and often they've made it at home and 482 00:21:59,385 --> 00:22:01,905 Speaker 2: they're coming there. And also it feels quite multicultural because 483 00:22:01,905 --> 00:22:03,945 Speaker 2: the sine is from all different nationalities. 484 00:22:04,185 --> 00:22:06,465 Speaker 1: I really enjoy the market. So that's my low that's 485 00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:08,025 Speaker 1: inspired me to go. 486 00:22:08,065 --> 00:22:09,905 Speaker 2: I haven't I do a lot of thrifting, but I 487 00:22:09,905 --> 00:22:11,545 Speaker 2: haven't been to a market in quite a while, and 488 00:22:11,585 --> 00:22:13,665 Speaker 2: that has inspired me to go to some local ones 489 00:22:13,705 --> 00:22:16,025 Speaker 2: soon now quickly, before we get onto bougie and budget. 490 00:22:16,065 --> 00:22:18,705 Speaker 2: You mentioned fabrication a little bit in teaching your daughters 491 00:22:18,745 --> 00:22:21,745 Speaker 2: about that. Can you give us some tips on fabrics 492 00:22:21,785 --> 00:22:24,865 Speaker 2: that feel luxurious but that might not be expensive, or 493 00:22:25,025 --> 00:22:27,105 Speaker 2: fabrics that we should avoid. 494 00:22:27,305 --> 00:22:28,665 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's a whole. 495 00:22:28,465 --> 00:22:31,665 Speaker 2: Topic in anomena because I'm glad because no, because what 496 00:22:31,865 --> 00:22:34,385 Speaker 2: I might say now could defy what a lot of 497 00:22:34,425 --> 00:22:39,065 Speaker 2: other people think and feel. So I do not believe 498 00:22:40,105 --> 00:22:42,945 Speaker 2: that man made fibers are all terrible. I love you 499 00:22:43,025 --> 00:22:45,985 Speaker 2: and I do not believe that they all should or 500 00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:48,665 Speaker 2: will end up in landfilm. And I say that because 501 00:22:49,065 --> 00:22:51,265 Speaker 2: some of the brands that I represent and that I've 502 00:22:51,305 --> 00:22:55,065 Speaker 2: been stocking for almost twenty five years, they don't use 503 00:22:55,345 --> 00:22:58,745 Speaker 2: man made fibers. And these are very highly creative brands 504 00:22:58,825 --> 00:23:00,865 Speaker 2: that their pieces have held the value of time. 505 00:23:00,945 --> 00:23:03,985 Speaker 1: If you they are man made, no, not made made. 506 00:23:04,185 --> 00:23:05,145 Speaker 1: So this is what I'm saying. 507 00:23:05,185 --> 00:23:10,905 Speaker 2: So the thing is, some of these brands that have designs, 508 00:23:11,145 --> 00:23:13,545 Speaker 2: if they were one hundred percent cotton, if they were 509 00:23:13,585 --> 00:23:16,225 Speaker 2: being washed over this twenty year period, they would have 510 00:23:16,345 --> 00:23:20,665 Speaker 2: disintegrated by now. And so some of these pieces that 511 00:23:20,745 --> 00:23:23,265 Speaker 2: are man made fibers, they've stood the test of time, 512 00:23:23,345 --> 00:23:25,065 Speaker 2: and I can hand those down to my daughter and 513 00:23:25,105 --> 00:23:27,425 Speaker 2: they will cherish them and they'll understand the value of those. 514 00:23:27,625 --> 00:23:28,505 Speaker 1: So don't get me wrong. 515 00:23:28,545 --> 00:23:32,945 Speaker 2: I'm not entirely endorsing all man made fibers, and I'm 516 00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:36,505 Speaker 2: not entirely putting down natural made fibers, not at all. 517 00:23:36,585 --> 00:23:39,145 Speaker 2: I see the merit on both sides, and I also 518 00:23:39,185 --> 00:23:42,985 Speaker 2: see the complexities around both sides. What I will say 519 00:23:43,185 --> 00:23:46,225 Speaker 2: is there are some rayons and some viscosses that are 520 00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:50,185 Speaker 2: completely breathable. So very, very different to the boom or 521 00:23:50,265 --> 00:23:50,985 Speaker 2: old fashions. 522 00:23:51,065 --> 00:23:51,465 Speaker 1: Emotion. 523 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:57,585 Speaker 2: Yeah no, because rayons today and beautiful quality viscosses, your 524 00:23:57,625 --> 00:24:00,945 Speaker 2: skin breathes, there's you know, the perspiration doesn't necessarily go 525 00:24:01,065 --> 00:24:03,945 Speaker 2: hand in hand. And they're not creacible, So you can 526 00:24:04,145 --> 00:24:06,625 Speaker 2: put them in your suitcase, you can go traveling, you 527 00:24:06,665 --> 00:24:08,305 Speaker 2: can wear them at a meeting and then go out 528 00:24:08,345 --> 00:24:10,505 Speaker 2: at night and not worry that I'm sitting all day. 529 00:24:10,505 --> 00:24:13,145 Speaker 2: You're going to have creases on your pants or on 530 00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:15,705 Speaker 2: your blouse. So there's a lot of merit. And as 531 00:24:15,785 --> 00:24:17,985 Speaker 2: long as they don't end up in landfield, if they 532 00:24:18,025 --> 00:24:20,625 Speaker 2: are a beautiful quality, they shouldn't. They can be passed 533 00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:23,665 Speaker 2: down or they'll go into a circular economy's some sort. 534 00:24:23,745 --> 00:24:25,545 Speaker 2: I have to say that I have one blaze that 535 00:24:25,585 --> 00:24:27,465 Speaker 2: I just take for travel all the time. It's synthetic. 536 00:24:27,665 --> 00:24:29,465 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but it doesn't crush. 537 00:24:29,545 --> 00:24:31,505 Speaker 2: It still looks great. I can chuck it on the floor, 538 00:24:31,505 --> 00:24:34,065 Speaker 2: I can survive in the overhead locker and I get 539 00:24:34,105 --> 00:24:36,145 Speaker 2: off and it looks great. And I know I should 540 00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:38,585 Speaker 2: have a wall or whatever, but it depends. I think 541 00:24:38,625 --> 00:24:40,585 Speaker 2: the issue is when people feel that it's going to 542 00:24:40,665 --> 00:24:42,985 Speaker 2: end up in landfield. That's when it's a problem, if 543 00:24:42,985 --> 00:24:44,825 Speaker 2: it feels like it's something that's going to last you 544 00:24:44,865 --> 00:24:46,985 Speaker 2: a lifetime or something that will end up back in 545 00:24:47,025 --> 00:24:49,545 Speaker 2: the circular economy. I think people are okay with that. 546 00:24:50,185 --> 00:24:51,225 Speaker 2: I think I agree. 547 00:24:51,265 --> 00:25:06,225 Speaker 3: No, I agree absolutely, it's very expensive. 548 00:25:06,705 --> 00:25:08,905 Speaker 1: How wond are these percent? 549 00:25:10,825 --> 00:25:13,105 Speaker 2: I'm going to go first because I chose my boogie 550 00:25:13,145 --> 00:25:14,385 Speaker 2: from the Parlor X website. 551 00:25:14,705 --> 00:25:17,865 Speaker 1: I did my homework. I'm so good. I love a 552 00:25:17,905 --> 00:25:18,265 Speaker 1: T shirt. 553 00:25:18,305 --> 00:25:20,385 Speaker 2: I live in T shirts. Not today, But I didn't 554 00:25:20,425 --> 00:25:23,225 Speaker 2: know that Parlor X. You do your own teas the 555 00:25:23,305 --> 00:25:27,145 Speaker 2: Parlor X the xt in why they're so faul so. 556 00:25:27,185 --> 00:25:29,225 Speaker 1: Did not expect you to say that? Did you not know? 557 00:25:29,305 --> 00:25:32,025 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm always a tea and a blazer one hundred 558 00:25:32,025 --> 00:25:34,385 Speaker 2: and twenty five dollars. So that's my boogie because obviously 559 00:25:34,425 --> 00:25:36,505 Speaker 2: you could go to uniclob but this is so cool. 560 00:25:36,825 --> 00:25:38,985 Speaker 1: What's your bougie? It can be very bougie. 561 00:25:39,265 --> 00:25:40,985 Speaker 2: Well, I brought it with me today and that's my 562 00:25:41,065 --> 00:25:42,905 Speaker 2: bag about her. 563 00:25:43,145 --> 00:25:46,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I brought her because she's my bougie. Usually 564 00:25:46,505 --> 00:25:47,785 Speaker 1: it's a bag, okay. 565 00:25:47,545 --> 00:25:51,825 Speaker 2: So you know it's because often the bags, even if 566 00:25:51,825 --> 00:25:55,465 Speaker 2: they're very, very discreeched. People can recognize that absolutely. So 567 00:25:55,585 --> 00:25:58,185 Speaker 2: the bag is often a bit of a bougie giveaway, so. 568 00:25:58,145 --> 00:25:58,945 Speaker 1: You stock a liar. 569 00:25:59,705 --> 00:26:02,425 Speaker 2: We've had a liar since the beginning of Parlor X 570 00:26:02,465 --> 00:26:05,825 Speaker 2: almost so it's one of our most important partnerships and 571 00:26:05,825 --> 00:26:06,865 Speaker 2: we have it exclusively. 572 00:26:07,185 --> 00:26:09,105 Speaker 1: Do you know the style name. Yeah, this is called 573 00:26:09,105 --> 00:26:09,505 Speaker 1: the Teckle. 574 00:26:09,905 --> 00:26:12,225 Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's it's almost okay, I'm going to butcher this, 575 00:26:12,265 --> 00:26:14,105 Speaker 2: but it's almost like a pencil case. It's like a 576 00:26:14,145 --> 00:26:17,105 Speaker 2: baggette sort of shape, very wearable strap, not uncomfortable. 577 00:26:17,185 --> 00:26:18,185 Speaker 1: Well that was the whole point. 578 00:26:18,305 --> 00:26:20,945 Speaker 2: It fits so much and it's quite smart, so you 579 00:26:20,985 --> 00:26:22,985 Speaker 2: can wear it in the evening if you're going from data. 580 00:26:23,305 --> 00:26:27,465 Speaker 2: It's actually very versatile and yes, the longest straps under layers. 581 00:26:27,825 --> 00:26:28,785 Speaker 1: Uh oh, you've sold me. 582 00:26:29,425 --> 00:26:32,265 Speaker 2: Okay, My budget are a pair of pants that I 583 00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:35,705 Speaker 2: found on the Iconic. Now, I love Mango or MNG 584 00:26:36,545 --> 00:26:39,425 Speaker 2: for some high street stuff. The Iconic gets a bit 585 00:26:39,425 --> 00:26:41,825 Speaker 2: of it here, but you can also shop online from overseas. 586 00:26:41,865 --> 00:26:44,225 Speaker 2: But these are just called the Grace Trousers one hundred 587 00:26:44,225 --> 00:26:46,865 Speaker 2: and fifty nine ninety five dollars and they're just a 588 00:26:46,945 --> 00:26:49,705 Speaker 2: really simple sort of tapelet at the ankle. 589 00:26:50,305 --> 00:26:52,385 Speaker 1: Not quite a barrel because it's not a gene. 590 00:26:52,385 --> 00:26:54,145 Speaker 2: But I just feel like those could be a really 591 00:26:54,145 --> 00:26:56,705 Speaker 2: good classic pair of pants that people could wear with 592 00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:58,745 Speaker 2: a t shirt, with a tank, with a denim jacket, 593 00:26:58,985 --> 00:27:03,185 Speaker 2: with your trench. So they're my budget lovely, what about you? 594 00:27:03,025 --> 00:27:03,265 Speaker 1: Are you? 595 00:27:03,265 --> 00:27:05,825 Speaker 2: Are they your market Sunny's? It is my market Sunny. 596 00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:08,785 Speaker 2: It's actually not just my market Sunny's. I also have 597 00:27:08,865 --> 00:27:12,625 Speaker 2: my market ankle, and I have some bracelets sometimes if 598 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:14,585 Speaker 2: I want to have a bit of a bohemian feel, 599 00:27:15,065 --> 00:27:18,345 Speaker 2: I've got quite a few really cool bracelets that I 600 00:27:18,425 --> 00:27:20,985 Speaker 2: buy at the markets. And sometimes if I want to 601 00:27:21,025 --> 00:27:23,745 Speaker 2: buy the kids just a little treat, it'll be a 602 00:27:23,785 --> 00:27:28,465 Speaker 2: trinket from the markets along with my Those subclasses are fabulous. 603 00:27:28,585 --> 00:27:30,665 Speaker 2: I need the pink pear but with a darker frame. 604 00:27:30,745 --> 00:27:32,225 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm going to head to the markets. 605 00:27:32,505 --> 00:27:32,745 Speaker 1: EVA. 606 00:27:32,865 --> 00:27:36,105 Speaker 2: Congratulations on such a long standing career through all of 607 00:27:36,145 --> 00:27:38,745 Speaker 2: the ups and downs and long mate, continue, Thank you 608 00:27:38,785 --> 00:27:41,545 Speaker 2: for joining me, thank you to thank you for listening 609 00:27:41,545 --> 00:27:43,865 Speaker 2: to Nothing to Wear, and don't forget to sign up 610 00:27:43,865 --> 00:27:45,545 Speaker 2: to the Nothing to Wear news that i'n't there's a 611 00:27:45,585 --> 00:27:48,545 Speaker 2: link in the show notes. 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