1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,154 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm Mom and mea podcast. Makeup is 2 00:00:16,194 --> 00:00:20,553 Speaker 1: My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty 3 00:00:20,553 --> 00:00:20,954 Speaker 1: a body. 4 00:00:24,914 --> 00:00:27,994 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the podcast for Your Face. 5 00:00:28,234 --> 00:00:31,234 Speaker 2: My Face is We Campbell, My Face is Kelly McCarron. 6 00:00:31,274 --> 00:00:33,793 Speaker 1: And before we get in to our Q and A 7 00:00:33,914 --> 00:00:36,994 Speaker 1: Monday episode, here's what's happening in the land of beauty 8 00:00:36,994 --> 00:00:37,874 Speaker 1: with our Beauty Edit. 9 00:00:38,793 --> 00:00:42,434 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Beauty Edit. I'm Cass Momame's morning editor. 10 00:00:42,354 --> 00:00:45,114 Speaker 4: And I'm Taylor Cass. Let's get straight into it. What's 11 00:00:45,114 --> 00:00:46,873 Speaker 4: happening in the beauty world this week. 12 00:00:47,233 --> 00:00:49,274 Speaker 3: So we all know it's been Black Friday. I'm sure 13 00:00:49,314 --> 00:00:50,753 Speaker 3: a lot of ubies have been spending up. 14 00:00:50,793 --> 00:00:51,673 Speaker 1: I know I have. 15 00:00:52,074 --> 00:00:54,594 Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about the top beauty brands that 16 00:00:54,754 --> 00:00:57,273 Speaker 3: won for Black Friday on Amazon because there was a 17 00:00:57,273 --> 00:00:59,834 Speaker 3: lot of spending going on. So the top ten brands 18 00:00:59,834 --> 00:01:02,514 Speaker 3: accounted for just under fifty percent of the total Amazon 19 00:01:02,554 --> 00:01:06,354 Speaker 3: beauty sales, so they seriously made their mark for this year. 20 00:01:06,634 --> 00:01:08,953 Speaker 3: And skincare that was the most dominant category across the winners. 21 00:01:08,994 --> 00:01:10,594 Speaker 3: So look, Taylor, I was wondering if you could chut 22 00:01:10,634 --> 00:01:11,594 Speaker 3: us through some of these. 23 00:01:11,794 --> 00:01:15,994 Speaker 4: Okay. So, according to Amazon, the most purchased brand in 24 00:01:16,034 --> 00:01:19,154 Speaker 4: the beauty space for Black Friday is medi Cube sixteen 25 00:01:19,194 --> 00:01:21,634 Speaker 4: point four percent of the market share, which that seems 26 00:01:21,634 --> 00:01:23,874 Speaker 4: like a little number, but when you put it into perspective, 27 00:01:23,914 --> 00:01:27,514 Speaker 4: that is a huge chunk of beauty lovers buying Medicube. 28 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:29,314 Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've seen all the influencers 29 00:01:29,314 --> 00:01:31,714 Speaker 3: that are loving Medicube, but I know Kylie Jenner has 30 00:01:31,794 --> 00:01:34,634 Speaker 3: been using it. Jeffrey Star did a video, and they're 31 00:01:34,674 --> 00:01:37,634 Speaker 3: really well known for their collagen jelly cream and salmon 32 00:01:37,834 --> 00:01:40,354 Speaker 3: DNA peter and pink peptid serum. You've probably seen that 33 00:01:40,394 --> 00:01:42,474 Speaker 3: all of your social media. But I think the thing 34 00:01:42,514 --> 00:01:44,474 Speaker 3: a lot of people were buying, and I'm curious to 35 00:01:44,554 --> 00:01:46,914 Speaker 3: know this this wasn't in the stats. It's a Meticube 36 00:01:46,914 --> 00:01:49,394 Speaker 3: boost of Pro, which is kind of like their technological advice. 37 00:01:49,434 --> 00:01:52,114 Speaker 1: It's like the little wand yeah, yeah, the little one. 38 00:01:52,354 --> 00:01:54,354 Speaker 4: I feel like with Black Friday. I don't know about ucas, 39 00:01:54,394 --> 00:01:56,794 Speaker 4: but I'm like, am I buying for myself? Or am 40 00:01:56,794 --> 00:01:59,274 Speaker 4: I going to use this time responsibly and purchase all 41 00:01:59,314 --> 00:02:01,594 Speaker 4: my Christmas gifts? I definitely bought for myself. 42 00:02:01,314 --> 00:02:02,554 Speaker 3: I definitely bought for myself. 43 00:02:02,754 --> 00:02:05,434 Speaker 4: Also in that list, sarah A coming in with five 44 00:02:05,434 --> 00:02:07,394 Speaker 4: percent of the market share, which is no so price. 45 00:02:07,434 --> 00:02:10,634 Speaker 4: Serave already a super affordable brand, but when you can 46 00:02:10,633 --> 00:02:12,354 Speaker 4: get a little bit of extra discount like why not 47 00:02:12,594 --> 00:02:15,194 Speaker 4: and sold Genera as well, which I feel like shouldn't 48 00:02:15,194 --> 00:02:15,754 Speaker 4: be a surprise. 49 00:02:15,874 --> 00:02:17,714 Speaker 1: They are so beloved gear. 50 00:02:17,514 --> 00:02:19,994 Speaker 4: Down Under and so again, anytime to score a little 51 00:02:19,994 --> 00:02:21,994 Speaker 4: bit of a discount, we should take it exactly. 52 00:02:22,034 --> 00:02:24,554 Speaker 3: Shout out to number sixty eight from Solider Genero, big fan. 53 00:02:24,874 --> 00:02:27,354 Speaker 3: Heading down the rest of us, we had Bio Dance, Eos, 54 00:02:27,434 --> 00:02:30,474 Speaker 3: Laura Gala, Clean Skin Club, Neutrophol, which is like a 55 00:02:30,514 --> 00:02:33,353 Speaker 3: hair supplement which I thought was really interesting, laurash Prose, 56 00:02:33,514 --> 00:02:35,554 Speaker 3: and Hero Cosmetics. And I think the thing that we're 57 00:02:35,554 --> 00:02:38,394 Speaker 3: really seeing across these brands are the things people use 58 00:02:38,394 --> 00:02:40,394 Speaker 3: every day that things are going to run out of. 59 00:02:40,394 --> 00:02:42,353 Speaker 3: They're things they want to purchase ahead of time while 60 00:02:42,354 --> 00:02:44,274 Speaker 3: it's on sale, which really is the trend for Black 61 00:02:44,314 --> 00:02:45,154 Speaker 3: Friday and beauty. 62 00:02:45,834 --> 00:02:48,594 Speaker 4: Okay, second one here, I'm gonna shove some news into 63 00:02:48,594 --> 00:02:50,634 Speaker 4: people's face in amongst the beauty it but I promise 64 00:02:50,634 --> 00:02:53,274 Speaker 4: there's a connection. So in case you missed it. In 65 00:02:53,314 --> 00:02:56,034 Speaker 4: two days time, everybody on vage of sixteen, they're about 66 00:02:56,074 --> 00:02:58,634 Speaker 4: to be booted off social media in Australia. All their 67 00:02:58,674 --> 00:03:01,034 Speaker 4: accounts are going to be deactivated as part of the 68 00:03:01,034 --> 00:03:06,034 Speaker 4: government world first social media ban, things like TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, 69 00:03:06,274 --> 00:03:08,994 Speaker 4: you know, all the play. So as part of that, 70 00:03:09,034 --> 00:03:11,434 Speaker 4: you're probably thinking, well, what has this got to do 71 00:03:11,474 --> 00:03:13,353 Speaker 4: with the beauty edit? Why is it being told to 72 00:03:13,434 --> 00:03:15,354 Speaker 4: me in a new beauty episode in cast you're going 73 00:03:15,434 --> 00:03:17,794 Speaker 4: to shed some light on this. What are the implications 74 00:03:18,154 --> 00:03:22,034 Speaker 4: for booting teens off the internet, off social media when 75 00:03:22,034 --> 00:03:23,114 Speaker 4: it comes to beauty. 76 00:03:23,114 --> 00:03:25,634 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's all about the rise of teens skincare, 77 00:03:25,634 --> 00:03:28,233 Speaker 3: and I think we've seen a lot of backlash from 78 00:03:28,394 --> 00:03:31,794 Speaker 3: parents and educators about the way that they're being influenced. 79 00:03:31,394 --> 00:03:32,474 Speaker 1: Towards beauty products. 80 00:03:32,474 --> 00:03:36,314 Speaker 3: Obviously SBF skincare, there's certain elements of skincare that are 81 00:03:36,394 --> 00:03:39,554 Speaker 3: for all, but especially the use of anti aging skincare. 82 00:03:39,554 --> 00:03:42,194 Speaker 3: And I think the point is that social media is 83 00:03:42,234 --> 00:03:43,994 Speaker 3: the key driver of this. So there's been a few 84 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:46,514 Speaker 3: studies on this. So we had one inclinic sy of 85 00:03:46,554 --> 00:03:50,154 Speaker 3: Dermatology that really spoke about teens using an increased amount 86 00:03:50,194 --> 00:03:53,554 Speaker 3: of often unsuitable skincare on their skin, fueled by TikTok. 87 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:56,114 Speaker 3: And there was another study that found that people around 88 00:03:56,154 --> 00:03:59,874 Speaker 3: the age of eleven were using potentially irritating active ingredients. 89 00:03:59,954 --> 00:04:02,194 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of this going on, And I 90 00:04:02,194 --> 00:04:05,234 Speaker 3: think the beauty implication of them being bearded off social 91 00:04:05,234 --> 00:04:05,674 Speaker 3: media is. 92 00:04:05,674 --> 00:04:07,754 Speaker 1: Will it have an impact on what they do? 93 00:04:07,874 --> 00:04:09,994 Speaker 3: I know, Taylor, you recently spoke to someone about all 94 00:04:10,034 --> 00:04:12,194 Speaker 3: the kind of loopholes that young people are using, Like, 95 00:04:12,674 --> 00:04:15,034 Speaker 3: surely they'll still find a way to share about beauty 96 00:04:15,074 --> 00:04:17,274 Speaker 3: even if it's not on Instagram, Facebook, et cetera. 97 00:04:17,394 --> 00:04:17,874 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 98 00:04:17,954 --> 00:04:19,834 Speaker 4: Like there's a whole bunch of new social media apps 99 00:04:19,834 --> 00:04:21,674 Speaker 4: that are popping up. All the teens are sort of 100 00:04:21,714 --> 00:04:24,433 Speaker 4: flocking there. There's lots of other little loopholes. If you 101 00:04:24,433 --> 00:04:26,474 Speaker 4: want to hear them, they'll be in the quickie from 102 00:04:26,553 --> 00:04:28,953 Speaker 4: last week. But I think it's interesting, right, like pros 103 00:04:28,993 --> 00:04:31,393 Speaker 4: and cons to everything you take kids of social media. 104 00:04:31,513 --> 00:04:33,713 Speaker 4: You hide them from some hums of the Internet, but 105 00:04:33,753 --> 00:04:36,274 Speaker 4: you also hide them from like a wealth of knowledge. 106 00:04:36,313 --> 00:04:39,514 Speaker 4: So for every kid that's slapping you know, retinol and 107 00:04:39,674 --> 00:04:42,593 Speaker 4: exfoliants and irritants on their face they probably don't need. 108 00:04:42,753 --> 00:04:44,273 Speaker 4: There's also a bunch of kids out there who are 109 00:04:44,354 --> 00:04:46,354 Speaker 4: learning about how to take care of their skin for 110 00:04:46,393 --> 00:04:48,953 Speaker 4: the first time as well, so it'll be really interesting 111 00:04:48,993 --> 00:04:52,073 Speaker 4: to see as well, like the decrease in kids popping 112 00:04:52,154 --> 00:04:54,514 Speaker 4: up places like Sephora. We know about like the Sephori 113 00:04:54,594 --> 00:04:57,553 Speaker 4: kids phenomenon that happened a few years ago and Mecca. 114 00:04:57,594 --> 00:05:00,113 Speaker 4: I wonder if this will have a real world effect 115 00:05:00,193 --> 00:05:02,714 Speaker 4: in real time on like the beauty industry in terms 116 00:05:02,753 --> 00:05:05,873 Speaker 4: of what people are buying and how much of it all. Right, cas, 117 00:05:05,953 --> 00:05:08,513 Speaker 4: last one for you, I'm about to expose myself, but 118 00:05:08,553 --> 00:05:11,113 Speaker 4: also maybe you when's the last time you checked the 119 00:05:11,154 --> 00:05:12,474 Speaker 4: expiry dates on your makeup. 120 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:14,753 Speaker 3: I actually had a really triggering experience for this the 121 00:05:14,794 --> 00:05:17,154 Speaker 3: other day because I was going through my skincare cabinet 122 00:05:17,193 --> 00:05:18,993 Speaker 3: pulling out things that I wanted to kind of pull 123 00:05:19,034 --> 00:05:21,153 Speaker 3: back into the routine, and most of it was expired 124 00:05:21,193 --> 00:05:23,113 Speaker 3: and it was quite a slap in the face. So 125 00:05:23,154 --> 00:05:25,273 Speaker 3: I thought we could go through some of the products. 126 00:05:24,794 --> 00:05:27,674 Speaker 4: That you should have a look at, maybe right now, Okay, okay, 127 00:05:27,674 --> 00:05:31,193 Speaker 4: because in my understanding is that yes, beauty, skincare, makeup, 128 00:05:31,234 --> 00:05:33,633 Speaker 4: they all have expiry dates. It's that little number on 129 00:05:33,714 --> 00:05:35,794 Speaker 4: the package. The problem is I don't remember when I 130 00:05:35,834 --> 00:05:37,313 Speaker 4: opened them from that date. 131 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:39,713 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, not a bad idea to write it 132 00:05:39,753 --> 00:05:42,073 Speaker 3: down if you're forgetful. I do tend to remember when 133 00:05:42,113 --> 00:05:44,074 Speaker 3: I made purchases. Or you can obviously always check when 134 00:05:44,073 --> 00:05:45,993 Speaker 3: you bought it. But a few things to know is 135 00:05:46,113 --> 00:05:48,074 Speaker 3: I think the main one being sunscreen. According to the 136 00:05:48,113 --> 00:05:51,713 Speaker 3: Cancer Council, yours should use the label, but most sunscreens 137 00:05:51,794 --> 00:05:53,474 Speaker 3: last between two and three years and should be sort 138 00:05:53,513 --> 00:05:56,153 Speaker 3: at a temperature below thirty degrees, which I actually wasn't 139 00:05:56,234 --> 00:05:59,914 Speaker 3: really across. Most of my sunscreens are at the beach 140 00:05:59,953 --> 00:06:00,593 Speaker 3: in the hot sun. 141 00:06:00,714 --> 00:06:01,113 Speaker 1: Totally. 142 00:06:01,193 --> 00:06:03,873 Speaker 4: Also, like you're using sunscreen every day, shouldn't be lasting 143 00:06:03,953 --> 00:06:04,553 Speaker 4: you three years. 144 00:06:04,794 --> 00:06:06,593 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's the point. We'll use it before 145 00:06:06,633 --> 00:06:09,474 Speaker 3: you get but just always check them. Always check the label. 146 00:06:09,834 --> 00:06:12,553 Speaker 3: Your pillows very interesting for those who are acne prone, 147 00:06:12,553 --> 00:06:15,354 Speaker 3: should be replaced every three years. 148 00:06:15,474 --> 00:06:17,674 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Okay, I love my pill I'm not 149 00:06:17,714 --> 00:06:18,674 Speaker 4: ready to break up with it. 150 00:06:18,873 --> 00:06:21,393 Speaker 3: Then we've got liquid foundation. This is generally good for 151 00:06:21,393 --> 00:06:23,994 Speaker 3: about a year. Hopefully you're getting through it before then. 152 00:06:24,073 --> 00:06:26,113 Speaker 3: But if you're a light foundation user, or if you 153 00:06:26,113 --> 00:06:29,234 Speaker 3: have a couple worth checking. And then your open mascaratube 154 00:06:29,313 --> 00:06:30,153 Speaker 3: it's only six. 155 00:06:29,993 --> 00:06:31,953 Speaker 4: Months, okay, that feels like not enough time. 156 00:06:31,993 --> 00:06:33,873 Speaker 1: I don't wear enough Musca off I know. 157 00:06:34,234 --> 00:06:36,873 Speaker 3: But then expire mascara Kenley to ie infection, so it 158 00:06:36,914 --> 00:06:40,393 Speaker 3: is really worth checking if you can a few other tips. 159 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:43,234 Speaker 3: If you're using actives and acids, definitely have a look 160 00:06:43,234 --> 00:06:45,914 Speaker 3: at that number because they expire way quicker than you 161 00:06:45,953 --> 00:06:48,354 Speaker 3: think and the actives degrade, so you're basically putting something 162 00:06:48,393 --> 00:06:50,633 Speaker 3: on your skin that's not going to work anymore. Wash 163 00:06:50,633 --> 00:06:53,593 Speaker 3: your brushes regularly, something that we all tend. 164 00:06:53,393 --> 00:06:53,794 Speaker 1: To not do. 165 00:06:53,794 --> 00:06:56,113 Speaker 3: But you can get little x brown brush cleaners now 166 00:06:56,154 --> 00:06:57,993 Speaker 3: that are really clean spot cleaning. 167 00:06:58,113 --> 00:07:00,513 Speaker 4: I will admit that I know when it's time to 168 00:07:00,513 --> 00:07:01,993 Speaker 4: clean my brushes because I'll get. 169 00:07:01,834 --> 00:07:02,993 Speaker 1: A little breakout here or there. 170 00:07:03,154 --> 00:07:04,873 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's because they're really dirty. 171 00:07:04,914 --> 00:07:05,833 Speaker 1: It's about time. 172 00:07:05,993 --> 00:07:08,474 Speaker 3: And then finally, just using scoop applicators if you have 173 00:07:08,513 --> 00:07:10,154 Speaker 3: a pot, so that you're not like sticking your fingers 174 00:07:10,154 --> 00:07:12,034 Speaker 3: in and contaminating it. So there are just a few 175 00:07:12,034 --> 00:07:13,874 Speaker 3: little hacks to get your skincare up to date. 176 00:07:13,994 --> 00:07:15,034 Speaker 1: Do a little end of your. 177 00:07:14,874 --> 00:07:17,514 Speaker 4: Clean up, Okay, it's an order in the bathroom cabinet tonight. 178 00:07:17,554 --> 00:07:19,514 Speaker 4: That's all for the Beauty Edit this week. Let's get 179 00:07:19,554 --> 00:07:21,393 Speaker 4: back to Q and A with Lene Kelly. 180 00:07:22,474 --> 00:07:24,754 Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything. 181 00:07:24,834 --> 00:07:25,954 Speaker 5: You ask plenty questions. 182 00:07:27,434 --> 00:07:29,114 Speaker 2: If you did a freaky Friday and you could switch 183 00:07:29,154 --> 00:07:30,994 Speaker 2: with anyone for a day, who would it be. 184 00:07:31,474 --> 00:07:36,033 Speaker 1: I've got absolutely no idea. Someone really wealthy. 185 00:07:36,434 --> 00:07:37,714 Speaker 2: Would you be, like I could ash in so you 186 00:07:37,714 --> 00:07:39,074 Speaker 2: could just lay there and get all the treatment. 187 00:07:39,234 --> 00:07:42,713 Speaker 1: No. No, I'd be someone that had a partner that 188 00:07:42,794 --> 00:07:44,554 Speaker 1: I find really attractive, so I can have sex with 189 00:07:44,594 --> 00:07:44,994 Speaker 1: them all day. 190 00:07:45,154 --> 00:07:45,314 Speaker 5: Oh. 191 00:07:45,393 --> 00:07:46,314 Speaker 1: Gross, that's amazing. 192 00:07:46,354 --> 00:07:48,233 Speaker 2: You'd be my husband, just to see what he thinks about. 193 00:07:48,474 --> 00:07:52,473 Speaker 1: No, that's boring. I choose like, who is someone who's 194 00:07:52,474 --> 00:07:54,234 Speaker 1: on your hall past. 195 00:07:54,393 --> 00:07:56,713 Speaker 2: I don't know who his wife is, but Lyn Manuel Miranda, 196 00:07:56,874 --> 00:07:57,754 Speaker 2: So his wife. 197 00:07:57,874 --> 00:07:59,593 Speaker 1: Okay, So you'd be his wife and then you could 198 00:07:59,594 --> 00:08:00,394 Speaker 1: have sex to him all day. 199 00:08:00,434 --> 00:08:00,594 Speaker 5: Oh. 200 00:08:00,634 --> 00:08:02,474 Speaker 2: I didn't think we're going to go there anyway. It's 201 00:08:02,474 --> 00:08:02,953 Speaker 2: a Monday. 202 00:08:03,074 --> 00:08:06,994 Speaker 1: Wow, clearly I'm a little bit freaky this Monday. You are, 203 00:08:07,114 --> 00:08:07,473 Speaker 1: aren't you. 204 00:08:07,794 --> 00:08:10,754 Speaker 2: It's a Monday, so we answer you be questions. I'm 205 00:08:10,794 --> 00:08:13,074 Speaker 2: so excited because our first question is a voice note. 206 00:08:13,194 --> 00:08:15,674 Speaker 2: We asked the ubis to send them. We do love 207 00:08:15,754 --> 00:08:18,914 Speaker 2: get voice, so send more. But we're going to answer 208 00:08:18,914 --> 00:08:21,754 Speaker 2: two amazing questions and then our beauty bart of the week. 209 00:08:21,754 --> 00:08:23,474 Speaker 2: We've both got something to show and tell, so make 210 00:08:23,474 --> 00:08:25,794 Speaker 2: sure you're watching along on YouTube because that's where you 211 00:08:25,834 --> 00:08:28,114 Speaker 2: can actually see the things exactly. 212 00:08:28,354 --> 00:08:31,314 Speaker 1: So let's kick things off with our voice note from 213 00:08:31,634 --> 00:08:33,874 Speaker 1: Megan high Le and Kelly. 214 00:08:34,674 --> 00:08:38,434 Speaker 5: Longtime listener, first time caller. Love listening to the pod 215 00:08:38,634 --> 00:08:40,594 Speaker 5: mostly at the gym. I don't know if that makes 216 00:08:40,594 --> 00:08:45,274 Speaker 5: you feel weird. I have a question that I hope Kelly. 217 00:08:45,514 --> 00:08:49,154 Speaker 5: Maybe you have also been dealing with this forty two 218 00:08:49,754 --> 00:08:55,473 Speaker 5: perimenopausal skin like city on mainly the arms, like forearms. 219 00:08:55,634 --> 00:08:59,674 Speaker 5: Not sure why they're but it's sort of getting floppy. 220 00:09:00,034 --> 00:09:03,434 Speaker 5: I can't quite explain it. Moisturizers don't seem to help. 221 00:09:03,514 --> 00:09:07,634 Speaker 5: I've recently introduced my face trett Noan a little bit 222 00:09:07,674 --> 00:09:10,833 Speaker 5: with body moisturizer. I feel like maybe there's a better 223 00:09:10,914 --> 00:09:13,394 Speaker 5: way to do this. Would love to hear your thoughts 224 00:09:13,434 --> 00:09:17,114 Speaker 5: as to what might help. Thanks so much, Bye, Okay, 225 00:09:17,154 --> 00:09:19,634 Speaker 5: I have a lot of opinions. I guess I should 226 00:09:19,674 --> 00:09:20,394 Speaker 5: say information. 227 00:09:20,594 --> 00:09:23,274 Speaker 2: However, I want to preface it with I'm not a dietitian, 228 00:09:23,514 --> 00:09:25,154 Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor, I'm not an intritionist. 229 00:09:25,194 --> 00:09:25,914 Speaker 1: I'm not a woo woo. 230 00:09:26,154 --> 00:09:28,713 Speaker 2: You are Perry, though I am Perry, and I do 231 00:09:29,634 --> 00:09:33,394 Speaker 2: relate to this from my life stage. Although she says, Kelly, yeah, 232 00:09:33,434 --> 00:09:36,034 Speaker 2: I wonder if she mixed us up, though I think 233 00:09:36,114 --> 00:09:37,914 Speaker 2: it's I you don't mind me mentioning just because you've 234 00:09:37,914 --> 00:09:39,674 Speaker 2: talked about it on your other podcast, why you've lost 235 00:09:39,714 --> 00:09:41,154 Speaker 2: a little bit of weight and it can happen from 236 00:09:41,194 --> 00:09:44,514 Speaker 2: weight loss as well. Oh, actually I do definitely on 237 00:09:44,634 --> 00:09:47,354 Speaker 2: my stomach, but that was after I gave birthday mine 238 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:49,354 Speaker 2: from carrying Alexander. He was a huge baby, and it's 239 00:09:49,394 --> 00:09:50,714 Speaker 2: just always going to be there and I don't care, 240 00:09:50,834 --> 00:09:53,394 Speaker 2: so let me give you some informations. But I was 241 00:09:53,434 --> 00:09:57,154 Speaker 2: like lee Is Brunette, Yeah, I'm Perry, and getting that 242 00:09:57,314 --> 00:10:01,154 Speaker 2: crepiness like paper like my mom, like a stuck tissue paper. Anyway, 243 00:10:02,354 --> 00:10:04,834 Speaker 2: it is her skin's like tissue paper, gets like you're 244 00:10:04,874 --> 00:10:08,314 Speaker 2: born bored and then you go down to like tissue paper, yes, 245 00:10:08,554 --> 00:10:13,074 Speaker 2: and rice things that packing and you can wet them 246 00:10:13,114 --> 00:10:17,234 Speaker 2: and they shrink you. Okay, So my lovely friend Megan. 247 00:10:17,474 --> 00:10:19,434 Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not an expert, speak to you, doctor, 248 00:10:19,514 --> 00:10:23,354 Speaker 2: but unfortunately, well not unfortunately, but most of the privilege 249 00:10:23,634 --> 00:10:26,234 Speaker 2: aging is a privilege. Most of it is lifestyle related 250 00:10:26,594 --> 00:10:29,394 Speaker 2: first and foremost it's just gonna happen. It's just like 251 00:10:30,194 --> 00:10:32,194 Speaker 2: this is also an awful analogy, but you know, an 252 00:10:32,234 --> 00:10:34,234 Speaker 2: apple fresh off the tree is fresh, and then it 253 00:10:34,354 --> 00:10:34,714 Speaker 2: kind of just. 254 00:10:35,154 --> 00:10:37,594 Speaker 1: Oh my, I know that is so accurate. 255 00:10:37,674 --> 00:10:39,754 Speaker 2: But if you're a supermarket you could just spray it 256 00:10:39,834 --> 00:10:41,754 Speaker 2: with heaps of wax and kind of keep it going. 257 00:10:41,914 --> 00:10:45,274 Speaker 2: But it's still with that age. So mostly it's lifestyle. 258 00:10:45,394 --> 00:10:48,834 Speaker 2: So you want to do some strength training or weight training. 259 00:10:49,194 --> 00:10:51,154 Speaker 2: Everyone gets told this as soon as you hit Perry 260 00:10:51,194 --> 00:10:54,554 Speaker 2: and the algorithm finds you because building muscle makes the 261 00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:57,074 Speaker 2: skin appear firmer because underneath is something firm, if that 262 00:10:57,154 --> 00:11:01,874 Speaker 2: makes sense. Protein rich food and diet because protein is king. 263 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:04,354 Speaker 2: This is for everyone, not just when you're pary, but it. 264 00:11:04,554 --> 00:11:08,953 Speaker 1: Is very important. When I was interviewing Susan Arrow from Neurium, 265 00:11:09,074 --> 00:11:10,833 Speaker 1: she was actually, I know, I know, I love it. 266 00:11:10,834 --> 00:11:12,634 Speaker 1: I think I listened to a three time Oh my goodness, 267 00:11:12,754 --> 00:11:15,834 Speaker 1: but I didn't realize how important, Like I've always known 268 00:11:15,874 --> 00:11:17,794 Speaker 1: that weight training is important, but she was even talking 269 00:11:17,874 --> 00:11:20,394 Speaker 1: about how it's not just Pilati's it's important, like you 270 00:11:20,474 --> 00:11:22,474 Speaker 1: need to be lifting weights. 271 00:11:22,154 --> 00:11:24,154 Speaker 2: Yes, but again, make sure you know what you're doing, 272 00:11:24,154 --> 00:11:26,354 Speaker 2: because I've once done a catabell on my own and 273 00:11:26,674 --> 00:11:28,554 Speaker 2: literally was in physio for. 274 00:11:28,874 --> 00:11:32,474 Speaker 1: Why does that shock? Probably absolutely no one exploices me. Well, 275 00:11:32,554 --> 00:11:34,314 Speaker 1: I was like I to say it, Yeah, I'm just 276 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:35,314 Speaker 1: gonna swiel it this way. 277 00:11:35,354 --> 00:11:42,474 Speaker 2: And for me, who's taken a break from any exercise, 278 00:11:42,474 --> 00:11:44,594 Speaker 2: couldn't even lift a pencil. So I've gone back to 279 00:11:44,674 --> 00:11:47,474 Speaker 2: reform of polarts just to get some semblance of a 280 00:11:47,554 --> 00:11:49,474 Speaker 2: muscle so I can lift more than a pencil. But 281 00:11:49,594 --> 00:11:53,234 Speaker 2: obviously speak to a doctor. We're not doctors. As I mentioned, 282 00:11:53,314 --> 00:11:56,634 Speaker 2: protein rich food, and then the next one is collagen. Now, listen, 283 00:11:57,434 --> 00:12:01,833 Speaker 2: collagen needs amino acids to keep being collogeny. Do you 284 00:12:01,914 --> 00:12:03,114 Speaker 2: know where amino acids come from? 285 00:12:03,434 --> 00:12:03,474 Speaker 4: No? 286 00:12:03,914 --> 00:12:06,874 Speaker 2: Protein rich foods? Oh, I know, boring, boring, I mean 287 00:12:07,154 --> 00:12:09,514 Speaker 2: the beauty stuff in a moment. Lastly, before we get 288 00:12:09,514 --> 00:12:11,833 Speaker 2: into the actual beauty things, hydration and a lot of 289 00:12:11,874 --> 00:12:14,794 Speaker 2: people really kind of realize now that drinking lots of 290 00:12:14,914 --> 00:12:19,274 Speaker 2: water doesn't directly impact your skin type. Say you're dry, 291 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:22,914 Speaker 2: drinking lots of water can't change your skin type. However, 292 00:12:23,434 --> 00:12:26,714 Speaker 2: your skin and your body needs hydration, so the collagen 293 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:30,554 Speaker 2: fibers a bit more trampoline, a bit more bouncy. And 294 00:12:30,634 --> 00:12:32,354 Speaker 2: the way I can illustrate that is, if you've ever 295 00:12:32,434 --> 00:12:34,514 Speaker 2: had a few too many drinks and woken up the 296 00:12:34,554 --> 00:12:37,474 Speaker 2: next day, then your skin is dehydrated and you just 297 00:12:37,514 --> 00:12:40,794 Speaker 2: look older and wrinkler, and your skin needs more juice. 298 00:12:41,114 --> 00:12:42,194 Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm not. 299 00:12:42,274 --> 00:12:44,434 Speaker 2: Saying just when you're hungover or if you hungover, but 300 00:12:44,914 --> 00:12:47,634 Speaker 2: more hydration is better for your whole body, but mostly 301 00:12:47,674 --> 00:12:50,394 Speaker 2: your collagen to be like a little trampoline. Okay, so 302 00:12:50,514 --> 00:12:52,994 Speaker 2: do all of the things that I'm not doing well same? 303 00:12:53,074 --> 00:12:54,833 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what live your life last on 304 00:12:54,914 --> 00:12:57,954 Speaker 2: that just healthy food. It's like putting topicals on your skin. 305 00:12:58,034 --> 00:13:00,794 Speaker 2: So vitamin's AC and E are antioxidants and they fight 306 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:04,034 Speaker 2: free radicals, which are the bad guys Amiga three's, which 307 00:13:04,114 --> 00:13:05,713 Speaker 2: is just like putting a face oil on, but on 308 00:13:05,794 --> 00:13:09,674 Speaker 2: your insights. In terms of treatments and actual products, what 309 00:13:09,834 --> 00:13:14,074 Speaker 2: do you think because it's hard when it's your whole 310 00:13:14,154 --> 00:13:17,754 Speaker 2: body is expensive, like it just costs an absolute fortune 311 00:13:17,754 --> 00:13:21,713 Speaker 2: and nothing is guaranteed to actually it is if you 312 00:13:21,874 --> 00:13:24,914 Speaker 2: spend thousands of dollars, tens of thousands. So maybe go 313 00:13:24,954 --> 00:13:26,554 Speaker 2: back to freaky frit A and b kim and it's 314 00:13:26,554 --> 00:13:30,154 Speaker 2: probably working for me. Yeah, So topically, be mindful that 315 00:13:30,554 --> 00:13:32,554 Speaker 2: there's not going to be a miracle. Things can help, 316 00:13:32,874 --> 00:13:35,754 Speaker 2: you have to be consistent, but still it's going to happen. 317 00:13:35,874 --> 00:13:39,834 Speaker 1: It's mainly about keeping your skin hydrated and nourish, yeah, 318 00:13:40,394 --> 00:13:42,634 Speaker 1: from the outside as well as the inside, so that 319 00:13:42,874 --> 00:13:47,874 Speaker 1: it doesn't appear correct crapy and sort of it's the appearance. 320 00:13:48,434 --> 00:13:50,274 Speaker 2: You hear that with cellulite as well, because you can't 321 00:13:50,274 --> 00:13:53,474 Speaker 2: really fix it, so it's minimize the appearance of so 322 00:13:53,594 --> 00:13:55,914 Speaker 2: Vitamin A products of course will help a little bit 323 00:13:56,394 --> 00:14:00,274 Speaker 2: that promotes collagen cell turnover. Chemical exolients do that to 324 00:14:00,434 --> 00:14:02,354 Speaker 2: a degree as well, but don't go ham on those 325 00:14:02,914 --> 00:14:05,994 Speaker 2: your favorite peptides because they're fermi peptide. 326 00:14:06,634 --> 00:14:08,594 Speaker 1: But again talking a full body, so. 327 00:14:09,594 --> 00:14:12,074 Speaker 2: You know, just manager expectations and then you'll see a 328 00:14:12,074 --> 00:14:14,474 Speaker 2: lot of firming lotions that have got like caffeine in them, 329 00:14:14,914 --> 00:14:17,794 Speaker 2: and obviously hyaluronic acid is hydrating and that's basically because 330 00:14:17,834 --> 00:14:20,474 Speaker 2: it's just going to be an instant plump or a 331 00:14:20,554 --> 00:14:23,674 Speaker 2: booster circulation. So not a huge amount you can do 332 00:14:24,074 --> 00:14:28,274 Speaker 2: at home, but still worth doing. We need to hydrate anyway, right, yeah, exactly, 333 00:14:28,674 --> 00:14:30,834 Speaker 2: And then inclining, there's a couple of options. Again expensive, 334 00:14:30,954 --> 00:14:33,474 Speaker 2: some downtime, but it depends you know, up to you 335 00:14:33,594 --> 00:14:36,034 Speaker 2: like for example, for me, it's mostly my arms. I 336 00:14:36,114 --> 00:14:37,914 Speaker 2: don't care like, I'm still not going to do any 337 00:14:37,954 --> 00:14:39,714 Speaker 2: of this. I care more about my face. But you 338 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:41,114 Speaker 2: don't have to get a whole body done. 339 00:14:41,514 --> 00:14:44,634 Speaker 1: You could just get some specific areas you're maybe a 340 00:14:44,674 --> 00:14:46,594 Speaker 1: little bit more self conscious about. Like if I was 341 00:14:46,674 --> 00:14:49,034 Speaker 1: going to bother with one area, yes, it would be 342 00:14:49,154 --> 00:14:52,754 Speaker 1: my stomach because because we're stretched. And well, we went, 343 00:14:53,154 --> 00:14:55,114 Speaker 1: but both of us got very prepre. 344 00:14:54,794 --> 00:14:58,394 Speaker 2: I was humans the other day and I was induced 345 00:14:58,394 --> 00:14:59,874 Speaker 2: because they said your baby's so big, and then he 346 00:14:59,914 --> 00:15:01,354 Speaker 2: was three point one here lost Okay. 347 00:15:01,194 --> 00:15:05,034 Speaker 1: Well Lenny was big, but I was like, why was I? 348 00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:08,874 Speaker 1: I guess it's the fluid. Some people just carry so differently. 349 00:15:09,314 --> 00:15:11,154 Speaker 1: But yeah, so you go out and then you come 350 00:15:11,234 --> 00:15:14,154 Speaker 1: back in and because both of us were over thirty, 351 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:16,914 Speaker 1: No it wasn't actually, but in our thirties when we 352 00:15:17,074 --> 00:15:20,794 Speaker 1: had the boys. Your skin doesn't bounce back. It's already 353 00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:23,674 Speaker 1: like oh thanks, and I don't care like I don't human. 354 00:15:24,034 --> 00:15:25,594 Speaker 1: But if I was going to do one area, it 355 00:15:25,634 --> 00:15:26,914 Speaker 1: would probably be my stomach. 356 00:15:26,954 --> 00:15:29,714 Speaker 2: Interesting well, for that, I would recommend some sort of 357 00:15:29,794 --> 00:15:33,234 Speaker 2: ultrasound treatment like a HYPHO that's a bit more hardcore 358 00:15:33,314 --> 00:15:36,714 Speaker 2: than radio frequency, so RF micro and needling more for 359 00:15:36,794 --> 00:15:39,594 Speaker 2: your eight homage that's like radiofrequency, you'd. 360 00:15:39,474 --> 00:15:40,274 Speaker 1: Probably start there. 361 00:15:40,914 --> 00:15:43,354 Speaker 2: Then you've got your ultrasound therapies like your high food 362 00:15:43,394 --> 00:15:47,194 Speaker 2: that works deeper than radio frequencies. And then lastly, but 363 00:15:47,314 --> 00:15:48,594 Speaker 2: if you really care, a lot of people do this 364 00:15:48,634 --> 00:15:51,314 Speaker 2: to their face and neck. Is like the laser skin tightening, 365 00:15:51,434 --> 00:15:55,794 Speaker 2: so fractional, the hectic, the heck throa off your whole thing. 366 00:15:55,834 --> 00:15:57,634 Speaker 1: Also, can you imagine how much that would be on 367 00:15:57,754 --> 00:16:00,554 Speaker 1: body parts though it's so expensive on your face. 368 00:16:00,434 --> 00:16:02,794 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I agree, But also your whole face 369 00:16:02,874 --> 00:16:04,554 Speaker 2: tools up. You can't even really see or eat. So 370 00:16:04,594 --> 00:16:06,514 Speaker 2: if you really hated your tummy, for example, I don't 371 00:16:06,514 --> 00:16:07,834 Speaker 2: know if they can even do it on there, but 372 00:16:07,874 --> 00:16:08,874 Speaker 2: at least you could like go. 373 00:16:09,034 --> 00:16:11,714 Speaker 1: Hours in an hour. I think I'd actually rather get 374 00:16:11,794 --> 00:16:17,554 Speaker 1: a mini facelift than that. Oh see, I'm considering CO two. Really. 375 00:16:17,754 --> 00:16:21,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe not now because I've had friends doing winter, 376 00:16:21,834 --> 00:16:23,674 Speaker 2: but because I don't get anti wrinkle. Because it's good 377 00:16:23,674 --> 00:16:25,874 Speaker 2: for pigmentation, it's good for timing, it's good for everything 378 00:16:26,314 --> 00:16:29,474 Speaker 2: anyway down the track. So you've got radio frequency, ultrasound 379 00:16:29,594 --> 00:16:32,194 Speaker 2: or lasers, but go to a reputable place, talk to them, 380 00:16:32,474 --> 00:16:34,274 Speaker 2: don't make the decision on the swat and have it done. 381 00:16:34,514 --> 00:16:37,154 Speaker 2: Don't go for a discount pack. Really do you research 382 00:16:37,154 --> 00:16:44,354 Speaker 2: if you want to do anyways, Amy has sent to 383 00:16:44,474 --> 00:16:47,474 Speaker 2: us as steamy dear, holding that quite far away, you're 384 00:16:47,474 --> 00:16:49,714 Speaker 2: starting to need glasses. No, it's because the mic was 385 00:16:49,754 --> 00:16:54,034 Speaker 2: in the way high ladies literally halfway through a shower 386 00:16:54,154 --> 00:16:56,474 Speaker 2: and thought of a question I had to ask immediately. 387 00:16:57,154 --> 00:16:59,754 Speaker 1: Do I think she stopped the shower and typed it. 388 00:16:59,994 --> 00:17:01,754 Speaker 1: I do, because that's what I would do if I 389 00:17:01,794 --> 00:17:03,354 Speaker 1: had a thought that I really didn't want to lose. 390 00:17:03,874 --> 00:17:06,314 Speaker 1: I just get my phone in there, I say hey Siri, 391 00:17:06,394 --> 00:17:08,313 Speaker 1: and then I text myself, yeah, you're smart, though I 392 00:17:08,394 --> 00:17:11,194 Speaker 1: don't ever think to I saw someone using Syria the 393 00:17:11,274 --> 00:17:11,634 Speaker 1: other day. 394 00:17:11,874 --> 00:17:13,954 Speaker 2: I use the actually everything, but then I swear to 395 00:17:13,954 --> 00:17:16,354 Speaker 2: it her when she gets wrong. Oh that's not anyway, 396 00:17:16,354 --> 00:17:17,593 Speaker 2: poor Amy, She's turned the shower off. 397 00:17:17,674 --> 00:17:20,194 Speaker 1: Do I need to remove my makeup before I exfoliate 398 00:17:20,314 --> 00:17:23,073 Speaker 1: my face? I usually only wear sunscreen and a light 399 00:17:23,194 --> 00:17:26,154 Speaker 1: layer of it cosmetic CC, and I've always cleansed with 400 00:17:26,234 --> 00:17:30,474 Speaker 1: my cellar water before exfoliation. I use a gentle chemical exfoliator, 401 00:17:30,474 --> 00:17:32,714 Speaker 1: by the way, and I almost always exfoliate my face 402 00:17:32,914 --> 00:17:36,234 Speaker 1: in the shower. That's the pause and immediate messaging, and 403 00:17:36,314 --> 00:17:39,114 Speaker 1: then cleanse with a face wash afterwards to rinse off 404 00:17:39,154 --> 00:17:41,834 Speaker 1: any lingering exfoliant. I can be a bit of a 405 00:17:41,914 --> 00:17:44,034 Speaker 1: lazy girl. So it occurred to me, after forty years 406 00:17:44,074 --> 00:17:46,194 Speaker 1: on this planet, that I could have been saving time 407 00:17:46,314 --> 00:17:49,634 Speaker 1: and skipping the first cleanse. I mean, chemical exfoliator is 408 00:17:50,194 --> 00:17:51,234 Speaker 1: just going to take that off, right. 409 00:17:51,834 --> 00:17:55,034 Speaker 2: But wait, there's more this question So that's now this 410 00:17:55,194 --> 00:17:55,994 Speaker 2: is Kelly speaking. 411 00:17:56,194 --> 00:17:59,074 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was the end of Amy's DM. But 412 00:17:59,194 --> 00:18:03,034 Speaker 1: then Kelly speaking, But wait, there's more. This question prompted 413 00:18:03,074 --> 00:18:05,834 Speaker 1: you beauty producer Sophie to ask her, I want to 414 00:18:06,074 --> 00:18:08,434 Speaker 1: the box off. She made her remember something she's been 415 00:18:08,514 --> 00:18:12,914 Speaker 1: meaning to ask us for ages. Sophie, I read an 416 00:18:12,994 --> 00:18:15,273 Speaker 1: article last night that said that you shouldn't cleanse your 417 00:18:15,314 --> 00:18:18,514 Speaker 1: face in the shower. What tell me if that's true 418 00:18:18,634 --> 00:18:22,273 Speaker 1: and why? Okay, great questions, Sophie and Amy. We're all 419 00:18:22,314 --> 00:18:22,793 Speaker 1: in the shower. 420 00:18:23,514 --> 00:18:29,074 Speaker 2: Okay, Amy, I love your immediacy and curiosity. Look, short 421 00:18:29,114 --> 00:18:31,234 Speaker 2: answer is, yeah, you do. You do need to take 422 00:18:31,274 --> 00:18:34,914 Speaker 2: off your makeup and your skincare before you get in 423 00:18:35,034 --> 00:18:39,354 Speaker 2: the shower. Makeup, skincare, sunscreen, and definitely before you chemical exfoliate. 424 00:18:39,434 --> 00:18:41,194 Speaker 2: You say, do I need to remove my makeup before 425 00:18:41,194 --> 00:18:42,513 Speaker 2: I exfoliate my face? Oh? 426 00:18:42,554 --> 00:18:42,874 Speaker 5: My gosh. 427 00:18:42,994 --> 00:18:47,994 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so exfoliation is not removal. Your removal is 428 00:18:48,034 --> 00:18:51,273 Speaker 2: to take off debris, sunscreen, makeup. Exfoliation is there to 429 00:18:51,354 --> 00:18:53,274 Speaker 2: munch at the skin. Its job is not to munch 430 00:18:53,314 --> 00:18:55,474 Speaker 2: at makeup and sunscreen. It doesn't know how to do that. 431 00:18:55,594 --> 00:18:56,674 Speaker 1: It's like great analogy. 432 00:18:56,794 --> 00:18:59,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like trying to feed Carely a remote control. 433 00:18:59,634 --> 00:19:02,474 Speaker 1: She can't eat that. She can eat, she explained, she 434 00:19:02,634 --> 00:19:06,434 Speaker 1: can eat, you know, food, but not a remote control. Soo, 435 00:19:07,194 --> 00:19:08,714 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Brain today? 436 00:19:08,994 --> 00:19:10,794 Speaker 2: Well, this just blew my mind and then I have 437 00:19:10,954 --> 00:19:13,594 Speaker 2: to ask her a question. She's not here though, but yes, 438 00:19:14,114 --> 00:19:16,354 Speaker 2: what ideally we want to do is cleanse before the shower. 439 00:19:16,714 --> 00:19:18,474 Speaker 2: So what I do is, because I also am a 440 00:19:18,554 --> 00:19:21,874 Speaker 2: lazy girl, is I start my oil or balm cleanser 441 00:19:21,914 --> 00:19:22,394 Speaker 2: out of the shower. 442 00:19:22,474 --> 00:19:24,794 Speaker 1: I've turned the shower on. Should should? She should? 443 00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:27,513 Speaker 2: Then I get in the shower and then I emulsify 444 00:19:27,594 --> 00:19:30,314 Speaker 2: and remove. Then I do a gentle second cleanse in 445 00:19:30,354 --> 00:19:33,234 Speaker 2: the shower cream cleanser or milk or whatever. But Amy, 446 00:19:33,274 --> 00:19:35,634 Speaker 2: you really shouldn't be I mean, the police won't come, 447 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,754 Speaker 2: but you really shouldn't be using a chemical exfolient in 448 00:19:37,794 --> 00:19:38,234 Speaker 2: the shower. 449 00:19:38,754 --> 00:19:39,594 Speaker 1: I don't know really no. 450 00:19:40,154 --> 00:19:42,313 Speaker 2: I mean maybe she's just standing there, but the water's 451 00:19:42,394 --> 00:19:44,714 Speaker 2: not on because what it's gonna do, it's gonna dilute 452 00:19:44,754 --> 00:19:47,074 Speaker 2: the product. The product isn't actually gonna work like the 453 00:19:47,114 --> 00:19:50,514 Speaker 2: water turns it off and it can definitely cause irritation. 454 00:19:51,034 --> 00:19:54,754 Speaker 2: So no water and chemical exfoliants together, like definitely not 455 00:19:54,834 --> 00:19:55,554 Speaker 2: your Paula's choice. 456 00:19:55,554 --> 00:19:55,994 Speaker 1: BHA. 457 00:19:56,514 --> 00:19:58,954 Speaker 2: There's some body products that are made for the shower 458 00:19:58,994 --> 00:20:01,474 Speaker 2: that have chemical exfolient in it. That's different because they're 459 00:20:01,474 --> 00:20:03,874 Speaker 2: formulated that way. It's also in your body, not yeah, 460 00:20:04,034 --> 00:20:06,194 Speaker 2: but it's formulated to be wet with other stuff. So 461 00:20:06,274 --> 00:20:08,793 Speaker 2: if we're talking just let's use Fuller's choice as an example. 462 00:20:08,914 --> 00:20:11,554 Speaker 2: That needs to go on fresh skin that's not wet, 463 00:20:11,994 --> 00:20:14,034 Speaker 2: so please don't do that. So she's talking about a 464 00:20:14,114 --> 00:20:17,674 Speaker 2: physical exfoliant, though, like say the gemological chemical, I use 465 00:20:17,714 --> 00:20:21,994 Speaker 2: a gentle chemical exfoliator. Firstly, your chemical exfoliator is not 466 00:20:22,114 --> 00:20:24,594 Speaker 2: a cleanser, and your chemical exfoliator is not allowed in 467 00:20:24,674 --> 00:20:25,074 Speaker 2: the shower. 468 00:20:25,354 --> 00:20:26,793 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean, do what you want. I mean, 469 00:20:26,874 --> 00:20:30,834 Speaker 1: if someone's listening though, and they do use a physical exfoliator. 470 00:20:30,274 --> 00:20:32,594 Speaker 2: Totally, oh my gosh, that's fine. Sometimes if I'm going 471 00:20:32,674 --> 00:20:34,354 Speaker 2: to do that after I've done my second cleanse, I 472 00:20:34,514 --> 00:20:36,513 Speaker 2: just have mine, which is a bit it's got a 473 00:20:36,554 --> 00:20:39,594 Speaker 2: bit gross, but like my dermologic and microfoliant just kind 474 00:20:39,634 --> 00:20:41,674 Speaker 2: of out there. I kind of dry my hands a bit, 475 00:20:41,874 --> 00:20:43,634 Speaker 2: put a bit on, and then just drop a few 476 00:20:43,674 --> 00:20:46,154 Speaker 2: bits of water and make that muddy kind of thing. 477 00:20:46,434 --> 00:20:47,674 Speaker 1: I do that in there. That's fine. 478 00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:50,354 Speaker 2: But yeah, chemical exfoliance will be turned off by the water, 479 00:20:50,794 --> 00:20:54,273 Speaker 2: but be diluted and it could really cause irritation. You 480 00:20:54,274 --> 00:20:57,474 Speaker 2: don't want to do that now, Hi, sofam point looking 481 00:20:57,474 --> 00:21:00,553 Speaker 2: at sofa, this is all really interesting and related. Technically, 482 00:21:00,874 --> 00:21:03,434 Speaker 2: you shouldn't well, It depends on how you shower, but 483 00:21:03,514 --> 00:21:05,234 Speaker 2: technically you shouldn't cleanse your face in the shower. 484 00:21:05,394 --> 00:21:08,074 Speaker 1: A lot of the skincare xp say that you should. 485 00:21:08,474 --> 00:21:08,794 Speaker 4: I do. 486 00:21:09,234 --> 00:21:11,514 Speaker 1: I do too, and I always I do the first. 487 00:21:11,714 --> 00:21:13,514 Speaker 1: I do my oil cleans in the shower too. 488 00:21:13,714 --> 00:21:13,914 Speaker 2: Yeah. 489 00:21:14,514 --> 00:21:16,954 Speaker 1: The reason that they say you shouldn't, there's a couple 490 00:21:16,994 --> 00:21:19,034 Speaker 1: of reasons, but the main one is is that your 491 00:21:19,634 --> 00:21:22,234 Speaker 1: water is generally way too hot a shower because you 492 00:21:22,354 --> 00:21:24,634 Speaker 1: only want luke or water for your face, and then 493 00:21:24,714 --> 00:21:26,474 Speaker 1: it's going to be causing a lot of damage. It 494 00:21:26,554 --> 00:21:30,794 Speaker 1: can break capillories, it just it just deteriorates the barrier exactly. 495 00:21:30,954 --> 00:21:33,074 Speaker 1: So that's why they say don't cleanse. 496 00:21:32,954 --> 00:21:34,834 Speaker 2: So because people might cleanse and then go like that, 497 00:21:35,074 --> 00:21:36,874 Speaker 2: like pummeling water on your face. 498 00:21:37,434 --> 00:21:41,194 Speaker 1: No, not, don't do that. I don't have a hot shower. 499 00:21:41,514 --> 00:21:42,194 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have. 500 00:21:42,234 --> 00:21:45,634 Speaker 2: Burning I hate. But I don't cleanse in my morning shower. 501 00:21:45,874 --> 00:21:48,954 Speaker 2: If I'm just like doing a rinse, it's quite lukewarm. 502 00:21:49,034 --> 00:21:50,594 Speaker 2: And I might do a gentle cleans if I have 503 00:21:50,674 --> 00:21:53,793 Speaker 2: at my salad, but at night I do it all 504 00:21:53,834 --> 00:21:54,314 Speaker 2: at the basin. 505 00:21:54,794 --> 00:21:57,994 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that if you're having really hot showers 506 00:21:58,074 --> 00:22:00,034 Speaker 1: and you put, you're the type of person that would 507 00:22:00,114 --> 00:22:03,194 Speaker 1: put I don't often wash my hair in the shower. 508 00:22:03,794 --> 00:22:06,234 Speaker 1: I don't often ever wash my hair, like say, I 509 00:22:06,434 --> 00:22:10,714 Speaker 1: wash my hair like separately where in the shower, but 510 00:22:10,874 --> 00:22:11,994 Speaker 1: not while I'm having a shower. 511 00:22:12,114 --> 00:22:14,394 Speaker 2: Okay, it's like I get it. You kind of section 512 00:22:14,514 --> 00:22:14,954 Speaker 2: it off as a. 513 00:22:14,954 --> 00:22:16,954 Speaker 1: Separate step, like I've got one of the things that 514 00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:20,194 Speaker 1: comes off it, Yeah, the head, Yes, and I put 515 00:22:20,234 --> 00:22:22,434 Speaker 1: my head over the bath part of the shower and 516 00:22:22,514 --> 00:22:24,034 Speaker 1: do It's actually also a really good point. 517 00:22:24,034 --> 00:22:25,353 Speaker 2: It depends what allder you do it, because if you're 518 00:22:25,434 --> 00:22:27,234 Speaker 2: washing your hair, the residu you will go on your 519 00:22:27,274 --> 00:22:29,354 Speaker 2: face and that's not good, Like do you know what 520 00:22:29,354 --> 00:22:29,593 Speaker 2: I mean? 521 00:22:29,674 --> 00:22:31,914 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also not something you can really help though if. 522 00:22:31,874 --> 00:22:34,914 Speaker 2: You're but that's why the order, like you should wash 523 00:22:35,034 --> 00:22:36,994 Speaker 2: your hair first and if you're going to cleanse in 524 00:22:37,034 --> 00:22:38,793 Speaker 2: the shower last, so maybe turn it down to lukewarm 525 00:22:38,794 --> 00:22:39,754 Speaker 2: and then in the shower. 526 00:22:39,914 --> 00:22:41,474 Speaker 1: It just depends how you do it, Like, yeah, I 527 00:22:41,554 --> 00:22:44,954 Speaker 1: can cleanse in the shower because I don't wash my hair, 528 00:22:45,834 --> 00:22:49,434 Speaker 1: so I'm never putting my whole head under the streaming 529 00:22:49,514 --> 00:22:51,914 Speaker 1: water and it's not that hot. I always have lukewarm shower. 530 00:22:51,994 --> 00:22:54,314 Speaker 2: Yeah. And one point, I guess one more to make is, 531 00:22:54,354 --> 00:22:57,554 Speaker 2: which is so counterintuitive, but too much water really dries 532 00:22:57,594 --> 00:22:58,914 Speaker 2: your skin out. So if you're in the shower for 533 00:22:58,994 --> 00:23:01,394 Speaker 2: a long time, well even any water, yeah, it just 534 00:23:01,474 --> 00:23:02,314 Speaker 2: zaps all the moistow. 535 00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:04,074 Speaker 1: I think about when you're on holidays, if you're in 536 00:23:04,154 --> 00:23:05,114 Speaker 1: the ocean every single. 537 00:23:04,954 --> 00:23:06,514 Speaker 2: Day, think about when you go puni in the bath 538 00:23:07,354 --> 00:23:09,794 Speaker 2: your skin has is like literally had all the moist 539 00:23:09,834 --> 00:23:13,674 Speaker 2: just sucked out it or filled up anyway. So look, Amy, 540 00:23:13,794 --> 00:23:15,474 Speaker 2: you're doing everything wrong, but we love you. 541 00:23:15,634 --> 00:23:18,754 Speaker 1: I don't care. But it's beauty. Like if it's not 542 00:23:18,954 --> 00:23:21,114 Speaker 1: exactly skin likes to go for it. I break the 543 00:23:21,194 --> 00:23:29,834 Speaker 1: rules all the time. All right, beauty. Bye of the week. 544 00:23:29,874 --> 00:23:32,714 Speaker 2: We've both got show and tell. Kelly mccaren, I've been 545 00:23:32,754 --> 00:23:34,714 Speaker 2: talking a lot, so oh want you to show me. 546 00:23:35,154 --> 00:23:38,793 Speaker 1: It's silly season. There's a lot of Kelly season. 547 00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:43,434 Speaker 2: There's a lot of parties and soirees and such a 548 00:23:43,994 --> 00:23:46,394 Speaker 2: for me, but keep going for a lot of even 549 00:23:46,594 --> 00:23:49,513 Speaker 2: think about family, christmasciety. A lot of people might be 550 00:23:49,834 --> 00:23:53,754 Speaker 2: more interested than normal to delve into the world of 551 00:23:53,994 --> 00:23:56,513 Speaker 2: a false eyelab. Absolutely now is the time but a 552 00:23:56,594 --> 00:23:59,794 Speaker 2: lot of people find them very hard to apply. So 553 00:23:59,954 --> 00:24:01,954 Speaker 2: this is just a very really the ones you've brought 554 00:24:01,994 --> 00:24:05,714 Speaker 2: the Well, this is why my tip is when you're 555 00:24:05,834 --> 00:24:07,794 Speaker 2: actually in the shops looking, I want you to have 556 00:24:08,354 --> 00:24:11,674 Speaker 2: a look for specific types. So I've got two different 557 00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:14,033 Speaker 2: types here to show you. So this is you definitely 558 00:24:14,114 --> 00:24:16,154 Speaker 2: have to go over to YouTube to have a look 559 00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:17,114 Speaker 2: at what I'm talking about. 560 00:24:17,234 --> 00:24:21,554 Speaker 1: So here is one lash. They're very hard to show, 561 00:24:21,554 --> 00:24:26,794 Speaker 1: aren't they. This is one strip lash. It is a mustache. 562 00:24:27,234 --> 00:24:29,434 Speaker 1: It's ginormous. But this is what a lot of them 563 00:24:29,474 --> 00:24:32,914 Speaker 1: actually look like in the packet. But it's a really 564 00:24:33,114 --> 00:24:36,634 Speaker 1: thick strip lash, and so what that means, and yes, 565 00:24:36,714 --> 00:24:39,194 Speaker 1: you can still cut it down. Sometimes people are like, oh, 566 00:24:39,234 --> 00:24:41,434 Speaker 1: but I cut them down anyway, so it doesn't really matter. 567 00:24:43,594 --> 00:24:47,434 Speaker 1: Like half, Well, when you pull something that is this 568 00:24:47,634 --> 00:24:50,594 Speaker 1: thick out of the packet, you're going to see how 569 00:24:50,874 --> 00:24:54,234 Speaker 1: hard it is to manipulate. The band. The band is 570 00:24:54,394 --> 00:24:57,834 Speaker 1: the part on the bottom that all of the hairs 571 00:24:57,834 --> 00:24:59,994 Speaker 1: are stuck into that then you would stick on top 572 00:25:00,074 --> 00:25:04,394 Speaker 1: of your natural lash. And because it's holding so much hair, 573 00:25:04,994 --> 00:25:08,274 Speaker 1: this band is really thick and it's really hard to manipulate. 574 00:25:08,354 --> 00:25:10,434 Speaker 1: So it's going to make it harder to stick it 575 00:25:10,554 --> 00:25:14,834 Speaker 1: onto your natural lash in a natural easy way. 576 00:25:14,954 --> 00:25:16,954 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like wiry, it's exactly. 577 00:25:17,074 --> 00:25:17,674 Speaker 1: Yes, they are. 578 00:25:18,514 --> 00:25:20,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very obvious, so if you get it wrong, 579 00:25:21,194 --> 00:25:23,554 Speaker 2: you can't really fix it exactly, and then you create 580 00:25:23,674 --> 00:25:24,754 Speaker 2: flash lesson and then. 581 00:25:24,674 --> 00:25:28,794 Speaker 1: You've got a really just obvious black. Yeah, it looks 582 00:25:28,794 --> 00:25:31,794 Speaker 1: like you've done in the wrong spot exactly on your eye. 583 00:25:32,634 --> 00:25:35,114 Speaker 1: I'm going to pick up another one, also very fluffy. 584 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:38,274 Speaker 1: Who use that I have? It's kind of disgusting. It's okay, 585 00:25:38,314 --> 00:25:43,314 Speaker 1: I read lash just so expensive. They really are. But 586 00:25:43,474 --> 00:25:46,034 Speaker 1: as you can see with this band, the band is 587 00:25:46,154 --> 00:25:50,394 Speaker 1: basically non existent because the hairs just are a lot 588 00:25:50,474 --> 00:25:53,434 Speaker 1: more fluffier and sparser, and it's not, of course, it's 589 00:25:53,474 --> 00:25:55,513 Speaker 1: not going to create the sort of impact that. 590 00:25:56,674 --> 00:25:59,834 Speaker 2: May from here. Is that what they call an invisible band? 591 00:25:59,874 --> 00:26:01,674 Speaker 2: It's almost like fishing wire or is there? Is it 592 00:26:01,714 --> 00:26:02,194 Speaker 2: black a bit? 593 00:26:02,514 --> 00:26:04,033 Speaker 1: It is black a little bit, and it's just got 594 00:26:04,034 --> 00:26:06,114 Speaker 1: a bit of glue water, which is sort of so 595 00:26:06,394 --> 00:26:08,954 Speaker 1: you still would need to like, you still need to 596 00:26:08,994 --> 00:26:11,394 Speaker 1: stick it on and everything, but this you could literally 597 00:26:11,514 --> 00:26:13,474 Speaker 1: do it in or not. It is so easy to 598 00:26:14,034 --> 00:26:18,274 Speaker 1: manipulate and move and shape to the contour of your 599 00:26:18,354 --> 00:26:19,434 Speaker 1: specific eye shape. 600 00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:21,754 Speaker 2: Everyone needs to watch this on YouTube. Yeah, it makes 601 00:26:21,794 --> 00:26:22,954 Speaker 2: feel fascinating lesson. 602 00:26:23,074 --> 00:26:26,834 Speaker 1: It's very hard to explain, but when you're shopping for 603 00:26:26,994 --> 00:26:30,314 Speaker 1: fake lashes, have a look at the band. We want 604 00:26:30,434 --> 00:26:34,394 Speaker 1: to look for thin, almost nonexistent looking bands. 605 00:26:34,474 --> 00:26:37,114 Speaker 2: I always go for what they call invisible, so they 606 00:26:37,154 --> 00:26:38,994 Speaker 2: kind of is a clear it's a fishing line, but 607 00:26:39,074 --> 00:26:40,714 Speaker 2: it's that kind of vibe. 608 00:26:40,874 --> 00:26:44,994 Speaker 1: They're so much easier to apply because they're so much 609 00:26:45,074 --> 00:26:48,994 Speaker 1: easier to manipulate to the shape of your eye. I agree, Yeah, 610 00:26:49,034 --> 00:26:50,714 Speaker 1: you're just going to have a lot more success. So 611 00:26:51,034 --> 00:26:54,234 Speaker 1: that's my tip when shopping for a fake eyelash to 612 00:26:54,274 --> 00:26:54,914 Speaker 1: look at the band. 613 00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:57,634 Speaker 2: Yes, and like, if you're going for address up, that 614 00:26:57,674 --> 00:27:00,194 Speaker 2: first one's great. My beauty butt is also show and tell. 615 00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:02,434 Speaker 2: It's well loved. This is also my second one. Lucky, 616 00:27:02,474 --> 00:27:06,314 Speaker 2: I've bought twelve. I'm what twelve well as gifts. I'm 617 00:27:06,354 --> 00:27:08,474 Speaker 2: a very proud and bassador for Good Feel Better, which 618 00:27:08,514 --> 00:27:11,593 Speaker 2: is an organization that raises money for people going through 619 00:27:11,674 --> 00:27:14,434 Speaker 2: cancer treatment. It receives no government funding, so it's all 620 00:27:14,594 --> 00:27:16,754 Speaker 2: on ambassadors like me to help raise money. 621 00:27:16,794 --> 00:27:17,954 Speaker 1: And just the good people like you. 622 00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:21,234 Speaker 2: Every year they do a Christmas bond bond and you 623 00:27:21,354 --> 00:27:23,674 Speaker 2: buy it and all the money goes to the charity. 624 00:27:24,234 --> 00:27:26,394 Speaker 2: They couldn't fit all the products in the bonbon this year, 625 00:27:26,794 --> 00:27:29,154 Speaker 2: so they've done a Christmas box. So for twenty five 626 00:27:29,314 --> 00:27:33,793 Speaker 2: dollars you order this perfect KK gift. I bought all 627 00:27:33,834 --> 00:27:36,434 Speaker 2: of them for their school teachers and stuff. My first 628 00:27:36,474 --> 00:27:39,594 Speaker 2: one Alexander opened, and then this one well you know life, 629 00:27:39,634 --> 00:27:43,513 Speaker 2: but the restill looked like I did, I think, so 630 00:27:43,674 --> 00:27:45,513 Speaker 2: for twenty five dollars and again you can have a 631 00:27:45,554 --> 00:27:48,114 Speaker 2: look at this on YouTube. You get over one hundred 632 00:27:48,194 --> 00:27:49,354 Speaker 2: dollars worth of products. 633 00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:52,194 Speaker 1: I know, it's so good. So there's products like and 634 00:27:52,274 --> 00:27:52,754 Speaker 1: all these. 635 00:27:52,674 --> 00:27:54,954 Speaker 2: Brands donate to look good for better their products to 636 00:27:55,034 --> 00:27:56,554 Speaker 2: then put them in the than the money. The twenty 637 00:27:56,594 --> 00:28:00,234 Speaker 2: five dollars goes to the charity, absolutely, and the charity 638 00:28:00,234 --> 00:28:02,314 Speaker 2: is straight to you know, it's not a lot of 639 00:28:02,354 --> 00:28:04,234 Speaker 2: red tape goes trust me, it goes straight there. So 640 00:28:04,314 --> 00:28:07,634 Speaker 2: there's brands like a Van birdbed o'claren. Yeah, I'm going 641 00:28:07,674 --> 00:28:10,474 Speaker 2: to have sure that's alex had to open the first 642 00:28:10,474 --> 00:28:12,354 Speaker 2: one because I need to know what I'm giving the teachers, 643 00:28:13,314 --> 00:28:16,314 Speaker 2: Clarence go to skincare, So there's a mixture of premium 644 00:28:16,394 --> 00:28:18,794 Speaker 2: samples and big products and one hundred percent of proceeds 645 00:28:18,834 --> 00:28:21,273 Speaker 2: go to Look Good, Feel Better, supporting free access to 646 00:28:21,434 --> 00:28:24,194 Speaker 2: Confidence Mystic workshops in person and online for anyone in 647 00:28:24,234 --> 00:28:26,474 Speaker 2: Australia going through cancer treatment. So I've already ordered mine. 648 00:28:26,714 --> 00:28:29,354 Speaker 2: Yours will not come crushed like this. But this is 649 00:28:29,394 --> 00:28:32,314 Speaker 2: a great teachers gift or KK. But also if you're 650 00:28:32,314 --> 00:28:34,834 Speaker 2: just doing like little stocking stuffers, or you're having like 651 00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:37,474 Speaker 2: a lunch or something, you can just open it up 652 00:28:37,514 --> 00:28:38,114 Speaker 2: and split it up. 653 00:28:38,114 --> 00:28:38,514 Speaker 1: Anyway. 654 00:28:38,794 --> 00:28:41,434 Speaker 2: They're all a bit different, so in there, they've all 655 00:28:41,514 --> 00:28:43,434 Speaker 2: got different stuff in there. Yeah, they've all got a 656 00:28:43,474 --> 00:28:46,754 Speaker 2: bit of a different stuff. So oh glam Lash Kelly 657 00:28:46,794 --> 00:28:49,634 Speaker 2: could tell us about the band, the Loxatan arm and 658 00:28:49,714 --> 00:28:52,794 Speaker 2: shower oil. I won't show you all, but they're honestly incredible. 659 00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:59,434 Speaker 2: Clarence Vita Glow. I need that today, Nivea. Look, there's 660 00:28:59,514 --> 00:29:02,674 Speaker 2: just so many great things. So for twenty five fantastic 661 00:29:02,754 --> 00:29:05,194 Speaker 2: one hundred percent of that money is going to charity. 662 00:29:05,514 --> 00:29:07,554 Speaker 2: You're getting over one hundred dollars worth of products yourself 663 00:29:07,634 --> 00:29:10,354 Speaker 2: or your friend. It comes in a beautiful box. You 664 00:29:10,434 --> 00:29:13,274 Speaker 2: don't even have to like do anything. But yeah, so 665 00:29:13,434 --> 00:29:16,194 Speaker 2: sorry to use my platform to plug my charity, but 666 00:29:16,514 --> 00:29:17,074 Speaker 2: that's what I'm here. 667 00:29:17,074 --> 00:29:19,674 Speaker 1: If you're an awful person, how very dare you plug 668 00:29:19,714 --> 00:29:20,034 Speaker 1: a chain? 669 00:29:20,154 --> 00:29:22,274 Speaker 2: How dare I give the UBIS a box full of 670 00:29:22,314 --> 00:29:23,794 Speaker 2: products and a charity donation? Know? 671 00:29:24,314 --> 00:29:27,714 Speaker 1: So that was my show and tell. That's fantastic. Yeah, 672 00:29:28,034 --> 00:29:32,194 Speaker 1: well that's all we have in store for you today. 673 00:29:32,314 --> 00:29:34,474 Speaker 1: But I'll be back in your eyes and ears tomorrow. 674 00:29:35,074 --> 00:29:38,714 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I love Tuesday. Yes with a fabulous guest 675 00:29:38,754 --> 00:29:40,474 Speaker 1: on the form and O my goodness. 676 00:29:40,234 --> 00:29:42,754 Speaker 2: I can't beat Abby Chatfield. That was my favorite episode 677 00:29:42,754 --> 00:29:45,154 Speaker 2: of all time. I felt like you'd known each other forever. Anyway, 678 00:29:45,234 --> 00:29:46,154 Speaker 2: we've known each other forever. 679 00:29:46,314 --> 00:29:46,874 Speaker 1: We've got to go. 680 00:29:47,074 --> 00:29:49,274 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on you beauty. 681 00:29:49,314 --> 00:29:51,594 Speaker 2: If you're not watching on YouTube, how about we tell 682 00:29:51,594 --> 00:29:53,234 Speaker 2: you for the one hundredth time talks on YouTube. 683 00:29:53,594 --> 00:29:54,394 Speaker 1: Gone subscribe? 684 00:29:54,634 --> 00:29:56,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, like and subscribe if you're listening, Thank you so 685 00:29:56,994 --> 00:29:57,954 Speaker 2: much and we'll see you soon. 686 00:29:58,114 --> 00:29:58,354 Speaker 1: Bye,