1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,784 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,824 --> 00:00:29,944 Speaker 1: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,984 --> 00:00:32,464 Speaker 1: Brodnick and today I'm joined by Seni Lukitchen. 7 00:00:32,504 --> 00:00:34,304 Speaker 3: I'm filling in for m Vernon again today. 8 00:00:34,664 --> 00:00:35,944 Speaker 1: Just hanging out with us all week. 9 00:00:36,064 --> 00:00:38,424 Speaker 3: We love that and I love coming for you guys. 10 00:00:38,784 --> 00:00:39,264 Speaker 3: Just love it. 11 00:00:39,744 --> 00:00:40,744 Speaker 1: Oh, we love to hear that. 12 00:00:40,944 --> 00:00:41,104 Speaker 3: Guys. 13 00:00:41,144 --> 00:00:42,864 Speaker 1: We're not feuding behind the scenes or anything like that. 14 00:00:42,984 --> 00:00:44,984 Speaker 1: That's more of an Emily and I think I'm joking. No, 15 00:00:45,104 --> 00:00:47,744 Speaker 1: I like both of you, but who do you a 16 00:00:47,864 --> 00:00:50,264 Speaker 1: little bit more? Well, I've done more shows with you, 17 00:00:50,424 --> 00:00:53,464 Speaker 1: that is the correct. But I did really enjoy recording 18 00:00:53,504 --> 00:00:56,344 Speaker 1: with MS. We'll talk about that off air. Yeah, on 19 00:00:56,424 --> 00:01:00,304 Speaker 1: today's show, we have not me ruining our lovely introduction 20 00:01:00,424 --> 00:01:02,544 Speaker 1: with a bit of drama. I just always think it's 21 00:01:02,544 --> 00:01:04,544 Speaker 1: fun to listen to the pod being like, what's going 22 00:01:04,584 --> 00:01:07,904 Speaker 1: on behind the wa You're not sitting on the couch 23 00:01:07,944 --> 00:01:09,824 Speaker 1: with me today. You're sitting over in a separate yellow 24 00:01:09,904 --> 00:01:11,584 Speaker 1: chair and I'm the orange couch By myself. 25 00:01:11,664 --> 00:01:12,904 Speaker 3: I know, but I've got my pillar. I gave you 26 00:01:12,984 --> 00:01:13,984 Speaker 3: a really great setup though. 27 00:01:14,184 --> 00:01:16,744 Speaker 1: I know, guys, we're having some fun in the studios 28 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:18,464 Speaker 1: at my Mirrre at the moment, So just a bit 29 00:01:18,504 --> 00:01:21,344 Speaker 1: of shuffling around, bit of having to find unique. 30 00:01:21,104 --> 00:01:22,024 Speaker 3: Places to record. 31 00:01:22,184 --> 00:01:23,704 Speaker 1: So you know, we've just set up home in Mere 32 00:01:23,744 --> 00:01:24,464 Speaker 1: Freeman's office. 33 00:01:24,824 --> 00:01:25,344 Speaker 3: Cute of us. 34 00:01:25,664 --> 00:01:29,024 Speaker 1: Anyway, On today's show, The White Lotus, I think it's 35 00:01:29,024 --> 00:01:31,264 Speaker 1: safe to say the biggest TV show in the world 36 00:01:31,344 --> 00:01:34,544 Speaker 1: right now. We're into season three. The season three finale 37 00:01:34,784 --> 00:01:37,544 Speaker 1: is airing this Monday night. I don't know what people 38 00:01:37,584 --> 00:01:39,704 Speaker 1: are going to do with themselves because so many people 39 00:01:39,784 --> 00:01:42,144 Speaker 1: in my life and myself included, have been like so 40 00:01:42,384 --> 00:01:44,824 Speaker 1: wrapped up in this show for the last couple of 41 00:01:44,904 --> 00:01:46,704 Speaker 1: weeks that it's been on air, because you know, it's 42 00:01:46,744 --> 00:01:49,664 Speaker 1: the weekly drop, it's the mystery, it's an all star cast, 43 00:01:49,984 --> 00:01:52,784 Speaker 1: especially this time around, are just losing their minds with 44 00:01:53,424 --> 00:01:55,304 Speaker 1: theories and who is the killer? Because if you're not 45 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:58,544 Speaker 1: across the White Loatus, it was written, creative, produced all 46 00:01:58,584 --> 00:02:01,104 Speaker 1: those things by Mike White. We're in the third season now. 47 00:02:02,424 --> 00:02:03,464 Speaker 3: All I was going to say is. 48 00:02:06,744 --> 00:02:07,624 Speaker 1: That is the theme song. 49 00:02:07,984 --> 00:02:11,984 Speaker 4: That's a person Tradition season two. Now, I'm gonna be 50 00:02:12,024 --> 00:02:14,824 Speaker 4: honest with you here. Okay, I've only seen season one 51 00:02:14,824 --> 00:02:16,664 Speaker 4: and two because I'm waiting for all of the episode 52 00:02:16,664 --> 00:02:18,024 Speaker 4: to drop it once so i can do a bing 53 00:02:18,504 --> 00:02:18,704 Speaker 4: no no. 54 00:02:18,904 --> 00:02:21,184 Speaker 1: So many people I know are doing that, So don't worry, guys, 55 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:23,904 Speaker 1: there's no spoilers in this episode. So the idea of 56 00:02:23,984 --> 00:02:26,384 Speaker 1: the series, and it's so clever, is that it's this 57 00:02:26,584 --> 00:02:30,184 Speaker 1: imagined luxury hotel franchise, the White Loaders, and they have 58 00:02:30,304 --> 00:02:33,464 Speaker 1: locations all over the world, so each season is set 59 00:02:33,584 --> 00:02:36,024 Speaker 1: in a different location with a different car. So the 60 00:02:36,104 --> 00:02:38,464 Speaker 1: first one was in Hawaii, the second one was in Sicily, 61 00:02:38,544 --> 00:02:40,984 Speaker 1: and now the third one has been in Thailand. And 62 00:02:41,384 --> 00:02:43,144 Speaker 1: we've done a few chats on this podcast about like 63 00:02:43,224 --> 00:02:46,824 Speaker 1: breakout storylines, the incest plot, different characters, all those sort 64 00:02:46,824 --> 00:02:49,784 Speaker 1: of things. We're building up to the finale. And to 65 00:02:49,904 --> 00:02:53,264 Speaker 1: celebrate Max and new streaming service launching in Australia, some 66 00:02:53,424 --> 00:02:55,624 Speaker 1: of the cast the White Loaders made their way over 67 00:02:55,704 --> 00:03:00,904 Speaker 1: to Australia, so we had Leslie Bibb, Natasha Rothwell, MORGANA 68 00:03:00,944 --> 00:03:04,264 Speaker 1: O'Reilly and Patrick Schwarzenegger and now Patrick Swarzenegger I didn't 69 00:03:04,264 --> 00:03:06,184 Speaker 1: get to talk to, but he seems like a lovely 70 00:03:06,304 --> 00:03:08,744 Speaker 1: chap Actually, he was at the Last of Us premiere 71 00:03:08,784 --> 00:03:11,984 Speaker 1: because the stars of The White Lotus were at that 72 00:03:12,104 --> 00:03:14,464 Speaker 1: as well. And it's so funny because he walked into 73 00:03:14,504 --> 00:03:17,024 Speaker 1: the lobby after doing the Red carpet and he has 74 00:03:17,064 --> 00:03:19,704 Speaker 1: become such a breakout star of this show. People just 75 00:03:20,064 --> 00:03:22,504 Speaker 1: rushed towards him. There were cameras everywhere, and he kind 76 00:03:22,544 --> 00:03:24,504 Speaker 1: of looked quite shell shocked because even though he's grown 77 00:03:24,544 --> 00:03:27,984 Speaker 1: up with a famous father, Arnold Schwarzenegger, this role has 78 00:03:28,104 --> 00:03:31,104 Speaker 1: catapulted him to fame. So even though he's grown up 79 00:03:31,104 --> 00:03:34,624 Speaker 1: in the spotlight, he seems quite overtaken by this new 80 00:03:34,784 --> 00:03:36,944 Speaker 1: fandom that he has. But I guess having people run 81 00:03:36,984 --> 00:03:38,264 Speaker 1: up and put a phone your face is going to 82 00:03:38,304 --> 00:03:39,184 Speaker 1: be creepy no matter what. 83 00:03:39,504 --> 00:03:41,184 Speaker 3: Man, he's a real babe. I love him. 84 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:43,704 Speaker 4: I haven't again, I haven't seen this series yet, so I'm. 85 00:03:43,504 --> 00:03:44,264 Speaker 3: Excited to hear this. 86 00:03:44,384 --> 00:03:46,904 Speaker 4: But I'm glad that you told everyone that there's not 87 00:03:46,944 --> 00:03:49,064 Speaker 4: going to be any spoilers in this. But this is 88 00:03:49,184 --> 00:03:51,944 Speaker 4: basically going to be the interviews that you did. 89 00:03:52,544 --> 00:03:55,704 Speaker 1: Yes, because the day before the big premiere of the 90 00:03:55,784 --> 00:03:58,144 Speaker 1: Last of us that these White Lotus stars were at will, 91 00:03:58,144 --> 00:04:00,144 Speaker 1: they were here in Australia. I sat down with a 92 00:04:00,224 --> 00:04:03,104 Speaker 1: few of them. So Leslie Bibb, who plays Kate in 93 00:04:03,184 --> 00:04:06,144 Speaker 1: the series, you've probably seen this around because their storylines 94 00:04:06,184 --> 00:04:09,544 Speaker 1: have been huge. There's this tree of three best childhood 95 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:12,224 Speaker 1: friends who are in the White Lotus on this resort together, 96 00:04:12,664 --> 00:04:16,184 Speaker 1: and their storylines have been quite juicy this season. And 97 00:04:16,304 --> 00:04:20,024 Speaker 1: I also sat down with Natasha Rothwell, who plays Belinda. Now, 98 00:04:20,104 --> 00:04:22,224 Speaker 1: she was in the first season, so you would know her. 99 00:04:22,624 --> 00:04:24,784 Speaker 1: She worked at the hotel in the first season and 100 00:04:24,864 --> 00:04:27,864 Speaker 1: she was the one who befriended Jennifer Coolich's character and 101 00:04:27,944 --> 00:04:29,384 Speaker 1: they were going to go into business together. 102 00:04:29,384 --> 00:04:30,544 Speaker 3: They were going to do the salon together. 103 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:34,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, before Jennifer Coolich's Tanya character just fell in love 104 00:04:34,744 --> 00:04:35,784 Speaker 1: with a terrible man. 105 00:04:36,184 --> 00:04:39,904 Speaker 4: And before I left her timely demid yes and left 106 00:04:39,944 --> 00:04:40,824 Speaker 4: her high and drive. 107 00:04:40,824 --> 00:04:42,504 Speaker 3: The Gazer try to kill them. 108 00:04:42,504 --> 00:04:42,904 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 109 00:04:42,984 --> 00:04:43,824 Speaker 3: It was such a good season. 110 00:04:43,944 --> 00:04:45,824 Speaker 1: And so she's back in season three and she's quite 111 00:04:45,864 --> 00:04:49,944 Speaker 1: a juicy storyline because that murder plot from season two 112 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:52,464 Speaker 1: has come back in a massive way in season three. 113 00:04:53,024 --> 00:04:55,944 Speaker 1: But before we get to those interviews and please stick 114 00:04:55,984 --> 00:04:58,984 Speaker 1: around for them, because these women are some of the 115 00:04:59,304 --> 00:05:02,424 Speaker 1: greatest interviews I've ever done. And I don't say that 116 00:05:02,544 --> 00:05:04,304 Speaker 1: lightly because I've interviewed a lot of people, but you 117 00:05:04,384 --> 00:05:05,464 Speaker 1: know what it's like, because you've done a lot of 118 00:05:05,504 --> 00:05:07,824 Speaker 1: these junkens and interviews as well. When you walk into 119 00:05:07,864 --> 00:05:10,824 Speaker 1: a room and the energy is chaotic, and you know, 120 00:05:10,864 --> 00:05:13,784 Speaker 1: you get all these answers you weren't expecting, and it 121 00:05:14,024 --> 00:05:16,464 Speaker 1: just is just such a great experience. 122 00:05:16,544 --> 00:05:18,544 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you walk out of the room and you're like, 123 00:05:18,704 --> 00:05:20,984 Speaker 4: I got it, and you're smiling ear to ear. You've 124 00:05:21,024 --> 00:05:23,744 Speaker 4: got those precious cards in your pocket and that was 125 00:05:23,904 --> 00:05:26,024 Speaker 4: really great. And when you walk out with like a 126 00:05:26,064 --> 00:05:27,984 Speaker 4: bit of an adrenaline rush and you're like, there was 127 00:05:28,104 --> 00:05:29,424 Speaker 4: just good energy in the room. 128 00:05:29,624 --> 00:05:34,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Nana. So we have those interviews coming up 129 00:05:34,264 --> 00:05:36,544 Speaker 1: later in the podcast. But first of all, I wanted 130 00:05:36,584 --> 00:05:39,664 Speaker 1: to play another interview with another star of The White 131 00:05:39,704 --> 00:05:43,104 Speaker 1: Lotus season three and her name is MORGANA. O'reiley. So 132 00:05:43,504 --> 00:05:45,144 Speaker 1: you might not know that name, but you're about to 133 00:05:45,264 --> 00:05:47,864 Speaker 1: because she has become the absolute breakout star of The 134 00:05:47,904 --> 00:05:51,504 Speaker 1: White Lotus season three. She plays Pam. So Pam is 135 00:05:51,544 --> 00:05:53,904 Speaker 1: someone who works at the White Lotus and she's looking 136 00:05:53,984 --> 00:05:57,144 Speaker 1: after the Ratlift family. She's like their wellness expert. So 137 00:05:57,464 --> 00:06:00,464 Speaker 1: the Ratlift family is obviously you've got the dad Tim, 138 00:06:00,544 --> 00:06:03,264 Speaker 1: who's the one who's lost all his family's money, and 139 00:06:03,464 --> 00:06:05,944 Speaker 1: then he's married to Parker Posey's character who's been a 140 00:06:05,984 --> 00:06:10,264 Speaker 1: breakout star. And they're three wealthy, dysfunctional children who are 141 00:06:10,424 --> 00:06:13,944 Speaker 1: having some light incest storylines are with them and keeping 142 00:06:13,984 --> 00:06:17,424 Speaker 1: them all together, bringing them blenders, taking their phones away 143 00:06:17,464 --> 00:06:20,384 Speaker 1: from them and looking after this crazy, rich, rude family. 144 00:06:20,984 --> 00:06:23,984 Speaker 1: Is Pam, who's played by She's a New Zealand actress, 145 00:06:24,064 --> 00:06:25,904 Speaker 1: but Australia has claimed her as we do. 146 00:06:26,224 --> 00:06:27,184 Speaker 3: We do that all the time. 147 00:06:27,344 --> 00:06:32,344 Speaker 4: I am all for like championing our Australian and Keiwi 148 00:06:32,984 --> 00:06:35,904 Speaker 4: actors and when we see them doing really well, I 149 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:37,784 Speaker 4: want to hear from them absolutely. 150 00:06:37,864 --> 00:06:40,304 Speaker 1: And morgana o'rally has such a fascinating story of how 151 00:06:40,384 --> 00:06:43,304 Speaker 1: she landed this role in The White Lotus, which we 152 00:06:43,424 --> 00:06:46,024 Speaker 1: talk about. Obviously, she already had quite a profile. She 153 00:06:46,184 --> 00:06:48,544 Speaker 1: was on Neighbors for many years, she was in a 154 00:06:48,624 --> 00:06:51,304 Speaker 1: sitcom called Mean Moms. She was in Wentworth, which is 155 00:06:51,304 --> 00:06:53,824 Speaker 1: such a huge Australian show, and I think most people 156 00:06:53,824 --> 00:06:56,864 Speaker 1: woul probably know her from neighbors. And in this interview, 157 00:06:57,024 --> 00:06:59,384 Speaker 1: we talked about the life changing call that she got 158 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:02,024 Speaker 1: about landing the role in The White Lotus, what it 159 00:07:02,144 --> 00:07:04,664 Speaker 1: was like to film with all of these celebrities in Thailand. 160 00:07:04,704 --> 00:07:06,464 Speaker 1: We're all like living on top of each other. She 161 00:07:06,504 --> 00:07:08,544 Speaker 1: also talks about the one celebrity from the cast who 162 00:07:08,584 --> 00:07:11,064 Speaker 1: really looked after her, what it means for her career, 163 00:07:11,144 --> 00:07:14,464 Speaker 1: and she also gave me all these little details of 164 00:07:14,584 --> 00:07:16,504 Speaker 1: things that the cast were doing in the background. I 165 00:07:16,584 --> 00:07:17,624 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I have to go back 166 00:07:17,624 --> 00:07:19,264 Speaker 1: and rewatch the show now because I feel like I've 167 00:07:19,304 --> 00:07:21,824 Speaker 1: missed all these little storylines that are happening in the background. 168 00:07:22,264 --> 00:07:25,064 Speaker 1: So here's my interview with The White Loadus season three 169 00:07:25,144 --> 00:07:30,784 Speaker 1: star MORGANA. O'Reilly. It's really interesting now to sort of 170 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:32,784 Speaker 1: be in the lead up to the finale of this season, 171 00:07:32,904 --> 00:07:34,344 Speaker 1: and I wanted to sort of take you back to 172 00:07:34,384 --> 00:07:36,824 Speaker 1: the beginning of the I Guess Your White Loatus journey 173 00:07:36,864 --> 00:07:39,064 Speaker 1: and ask what the audition process was like, because I 174 00:07:39,264 --> 00:07:41,584 Speaker 1: imagining when you get the call that that opportunity is 175 00:07:41,624 --> 00:07:43,984 Speaker 1: on the horizon, it would bring up a lot of 176 00:07:44,144 --> 00:07:45,264 Speaker 1: excitement or stress. 177 00:07:45,904 --> 00:07:49,784 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it was actually a really straightforward process. I 178 00:07:50,824 --> 00:07:55,464 Speaker 5: got an NDA first, which I signed, promptly sent back 179 00:07:55,624 --> 00:07:56,704 Speaker 5: to my agent. 180 00:07:57,224 --> 00:07:59,224 Speaker 2: It had like a code name, but it was pretty 181 00:07:59,344 --> 00:08:00,464 Speaker 2: obvious what it was. 182 00:08:00,904 --> 00:08:03,544 Speaker 5: And my agent message back and was like, oh my gosh, 183 00:08:03,584 --> 00:08:08,224 Speaker 5: I've never seen a NDA come back so fast. Yeah, 184 00:08:08,344 --> 00:08:12,104 Speaker 5: no audition, stand it off and off it goes as usual, 185 00:08:12,904 --> 00:08:13,984 Speaker 5: never to be heard from again. 186 00:08:14,424 --> 00:08:14,584 Speaker 1: Yes. 187 00:08:15,704 --> 00:08:18,544 Speaker 5: And then I was actually at a friend's wedding in 188 00:08:18,664 --> 00:08:21,904 Speaker 5: Los Angeles and she had been very lovely and let 189 00:08:21,984 --> 00:08:24,544 Speaker 5: me be a bit of an honorary bridesmaids that day 190 00:08:24,544 --> 00:08:26,744 Speaker 5: because I traveled so fast, so I'd been hanging out 191 00:08:26,784 --> 00:08:29,864 Speaker 5: with them all getting ready, and I was just about 192 00:08:29,904 --> 00:08:32,464 Speaker 5: to go and take my seat and sort of go, okay, 193 00:08:32,504 --> 00:08:34,104 Speaker 5: well you're going to go get Harry down, and I'm 194 00:08:34,104 --> 00:08:35,944 Speaker 5: going to go out and be with everybody while you 195 00:08:36,024 --> 00:08:38,304 Speaker 5: guys do the last little bit. And I got this 196 00:08:38,664 --> 00:08:41,704 Speaker 5: text from my agent to say like, oh my goodness, 197 00:08:41,704 --> 00:08:44,864 Speaker 5: we've just had this incredible feedback from casting for White 198 00:08:44,904 --> 00:08:47,504 Speaker 5: Lotus Wow, and that they loved you and they wanted 199 00:08:47,544 --> 00:08:49,544 Speaker 5: to reiterate the shoot dates, and I was. 200 00:08:49,664 --> 00:08:53,344 Speaker 2: Like, stop the wedding. Yeah, everybody is. 201 00:08:53,344 --> 00:08:57,504 Speaker 5: More important, obviously, I couldn't do that, but I really 202 00:08:57,664 --> 00:09:00,464 Speaker 5: wanted to, and so that was kind of amazing, and 203 00:09:00,504 --> 00:09:02,784 Speaker 5: I I remember I went and sat in my seat 204 00:09:03,664 --> 00:09:06,384 Speaker 5: forwarded that message to my husband In New Zealand. Like 205 00:09:08,024 --> 00:09:10,984 Speaker 5: o which is delicious, actors, I often say, it just 206 00:09:11,344 --> 00:09:15,544 Speaker 5: people with a terrible addiction to hope. So any little 207 00:09:15,664 --> 00:09:19,624 Speaker 5: like morsel like that is just delicious and you just 208 00:09:19,704 --> 00:09:20,144 Speaker 5: live off it. 209 00:09:20,264 --> 00:09:21,584 Speaker 2: It's yeah, yam. 210 00:09:21,864 --> 00:09:25,904 Speaker 5: Dopamine doesn't come from the present. Dopamine happens when the 211 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:30,224 Speaker 5: opportunity of the present, the you know, arises. And so 212 00:09:30,864 --> 00:09:32,904 Speaker 5: I sat with that, and then about two weeks later, 213 00:09:33,784 --> 00:09:36,704 Speaker 5: my agent gave me an update which, in her words, 214 00:09:36,784 --> 00:09:41,104 Speaker 5: she sort of said there's still strong interest in Morgana, 215 00:09:41,344 --> 00:09:44,224 Speaker 5: that Mike doesn't really do callbacks, and that this role 216 00:09:44,304 --> 00:09:46,424 Speaker 5: would likely go straight to offer and that we should 217 00:09:46,424 --> 00:09:49,584 Speaker 5: hear in the next few days. And again I was like, Oh, 218 00:09:49,864 --> 00:09:53,664 Speaker 5: this is heaven, like no back and forth, no waiting 219 00:09:53,824 --> 00:09:57,144 Speaker 5: and turmoil, and because when you're it's not the no 220 00:09:57,344 --> 00:10:00,144 Speaker 5: that hurts, it's a maybe, like maybe it's. 221 00:10:01,184 --> 00:10:02,904 Speaker 1: Dangling in front of you and not knowing if you're 222 00:10:02,944 --> 00:10:03,384 Speaker 1: going to reach it. 223 00:10:03,504 --> 00:10:06,104 Speaker 5: Because what the maybe does is that you start to 224 00:10:06,184 --> 00:10:08,504 Speaker 5: try and be really pragmatic about it. 225 00:10:08,624 --> 00:10:12,224 Speaker 2: You go listen. If don't get it, that's fine. And 226 00:10:12,344 --> 00:10:14,424 Speaker 2: I might not, And I guess the reason why I 227 00:10:14,544 --> 00:10:17,344 Speaker 2: might not is and those reasons. 228 00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:20,664 Speaker 5: Are usually really mean because you're just too old and 229 00:10:20,704 --> 00:10:23,064 Speaker 5: you're too crap, right, And that's. 230 00:10:22,624 --> 00:10:24,984 Speaker 1: What your brain is ill to that information or like that. 231 00:10:26,424 --> 00:10:27,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, just your brain. 232 00:10:28,264 --> 00:10:31,144 Speaker 5: Use your brain is left in anguish trying to figure 233 00:10:31,184 --> 00:10:33,664 Speaker 5: out why they could possibly not cast you the. 234 00:10:33,744 --> 00:10:36,864 Speaker 2: Reasons they're going to give you into the worst ones. 235 00:10:37,864 --> 00:10:38,584 Speaker 2: So it was none of that. 236 00:10:38,864 --> 00:10:41,104 Speaker 5: And then literally it was next morning, at about seven 237 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:44,304 Speaker 5: thirty on a Saturday morning, because it was still Friday 238 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:47,264 Speaker 5: in the States. I guess my agent called me and 239 00:10:47,344 --> 00:10:50,384 Speaker 5: said it's yours, which was also so nice because she 240 00:10:51,104 --> 00:10:51,624 Speaker 5: had been the. 241 00:10:51,704 --> 00:10:53,864 Speaker 2: Deliverer of some real crushing ones. 242 00:10:54,544 --> 00:10:57,384 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and even she says now like she's 243 00:10:57,424 --> 00:10:59,984 Speaker 5: like that was a real book in because she was like, 244 00:11:00,104 --> 00:11:03,024 Speaker 5: one of the hardest nos I've ever had to deliver 245 00:11:03,504 --> 00:11:06,224 Speaker 5: was one that I was on hold for a fancy 246 00:11:06,304 --> 00:11:09,064 Speaker 5: film with fancy people, and I had. 247 00:11:09,024 --> 00:11:11,864 Speaker 2: Been on hold for two months. Maybe I'm like, we're 248 00:11:11,904 --> 00:11:14,584 Speaker 2: going to hear Yeah, I heard. 249 00:11:14,504 --> 00:11:16,264 Speaker 1: From from the other cast that it's quite a unique 250 00:11:16,304 --> 00:11:19,144 Speaker 1: experience in terms of, like, you're shooting these long days, 251 00:11:19,144 --> 00:11:22,024 Speaker 1: but then you're all together in this really close knit environment. 252 00:11:22,104 --> 00:11:25,704 Speaker 1: And I've heard stories about karaoke and partying and all 253 00:11:25,784 --> 00:11:27,264 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. What was it like kind of 254 00:11:27,384 --> 00:11:29,744 Speaker 1: integrating with this big group of all these different cast 255 00:11:29,824 --> 00:11:32,104 Speaker 1: members and having to sort of, I guess, find that 256 00:11:32,224 --> 00:11:32,984 Speaker 1: rhythm with them all. 257 00:11:33,304 --> 00:11:36,544 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I guess it's more like, because there's so 258 00:11:36,704 --> 00:11:40,944 Speaker 5: many storylines, sometimes people are really busy and they're working. Wow, 259 00:11:41,464 --> 00:11:43,904 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of other people are waiting around, which 260 00:11:43,984 --> 00:11:45,704 Speaker 5: is fine because it's a lovely place to write. 261 00:11:45,704 --> 00:11:46,304 Speaker 1: Which place to wait? 262 00:11:46,344 --> 00:11:48,584 Speaker 2: And so yeah, everyone was out and about, and I like, 263 00:11:48,744 --> 00:11:49,944 Speaker 2: I came back and forth a bit. 264 00:11:50,024 --> 00:11:52,224 Speaker 5: But I think like if I was like some of 265 00:11:52,264 --> 00:11:55,144 Speaker 5: the younger actors did, and I didn't have kids, I 266 00:11:55,184 --> 00:11:57,504 Speaker 5: would have just stayed there. People went off to Cambodia 267 00:11:57,824 --> 00:12:00,224 Speaker 5: and you know, go to Japan and things like that, 268 00:12:00,384 --> 00:12:02,784 Speaker 5: I would have That would have been great. And then 269 00:12:03,464 --> 00:12:06,864 Speaker 5: you know, Parker was a wonderful connector. She just pulled 270 00:12:06,944 --> 00:12:10,984 Speaker 5: me into her vortex and made sure that, you know, 271 00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:12,224 Speaker 5: so I wasn't alone. 272 00:12:12,304 --> 00:12:13,784 Speaker 2: It was really awesome. 273 00:12:14,184 --> 00:12:15,984 Speaker 1: So she would say She's one of the people that 274 00:12:16,024 --> 00:12:16,584 Speaker 1: you bonded with. 275 00:12:17,584 --> 00:12:19,664 Speaker 5: She would She was the first one that went come 276 00:12:19,744 --> 00:12:22,024 Speaker 5: with me, and then she was that you should hang 277 00:12:22,064 --> 00:12:25,064 Speaker 5: out with Natasha. You're both writer creators, You'll love each other. 278 00:12:25,184 --> 00:12:28,384 Speaker 5: And so she connected to me and made sure which 279 00:12:28,464 --> 00:12:28,824 Speaker 5: was fun. 280 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:33,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really lovely. And so getting into the character 281 00:12:33,984 --> 00:12:36,184 Speaker 1: of Pam, who has become such a fan favorite. Have 282 00:12:36,264 --> 00:12:38,624 Speaker 1: you seen all those like the pamfam online and all 283 00:12:38,664 --> 00:12:41,584 Speaker 1: those things like that that's really bubbled up, Especially when 284 00:12:41,624 --> 00:12:43,144 Speaker 1: it's a show with so many movie parts and so 285 00:12:43,184 --> 00:12:46,864 Speaker 1: many moving characters. When people attach themselves to someone, that 286 00:12:47,024 --> 00:12:48,984 Speaker 1: must mean it's it's quite a special performance. 287 00:12:49,184 --> 00:12:51,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so pleased. I mean, that's all I could 288 00:12:51,984 --> 00:12:54,584 Speaker 2: hope for. So great. 289 00:12:55,824 --> 00:12:58,104 Speaker 1: And what was the story behind creating the characters? And 290 00:12:58,184 --> 00:13:00,344 Speaker 1: not obviously Mike White's written it and she has a 291 00:13:00,424 --> 00:13:03,504 Speaker 1: very particular, you know role within this New White Lotus world. 292 00:13:03,824 --> 00:13:05,864 Speaker 1: But were you able to sort of bring any of 293 00:13:05,944 --> 00:13:08,424 Speaker 1: your own tweaks and ideas or anything like that to 294 00:13:08,544 --> 00:13:09,024 Speaker 1: creating her. 295 00:13:09,184 --> 00:13:12,504 Speaker 5: Yeah, because actually I'm when I spoke with Mike about it, 296 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:14,824 Speaker 5: I think he writes it and then he kind of 297 00:13:14,864 --> 00:13:18,464 Speaker 5: goes just like you figure it out, you know. So 298 00:13:19,264 --> 00:13:21,984 Speaker 5: I have my own backstory for her, and I thought 299 00:13:22,064 --> 00:13:25,544 Speaker 5: a lot about in the audition process because I got 300 00:13:25,624 --> 00:13:29,544 Speaker 5: two scenes and a very small character description. But I 301 00:13:30,784 --> 00:13:33,864 Speaker 5: know that in the White Lotus world, the staff are 302 00:13:34,024 --> 00:13:38,144 Speaker 5: often at odds with what they're feeling inside, whilst having 303 00:13:38,224 --> 00:13:42,024 Speaker 5: to put a very firm mask of civility over the. 304 00:13:42,064 --> 00:13:44,944 Speaker 2: Top of it, which is also anybody who hospitality knows. 305 00:13:46,744 --> 00:13:50,944 Speaker 1: Very sometimes very difficult rich people who are they always 306 00:13:50,984 --> 00:13:54,544 Speaker 1: have to be right, and which is like a delicious 307 00:13:54,984 --> 00:13:57,344 Speaker 1: thing to play as an actor when you get to 308 00:13:57,384 --> 00:14:00,184 Speaker 1: play that smile of love. 309 00:14:00,664 --> 00:14:02,984 Speaker 5: And I listened to the music a lot, which tonally 310 00:14:03,304 --> 00:14:06,544 Speaker 5: I feel like really got me in that world. And 311 00:14:06,704 --> 00:14:10,024 Speaker 5: then yeah, I just I did so much in the background. 312 00:14:10,704 --> 00:14:12,624 Speaker 5: Now I watch it and I feel proud that she's 313 00:14:12,624 --> 00:14:16,624 Speaker 5: a very full character because I just decided I'm going to. 314 00:14:16,704 --> 00:14:18,424 Speaker 2: Go in there and I'm going to give it. 315 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:22,384 Speaker 5: I'm going to give every moment everything so that they 316 00:14:22,464 --> 00:14:24,904 Speaker 5: always have something to work with, and because I'm often 317 00:14:25,024 --> 00:14:27,904 Speaker 5: in big group scenes in the back, and I just 318 00:14:28,664 --> 00:14:31,584 Speaker 5: tried to make myself laugh or tried to make like 319 00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:33,464 Speaker 5: that blender gag I did. 320 00:14:36,744 --> 00:14:39,904 Speaker 1: That's a great moment for pan quite quin things. 321 00:14:40,464 --> 00:14:42,664 Speaker 5: So Basically, the family have to have a scene and 322 00:14:42,824 --> 00:14:44,624 Speaker 5: I bring in the blender. I'm like, what am I 323 00:14:44,664 --> 00:14:46,424 Speaker 5: going to do back here? I'm just going to struggle 324 00:14:46,464 --> 00:14:50,624 Speaker 5: with opening the blender. But two of the Thaie department 325 00:14:50,704 --> 00:14:53,464 Speaker 5: boys were just offscreen just cracking out just that end 326 00:14:53,584 --> 00:14:56,624 Speaker 5: of that. So I had my little audience and they 327 00:14:56,624 --> 00:14:59,464 Speaker 5: would do cut, and of course they're all concentrating on 328 00:14:59,584 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 5: the main actors, and I'm just looking at those guys, going, I'm. 329 00:15:02,824 --> 00:15:05,264 Speaker 2: Just doing this for you, okay. So if I get 330 00:15:05,304 --> 00:15:07,064 Speaker 2: in trouble, Mike, there you. 331 00:15:07,104 --> 00:15:10,864 Speaker 5: Go, and or like behind Mook, behind Lee and the 332 00:15:10,984 --> 00:15:12,824 Speaker 5: welcome scene, you kind of see it like it's out 333 00:15:12,864 --> 00:15:16,904 Speaker 5: of focus. But I have much satisfaction in knowing that 334 00:15:17,104 --> 00:15:20,224 Speaker 5: Jess behind her me and the same outfit as her. 335 00:15:20,744 --> 00:15:24,344 Speaker 2: When Chelsea says to her, you're so pretty every. 336 00:15:24,184 --> 00:15:26,304 Speaker 5: Time, I just played it like I thought she was 337 00:15:26,344 --> 00:15:28,904 Speaker 5: saying that to me, it's such a good life, realizing 338 00:15:28,944 --> 00:15:32,664 Speaker 5: that she wasn't and getting really embarrassed, and honest standing 339 00:15:32,744 --> 00:15:34,584 Speaker 5: next to me was enjoying that gag. 340 00:15:34,664 --> 00:15:35,504 Speaker 1: So I just. 341 00:15:37,064 --> 00:15:39,824 Speaker 2: Tried to give her life at every moment possible. 342 00:15:40,264 --> 00:15:41,384 Speaker 1: How do you think this is going to kind of 343 00:15:41,424 --> 00:15:43,704 Speaker 1: shape your career going forward now that you've got like 344 00:15:43,904 --> 00:15:46,224 Speaker 1: maybe a bit more of an international audience. 345 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:48,984 Speaker 2: I just don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 346 00:15:49,144 --> 00:15:52,184 Speaker 5: There's a chance that this is the way things are 347 00:15:52,224 --> 00:15:55,664 Speaker 5: for the moment and then things received like a like 348 00:15:55,784 --> 00:15:59,984 Speaker 5: the tide on a beach. But what I'm hoping, well, 349 00:16:00,064 --> 00:16:03,704 Speaker 5: I think it's unlocked doors that initially were really hard 350 00:16:03,744 --> 00:16:04,144 Speaker 5: to open. 351 00:16:04,784 --> 00:16:07,264 Speaker 2: And that's all I can ask for. 352 00:16:08,304 --> 00:16:12,544 Speaker 5: If I can have more to work with clever people, 353 00:16:13,184 --> 00:16:15,944 Speaker 5: if I can have more access and to get my 354 00:16:16,144 --> 00:16:19,784 Speaker 5: own work produced. You know, you need a certain amount 355 00:16:19,784 --> 00:16:24,824 Speaker 5: of marketability, which is like it seems so futile when 356 00:16:24,904 --> 00:16:27,624 Speaker 5: you yeah, because it was only a few years ago 357 00:16:27,704 --> 00:16:30,424 Speaker 5: that I was going. I have done this for so long, 358 00:16:31,144 --> 00:16:35,264 Speaker 5: and I'm coming into an age bracket of really interesting 359 00:16:35,424 --> 00:16:39,784 Speaker 5: characters and I will definitely get passed up on for 360 00:16:40,024 --> 00:16:44,864 Speaker 5: actors who are more recognizable, and now I can be that, 361 00:16:46,744 --> 00:16:47,904 Speaker 5: but maybe more access. 362 00:16:48,024 --> 00:16:48,584 Speaker 1: Ah, I know. 363 00:16:48,784 --> 00:16:51,064 Speaker 2: So that's kind of the brutal reality. 364 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:53,064 Speaker 5: But if it can just open up some more doors, 365 00:16:53,224 --> 00:16:56,784 Speaker 5: be awesome, and maybe make some more money. Maybe I 366 00:16:56,824 --> 00:16:58,144 Speaker 5: can afford a Sparkle one day. 367 00:16:58,424 --> 00:16:59,344 Speaker 1: I mean, that is the dream. 368 00:16:59,424 --> 00:17:01,464 Speaker 2: Come on state a wellness resort to get it. 369 00:17:01,704 --> 00:17:04,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's such a funny actress and just can't wait 370 00:17:04,784 --> 00:17:06,544 Speaker 1: to see what she does next now she has more 371 00:17:06,584 --> 00:17:07,824 Speaker 1: of this global profile. 372 00:17:09,824 --> 00:17:12,504 Speaker 4: Now we need to hear the next interview you did 373 00:17:12,584 --> 00:17:14,864 Speaker 4: with Leslie Bibb and Natasha Rothwell, can you set it 374 00:17:14,944 --> 00:17:15,584 Speaker 4: up a bit for us? 375 00:17:16,104 --> 00:17:18,704 Speaker 1: Yes, So, as I was saying, Leslie Bibb plays Kate 376 00:17:18,824 --> 00:17:22,024 Speaker 1: in the show. She's from Austin, Texas. She's on this 377 00:17:22,104 --> 00:17:25,784 Speaker 1: trip of a lifetime with her two girlfriends and the 378 00:17:25,984 --> 00:17:28,744 Speaker 1: drama and the tension between them is like bubbling over. 379 00:17:28,904 --> 00:17:30,504 Speaker 1: She gives me a little bit of an idea of 380 00:17:31,144 --> 00:17:33,584 Speaker 1: what is going to happen in the finale and also 381 00:17:33,744 --> 00:17:36,064 Speaker 1: takes me through why they had to change some of 382 00:17:36,104 --> 00:17:38,984 Speaker 1: the scenes things that happened when they were filming. She 383 00:17:39,144 --> 00:17:42,984 Speaker 1: just got such an interesting take on this character in 384 00:17:43,064 --> 00:17:45,304 Speaker 1: this show, and she's literally one of the funniest people. 385 00:17:45,424 --> 00:17:46,744 Speaker 1: You see the end when I'm trying to leave and 386 00:17:46,784 --> 00:17:48,784 Speaker 1: she's like she jumps out and stops me and asks 387 00:17:48,784 --> 00:17:50,664 Speaker 1: me about a very controversial moment of the show that 388 00:17:50,824 --> 00:17:51,824 Speaker 1: she wanted to bring up. 389 00:17:52,184 --> 00:17:53,344 Speaker 3: Also does that have to do with. 390 00:17:56,064 --> 00:17:56,304 Speaker 6: Yes? 391 00:17:56,464 --> 00:17:58,584 Speaker 1: And I think she's been holding onto this for so long. 392 00:17:58,984 --> 00:18:00,744 Speaker 1: I think maybe just no one has asked her, and 393 00:18:00,784 --> 00:18:03,024 Speaker 1: she's like, I want to talk about this thing. So also, 394 00:18:03,224 --> 00:18:07,784 Speaker 1: Natasha rothwell as Belinda in the series, is so incredible, 395 00:18:07,944 --> 00:18:10,984 Speaker 1: and we get into how she kept all these secrets. 396 00:18:11,304 --> 00:18:13,424 Speaker 1: She tells me a little bit about the finale and 397 00:18:13,664 --> 00:18:15,504 Speaker 1: just what it was like to bring this character to life. 398 00:18:15,544 --> 00:18:18,064 Speaker 1: And so here's Natasha and Leslie and you just have 399 00:18:18,224 --> 00:18:21,744 Speaker 1: to listen to everything that these wild, crazy creative women say. 400 00:18:25,584 --> 00:18:27,384 Speaker 1: So I wanted to start by asking you both about 401 00:18:27,424 --> 00:18:30,744 Speaker 1: the filming process because White Lotus very infamously as I'm 402 00:18:30,744 --> 00:18:33,904 Speaker 1: sure you already knew very unique filming experiences with the 403 00:18:34,184 --> 00:18:35,984 Speaker 1: amount of content you have to shoot, but you're all 404 00:18:36,024 --> 00:18:38,784 Speaker 1: the way in this almost camp like environment. And the 405 00:18:38,904 --> 00:18:41,824 Speaker 1: cast of season two very infamously said that they were 406 00:18:41,864 --> 00:18:44,464 Speaker 1: the hardest PARTI is that they were always off doing 407 00:18:44,584 --> 00:18:47,544 Speaker 1: having adventures. How did the season three casts stuck up 408 00:18:47,584 --> 00:18:49,064 Speaker 1: to that? Did we have any stories? 409 00:18:49,184 --> 00:18:51,024 Speaker 6: I think we probably had better adventures? 410 00:18:52,704 --> 00:18:54,264 Speaker 1: Can we share one? What's the most memorable? 411 00:18:54,504 --> 00:18:56,864 Speaker 6: My god, there were so many. There's a lot of fun. 412 00:18:57,064 --> 00:18:58,744 Speaker 6: There was a lot of fun. There was always a 413 00:18:58,784 --> 00:18:59,824 Speaker 6: good boat trip happening. 414 00:19:00,504 --> 00:19:02,744 Speaker 7: Yeah, and everyone be like, I'm going out who wants 415 00:19:02,744 --> 00:19:05,104 Speaker 7: to snort and a lot of always karaoke. 416 00:19:05,584 --> 00:19:06,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the ringleader. 417 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:11,664 Speaker 6: Yeah, I went to Japan with Amy. A lot of 418 00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:14,744 Speaker 6: us went to Cambodia. Yeah, I don't know. I think 419 00:19:14,824 --> 00:19:17,744 Speaker 6: that I had heard there they were big partiers. 420 00:19:17,984 --> 00:19:19,944 Speaker 8: Yeah, but I feel like the truth with all of 421 00:19:20,064 --> 00:19:23,184 Speaker 8: us is that we're all sort of we're all like 422 00:19:23,384 --> 00:19:25,704 Speaker 8: acting now that they're not actors actors, but like we're 423 00:19:25,784 --> 00:19:32,544 Speaker 8: such little nerves, Like we would never show up hungover. Yes, 424 00:19:33,344 --> 00:19:35,864 Speaker 8: I mean I don't. That's not my that's not my jam. 425 00:19:36,904 --> 00:19:39,064 Speaker 8: That was like literally gives me anxiety. 426 00:19:39,264 --> 00:19:41,504 Speaker 7: Literally, you know when the Little Mermaid says, you know, 427 00:19:41,704 --> 00:19:43,544 Speaker 7: I want to be where the people are, that's not me. 428 00:19:43,864 --> 00:19:45,464 Speaker 6: I don't want to be where the people are. That's 429 00:19:46,064 --> 00:19:47,104 Speaker 6: where my people are. 430 00:19:49,904 --> 00:19:50,064 Speaker 1: Yeah. 431 00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:53,384 Speaker 8: I think out of all the cast, I think we 432 00:19:53,504 --> 00:19:56,624 Speaker 8: were probably very codependently. 433 00:19:57,344 --> 00:20:00,864 Speaker 6: Well well yeah, season one, we had to be right 434 00:20:00,904 --> 00:20:01,904 Speaker 6: because we were on lockdown. 435 00:20:01,944 --> 00:20:03,384 Speaker 3: We weren't allowed to leave the hotel. 436 00:20:03,544 --> 00:20:05,504 Speaker 7: It was very much like you know, it was beautiful, 437 00:20:05,664 --> 00:20:07,584 Speaker 7: but it was definitely like a five star prison. 438 00:20:07,904 --> 00:20:09,904 Speaker 6: We could, you know, like we could leave. 439 00:20:10,104 --> 00:20:13,864 Speaker 7: This season, it was gorgeous, but they've turned off her 440 00:20:13,944 --> 00:20:14,504 Speaker 7: key cards. 441 00:20:14,544 --> 00:20:17,704 Speaker 6: Like I heard that story was locked in. 442 00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:21,024 Speaker 7: Yeah, because that was it was COVID like pre vaccination. 443 00:20:21,384 --> 00:20:22,664 Speaker 7: We didn't know what it was going to become. 444 00:20:22,744 --> 00:20:25,144 Speaker 8: So we're just like, oh, so you couldn't if you 445 00:20:25,544 --> 00:20:28,304 Speaker 8: got out, if you left your car, couldn't get back in. 446 00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:31,104 Speaker 6: Carts stopped working, so they knew if you were being 447 00:20:31,144 --> 00:20:31,944 Speaker 6: a sneaky sneak. 448 00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,704 Speaker 7: So now this time around, we could we could go everyone, 449 00:20:34,744 --> 00:20:36,784 Speaker 7: but we chose each other like that. 450 00:20:37,264 --> 00:20:39,704 Speaker 1: And speaking of that correlation from season one, obviously we're 451 00:20:39,744 --> 00:20:42,704 Speaker 1: seeing your character come back and complete her art, which 452 00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:45,104 Speaker 1: fans are so excited about because we all felt very protected. 453 00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:47,304 Speaker 6: Do you know that she completed her did you do 454 00:20:47,344 --> 00:20:48,664 Speaker 6: you know something that maybe. 455 00:20:49,184 --> 00:20:53,344 Speaker 1: Even just seeing you come back now and I mean, 456 00:20:53,504 --> 00:20:57,504 Speaker 1: you'd like to tell me how to strugg I'm seeing 457 00:20:57,584 --> 00:20:59,424 Speaker 1: the second part of her story. What was that like 458 00:20:59,544 --> 00:21:01,984 Speaker 1: to come back and see this character again. You know, 459 00:21:02,104 --> 00:21:04,024 Speaker 1: she's still trying to build a business and she's raising 460 00:21:04,064 --> 00:21:05,904 Speaker 1: her son, and she's like almost in a crossroads of 461 00:21:05,984 --> 00:21:06,304 Speaker 1: her life. 462 00:21:06,584 --> 00:21:07,424 Speaker 2: She's going to go next. 463 00:21:07,584 --> 00:21:09,384 Speaker 7: I mean it's I mean, it's tantamounts are sort of 464 00:21:09,504 --> 00:21:11,744 Speaker 7: like you you go in your closet and there's an 465 00:21:11,784 --> 00:21:13,544 Speaker 7: outfit that you had on before and you loved it, 466 00:21:13,584 --> 00:21:14,784 Speaker 7: and you get to put it on again, you know, 467 00:21:15,184 --> 00:21:16,824 Speaker 7: And I was just so excited to be able to 468 00:21:17,584 --> 00:21:22,024 Speaker 7: continue that story and having the world see that, you know, 469 00:21:22,544 --> 00:21:26,224 Speaker 7: Tany didn't break her. You know, she found resilience and 470 00:21:26,304 --> 00:21:27,344 Speaker 7: she found sort of like. 471 00:21:27,424 --> 00:21:30,264 Speaker 6: The ability to bring back joy in her life. 472 00:21:30,344 --> 00:21:32,504 Speaker 7: You know, she chose to take herself on this solo 473 00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:35,144 Speaker 7: trip to Thailand at the beginning solo trip until her 474 00:21:35,184 --> 00:21:37,744 Speaker 7: son joins her. And as someone who travels solo in 475 00:21:37,784 --> 00:21:39,624 Speaker 7: real life, it's a really scary thing to do if 476 00:21:39,624 --> 00:21:42,144 Speaker 7: you haven't done before, and you're really kind of you're 477 00:21:42,264 --> 00:21:44,664 Speaker 7: being asked to sort of you know, show up for 478 00:21:44,784 --> 00:21:47,264 Speaker 7: yourself in ways that you don't you know, you had before. 479 00:21:47,344 --> 00:21:49,744 Speaker 7: And so it's really wonderful to see her in this 480 00:21:49,904 --> 00:21:53,184 Speaker 7: new light. And you know, sometimes you know, I hear 481 00:21:53,464 --> 00:21:56,424 Speaker 7: people saying, oh, she's she's a different person, you know 482 00:21:56,504 --> 00:21:58,864 Speaker 7: this season. I'm like, all of that existed before, but 483 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:00,984 Speaker 7: she never let it out. So it's just nice to 484 00:22:01,024 --> 00:22:03,384 Speaker 7: see her be able to open herself in this way. 485 00:22:03,504 --> 00:22:07,104 Speaker 6: Also, she's a different person because of what happened. Correct, Yes, 486 00:22:07,224 --> 00:22:08,744 Speaker 6: it's so change changes you. 487 00:22:09,104 --> 00:22:11,464 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So you are. 488 00:22:11,584 --> 00:22:16,224 Speaker 6: Seeing a woman changed from and allowing herself to did 489 00:22:16,304 --> 00:22:18,064 Speaker 6: her dirty, did her so dirty? 490 00:22:18,624 --> 00:22:21,104 Speaker 7: And I think you take those bad things that happen 491 00:22:21,184 --> 00:22:24,624 Speaker 7: in life and you can decide to move differently. 492 00:22:24,704 --> 00:22:26,184 Speaker 2: And I think that's how it changed her. 493 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:28,944 Speaker 7: You know, I think who she is was there, but 494 00:22:29,344 --> 00:22:32,264 Speaker 7: she's made the decision to allow other people to see 495 00:22:32,264 --> 00:22:34,864 Speaker 7: it and give zero f's about, you know, and. 496 00:22:36,024 --> 00:22:41,584 Speaker 1: Confronted with her past, with meeting up with Greg. Yeah, 497 00:22:41,824 --> 00:22:43,984 Speaker 1: we're not loving him. I know you can't give away 498 00:22:44,024 --> 00:22:45,584 Speaker 1: too much. Are we going to get some sort of 499 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:47,704 Speaker 1: satisfactory resolution as an audience? 500 00:22:47,784 --> 00:22:49,864 Speaker 6: So I mean I can't. 501 00:22:49,944 --> 00:22:52,504 Speaker 7: I can't speak to other people's satisfaction, you know what 502 00:22:52,624 --> 00:22:59,224 Speaker 7: I mean, And you can't do that. That's but I 503 00:22:59,344 --> 00:23:02,744 Speaker 7: do think that like the finale will not disappoint. I 504 00:23:02,904 --> 00:23:06,744 Speaker 7: remember reading it and I had to remind myself to 505 00:23:06,824 --> 00:23:09,944 Speaker 7: breathe while I was reading it because I was just 506 00:23:10,064 --> 00:23:12,064 Speaker 7: this attention page after page. 507 00:23:12,104 --> 00:23:13,904 Speaker 6: He just it's beautifully executed. 508 00:23:14,064 --> 00:23:14,464 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. 509 00:23:15,024 --> 00:23:17,104 Speaker 1: And Leslie with your character, I mean, there's so many 510 00:23:17,184 --> 00:23:19,104 Speaker 1: crazy plots going on in this season. We've got some 511 00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:22,704 Speaker 1: murder and intrigue and love stories and some light incest 512 00:23:22,784 --> 00:23:30,024 Speaker 1: between this breakdown as an audience girl enjoying. But it's 513 00:23:30,024 --> 00:23:32,904 Speaker 1: the dynamic between these three friends that has really captured 514 00:23:33,184 --> 00:23:36,224 Speaker 1: people's attention. That's been the most think pieces, the most 515 00:23:36,504 --> 00:23:38,024 Speaker 1: TikTok video is the most everything. 516 00:23:38,104 --> 00:23:41,224 Speaker 6: It's so wild to me, not to me, I don't 517 00:23:41,264 --> 00:23:43,784 Speaker 6: know how you knew that for me to jump I 518 00:23:43,904 --> 00:23:46,224 Speaker 6: said it to Dave. I was just like, this story 519 00:23:46,504 --> 00:23:48,704 Speaker 6: is powerful. Oh, it's so cool. 520 00:23:48,824 --> 00:23:51,144 Speaker 8: The three of us were like, oh gosh, are we 521 00:23:51,704 --> 00:23:55,264 Speaker 8: Is it even gonna like translate to people like because 522 00:23:55,304 --> 00:23:58,104 Speaker 8: will it be like overshadowed because these other stories. 523 00:23:57,784 --> 00:24:00,984 Speaker 1: Were so so big and like, and what do you 524 00:24:01,024 --> 00:24:02,704 Speaker 1: think it is about that dime that friendship? 525 00:24:02,784 --> 00:24:06,424 Speaker 8: I think because it's relatable because you can put yourself 526 00:24:06,504 --> 00:24:08,984 Speaker 8: in that and you can see yourself in that, whether 527 00:24:09,064 --> 00:24:11,344 Speaker 8: it be a woman or a man, because I've had 528 00:24:11,464 --> 00:24:15,424 Speaker 8: both come up to me and say, oh, I sort 529 00:24:15,464 --> 00:24:18,984 Speaker 8: of is that how I relate to my friends? It's 530 00:24:19,064 --> 00:24:21,424 Speaker 8: sort of like, well, it's interesting. It's like a holding 531 00:24:21,504 --> 00:24:25,104 Speaker 8: up a mirror, and mirrors are big theme this year, 532 00:24:25,304 --> 00:24:30,464 Speaker 8: and in that imagery of doppelgangers, you know, and vulnerability 533 00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:36,864 Speaker 8: and how to walk through this life like without apologizing 534 00:24:37,624 --> 00:24:40,384 Speaker 8: for your truth, which I think is what Frank's doing 535 00:24:40,504 --> 00:24:43,304 Speaker 8: in that monologue that he has is like, because I 536 00:24:43,504 --> 00:24:45,344 Speaker 8: you know, the girls, we laughed. We're like, God, if 537 00:24:45,344 --> 00:24:47,464 Speaker 8: we just come in with some Frank energy and just 538 00:24:47,584 --> 00:24:49,384 Speaker 8: said our truths. 539 00:24:49,584 --> 00:24:52,624 Speaker 6: Your storyline would be done done. It wouldn't be anything. 540 00:24:52,704 --> 00:24:55,144 Speaker 6: We'd just be drinking rose and having a. 541 00:24:55,144 --> 00:24:59,304 Speaker 8: Good time and doing a lot of yoga because we 542 00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:01,944 Speaker 8: can't because it's so scary to be vulnerable. I mean 543 00:25:02,024 --> 00:25:06,304 Speaker 8: that's something I think like even the vulnerability that you 544 00:25:06,584 --> 00:25:12,624 Speaker 8: come into this with pornchies really beautiful and that for you. 545 00:25:12,824 --> 00:25:15,704 Speaker 8: I love that, Mike, that's how he sort of went in. 546 00:25:15,984 --> 00:25:20,104 Speaker 8: I just love that that theme and how it resonates 547 00:25:20,384 --> 00:25:22,424 Speaker 8: through your storyline is really and I will. 548 00:25:22,304 --> 00:25:25,384 Speaker 7: Say this about the girl's storyline. I went to school 549 00:25:25,384 --> 00:25:29,984 Speaker 7: for theater nerd Alert and Tennessee Williams. He's known for subtext. 550 00:25:30,064 --> 00:25:32,744 Speaker 7: And it's like plays before there was air conditioning, you 551 00:25:32,824 --> 00:25:34,864 Speaker 7: know what I mean, where it's just like people were 552 00:25:34,944 --> 00:25:37,744 Speaker 7: just saying the bare minimum, but you know they were 553 00:25:37,944 --> 00:25:41,024 Speaker 7: feeling the most. And so you have them doing this 554 00:25:41,144 --> 00:25:43,944 Speaker 7: sort of like old school KT on a hot tin 555 00:25:44,064 --> 00:25:46,464 Speaker 7: roof where no one they're saying, like past the salt, 556 00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:49,424 Speaker 7: it's a nice day. But the subtext is like deep 557 00:25:49,664 --> 00:25:52,744 Speaker 7: and you feel it when you watch them and when 558 00:25:52,824 --> 00:25:54,824 Speaker 7: you want and that's the relatability, because we all know 559 00:25:54,904 --> 00:25:56,304 Speaker 7: what it's like to move through the world and not 560 00:25:56,424 --> 00:25:58,824 Speaker 7: say the thing yeah, and just so see these women 561 00:25:59,184 --> 00:26:02,904 Speaker 7: move that way. It's just like you feel almost seen 562 00:26:03,064 --> 00:26:03,624 Speaker 7: when you watch it. 563 00:26:03,704 --> 00:26:05,824 Speaker 6: You're like, oh wow, yeah, yeah's. 564 00:26:06,864 --> 00:26:09,744 Speaker 8: And I think like, like for Kate like that, like 565 00:26:09,864 --> 00:26:11,984 Speaker 8: Mike said something to us, I've said this before, but 566 00:26:12,144 --> 00:26:14,344 Speaker 8: like we came in with the girls, were the first 567 00:26:14,384 --> 00:26:18,104 Speaker 8: ones to shoot and start in Thailand, and we did 568 00:26:18,184 --> 00:26:21,664 Speaker 8: our first villasine like literally like here's the Thailand, and we. 569 00:26:21,704 --> 00:26:23,384 Speaker 6: Sort of motored through the scene. It's like a five 570 00:26:23,464 --> 00:26:24,264 Speaker 6: page scene. 571 00:26:24,704 --> 00:26:26,464 Speaker 8: And then Mike County is like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 572 00:26:26,504 --> 00:26:29,184 Speaker 8: slow down, slow down, slow down, which you don't often 573 00:26:29,264 --> 00:26:32,744 Speaker 8: hear in television, and it just sort of for me 574 00:26:33,024 --> 00:26:36,304 Speaker 8: was like, oh, yeah, it's not it's what we're not saying. 575 00:26:36,904 --> 00:26:41,184 Speaker 8: He's like, I'm okay with silences. Just such a beautiful thing. 576 00:26:41,304 --> 00:26:46,184 Speaker 8: And for me, I think it was the real turning 577 00:26:46,264 --> 00:26:48,824 Speaker 8: point where everything sort of I don't even know if 578 00:26:48,864 --> 00:26:54,864 Speaker 8: I was aware consciously, but subconsciously something shifted with the 579 00:26:54,944 --> 00:26:57,384 Speaker 8: work I'd already started to prepare for Kate. 580 00:26:58,064 --> 00:26:58,464 Speaker 1: I know it. 581 00:26:58,664 --> 00:27:01,664 Speaker 8: It changed, not the course, but it just it's like 582 00:27:01,704 --> 00:27:04,264 Speaker 8: I got a couple extra paddles yea for my canoe, 583 00:27:04,464 --> 00:27:06,704 Speaker 8: and I was like, okay, now let's go up stream. 584 00:27:07,304 --> 00:27:08,224 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah, And. 585 00:27:08,304 --> 00:27:10,224 Speaker 1: On that relate ability that you both told came out again. 586 00:27:10,344 --> 00:27:12,544 Speaker 1: It's a very small scene that has gone quite viral. 587 00:27:12,584 --> 00:27:14,304 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the stories around it. 588 00:27:14,664 --> 00:27:17,024 Speaker 1: A writer at our network wrote a story that we've 589 00:27:17,104 --> 00:27:19,544 Speaker 1: never had. We've had thousands of comments from the pool 590 00:27:19,584 --> 00:27:21,504 Speaker 1: scene where the group of friends go to the pool 591 00:27:21,824 --> 00:27:24,264 Speaker 1: and then the Jacqueline in particular looks around and says, 592 00:27:24,504 --> 00:27:26,744 Speaker 1: wait a second, is this how the world sees us 593 00:27:27,144 --> 00:27:29,864 Speaker 1: in this whom category? Where we see ourselves in this 594 00:27:29,984 --> 00:27:32,464 Speaker 1: completely different life stage and you see kind of push 595 00:27:32,544 --> 00:27:34,304 Speaker 1: against that. So what was it like to feel that 596 00:27:34,464 --> 00:27:36,104 Speaker 1: scene or was that a conversation that you were having 597 00:27:36,184 --> 00:27:38,104 Speaker 1: on set on that thing of like being put into 598 00:27:38,144 --> 00:27:38,944 Speaker 1: an age group that you. 599 00:27:39,144 --> 00:27:40,544 Speaker 6: Well, I think that we were. 600 00:27:40,904 --> 00:27:43,824 Speaker 8: I mean, first off, Michelle Carey and I would never 601 00:27:44,464 --> 00:27:46,504 Speaker 8: there would only be one of us, right, They only 602 00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,824 Speaker 8: like they'll cast like more men in the same age, 603 00:27:49,864 --> 00:27:53,104 Speaker 8: I find usually, but if it's like it's one woman 604 00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:56,944 Speaker 8: orient you are the woman of color, or you're the 605 00:27:57,024 --> 00:27:58,224 Speaker 8: woman with the blonde. 606 00:27:57,944 --> 00:28:01,264 Speaker 6: Hair, you're this, or you're that, and you're one. 607 00:28:01,824 --> 00:28:03,664 Speaker 8: So to be able to go work with two women 608 00:28:03,704 --> 00:28:06,024 Speaker 8: that I really admire and I would never get to 609 00:28:06,144 --> 00:28:08,464 Speaker 8: have this, I'd never be in the same playing field 610 00:28:08,504 --> 00:28:12,904 Speaker 8: with them, was really exciting. So also, Mike writes, great 611 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:16,024 Speaker 8: women who are twenty two years old. Now you write 612 00:28:16,144 --> 00:28:18,864 Speaker 8: all they're great women who are twenty in their twenties 613 00:28:18,904 --> 00:28:22,664 Speaker 8: on the show, But there are a lot of women 614 00:28:23,304 --> 00:28:26,424 Speaker 8: who would be by Hollywood standards older. 615 00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:32,144 Speaker 6: Yeah, And Mike just writes for us. And it's not 616 00:28:32,264 --> 00:28:33,264 Speaker 6: scene in particular. 617 00:28:33,384 --> 00:28:36,904 Speaker 7: It's like to see the three of them juxtaposed with 618 00:28:37,024 --> 00:28:41,184 Speaker 7: like older women, and it's kind of the intersection of 619 00:28:41,344 --> 00:28:44,184 Speaker 7: like how they're being perceived and how they perceive themselves 620 00:28:44,984 --> 00:28:46,384 Speaker 7: and the tension. 621 00:28:46,064 --> 00:28:49,424 Speaker 6: Of that of like is this us and then bucking 622 00:28:49,504 --> 00:28:54,064 Speaker 6: it and yeah, I'm like, yeah, I mean I sometimes 623 00:28:54,144 --> 00:28:55,664 Speaker 6: do that. I mean I look in the mirror. 624 00:28:55,704 --> 00:28:58,544 Speaker 8: I mean, that's the weirdest thing with aging, Like in 625 00:28:58,704 --> 00:29:02,864 Speaker 8: my head, i still think I'm an entren and I'm like, no, girl. 626 00:29:04,624 --> 00:29:05,944 Speaker 1: But I think we all do it. 627 00:29:06,184 --> 00:29:10,184 Speaker 6: But I also don't want to believe the number that 628 00:29:10,464 --> 00:29:11,104 Speaker 6: to sign. 629 00:29:10,944 --> 00:29:12,464 Speaker 1: To me because I think there. 630 00:29:15,624 --> 00:29:18,304 Speaker 8: I remember my mom said something to me like she's like, well, 631 00:29:18,384 --> 00:29:21,384 Speaker 8: I'm in the twilight of my years and I was like, Mom, 632 00:29:21,424 --> 00:29:22,264 Speaker 8: you're sixty five. 633 00:29:22,504 --> 00:29:24,144 Speaker 6: That's not a lot of life. 634 00:29:24,184 --> 00:29:24,384 Speaker 1: Lift. 635 00:29:24,584 --> 00:29:29,264 Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think the power of believing that is 636 00:29:29,904 --> 00:29:31,384 Speaker 8: how old would you be if you didn't know how 637 00:29:31,424 --> 00:29:34,344 Speaker 8: old you were? And I think there is our minds 638 00:29:34,384 --> 00:29:37,464 Speaker 8: are really powerful. So I try not to think about that. 639 00:29:37,544 --> 00:29:41,024 Speaker 8: So I kind of love Jacqueline like lifting up and 640 00:29:41,144 --> 00:29:44,184 Speaker 8: being like where the world and she's like, let's go. 641 00:29:44,704 --> 00:29:47,784 Speaker 8: And then I know she can be Jacqueline can be 642 00:29:48,064 --> 00:29:50,544 Speaker 8: a tricky friend sometimes like maybe you don't want your 643 00:29:50,584 --> 00:29:51,224 Speaker 8: men around her. 644 00:29:51,584 --> 00:29:55,864 Speaker 6: Yeah, but but she is a good time and she 645 00:29:56,104 --> 00:30:00,104 Speaker 6: does have like she's like, let's do it. We're not dead, 646 00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:00,784 Speaker 6: let's go. 647 00:30:01,024 --> 00:30:03,824 Speaker 8: And so there's some part of I think all the women, 648 00:30:04,464 --> 00:30:07,944 Speaker 8: like all of us, have like things that are assets 649 00:30:08,144 --> 00:30:11,024 Speaker 8: and things that are maybe their achilles that they. 650 00:30:10,984 --> 00:30:13,304 Speaker 7: Can work on, and every kind of friendship group, each 651 00:30:13,384 --> 00:30:16,424 Speaker 7: person has their own sort of superpower. Yeah, And Jacquelin's 652 00:30:16,504 --> 00:30:18,624 Speaker 7: is like let's go and You're just like, we're not 653 00:30:18,704 --> 00:30:19,384 Speaker 7: going to wake up. 654 00:30:19,464 --> 00:30:20,224 Speaker 5: You know we have to. 655 00:30:22,704 --> 00:30:25,504 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, she's not going to let you make that 656 00:30:25,624 --> 00:30:28,224 Speaker 8: bad of a decision. I'm surprised she didn't go, Like 657 00:30:28,424 --> 00:30:30,104 Speaker 8: if she could have, she would have probably knocked on 658 00:30:30,584 --> 00:30:31,624 Speaker 8: and like stop. 659 00:30:31,624 --> 00:30:34,504 Speaker 2: That, I'm going to sleep. 660 00:30:35,064 --> 00:30:35,264 Speaker 7: Guy. 661 00:30:38,544 --> 00:30:41,424 Speaker 8: I made a choice because I wasn't supposed to. But 662 00:30:41,584 --> 00:30:47,064 Speaker 8: I was like, Kate does not like Valentine, yes, because 663 00:30:47,104 --> 00:30:49,504 Speaker 8: it wasn't supposed to. And I just suddenly I was like, 664 00:30:50,064 --> 00:30:52,664 Speaker 8: he is ruining our vacation. So I was like every 665 00:30:52,704 --> 00:30:54,984 Speaker 8: time he comes, Kate's always like oh Hill. 666 00:30:59,304 --> 00:31:01,064 Speaker 1: And as we moved towards the finale, and I can 667 00:31:01,104 --> 00:31:03,584 Speaker 1: tell the careful you both been not to give anything 668 00:31:03,624 --> 00:31:06,304 Speaker 1: away because people are so desperate to know. How hard 669 00:31:06,344 --> 00:31:08,504 Speaker 1: does it mean to keep these secrets. I mean you're 670 00:31:08,504 --> 00:31:10,264 Speaker 1: saying that you're reading the script and you're really passed 671 00:31:10,464 --> 00:31:13,024 Speaker 1: yet and you're having to keep your secrets and Sammy 672 00:31:13,224 --> 00:31:17,984 Speaker 1: and also with your part coming in and having what 673 00:31:18,064 --> 00:31:19,024 Speaker 1: are the lengths we go to? 674 00:31:19,344 --> 00:31:22,824 Speaker 7: It is I've lied to like my mother's face, like 675 00:31:22,984 --> 00:31:27,984 Speaker 7: I just I won't tell anyone. And I was announced 676 00:31:28,184 --> 00:31:31,504 Speaker 7: as being returning when they thought we were shooting the 677 00:31:31,704 --> 00:31:32,864 Speaker 7: end of twenty twenty three. 678 00:31:32,744 --> 00:31:33,664 Speaker 6: But the strikes happened. 679 00:31:33,944 --> 00:31:36,384 Speaker 7: So I was out on a limb by myself for 680 00:31:36,544 --> 00:31:39,024 Speaker 7: a year before anyone else had to carry the burden 681 00:31:39,104 --> 00:31:40,744 Speaker 7: of like knowing what was going to happen. And so 682 00:31:41,424 --> 00:31:43,744 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be such a cathartic experience 683 00:31:43,824 --> 00:31:47,104 Speaker 7: to have the world finally, But I don't. 684 00:31:46,904 --> 00:31:47,664 Speaker 3: Want it to end. 685 00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:50,704 Speaker 1: I love lying to your loved ones as well. How 686 00:31:50,744 --> 00:31:51,144 Speaker 1: many lives? 687 00:31:51,224 --> 00:31:53,984 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just don't. I just I just looked down. 688 00:31:54,464 --> 00:31:57,344 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just went down, and I'm like, y yeah yah, 689 00:31:57,384 --> 00:31:59,024 Speaker 8: yeah yeah yeah yeah sure yeah. 690 00:31:59,264 --> 00:32:01,384 Speaker 6: Also too, was there something that happened? 691 00:32:01,424 --> 00:32:04,864 Speaker 8: Am I making this up that once we all sort 692 00:32:04,904 --> 00:32:08,544 Speaker 8: of read the scenes that then they they sent out 693 00:32:08,664 --> 00:32:09,664 Speaker 8: like fake sides. 694 00:32:09,904 --> 00:32:14,464 Speaker 6: Oh you would have to. There's fakes rats. 695 00:32:14,264 --> 00:32:19,984 Speaker 7: On set pages with different endings, and just to make sure. 696 00:32:19,944 --> 00:32:24,144 Speaker 8: In case we could catch someone sharing, So you shut 697 00:32:24,624 --> 00:32:27,664 Speaker 8: your mouth because they really will set you up. 698 00:32:27,824 --> 00:32:28,024 Speaker 3: Yeah. 699 00:32:29,304 --> 00:32:31,024 Speaker 1: Well, we can't wait to see the finale. And also, 700 00:32:31,104 --> 00:32:33,264 Speaker 1: just this season has been so incredible and you're both do. 701 00:32:33,304 --> 00:32:35,144 Speaker 6: You like the music? I actually did? 702 00:32:36,264 --> 00:32:38,864 Speaker 1: Each each season should have its own times. 703 00:32:38,984 --> 00:32:41,064 Speaker 6: It should love that. 704 00:32:41,224 --> 00:32:43,824 Speaker 8: Sorry, I love it's really good. I feel like people 705 00:32:43,864 --> 00:32:46,704 Speaker 8: are now catching on. Like I think Cyst was like 706 00:32:46,984 --> 00:32:48,824 Speaker 8: it's don't worry, it's gonna make sense. 707 00:32:49,024 --> 00:32:51,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, no, I loved it. And again, thank you 708 00:32:51,224 --> 00:32:55,104 Speaker 1: both so much, Thank you so much, thank you so much. 709 00:32:55,664 --> 00:32:57,424 Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's interesting. 710 00:32:57,544 --> 00:33:00,264 Speaker 4: Look, I think I just am so hooked on that 711 00:33:00,704 --> 00:33:03,544 Speaker 4: theme song from the second season. But I do agree 712 00:33:03,624 --> 00:33:05,464 Speaker 4: it does need to be different for each season. It's 713 00:33:05,504 --> 00:33:08,384 Speaker 4: got to fit the vibe. But I think that second 714 00:33:08,424 --> 00:33:09,904 Speaker 4: one just had such a good like I want to 715 00:33:10,024 --> 00:33:12,224 Speaker 4: dance to it, Like it really gets in your head, 716 00:33:12,304 --> 00:33:12,624 Speaker 4: that one. 717 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:14,824 Speaker 1: Even though obviously when I said to Leslie there like 718 00:33:14,864 --> 00:33:16,064 Speaker 1: I don't know, I liked it, and I did. I 719 00:33:16,184 --> 00:33:18,104 Speaker 1: was not one of those people who were so thrown 720 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,104 Speaker 1: by the theme song. Maybe at first I was a 721 00:33:20,144 --> 00:33:22,424 Speaker 1: bit like ah, but especially as it's gone on, it's 722 00:33:22,464 --> 00:33:25,544 Speaker 1: really grown on me. Like she's been doing so many interviews, 723 00:33:25,824 --> 00:33:27,344 Speaker 1: you know how, like when you're doing these junkers, you 724 00:33:27,464 --> 00:33:29,864 Speaker 1: get the really intense wrap up like get like cut 725 00:33:29,944 --> 00:33:31,424 Speaker 1: the interview, get out of the room. Now. I was 726 00:33:31,504 --> 00:33:33,384 Speaker 1: getting that, and so I'm trying to end it, you 727 00:33:33,504 --> 00:33:35,864 Speaker 1: probably hear, and then she just kind of jumps in 728 00:33:35,984 --> 00:33:37,304 Speaker 1: with like what did you think of the theme song, 729 00:33:37,384 --> 00:33:39,024 Speaker 1: So it must be the one question that no one 730 00:33:39,064 --> 00:33:41,224 Speaker 1: had asked her about that she was really wanting to 731 00:33:41,304 --> 00:33:44,304 Speaker 1: get into. But yes, those were all these three women 732 00:33:44,504 --> 00:33:47,264 Speaker 1: so incredible. So the last episode of The White Lotus 733 00:33:47,304 --> 00:33:50,784 Speaker 1: Season three is going to air this Monday on Binge, 734 00:33:50,944 --> 00:33:52,944 Speaker 1: and then I guess you, people like you, people like 735 00:33:53,024 --> 00:33:55,504 Speaker 1: you can go back and watch the entire mate, watch 736 00:33:55,664 --> 00:33:58,984 Speaker 1: you season people who have somehow not had the entire 737 00:33:59,064 --> 00:34:01,304 Speaker 1: show ruined. How you had the entire show ruined for 738 00:34:01,384 --> 00:34:04,184 Speaker 1: you so far a day after? All I see is 739 00:34:04,384 --> 00:34:06,744 Speaker 1: every plot point from the show. It means and things. 740 00:34:06,824 --> 00:34:08,904 Speaker 3: I know that there's some sort of incest thing. I 741 00:34:09,104 --> 00:34:11,144 Speaker 3: know that there's like some murder thing. 742 00:34:11,264 --> 00:34:13,744 Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't like Also, I don't mind a spoiler, 743 00:34:13,824 --> 00:34:15,704 Speaker 4: like a yeah yeah. I'm one of these people that 744 00:34:15,784 --> 00:34:17,264 Speaker 4: I can read the last page of a book and 745 00:34:17,784 --> 00:34:19,864 Speaker 4: still go and read it, like I don't mind knowing 746 00:34:20,064 --> 00:34:22,504 Speaker 4: such different people. I don't mind knowing the ending. So 747 00:34:22,584 --> 00:34:23,544 Speaker 4: it hasn't really bothered me. 748 00:34:23,624 --> 00:34:26,344 Speaker 1: I just like to Binge, well, that's what you're gonna 749 00:34:26,344 --> 00:34:28,104 Speaker 1: be able to do after this Monday, because then you'll 750 00:34:28,104 --> 00:34:29,464 Speaker 1: have all of season three and you can just go 751 00:34:29,544 --> 00:34:31,304 Speaker 1: and watch it all in one go and you'll be 752 00:34:31,344 --> 00:34:33,344 Speaker 1: having all of these experiences that we've been having for 753 00:34:33,384 --> 00:34:35,064 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but it'll be a wild ride. 754 00:34:35,104 --> 00:34:37,864 Speaker 3: It's yeah, I look. I loved listening to those interviews, 755 00:34:37,944 --> 00:34:39,424 Speaker 3: so great job on those. 756 00:34:40,224 --> 00:34:42,504 Speaker 1: Well. Thank you so much for listening to this spill today, 757 00:34:42,544 --> 00:34:44,384 Speaker 1: And if you want more from the Spill, make sure 758 00:34:44,424 --> 00:34:47,184 Speaker 1: you're following us on Instagram at the Spill podcast because 759 00:34:47,184 --> 00:34:50,744 Speaker 1: we've posted clips from our interviews with the White LOADUS stars, 760 00:34:50,824 --> 00:34:52,824 Speaker 1: clips from the events we've been to this week. We 761 00:34:52,944 --> 00:34:56,144 Speaker 1: also share TV recommendations and articles that you'll like. It's 762 00:34:56,184 --> 00:34:58,424 Speaker 1: just a really fun time. And thank you so much 763 00:34:58,504 --> 00:35:01,424 Speaker 1: to Casaniel for joining us this week and jumping in 764 00:35:01,464 --> 00:35:05,664 Speaker 1: all the hot important topics from Megan Markle to NEPO babies. 765 00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:07,424 Speaker 3: It's all been happening and I love it. Thank you 766 00:35:07,544 --> 00:35:08,424 Speaker 3: for having me again. 767 00:35:08,944 --> 00:35:11,424 Speaker 1: The Spill is produced by Nen Green with sound production 768 00:35:11,504 --> 00:35:13,504 Speaker 1: by Scott Stronik and we'll see you back here on 769 00:35:13,584 --> 00:35:15,824 Speaker 1: your podcast feed at three pm on Monday. 770 00:35:16,224 --> 00:35:16,984 Speaker 2: Bye bye.