1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,744 --> 00:00:29,464 Speaker 1: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,544 --> 00:00:32,664 Speaker 1: Brodneck and I'm m Vernon. Back from the long weekend. 7 00:00:32,784 --> 00:00:35,344 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, so much to say. So much has happened. 8 00:00:35,344 --> 00:00:37,784 Speaker 1: How was your long weekend? Oh, it was actually delightful 9 00:00:37,784 --> 00:00:39,744 Speaker 1: and action packed. We won't get into yours because you're 10 00:00:39,744 --> 00:00:42,464 Speaker 1: feeling a bit bit stressed about I'm. 11 00:00:42,304 --> 00:00:44,104 Speaker 3: A complex about doing nothing on the long weekend, which 12 00:00:44,144 --> 00:00:45,024 Speaker 3: is exactly what I did. 13 00:00:45,144 --> 00:00:47,504 Speaker 1: This whole podcast is center around people who did nothing 14 00:00:47,504 --> 00:00:50,384 Speaker 1: on their weekends, which I love being that person, and 15 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:52,344 Speaker 1: that's what we can watches Bill tround the idea that 16 00:00:52,344 --> 00:00:55,784 Speaker 1: you stay inside and just watch TV shows and movies, 17 00:00:55,904 --> 00:00:58,344 Speaker 1: So don't feel bad about that. Coming on the show today. 18 00:00:58,384 --> 00:01:00,784 Speaker 1: So much to discuss. So much happened over long weekend. 19 00:01:01,104 --> 00:01:04,104 Speaker 1: We have two very famous comedians, former co stars, at 20 00:01:04,144 --> 00:01:05,824 Speaker 1: odds with each other in the public. We're going to 21 00:01:05,824 --> 00:01:09,264 Speaker 1: get into that. We have a sexy new relationship that 22 00:01:09,384 --> 00:01:12,264 Speaker 1: was debuted by music video, but there is a dark undecided. 23 00:01:12,464 --> 00:01:15,064 Speaker 1: I love love sometimes just feeling like I work at 24 00:01:15,064 --> 00:01:16,944 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, getting to do these kind of headlines. 25 00:01:17,064 --> 00:01:19,864 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into both of those things. But first, 26 00:01:20,344 --> 00:01:21,224 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. 27 00:01:21,344 --> 00:01:24,384 Speaker 3: First, you have some news for me that I don't 28 00:01:24,464 --> 00:01:25,424 Speaker 3: quite understand. 29 00:01:25,784 --> 00:01:27,064 Speaker 1: Most of the time, I don't feel like we have 30 00:01:27,104 --> 00:01:29,424 Speaker 1: a ten year age gap, but today I really feel 31 00:01:29,864 --> 00:01:34,264 Speaker 1: like we do, because so many millennials, especially elder millennials 32 00:01:34,304 --> 00:01:38,544 Speaker 1: like myself, woke up today to the joyous, joyous news 33 00:01:38,584 --> 00:01:43,144 Speaker 1: that Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock are in talks to 34 00:01:43,264 --> 00:01:45,264 Speaker 1: start in Practical Magic too. 35 00:01:46,584 --> 00:01:49,384 Speaker 3: What would wait? Two? 36 00:01:50,024 --> 00:01:50,344 Speaker 4: Okay? 37 00:01:50,504 --> 00:01:52,784 Speaker 1: So, oh this is so stressful. So you've never seen 38 00:01:52,784 --> 00:01:57,064 Speaker 1: Practical Magic. It's such important movie. Well that happens Nicole 39 00:01:58,344 --> 00:02:00,584 Speaker 1: all weekend? You didn't watch Practical Magic? Yes, so you 40 00:02:00,624 --> 00:02:02,424 Speaker 1: can have given me your list of things to watch. 41 00:02:02,464 --> 00:02:04,664 Speaker 1: I just assume that everyone has watched this movie, but 42 00:02:04,704 --> 00:02:06,744 Speaker 1: I do know never to assume things for me. I 43 00:02:06,784 --> 00:02:09,504 Speaker 1: watch Expendables too. What do you expect from it? So 44 00:02:09,624 --> 00:02:12,104 Speaker 1: this movie came out in nineteen ninety eight and it's 45 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:14,824 Speaker 1: an absolute classic. It's also had a huge resurgence on 46 00:02:14,904 --> 00:02:17,184 Speaker 1: TikTok in the last couple of years. There are whole 47 00:02:17,264 --> 00:02:19,984 Speaker 1: sections of TikTok dedicated to living like these women. So 48 00:02:20,024 --> 00:02:23,504 Speaker 1: it's Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman who play the Owen sisters, 49 00:02:23,824 --> 00:02:25,624 Speaker 1: and it's this whole thing. They live on this tiny 50 00:02:25,664 --> 00:02:27,864 Speaker 1: island and their witches and their mum was a witch 51 00:02:27,864 --> 00:02:30,304 Speaker 1: and their aunts were a witch, and it's also woo woo. 52 00:02:30,584 --> 00:02:33,984 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but like cutesy witchcraft, okay, as in, like 53 00:02:34,024 --> 00:02:35,824 Speaker 1: you live in a beautiful house and you have a 54 00:02:35,864 --> 00:02:37,904 Speaker 1: normal life, but you still have magical powers like. 55 00:02:37,864 --> 00:02:38,744 Speaker 3: Ellen Child did. 56 00:02:39,144 --> 00:02:41,944 Speaker 1: It's way darker than that. You've got one sister, Sandra Bullock, 57 00:02:41,984 --> 00:02:44,504 Speaker 1: who you know is raising her own two little witchy kids. 58 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:47,504 Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman's her kind of bad seed sister who ran away. 59 00:02:47,824 --> 00:02:51,544 Speaker 1: She comes back after an abusive boyfriend. There's murder, there's 60 00:02:51,584 --> 00:02:55,224 Speaker 1: death cover ups, there's spells, there's true love. It's this huge, 61 00:02:55,224 --> 00:02:57,704 Speaker 1: cold classic of a movie, and they're in talks to 62 00:02:57,824 --> 00:02:59,784 Speaker 1: make a second one. And normally I'd be like a 63 00:02:59,824 --> 00:03:02,304 Speaker 1: perfect movie, just leave it alone, but I feel like 64 00:03:02,344 --> 00:03:04,664 Speaker 1: this is just right to pick up all these years 65 00:03:04,704 --> 00:03:06,144 Speaker 1: later of where these women are now. 66 00:03:06,424 --> 00:03:09,104 Speaker 3: Okay, so I need to watch Practical Magic one hundred 67 00:03:09,104 --> 00:03:10,704 Speaker 3: percent you would really like it. 68 00:03:10,864 --> 00:03:13,544 Speaker 1: Some of the like phrases from it have become really iconic, 69 00:03:14,184 --> 00:03:16,744 Speaker 1: and also so many parts of pop culture that have 70 00:03:16,784 --> 00:03:19,184 Speaker 1: built around this. Did you watch the Dolly Alderson series 71 00:03:19,184 --> 00:03:21,984 Speaker 1: Everything I Know about Love The scene where they dance 72 00:03:22,024 --> 00:03:24,784 Speaker 1: around and make the margaritas, that's an homage to practical Magic. 73 00:03:24,784 --> 00:03:26,704 Speaker 1: There's that scene in the movie, the same song, the 74 00:03:26,784 --> 00:03:30,264 Speaker 1: same movement, the same drinks. Everything everything links back to 75 00:03:30,304 --> 00:03:30,824 Speaker 1: this movie. 76 00:03:30,944 --> 00:03:33,384 Speaker 3: Oh, the line and the coch I've seen tiktoks of 77 00:03:33,584 --> 00:03:38,744 Speaker 3: Sandra Bullock and the Colkin got it now, So like 78 00:03:38,864 --> 00:03:40,744 Speaker 3: serious are these talks that there's still be number. 79 00:03:40,504 --> 00:03:42,984 Speaker 1: Two only that they've signed on officially to do talks 80 00:03:43,024 --> 00:03:45,064 Speaker 1: around it. So it looks like it's moving ahead. These 81 00:03:45,064 --> 00:03:47,184 Speaker 1: things move so slowly, like it'll be five years before 82 00:03:47,184 --> 00:03:47,944 Speaker 1: we even see, like. 83 00:03:48,064 --> 00:03:49,224 Speaker 3: You know, Princess Diaries. 84 00:03:49,624 --> 00:03:51,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But there's a director attached, there's a script 85 00:03:52,024 --> 00:03:53,784 Speaker 1: apparently in the works, and just the fact that they've 86 00:03:53,784 --> 00:03:56,304 Speaker 1: both gone the records saying that they're in talks about 87 00:03:56,344 --> 00:03:58,704 Speaker 1: it and they're sorting it out, that's very good news. 88 00:04:01,144 --> 00:04:04,584 Speaker 3: Julia Louis Dreyfus has had a profile in the New 89 00:04:04,664 --> 00:04:07,464 Speaker 3: York Times recently where she talked about her career in 90 00:04:07,544 --> 00:04:10,264 Speaker 3: comedy and how she's kind of transitioning from a commit 91 00:04:10,744 --> 00:04:12,904 Speaker 3: and having that comedic role to more of like a 92 00:04:13,024 --> 00:04:16,184 Speaker 3: drama serious role. If you don't know her, yes you do. 93 00:04:16,344 --> 00:04:19,304 Speaker 3: You know her from Seinfeld starting next to Jerry Seinfeld 94 00:04:19,304 --> 00:04:21,464 Speaker 3: as well as Veep, which is one of my favorite 95 00:04:21,504 --> 00:04:25,064 Speaker 3: shows of all time. So in the interview, she was 96 00:04:25,144 --> 00:04:29,704 Speaker 3: asked about her thoughts on Jerry's recent comments on modern comedy. 97 00:04:29,904 --> 00:04:32,144 Speaker 3: This is what he said in a podcast a while back. 98 00:04:32,184 --> 00:04:33,664 Speaker 3: If you aren't cross it. 99 00:04:33,664 --> 00:04:35,064 Speaker 2: Used to be you would go home at the end 100 00:04:35,064 --> 00:04:37,944 Speaker 2: of the day. Most people would go, oh, cheers is on, 101 00:04:38,024 --> 00:04:40,504 Speaker 2: Oh mansh is on Oh, Mary Tayler Moore is on 102 00:04:40,944 --> 00:04:44,144 Speaker 2: All the Family's on. You just expected there'll be some 103 00:04:44,144 --> 00:04:46,624 Speaker 2: funny stuff we can watch on TV tonight. Well guess 104 00:04:46,664 --> 00:04:49,584 Speaker 2: what where is it? This is the result of the 105 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:53,824 Speaker 2: extreme left and PC crap and people worrying so much 106 00:04:53,864 --> 00:04:55,144 Speaker 2: about offending other people. 107 00:04:55,864 --> 00:04:58,584 Speaker 1: So it gets I've heard it so many times. It 108 00:04:58,624 --> 00:05:00,024 Speaker 1: gets worse every time I hear it. 109 00:05:00,104 --> 00:05:03,824 Speaker 3: It worse every time. It's really interesting because when this happened, 110 00:05:03,864 --> 00:05:05,784 Speaker 3: which was a while back, it did go viral. Like 111 00:05:05,824 --> 00:05:08,224 Speaker 3: I was singing it all over Twitter, all over TikTok, 112 00:05:08,544 --> 00:05:11,824 Speaker 3: people calling him out, especially using words like PC crap 113 00:05:11,984 --> 00:05:14,504 Speaker 3: and the extreme left to say that they were the 114 00:05:14,544 --> 00:05:18,024 Speaker 3: ones who ended good comedy. I guess the interesting thing, though, 115 00:05:18,224 --> 00:05:20,904 Speaker 3: was that he didn't get canceled, because he's kind of 116 00:05:20,904 --> 00:05:23,864 Speaker 3: like always had this kind of viewpoint on modern comedy, 117 00:05:23,944 --> 00:05:26,704 Speaker 3: Like he is pretty like crass with the way he 118 00:05:26,744 --> 00:05:29,464 Speaker 3: talks about comedy in general. So we didn't really like 119 00:05:29,544 --> 00:05:31,824 Speaker 3: take off. But what was really interesting was that the 120 00:05:31,824 --> 00:05:37,584 Speaker 3: interviewer actually asked Julia Luis Dreyfuss, who starred with Jerry Seinfeld. 121 00:05:37,584 --> 00:05:39,624 Speaker 3: They've been friends for a really long time, what her 122 00:05:39,784 --> 00:05:42,384 Speaker 3: take was on that comment. And this is what she said. 123 00:05:42,624 --> 00:05:46,864 Speaker 4: When I hear people starting to complain about political correctness, 124 00:05:47,264 --> 00:05:50,504 Speaker 4: to me, that's a red flag because sometimes it means 125 00:05:50,544 --> 00:05:57,584 Speaker 4: something else. I believe being aware of certain sensitivities is 126 00:05:57,624 --> 00:05:58,384 Speaker 4: not a bad thing. 127 00:05:58,704 --> 00:06:02,544 Speaker 3: I love this response exactly. I think it was so 128 00:06:02,704 --> 00:06:05,624 Speaker 3: telling because Jerry Seinfeld firstly says, you've had mash She 129 00:06:05,704 --> 00:06:07,304 Speaker 3: had all these great shows back in the day, and 130 00:06:07,344 --> 00:06:10,064 Speaker 3: what he's basically saying was nothing great has happened since then. 131 00:06:10,664 --> 00:06:13,424 Speaker 3: And I thought that both of them starring in Seinfeld, 132 00:06:13,544 --> 00:06:15,504 Speaker 3: her career just kind of took off, like she did 133 00:06:15,584 --> 00:06:18,824 Speaker 3: all of these amazing things, and he did the b movie. 134 00:06:18,744 --> 00:06:21,904 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and he has that Frosted that was Unfrosted 135 00:06:22,584 --> 00:06:24,584 Speaker 1: movie recently. Yeah. I don't want to take away from 136 00:06:24,664 --> 00:06:26,704 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld too much. I should say, like it's easy 137 00:06:26,704 --> 00:06:28,264 Speaker 1: for me to dismiss him because I'm not a fan 138 00:06:28,304 --> 00:06:30,344 Speaker 1: of Seinfeld. I tried to watch it just wasn't for me. 139 00:06:30,584 --> 00:06:33,424 Speaker 1: But I understand that's a really iconic comedy and a 140 00:06:33,424 --> 00:06:35,224 Speaker 1: lot of people really love it, and you know, all 141 00:06:35,264 --> 00:06:37,304 Speaker 1: those kind of things. But at the same time, that 142 00:06:37,424 --> 00:06:41,144 Speaker 1: was decades ago, and apart from Comedians in Cars Getting 143 00:06:41,144 --> 00:06:44,344 Speaker 1: Coffee that TV series, he hasn't really had a comedy 144 00:06:44,424 --> 00:06:47,184 Speaker 1: hit since then, and I think he's got this idea 145 00:06:47,224 --> 00:06:49,664 Speaker 1: in his head that good comedy is over. I look 146 00:06:49,664 --> 00:06:51,824 Speaker 1: at the TV shows that I've been watching, even as 147 00:06:51,904 --> 00:06:54,944 Speaker 1: much as this year, and how clever the comedy is, 148 00:06:54,984 --> 00:06:57,624 Speaker 1: Like Hacks. I show like Hacks is on TV and 149 00:06:57,664 --> 00:07:01,264 Speaker 1: they talk about all this very politically incorrect things, but 150 00:07:01,384 --> 00:07:04,024 Speaker 1: it's done with smartness and such new ones and such 151 00:07:04,064 --> 00:07:06,504 Speaker 1: a general humor. Like if it's really funny, you can 152 00:07:06,504 --> 00:07:09,064 Speaker 1: get a joke across the line. I think Jerry Seinfeld 153 00:07:09,104 --> 00:07:11,384 Speaker 1: just he doesn't have the comedy chops anymore. He's not 154 00:07:11,424 --> 00:07:14,224 Speaker 1: funny anymore. He can't create, and so he's blaming it 155 00:07:14,224 --> 00:07:16,624 Speaker 1: on the past instead of looking around at all of 156 00:07:16,624 --> 00:07:19,784 Speaker 1: these comedians who are doing amazing things, releasing amazing specials, 157 00:07:19,864 --> 00:07:23,104 Speaker 1: making these great TV shows, and it's like things haven't changed, 158 00:07:23,224 --> 00:07:26,224 Speaker 1: comedy has become smarter, and it's passed you by. Yeah. 159 00:07:26,344 --> 00:07:29,864 Speaker 3: I think it's actually quite embarrassing on him after she 160 00:07:30,024 --> 00:07:32,864 Speaker 3: said this, because there have been a lot of people 161 00:07:32,904 --> 00:07:36,184 Speaker 3: on Jerry Seinfeld's side. He is known as one of 162 00:07:36,224 --> 00:07:39,344 Speaker 3: the grapes of comedy. But the fact that he was 163 00:07:39,384 --> 00:07:42,224 Speaker 3: saying that there hasn't been any good comedy, I'm like, no, 164 00:07:42,304 --> 00:07:45,104 Speaker 3: there hasn't been good comedy. You just haven't made any 165 00:07:45,104 --> 00:07:45,584 Speaker 3: good comedy. 166 00:07:45,624 --> 00:07:47,664 Speaker 1: To get direct hit to Julia too, because he was 167 00:07:47,704 --> 00:07:49,344 Speaker 1: on the air for so many seasons and it was 168 00:07:49,384 --> 00:07:51,824 Speaker 1: so critically acclaimed. It was like, your co stars have 169 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:54,144 Speaker 1: gone on to make these amazing things and somehow they 170 00:07:54,224 --> 00:07:57,264 Speaker 1: managed to step around, especially that show. VEP is like 171 00:07:57,264 --> 00:07:59,104 Speaker 1: there's a lot of times where it's not politically correct, 172 00:07:59,144 --> 00:08:02,344 Speaker 1: exact and funny it gets across the line. He's a 173 00:08:02,384 --> 00:08:06,064 Speaker 1: man who had like a streak of comedic golden popularity 174 00:08:06,064 --> 00:08:07,664 Speaker 1: if you look at it through the fans' eyes of 175 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:11,104 Speaker 1: that show. Who can't recreate that now? And it doesn't 176 00:08:11,104 --> 00:08:14,144 Speaker 1: sound like he's also consuming any new comedy and saying 177 00:08:14,144 --> 00:08:16,624 Speaker 1: like when you go home in the past, Yeah, saying 178 00:08:16,664 --> 00:08:18,144 Speaker 1: that you go home at night and there's nothing to 179 00:08:18,184 --> 00:08:19,864 Speaker 1: watch on TV. I was like, Jerry, I can send 180 00:08:19,864 --> 00:08:21,544 Speaker 1: you a list. I'll send you a list of weekend 181 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:23,104 Speaker 1: watch recommendations. 182 00:08:22,704 --> 00:08:25,024 Speaker 3: On the weekend. What surely he's listening to the spill. 183 00:08:25,424 --> 00:08:30,424 Speaker 3: What's also really interesting was going back to the Seinfeld days, 184 00:08:30,784 --> 00:08:33,344 Speaker 3: everyone thought that Jerry Seinfeld would be the one to 185 00:08:33,344 --> 00:08:35,384 Speaker 3: take I mean, his name is in the show, and 186 00:08:35,424 --> 00:08:39,024 Speaker 3: the fact that Julia Louis Dreyfuss was the one who 187 00:08:39,184 --> 00:08:41,904 Speaker 3: I guess is most known, especially with the younger generation, 188 00:08:42,024 --> 00:08:44,504 Speaker 3: Like I feel like everyone knows her and people have 189 00:08:44,584 --> 00:08:47,064 Speaker 3: kind of forgotten about him because he makes these weird 190 00:08:47,704 --> 00:08:49,584 Speaker 3: artsy comedy like the B movie. 191 00:08:49,864 --> 00:08:52,144 Speaker 1: Well he did apologize to the B movies. He should 192 00:08:52,144 --> 00:08:54,304 Speaker 1: have because well he's like sorry with the sexual tension, 193 00:08:54,304 --> 00:08:56,264 Speaker 1: I M no, the sexual tension going to being a human. 194 00:08:56,384 --> 00:08:58,584 Speaker 1: That's great, but they're fine even. 195 00:08:58,384 --> 00:09:00,864 Speaker 3: All the other stuff. Like I really enjoyed his series 196 00:09:01,344 --> 00:09:04,144 Speaker 3: Getting Coffee in the Car with Comedians. I thing he did, 197 00:09:04,664 --> 00:09:08,064 Speaker 3: but it's like his one thing is being himself and 198 00:09:08,104 --> 00:09:10,304 Speaker 3: he just does that over and over again. 199 00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:11,984 Speaker 1: Well, every time he does an interview now, he just 200 00:09:12,024 --> 00:09:13,984 Speaker 1: talks about, Oh, I can't do anything I want anymore. 201 00:09:14,024 --> 00:09:16,224 Speaker 1: Everythinge's holding me back. I'm like, like, no one is, 202 00:09:16,424 --> 00:09:19,104 Speaker 1: Like he just can't date an eighteen year old like 203 00:09:19,104 --> 00:09:20,544 Speaker 1: he used to back in the day when he was 204 00:09:20,584 --> 00:09:23,264 Speaker 1: like thirty five and they met in a park and 205 00:09:23,304 --> 00:09:25,184 Speaker 1: he used to go she was in like grade eleven. 206 00:09:25,184 --> 00:09:26,504 Speaker 1: He used to go pick her up after her like 207 00:09:26,584 --> 00:09:28,464 Speaker 1: science exams and stuff in his car and he was 208 00:09:28,464 --> 00:09:30,744 Speaker 1: like a mid thirties year old man. That's what he's like, 209 00:09:30,784 --> 00:09:33,184 Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. Turned against me. 210 00:09:33,264 --> 00:09:35,104 Speaker 3: Like, and that was so funny when I did that, Guys, 211 00:09:35,184 --> 00:09:36,184 Speaker 3: you remember when I did that, I. 212 00:09:36,144 --> 00:09:37,984 Speaker 1: Was dating a teenager. 213 00:09:38,304 --> 00:09:40,704 Speaker 3: I think he is using this as kind of a 214 00:09:40,744 --> 00:09:43,904 Speaker 3: cover on that comedy has kind of moved on without 215 00:09:43,984 --> 00:09:46,504 Speaker 3: him and he can't keep up. So he's just blaming 216 00:09:46,664 --> 00:09:50,264 Speaker 3: us for being left wing. So the entire profile of 217 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:52,784 Speaker 3: Julia was absolutely brilliant. If you want to read the 218 00:09:52,784 --> 00:09:54,144 Speaker 3: whole thing, we'll link it in that show notes. 219 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:59,744 Speaker 1: So Sabrina Carpenter have her of the world's best fringe 220 00:09:59,784 --> 00:10:01,544 Speaker 1: and hair, I think it can be said. And Barry 221 00:10:01,624 --> 00:10:04,264 Speaker 1: Kyugan no one for bringing back murder on the dance 222 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:07,264 Speaker 1: floor while dancing naked. Yah, classic movies, doing. 223 00:10:07,144 --> 00:10:08,344 Speaker 3: A lot of interesting things naked. 224 00:10:08,464 --> 00:10:10,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both really you know, creating our out there. 225 00:10:10,984 --> 00:10:13,304 Speaker 1: That's all we love to see. So they've hard launched 226 00:10:13,304 --> 00:10:15,824 Speaker 1: their relationship over the weekend unless you can, of course, 227 00:10:15,864 --> 00:10:17,504 Speaker 1: the fact that they were at the met Gala together 228 00:10:17,664 --> 00:10:20,904 Speaker 1: and he walked in during her Getting Ready video and 229 00:10:20,984 --> 00:10:23,424 Speaker 1: it's all very sexy on the red carpet. But they've 230 00:10:23,464 --> 00:10:27,264 Speaker 1: done a kind of classic Hollywood relationship like this is 231 00:10:27,304 --> 00:10:29,784 Speaker 1: for real. We're going to join our brand, our pop 232 00:10:29,824 --> 00:10:33,144 Speaker 1: culture brands together by starring in a music video together 233 00:10:33,384 --> 00:10:36,664 Speaker 1: for her new song produced by Jack Antonoff. Please Please, 234 00:10:36,704 --> 00:10:46,224 Speaker 1: Please please please don't bring me. What do you think 235 00:10:46,224 --> 00:10:46,944 Speaker 1: of this video clip? 236 00:10:47,024 --> 00:10:50,464 Speaker 3: Because it was very sexy. It was like she's doing 237 00:10:50,544 --> 00:10:53,384 Speaker 3: kind of like I guess, a storytelling thing in her 238 00:10:53,424 --> 00:10:56,504 Speaker 3: career because her last music video that went off was 239 00:10:56,704 --> 00:11:00,024 Speaker 3: Espresso and that's a banger a song, banger of a song, 240 00:11:00,104 --> 00:11:02,144 Speaker 3: and then you see her getting in handcuffs, and then 241 00:11:02,144 --> 00:11:04,784 Speaker 3: in this music video, please please please, you see her 242 00:11:04,824 --> 00:11:07,584 Speaker 3: in jail, and who else is in jail is also Barry. 243 00:11:07,784 --> 00:11:10,264 Speaker 1: She's weaving a cinematic universe. You know what she's doing. 244 00:11:10,464 --> 00:11:15,544 Speaker 3: She's doing Lady Gargain and Beyonce. Oh yes, yes, haven't 245 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:19,424 Speaker 3: got an ending for except her and Barry. The lyrics 246 00:11:19,424 --> 00:11:22,464 Speaker 3: of the song are very interesting. She's saying, please, please, please, 247 00:11:22,584 --> 00:11:24,664 Speaker 3: don't embarrass me, motherfucker. 248 00:11:25,504 --> 00:11:27,664 Speaker 1: Which is just fair, Which is fair. 249 00:11:28,184 --> 00:11:30,024 Speaker 3: When I first looked at this music video, I was like, 250 00:11:30,104 --> 00:11:32,464 Speaker 3: this is very cool, this is very sexy, and then 251 00:11:32,584 --> 00:11:36,344 Speaker 3: just watching them together, I'm like, oh, what she's really 252 00:11:36,464 --> 00:11:40,624 Speaker 3: saying is I've seen the way you treat women. Don't 253 00:11:40,664 --> 00:11:42,544 Speaker 3: do it to me because now I'm really famous and 254 00:11:42,544 --> 00:11:43,384 Speaker 3: you can't embarrass me. 255 00:11:43,624 --> 00:11:47,344 Speaker 1: People have really read into this music video because well, no, 256 00:11:47,424 --> 00:11:49,704 Speaker 1: I know, it's late. It's a big deal because everyone's 257 00:11:49,744 --> 00:11:51,424 Speaker 1: been obsessed with them as a couple for such a 258 00:11:51,424 --> 00:11:53,704 Speaker 1: long time, and so you know, it's exciting to see 259 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:56,264 Speaker 1: them in this kind of Bonnie and Clyde type music 260 00:11:56,344 --> 00:11:59,264 Speaker 1: video and the lying on the car and breaking to jail, 261 00:11:59,344 --> 00:12:01,744 Speaker 1: like it's all you know, it's really pleasing to the eye, 262 00:12:01,944 --> 00:12:04,104 Speaker 1: I would say, But the more people have watched it 263 00:12:04,104 --> 00:12:06,784 Speaker 1: and talked about it, it's like they've really hooked onto 264 00:12:06,824 --> 00:12:09,144 Speaker 1: his past and kind of feeling that there's this shady, 265 00:12:09,304 --> 00:12:12,904 Speaker 1: darker side to their relationship which was there before, but 266 00:12:12,944 --> 00:12:15,064 Speaker 1: I feel like now it's really heightened since this music 267 00:12:15,144 --> 00:12:17,464 Speaker 1: video came out. And what people are talking about is 268 00:12:17,464 --> 00:12:21,224 Speaker 1: the fact that Barry Kyrogan's ex girlfriend, Allison Sandro So 269 00:12:21,624 --> 00:12:24,344 Speaker 1: they were together for a couple of years. They broke 270 00:12:24,464 --> 00:12:26,584 Speaker 1: up in the American summer of twenty twenty three. It's 271 00:12:26,584 --> 00:12:30,184 Speaker 1: something last year, and during August twenty twenty two, she 272 00:12:30,344 --> 00:12:32,104 Speaker 1: gave birth to their son, Brando, which is a very 273 00:12:32,104 --> 00:12:36,224 Speaker 1: cute name, Brando Kogan Frands in the making, at the 274 00:12:36,224 --> 00:12:38,344 Speaker 1: same time that he was shooting Saltburn, So he was 275 00:12:38,384 --> 00:12:40,944 Speaker 1: away for like most of her pregnancy and the birth, 276 00:12:41,024 --> 00:12:42,424 Speaker 1: And it's kind of been said in the media that 277 00:12:42,504 --> 00:12:44,264 Speaker 1: hid one day off from Saltburn to kind of rush 278 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:46,464 Speaker 1: and see the baby and rush back. You know, you 279 00:12:46,504 --> 00:12:47,984 Speaker 1: feel in me a movie. I don't know what to say. 280 00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:49,624 Speaker 1: People are really shooting on him for that and it 281 00:12:49,704 --> 00:12:52,264 Speaker 1: was like, you just don't really know. Obviously, if a 282 00:12:52,304 --> 00:12:55,104 Speaker 1: woman wasn't around her newborn child, it would be much 283 00:12:55,144 --> 00:12:57,264 Speaker 1: more intense, but also like we don't know their relationship, 284 00:12:57,304 --> 00:13:00,344 Speaker 1: the shooting schedule, blah blah blah. That happened. So when 285 00:13:00,424 --> 00:13:04,064 Speaker 1: he really blew up after Saltburn and people became obsessed 286 00:13:04,064 --> 00:13:06,704 Speaker 1: with him and it came out, the idea was that 287 00:13:06,744 --> 00:13:10,304 Speaker 1: he had become so famous he had abandoned his girlfriend, 288 00:13:10,424 --> 00:13:13,944 Speaker 1: who I think is a dentist and orthopedic therapist. So 289 00:13:13,944 --> 00:13:18,104 Speaker 1: she's a real jobey, smart, smart, real job that's not 290 00:13:18,144 --> 00:13:20,944 Speaker 1: an actor or a podcaster, so that's nice for her. 291 00:13:23,224 --> 00:13:25,184 Speaker 1: So the idea was he become so famous and so 292 00:13:25,264 --> 00:13:27,024 Speaker 1: lusted after that he had left his wife a new, 293 00:13:27,064 --> 00:13:29,504 Speaker 1: warm baby, and gone and to enjoy this big, glitzy 294 00:13:29,544 --> 00:13:33,224 Speaker 1: Hollywood life and get like a sexier girlfriend in Sabrina Carpenter. 295 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:35,504 Speaker 1: And it was just kind of unfortunate for him that 296 00:13:35,504 --> 00:13:37,464 Speaker 1: that happened around the same time as a few other 297 00:13:37,504 --> 00:13:40,184 Speaker 1: Hollywood men were being accused of doing the same thing. 298 00:13:40,264 --> 00:13:42,784 Speaker 1: So he had Ethan Slater accused of leaving his wife 299 00:13:42,784 --> 00:13:44,984 Speaker 1: and baby for Ariana Grande. Once he blew up with 300 00:13:45,024 --> 00:13:49,304 Speaker 1: the franchise. And also Jeremy Allen White never remember that 301 00:13:49,384 --> 00:13:52,144 Speaker 1: name's full mate who once he bought with a bear, 302 00:13:52,504 --> 00:13:56,344 Speaker 1: was accused of leaving his wife, Alison Timlin I think 303 00:13:56,384 --> 00:13:58,704 Speaker 1: her name is, and two young really children as well, 304 00:13:58,704 --> 00:14:00,984 Speaker 1: two young children, yeah, to go off and live this 305 00:14:00,984 --> 00:14:03,544 Speaker 1: bigger movie star life and date like a sexy singer 306 00:14:03,664 --> 00:14:06,424 Speaker 1: Rose Lea. And so it was just unfortunate the three 307 00:14:06,424 --> 00:14:08,944 Speaker 1: of them happened in a short period. And then that really, 308 00:14:08,984 --> 00:14:12,584 Speaker 1: I mean unfortunate for them, for us, and also unfortunately 309 00:14:12,584 --> 00:14:14,184 Speaker 1: for all these women who are at home raising There's 310 00:14:14,224 --> 00:14:17,144 Speaker 1: three women here, We've got raising tiny little kids at home, 311 00:14:17,384 --> 00:14:19,304 Speaker 1: and the whole time they're doing that, they're having the 312 00:14:19,304 --> 00:14:21,584 Speaker 1: glare of people saying like, well, your husband left you 313 00:14:21,624 --> 00:14:23,984 Speaker 1: for a sexier woman at a better life in Hollywood. 314 00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:26,264 Speaker 1: And the reason that's blown up is that this weekend 315 00:14:26,544 --> 00:14:28,904 Speaker 1: people were looking at Allison's Instagram and some of the 316 00:14:28,944 --> 00:14:31,424 Speaker 1: comments that she had liked, and she had liked comments 317 00:14:31,424 --> 00:14:33,904 Speaker 1: of people saying like, mum's raising their kids won't deserve 318 00:14:33,984 --> 00:14:37,544 Speaker 1: everything more appreciation for mothers raising their kids by themselves. 319 00:14:37,624 --> 00:14:40,064 Speaker 1: You're my hero. You're gonna be your baby's hero. So 320 00:14:40,144 --> 00:14:43,224 Speaker 1: basically they're all saying, like, you're a single mum, and 321 00:14:43,264 --> 00:14:45,824 Speaker 1: we see what you're doing, and she is liking all 322 00:14:45,864 --> 00:14:47,464 Speaker 1: those comments, which has made headlines. 323 00:14:47,784 --> 00:14:50,824 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just so telling that it's not just 324 00:14:51,264 --> 00:14:55,224 Speaker 3: the mums who are going through this with their ex partners, 325 00:14:55,264 --> 00:14:59,064 Speaker 3: but the whole world sees it and knows, including the 326 00:14:59,104 --> 00:15:01,984 Speaker 3: women that they're currently dating. Like the lyrics in that 327 00:15:02,224 --> 00:15:05,704 Speaker 3: Please Please Please song is just so telling and using him, 328 00:15:06,144 --> 00:15:09,664 Speaker 3: like she's literally using her boyfriend and saying, do not 329 00:15:09,744 --> 00:15:12,264 Speaker 3: do me like how you did your ex. Because I 330 00:15:12,264 --> 00:15:14,584 Speaker 3: think the lyrics heartbreak is one thing, my ego is 331 00:15:14,584 --> 00:15:18,344 Speaker 3: another that is so true, especially when you're that celebrity status, 332 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:23,064 Speaker 3: Like there is a big separation between being heartbroken versus 333 00:15:23,224 --> 00:15:26,464 Speaker 3: like being heartbroken in the public eye, and everyone's seeing 334 00:15:26,464 --> 00:15:29,744 Speaker 3: that and interpreting that. And that's exactly what everyone's doing 335 00:15:29,864 --> 00:15:32,904 Speaker 3: to these men's ex partners, like we're all telling them 336 00:15:32,984 --> 00:15:36,024 Speaker 3: how they feel, like these women are so sad and 337 00:15:36,104 --> 00:15:39,504 Speaker 3: poor them. But I think what's really clever about his 338 00:15:39,544 --> 00:15:42,664 Speaker 3: ex partner is liking those comments but saying anything, because 339 00:15:42,664 --> 00:15:45,264 Speaker 3: she's pretty much confirming that what the lyrics in the 340 00:15:45,304 --> 00:15:47,184 Speaker 3: song are saying about him are true. 341 00:15:47,544 --> 00:15:49,944 Speaker 1: Exactly. And I just think what she's also warning him 342 00:15:49,944 --> 00:15:53,264 Speaker 1: about very publicly is what people are accusing Jennifer Lopez 343 00:15:53,304 --> 00:15:56,184 Speaker 1: of recently of releasing all this art and music and 344 00:15:56,264 --> 00:15:59,064 Speaker 1: video clips around a person, your relationship, and building that 345 00:15:59,144 --> 00:16:01,704 Speaker 1: up and having people so invested, and then if it 346 00:16:01,744 --> 00:16:05,504 Speaker 1: starts to crumble behind the scenes, it's a bigger talking 347 00:16:05,544 --> 00:16:09,024 Speaker 1: point and people ridicule you even more because you created 348 00:16:09,104 --> 00:16:11,424 Speaker 1: music and art around it. Sabrina's like she's just getting 349 00:16:11,464 --> 00:16:12,544 Speaker 1: ahead the story. 350 00:16:12,704 --> 00:16:14,744 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just like, what if this is going to 351 00:16:14,744 --> 00:16:17,024 Speaker 3: be one of her biggest songs and then they break 352 00:16:17,104 --> 00:16:18,624 Speaker 3: up and now she has to sing I think. 353 00:16:18,664 --> 00:16:20,544 Speaker 1: She's probably okay with that. I mean, we're reading into 354 00:16:20,544 --> 00:16:21,744 Speaker 1: these people we don't know, but. 355 00:16:21,704 --> 00:16:23,344 Speaker 3: I like that was how I would feel. 356 00:16:23,464 --> 00:16:25,864 Speaker 1: I hate that. But I think what she's also chasing, 357 00:16:25,944 --> 00:16:27,704 Speaker 1: I would say, and how she's building her career is 358 00:16:27,744 --> 00:16:30,424 Speaker 1: that real infamy around this relationship. Even if it's a 359 00:16:30,464 --> 00:16:32,544 Speaker 1: moment in time, it's still going to be seen as 360 00:16:32,584 --> 00:16:35,504 Speaker 1: this sexy, cool thing she did, because you know, it 361 00:16:35,544 --> 00:16:37,384 Speaker 1: was seen as a little bit dangerous and a little 362 00:16:37,384 --> 00:16:39,224 Speaker 1: bit riskay, and people were talking about her. And if 363 00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:40,744 Speaker 1: you're releasing a song that's what you want. 364 00:16:41,104 --> 00:16:43,064 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to this spill today. 365 00:16:43,104 --> 00:16:45,104 Speaker 3: If you love listening to us, you can always leave 366 00:16:45,184 --> 00:16:47,984 Speaker 3: us a five star rating or review on whichever podcast 367 00:16:47,984 --> 00:16:50,384 Speaker 3: app you're listening to us on. Also, you can share 368 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:53,344 Speaker 3: it with a friend. We love new people. 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