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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mea Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast. The Quickie question for the group when was

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Speaker 2: the last time you got your breast checked? It's Breast

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Speaker 2: cancer Awareness Month and after a quick survey of the

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Speaker 2: women in my life, they fall into three categories. It

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Speaker 2: turns out some of them don't qualify for a screening.

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Speaker 2: I'll explain more on that in a moment. Some are

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Speaker 2: up to date, but a large number of my extended

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Speaker 2: girl gang are eligible yet have never had one. They're scared,

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Speaker 2: unsure of the process, and have kind of buried their

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Speaker 2: heads in the sand about it all. So in the

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Speaker 2: spirit of taking charge of our health and well being, today,

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Speaker 2: the Quickie is off to the breast clinic to walk

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Speaker 2: through what happens during a breast screen and you're coming

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 3: Before we whip the kid off though.

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Speaker 2: Here's Tarlie Blackman with the latest from the Quickly newsroom

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Speaker 2: for Friday, October twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. President Vladimir Putin says Russia will never bow

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Speaker 1: to pressure from the United States or any foreign power,

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Speaker 1: warning of an overwhelming response to any military strikes deep

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Speaker 1: inside Russian territory. His comments follow US President Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: decision to impose new sanctions on Russia's two largest oil companies,

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Speaker 1: a major shift in Washington's approach to the war in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: The move pushed global oil prices up nearly five percent

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Speaker 1: and prompted India to consider cutting Russian imports. Putin said

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Speaker 1: the sanctions were unfriendly but would not significantly harm Russia's economy,

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Speaker 1: insisting the country's energy sector remain strong. He also warned

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Speaker 1: that any disruption to Russian oil exports would drive up

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Speaker 1: global fuel prices, including in the US. Trump has canceled

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Speaker 1: a planned summit with Putin, saying Russia is a paper tiger.

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Speaker 1: King Charles and Pope Leo have prayed together in the

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Speaker 1: Vatican Cystine Chapel, marking the first joint worship between an

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Speaker 1: English monarch and a Catholic pontiff since King Henry the

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Speaker 1: Eighth broke from Rome in fifteen thirty four. Latin chants

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Speaker 1: and English prayers filled the chapel, where Leo, the first

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Speaker 1: U S Pope, was elected six months ago, beneath Michaelangelo's

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Speaker 1: Fresco at the Last Judgment Charles, a Supreme Governor of

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Speaker 1: the Church of England, sat beside Leo, while Archbishop Stephen

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Speaker 1: Cottrell co led the service, with Royal choirs performing the

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Speaker 1: King and Queen Camilla on a state visit celebrating closer

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Speaker 1: ties between the Catholic Church and the Anglican Communion. Later,

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Speaker 1: Leo granted Charles the honorary title of Royal Comforter at

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Speaker 1: Rome's Basilica of Saint Paul outside the walls Buckingham Palace. Said.

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Speaker 1: Charles also bestowed two British honours on Leo, including Knight

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Speaker 1: Grand Cross of the Order of Bath. Rebel Wilson is

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Speaker 1: said to appear in court over allegations she defamed emerging

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Speaker 1: actor Charlotte mckinness, her co star in The deb the

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Speaker 1: musical that marked her directorial debut. Mckinnes's lodge proceedings last

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Speaker 1: night in the Federal court, claiming Wilson falsely accused her

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Speaker 1: on social media of changing her story about alleged inappropriate

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Speaker 1: conduct by a producer. Mckinnis denies the claims, saying false

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Speaker 1: accusations undermine real victims. Wilson reiterated her statements online, suggesting

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Speaker 1: mckinnis benefited professionally from the producer involved. The dispute follows

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Speaker 1: multiple lawsuits surrounding the Deab, which premiered at the Toronto

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Speaker 1: International Film Festival in twenty twenty four but remains unreleased.

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Speaker 1: AI Film. The movie's production company, has separately accused Wilson

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Speaker 1: in the New South Wales Supreme Court and the Superior

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Speaker 1: Court of California of damaging reputations and seeking credit for

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Speaker 1: work she did not do. Matilda's star Hailey Rassos says

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Speaker 1: she never imagined reaching one hundred appearances for Australia, having

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Speaker 1: once feared her career was over after breaking her back

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. The thirty one year old winger, who

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Speaker 1: had to learn to walk again before May, making a

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Speaker 1: remarkable return to the pitch just six months later. Now,

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Speaker 1: Rasso will become only the seventeenth woman to play one

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Speaker 1: hundred games for the Matilda's when they face Wales in

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Speaker 1: Since debuting at seventeen, Rasso has played two World Cups,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie. Next, what's it like to get a mammogram? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: So for disclosure, I wanted to call this segment tit trivia,

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Speaker 2: Did you know one in seven women in New South

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Speaker 2: Wales alone will develop breast cancer in their lifetime, but

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Speaker 2: there's an increased chance of survival. Women are often saddled

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Speaker 2: with the responsibility of everyone's health in their home, from

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Speaker 2: But we should all absolutely be looking after ourselves and

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Speaker 2: we know they're scary. The thought of flopping a boob

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Speaker 2: off putting, to say the least, So in an effort

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Speaker 2: mum and mere colleagues. Hayil, this might be my most

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Speaker 2: due for a breast screening? Or would you let Team

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Speaker 2: Quickie in on your appointment to record it? Thanks not

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Speaker 2: gonna lie. I that was very much expecting crickets, but

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Speaker 2: as tribute to our cause. Now, I did have to

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Speaker 2: mainly because it's not as effective in those women due

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Speaker 2: to their high breast density, and the majority of women

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Speaker 2: diagnosed with breast cancer are over fifty. Of course, there

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Speaker 2: So what's it actually like. Here's a little sample of

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Speaker 2: when we took our friend Georgie to the clinic. So

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Speaker 2: Georgie is currently getting ready to have her mammogram. This

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Speaker 2: a very large loud machine.

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Speaker 4: Now with this arm, do you think you can bring

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Speaker 4: to look to the wall that way? Fantastic. What I'm

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Speaker 4: going to adjust the height ever so slightly. You're okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna feel the plate touching your breast. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: So we're coming to where we need to be Are

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've just gotten back from the clinic. Georgie, thank

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Speaker 2: your relationship with your boobs before this mammogram.

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Speaker 3: I have a great relationship with my boobs. I absolutely

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Speaker 3: love my boobs. Admittedly they were a little bit nicer

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Speaker 3: They don't get me drinks in bars anymore, sadly, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Going like?

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Speaker 2: I put this call out to the MUMMEA staff. Amazingly,

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Speaker 2: I guess what made you want to say yes to this? Well?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I now know that because I'm in my forties,

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Speaker 3: I am due for one. I haven't had one. I

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Speaker 2: And so what were your thoughts or like expectations as

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Speaker 3: I was surprised that I was pretty nervous. I think

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Speaker 3: the thing I'd heard about mammograms is they can be

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Speaker 3: It was a lot less painful than perhaps mere.

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Speaker 2: And then during the process, obviously, if people want to

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Speaker 2: on with quickie Instagram, you can go over there and

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Speaker 3: I was lucky that it was so well explained to me,

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Speaker 3: I'm three colters the way through. This is fine. I'm

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Speaker 3: really glad that I had that education about what she

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Speaker 3: And it was over so quickly.

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Speaker 2: I was amazed at how quickly we were in and

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Speaker 3: What was that a couple of minutes. There's actually no

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Speaker 3: excuse to not go on your lunch break because the

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Speaker 3: breast greening clinics are everywhere we now know, and we

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Speaker 3: were in and out so fast, I could actually go

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Speaker 3: get lunch and then head back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you've done your first one when you do

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Speaker 2: back next on two years, okay, so let's get together

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Speaker 2: and do it again. And I'm just kidding closely. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't make you do it on camera again in two years,

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Speaker 2: but thank you for doing it with us and demystifying

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Speaker 2: the process a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's so important, and hey, it's so easy and not painful. Uncomfortable, sure,

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Speaker 3: but unbelievably important. Please don't put it off anyone, Please.

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Speaker 2: Dating a mammogram is only half the story. I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: there is homework involved, but listen up. It could save

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Speaker 2: your life one day. But those that it's under forty

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Speaker 2: while we'll be waiting to step up to the plate. Literally.

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Speaker 2: We can start self exams at home now, but before

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Speaker 2: you just go copying, I feel there is an art

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Speaker 2: to it. So just how do you perform a self

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Speaker 2: breast exam? I ask breast On College's nurse practitioner Jenny Gilchrist.

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Speaker 6: So women over the age of eighteen and men as

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Speaker 6: well should be starting to do self checks. It's important

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Speaker 6: to know that both men and women can get breast cancer.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're checking at home for breast cancer

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Speaker 2: What am I looking for? And am I standing there?

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Speaker 4: So now that you've done your mammogram, that's absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 4: The Cancer Institute has been new initiative out be a friend,

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Speaker 4: Tell a friend. So because you've prioritized your breast health

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for taking some time to feed your

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Speaker 2: more smart conversation all about women's health, Claire Murphy and

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