1 00:00:10,265 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:22,065 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Whoever said orange is 4 00:00:22,065 --> 00:00:24,305 Speaker 2: a new pink with seriously disturbed. 5 00:00:24,025 --> 00:00:26,385 Speaker 1: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 6 00:00:26,665 --> 00:00:28,025 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have. 7 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:28,425 Speaker 1: To do it. 8 00:00:28,505 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 4: You live for fashion. 9 00:00:31,425 --> 00:00:34,465 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 10 00:00:34,545 --> 00:00:37,305 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 11 00:00:37,625 --> 00:00:40,425 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell. In every week I chat to an. 12 00:00:40,265 --> 00:00:42,625 Speaker 2: Expert who helps us work out how to get more 13 00:00:42,705 --> 00:00:45,305 Speaker 2: out of the clothes we already own and tells us 14 00:00:45,385 --> 00:00:48,465 Speaker 2: exactly what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. 15 00:00:48,865 --> 00:00:50,185 Speaker 1: Now, there's something I have. 16 00:00:50,185 --> 00:00:53,225 Speaker 2: Wanted to cover on the podcast for a while because 17 00:00:53,345 --> 00:00:57,345 Speaker 2: it really irritates me. It's the fashion feud between gen 18 00:00:57,505 --> 00:01:01,745 Speaker 2: Z and Millennials. From socks to cross body bags and 19 00:01:01,785 --> 00:01:04,905 Speaker 2: everything in between. It seems these two generations throughout war 20 00:01:04,945 --> 00:01:07,665 Speaker 2: when it comes to what is quote unquote cool to wear. 21 00:01:08,345 --> 00:01:11,625 Speaker 2: So joining me again today is the delightful and insightful 22 00:01:11,705 --> 00:01:15,185 Speaker 2: Live James. She's our in house style with Brush. She's 23 00:01:15,225 --> 00:01:18,385 Speaker 2: a social media extraordinaire and Live was first on the 24 00:01:18,425 --> 00:01:21,305 Speaker 2: show when she taught us how to master Pinterest, which 25 00:01:21,585 --> 00:01:24,425 Speaker 2: honestly has been one of our most popular episodes yet. 26 00:01:24,825 --> 00:01:27,825 Speaker 2: She's young and cool and the perfect person to nat 27 00:01:27,865 --> 00:01:31,105 Speaker 2: out this issue and hopefully put the millennial versus gen 28 00:01:31,225 --> 00:01:34,945 Speaker 2: Z fashion war to bed Live. 29 00:01:35,025 --> 00:01:35,705 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 30 00:01:35,905 --> 00:01:37,385 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. 31 00:01:37,465 --> 00:01:38,185 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. 32 00:01:38,345 --> 00:01:40,625 Speaker 2: You were last on the show, on the Pinterest episode 33 00:01:40,625 --> 00:01:42,665 Speaker 2: which changed my life. But luckily I get to see 34 00:01:42,705 --> 00:01:45,385 Speaker 2: you every week, and you are young and fun and cool, 35 00:01:45,385 --> 00:01:47,345 Speaker 2: and that's why you're here. Before we get into the topic, 36 00:01:47,985 --> 00:01:50,705 Speaker 2: the two questions I asked returning guests, Yeah, what's your 37 00:01:50,745 --> 00:01:53,665 Speaker 2: biggest fashion splurge or impulse purchase? 38 00:01:53,945 --> 00:01:56,705 Speaker 5: Okay, So I like to be quite calculated about what 39 00:01:56,745 --> 00:02:00,425 Speaker 5: I buy, because I do like to buy quality pieces 40 00:02:00,505 --> 00:02:02,745 Speaker 5: that sometimes cost a bit of money and I have 41 00:02:02,785 --> 00:02:05,665 Speaker 5: to really think about it. But I did recently buy 42 00:02:05,665 --> 00:02:08,305 Speaker 5: Address and I didn't think about it. I probably thought 43 00:02:08,305 --> 00:02:10,025 Speaker 5: about it for ten minutes because it was love. 44 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:11,305 Speaker 4: It was just love. 45 00:02:11,545 --> 00:02:14,265 Speaker 5: And honestly, it's from a brand called up Press Studios, 46 00:02:14,265 --> 00:02:16,025 Speaker 5: which is Australian made. 47 00:02:15,985 --> 00:02:18,305 Speaker 1: Like our Prey, like with the s like the ski word. 48 00:02:18,545 --> 00:02:22,025 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeahki No okay. 49 00:02:21,665 --> 00:02:23,625 Speaker 4: No, it's actually more like Victorian. 50 00:02:23,905 --> 00:02:24,065 Speaker 2: Ah. 51 00:02:24,385 --> 00:02:26,505 Speaker 1: Well, last time you're on. We talked trends and there 52 00:02:26,585 --> 00:02:28,865 Speaker 1: was that we did weird Victorian. 53 00:02:28,385 --> 00:02:30,225 Speaker 4: Yeah, castle cor castle Core that. 54 00:02:30,385 --> 00:02:32,785 Speaker 5: I actually said that I wouldn't wear a drop waist. 55 00:02:33,505 --> 00:02:37,465 Speaker 5: And guess what this has. This brand went viral for 56 00:02:37,585 --> 00:02:39,025 Speaker 5: the Bubble Mini dress. 57 00:02:39,945 --> 00:02:41,825 Speaker 2: I thought that was witchery. Again, No, I don't, I'm 58 00:02:41,825 --> 00:02:43,945 Speaker 2: not anti. I just was there the first time, well 59 00:02:44,065 --> 00:02:46,065 Speaker 2: the first time for yes, yeah, exactly right. 60 00:02:46,185 --> 00:02:48,985 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that went viral because Haley Beebele wore it 61 00:02:49,665 --> 00:02:50,465 Speaker 5: and very cool. 62 00:02:50,545 --> 00:02:52,825 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very cool and very cool. 63 00:02:52,945 --> 00:02:53,265 Speaker 3: Yeah. 64 00:02:53,665 --> 00:02:56,425 Speaker 5: I was like, okay, so I've been watching them. The 65 00:02:56,465 --> 00:02:58,705 Speaker 5: Bubble Mini dress I found hard because I was like, 66 00:02:58,745 --> 00:03:00,025 Speaker 5: I can't wear that every day. 67 00:03:00,265 --> 00:03:01,745 Speaker 4: But this is a maxi. 68 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:06,265 Speaker 5: It's like a plaid kind of blue and pink pattern 69 00:03:06,505 --> 00:03:10,505 Speaker 5: heaven and it has an elastic top so things really 70 00:03:10,585 --> 00:03:13,305 Speaker 5: nicely like clings to you, but then it pushes out 71 00:03:13,545 --> 00:03:16,345 Speaker 5: from where them, so it has a little bit of 72 00:03:16,345 --> 00:03:18,825 Speaker 5: a dropped waist, so it kind of like does a 73 00:03:18,945 --> 00:03:22,305 Speaker 5: v oh yes, yes, shapes really nice and it's the 74 00:03:22,345 --> 00:03:24,945 Speaker 5: top like like less Slaves top is like a T 75 00:03:25,065 --> 00:03:28,985 Speaker 5: shirt and it's one hundred percent cotton. It was a 76 00:03:29,025 --> 00:03:32,225 Speaker 5: bit spendy. It was around four hundred dollars handmade though, 77 00:03:32,385 --> 00:03:34,905 Speaker 5: like it is like an but. 78 00:03:34,865 --> 00:03:37,345 Speaker 2: I really loved it, and you're gonna wear the shit 79 00:03:37,385 --> 00:03:37,785 Speaker 2: out of it. 80 00:03:37,905 --> 00:03:40,025 Speaker 4: I wore it to Easter. My mum loved it. 81 00:03:40,105 --> 00:03:43,105 Speaker 5: Okay, get some mum tick of approval and I can 82 00:03:43,145 --> 00:03:44,025 Speaker 5: wear it to work as well. 83 00:03:44,225 --> 00:03:47,265 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, all right, so you are quite considered. 84 00:03:47,545 --> 00:03:50,705 Speaker 2: I need to learn to not just to click and 85 00:03:50,745 --> 00:03:52,665 Speaker 2: not need my credit card. I mean, you wouldn't even 86 00:03:52,705 --> 00:03:53,985 Speaker 2: know what it's like to need to go and get 87 00:03:54,025 --> 00:03:57,345 Speaker 2: your credit card out of you. Do you have a 88 00:03:57,425 --> 00:03:59,785 Speaker 2: style music? If so, who and why? 89 00:03:59,945 --> 00:04:03,185 Speaker 5: I've got two automatically they spring to mine every time. 90 00:04:03,225 --> 00:04:07,185 Speaker 5: There's this one girl called Elsa Ray. She's on TikTok. 91 00:04:07,545 --> 00:04:10,585 Speaker 5: She's awesome. She's got around four two thousand followers. 92 00:04:10,585 --> 00:04:13,825 Speaker 4: She lives in Melbourne. Not too huge, no, not massive. 93 00:04:14,025 --> 00:04:18,865 Speaker 5: But she's a very cool. But she's not afraid to 94 00:04:19,025 --> 00:04:22,225 Speaker 5: mix patterns where they shouldn't be, and she does it 95 00:04:22,265 --> 00:04:24,825 Speaker 5: in a very nice way, and she does color in 96 00:04:24,825 --> 00:04:27,345 Speaker 5: a considered way, but it still feels fun. Okay, So 97 00:04:27,385 --> 00:04:30,345 Speaker 5: I always like, I'm always saving her videos because fun 98 00:04:30,385 --> 00:04:30,945 Speaker 5: with fashion. 99 00:04:31,065 --> 00:04:35,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool, but not like trying to be generic 100 00:04:35,705 --> 00:04:37,625 Speaker 2: cool girl cool, you're like quirky. 101 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:39,625 Speaker 1: Yes, I hope you take no. 102 00:04:39,705 --> 00:04:42,705 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think she does that really well. But 103 00:04:42,785 --> 00:04:44,545 Speaker 5: she still does it with pieces that you can get 104 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:45,705 Speaker 5: from like the iconic. 105 00:04:45,825 --> 00:04:47,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's mistainable. 106 00:04:47,465 --> 00:04:48,465 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. 107 00:04:48,545 --> 00:04:49,265 Speaker 1: Who's the other one? 108 00:04:51,265 --> 00:04:51,745 Speaker 3: Do you know what? 109 00:04:52,025 --> 00:04:55,905 Speaker 5: Literally I could literally put you into although I feel 110 00:04:55,945 --> 00:04:58,185 Speaker 5: like sometimes I wear things if you wore you'd be 111 00:04:58,265 --> 00:04:59,185 Speaker 5: like you would be. 112 00:04:59,225 --> 00:05:02,065 Speaker 1: Like, no way, no way. Who's the other one? 113 00:05:02,145 --> 00:05:05,385 Speaker 5: The other one is an og YouTuber from America. Her 114 00:05:05,465 --> 00:05:07,225 Speaker 5: name is Lexie Lombard and I. 115 00:05:07,145 --> 00:05:08,705 Speaker 1: Think like Eve and I've heard that name. 116 00:05:08,745 --> 00:05:11,025 Speaker 4: She's so cool. She's friend like Billy Eilish and stuff, like, 117 00:05:11,065 --> 00:05:14,265 Speaker 4: she's really cool. She's got say Billy idol. 118 00:05:16,505 --> 00:05:18,425 Speaker 1: This is the perfect episode from me. 119 00:05:19,185 --> 00:05:22,465 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, but you know, maybe a fan of 120 00:05:22,465 --> 00:05:26,385 Speaker 5: Billy Idol baby, So you know how, like obviously love Pinterest. 121 00:05:27,065 --> 00:05:29,945 Speaker 5: I'm subscribed to her Pinterest board and I have a 122 00:05:29,945 --> 00:05:32,945 Speaker 5: little widget on my phone home screen and it generates 123 00:05:33,025 --> 00:05:36,465 Speaker 5: new images every hour from my saved boards, which I 124 00:05:36,505 --> 00:05:38,145 Speaker 5: know might sound a little bit complicated. 125 00:05:38,345 --> 00:05:41,585 Speaker 2: I have that from my phone photos my kid as 126 00:05:41,585 --> 00:05:42,385 Speaker 2: a baby and stuff. 127 00:05:42,465 --> 00:05:43,785 Speaker 4: Yes, so it's exactly that. 128 00:05:43,825 --> 00:05:47,025 Speaker 5: But for your Pinterest boards, and every time a photo 129 00:05:47,065 --> 00:05:49,905 Speaker 5: from her board comes up, I click on it and 130 00:05:49,945 --> 00:05:51,665 Speaker 5: I'm like, I need that, and. 131 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:53,585 Speaker 2: She's just we're going back to the Do you have 132 00:05:53,625 --> 00:05:55,865 Speaker 2: to have saved the picture from Pinterest? No, it's just 133 00:05:55,985 --> 00:05:57,105 Speaker 2: accounts you follow. 134 00:05:57,425 --> 00:05:59,865 Speaker 4: Just account you follow or subscribe to. It's the best. 135 00:05:59,905 --> 00:06:03,905 Speaker 5: It's like, so you're surrounding yourself with constant inspiration, Like, yeah, inspiration. 136 00:06:04,305 --> 00:06:06,705 Speaker 1: You live in the future. I love it. Oh my god, 137 00:06:06,745 --> 00:06:08,545 Speaker 1: thank god you're here live. I love you. 138 00:06:08,625 --> 00:06:11,985 Speaker 2: We talk a lot along. Yeah, we are twenty years apart. 139 00:06:12,185 --> 00:06:14,665 Speaker 2: We are almost I aged myself. Yet you're twenty five. 140 00:06:14,705 --> 00:06:17,465 Speaker 2: I'm forty three, so pretty much two decades between us. 141 00:06:17,825 --> 00:06:21,785 Speaker 2: And so that makes you, technically, gen Z me are millennial, 142 00:06:21,905 --> 00:06:26,625 Speaker 2: technically an elder millennial. And I want to ask you. 143 00:06:26,665 --> 00:06:28,585 Speaker 2: I know you can't speak for your entire generation, but 144 00:06:28,665 --> 00:06:31,305 Speaker 2: how do you feel about all the content and the 145 00:06:31,385 --> 00:06:34,185 Speaker 2: articles and the things we say? That? Says gen Z says, 146 00:06:34,185 --> 00:06:36,505 Speaker 2: they can tell someone's a millennial when they wear dot 147 00:06:36,585 --> 00:06:39,465 Speaker 2: dot dot like that kind of content that feudes these 148 00:06:39,505 --> 00:06:42,825 Speaker 2: two generations, mostly women, kind of against each other. 149 00:06:42,905 --> 00:06:46,465 Speaker 4: It really does and look like it clicks, like it works. 150 00:06:46,665 --> 00:06:48,465 Speaker 1: We've done like we know here at work. 151 00:06:48,465 --> 00:06:53,425 Speaker 5: Absolutely, but personally, I think it's really tired. And honestly, 152 00:06:53,505 --> 00:06:55,705 Speaker 5: when I look at the things that my like gen 153 00:06:55,825 --> 00:07:01,945 Speaker 5: Z is obsessed with right now, ballet flats, side parts, peplum. 154 00:07:00,905 --> 00:07:03,505 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but like, where are all those coming from? 155 00:07:03,665 --> 00:07:04,105 Speaker 1: Us? 156 00:07:04,225 --> 00:07:04,425 Speaker 4: Yes? 157 00:07:04,585 --> 00:07:07,785 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Okay, And we're not I don't think we're 158 00:07:07,825 --> 00:07:10,265 Speaker 5: afraid to admit that. Like we all know that, and 159 00:07:10,305 --> 00:07:12,905 Speaker 5: we all understand that fashion has a cycle. 160 00:07:13,065 --> 00:07:14,185 Speaker 4: It always comes back. 161 00:07:14,545 --> 00:07:18,225 Speaker 2: Yes, but it's I guess for you guys, we're generalizing here, 162 00:07:18,265 --> 00:07:19,945 Speaker 2: but you know, to make the point, it's kind of 163 00:07:19,985 --> 00:07:22,465 Speaker 2: like your first time with that trend. Yes, And I 164 00:07:22,545 --> 00:07:25,345 Speaker 2: remember twenty years ago thinking I'm so cool and what 165 00:07:25,385 --> 00:07:28,265 Speaker 2: my mum wears is so daggy or whatever, but she's like, Babe, 166 00:07:28,265 --> 00:07:30,345 Speaker 2: I wore that twenty or thirty years ago. 167 00:07:30,545 --> 00:07:32,625 Speaker 5: Yes, And I think, like a really good example when 168 00:07:32,625 --> 00:07:35,425 Speaker 5: I was thinking about it was there was an interview 169 00:07:35,425 --> 00:07:40,025 Speaker 5: with Apple Martin, Gwyneth's daughter, and Gwyneth has this amazing 170 00:07:40,145 --> 00:07:42,625 Speaker 5: archive closet that she's done a tour of and they 171 00:07:42,665 --> 00:07:45,505 Speaker 5: asked Apple, I can't remember what publication it was, but 172 00:07:45,505 --> 00:07:46,745 Speaker 5: they were like, do you go in there? 173 00:07:47,065 --> 00:07:49,905 Speaker 4: And her eyes literally lit up like my eyes would, 174 00:07:49,905 --> 00:07:52,265 Speaker 4: and she goes, absolutely, it's my favorite place. 175 00:07:52,385 --> 00:07:53,345 Speaker 1: Oh cute, And I. 176 00:07:53,265 --> 00:07:56,865 Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, like we understand that maybe there's a 177 00:07:56,865 --> 00:07:59,865 Speaker 5: few things that we don't love, like you don't know, 178 00:08:00,025 --> 00:08:01,145 Speaker 5: shoe socks. 179 00:08:01,425 --> 00:08:03,425 Speaker 1: We'll get into that. We'll get into. 180 00:08:03,345 --> 00:08:06,145 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna budge on that I care. But you 181 00:08:06,185 --> 00:08:07,705 Speaker 4: guys walked so we could run. 182 00:08:07,865 --> 00:08:12,305 Speaker 5: Yes, bad, we're taking things and we're rewriting it. But 183 00:08:12,585 --> 00:08:14,985 Speaker 5: I also think a big difference is that we're growing 184 00:08:15,065 --> 00:08:18,465 Speaker 5: up with like Pinterest and TikTok, where things happened really fast. 185 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:21,505 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I bought Dolly or Cleo or Cosmo. I 186 00:08:21,545 --> 00:08:23,945 Speaker 2: saved up so once you know, Cosmo and Cleo came 187 00:08:23,985 --> 00:08:25,545 Speaker 2: out once a month and we would have got that 188 00:08:25,665 --> 00:08:27,905 Speaker 2: you had a certain amount of pictures, Yeah, exactly, and 189 00:08:27,905 --> 00:08:30,025 Speaker 2: then you saw an Adam on the TV or a movie. 190 00:08:30,105 --> 00:08:30,945 Speaker 1: God, I sound old. 191 00:08:30,985 --> 00:08:35,025 Speaker 2: So the amount of content and inspiration that we all 192 00:08:35,065 --> 00:08:36,905 Speaker 2: have access to now, but we didn't really grow up 193 00:08:36,905 --> 00:08:39,465 Speaker 2: in our formative years of deciding what style was. And 194 00:08:39,505 --> 00:08:42,185 Speaker 2: there was so few stores and there wasn't online shopping. 195 00:08:42,265 --> 00:08:43,705 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a big part of. 196 00:08:43,705 --> 00:08:46,105 Speaker 5: It too, absolutely, and I think that's probably the biggest 197 00:08:46,105 --> 00:08:50,105 Speaker 5: part because we are programmed to know, Okay, tomorrow, I'm 198 00:08:50,105 --> 00:08:52,265 Speaker 5: going to like shift this one thing to be different. 199 00:08:52,785 --> 00:08:55,865 Speaker 5: You guys were always taught to have like a capsual wardrobe, yes, 200 00:08:55,905 --> 00:08:57,105 Speaker 5: what fits your body this way? 201 00:08:57,265 --> 00:09:00,145 Speaker 2: All that cur went shopping like maybe got a special 202 00:09:00,185 --> 00:09:03,145 Speaker 2: treat before Christmas, dur in summer, and then you bought 203 00:09:03,145 --> 00:09:03,665 Speaker 2: some winter. 204 00:09:03,505 --> 00:09:04,625 Speaker 1: Stuff because it was cold. 205 00:09:04,945 --> 00:09:05,625 Speaker 4: Yeah. 206 00:09:05,665 --> 00:09:07,265 Speaker 1: Wow, I sound like I'm from the great. 207 00:09:07,065 --> 00:09:09,025 Speaker 5: No, But like truly, I think that that is a 208 00:09:09,105 --> 00:09:11,745 Speaker 5: huge difference. It's like we go fast and you guys 209 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:12,865 Speaker 5: are more probably. 210 00:09:12,545 --> 00:09:24,905 Speaker 2: Considered all right, So gen Z in general, Yeah, how 211 00:09:24,905 --> 00:09:26,865 Speaker 2: do you think they feel about millennials or even gen X? 212 00:09:26,865 --> 00:09:28,425 Speaker 2: Because you know, Holly and me are both here a 213 00:09:28,505 --> 00:09:30,945 Speaker 2: gen X and I think are very stylish. But in general, 214 00:09:31,105 --> 00:09:33,945 Speaker 2: do you think older generations that are two decades three 215 00:09:33,985 --> 00:09:38,185 Speaker 2: decades older, uncol old lady too different to what your 216 00:09:38,225 --> 00:09:39,105 Speaker 2: friends wear. 217 00:09:39,545 --> 00:09:41,265 Speaker 4: I think it's like very personal. 218 00:09:41,505 --> 00:09:44,065 Speaker 5: I was on Instagram a few days ago and Kate 219 00:09:44,105 --> 00:09:47,145 Speaker 5: Middleton popped up and she was wearing a Baker boy hat, 220 00:09:47,465 --> 00:09:48,265 Speaker 5: you know those like. 221 00:09:48,345 --> 00:09:49,505 Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't know what one is? 222 00:09:49,705 --> 00:09:53,905 Speaker 4: And I, yeah, I didn't, you go. I was like, 223 00:09:53,945 --> 00:09:54,385 Speaker 4: what's this? 224 00:09:55,105 --> 00:09:57,985 Speaker 5: And I then got on the phone to my mum 225 00:09:58,225 --> 00:10:02,465 Speaker 5: and she's gen X yeah, and she was like I 226 00:10:02,505 --> 00:10:04,025 Speaker 5: had one of those hats and I was like, I 227 00:10:04,065 --> 00:10:05,825 Speaker 5: actually really like it. Yeah, it made me want to 228 00:10:05,865 --> 00:10:08,465 Speaker 5: buy it. And I think Vogue called it a style 229 00:10:08,745 --> 00:10:11,305 Speaker 5: revival or something. They didn't call it old, they didn't 230 00:10:11,305 --> 00:10:14,145 Speaker 5: call it chugi or you know, just lame or anything. 231 00:10:14,145 --> 00:10:15,305 Speaker 4: They were like, it's coming back. 232 00:10:15,825 --> 00:10:20,225 Speaker 5: So I think that I don't think it's about age, 233 00:10:20,305 --> 00:10:22,345 Speaker 5: Like I really don't. Yeah. I think it's like there's 234 00:10:22,385 --> 00:10:24,985 Speaker 5: these weird mental blocks and I see it in the office. 235 00:10:24,985 --> 00:10:26,345 Speaker 5: I see it with people that I talk to that 236 00:10:26,385 --> 00:10:28,945 Speaker 5: they're like I just couldn't wear that, yes, And I'm like, 237 00:10:29,065 --> 00:10:31,905 Speaker 5: but you could, yeah, you really could. Or I couldn't 238 00:10:31,905 --> 00:10:34,745 Speaker 5: shop there or couldn't wear that because of my age. Yeah, yeah, 239 00:10:34,745 --> 00:10:37,065 Speaker 5: And that's a mental barrier I've had to overcome and 240 00:10:37,785 --> 00:10:39,305 Speaker 5: you know, don't really think about now. But it's a 241 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:41,945 Speaker 5: lot of the listeners here as well. Yeah, absolutely, And 242 00:10:42,025 --> 00:10:46,585 Speaker 5: I think I it's hard because obviously there's things that 243 00:10:46,625 --> 00:10:49,265 Speaker 5: you're like, I hope my mum rocked up to like 244 00:10:49,385 --> 00:10:52,025 Speaker 5: family dinner and she was wearing like a Von Dutch 245 00:10:52,105 --> 00:10:54,505 Speaker 5: cap and like jaorts. 246 00:10:54,705 --> 00:10:56,785 Speaker 4: I'd be like, okay, like something's wrong. 247 00:10:56,745 --> 00:10:59,385 Speaker 2: Totally, And how old you mum? Do you mammy asking 248 00:10:59,465 --> 00:11:01,705 Speaker 2: fifty two? Yeah, see she's young, that's me or in 249 00:11:01,745 --> 00:11:04,665 Speaker 2: Holly's age. Yeah, if your mom did Jaughts with like 250 00:11:04,745 --> 00:11:07,905 Speaker 2: a really cool shirt. Yeah, yeah, Like it's more about 251 00:11:07,905 --> 00:11:10,785 Speaker 2: the item and how it's styled across generations, right, rather 252 00:11:10,825 --> 00:11:11,745 Speaker 2: than an entire look. 253 00:11:11,865 --> 00:11:14,145 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like rewriting it and doing it in your 254 00:11:14,145 --> 00:11:17,385 Speaker 5: own way and making sure that it actually still feels 255 00:11:17,425 --> 00:11:19,985 Speaker 5: like you. So I guess that's probably what would freak 256 00:11:19,985 --> 00:11:21,425 Speaker 5: me out. If M'm more at the way that I 257 00:11:21,545 --> 00:11:24,745 Speaker 5: wore it, I'd be like, what's going on? But maybe 258 00:11:24,785 --> 00:11:27,705 Speaker 5: she could like, you know, maybe should go red Jawts 259 00:11:27,705 --> 00:11:28,905 Speaker 5: and I'd be like, oh, yeah. 260 00:11:28,705 --> 00:11:31,705 Speaker 2: That's cool, danim jaw with a nice shirt. 261 00:11:31,985 --> 00:11:34,305 Speaker 5: Actually that's no, No, that's true. I could actually see 262 00:11:34,505 --> 00:11:35,825 Speaker 5: like you would fill that. 263 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:37,225 Speaker 1: Yeah. 264 00:11:37,265 --> 00:11:40,505 Speaker 2: So, as a gen Z and as someone that professionally 265 00:11:40,505 --> 00:11:43,345 Speaker 2: gets paid to run social media, where do you get 266 00:11:43,345 --> 00:11:46,825 Speaker 2: your stylinspo from? Where do you see cool brands, cool trends, 267 00:11:46,865 --> 00:11:52,505 Speaker 2: cool looks, cool pieces? Because for me, I'm still mostly Instagram. Yeah, 268 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:55,625 Speaker 2: but that was a big departure for me from magazines 269 00:11:55,665 --> 00:11:57,385 Speaker 2: and then websites. 270 00:11:56,945 --> 00:12:01,985 Speaker 5: Yos absolutely mainly TikTok like that. When I really come 271 00:12:02,025 --> 00:12:03,585 Speaker 5: down to it and I'm like, okay, where do I 272 00:12:03,625 --> 00:12:05,825 Speaker 5: see something and then want to buy it, It is 273 00:12:05,945 --> 00:12:08,905 Speaker 5: always TikTok, And I think it has kind of taken 274 00:12:08,985 --> 00:12:11,505 Speaker 5: over what would have been magazines for you guys. 275 00:12:11,585 --> 00:12:13,425 Speaker 1: Yes, and even Instagram. 276 00:12:13,465 --> 00:12:16,785 Speaker 2: I feel like my generation's kind of slowly maybe being 277 00:12:16,825 --> 00:12:18,865 Speaker 2: forced to go on to TikTok. But we love Instagram, 278 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:21,785 Speaker 2: but your generation tends to go to TikTok first for that. 279 00:12:22,185 --> 00:12:24,105 Speaker 5: And I use it as a search engine just as 280 00:12:24,185 --> 00:12:25,865 Speaker 5: much as I'll go to Google and be like, Okay, 281 00:12:25,905 --> 00:12:29,865 Speaker 5: I want to find a white sneaker I will look 282 00:12:29,905 --> 00:12:32,545 Speaker 5: that up in TikTok first. What so I can see 283 00:12:32,545 --> 00:12:35,185 Speaker 5: someone talking about it, and I can see them putting 284 00:12:35,185 --> 00:12:37,625 Speaker 5: it on, and I can see them being honest about it. 285 00:12:37,985 --> 00:12:39,865 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also I can see how they style it, 286 00:12:40,145 --> 00:12:40,505 Speaker 4: and that. 287 00:12:40,505 --> 00:12:42,425 Speaker 5: Way, I won't just get the same white sneaker all 288 00:12:42,425 --> 00:12:44,265 Speaker 5: over and over again, and I won't just get that 289 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:45,545 Speaker 5: like stock image of it. 290 00:12:45,425 --> 00:12:47,225 Speaker 4: On a white background, Like I'm like, what can I 291 00:12:47,265 --> 00:12:48,825 Speaker 4: actually do with that? Nothing? 292 00:12:49,105 --> 00:12:51,745 Speaker 5: So then I'll watch this video see how they style it. 293 00:12:51,785 --> 00:12:55,425 Speaker 5: If I like the whole outfit screenshot. Asos, which I 294 00:12:55,465 --> 00:12:58,025 Speaker 5: really love, has this feature where you can upload a 295 00:12:58,065 --> 00:13:01,905 Speaker 5: screenshotted voto and you can put it into their search 296 00:13:01,945 --> 00:13:03,425 Speaker 5: engine and they'll just pop out. 297 00:13:03,305 --> 00:13:04,825 Speaker 1: All the similar similar part. 298 00:13:04,825 --> 00:13:06,865 Speaker 2: I've seen what the little button on the website and 299 00:13:06,865 --> 00:13:08,425 Speaker 2: I was like, that looks like the future. It is 300 00:13:08,465 --> 00:13:12,105 Speaker 2: actually the future a reverse Google image. Yeah, that's good too, 301 00:13:12,145 --> 00:13:12,985 Speaker 2: but it's not as good. 302 00:13:13,265 --> 00:13:15,385 Speaker 4: It's not as good. It's not as good. 303 00:13:15,465 --> 00:13:18,945 Speaker 2: Would you say you follow fashion trends? I mean, I 304 00:13:19,025 --> 00:13:21,105 Speaker 2: get to blame my job and I think that I'm 305 00:13:21,145 --> 00:13:24,265 Speaker 2: original and stylish, but I really do follow a lot 306 00:13:24,265 --> 00:13:26,945 Speaker 2: of fashion trends each season, and I'm happy to admit it. 307 00:13:26,985 --> 00:13:28,785 Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a sheep. I'm kind of a 308 00:13:28,825 --> 00:13:31,905 Speaker 2: mid sheep. I'm not a leader, but I'm not a follower. 309 00:13:32,025 --> 00:13:34,905 Speaker 2: Do you think you follow trends? And I feel like 310 00:13:34,945 --> 00:13:37,945 Speaker 2: your generation don't as much, or maybe we're just seeing 311 00:13:37,985 --> 00:13:40,465 Speaker 2: a whole different world of trends that aren't Yeah, because 312 00:13:40,505 --> 00:13:41,705 Speaker 2: I'm not looking away your trends are. 313 00:13:41,785 --> 00:13:43,825 Speaker 5: I think it's hard because, like you could probably find 314 00:13:43,825 --> 00:13:46,425 Speaker 5: someone that dresses exactly the same way as you now 315 00:13:46,905 --> 00:13:50,265 Speaker 5: in probably like five minutes so everything kind of feels 316 00:13:50,265 --> 00:13:52,705 Speaker 5: like you. Yeah, Like I really struggle with that, I 317 00:13:52,745 --> 00:13:55,065 Speaker 5: think like half the time because it is very important 318 00:13:55,105 --> 00:13:58,265 Speaker 5: to me that I feel like I'm dressing as myself 319 00:13:58,345 --> 00:14:01,945 Speaker 5: and like in an individual way. But there's like memes 320 00:14:01,945 --> 00:14:03,585 Speaker 5: at the moment that are like, have I ever had 321 00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:06,625 Speaker 5: an original thought? Because you see people doing the same 322 00:14:06,665 --> 00:14:08,425 Speaker 5: thing as you, even if you thought you were the 323 00:14:08,425 --> 00:14:10,305 Speaker 5: first person in the world to do it. There's like 324 00:14:10,385 --> 00:14:13,185 Speaker 5: three sneakers that are on my wish list right now. 325 00:14:13,265 --> 00:14:14,265 Speaker 1: Well, tell me about the place. 326 00:14:14,385 --> 00:14:16,945 Speaker 5: Bad Bunny has a new collab with Adda Das. It's 327 00:14:16,985 --> 00:14:18,425 Speaker 5: like a ballerina shoe. 328 00:14:18,505 --> 00:14:20,625 Speaker 1: I have seen those. I thought Bad Bunny was the 329 00:14:20,625 --> 00:14:21,265 Speaker 1: brand to start with. 330 00:14:21,705 --> 00:14:24,425 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm a singer. He dated Kendall Jennifer 331 00:14:24,465 --> 00:14:24,865 Speaker 4: a little bit. 332 00:14:24,905 --> 00:14:27,385 Speaker 1: I never heard of him. Okay, what's the next one? 333 00:14:27,505 --> 00:14:30,105 Speaker 5: The other one is Essex has done this collab with 334 00:14:30,385 --> 00:14:34,985 Speaker 5: a brand called MFG Story MFG and it's Gingham and 335 00:14:35,185 --> 00:14:37,625 Speaker 5: so the whole thing is in a Gingham pattern. It's 336 00:14:37,665 --> 00:14:39,425 Speaker 5: really cute, looks like a little picnic. 337 00:14:39,865 --> 00:14:40,785 Speaker 4: Another one which. 338 00:14:40,585 --> 00:14:43,065 Speaker 5: Will be interesting for you, and I actually think you 339 00:14:43,105 --> 00:14:44,465 Speaker 5: could look really good in these. 340 00:14:44,705 --> 00:14:46,065 Speaker 4: Do you know the brand Meryll. 341 00:14:46,985 --> 00:14:48,105 Speaker 1: No, isn't it ugly? 342 00:14:48,385 --> 00:14:48,625 Speaker 4: Yeah? 343 00:14:48,825 --> 00:14:51,385 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Is that like a raincoat brand or something. 344 00:14:51,905 --> 00:14:53,625 Speaker 4: It's like they're like a hiking brand. 345 00:14:53,665 --> 00:14:55,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, like solid like outdoor. 346 00:14:55,305 --> 00:14:56,345 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. 347 00:14:56,425 --> 00:15:00,545 Speaker 5: But they're having a bit of a rebrand and I 348 00:15:00,585 --> 00:15:03,505 Speaker 5: would die to see you in these shoes. They're doing 349 00:15:03,505 --> 00:15:06,065 Speaker 5: this like rebrand and they're cool now. Like I was 350 00:15:06,145 --> 00:15:07,625 Speaker 5: just in Tokyo, which. 351 00:15:07,465 --> 00:15:08,545 Speaker 4: You were was amazing. 352 00:15:08,625 --> 00:15:10,865 Speaker 1: All other topic. We need to a whole other topic. 353 00:15:11,385 --> 00:15:15,465 Speaker 5: But they had a storefront in Shibuyah, and I was like, Okay, 354 00:15:15,585 --> 00:15:18,465 Speaker 5: I'm clocking this, like you guys are on the rise. Okay, 355 00:15:18,505 --> 00:15:21,385 Speaker 5: because if it's in Tokyo and if they have a storefront, 356 00:15:21,505 --> 00:15:22,385 Speaker 5: something's going on. 357 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:23,985 Speaker 1: Okay, But what did the shoe look like? 358 00:15:24,065 --> 00:15:27,145 Speaker 4: They look like dad shoes, but there's one dad sneaker. 359 00:15:27,385 --> 00:15:30,625 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they can get really hiki okay, like you 360 00:15:30,705 --> 00:15:33,345 Speaker 5: really are going for a trek. But there's one specific 361 00:15:33,425 --> 00:15:38,105 Speaker 5: pair that is a leather woven slip on kind of 362 00:15:38,185 --> 00:15:40,105 Speaker 5: slide but it's closed toe. 363 00:15:40,385 --> 00:15:44,225 Speaker 1: Okay. It sounds okay and not in croc territory? Is it? 364 00:15:44,345 --> 00:15:45,425 Speaker 1: Does it feel krocky? 365 00:15:45,505 --> 00:15:49,665 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say no, oh god, but it's just cool. 366 00:15:50,185 --> 00:15:52,265 Speaker 2: See That's where I think it's so clever of you. 367 00:15:52,305 --> 00:15:54,265 Speaker 2: Maybe because of your generation or your job that you've 368 00:15:54,265 --> 00:15:57,065 Speaker 2: seen that I would have walked past and gone ugly shoe, ugly, shop, 369 00:15:57,185 --> 00:16:00,145 Speaker 2: keep going. Maybe that's why I keep shopping in the 370 00:16:00,185 --> 00:16:00,625 Speaker 2: same way. 371 00:16:00,665 --> 00:16:02,865 Speaker 4: We most think. We have this thing where it's like, 372 00:16:02,905 --> 00:16:06,345 Speaker 4: if it's ugly, we'll like it. The uglier the better. 373 00:16:06,745 --> 00:16:10,345 Speaker 5: I do feel like that you can't be wearing a 374 00:16:10,385 --> 00:16:13,385 Speaker 5: shoe like that with an outfit that doesn't feel delicate 375 00:16:13,825 --> 00:16:16,185 Speaker 5: or a balance. Yeah, you've got a balance, you know, 376 00:16:16,265 --> 00:16:18,825 Speaker 5: the wrong shoe theory. Yes, So you put your outfit 377 00:16:18,945 --> 00:16:20,785 Speaker 5: on and then you go, what shoe would I never 378 00:16:20,785 --> 00:16:21,225 Speaker 5: wear with this? 379 00:16:21,305 --> 00:16:23,105 Speaker 4: And you put that shoe on. Yeah, and that's a 380 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:25,105 Speaker 4: good outfit. It kind of stems into that. 381 00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:27,145 Speaker 1: I like that your generation knows that. Harry. 382 00:16:27,345 --> 00:16:38,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna play a game. 383 00:16:38,505 --> 00:16:40,145 Speaker 2: We both have to answer. I have a go thought 384 00:16:40,145 --> 00:16:43,545 Speaker 2: about mine. Yeah, twenty years apart. We both answer what 385 00:16:43,625 --> 00:16:47,665 Speaker 2: we'd likely to wear to these following occasions. So clothes, huse, accessories, 386 00:16:47,705 --> 00:16:50,305 Speaker 2: all of it. Okay, the first scenario, you're going to 387 00:16:50,425 --> 00:16:52,945 Speaker 2: and I'm going to it's dinner with friends, so male female, 388 00:16:52,985 --> 00:16:54,945 Speaker 2: and we're at a quite a fancy restaurant, and then 389 00:16:54,945 --> 00:16:56,985 Speaker 2: we're going to a bar after to people have your 390 00:16:56,985 --> 00:16:57,625 Speaker 2: head to go to a bar? 391 00:16:57,745 --> 00:16:59,665 Speaker 1: Yes, oh good, okay, go to a bar. What are 392 00:16:59,665 --> 00:17:00,025 Speaker 1: you wearing? 393 00:17:00,425 --> 00:17:01,385 Speaker 4: I will probably go. 394 00:17:01,465 --> 00:17:03,545 Speaker 5: You know, I am a sucker for the trend at 395 00:17:03,545 --> 00:17:04,745 Speaker 5: the moment with the sheer skirt. 396 00:17:04,825 --> 00:17:06,105 Speaker 4: Yes, I love the sheer skirt. 397 00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:08,825 Speaker 2: I both call me onto my favorite run from Verge 398 00:17:08,825 --> 00:17:10,545 Speaker 2: Girl that you said you were gonna buy, and I've 399 00:17:10,545 --> 00:17:11,065 Speaker 2: bought a first. 400 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:12,945 Speaker 1: If we don't hang out. 401 00:17:13,705 --> 00:17:16,025 Speaker 5: I'm still yet together, but I'd probably go let's say 402 00:17:16,025 --> 00:17:19,025 Speaker 5: that skirt. I'd go that skirt and just an oversized 403 00:17:19,025 --> 00:17:21,465 Speaker 5: T shirt. We've got a few situations that you're going 404 00:17:21,545 --> 00:17:24,585 Speaker 5: to give me. I could wear maybe all of my 405 00:17:24,665 --> 00:17:27,785 Speaker 5: suggestions to any of them, which is interesting. 406 00:17:27,385 --> 00:17:29,745 Speaker 2: But we're not anti this. We're at a fancy restaurant, 407 00:17:29,945 --> 00:17:31,745 Speaker 2: So what shoe were you doing? 408 00:17:31,785 --> 00:17:34,025 Speaker 5: I would do a kitten heel. Okay, I love a 409 00:17:34,105 --> 00:17:36,185 Speaker 5: kitten heel. One of my favorite kittenhels at the moment 410 00:17:36,265 --> 00:17:38,025 Speaker 5: is from Zara. It's got a leopard print on it 411 00:17:38,065 --> 00:17:41,265 Speaker 5: with a little bow. Looks very ninety and then a 412 00:17:41,345 --> 00:17:42,745 Speaker 5: bit of patent clashing there. 413 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:44,585 Speaker 4: Hatch would tickle my brain. 414 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:47,905 Speaker 2: And the skirt is quite dressy, So the T shirt's 415 00:17:47,985 --> 00:17:49,385 Speaker 2: okay for the fanciness. 416 00:17:49,385 --> 00:17:52,345 Speaker 5: And I would do like a pretty statement necklace and 417 00:17:52,385 --> 00:17:53,105 Speaker 5: gold hoops. 418 00:17:53,345 --> 00:17:54,785 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm vibing that. 419 00:17:54,905 --> 00:17:57,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would wear a sheer skirt too, because 420 00:17:57,665 --> 00:18:01,545 Speaker 2: I skied, you know, a maxi skirt or lacey sheery. 421 00:18:01,745 --> 00:18:03,385 Speaker 2: But I don't think i'd do a tea to a 422 00:18:03,385 --> 00:18:05,545 Speaker 2: fancy restaurant I've been loving. 423 00:18:05,705 --> 00:18:06,905 Speaker 1: It's not a singlet. 424 00:18:06,505 --> 00:18:08,705 Speaker 2: Top, but it's a sleeveless sort of lower neck, but 425 00:18:08,825 --> 00:18:11,745 Speaker 2: long enough to cover the bum and the front. No, 426 00:18:11,945 --> 00:18:14,305 Speaker 2: actually think i've seen you wear so that not everyone's 427 00:18:14,305 --> 00:18:15,105 Speaker 2: seeing my undies. 428 00:18:15,345 --> 00:18:15,545 Speaker 1: Yep. 429 00:18:15,985 --> 00:18:18,265 Speaker 2: I'd probably do a high heel because I still have 430 00:18:18,425 --> 00:18:22,145 Speaker 2: that hangover from where we fancy restaurant means high heel. 431 00:18:22,305 --> 00:18:25,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, your generation doesn't have. We don't. And probably a blazer, 432 00:18:25,465 --> 00:18:28,305 Speaker 1: nice oversized. Yes, all right, you're going to brunch with 433 00:18:28,345 --> 00:18:29,145 Speaker 1: your girl group. 434 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:31,265 Speaker 4: Yes, I would do a. 435 00:18:31,305 --> 00:18:35,025 Speaker 5: Cute little like a mini dress and then knee high boots. 436 00:18:35,145 --> 00:18:38,865 Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, but not healed like we like the 437 00:18:38,945 --> 00:18:44,185 Speaker 5: flat knee high or I would do a coored okay, yeah, 438 00:18:44,625 --> 00:18:48,225 Speaker 5: so like double denim something like that. Sneak like I 439 00:18:48,225 --> 00:18:50,225 Speaker 5: wouldn't do a kitten heel. 440 00:18:50,345 --> 00:18:52,785 Speaker 2: Okay, no, right, no, I wouldn't do a sneaker with 441 00:18:52,825 --> 00:18:53,585 Speaker 2: the ministress. 442 00:18:54,305 --> 00:18:56,545 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and your socks because you loves socks. 443 00:18:56,625 --> 00:19:01,145 Speaker 5: Yeah, snick always ankle length socks always, probably a poper color. 444 00:19:01,865 --> 00:19:02,185 Speaker 1: Okay. 445 00:19:03,025 --> 00:19:05,225 Speaker 2: I'm going to wear my high waisted barrel leg jeans, 446 00:19:05,265 --> 00:19:07,865 Speaker 2: of which I have seven hundred and fifty pairs. I 447 00:19:08,025 --> 00:19:09,585 Speaker 2: try and wear sandals for as long as they can 448 00:19:09,665 --> 00:19:11,465 Speaker 2: because I hate winter shoes. But if it's cold, I 449 00:19:11,625 --> 00:19:14,305 Speaker 2: do a loafer, Okay. I don't really do a lot 450 00:19:14,305 --> 00:19:17,425 Speaker 2: of trainers or sneakers. And I'm gonna do a T shirt, 451 00:19:17,465 --> 00:19:19,545 Speaker 2: probably a plain T shirt like I've got on today 452 00:19:19,545 --> 00:19:22,305 Speaker 2: with a belt, or a T shirt with a respectable 453 00:19:22,385 --> 00:19:25,105 Speaker 2: logo like an anine being or something that says I'm 454 00:19:25,145 --> 00:19:26,945 Speaker 2: a bit fancy, but it's. 455 00:19:26,825 --> 00:19:29,785 Speaker 1: Not like chill Louis Bitton. Yeah. Nice, that's me. 456 00:19:30,025 --> 00:19:30,465 Speaker 4: I like that. 457 00:19:30,705 --> 00:19:32,985 Speaker 2: So you're going to a work related event, I guess 458 00:19:32,985 --> 00:19:36,745 Speaker 2: in our industry, so creative. You're not going to the ballet. 459 00:19:36,785 --> 00:19:38,745 Speaker 2: Maybe you are, but what would you wear with the 460 00:19:38,785 --> 00:19:39,505 Speaker 2: work stuff? 461 00:19:39,625 --> 00:19:43,985 Speaker 5: I would probably go with the suit, but a colored suit, 462 00:19:44,945 --> 00:19:47,465 Speaker 5: and then I'd do a graphic tea under it, oh coo, 463 00:19:47,705 --> 00:19:51,185 Speaker 5: proribly with an image see yes, a bit of like. 464 00:19:51,345 --> 00:19:53,545 Speaker 2: You can see something popping out. Yeah, I'm vibing that 465 00:19:53,585 --> 00:19:55,145 Speaker 2: and that's very MEA yeah. 466 00:19:55,105 --> 00:19:57,065 Speaker 5: Like a Meryl Street like can you imagine you've got 467 00:19:57,105 --> 00:19:59,585 Speaker 5: like a matching suit on? And then Meryl Streep is 468 00:19:59,625 --> 00:20:00,905 Speaker 5: like just on your shirt. 469 00:20:00,985 --> 00:20:01,945 Speaker 1: And what's out footwear? 470 00:20:01,985 --> 00:20:03,945 Speaker 5: For this work event, I would probably do a little 471 00:20:04,025 --> 00:20:06,025 Speaker 5: kitten hill as well. Okay, good, just to like, you know, 472 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:08,705 Speaker 5: that's work for me. I do still go to a 473 00:20:08,745 --> 00:20:11,745 Speaker 5: lot of work events. I am generally a low kitten here, 474 00:20:12,105 --> 00:20:14,785 Speaker 5: maybe even a loafer if it's not that dressy. I 475 00:20:14,825 --> 00:20:17,905 Speaker 5: don't believe in shoe string straps or anything too thin 476 00:20:18,145 --> 00:20:20,785 Speaker 5: for a shoulder for anything work related. But again that's 477 00:20:20,785 --> 00:20:24,505 Speaker 5: a hangover from my old days. Or if I do, 478 00:20:24,545 --> 00:20:27,025 Speaker 5: everything else has to be very covered. So I would 479 00:20:27,065 --> 00:20:30,025 Speaker 5: probably do like a pant, like a nice wide lenk pant, 480 00:20:30,065 --> 00:20:31,145 Speaker 5: and probably a shirt. 481 00:20:31,745 --> 00:20:33,705 Speaker 1: That's very simple and very simple. What I could I 482 00:20:33,705 --> 00:20:35,265 Speaker 1: guess I could be in a lawyer's office. 483 00:20:35,425 --> 00:20:39,665 Speaker 2: Live James, thank you for representing your wonderful generation who 484 00:20:40,185 --> 00:20:42,785 Speaker 2: can run because we walked, And I love that we're 485 00:20:42,785 --> 00:20:46,105 Speaker 2: trying to put to rest the generational war fashion because yeah, fun, 486 00:20:46,385 --> 00:20:46,985 Speaker 2: yes it's. 487 00:20:46,825 --> 00:20:48,465 Speaker 1: Close and we can form. 488 00:20:48,505 --> 00:20:50,145 Speaker 4: Richard absolutely, thank you so much. 489 00:20:50,065 --> 00:20:52,425 Speaker 2: For having me, thank you for joining me, thank you 490 00:20:52,505 --> 00:20:54,705 Speaker 2: for listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't forget to 491 00:20:54,745 --> 00:20:56,825 Speaker 2: sign up to the matching newsletter. There's a link in 492 00:20:56,865 --> 00:20:59,505 Speaker 2: the show notes and it's free. See you next week. 493 00:21:00,025 --> 00:21:03,185 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production 494 00:21:03,265 --> 00:21:03,985 Speaker 2: by Lou Hill.