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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily Podcast for

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Speaker 2: Your Face.

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Speaker 1: I am Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCarran. Guess what, Kelly what?

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Speaker 2: It's the twenty fifth of November and well the twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth of Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, so there's one month left till Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That is very exciting.

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Speaker 2: Now Black Friday is this Friday finally, because like we've

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Speaker 2: been talking.

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Speaker 1: About it forever and it's also just like the adsugh.

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Speaker 2: So make sure you've got your wish list ready. You

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Speaker 2: might like some of the products we recommend today. So, Kelly,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: All right? So on Mondays, as always, we answer your

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Speaker 1: questions and later on in the episode, we have got

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Speaker 1: a question about how to fix your foundation that's not

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Speaker 1: sitting right, But first we need to talk about skin cycling.

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Speaker 1: We do. I couldn't help, but wonder you ask me anything?

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Speaker 2: You ask any questions?

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Speaker 1: Debra has asked, Hi, I love the podcast so much.

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Speaker 1: I have a question about skin cycling. Can you tell

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Speaker 1: me with the weekly routine, where do you use your led,

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Speaker 1: mask and needling? Thank you, Debra.

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Speaker 2: Great question because I guess we don't really talk about

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Speaker 2: devices or you know, DIY stuff at the home besides

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Speaker 2: products normally when we're talking skin cycling, So if you're

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Speaker 2: not across at skin cycling is more about sort of

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not new, but that's what we're calling it.

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Speaker 2: It's looking at your routine in a week or maybe

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Speaker 2: a fortnight and what you do on different nights. So

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Speaker 2: you might do retinol, hydration, mask, chemical exfoliant, and you

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Speaker 2: kind of make sure that over the week it's doing

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Speaker 2: the right thing for your skin. But yes, where do

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Speaker 2: we fit these things in? I'm going to start with needling.

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Speaker 2: I've done a backflip on DIA needling about gosh, pre

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Speaker 2: COVID and maybe lockdown. I was a fan of those germs.

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Speaker 1: I've also done a big backflip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just not going to recommend needling at home because.

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Speaker 1: You can do too much damage, and I also think

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Speaker 2: And also I think since then it's become much more

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Speaker 2: but it's kind of in terms of results, in terms

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Speaker 2: so let's just let the experts do that. If you

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Speaker 2: do needling once a week on an evening, and then

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Speaker 2: after the needling, you could do your LED because LED's healing.

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Speaker 2: With regards to LED, you can do that every night,

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Speaker 2: lay on your bed or whatever, whack on your LED mask.

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Speaker 2: You can have done your hydration step if you want.

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Speaker 2: That's why I just do it on bear skins. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise there's no point owning one because it's just a

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Speaker 2: I go through cycles, or I'll do it three times

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's how we feel about that. Now, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Well, next up, we have an anonymous question that we

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Speaker 1: found in the Facebook group. You know when, and I

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Speaker 1: totally relate when you foundation just starts separating and looking

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Speaker 2: I physically fix this for my best friend the other day,

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Speaker 2: so I'm ready to ant.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we had this question come through in

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Speaker 1: the Facebook group by annoying every time I put foundation on,

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Speaker 1: it just won't sit on my nose properly. And I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing due to my pause. It is so annoying. Does

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Speaker 1: anyone else have this problem? And any tips or tricks

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Speaker 2: Totally, We've got lots of tips. How did you fix

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Speaker 2: your friends? So Tigan my best friend, a business partner,

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Speaker 2: and then she's like, help, my nose looks slaky. My

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Speaker 2: foundation's gone with it, And I was like, what have

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Speaker 2: recommend some that we used, but there's plenty you could do.

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Speaker 2: So firstly, yes, it might be that you've gone too

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Speaker 2: could just mean that you need a good old exfoliation.

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Speaker 2: You say, pause. Maybe it's sebaceous filaments. Maybe it's just

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Speaker 2: with the benefit cleanser which will really help run the nose.

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Speaker 2: It's the benefit the poor professional unblocked cleansing oil. So

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Speaker 2: it just looks very clear. So you could start with that.

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Speaker 2: Then Teagan had these things at home because she is

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Speaker 2: a sucker for an Instagram ad. She had these turmeric

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Speaker 2: and citrus exfoliating pads that she got off the internet.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, what else have you gotten in

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Speaker 2: terms of like chemical exfoliance. It's going to be mild.

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Speaker 2: Kojic acid pads Brightening blah blah blah, thirty nine ninety

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Speaker 2: so you could use that. Another thing that I would

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Speaker 2: Medicaid press and Glow. It's like a very gentle chemical

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Speaker 2: exfoliant and I just kind of wipe it over my nose.

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Speaker 2: If I'm doing it right before makeup.

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Speaker 2: all else fails and you've got a microfiber cloth, just

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Speaker 2: to hydrate before you do your makeup on tea? Can

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Speaker 2: I use the Summer Friday's Face missed because she had

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Speaker 2: hydrate enough for me. I use the Charlotte Tilbury serum

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Speaker 2: because Charlotte Tilbury's skincare is meent to go on to makeup,

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Speaker 2: Rudolph nose correct, So it might be that a primer

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Speaker 2: one by Face Theory. It's called the Face Theory Silicon

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Speaker 2: Free Smoothing Primer, and that's thirty bucks. It's gonna last

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Speaker 2: you a long time. It's thirty meals. So it's you

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Speaker 2: do not need much. No, And I just literally like

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Speaker 2: kind of need to give your nose a mini facial.

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Speaker 2: Okay in a way, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well, I read this and I actually thought,

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Speaker 1: because I saw you say that you think she's going

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Speaker 1: too much with the exfoliation, and I was like, why

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Speaker 1: the actives meet with the actives. I actually think she's

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Speaker 1: not using enough. That could be well, so it's either

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Speaker 1: all Basically, I think that the Paul's choice bha essence.

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Speaker 1: So we've talked about that before. It is so good

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Speaker 1: at smoothing out your paws and getting rid of the

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Speaker 1: sebaceous filaments when it just it's not a blackhead, but

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Speaker 1: it's just like a mucky looking paw. Really good for

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Speaker 1: black heads and white heads as well.

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Speaker 2: Ha's got a little bit deeper. AHAs are kind of

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Speaker 2: a little bit and they don't really clear it out.

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Speaker 1: They're a little bit more intense. Yeah, so don't overuse it, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but a couple of times per week, I would just

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Speaker 1: use a little bit on your snout and the area

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Speaker 1: where you can see the makeup's going a little bit funny, agreed,

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Speaker 1: But always make sure that you've washed it off before

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Speaker 1: you put makeup on, Like make sure you're cleansing your skins,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you put it on and you've gone shit, which

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Speaker 1: has happened with Teagan. So I've kind of just given

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Speaker 2: Picks, what.

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Speaker 1: You makeup hacks.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk feet. The other day I told everyone about

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Speaker 1: I'm just on a Have you been talking to my husband?

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Speaker 2: Maybe likes feet too?

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Speaker 1: He made four dollars before I made him close it down.

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Speaker 2: This is great? And it is. So she uses a

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do this on my pits sometimes I do too,

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Speaker 2: A good little massage. That's absolutely gonna work, and then

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Speaker 2: tried this hack on an episode of Tried and Tested.

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Speaker 2: She was a shame to her sandals. She tried it

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Speaker 2: and she said it transformed her crusty little hoofs as

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Speaker 3: I almost don't want to show you the photo because

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Speaker 2: All right, man, we've known each other for five years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and please don't judge me. This is I'm just

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Speaker 3: so crusty, it's cracked. Literally, but I'm doing so much,

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Speaker 2: So have a listened to that. She gives a full

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Speaker 2: blow by blow up all about her feet, Kelly, So

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to that. We have linked in

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm so uncomfortable about the idea of touching my foot.

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Speaker 2: It's your own.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Do you go for pedicures?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Do you get your feet massaged?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well next time you go.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with someone else touching my foot.

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to touch my own.

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Speaker 2: That is so strange. I put something on my feet

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Speaker 2: every night when again, oh my god, like either magnesium

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's weird. But you will touch your hoof excuse

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Speaker 1: me feet, you'll trotter in the hamshoes, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: what's your fabulous tip?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 2: She's not shaving.

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Speaker 1: It's all vibrating, vibratory, like a vibrator, very aggressive one well,

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Speaker 2: I got the purple they're ten dollars. Or they've even

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Speaker 2: But just don't listen to me where she says I

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Speaker 2: You definitely never said that to anyone. Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: You don't need to spend much money. You can get

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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, that's all we have time for

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Speaker 2: this week. Thank you so much for listening to you, beauty.

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Speaker 2: Oh and before we go, I'm incredibly excited for tomorrow's

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