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Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Cash Rewards.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I was lost, and I thought

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Speaker 2: just keep going because you're going to realize that you're

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Speaker 2: keep working at it. People think if you're passionate about

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Speaker 2: something and you make a job or a career around it,

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Speaker 2: that you never work a day in your life. I

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Speaker 2: think it's bullshit. You work every day of your life,

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Speaker 2: but you still enjoy it and it's a passion for it.

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Speaker 2: And the results that you're getting by reaching these people

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Speaker 2: or whatever it is that you're doing, that's what pulls

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Speaker 2: why you're doing this, why did you start doing this,

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Speaker 2: why do you want to keep doing it? And then

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the c's the YA Podcast Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is the platforms to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly, the best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yea. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: matcha Maiden and matcha Milk bar CZA is a series

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Speaker 1: of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring

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Speaker 1: the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's our second episode back and the first one I

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Speaker 1: recorded for this year, and I can already say, like

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Speaker 1: I've said many times before, that making this show has

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Speaker 1: helped me so much immensely that if none of you listened,

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Speaker 1: it'd still be so worthwhile. And that's something I found

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Speaker 1: so liberating about podcasting not being as visibly measured as

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Speaker 1: social media. You just make the content that you find

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Speaker 1: really valuable, and the engagement is a bonus rather than

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Speaker 1: reverse engineering what you think will go well, which of

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Speaker 1: course can be tempting to do. Except for our guest

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Speaker 1: this week, who is one of my favorite people on

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Speaker 1: the internet because she resists that temptation mine and the

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Speaker 1: favorite of fourteen million other people in her community, and

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Speaker 1: for very good reason. If you didn't look further into it,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps because of the way the landscape has evolved

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Speaker 1: since she started out back on blogspot in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: Mind you, you might assume Emily Skuy's great success was

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Speaker 1: overnight or accidental, but you would be terribly mistaken, purely

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Speaker 1: from the way she has navigated her still ongoing postpartum

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Speaker 1: journey with her second child, but also in the way

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Speaker 1: she approaches everything she does. Her refreshing approach to authenticity, balance,

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Speaker 1: been channeled into a brand new postpartum program that you'll

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Speaker 1: deeper into her story reveals the decades of challenge, grit,

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Speaker 1: younger years growing up in commission housing and severe bulling

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Speaker 1: more about her resourcefulness, endearing self awareness, and delightful self

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Speaker 1: also happens to be the co founder of James Cosmetics,

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Speaker 1: her as much as I did. Lovely Emily, Welcome to Cca.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Sarah, thanks for having me. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. This is my first recording of the

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Speaker 1: It's just like a first day.

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Speaker 2: It's like speed dating, sitting across from each other.

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Speaker 1: I've actually always wanted to set up a speed dating event,

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Speaker 1: So before we kick off, I start every episode with

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love that about you, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: You know, we all want to see you go through

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Speaker 1: And I think you've really made a name for yourself

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Speaker 1: This is amazing and so lovely that you do have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I'm very similar, And I think

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Speaker 1: let's start with your childhood. Tell us about young Emily.

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Speaker 1: I know you were actually quite insecure as a child,

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Speaker 2: don't really fit any of it. So I thought, all right,

434
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll go and study arts. I did art,

435
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: and then I went and did actually study fitness when

436
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: I was eighteen or nineteen, and then I did beauty

437
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: therapy because I loved beauty as well. So I did

438
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 2: multiple all these different things, but it was always something

439
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: that was kind of creative or to do with fitness.

440
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: And then it all makes sense now because now I'm

441
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: using everything that I sort of used back then, even

442
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: though it was sort of little pieces like fragments. Now

443
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 2: it all comes together and it makes sense. So I

444
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 2: can take photos, I can edit I I've used to

445
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: make my own website. I used to design things like,

446
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: I've done everything myself. I even take my own photos.

447
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Do you because of that? Yeah? Most of them? Aaron might,

448
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: but yeah, most of them. I set up on a

449
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: time because I used to do photography too, and I

450
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: used to take photos of people and do the hair

451
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 2: and makeup and editing and everything. I had an agency

452
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: and modeling agency and talent agency years ago, so I

453
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: sort of dabbled in everything. But all of that taught

454
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: me something that I use now, which I think is

455
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: so amazing and I think, wow, like, isn't it incredible?

456
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Speaker 2: If I go back to being a kid, I had

457
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: no idea. I was lost and I thought I don't

458
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Speaker 2: fit anything. I never fit into groups at school either.

459
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: I was always like an outcast and I felt weird.

460
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Speaker 2: Now this is where I'm meant to be, and it's

461
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: such an amazing feeling. And if I could tell myself

462
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: back then anything, I would say, hold on, like just

463
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 2: keep going because you're going to realize that you're going

464
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: to be where you're meant to be, but you just

465
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Speaker 2: don't know it yet. You're just going to keep keep going,

466
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Speaker 2: keep working at it. It's just it's a mine. It's

467
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: mind blowing to me. And people that went to school

468
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Speaker 2: with me are like, what like ones that I felt

469
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: that I run into the much, but they're like, what

470
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Speaker 2: your Emily's done this? I used to skip and I

471
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: had ninety something days off a year. WHOA one of

472
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: the years it was ninety something days off because I

473
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: hated it. I was bullied. I just didn't I didn't

474
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: like it. I just it wasn't for me. Oh my,

475
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: yet I still went on to do you know what

476
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Speaker 2: I was meant to do?

477
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Speaker 1: This makes me so stay in school, Stay in school,

478
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Speaker 1: stay in school, to discomfort. But this is why I

479
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: mean that exact thing is why I'm so passionate about

480
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: this kind of storytelling and what this show is all about.

481
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: To remind everyone to just hold on because you're not

482
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: actually meant to know what all those ingredients mean right away.

483
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: You're just not supposed to. And it's funny that you

484
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: called it lots of fragments. In every single episode, I

485
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: repeatedly say that You're Yay is like a jigsaw puzzle,

486
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: and every single thing you do either gives you new

487
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: pieces or gets you to throw out old pieces that aren't.

488
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Speaker 2: You're amazing.

489
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: So it's just like I'm like, oh my god, she

490
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: speaks my language.

491
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it does. It does sort of all make sense,

492
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: and we don't need to have all the answers right now.

493
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Speaker 2: You sort of have to go. So I'm going to

494
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: give this up and just go put it out to

495
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: the universe and obviously still work hard towards something, but

496
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: don't have to be tied to having to know everything

497
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: you know because you don't know what's going to happen tomorrow,

498
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: and tomorrow's not guaranteed.

499
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

500
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, absolutely.

501
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's relevant. Now. It's not just from

502
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: childhood to school to your first career. It's in every

503
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: new chapter. We're all expected to go through so many

504
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: different chapters in our life because it moves so fast

505
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: these days. So you're probably going to have this feeling

506
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: of uncertainty and then refinding yourself multiple times. And that's

507
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: totally fine, yeap. So take us back to the start

508
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Speaker 1: of what would be sort of the now chapter. And

509
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Speaker 1: I loved going back to read that you started on

510
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: blogspot in twenty eleven. You know, do you want to

511
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: know what that is? Just? And again, this is the

512
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: bit that most people forget they see you now and

513
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: don't remember that you started ten years ago on a

514
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: platform that barely exists anymore. So what were your plans there,

515
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: what were your wildest dreams? Where did you think it

516
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: would go? And what's each new version since then been?

517
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: Like I think a pivotal moment for me was when

518
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: I started exercising, eating healthy and making changes with my

519
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: mental health and practicing gratitude and changing having perspective and

520
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: realizing that I have it good, all these things that

521
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: I changed. That was when I went, yeah, I need

522
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: to do something in this and moving your body and

523
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: nourishing your body with healthy food is the first step,

524
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: and my programs are all about that as well as

525
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: mental health. It's really holistic and it sort of touches

526
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 2: on everything, which I think is so important. I've even

527
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: got pregnancy programs, post natal programs, everything now. But I

528
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: want I want it to be placed that has everything,

529
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: and that's why I started it. That's why I became

530
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: so passionate about doing what I do now and having

531
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Speaker 2: programs for women and women and reaching as many people

532
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: as possible because I want people to feel as good

533
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: as I do. And I don't mean I feel just

534
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: on top of the world every single day. I have

535
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: shitty days, but for the most part, I feel amazing.

536
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: And back when I started sharing things, it was blog

537
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: spot in like twenty and ten or something, so I

538
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: was eleven or something. I'm losing count, but I started

539
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: posting things. Yeah, I started posting things that I was

540
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: doing and the training I was doing and what I

541
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: was eating, and it was if I look at it now,

542
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: it's terrible and unhealthy because I started competing and I

543
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: was doing those comps, were up on stage, flexing and

544
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: all those things, and it's far from healthy, but it

545
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: sort of started. That's when I started my journey and

546
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: I learned and I kept learning, and I do keep

547
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: learning now. I never give up. But it was weird

548
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: back then because no one really knew. Like as I

549
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: was saying before, no one really knew much about lifting

550
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: weights and the benefits for women. So that's why I

551
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: guess I realized that's what's what I was getting to.

552
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: I get so off track because I get excited. But

553
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: at the moment too, when I decided this is what

554
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: I want to do and this is what I'm meant

555
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: to do, that was it. It changed me and it was

556
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: my mental health that was the main thing. I felt

557
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: so much better and I thought, this is what I

558
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: have to do, and I'm still passed it. And that's

559
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: what I hold on to. And not that people think

560
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: if you're passionate about something and you make a job

561
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: or a career around it, that you never work a

562
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: day in your life. I think it's bullshit. You work

563
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: every day of your life, but you still enjoy it,

564
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: and it's a passion for it, and the results that

565
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: you're getting by reaching these people or whatever it is

566
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: that you're doing, that's what pulls you through. And that's

567
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: why you've got to focus on why you're doing this,

568
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Why did you start doing this? Why do you want

569
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: to keep doing it? And then work your ass off totally, Totally.

570
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: It's tough work and I'd love that, you know, you

571
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: kept bringing it back to the why, like why you're

572
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: doing this? And one thing I've learned recently is that

573
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: you know the why. It stays consistent. It might change

574
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: a little bit, but your why is what keeps you going.

575
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: But the how is meant to change. So the blog

576
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: spot that you started with was the how at the beginning, yes,

577
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: whereas now it's a fully blown up Yeah, it's got

578
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: all these many different amazing programs. It's something that you know,

579
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: I did a little survey at the end of the year,

580
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: and something people wanted to hear more about is, you know,

581
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: we do often have people on the show who have

582
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: incredibly big, successful businesses now, but I'm trying to remind

583
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: them that you didn't start with that the beginning is

584
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: about any of that So how do you start? What

585
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: is the first? You know, when it's not the app,

586
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: what is the first? How you don't start like that?

587
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: You know all the businesses that we have around us

588
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: and that we interact with. You know, if you tried

589
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: to start what you have now, you would have been

590
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: so overwhelmed that maybe you wouldn't have ever begun. So

591
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: how did you go into each stage? When did you

592
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: know it was going to be a program? And then

593
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: when did you decide, you know, I'll move into an app?

594
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: How did all that infrastructure kind of logistically happen.

595
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people these days do it

596
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: backwards and they go, oh, I want to I want

597
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: to have a fitness app or whatever it is, and

598
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: they go, okay, I'm going to work on creating the app.

599
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Who are you going to sell it to or who

600
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: you're going to get to sign up? You need to

601
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: have some kind of database or a following, and even

602
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: a following doesn't mean it's going to translate into sales.

603
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: So you need to know you need to be first.

604
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: You haven't idea of what you want. Maybe that's the

605
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: ultimate goal, but you've got to break it up. It's

606
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: like fitness goals, break it up in smaller achievable goals

607
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: that you can actually achieve along the way, and celebrate

608
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: each step that you take. But the first step for

609
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: me was creating a I guess followers and having engagement

610
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: and people that trusted me. So I started sharing a

611
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: lot about myself. I started sharing a lot of free things.

612
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: So people think about making money straight away, and there's

613
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with wanting to make money and making money

614
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: from passion, but you've got to give out a lot

615
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: for free. You can't just expect people just gone by.

616
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: So I used to do a workout video every single

617
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: day I can. I've put out thousands of free workout

618
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: videos and content for people so that there was no

619
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: barrier to getting fit, so that it didn't cost them

620
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: a cent. And this is before I had even thought

621
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: about an app. Really, I had a website and I

622
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: had a PDF that you download with the program, and

623
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: then some videos. You'd have to log onto the website

624
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: and watch the videos, which is still really cool, and

625
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: we're going back like years, seven years or something now.

626
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: So I built an audience and they seem to like

627
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: what I was about and what I was doing, and

628
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: there was space a huge space for fitness. Back then,

629
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Speaker 2: it wasn't as competitive anywhere near as competitive as it

630
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: is now. It's very saturated, so it is a lot

631
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: harder nowadays. I sort of started at the right time,

632
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: but I built built that audience first and the trust first.

633
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Then I created the PDF on the website, and then

634
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: I started employing people, and I made a lot of mistakes.

635
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: I hired people who were and went into business of

636
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: people who were terrible and did the wrong thing by

637
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: me and were just awful people and went against everything

638
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: that I'm about. But I learned my lesson and I

639
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: will never make that the same mistake again. So it's

640
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: really a blessing in disguise. At the time it was horrible,

641
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: but you know, you come out of it and you go, yeah,

642
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad that happened now, I can see it from

643
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: a mile away in other people. But you've got to

644
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: then when you build your team, you need to know

645
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: that you can trust them, and you don't always know.

646
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: You've got to take risks, but have eyes on everything

647
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: is thing that I always say to people. You've got

648
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: to make sure that you're watching everything that everyone's doing,

649
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: and don't just assume they're doing what they say they're doing,

650
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: and don't assume that if they're qualified in whatever it is,

651
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: marketing or whatever, that they actually will do good marketing

652
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: for you. So learn as much as you can about

653
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: every part of the business. Do as much as you

654
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 2: can as possible at the start yourself, and then when

655
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: you reach a point where you need to have those

656
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: people and high people, then do so. But always watch

657
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: what they're doing and don't just sit back and go, oh, yeah,

658
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't need to know about this because the expert's

659
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: doing it. You need to have knowledge and then keep researching.

660
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: So especially social media. Obviously I have social media businesses,

661
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: a couple of them, and it's always changing. As we

662
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: all know, people barely ever see your post anymore, and

663
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: trying to get engagement and growing is a lot harder

664
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: these days. So you've got to make sure that you

665
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: keep it engaging, keep your content engaging, and keep getting attention.

666
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: So there's one thing to want to spread something to

667
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: people that that it is something that you think they'll

668
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: get something good from and posting, you know, posting a

669
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: photo of a flower or a tree and then riding

670
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: something that's really meaningful. It's impactful, it's just not going

671
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: to get the attention. You've got to have thumb stoppers.

672
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: You've got to post things that will get people's attention

673
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: and make sure that they go, oh, what is this

674
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: and they read or the first line is like another

675
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: thumb stopper and something that they go, what is this?

676
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: You know, and they kept reading. But you've got to

677
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: think of these things and that if you want an

678
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 2: online business, that's just what you've got to think of.

679
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: It's not good enough just to have a good product

680
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: and you think, oh, everyone could benefit from this, and

681
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: this product's amazing, how are you going to get people

682
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 2: to trust you and want and have an interest in it?

683
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: So building up from see you get off track, building

684
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: up from the PDF. Then I started an app and

685
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: it was a free app again because I'm actually not

686
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: good at the whole money thing. I've never been focused

687
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: on it, like I've never like it's good to have money.

688
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, but I've I've never been driven

689
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: by money. I think everything else is what drives me

690
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: and how it impacts people. I actually didn't even know

691
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: what my businesses were making day today. My partner would

692
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: look at that and I just didn't care, and I

693
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: also didn't want to know because I don't want it

694
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: to take me away from what I'm doing and the

695
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: reason why I'm doing it. It sort of distracts me.

696
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 2: So we started the free app, and I wanted it

697
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: to be free so that people again had no barriers

698
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: for entry to fitness, and it was daily workouts, so

699
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: every day they'd get a free workout. And then it

700
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: was costing so much, like I'm talking hundreds of thousands

701
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: of a month to keep it going, and it was

702
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: just making no business sense. Like that's where I really

703
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: struggle with it. So luckily I've got partners that know

704
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: what they're doing with that sort of stuff, and they're like,

705
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: am you can't keep doing this sort of stuff, like

706
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: it makes me no sense at all. So then I

707
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: started my app, and I wanted it to be all

708
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: song and dance. I wanted to have everything. I wanted

709
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: it to go, from daily workouts just the substandard program,

710
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: to pregnancy to post pregnancy to it. It's got start

711
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: Strong Beginner's one, then it's got ABS to Core Challenges,

712
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: Booty Challenge, it's got everything that you can imagine. The

713
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: post nat to one actually just came out yesterday. No,

714
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: not yesterday, I launched it yet. I spoke about yesterday

715
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: that it'll be out very soon and actually in the app,

716
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: but we're just constantly adding new things. Are's meditations, there's yoga.

717
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm allowed to say. This

718
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: is yoga and like, oh, breath work, and there's so

719
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: much in it that again is not just about the

720
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: physical and getting fit, but it's about the mind as well.

721
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: So at the moment as well, I don't know when

722
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: this is going out, but we've got a free trial

723
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: that's a month free trial on the app if anyone's

724
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: interested in trialing it out for nothing for the first

725
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: month and seeing if you like it. There's so much

726
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: in it. Obviously, it's got food as well, customizable meal

727
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: plans that you can pick and choose what you want,

728
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: shopping lists, and you can make it for the family

729
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: and choose how many people you want to make it for.

730
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: It's literally got everything, and I'm so proud of it

731
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: because it's come a long way from the peace and that.

732
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: So the Post Pregnancy Program launches on feb the first.

733
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: I just had to write a little note to me

734
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 2: because my brain's.

735
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Like who can keep up?

736
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: But fed the first Yeah, oh my god, and it's

737
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: really good.

738
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: I will definitely include links in the show notes. I

739
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: feel like there are a lot of people and a

740
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: lot of CZA mums who will benefit.

741
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, also, I think this is really important. I

742
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: actually filmed it when I was postnatal, so I was

743
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: at the stage. It's got three stages, and I filmed

744
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: it with my post part and body. I didn't want

745
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: to hide anything. I didn't want to you know, a

746
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: year later be shredded. Hopefully I'll be shredded, but with

747
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: ads and doing all this and then having these women

748
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: because I know what it feels like having women look

749
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: at me and go, oh but I'm heavy, and you know,

750
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: I'll never be like that because I had those same thoughts.

751
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: I saw other people online that would literally walk out

752
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: of the hospital after giving birth and they're in their

753
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: skinny jeens. And I gained like twenty five kilos both pregnancies,

754
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: and it's a lot for me. But yeah, you can't

755
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: compare to those other people and look at that. So

756
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: I didn't want any of I just wanted to be

757
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: myself and show everything, show my stomach hanging out, showing

758
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: the excess skin everything, So it's all there. Yeah, I

759
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: love hiding anything.

760
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be wonderful. And it's not the first time,

761
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: actually that you've mentioned you know, it's either just come

762
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: up naturally or you've mentioned a couple of times that

763
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: you're always growing, Like whenever you talk about you know,

764
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: I've improved from this to this. You're always talking about

765
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: how you're learning and constantly evolving, and I love that

766
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, this is what is the best you can

767
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: do right now, Like this program is something you're so

768
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: proud of, but it's so far from where you came from.

769
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: And you're not also ruling out that the next version

770
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: might even be better than this. So yeah, you know,

771
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: you started with a PDF, and it's always evolving. You're

772
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: always researching, and I think people get very stagnant when

773
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: they've taken a step out of the comfort zone and

774
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: forget that your comfort zone catches up with you. And yeah,

775
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, you do need to keep taking steps all

776
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: the time. And it's wonderful watching how you've come so

777
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: far from from that. Pa, do you still have it?

778
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: I have to have a look. I actually put it

779
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: together myself, I said, I used to go to a

780
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: coffee shop and my partner and I used to do

781
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: all that stuff, like the working with PSD and like

782
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: photoshop and all that stuff, and I used to put

783
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: it all together myself, and oh my gosh, it would

784
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: stuff up and I'd be like, I'm gonna snake because

785
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 2: I get really like REVD up. My partner's gonna calm

786
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: you down. But yeah, I did a lot of it myself.

787
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: And that's what my point is, Like, you've got to

788
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: do a lot of it. What you can do yourself,

789
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: do it. But when you reach a point where you realize, no,

790
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: I've got to actually start employing people now who are

791
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: better than me at doing this, then you do so.

792
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: But don't don't just start off with everything and going crazy.

793
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 2: You've got to work your way into it. Just like fitness.

794
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: Don't expect that next week you're gonna have abs and

795
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: a big booty or whatever it is that people want.

796
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: It takes time and it's and you have to really

797
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: want it and remind you that's like what's your Why

798
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: why do you want it? Why do you want to

799
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: keep training every day? Why do you want this business?

800
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: Why are you working so hard? Because like you got

801
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: to have your your reason for and remind yourself of

802
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: that every single day.

803
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, that's why this program is really

804
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: exciting because it is coming from what you were literally

805
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: going through yourself at the time you're filming it, during

806
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: that exact phase. But you know, I think it makes

807
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: it so much more impactful and relatable because people who

808
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: are in that exact phase can connect with you. Yeah,

809
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: and the video going, oh, she was literally going through

810
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: that same thing and I was struggling.

811
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: This is hard, trying not to sway amazing.

812
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828
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Speaker 1: kind of more recent chapter has obviously been becoming a

829
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: mum to Mia and Isaac. What has motherhood changed for you?

830
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: How has that added new depth or new perspectives to

831
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: your journey? And I want to wrap that up in

832
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: the sort of entry into the next section, which is

833
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: the NATA, which is really the challenges we've kind of

834
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: touched on. You know, quite a few of them, but

835
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: we've mentioned briefly self doubt, but also comparison and in

836
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: an increasingly saturated market that's very digital focused, where all

837
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: details of all our lives are in each other's faces

838
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: all the time, I think comparison becomes and for new

839
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: mums in particular, very very difficult area to navigate as

840
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: you're dealing with the changes in your lifestyle and your

841
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: pace and your body and your responsibilities. So you know,

842
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: how has that all interacted in motherhood?

843
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: In your next chapter, I think it's made it more

844
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: important for me to be real, which I have been

845
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: for many years now, but it's even more important and

846
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: to be to practice what I preach, which I do.

847
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: What you see online is exactly how I am in

848
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: real life. But I'm always conscious of how I talk,

849
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: how what I'm talking about, like with my body. So

850
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: having my daughter around me, even at a young age,

851
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: absorbed so much. And if I ever say anything like

852
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: to my partner deck do I look, you know, do

853
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: I look okay? And this is my tummy too fat?

854
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: Or anything like that, I don't want her to hear it,

855
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: you know. I'm just really conscious of that sort of stuff.

856
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: So I want her to be free to be yourself.

857
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: I want her to be confident in herself and not

858
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: be focused on perfection, which I was. For many years.

859
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: I thought perfection existed, and I was always chasing this

860
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: goal that was depletely unattainable, and it was horrible and

861
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: it sets you up for failure. But I'm teaching everything

862
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: that I guess I learned through the hard way, not

863
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: that there's anything wrong with working through it and going

864
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: through all the hard things, because you really do learn

865
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: as long as you do learn from it, but hopefully

866
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: she won't have to go through a lot of the

867
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: things I went through, especially with depression and being suicidal

868
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: and things like that. Just teaching her as much as

869
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: I can, and also about comparison as well, which is

870
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: huge for me, which I went through myself. I always

871
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: used to compare myself, and yeah, having confidence in yourself

872
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: and self belief another thing that I struggled with. And

873
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: I still have days where I feel like, oh, you know,

874
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm not good enough for this. There's always something. It

875
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: was always along those lines, I'm not good enough. That

876
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: was something I always used to tell myself or tell

877
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: other people, and I stopped doing that. So being conscious

878
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: of your words, what you're thinking. Just so much stuff

879
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: that I've learned, especially about mental health and your thoughts

880
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: and taking control of it and then being all positive

881
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 2: and have practicing gratitude and all these things. I'm even

882
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: now just starting with my three year old, trying to

883
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: teach her so that hopefully she doesn't go through all

884
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: that stuff. I could go on forever because there's so

885
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: much a talk about.

886
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: No. I love how passionate you are about you know.

887
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it's something you've been very vocal about

888
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: and the message is really getting through even to people

889
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: like myself who haven't had children yet. I'm giving all

890
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: these of the bank for you know, when that chapter

891
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: of our life does begin, it's you know, how passionate

892
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: you are about noncomparison and being you know, a big

893
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: figure on a platform that makes that very difficult. Sometimes

894
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: it is so important to have the right strategies and

895
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: barriers because I feel like there's no area like early

896
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: motherhood where people will judge what you do and also

897
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: tell you about it. Like people comment on each other's

898
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: lives all the time anyway, But if you're ever going

899
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: to get like viciously passionate hatred or comments just on

900
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: what you're doing, you know, I feel like early motherhood,

901
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: every mom kind of feels like they can comment and

902
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: what everyone else is doing, and oh yeah, and they're

903
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: always really passionate. Oh yeah, And I know, you know,

904
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: you're really passionate about not judging each other. And you know,

905
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: I understand people often it comes out of care and concern,

906
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: But I love that you've been very vocal about the

907
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: non judgment of everyone's postpartum journey. It looks different early

908
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: mother f and parenting and in general. You know, so,

909
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: what are some other strategies from a practical sense that

910
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: have helped you? Like, you probably get a thousand percent

911
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: the commentary and trolling then the average mum would who's

912
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: not on social media. So how do you build walls

913
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: up to keep that kind of comparison or mum guilt

914
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: or constant questioning of like am I doing the right thing?

915
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: How do you keep that in check?

916
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard because being a natural doubter, I used

917
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: to always doubt myself and I still do, and it's

918
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: something I have to stay on top of. I always

919
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: think that I'm I'm wrong and everyone else is right,

920
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: and I start panny panicking. You could if I speaking

921
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: about it and I think, I know I've got to

922
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: do this, and my partner's like, what are you doing?

923
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: M even with fitness stuff, Like I'm an expert. I've

924
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: been doing this for many years now, and I will

925
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: question myself. But I think it's good because at least

926
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: I go on research and work out whether what I'm

927
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: doing is correct, and I'm always updating my knowledge but

928
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: always second guessing myself. It's something that I seem to

929
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: do a lot, so I always work on it now

930
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: and having confidence in what I'm doing as a parent

931
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: because I know what's best for my kids and my

932
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: doctors of course, you know, or their doctors actual experts,

933
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: not just people who think they're experts, but they don't

934
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: know everything. So because I think it's one of the negatives,

935
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: I guess, and there's many negatives about social media, but

936
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: putting so much out there, you're susceptible to getting all

937
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: this judgment and criticisms, which is really difficult to deal with.

938
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: But you've got to go, Okay, well, are they coming,

939
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: is it valid? Is that something that they are genuinely

940
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: Are they genuinely trying to help you? And do they

941
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: know what they're talking about? And do I know better?

942
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: Or are they just doing it because they they want

943
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: to criticize and be nasty, which a lot of the

944
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: time they do. I've had people tell me when I

945
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: was pregnant, oh I hope your baby dies, and horrible

946
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: things like this, Like I've had the most awful things

947
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: said to me and I don't know how or where

948
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: it comes from it but it must be from a

949
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: place of pain, clearly. But dealing with that is really hard,

950
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: and you've got to go and say, Okay, well they're not.

951
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: They're not in my life. They're not they don't know me,

952
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: and I don't care about what they think of me

953
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: and their opinions because they're not experts in that field

954
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and they don't truly care about me.

955
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: It's not from a place of love. So constructive criticism

956
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: is when it's from a place of love, someone truly

957
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: cares about you, or they are actually experts in it.

958
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: Otherwise the rest of the opinions and comments and everything,

959
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: you don't need to take it on. And I've actually

960
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: got a practice removing it. I visualize and do. I

961
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: have a process of what I go through, Like when

962
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: I'm getting hate or opinions and it's getting I get

963
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: overwhelmed very easily. I'm getting to that point. I do

964
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: these things, and some of it is practicing breathing properly

965
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: and meditating and training. But I visualize when someone's throwing

966
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: a hateful comment to me or something that makes me

967
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: feel anxious, it attaches to me. So it's like all

968
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: these people are attaching to me on this like big

969
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: string or whatever, and then I visualize cutting them and

970
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: then throwing it away. And just doing that process makes

971
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: me feel free and like, oh wow, I don't have

972
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: to actually take that on. I don't have to actually

973
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: own that it doesn't mean anything. It's just their opinions.

974
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: It's like buttoles. Everyone's got one, right, but like send

975
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: it away, but you don't have to like take it

976
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: on as like it's real. It's not. It doesn't mean anything.

977
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: So everyone has their own way of dealing with things

978
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: and they can find whatever works for them. But that's

979
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: something that works for me and it really does help

980
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: visualizing that.

981
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: I really like that concept of triaging as well, making

982
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: sure you do kind of look at them all and

983
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: separate them ones that are coming from a place of

984
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: love from the ones that aren't, because it is important

985
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: to be able to take constructive feedback when it's helpful

986
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: and it is coming from a place of love, but

987
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: you do have to, yeah, distinguish those from the ones

988
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: that aren't. And I think people really do forget that

989
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: there's a person on the other end. And yeah, because

990
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: when the numbers get into the millions, like fourteen million

991
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: your community, I think they can disconnect from you as

992
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: a human like that they would see on the street

993
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: and forget that even if it's stupid, and even if

994
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: it's not valid. Of course, of course you know it's stupid,

995
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: but it's still still hurts. Yeah. Absolutely, of course you

996
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: agonize over it.

997
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: It's so natural, you know what they say, They say, well,

998
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: you put yourself out there, so you should be prepared

999
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: for this. Yeah, okay, well I choose to put myself

1000
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: out there, but nobody should put up with various forms

1001
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: of I guess bullying and criticisms and things like that.

1002
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: No one should put up with that, and they really

1003
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: need to be responsible for their words because words have power. Absolutely,

1004
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: I guess it's always going to happen. But that's another

1005
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: thing I'm going to teach my kids too, all of

1006
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: this that we're talking about, that not to you know,

1007
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: take on what people say as being the truth because

1008
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: it's not, and being really confident in yourself and having

1009
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: armor as well, you know, speaking. I love that, and

1010
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: those visualizations also really help if anyone's listening and looking

1011
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 2: for practical tips. Visualization is so powerful and it's so true.

1012
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: People do often excuse it by saying, well, you put

1013
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: yourself out there, and I absolutely believe that putting so

1014
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: much content of our lives out there does mean we

1015
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: have to be ready for scrutiny, but that scrutiny is

1016
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: different to just outright bullying. It's nothing excuses that no

1017
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: matter what people put out there, but especially not if

1018
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: you're putting out things to help other people. You know,

1019
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: I just think nothing excuses behavior like that, you know,

1020
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: especially of it.

1021
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: Their only intention is to hurt, So it's not to help,

1022
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: it's to hurt, and that's the complete wrong way to

1023
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: go about it. So we don't need to listen to it. Yeah,

1024
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: I mean they say it and hurts, but then you go, okay,

1025
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: not listening, see you later.

1026
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Just put on your armor exactly.

1027
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: So the last section is Playta, which I again, everyone

1028
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: listening have read your survey answers and know that I

1029
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: always leave this to last and don't leave enough time

1030
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: for it. So I've left a little more time than usual,

1031
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: and it's actually my favorite section where we strip back

1032
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: all of the productive Mum, Emily Trainer, Emily app owner, Emily,

1033
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, Emily owner of James Cosmetics. One of my

1034
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: favorite favorite favorite imasks that I was wearing literally last

1035
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: night and today with so much going on, you know,

1036
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: it's just so hard to remember that we have an

1037
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: identity that's just joyful, that's you know, what you want

1038
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: to do when you have nothing else to do, and

1039
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: we never have nothing else to do, so we have

1040
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: to artificially create those moments in our life. But if

1041
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: you don't, you know, you're not here to just work

1042
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: and die. And as you mentioned, even if you love

1043
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: your job, you're still working, and you still need time

1044
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: away from it, even if you love every minute of it.

1045
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: So how do you play? What are the things that

1046
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: you do? You know, if you do make time for that,

1047
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: just like downtime, just brain off like they can be

1048
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: as stupid or as fun or as childlike as you want.

1049
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: And I think this is where we let the inner

1050
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: child come out. They're usually pretty like aunctivities.

1051
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm very immature, and I hold onto my immaturity because

1052
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: I love it. I love being free, and I love

1053
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: now that I have kids that I can actually go

1054
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: back into that, like tap into my childhood again and

1055
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: maybe even do things that I never got to do.

1056
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: But I love playing. I love doing puzzles. Actually every day,

1057
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: almost every day, I'll do a puzzle with my daughter,

1058
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: my three year old and I find doing the puzzle

1059
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: so therapeutic, and it's so good because you're not on

1060
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: the TV, you're not on the phone, not on the computer.

1061
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: I've actually made a deliberate effort to not be on

1062
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: it so much. I get on do what I need to,

1063
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: and I put the phone down. I don't need to

1064
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: be on there. I don't need to read people's responses anymore.

1065
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll skim through just to get feedback, because feedback

1066
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: is important. But I generally have a good idea of

1067
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: what I'm doing now because it's been so many years.

1068
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: But I just don't linger on there. I don't need

1069
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: to scroll, I don't need to go and look at

1070
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: other people's things. Just get off it, put it down.

1071
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: And my daughter actually a while ago, it was a

1072
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: few months ago, and it was in a time where

1073
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: I was I was working on the business, and it's

1074
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: always I'm always working on the business, but I was really,

1075
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, every hour basically doing something, and I was

1076
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: working on my phone and me and my daughter comes

1077
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: up and she goes, no, and she grabs it and

1078
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: she's like no, And I went, yeah, you're right putting

1079
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: it down because you're more important. And I went remember

1080
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: this em and you don't want her to grow up

1081
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: having memories of this phone between us. So I always

1082
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: put it down. Now I'm not even on it barely ever.

1083
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: Now it's so amazing. It makes me feel so good

1084
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: because I was getting really overwhelmed. I take on everything.

1085
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm a really sensitive person and I care about everyone,

1086
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: and everyone's always messaging with their problems, which is terrible.

1087
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: But I can't help everyone. To make sure my self

1088
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: is taken care of my family, I can't help everyone,

1089
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: and that's okay, but I feel like I need to.

1090
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: So that's something that I've done and put into practice

1091
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm not getting overwhelmed. So I

1092
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: do the puzzles. I dance with my daughter badly because

1093
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm a terrible dance. So if anyone's followed me, I

1094
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: post a lot of my bad dancing. It's even in

1095
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: the program. Actually, it's as like it's cool downs and

1096
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: warm ups and stuff in the program me dancing really badly.

1097
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: So if anyone, I love it. Yeah, So even in

1098
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: the programs like Me Being Real. But what else do

1099
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: I do? Swim the pool, I get outside and play,

1100
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: I do crafts. I paint with my daughter. Just anything

1101
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: that I have fun and it makes me laugh, makes

1102
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: me feel good. I even love going to those kids

1103
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: play places with the you know, the slides and the

1104
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: little balls and all that stuff going on. I want

1105
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: to go for me, and my partner's like, oh, you're

1106
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: not taking me or there for her? You want to go,

1107
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, she gets to enjoy it as well.

1108
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: But I love that. And I don't think people should

1109
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: hold back. There's a time to be mature, of course,

1110
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: but I don't think we should really. I think we're

1111
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: sort of for whatever reason, we feel like or we're

1112
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: tak to that we can't be like that. You know,

1113
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: we've got to be serious all the time, but we

1114
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: really need to have fun and play and it is

1115
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: so important for our mental health and for your family.

1116
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely. That was like my biggest breakthrough when I first

1117
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: moved into matcha Maiden was you know, I went from

1118
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: corporate to health and thought, you know, I was going

1119
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: to be the picture of health because I ate a

1120
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: broccoli and did yogurt and went to spin and I

1121
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 1: had no joy. There was no just playing to let out,

1122
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, let off steam, and no just free play.

1123
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't be silly. And even when I submitted the

1124
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: book proposal for CZDA, the publisher was like, do you

1125
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: want to use ya? Like, isn't it a little bit juvenile?

1126
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's why I want to use

1127
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: it to counteract the seriousness of everything in life and

1128
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: how we're so adult and responsibility focused and it's very

1129
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: hard for people like us to not be productive and

1130
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: not use our time usefully all the time. And I've

1131
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: had to almost practice integrating downtime into my life, which

1132
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: you're so confusing.

1133
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you mean. I had to do

1134
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: it too, because you feel like, no, I've got to

1135
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 2: be doing this. There's always there's always something to do.

1136
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: There's always if you've got a business, there's always work

1137
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: to do. You've got to go do I want to

1138
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: reach ninety or whatever? And go did I enjoy that? Like?

1139
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 2: I had these business and I did this and that,

1140
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: But did I enjoy the process there? So you've got

1141
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: to have playtime, You've got to have downtime. And something

1142
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: I really want to add as well is when you

1143
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: have a goal, it's you don't think that when you

1144
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: reach that goal you're going to be happy Automatically, I

1145
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: think the happiness is in the process getting there. So

1146
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: when you break it down and you and you and

1147
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: it's a journey to getting there, you've got to find

1148
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: joy in it because if you don't, don't bother. Absolutely

1149
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: not that it's not you know, the times of being

1150
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: it's hard and you're like, oh, this is a trainer,

1151
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: but you've got to find those moments.

1152
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1153
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: I always do that with everything I do.

1154
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: I agree with that so much. And I think when

1155
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: you do become really destination focused, the problem with that

1156
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: is then you get to the destination and you're like.

1157
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: Well now what now.

1158
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're never happy with it because there's

1159
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: always this static place and if you're not enjoying any

1160
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: of the journey. I do think that's the people that

1161
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: end up at ninety year ago, Well, you know, what

1162
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: did I enjoy? I didn't enjoy any of that. What

1163
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: was the point of it all?

1164
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1165
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: No one's ever going to look back and think I

1166
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: wish I had less fun. Yeah, Like, I just don't

1167
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: think anyone has ever thought that in their life. You know,

1168
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: I wish I enjoyed myself less than I did.

1169
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, people say I wish I had more time, but

1170
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: time for what. So make use of your time doing

1171
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: the things that you enjoy more.

1172
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: And I also find that if I do take time

1173
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: to play, I'm so much better in my mind then

1174
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: when I go back to work, and I'm actually faster

1175
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: everything because I'm more motivated. Totally, I'm less jaded. And

1176
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: I think that's what balance is. Yes, absolutely, And one

1177
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: of the things that I think is so wonderful with

1178
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: James Cosmetics, one of your other businesses, of the many,

1179
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: many amazing things that you're doing, is encouraging us this

1180
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: year to put aside twenty minutes for you twice a week.

1181
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's not an overwhelming every day for an

1182
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: hour kind of thing. It's, you know, just a realistic

1183
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: amount of time that's an EA appointment for us to

1184
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: put in our calendars and just you know, set it

1185
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: aside for.

1186
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Ourselves exactly, and you've got to make an appointment.

1187
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: I put it in my calendar. I literally as soon

1188
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: as I saw the wellness campaign, I put it in

1189
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: my calendar in the same color as a meeting, because

1190
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: otherwise I'll just you know.

1191
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: Exactly, and you're not gonna let like if you have

1192
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: a diar and I say this with training as well.

1193
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: Make appointments with yourself, and don't let yourself down, because

1194
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: would you let your friend down, hopefully not, or a

1195
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: business person or whatever, you don't want to let them down.

1196
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: Don't let yourself down. Why not have yourself, you know,

1197
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: on the same sort of thing in the same category.

1198
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: Don't let yourself down. And because you're a much better

1199
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: person to everyone else when you're you're happy and you're

1200
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: doing these things for yourself. But practicing self care is

1201
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: something that I have really had to start working on,

1202
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: just like you were saying, like it starts slow and

1203
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: you work into it. You've got to set that time

1204
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: aside weekly, if not daily, even if it's five minutes,

1205
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: even when I'm flat out, if I'm feeling overwhelmed, because

1206
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: you get a radic and then you can't you're not

1207
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: very efficient or effective at your work. You've got it

1208
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: actually to stop, and I will I stop. I close

1209
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: my eyes wherever I am, and I work on deep

1210
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: breathing dia fromatic breathing, bringing that air into my diaphrame

1211
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: rather than it being in your chest because that's an

1212
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: anxious kind of breathing. Bring it, slow it down, and

1213
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: bring it down low and do even a minute of

1214
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: that can make a difference. So you can start at

1215
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: a minute and work your way up. It's really nothing.

1216
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: Even while you're sitting on the toilet. You could do it.

1217
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: You can do it anyway.

1218
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: And I have to just remind myself, you know, like

1219
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a heart surgeon. Ye know, there's no scenario

1220
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: in my life in which I don't have a minute.

1221
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: There's no possible situation where I can't take one minute

1222
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: to just pause and breathe. Nothing is going to happen,

1223
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: and no one's going to die. The will is not

1224
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: going to follow down around me exactly if I take

1225
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: five or ten minutes, you know. And if we're really

1226
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: getting strict on what urgency actually means, nothing in my

1227
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: life is actually urgent in the world, it really is.

1228
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: It really isn't. Yeah, And I think because I don't

1229
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: do the traditional kind of meditation, like I find it

1230
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: really hard to see steal and do it. But I

1231
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: just started with practicing breathing and just focusing on my

1232
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: breath and it's as simple as that. So you don't

1233
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: have to be sort of I don't know, scared of

1234
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: it or whatever and think, oh, I can't do that.

1235
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: You can do it, but just start slowly, just like

1236
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: your exercise.

1237
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Oh totally. Oh my gosh, you are so wonderful.

1238
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: You're wonderful.

1239
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: One thing that also comes through very clearly is the

1240
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: level of self awareness that you have, knowing when you're

1241
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and then knowing immediately what to do about it.

1242
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the key to any kind of joy,

1243
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: is knowing your patterns and your strategies, and yes, taking

1244
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: ideas and inspiration from other people, but until you experiment

1245
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: with your own body and your own brain. Yeah, I

1246
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: think we just really need to tweak and tailor our

1247
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: systems to how we react to things. And I love

1248
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: how you're very aware of what such you know, certain

1249
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: situations do to you and how to counter it. I

1250
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: think that's so inspiring.

1251
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes I let it go too far and I'm like,

1252
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: oh am, I overwhelmed really because it's like, yeah, I'm

1253
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: a catastrophizer. I think everything's just the worst and there's

1254
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: so much happening because my mind never stops. And you

1255
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: might be the same. Creative people are usually like it.

1256
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: You never stop, and it's just like woo, you just

1257
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: stop and that's why I go all right, time to stop,

1258
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 2: let's breathe and just focus on the breath, and that's it,

1259
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: and I feel like, oh, it's not so bad.

1260
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm still alive. Oh my gosh, the world is still turning.

1261
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

1262
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: So just to finish up, what are three interesting things

1263
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: about you that don't normally come up in conversation and

1264
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: haven't yet come up in this conversation.

1265
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: Something interesting I was thinking about the other day. I've

1266
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: been exercising for eleven years now and actually became qualified

1267
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: when I was eighteen or nineteen, but I kind of had,

1268
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: you know, time off doing that. But I've been training

1269
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: for a long time and every time I go to

1270
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: the gym, I'm nervous before I train, and I mean,

1271
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: like butterflies properly.

1272
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: And I tell my partner Deck in the car on

1273
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: the lay I'm like, nervous. I'm nervous, and he's like,

1274
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: why are you nervous? I was like, because I know

1275
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be hard because I train hard. But

1276
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I get nervous every time. And I used to think

1277
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: I was weird and something was wrong with me. But

1278
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: I embrace it because I say to my partner Deck,

1279
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: it makes me train harder, like it's the way I function.

1280
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: It gets my body pumping with blood. Because I used

1281
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: to do sprinting when I was at school, and I

1282
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: used to get incredibly nervous before a race. I'd be

1283
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: vomiting and shaking and carrying on.

1284
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Speaker 2: But it gets the adrenaline going and I can go fast. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I just go, yeah, just start up the way I

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00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: am And it's cool. So yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that's that's one. There's another something that's weird. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: if people get nervous, it's yeah, that's totally fine. You'll

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Speaker 2: probably smash it in the gym, so that's good. Another

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00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: thing that's I guess weird. I have a phobia of

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Speaker 2: dry feet, my own dry feet. So and I know

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Speaker 2: this is weird. And I'm the biggest weirdo ever like

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Speaker 2: you could ever meet.

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Speaker 1: I cannot save and give you a run for your money.

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Speaker 2: Getting into bed and having right feet touching the sheets,

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Speaker 2: I get shivers, like it's like the chalkboard, the nails

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Speaker 2: on the chalkboard thing. I get shivers and I can't

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Speaker 2: handle it. And I've got to by dry, like not moisturized. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so I have to have moisturize on my feet. But

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Speaker 2: it's worse than what you think. Like if I get

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Speaker 2: up to go to the toilet and get back into bed,

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Speaker 2: I put moisturizer back on my feet. I can't stand

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Speaker 2: it and weird.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: My partner decks, like you, you are so weird.

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Speaker 1: Oh we all have is really weird. We all have

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Speaker 1: those weird things, and I feel like finishing off with

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Speaker 1: these every episode is just you know, I'm always in

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Speaker 1: hysterics because they're just so good, and that's the stuff

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Speaker 1: that you know, people who don't live with you, they

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Speaker 1: don't know these little quirk so I just love sharing them.

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Speaker 1: They're so funny and they remind everyone that we're all human.

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Speaker 1: We all have weird things that we just we just

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Speaker 1: have to do to feel like a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's fine, Like I love that yours is

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Speaker 2: just like moisturizer I used to carry around because I

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Speaker 2: don't like my hands either, but they're not as bad

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Speaker 2: as feet. But I usually I've sort of come my

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Speaker 2: hands a little bit because I thought I can do anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to overcome this. So I started with my

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Speaker 2: hands and now they don't need to be always so moisturized.

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Speaker 2: My feet. I still haven't overcome that yet, so it's progress,

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Speaker 2: but I might get there.

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Speaker 1: What if your partner's feet are dry? Does he have

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Speaker 1: to do it too? He doesn't really. What if he

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Speaker 1: gets him?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't really touch me because if I put my

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Speaker 2: foot on him, he's like, get your foot off. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't like it my foot touching. And I used to

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Speaker 2: say to him, I like, I like it touching you.

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Speaker 2: It's like my anchor and it makes me feel comforted.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, I can't stand it. So it's

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Speaker 2: one thing we don't really maybe because you're a wife

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Speaker 2: moisturizer on him.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's just proposterized from the feet.

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Speaker 2: I think I kind of I might gouge him, like

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: with my toes and he doesn't like that and they

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: get my toes. Oh, what's another thing? I can do

1339
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: the the matrix move, you know, the limbo type matrix thing.

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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: I can do that. So that's that's a cool thing.

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: So it's not all bad and weird.

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Speaker 1: That's a party trick. Yeah. I like party tricks.

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Speaker 2: I've got a piece of weird ones. I can't really think.

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I once tried to bleach my teeth with

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01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: actual bleach when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my god, did you get really sick?

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Speaker 2: No, I was all right because I put I got

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01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: glad rap and put it on. Oh shit, Oh that's

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: really clever. Something else I used to do, really Oh.

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Speaker 2: I used to do weird things like dye my own

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01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: hair and I'd get food coloring. Oh. I used to

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01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: bleach my hair because I had blonde when I was

1353
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: young and used to streak it myself and it used

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: to go really orange. So I'd get food dye blue

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01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: and red, and i'd make purple and make my own tona.

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: I used to do all this weird stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, that's so cool. What a crafty woman. Oh, there's

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: so many of those. You love that I'm strange. I'm

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: inventive that no, strange is the best. Strange is good.

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Speaker 1: Stranger my people, you know, I think once you get

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Speaker 1: to the point in your life where you just embrace

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Speaker 1: how weird you are, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what's changed a lot with it having

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: kids as well. I'm more weird now and I embrace

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: it and I just don't care. And people will say

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01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: things like I do my stupid dancing online and they're like, oh,

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: embarrassing or awkward. And I say, look, I hope you have,

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01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: you know, a chance to be yourself and you you

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: you're confident enough to do it and you feel you know,

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: you don't hide yourself. That's what I'm trying to say, Like,

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01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 2: I hope, hope that people actually and it's usually people

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: that feel uncomfortable with it because they don't do let

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01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: themselves out. Yeah, but you've just got to be yourself.

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: Who cares and the right people stick around, the ones

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01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: that aren't right will go and who cares see you later?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, they clearly need some all Platier right there.

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: I know.

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: And since I love quote so much, what is your

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01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: favorite quote? Oh?

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: What's that quote called? I'm just asking lang because I

1381
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: keep forgetting the name. The one of the Brene Brown says,

1382
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: it's not the man who stumbles, the doer of deeds,

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01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: you know the one I'm talking about?

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that one. You're doing.

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: The man in the arena, And it's it's basically saying

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01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: that if you're not out in the arena getting your

1387
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: ass kicked, then you don't have It goes along with

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: the whole criticism thing, so everyone's in the arena watching you,

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01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: and if you're not putting yourself out there and not

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01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: just hiding away from the world, you're taking a step

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01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: out and taking risks. Then you're gonna get criticized and

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna have people say all these different things. But

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: if you're not in the arena too getting your ass kicked,

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01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: then shut up. Basically is what I get from it,

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01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: and I love that.

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: I actually prefer your translation of it.

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: It's probably not even right, but it's what I get it.

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01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Everyone gets what they need, right. Oh, do you want

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Speaker 2: me to read it to you quickly?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Please.

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01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: It's a shortened version, so it's by Theodore Roosevelt. It

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: is not the critic who counts, not the man who

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01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: points out how the strong man stumbles or where the

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit

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01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: belongs to the man who's actually in the arena. And

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Speaker 2: that's a shortened version. Go and have a look at

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01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: the long one. Oh no, but it has to go.

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Speaker 1: Really a commentary. I really like that. I'll put the

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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: quote there and then you're a little interpretation. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Something else, and I know we've been going on, but

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: something else I really want to add to that is.

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Speaker 2: It goes along with the arena thing. When you're in

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Speaker 2: the arena, meaning you've stepped out into the world and

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01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: you're doing what you want to do, be prepared to

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01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: get criticisms from p But you've got to have in

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: the arena. You've got to have the people sitting there

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01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: who like the critics, the ones that are going to

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: be negative, sitting up in the corner. Then you everyone else.

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: You've got some other people who might love what you do.

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: And then you've got to have the people who actually

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: mean something to you, the ones that truly care and

1422
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 2: love you, like your family. They have to be sitting

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01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: there too, and you've got to listen to their opinions first,

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: and not just always be going towards the ones who

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: are the negative ones, because as humans we always focus

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Speaker 2: on that for whatever reason. But you've got to be

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: prepared for all of them and have them there ready.

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Speaker 2: So before i'd go on TV or do something that

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 2: I was afraid of, I'd imagine the arena and everyone

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Speaker 2: in there and my message and getting my message across

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01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: and why I want to get it across, that it's

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Speaker 2: going to help people. I focus on that, I be

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Speaker 2: prepared for the negative people, and I know that my

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Speaker 2: loved ones, the people who really care for me, are

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: out there too, and I need to listen to them first.

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01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that makes sense, but that's

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Speaker 2: something I always focus on.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I love that. Just one of the many,

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Speaker 1: many pearls of wisdom that you shared with us today.

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Speaker 2: I can talk so much.

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Speaker 1: No, I love it, and I'm just saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: we could have gone full Joe Rogan and done like

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Speaker 1: a four hour episode longer, but thank you so much. Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: People would be sick of me, not at all. Thank you, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: She has also so generously given the Neighborhood a code

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