1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,385 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:24,385 Speaker 3: Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and 5 00:00:24,465 --> 00:00:26,065 Speaker 3: I don't even feel jailty body. 6 00:00:28,585 --> 00:00:31,905 Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for 7 00:00:32,025 --> 00:00:35,785 Speaker 4: your Face. I'm Kelly McCarran and welcome to the formula 8 00:00:36,065 --> 00:00:40,265 Speaker 4: where each week we chat to celebs, experts, and the 9 00:00:40,345 --> 00:00:43,905 Speaker 4: biggest names in beauty to steal their secrets and share 10 00:00:43,905 --> 00:00:44,385 Speaker 4: them with you. 11 00:00:44,985 --> 00:00:47,945 Speaker 1: Today's guest is someone you probably already know and. 12 00:00:47,985 --> 00:00:51,985 Speaker 4: Love because your feed surely has been graced with her 13 00:00:52,065 --> 00:00:56,505 Speaker 4: chaotic presence. She's completely unfiltered and she has built a 14 00:00:56,585 --> 00:01:00,585 Speaker 4: massive community online by sharing the highs, lows, and very 15 00:01:00,625 --> 00:01:05,745 Speaker 4: real moments of motherhood. It's the incredible Indie Clinton, content creator, 16 00:01:05,985 --> 00:01:09,105 Speaker 4: mum of three and now the face of Booth, the 17 00:01:09,145 --> 00:01:12,025 Speaker 4: brand new Aussie haircare range that's hit to tackle thinning 18 00:01:12,025 --> 00:01:15,585 Speaker 4: hair and hair loss with patented science, back to tech 19 00:01:15,665 --> 00:01:18,785 Speaker 4: that actually works. Indy will chat about this more in 20 00:01:18,825 --> 00:01:21,265 Speaker 4: the episode, but she has struggled with thin hair her 21 00:01:21,385 --> 00:01:25,785 Speaker 4: whole life, and then postpartum things only got worse as 22 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:28,505 Speaker 4: many people that have had a baby will know. But 23 00:01:28,625 --> 00:01:32,345 Speaker 4: after trialing Booth behind the scenes for months, she's seen 24 00:01:32,425 --> 00:01:35,425 Speaker 4: a transformation that not only changed her hair but gave 25 00:01:35,465 --> 00:01:38,545 Speaker 4: her back her confidence in such a big way. Ubiz, 26 00:01:38,585 --> 00:01:42,065 Speaker 4: You're absolutely gonna love this chat with Indy. I've been 27 00:01:42,145 --> 00:01:45,185 Speaker 4: lucky enough to interview so many people over the years, 28 00:01:45,505 --> 00:01:49,825 Speaker 4: and Indy is someone who was just as funny, warm 29 00:01:50,065 --> 00:01:53,825 Speaker 4: and kind as she comes across online. But I do 30 00:01:53,905 --> 00:01:56,385 Speaker 4: need to apologize as my voice. I mean, you can 31 00:01:56,465 --> 00:02:00,425 Speaker 4: hear it, but oh, it's gonna get worse. Longtime listeners 32 00:02:00,465 --> 00:02:03,105 Speaker 4: will know that my voice is quite partial to taking 33 00:02:03,105 --> 00:02:06,345 Speaker 4: a vacation occasionally, which you know must be nice. I 34 00:02:06,385 --> 00:02:10,025 Speaker 4: do sound awful, but I promise I'm fine. Last my 35 00:02:10,145 --> 00:02:12,905 Speaker 4: voice will be getting more and more questionable as the 36 00:02:12,905 --> 00:02:16,505 Speaker 4: episode goes on. Please forgive me and just try to 37 00:02:16,505 --> 00:02:20,865 Speaker 4: focus on my beautiful guest and the warm hug that 38 00:02:20,985 --> 00:02:22,105 Speaker 4: this conversation is. 39 00:02:22,625 --> 00:02:24,465 Speaker 1: Indy, welcome to the formula. 40 00:02:24,905 --> 00:02:26,825 Speaker 3: You are such beautiful skill. 41 00:02:27,025 --> 00:02:32,465 Speaker 2: But how okay, before we get into anything else, Indy, 42 00:02:32,625 --> 00:02:36,305 Speaker 2: let's talk about you social media and making headlines, because 43 00:02:37,065 --> 00:02:41,585 Speaker 2: you've recently been making a few, but unfortunately not all 44 00:02:41,705 --> 00:02:45,585 Speaker 2: nice ones, which I think it's because I know your sister, 45 00:02:45,705 --> 00:02:47,665 Speaker 2: so I probably feel like a little bit more protective 46 00:02:47,745 --> 00:02:51,265 Speaker 2: than the average person. And I've never been involved, Like 47 00:02:51,305 --> 00:02:54,945 Speaker 2: I just don't involve myself in online stuff because I'm 48 00:02:54,945 --> 00:02:57,065 Speaker 2: always kind of like I can't be bothered arguing with 49 00:02:57,105 --> 00:02:57,905 Speaker 2: strangers online. 50 00:02:57,945 --> 00:02:59,625 Speaker 5: To me, that just seems like why would I. 51 00:03:00,225 --> 00:03:02,345 Speaker 2: But there has never been a time where I have 52 00:03:02,425 --> 00:03:04,185 Speaker 2: not felt like just getting online and going. 53 00:03:04,625 --> 00:03:05,625 Speaker 5: Leave India alone. 54 00:03:07,745 --> 00:03:11,025 Speaker 2: Britney spears mean from all that literally just like leave 55 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:13,425 Speaker 2: her alone. 56 00:03:13,745 --> 00:03:15,145 Speaker 3: That is very sweet. Thank you. 57 00:03:15,305 --> 00:03:17,505 Speaker 2: So you took a break from socials and then you 58 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:20,145 Speaker 2: came back and you shared like that you're quite nervous 59 00:03:20,185 --> 00:03:24,025 Speaker 2: to return. What was that experience really like and how 60 00:03:24,065 --> 00:03:26,385 Speaker 2: did it affect your confidence? And what would you like 61 00:03:26,465 --> 00:03:29,305 Speaker 2: to say to anyone that had something to say about 62 00:03:29,305 --> 00:03:31,825 Speaker 2: your appearance or things that it's okay to comment on 63 00:03:31,865 --> 00:03:34,905 Speaker 2: what someone looks like, unless it's to say, sligh, you 64 00:03:34,945 --> 00:03:37,345 Speaker 2: look hot, which is always always okay. 65 00:03:37,465 --> 00:03:39,705 Speaker 3: I mean, I find it's crazy to me that we're 66 00:03:39,745 --> 00:03:42,025 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five and people are still commenting on 67 00:03:42,425 --> 00:03:44,185 Speaker 3: what you do to your own body, Like I just 68 00:03:44,545 --> 00:03:48,625 Speaker 3: everybody wants progression in society. Yep, there's women mothers that 69 00:03:48,665 --> 00:03:50,745 Speaker 3: are still trying to bring other mothers down. Like, to me, 70 00:03:50,865 --> 00:03:54,985 Speaker 3: that's just crazy. Also crazy because I have no time 71 00:03:55,145 --> 00:03:58,305 Speaker 3: to literally wipe my bum and peace. How do people 72 00:03:58,345 --> 00:04:02,465 Speaker 3: have time to comment these nasty things. 73 00:04:01,545 --> 00:04:05,505 Speaker 5: And not like really I'm just seriously free time, I know, but. 74 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:08,225 Speaker 3: Genuinely, like are they doing it when they're folding clothes? 75 00:04:08,265 --> 00:04:11,065 Speaker 3: Like do they? I don't understand how that. I know, 76 00:04:11,265 --> 00:04:15,225 Speaker 3: I genuinely don't understand how. Firstly, secondly how they can 77 00:04:15,305 --> 00:04:17,985 Speaker 3: lay next to their spouse or partner and children are 78 00:04:18,105 --> 00:04:19,585 Speaker 3: It's like, what are you doing? They? Oh, I don't know, 79 00:04:19,705 --> 00:04:21,705 Speaker 3: just scrolling and they're like on these pages and like, 80 00:04:22,385 --> 00:04:23,905 Speaker 3: I don't know how they sleep at night. Anyway. 81 00:04:24,025 --> 00:04:26,585 Speaker 2: I was talking to someone about that yesterday actually, because 82 00:04:26,585 --> 00:04:29,665 Speaker 2: she was talking about like being public and having all 83 00:04:29,665 --> 00:04:31,945 Speaker 2: of these people say awful things online, and I sent 84 00:04:31,985 --> 00:04:34,065 Speaker 2: her a message and I was like, imagine if you 85 00:04:34,145 --> 00:04:36,425 Speaker 2: found out that your friend, you know, I, had like 86 00:04:36,465 --> 00:04:38,945 Speaker 2: an anonymous account that they drolled people off, And she 87 00:04:39,065 --> 00:04:40,425 Speaker 2: was like, I've never thought about like that. 88 00:04:40,585 --> 00:04:42,105 Speaker 5: You'd be so embarrassed for them. 89 00:04:42,225 --> 00:04:44,745 Speaker 3: I know, seriously, it's so sad, and it's I think 90 00:04:45,265 --> 00:04:47,305 Speaker 3: for me because I took time off, and then I 91 00:04:47,345 --> 00:04:49,585 Speaker 3: came back online and because I was so open, I 92 00:04:49,705 --> 00:04:51,945 Speaker 3: you know, I was getting my RHINOPLASTI done because I 93 00:04:51,945 --> 00:04:53,305 Speaker 3: had an accident in twenty twenty. 94 00:04:53,345 --> 00:04:55,305 Speaker 5: And also you don't need to have an excuse. 95 00:04:55,025 --> 00:04:57,025 Speaker 3: Yes exactly, I don't need to have an excuse. 96 00:04:57,265 --> 00:04:59,785 Speaker 5: I just didn't let my nose. I got it done. 97 00:04:59,985 --> 00:05:02,145 Speaker 3: I love that. But like even if you don't have 98 00:05:02,185 --> 00:05:04,465 Speaker 3: an excuse, or you do and you want to change something, 99 00:05:04,545 --> 00:05:06,425 Speaker 3: a woman, anybody should be able to do that right 100 00:05:06,465 --> 00:05:09,385 Speaker 3: without the online scrutiny, but clearly not in twenty twenty five. 101 00:05:09,665 --> 00:05:11,785 Speaker 3: So I was very open about what I was doing, 102 00:05:11,785 --> 00:05:14,785 Speaker 3: why I was doing it here you go. Clearly people 103 00:05:14,865 --> 00:05:17,745 Speaker 3: loved me being open. And then when the surgery happened, 104 00:05:18,345 --> 00:05:20,865 Speaker 3: and I kind of took some time off because I mean, 105 00:05:20,905 --> 00:05:24,265 Speaker 3: if I can't recover in peace, like fucking hell, that's 106 00:05:24,305 --> 00:05:26,265 Speaker 3: like tiring. If I'm constantly having to post and I 107 00:05:26,345 --> 00:05:28,425 Speaker 3: can't even recover, I just kind of wanted that time 108 00:05:28,545 --> 00:05:31,345 Speaker 3: just to like relax. I guess really not that relaxing 109 00:05:31,385 --> 00:05:33,905 Speaker 3: because I really didn't anticipate what was ahead of me. 110 00:05:34,385 --> 00:05:36,145 Speaker 3: So then when I came back online and I got 111 00:05:36,145 --> 00:05:39,105 Speaker 3: my cast removed. It was obviously a shock to everyone, 112 00:05:39,225 --> 00:05:42,865 Speaker 3: including myself. I saw all these things on social media 113 00:05:42,905 --> 00:05:45,825 Speaker 3: about perfect noses when they get their casts removed, and 114 00:05:45,865 --> 00:05:47,945 Speaker 3: so I had to kind of deal with that internally, 115 00:05:48,025 --> 00:05:50,985 Speaker 3: like people must think I'm delusional because I don't speak 116 00:05:50,985 --> 00:05:52,785 Speaker 3: on it. Really, I haven't been speaking on it, but 117 00:05:52,785 --> 00:05:54,865 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm thinking it right, if I speak on it, 118 00:05:54,985 --> 00:05:57,865 Speaker 3: she gives you more Ammo, everything you're saying, I feel 119 00:05:57,905 --> 00:05:59,825 Speaker 3: the same, but I'm just not saying it. So I've 120 00:05:59,865 --> 00:06:03,345 Speaker 3: just kind of had to live this whole thing multiple times, 121 00:06:03,425 --> 00:06:05,945 Speaker 3: going online for the last three months, reading all these comments, 122 00:06:05,945 --> 00:06:06,705 Speaker 3: how botched you look. 123 00:06:06,785 --> 00:06:08,465 Speaker 2: I just like to say on the record that Indye 124 00:06:08,505 --> 00:06:10,425 Speaker 2: sitting in front of me, and there's not one botched 125 00:06:10,425 --> 00:06:11,425 Speaker 2: thing about that girl. 126 00:06:11,785 --> 00:06:12,825 Speaker 5: She's beautiful. 127 00:06:13,385 --> 00:06:16,225 Speaker 3: So the thing is, I'm like, I understand, it's a 128 00:06:16,305 --> 00:06:18,425 Speaker 3: change from what you're used to. I understand, and. 129 00:06:18,305 --> 00:06:20,465 Speaker 2: It's not really it's like a slightly different nose, Like 130 00:06:20,465 --> 00:06:22,945 Speaker 2: why is anyone paying that much attention to someone's face. 131 00:06:22,985 --> 00:06:23,505 Speaker 5: It's weird. 132 00:06:23,705 --> 00:06:27,105 Speaker 3: I know it is crazy, but from their perspective, I 133 00:06:27,145 --> 00:06:29,225 Speaker 3: see both sides. They've grown up with me, and for 134 00:06:29,385 --> 00:06:33,665 Speaker 3: me it's hard because I was a mom at age 135 00:06:33,665 --> 00:06:36,425 Speaker 3: twenty two. You know, my identity change from such a 136 00:06:36,425 --> 00:06:38,585 Speaker 3: young age, from in my twenties when most girls are 137 00:06:38,585 --> 00:06:42,185 Speaker 3: going out your part, Yeah, a lot earlier. And that's fine. 138 00:06:42,185 --> 00:06:43,385 Speaker 3: It was my choice and I love it and I 139 00:06:43,425 --> 00:06:45,185 Speaker 3: wouldn't change it for the world. And I always wanted 140 00:06:45,265 --> 00:06:48,305 Speaker 3: kids young, but I've had to change and my identity 141 00:06:48,425 --> 00:06:51,625 Speaker 3: and kind of find a new identity multiple times. I've 142 00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:53,785 Speaker 3: had three kids, and every time you have a child, 143 00:06:54,305 --> 00:06:56,705 Speaker 3: something changes, so little things. 144 00:06:56,505 --> 00:06:58,665 Speaker 5: Like friends don't regulate, problems, yeah, your whole. 145 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:01,945 Speaker 3: Lims don't regulate, and the way you view yourself. And 146 00:07:02,505 --> 00:07:06,705 Speaker 3: for me, I loved pregnancy, but changing so much was 147 00:07:06,825 --> 00:07:08,945 Speaker 3: very hard on me mentally. And there was little things 148 00:07:08,945 --> 00:07:10,705 Speaker 3: I always wanted to do, like change my teeth, and 149 00:07:10,745 --> 00:07:12,545 Speaker 3: I never had a chance because I was pregnant for 150 00:07:12,585 --> 00:07:15,025 Speaker 3: five years. So then I start doing these things for 151 00:07:15,065 --> 00:07:18,265 Speaker 3: myself and people are like, oh my god, she's unrecognizable. 152 00:07:18,265 --> 00:07:19,425 Speaker 3: I used to like her and don't like her. 153 00:07:19,585 --> 00:07:22,025 Speaker 2: I'm my guys, like, how many of us are recognizable 154 00:07:22,025 --> 00:07:24,305 Speaker 2: from who we are when we're eighteen or twenty. Literally, 155 00:07:24,745 --> 00:07:27,745 Speaker 2: I don't want to be I know, I'm way hotter 156 00:07:27,785 --> 00:07:28,865 Speaker 2: than I was when I was twenty. 157 00:07:28,985 --> 00:07:31,545 Speaker 3: I agree. I'm like, I'm way hotter now, I'm more confident, 158 00:07:31,545 --> 00:07:34,185 Speaker 3: and I'm paying time in too myself. It's the inside, 159 00:07:34,225 --> 00:07:36,865 Speaker 3: and I'm like, there's so many things that people wouldn't 160 00:07:36,865 --> 00:07:38,665 Speaker 3: really know about them. I'm like, the first time I 161 00:07:38,665 --> 00:07:40,985 Speaker 3: got lip filler was so I could smile with my 162 00:07:41,105 --> 00:07:43,345 Speaker 3: mouth shut because I hated my teeth so much. You know, 163 00:07:43,345 --> 00:07:45,705 Speaker 3: I would never show my teeth when I smiled, so 164 00:07:45,745 --> 00:07:47,465 Speaker 3: I changed my teeth and then people didn't like that. 165 00:07:47,625 --> 00:07:50,705 Speaker 3: And then after I breastped three kids, I changed my boobs. 166 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:52,985 Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh my god, you can't win. But 167 00:07:53,025 --> 00:07:55,825 Speaker 3: for me, I'm changing in real time so exactly, people 168 00:07:55,865 --> 00:07:58,865 Speaker 3: are just going to have a view on everything because 169 00:07:58,905 --> 00:07:59,825 Speaker 3: I'm allowing them. 170 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:03,145 Speaker 2: It's also because as a mother, you shouldn't be changing 171 00:08:03,185 --> 00:08:05,865 Speaker 2: these things, which is ridiculous because now that I'm thinking 172 00:08:05,905 --> 00:08:07,985 Speaker 2: about it, I would have gotten my boobs done at 173 00:08:07,985 --> 00:08:09,865 Speaker 2: the same age that you would have gotten yours done, 174 00:08:10,345 --> 00:08:11,945 Speaker 2: and no one ever had it. A few people had 175 00:08:11,945 --> 00:08:13,465 Speaker 2: something to say, but no one had anything to say 176 00:08:13,505 --> 00:08:16,105 Speaker 2: because I was just young and down in my twenties. 177 00:08:16,145 --> 00:08:18,545 Speaker 2: I wasn't a mom, so I was allowed to. But 178 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,465 Speaker 2: then it all of a sudden shifts as soon as 179 00:08:20,465 --> 00:08:23,505 Speaker 2: you're a mom, because it's seen as even worse. 180 00:08:23,825 --> 00:08:24,745 Speaker 3: I know, it's so weird. 181 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:27,785 Speaker 2: Why just because your mom doesn't mean you don't want 182 00:08:27,825 --> 00:08:28,985 Speaker 2: to do things totally. 183 00:08:29,105 --> 00:08:31,505 Speaker 3: People have this perception on mothers that they can't, you know, 184 00:08:31,745 --> 00:08:34,665 Speaker 3: focus on themselves. And you know, obviously your kids are 185 00:08:34,705 --> 00:08:37,185 Speaker 3: your main priority. But as soon as you start focusing 186 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:40,225 Speaker 3: on yourself and like leveling up or whatever they want 187 00:08:40,225 --> 00:08:42,865 Speaker 3: to call it, you know, glowing up, going to the gym, 188 00:08:42,985 --> 00:08:44,945 Speaker 3: focusing on your fitness, feeling good again, people like, I 189 00:08:44,945 --> 00:08:47,345 Speaker 3: don't like you. People love to see me struggling. And 190 00:08:47,385 --> 00:08:49,385 Speaker 3: that's the craziest thing about social media. 191 00:08:49,425 --> 00:08:49,825 Speaker 5: Awful. 192 00:08:49,905 --> 00:08:52,665 Speaker 3: But I think it's this world we've created because people 193 00:08:52,785 --> 00:08:55,785 Speaker 3: loved me when I was like sleep deprived, depressed, milk 194 00:08:55,905 --> 00:08:59,185 Speaker 3: leaking from on the internet literally and I didn't care 195 00:08:59,225 --> 00:09:01,745 Speaker 3: that I was. I knew that was a stage and 196 00:09:01,785 --> 00:09:03,625 Speaker 3: I'm in another stage now. But people are like, oh, 197 00:09:03,665 --> 00:09:06,545 Speaker 3: she's unrelatable. Why because I've just spent the last five years. 198 00:09:06,705 --> 00:09:09,345 Speaker 3: I'm still fucking sleep deprived, I'm still exhausted, I still 199 00:09:09,345 --> 00:09:12,585 Speaker 3: have con the patient. So I'm actually internally still the same, 200 00:09:12,585 --> 00:09:13,665 Speaker 3: but on the outside just. 201 00:09:13,665 --> 00:09:14,505 Speaker 5: A little bit shinier. 202 00:09:21,385 --> 00:09:24,745 Speaker 2: You've been teasing your hair transformation on social media for 203 00:09:24,825 --> 00:09:27,345 Speaker 2: months now. How does it feel to finally be able 204 00:09:27,385 --> 00:09:30,145 Speaker 2: to be like, this is what I've been doing because 205 00:09:30,385 --> 00:09:31,865 Speaker 2: there was a big difference, wasn't there? 206 00:09:32,025 --> 00:09:35,185 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a huge difference. So I first started 207 00:09:35,265 --> 00:09:38,025 Speaker 3: using Booth months and months ago. We know, I had 208 00:09:38,185 --> 00:09:39,985 Speaker 3: a lot of calls with the team, and we kind 209 00:09:39,985 --> 00:09:42,505 Speaker 3: of came to this agreement that I would not be 210 00:09:42,825 --> 00:09:46,105 Speaker 3: the face of the brand unless there was results because 211 00:09:46,105 --> 00:09:50,065 Speaker 3: I've built this platform and this incredible community of relatability 212 00:09:50,145 --> 00:09:53,305 Speaker 3: and trust, and I've always been transparent with brands, like 213 00:09:53,345 --> 00:09:55,505 Speaker 3: I will not work with brands, even to the point 214 00:09:55,545 --> 00:09:58,665 Speaker 3: where I'll sign off on a contract and then they'll 215 00:09:58,705 --> 00:10:01,225 Speaker 3: send me the brief and I'll be like, so are 216 00:10:01,265 --> 00:10:03,225 Speaker 3: you happy for me to do this in my own style? 217 00:10:03,305 --> 00:10:04,985 Speaker 3: And then you know they don't want that. I'm like, okay, 218 00:10:04,985 --> 00:10:06,585 Speaker 3: well we're going to have to forfeit this brand. And 219 00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:08,865 Speaker 3: that's tens and thousands of dollars that I'll just forfeit 220 00:10:08,905 --> 00:10:14,065 Speaker 3: because I'm so genuine on brand integrity with my followers, 221 00:10:14,065 --> 00:10:15,785 Speaker 3: I don't want them wasting money. 222 00:10:15,505 --> 00:10:18,105 Speaker 2: On Also, it doesn't like there's no point long term 223 00:10:18,105 --> 00:10:21,625 Speaker 2: for you exactly, wanto something that doesn't actually work. Plus 224 00:10:21,665 --> 00:10:24,225 Speaker 2: I think it would be really hard to hide, like 225 00:10:24,265 --> 00:10:26,265 Speaker 2: if something like right thick enough. 226 00:10:26,225 --> 00:10:29,425 Speaker 3: And then totally and then and even now like everybody's 227 00:10:29,425 --> 00:10:31,425 Speaker 3: starting to try the products, like check back in ninety 228 00:10:31,505 --> 00:10:34,065 Speaker 3: days and like how embarrassing because anyway, we'll get to 229 00:10:34,105 --> 00:10:36,185 Speaker 3: this in a second. But basically I met up with 230 00:10:36,225 --> 00:10:39,265 Speaker 3: the team and I agreed, you know, if the results work, 231 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:41,265 Speaker 3: I'm happy to be the ambassador. So I trial this 232 00:10:41,345 --> 00:10:44,185 Speaker 3: for months and months. I documented it. I did a 233 00:10:44,225 --> 00:10:46,465 Speaker 3: video diary, weekly check ins. 234 00:10:46,705 --> 00:10:47,905 Speaker 5: How did you remember to do that? 235 00:10:48,265 --> 00:10:50,465 Speaker 3: Oh? I had them on my back to way. I 236 00:10:50,625 --> 00:10:52,665 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god. And at the start, when 237 00:10:52,665 --> 00:10:54,865 Speaker 3: they first approached me, I was a little bit skeptical 238 00:10:54,985 --> 00:10:57,945 Speaker 3: because I am very what's the opposite of clean girl? 239 00:10:58,665 --> 00:11:00,465 Speaker 3: Not dirty? But you know what I mean, like type B. 240 00:11:00,745 --> 00:11:02,905 Speaker 3: I feel like a bit messy, a bit messy, but 241 00:11:02,945 --> 00:11:05,105 Speaker 3: like I don't try to be that's just me. I 242 00:11:05,265 --> 00:11:06,305 Speaker 3: just get like, I. 243 00:11:06,305 --> 00:11:10,745 Speaker 2: Don't know, oh yeah, like curated aesthetic, like yeah, bloody TV, 244 00:11:11,065 --> 00:11:12,825 Speaker 2: totally vitamins. 245 00:11:12,625 --> 00:11:14,945 Speaker 3: I know, so like I don't even take vitamins. I 246 00:11:14,985 --> 00:11:16,945 Speaker 3: don't even know how to curl my hair like I've 247 00:11:16,985 --> 00:11:19,545 Speaker 3: worked with a brand previously, right, it was like a 248 00:11:19,585 --> 00:11:21,545 Speaker 3: curling one thing and I did not know how to 249 00:11:21,545 --> 00:11:23,625 Speaker 3: do it. They gave me three weeks to practice how 250 00:11:23,625 --> 00:11:26,505 Speaker 3: to use it, and I was practicing every second day, 251 00:11:26,865 --> 00:11:28,545 Speaker 3: and then when I filmed the video and send it 252 00:11:28,585 --> 00:11:30,785 Speaker 3: to them, they still won't have the results. And I 253 00:11:30,825 --> 00:11:33,105 Speaker 3: was like, guy, I swear I did everything right. I 254 00:11:33,145 --> 00:11:35,465 Speaker 3: don't know how to do anything with my hair, as 255 00:11:35,465 --> 00:11:37,465 Speaker 3: well as doing eye lineup, but that's a different story. 256 00:11:37,705 --> 00:11:39,105 Speaker 3: So when they came to me and it was a 257 00:11:39,105 --> 00:11:40,985 Speaker 3: hair product, I was like, Oh, this is going to 258 00:11:41,065 --> 00:11:43,105 Speaker 3: be icky because I really hate anything to do with 259 00:11:43,105 --> 00:11:45,225 Speaker 3: my hair, and like, unless it's sea salt spray, I'm 260 00:11:45,225 --> 00:11:49,025 Speaker 3: not sold. So I started using it and documenting my progress, 261 00:11:49,265 --> 00:11:51,425 Speaker 3: and then at the start I was like, maybe this 262 00:11:51,465 --> 00:11:52,945 Speaker 3: is blasi, but like this is going to be a 263 00:11:53,065 --> 00:11:56,025 Speaker 3: long three months. Two weeks in and they got to 264 00:11:56,025 --> 00:11:58,025 Speaker 3: talk about four weeks and you can see all like 265 00:11:58,105 --> 00:12:01,865 Speaker 3: your hairs my hair before right postpartum. I always had 266 00:12:01,905 --> 00:12:04,465 Speaker 3: thin hair growing up. It was always a insecurity in 267 00:12:04,545 --> 00:12:05,985 Speaker 3: mind because I've got broad shoulders. 268 00:12:05,985 --> 00:12:08,745 Speaker 2: Manifest though, because I was reading that in the notes 269 00:12:08,745 --> 00:12:10,945 Speaker 2: and I was like, but how do you know did 270 00:12:10,985 --> 00:12:13,345 Speaker 2: someone once say to you you don't have very many 271 00:12:13,345 --> 00:12:14,225 Speaker 2: hairs on your head? 272 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:18,105 Speaker 3: No? No, I'll tell you how I knew another insecurity 273 00:12:18,145 --> 00:12:20,705 Speaker 3: that I might get fixed in the future. Shaved down 274 00:12:20,745 --> 00:12:25,865 Speaker 3: my shoulders. I'm kidding broad shoulders too, Okay, so this 275 00:12:25,905 --> 00:12:28,105 Speaker 3: is how I knew. Right, So I've grown up surfing. 276 00:12:27,865 --> 00:12:31,065 Speaker 2: Swimmers shoulders, shoulders, right, swimmers shoulders. 277 00:12:31,185 --> 00:12:33,705 Speaker 3: Yes, I know, it's such like a backhound of compliment. 278 00:12:33,745 --> 00:12:35,865 Speaker 3: I'm like, I would love to be built like a swimmer, 279 00:12:35,945 --> 00:12:38,225 Speaker 3: but like, you bring me down about my shoulders because 280 00:12:38,345 --> 00:12:40,705 Speaker 3: this is how cook society is, right. You can't even 281 00:12:40,705 --> 00:12:43,265 Speaker 3: be happy with how you were born based on your 282 00:12:43,305 --> 00:12:44,345 Speaker 3: fucking bone structure. 283 00:12:44,945 --> 00:12:48,185 Speaker 2: So basically Daily Mail is going to love that one 284 00:12:48,185 --> 00:12:51,025 Speaker 2: Indie wants to shave her shoulders down. 285 00:12:51,185 --> 00:12:52,905 Speaker 3: Which is so funny because I joke about it all 286 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:55,065 Speaker 3: the time at home. How I knew I had thin 287 00:12:55,145 --> 00:12:58,345 Speaker 3: hair was I've always had broad shoulders from surfing growing up, 288 00:12:58,425 --> 00:13:02,425 Speaker 3: and so me growing my hair, it made me think 289 00:13:02,625 --> 00:13:06,345 Speaker 3: having really long hair covered my shoulders. So like during 290 00:13:06,385 --> 00:13:09,265 Speaker 3: my teenage years, I would have really long hair because 291 00:13:09,505 --> 00:13:11,425 Speaker 3: I I thought I had this long hair that would 292 00:13:11,705 --> 00:13:14,305 Speaker 3: be thick and cover my shoulders. And then somebody once 293 00:13:14,345 --> 00:13:15,865 Speaker 3: took a photo of me from behind. I was like 294 00:13:15,905 --> 00:13:18,305 Speaker 3: having a shower after a surf, and I saw my 295 00:13:18,425 --> 00:13:20,265 Speaker 3: hair and it kind of just like went into this 296 00:13:20,505 --> 00:13:22,465 Speaker 3: string and I like zoomed in. I was like, oh, 297 00:13:22,505 --> 00:13:23,945 Speaker 3: what is that string on me? And it was my 298 00:13:24,025 --> 00:13:26,585 Speaker 3: hair that was all of it, So it kind of went, 299 00:13:26,585 --> 00:13:28,745 Speaker 3: you know, into your scalp and then this string, and 300 00:13:28,785 --> 00:13:31,425 Speaker 3: I was like, that is so embarrassing. And obviously doing 301 00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:34,065 Speaker 3: photo shoots and things and getting my hair done, people like, oh, wow, 302 00:13:34,105 --> 00:13:36,185 Speaker 3: you've got quite very fine hair, like you've got a 303 00:13:36,225 --> 00:13:39,225 Speaker 3: lot of pieces, but it's very thin and fine. I'm like, yeah, 304 00:13:40,025 --> 00:13:42,785 Speaker 3: there's another back kind of compliments so so much. 305 00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:46,185 Speaker 5: I had no idea. 306 00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:47,705 Speaker 3: Literally, so that's how I knew I've had thin hair, right, 307 00:13:48,185 --> 00:13:50,545 Speaker 3: So it was like the perfect alignment with BOOF when 308 00:13:50,585 --> 00:13:52,745 Speaker 3: they reached out after the product started working and I 309 00:13:52,745 --> 00:13:55,625 Speaker 3: started seeing results, I was like, oh wow, this is legit. 310 00:13:55,745 --> 00:13:58,305 Speaker 2: I don't know many people that don't have postpartum hair 311 00:13:58,345 --> 00:14:01,905 Speaker 2: loss or just thinning, Like you can't choose. 312 00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:04,145 Speaker 3: Where those sprouts come from, right, So I would have 313 00:14:04,225 --> 00:14:06,825 Speaker 3: sprouts here and then it would be just so awkward length. 314 00:14:06,905 --> 00:14:09,265 Speaker 3: You can't do anything like I've got photos and this 315 00:14:09,345 --> 00:14:12,025 Speaker 3: sprout to just sprouting and you can't even like comb 316 00:14:12,065 --> 00:14:14,425 Speaker 3: them down because they just I just sing. So I 317 00:14:14,505 --> 00:14:16,305 Speaker 3: remember going through a bit of a phase when I 318 00:14:16,305 --> 00:14:17,945 Speaker 3: would have to gel my hair and put it back 319 00:14:17,985 --> 00:14:20,105 Speaker 3: in a slick back bun because that's the only way 320 00:14:20,145 --> 00:14:23,185 Speaker 3: I could get the hairs all slick back. But now 321 00:14:23,345 --> 00:14:26,505 Speaker 3: I've been using booth. I ain't got no sprones I 322 00:14:26,505 --> 00:14:28,545 Speaker 3: got this is fresh out of the shower. I've done that. 323 00:14:28,585 --> 00:14:30,305 Speaker 3: I actually forgot to put my booth in. But you 324 00:14:30,345 --> 00:14:31,945 Speaker 3: can put it in dry all wet. But this is 325 00:14:32,185 --> 00:14:33,785 Speaker 3: no straight. Well I don't even own a straight now, 326 00:14:33,825 --> 00:14:36,945 Speaker 3: but this is like yeah for you. 327 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:40,185 Speaker 2: So you first worked with Rage, who's from TVA Skincare. 328 00:14:40,585 --> 00:14:41,945 Speaker 5: She's also behind both. 329 00:14:43,025 --> 00:14:45,345 Speaker 3: Well we say booth like your hair went boof. 330 00:14:45,545 --> 00:14:46,905 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah sounds good. 331 00:14:47,465 --> 00:14:49,345 Speaker 3: But like I never I'm such a people please, I 332 00:14:49,345 --> 00:14:51,265 Speaker 3: don't like correct say whatever you want. 333 00:14:52,385 --> 00:14:55,025 Speaker 2: So you first worked with her though about eighteen months 334 00:14:55,065 --> 00:14:57,465 Speaker 2: ago when you accident unreleased. 335 00:14:57,465 --> 00:14:59,145 Speaker 3: No, it was an accident. 336 00:14:59,305 --> 00:15:01,465 Speaker 5: This is this is marketing. 337 00:15:01,545 --> 00:15:03,825 Speaker 3: This is what people say all the time. Because I've 338 00:15:03,825 --> 00:15:06,545 Speaker 3: been seeing all these comments all across social media about 339 00:15:06,705 --> 00:15:08,865 Speaker 3: the lack of transparency and blah blah bah booth and 340 00:15:08,905 --> 00:15:13,705 Speaker 3: all of that. This was an accident, but the marketing, 341 00:15:13,825 --> 00:15:16,065 Speaker 3: that's what everybody thinks. So they sent me the product 342 00:15:16,145 --> 00:15:19,305 Speaker 3: and I get so many right, which is so funny 343 00:15:19,305 --> 00:15:20,105 Speaker 3: because a. 344 00:15:20,145 --> 00:15:23,265 Speaker 5: Test to me accidentally posting about something before. 345 00:15:23,785 --> 00:15:29,625 Speaker 3: Really exactly so you know how well now the brand's 346 00:15:29,665 --> 00:15:32,265 Speaker 3: all right, these pieces of paper for me, and then 347 00:15:32,345 --> 00:15:37,585 Speaker 3: you see it in red capital embargo or confidentiality. But 348 00:15:37,665 --> 00:15:40,265 Speaker 3: like I guess, when I received packages, I'm always bloody 349 00:15:40,305 --> 00:15:44,585 Speaker 3: Russian pulling them out. Well, yeah, all my kids do 350 00:15:44,665 --> 00:15:46,945 Speaker 3: so a lot of the time. My packages are opened. 351 00:15:46,945 --> 00:15:49,745 Speaker 3: When I get home, Ben's already taken all the things 352 00:15:49,785 --> 00:15:51,585 Speaker 3: out to the rubbish and I just have the product. 353 00:15:51,865 --> 00:15:53,705 Speaker 3: So I get back from Taylor Swift. I was so 354 00:15:53,825 --> 00:15:56,105 Speaker 3: drunk at Taylor Swift that night or the night before, 355 00:15:56,545 --> 00:15:58,145 Speaker 3: the drunkest I'd ever been. I think it was like 356 00:15:58,905 --> 00:16:00,825 Speaker 3: I had was breastfeeding band, but it was the first 357 00:16:00,865 --> 00:16:03,425 Speaker 3: time I'd stopped breastfeeding. I was out for the night. 358 00:16:03,505 --> 00:16:05,225 Speaker 3: I was so excited. I was with my mum friends 359 00:16:05,385 --> 00:16:07,545 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, Sleigh. Like I remember, I was swaying at 360 00:16:07,545 --> 00:16:10,465 Speaker 3: this concert, so I get back full from my makeup 361 00:16:10,625 --> 00:16:14,185 Speaker 3: as you do, right, and I have this product. Of course, 362 00:16:14,225 --> 00:16:16,185 Speaker 3: I didn't have any makeup wipes, and I'm like, oh, 363 00:16:16,465 --> 00:16:19,385 Speaker 3: jelly cleanser post my morning vlogs all the time, so 364 00:16:19,425 --> 00:16:23,225 Speaker 3: it wasn't anything different. I'm just using this and I 365 00:16:23,225 --> 00:16:24,865 Speaker 3: was just kind of like, oh, yeah, this jelly cleanser 366 00:16:24,905 --> 00:16:27,225 Speaker 3: because every product I ever use, people are always like 367 00:16:27,225 --> 00:16:30,425 Speaker 3: what are you using? Saves me scrolling through the comments. 368 00:16:30,825 --> 00:16:33,065 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it went viral. Well, I don't want 369 00:16:33,105 --> 00:16:35,585 Speaker 3: to claim that. I don't want to claim it, but 370 00:16:35,745 --> 00:16:38,585 Speaker 3: like it went viral because I had seen the videos 371 00:16:38,585 --> 00:16:40,585 Speaker 3: and then they were very smart in their marketing how 372 00:16:40,625 --> 00:16:44,465 Speaker 3: they are so yeah, right, she's a little genius genius 373 00:16:44,465 --> 00:16:45,705 Speaker 3: at marketing, which. 374 00:16:45,625 --> 00:16:48,425 Speaker 2: Is why it's a compliment to her. But then I guess, yeah, 375 00:16:48,425 --> 00:16:49,665 Speaker 2: it's got repercussions for you. 376 00:16:49,745 --> 00:16:53,905 Speaker 3: That exactly I thought it was like. And then now 377 00:16:53,985 --> 00:16:56,105 Speaker 3: I see that play on to now with booth because 378 00:16:56,105 --> 00:16:59,145 Speaker 3: people like, no, it's a lie, like that was. I'm like, 379 00:16:59,185 --> 00:16:59,945 Speaker 3: how do you know this? 380 00:17:00,225 --> 00:17:02,065 Speaker 5: And you're also like how can I be more clear? 381 00:17:02,265 --> 00:17:05,105 Speaker 3: Literally, and like why are you spreading this without facts? 382 00:17:05,145 --> 00:17:05,985 Speaker 3: Like shut up? 383 00:17:06,545 --> 00:17:08,185 Speaker 5: It's in No one needs facts. 384 00:17:08,425 --> 00:17:11,145 Speaker 3: Literally, so yeah, yeah, she is a marketing genius. And 385 00:17:11,185 --> 00:17:14,105 Speaker 3: even the way they marketed the product after that, and 386 00:17:14,145 --> 00:17:16,905 Speaker 3: they use like my comments and made videos, it was 387 00:17:16,985 --> 00:17:17,945 Speaker 3: very smart. 388 00:17:17,785 --> 00:17:18,585 Speaker 5: Very smart. 389 00:17:18,785 --> 00:17:20,905 Speaker 2: Once you got you realize that the product worked, I'm 390 00:17:20,905 --> 00:17:22,985 Speaker 2: sure that you were like, yes, sign me up, because yeah, 391 00:17:22,985 --> 00:17:23,945 Speaker 2: you're a marketing genius. 392 00:17:23,985 --> 00:17:25,385 Speaker 5: I love the product to let us do this. 393 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,905 Speaker 3: Yes one percent. And they're so amazing, those girls in 394 00:17:27,945 --> 00:17:31,505 Speaker 3: the office. Oh my gosh, it's so amazing, the whole team. 395 00:17:31,625 --> 00:17:33,345 Speaker 3: I was saying to them, it's so cool for me 396 00:17:33,385 --> 00:17:36,465 Speaker 3: because Rachel and I are the same age. She's twenty seven, 397 00:17:36,505 --> 00:17:39,425 Speaker 3: I'm twenty seven. Our lives couldn't be more different. But 398 00:17:39,505 --> 00:17:43,825 Speaker 3: it's so nice and inspiring for me to go into 399 00:17:43,865 --> 00:17:46,425 Speaker 3: an office with other women, you know, around my age 400 00:17:46,425 --> 00:17:47,985 Speaker 3: and like my life. I'm like, I feel like I'm 401 00:17:47,985 --> 00:17:51,225 Speaker 3: just like drowning with children around me always just like 402 00:17:51,265 --> 00:17:54,585 Speaker 3: a kindy drop off or the doctors getting antibiotics dealing 403 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:56,625 Speaker 3: with impetigo. And then I go in there and there's 404 00:17:56,665 --> 00:17:59,985 Speaker 3: these boss ass bitches like creating. 405 00:17:59,505 --> 00:18:02,465 Speaker 5: Product, having fun, and. 406 00:18:02,105 --> 00:18:05,505 Speaker 3: Women supporting women. And I think after this whole trolling 407 00:18:05,665 --> 00:18:07,905 Speaker 3: internet thing went on these last few months, it was 408 00:18:08,025 --> 00:18:10,545 Speaker 3: very apparent to me. I'm like, wow, that's just a 409 00:18:10,585 --> 00:18:12,505 Speaker 3: small minority on the internet. 410 00:18:12,265 --> 00:18:14,785 Speaker 2: For someone trying your range for the first time. What 411 00:18:14,945 --> 00:18:17,105 Speaker 2: product do you think that they should start with? And 412 00:18:17,185 --> 00:18:18,465 Speaker 2: white like, what's your favorite? 413 00:18:18,545 --> 00:18:22,105 Speaker 3: My favorite would probably be the Tonic. That's the one 414 00:18:22,185 --> 00:18:24,665 Speaker 3: I use consecutively for five I mean it's probably going 415 00:18:24,745 --> 00:18:26,385 Speaker 3: on six months so recently. 416 00:18:26,425 --> 00:18:28,145 Speaker 5: I'm your husband's here, Oh. 417 00:18:28,105 --> 00:18:30,025 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he started using it too. He does. 418 00:18:30,065 --> 00:18:31,665 Speaker 5: They don't like to admit that they start thinning. 419 00:18:31,825 --> 00:18:33,465 Speaker 3: No, I know. He's been telling me for years that 420 00:18:33,505 --> 00:18:37,105 Speaker 3: it's just his hairlight. And then after coming to with 421 00:18:37,225 --> 00:18:39,745 Speaker 3: Rach and the team and then meeting with the scientists, 422 00:18:40,065 --> 00:18:42,585 Speaker 3: he was like, no, that's called a receding hairline. I 423 00:18:42,585 --> 00:18:44,265 Speaker 3: was like, oh, he told me he was born like this, 424 00:18:44,465 --> 00:18:45,785 Speaker 3: Like that's so funny. 425 00:18:45,505 --> 00:18:49,425 Speaker 2: And you pull photos when he was twenty Gero's hairline. 426 00:18:49,745 --> 00:18:51,905 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, you were in denial and 427 00:18:51,945 --> 00:18:54,345 Speaker 3: you fooled me. So we're both in denial. So anyway, 428 00:18:54,345 --> 00:18:56,505 Speaker 3: he started using it, but I've been using it for 429 00:18:56,665 --> 00:18:58,585 Speaker 3: I'm still using it because I guess it's just part 430 00:18:58,585 --> 00:19:01,225 Speaker 3: of a routine, Like I have no other routine other 431 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:03,545 Speaker 3: than like my kids sleep, routine, but like then using 432 00:19:03,545 --> 00:19:06,185 Speaker 3: this tonic. The Tonic is the number one product. 433 00:19:06,225 --> 00:19:08,745 Speaker 5: It's affordable as well. Everything in the range is, which 434 00:19:08,785 --> 00:19:09,345 Speaker 5: is so good. 435 00:19:09,825 --> 00:19:12,705 Speaker 3: It's super affordable and it's super easy. Like I have 436 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:16,065 Speaker 3: a phobia of greasy hair. Yes, so random? 437 00:19:16,145 --> 00:19:18,185 Speaker 2: Right, No, no, no, because especially when you're a mum, you 438 00:19:18,225 --> 00:19:19,865 Speaker 2: don't want to wake up and be like, oh my god, 439 00:19:19,865 --> 00:19:21,025 Speaker 2: I've got to wash my hair again. 440 00:19:21,185 --> 00:19:24,185 Speaker 3: I know, And I think my phobia started because I've 441 00:19:24,185 --> 00:19:27,345 Speaker 3: always had thin hair. When my hair was greasy, it 442 00:19:27,385 --> 00:19:29,585 Speaker 3: would look even thinner. So what's that two strands left? 443 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:31,145 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So I've always had a 444 00:19:31,185 --> 00:19:34,425 Speaker 3: phobia of greasy hair. So when they agreed, came to me, oh, 445 00:19:34,425 --> 00:19:36,265 Speaker 3: it's just the worst. So when they came to me, 446 00:19:36,305 --> 00:19:38,545 Speaker 3: I was very skeptical about whether it was going to 447 00:19:38,585 --> 00:19:39,985 Speaker 3: make my hair oily because you have to put in 448 00:19:40,025 --> 00:19:41,505 Speaker 3: your hair twice a day, and I was like, well, 449 00:19:41,505 --> 00:19:43,345 Speaker 3: I've had to put in twice a day, is it oily? 450 00:19:43,425 --> 00:19:45,665 Speaker 3: Because I can't I can't get used to these slickmack 451 00:19:45,745 --> 00:19:48,105 Speaker 3: buns and I'll get a receding hairline and I'm just 452 00:19:48,185 --> 00:19:50,625 Speaker 3: not about it. So it's not oily, it's kind of 453 00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,465 Speaker 3: like the consistency of water. But I also use that 454 00:19:53,505 --> 00:19:56,105 Speaker 3: in conjunction with the shampoo conditioner. But obviously you're not 455 00:19:56,185 --> 00:19:58,585 Speaker 3: washing your hair every single day, so it has the 456 00:19:58,625 --> 00:20:02,305 Speaker 3: same ingredients in it. But you know some people only 457 00:20:02,385 --> 00:20:04,505 Speaker 3: wash their hair once a week, some people only really 458 00:20:04,585 --> 00:20:07,225 Speaker 3: wash their hair. Well, for me, I guess I'm twice 459 00:20:07,225 --> 00:20:08,785 Speaker 3: a week. But you know you're putting the serum in 460 00:20:08,825 --> 00:20:11,305 Speaker 3: every day twice a day, so that would be my 461 00:20:11,385 --> 00:20:14,225 Speaker 3: number one. But then I also loved the shampoo condition 462 00:20:14,305 --> 00:20:16,105 Speaker 3: I still use it. I've just run out of the 463 00:20:16,105 --> 00:20:18,425 Speaker 3: travel pack because they also do these little small ones 464 00:20:18,465 --> 00:20:19,345 Speaker 3: but are really cute. 465 00:20:27,985 --> 00:20:30,225 Speaker 6: I mean, what is your self carero To give us 466 00:20:30,225 --> 00:20:36,825 Speaker 6: the dirty detail, Let's get into your routine apart from hair, 467 00:20:37,225 --> 00:20:39,425 Speaker 6: if you've even got one, I imagine that you don't 468 00:20:39,465 --> 00:20:40,385 Speaker 6: have that much time. 469 00:20:40,585 --> 00:20:43,345 Speaker 2: You're probably not at home doing his ten step skincare routine. 470 00:20:44,145 --> 00:20:48,385 Speaker 2: But if you are doing any skincare or applying makeup 471 00:20:48,505 --> 00:20:49,745 Speaker 2: every day, what are you doing? 472 00:20:50,065 --> 00:20:53,985 Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't have an everyday routine? 473 00:20:54,385 --> 00:20:57,265 Speaker 5: Is it just whatever pr package is open, you go. 474 00:20:57,585 --> 00:21:00,105 Speaker 3: That'll do what. I'm gonna wack that on, literally, But 475 00:21:00,225 --> 00:21:02,265 Speaker 3: it's not even that I don't even wash. I actually 476 00:21:02,465 --> 00:21:04,905 Speaker 3: took photos this morning of some of the products I 477 00:21:04,945 --> 00:21:06,745 Speaker 3: use because I actually have no idea, like I don't 478 00:21:06,825 --> 00:21:08,345 Speaker 3: use them every day, but I didn't want to sound 479 00:21:08,385 --> 00:21:10,705 Speaker 3: like an idiot coming on Lime Mac another brand, but 480 00:21:10,825 --> 00:21:13,345 Speaker 3: like truly don't know them. I'll actually read you this 481 00:21:13,425 --> 00:21:18,305 Speaker 3: product that I use every day, Beauty of Johansson Johnson. 482 00:21:18,385 --> 00:21:21,385 Speaker 3: I think it was a blurry picture. Yeah, but it's 483 00:21:21,425 --> 00:21:23,345 Speaker 3: like this koreing in and my best friend bought me 484 00:21:23,345 --> 00:21:25,545 Speaker 3: all this Korean skincare and I use that. 485 00:21:25,865 --> 00:21:28,385 Speaker 5: Yeah, but is that like a crane like a moisturizer. 486 00:21:28,585 --> 00:21:29,505 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. 487 00:21:29,625 --> 00:21:30,985 Speaker 5: Do you use it as a moisturizer? 488 00:21:31,425 --> 00:21:34,345 Speaker 3: Yeah, but not at nighttime? Like okay, So basically I 489 00:21:34,425 --> 00:21:37,345 Speaker 3: let me just running through. So yesterday, for example, I 490 00:21:37,385 --> 00:21:39,625 Speaker 3: didn't wash my face or anything, and I just put 491 00:21:39,625 --> 00:21:42,945 Speaker 3: some concealer on, fluffed up my brows, put some blush 492 00:21:42,985 --> 00:21:46,625 Speaker 3: on and some stick ontour. That's the one. And that's 493 00:21:46,665 --> 00:21:49,825 Speaker 3: kind of like my go to every day type and makeup. 494 00:21:50,225 --> 00:21:52,545 Speaker 3: Not every day actually, but if I want to look presentable. 495 00:21:52,665 --> 00:21:55,585 Speaker 3: But then I didn't actually wash it off last night 496 00:21:55,625 --> 00:21:58,025 Speaker 3: now I think of it. So I fell asleep like that, 497 00:21:58,745 --> 00:22:01,425 Speaker 3: and then I knew I had this podcast today. Oh 498 00:22:01,465 --> 00:22:03,025 Speaker 3: that's right. I fell asleep because I was gonna work 499 00:22:03,065 --> 00:22:04,185 Speaker 3: out in the morning. I was like, I'll have a 500 00:22:04,185 --> 00:22:06,905 Speaker 3: shower in the morning and I'll wash my face. Disgusting, 501 00:22:06,945 --> 00:22:09,305 Speaker 3: I know, but this is my skincare routine. And then 502 00:22:09,305 --> 00:22:10,865 Speaker 3: I didn't work out, but I knew I was coming 503 00:22:10,865 --> 00:22:12,585 Speaker 3: on this podcast. I was like, I better have a 504 00:22:12,625 --> 00:22:15,745 Speaker 3: shower and wash my face and wash off yesterday's makeup. 505 00:22:16,105 --> 00:22:18,745 Speaker 3: So I just use kind of like an exfoliator. I 506 00:22:18,785 --> 00:22:20,825 Speaker 3: don't use like a face wash. I just use exfoliator. 507 00:22:20,825 --> 00:22:22,145 Speaker 3: Probably not good, fuse skin barrier. 508 00:22:22,465 --> 00:22:24,465 Speaker 5: I mean, your skin's not cranky, so it's fine. 509 00:22:24,585 --> 00:22:27,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well, so I just exfoliate my face and 510 00:22:27,145 --> 00:22:29,825 Speaker 3: then put some moisturizer on and some under I cream. 511 00:22:29,865 --> 00:22:32,385 Speaker 3: I carry under I cream everywhere with me, and then 512 00:22:32,705 --> 00:22:35,705 Speaker 3: Bob your uncle and did your makeup when I was driving. Yeah, 513 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:37,905 Speaker 3: But then like if I want to take my makeup off, 514 00:22:38,145 --> 00:22:41,225 Speaker 3: I'll just use like the jelly cleanser and some wipes, 515 00:22:41,265 --> 00:22:43,545 Speaker 3: and then I'll just put the exfoliator on top, you 516 00:22:43,585 --> 00:22:44,785 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like I'll then I'll use the 517 00:22:44,785 --> 00:22:49,025 Speaker 3: exfoliator again. Yep, double exfoliate and then just some Joe 518 00:22:49,065 --> 00:22:52,865 Speaker 3: Handsome whatever it is, whatever that is that But if 519 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:55,985 Speaker 3: I'm feeling really good and really into my routine, I'll 520 00:22:55,985 --> 00:22:58,465 Speaker 3: even use like a linege lip mask and I'll put 521 00:22:58,505 --> 00:23:00,585 Speaker 3: some under my eye at nighttime to hold lock in 522 00:23:00,625 --> 00:23:03,225 Speaker 3: the moisture. Yeah, Bob's your uncle. I kind of just 523 00:23:03,305 --> 00:23:04,065 Speaker 3: use what sent me. 524 00:23:04,265 --> 00:23:06,145 Speaker 5: That's not like you don't need to you're not into it. 525 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:08,065 Speaker 5: I think it, well, I am into it. 526 00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:11,065 Speaker 3: I just need somebody to trying to be like this 527 00:23:11,145 --> 00:23:13,705 Speaker 3: is life changing, this is incredible. 528 00:23:13,265 --> 00:23:15,225 Speaker 5: Which your friend did with the Josson. 529 00:23:15,385 --> 00:23:18,185 Speaker 3: Do you know what my tip is like, less is more? Yeah, 530 00:23:18,225 --> 00:23:19,905 Speaker 3: and I don't try and do less is more. I 531 00:23:19,985 --> 00:23:22,545 Speaker 3: just have lack of time, so less is really more 532 00:23:22,585 --> 00:23:25,505 Speaker 3: for me. Yeah. But then sometimes I'm like, I just 533 00:23:25,545 --> 00:23:27,385 Speaker 3: want somebody to tell me, like, what is the number 534 00:23:27,385 --> 00:23:28,665 Speaker 3: one facial everyone is getting? 535 00:23:28,705 --> 00:23:30,945 Speaker 2: But it doesn't exist because still for every people, like 536 00:23:31,065 --> 00:23:32,985 Speaker 2: the perfect facial for you would be very different to 537 00:23:33,065 --> 00:23:34,265 Speaker 2: me because we have different skins. 538 00:23:34,585 --> 00:23:38,905 Speaker 5: True, hit, you've made one of the greatest discoveries of 539 00:23:38,945 --> 00:23:42,825 Speaker 5: all time or miss never again never? 540 00:23:43,545 --> 00:23:47,345 Speaker 2: What is one skincare, hair care or ingredient or something 541 00:23:47,385 --> 00:23:50,705 Speaker 2: that you see online that just makes you go, oh, 542 00:23:50,745 --> 00:23:53,585 Speaker 2: for goodness sake, like makes you roll your eyes a 543 00:23:53,625 --> 00:23:55,065 Speaker 2: little bit that you see people talk about. 544 00:23:55,385 --> 00:23:58,825 Speaker 3: I love the idea of beauty and like getting into 545 00:23:58,945 --> 00:24:01,705 Speaker 3: beauty and I love being on beauty talk, but sometimes 546 00:24:01,745 --> 00:24:05,105 Speaker 3: it overwhelms me because I'm like, how are we remembering 547 00:24:05,145 --> 00:24:05,585 Speaker 3: to do this? 548 00:24:06,025 --> 00:24:07,025 Speaker 5: The twenty one step skin? 549 00:24:07,305 --> 00:24:09,665 Speaker 3: How do you have time? Do you think that many products? Really? 550 00:24:10,745 --> 00:24:10,825 Speaker 1: Like? 551 00:24:11,225 --> 00:24:12,825 Speaker 3: I don't know? And then all I think about is like, 552 00:24:13,065 --> 00:24:15,025 Speaker 3: how do you travel into state with these products? If 553 00:24:15,025 --> 00:24:16,825 Speaker 3: you don't check in? Do you know what I mean? Like? 554 00:24:16,865 --> 00:24:18,545 Speaker 3: How do you carry on with over one hundred meals? 555 00:24:18,545 --> 00:24:20,105 Speaker 3: That's the first thing that actually comes to my mind. 556 00:24:20,145 --> 00:24:21,945 Speaker 3: You know, I've never been able to get around lip oil. 557 00:24:22,105 --> 00:24:24,585 Speaker 3: That annoys me because I'm like ill. But maybe it's 558 00:24:24,585 --> 00:24:27,225 Speaker 3: my phobia of grease because I'm like ill, I want 559 00:24:27,225 --> 00:24:29,825 Speaker 3: oil on your lips, yes, like I hate oily fingers. 560 00:24:29,905 --> 00:24:31,465 Speaker 5: I just don't like really hair. 561 00:24:31,545 --> 00:24:33,185 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I just can't get around lip oil. 562 00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:35,105 Speaker 2: What's something that you see a lot of people doing 563 00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:36,585 Speaker 2: that you absolutely love? 564 00:24:36,905 --> 00:24:38,985 Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm probably late to the trend, but I 565 00:24:39,025 --> 00:24:42,705 Speaker 3: love fake freckles now oh cute? Yes, I did it 566 00:24:42,745 --> 00:24:44,345 Speaker 3: in the car, and I was just stabbing. But then 567 00:24:44,465 --> 00:24:48,945 Speaker 3: sometimes when I'm not concentrating, which is most times, dab 568 00:24:49,025 --> 00:24:52,105 Speaker 3: them like yes, say, it looked like I had pigmentation 569 00:24:52,185 --> 00:24:54,545 Speaker 3: instead of freckles because I dad them and then I 570 00:24:54,585 --> 00:24:56,745 Speaker 3: did too many, so they all kind of joined together, 571 00:24:57,225 --> 00:24:58,865 Speaker 3: and then it kind of just looked like I had 572 00:24:58,905 --> 00:25:02,065 Speaker 3: all this like hyperpigmentation across my nose. 573 00:25:01,945 --> 00:25:02,425 Speaker 5: Which isn't. 574 00:25:02,425 --> 00:25:03,265 Speaker 1: The vibe was. 575 00:25:04,745 --> 00:25:05,265 Speaker 3: Totally. 576 00:25:05,705 --> 00:25:08,785 Speaker 2: We are so appreciative of you giving us your time. 577 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:11,105 Speaker 2: We know how busy, so thank you. 578 00:25:11,025 --> 00:25:13,025 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me well. 579 00:25:13,065 --> 00:25:16,465 Speaker 4: We can't thank India enough for sharing her time with 580 00:25:16,585 --> 00:25:20,105 Speaker 4: us and her journey and for being so open about 581 00:25:20,225 --> 00:25:21,345 Speaker 4: so many different things. 582 00:25:21,665 --> 00:25:24,025 Speaker 1: If you loved this episode, be sure to check us. 583 00:25:23,945 --> 00:25:26,985 Speaker 4: Out on Instagram at You Beauty Podcast, have a scroll 584 00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:29,825 Speaker 4: through our YouTube channel, and subscribe to our beauty newsletter. 585 00:25:30,145 --> 00:25:32,345 Speaker 1: You'll find all the links in the show notes. 586 00:25:32,785 --> 00:25:35,625 Speaker 4: This episode of You Beauty was produced by Molly Harwood 587 00:25:35,665 --> 00:25:39,185 Speaker 4: and Sophie Campbell. 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