1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia Podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,385 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,585 --> 00:00:23,025 Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy in love. 5 00:00:23,305 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty body. Hello 6 00:00:30,025 --> 00:00:32,865 Speaker 2: and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face. 7 00:00:32,945 --> 00:00:36,305 Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly mccaren and Kelly McCarran. We 8 00:00:36,345 --> 00:00:38,225 Speaker 2: working into it. But if you've had quidem. 9 00:00:38,265 --> 00:00:39,705 Speaker 1: I have had quiet and morning. 10 00:00:40,105 --> 00:00:42,745 Speaker 3: There's nothing quite like starting your day and living an 11 00:00:42,905 --> 00:00:44,905 Speaker 3: entire life before nine am. 12 00:00:45,025 --> 00:00:47,145 Speaker 2: And the good thing is from nine am. Our job 13 00:00:47,225 --> 00:00:48,505 Speaker 2: is to talk about makeup. 14 00:00:48,305 --> 00:00:52,385 Speaker 3: And into glorious hacks and products, and on Mondays we 15 00:00:52,425 --> 00:00:53,185 Speaker 3: answer questions. 16 00:00:53,265 --> 00:00:55,345 Speaker 2: We do so you can send us your question. You 17 00:00:55,385 --> 00:00:58,025 Speaker 2: can email it at you Beauty Podcast at Mamma mea 18 00:00:58,105 --> 00:01:01,545 Speaker 2: dot com dodau. I got that right, yay, But you 19 00:01:01,585 --> 00:01:04,865 Speaker 2: know what, just dm us on Instagram. It's twenty twenty five. 20 00:01:05,105 --> 00:01:07,345 Speaker 2: So we've got two wonderful questions. 21 00:01:07,545 --> 00:01:09,145 Speaker 1: We sure do so. 22 00:01:09,265 --> 00:01:11,825 Speaker 3: Later on the episode, we've got a question about Ams 23 00:01:11,865 --> 00:01:13,585 Speaker 3: skincare for our sweat lovers. 24 00:01:14,065 --> 00:01:18,865 Speaker 1: But first Matilda has asked help. I've got really bad split. 25 00:01:18,625 --> 00:01:21,945 Speaker 3: Ends from using bond building hair products consistently. Why does 26 00:01:21,985 --> 00:01:24,145 Speaker 3: it feel like it's actually made my hair so bad? 27 00:01:24,265 --> 00:01:26,025 Speaker 3: Isn't this supposed to be helping my hair? 28 00:01:26,465 --> 00:01:26,825 Speaker 1: Oh? 29 00:01:26,865 --> 00:01:29,985 Speaker 2: I love this question and preach I agree. I go 30 00:01:30,065 --> 00:01:34,545 Speaker 2: through that at home myself. So think of it like, okay, 31 00:01:34,705 --> 00:01:37,385 Speaker 2: say in your diet, and I'm not giving a diet advice. 32 00:01:37,425 --> 00:01:40,025 Speaker 2: It's say, all you do is eat protein, right, and 33 00:01:40,065 --> 00:01:43,505 Speaker 2: you don't have the fiber. Yeah, well you're a vegetarian, 34 00:01:43,785 --> 00:01:45,585 Speaker 2: but you eat so much meat, meat, meat, and you 35 00:01:45,665 --> 00:01:49,465 Speaker 2: kind of get constipated and you can't poop. It's kind 36 00:01:49,545 --> 00:01:53,025 Speaker 2: of like that for your hair because you also need 37 00:01:53,265 --> 00:01:55,545 Speaker 2: the fiber, which you know, the hydration is the fiber. 38 00:01:55,625 --> 00:01:59,505 Speaker 2: Because what the bond repair does is there's your cortex 39 00:01:59,545 --> 00:02:01,625 Speaker 2: of your strand, and then there's sort of the cuticle, 40 00:02:01,625 --> 00:02:03,985 Speaker 2: which is the outside stuff. So it's kind of going 41 00:02:04,025 --> 00:02:08,505 Speaker 2: in and like really strengthening, but it's not soft. It's 42 00:02:08,625 --> 00:02:12,585 Speaker 2: like rendering a wall and then just leaving it all rendered. 43 00:02:12,625 --> 00:02:14,425 Speaker 2: You've got to then like sand it and paint it. 44 00:02:14,545 --> 00:02:15,185 Speaker 2: The hydration. 45 00:02:15,585 --> 00:02:17,625 Speaker 1: I actually think that this is a great analogy. 46 00:02:17,705 --> 00:02:19,985 Speaker 2: Well, there was a diet one and a renovation one. 47 00:02:20,225 --> 00:02:22,945 Speaker 2: So it depends firstly, on the condition of your hair, 48 00:02:23,105 --> 00:02:26,945 Speaker 2: and then how often you use these products. So you know, 49 00:02:26,945 --> 00:02:29,585 Speaker 2: if you've got beautiful virgin hair that's never been dyed 50 00:02:29,625 --> 00:02:33,385 Speaker 2: and is really heat styled, you probably don't need it. 51 00:02:33,425 --> 00:02:36,625 Speaker 2: The damage isn't enough. If you peroxide blonde your hair 52 00:02:36,705 --> 00:02:40,465 Speaker 2: all the time, you should use these, but still sparingly. 53 00:02:40,625 --> 00:02:42,825 Speaker 2: And then there's different types. There's ones you leave in 54 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:44,905 Speaker 2: you know that are a styling treatment. There's masks that 55 00:02:44,945 --> 00:02:47,225 Speaker 2: you wash out. But what they're doing is they're going 56 00:02:47,225 --> 00:02:49,785 Speaker 2: in to make things so strong that they're kind of like, 57 00:02:50,545 --> 00:02:54,305 Speaker 2: I'm strong, whereas then the moisture is to come and go, ah, 58 00:02:54,585 --> 00:02:57,705 Speaker 2: I am soft and shiny. 59 00:02:58,145 --> 00:03:00,945 Speaker 1: Yeah, did not make any sense, you know what? 60 00:03:01,025 --> 00:03:04,345 Speaker 2: Aaron wrote an article not too long ago that much 61 00:03:04,425 --> 00:03:08,985 Speaker 2: more eloquently explains how bond products work. And you'll see 62 00:03:08,985 --> 00:03:10,985 Speaker 2: the word play used for a lot of bond repair 63 00:03:11,065 --> 00:03:15,265 Speaker 2: so ola plex nanoplex, nanoplex exactly. So we'll link to 64 00:03:15,305 --> 00:03:17,825 Speaker 2: that in the show notes. But it's not more is better, 65 00:03:18,265 --> 00:03:20,785 Speaker 2: as with pretty much anything, and you can think it's 66 00:03:20,785 --> 00:03:21,745 Speaker 2: a great analogy. 67 00:03:21,825 --> 00:03:26,305 Speaker 3: You can't just eat protein, yeah, you can't just feel gross. 68 00:03:26,585 --> 00:03:28,345 Speaker 2: So if you do too much of a good thing, 69 00:03:28,385 --> 00:03:30,305 Speaker 2: you know, if you use way too much retinol, you're 70 00:03:30,305 --> 00:03:32,545 Speaker 2: gonna damage your skin barrier. If you use too much 71 00:03:32,585 --> 00:03:35,025 Speaker 2: bond repair or essentially this is protein for your hair, 72 00:03:35,385 --> 00:03:38,345 Speaker 2: your hair will feel strawy and like it's gonna break, 73 00:03:38,345 --> 00:03:42,185 Speaker 2: and you're like, hang on, aren't I trying to reverse that? 74 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:42,705 Speaker 1: Exactly? 75 00:03:43,225 --> 00:03:46,825 Speaker 2: So you've got to use them cautiously and really kind 76 00:03:46,825 --> 00:03:49,865 Speaker 2: of sparingly once a week once, Like for me that 77 00:03:49,905 --> 00:03:52,865 Speaker 2: would be too much because I've got dark hair and 78 00:03:52,905 --> 00:03:54,585 Speaker 2: it's quite short. I mean it's I haven't had a 79 00:03:54,625 --> 00:03:56,585 Speaker 2: cut for six months, so the ends are quite damaged. 80 00:03:56,705 --> 00:03:59,305 Speaker 2: I have been using a few products and I'll go 81 00:03:59,345 --> 00:04:02,185 Speaker 2: into my favorites in a moment, but the damage is 82 00:04:02,265 --> 00:04:04,705 Speaker 2: really sort of these last few centimeters, so I only 83 00:04:04,785 --> 00:04:06,825 Speaker 2: put it there. I don't need it all over because 84 00:04:06,825 --> 00:04:10,025 Speaker 2: I'm not getting lightning from the top and I mostly 85 00:04:10,105 --> 00:04:13,505 Speaker 2: air dry, whereas you are blonde, so you probably need 86 00:04:13,625 --> 00:04:17,145 Speaker 2: it is damned like from the roots, right exactly. 87 00:04:17,385 --> 00:04:20,105 Speaker 3: Yes, And I also just find, especially at this time 88 00:04:20,145 --> 00:04:22,465 Speaker 3: of year when I am sort of swimming a lot 89 00:04:22,505 --> 00:04:25,225 Speaker 3: more so that washing my hair more than average, I 90 00:04:25,305 --> 00:04:27,225 Speaker 3: do need to use it. So yeah, i'd say once 91 00:04:27,265 --> 00:04:29,785 Speaker 3: a week ish, Yeah, maybe once every ten days. 92 00:04:29,905 --> 00:04:30,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also it. 93 00:04:30,825 --> 00:04:33,665 Speaker 2: Depends on the product and follow the instructions because I 94 00:04:33,705 --> 00:04:35,905 Speaker 2: remember when I first maybe it was kat. 95 00:04:35,865 --> 00:04:38,905 Speaker 1: It was and you never recovered. You stidn't love it well. 96 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:40,785 Speaker 2: I just only gave it a try a couple of times. 97 00:04:40,865 --> 00:04:42,385 Speaker 2: It just wasn't for me. Products aren't going to be 98 00:04:42,425 --> 00:04:44,785 Speaker 2: for everyone. I think when I first started using Oloplex too, 99 00:04:44,825 --> 00:04:46,705 Speaker 2: I was like more and leave it in for longer, 100 00:04:47,025 --> 00:04:49,505 Speaker 2: and it just wasn't what you're supposed to do, you know, 101 00:04:49,505 --> 00:04:52,545 Speaker 2: follow the direction. So two that I really enjoy on 102 00:04:52,745 --> 00:04:55,185 Speaker 2: a spendy ones a Savy. I've talked about this a lot, 103 00:04:55,225 --> 00:04:57,905 Speaker 2: the Toni and Guy Strength Plex bond Repair. There's a 104 00:04:57,905 --> 00:05:01,305 Speaker 2: whole range shampoo conditioner. I really like the shampoo an 105 00:05:01,345 --> 00:05:03,825 Speaker 2: conditioner because it feels like you're doing that anyway. But 106 00:05:03,865 --> 00:05:06,585 Speaker 2: the mask is really great. It's currently sold out on Woolies, 107 00:05:06,625 --> 00:05:08,185 Speaker 2: so there you go. It's pretty popular. It's got a 108 00:05:08,225 --> 00:05:10,545 Speaker 2: lot of five star reviews. But for me, I just 109 00:05:10,585 --> 00:05:12,385 Speaker 2: put that from the ears down with my hair at 110 00:05:12,425 --> 00:05:14,825 Speaker 2: the moment and then rinse it out. I don't have 111 00:05:14,825 --> 00:05:16,905 Speaker 2: any issues with that. And then a really good kind 112 00:05:16,945 --> 00:05:20,105 Speaker 2: of leave in one is the kera silk strengthening bond builder, 113 00:05:20,265 --> 00:05:23,105 Speaker 2: and that's a styling product. So I literally put it 114 00:05:23,145 --> 00:05:26,545 Speaker 2: in damp hair sparingly. And I have learned this the 115 00:05:26,585 --> 00:05:28,985 Speaker 2: hard way because I'm not a sparingly typed person when 116 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:32,185 Speaker 2: it comes to beauty. But follow the directions and yeah, 117 00:05:32,345 --> 00:05:34,345 Speaker 2: don't go crazy, don't go ham just because your hair 118 00:05:34,385 --> 00:05:36,865 Speaker 2: is damage, because it will feel more damaged. Do you 119 00:05:36,905 --> 00:05:37,625 Speaker 2: have some faiths? 120 00:05:37,945 --> 00:05:38,185 Speaker 1: You know? 121 00:05:38,345 --> 00:05:40,825 Speaker 3: I love the Kateen I've talked about it pretty much 122 00:05:40,865 --> 00:05:44,025 Speaker 3: since it launched. It is so expensive, though, so I 123 00:05:44,065 --> 00:05:47,945 Speaker 3: always recommend to people get the little fifteen mel travel 124 00:05:48,065 --> 00:05:49,065 Speaker 3: size one. 125 00:05:48,665 --> 00:05:50,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, to give it a great way to trial. 126 00:05:50,345 --> 00:05:52,865 Speaker 3: Yeah, because otherwise, like I reckon, it's fifty to fifty, 127 00:05:52,865 --> 00:05:54,785 Speaker 3: people either love it or they just don't get it. 128 00:05:55,185 --> 00:05:57,665 Speaker 3: So I think that that's just a way better option 129 00:05:57,825 --> 00:06:00,265 Speaker 3: rather than going out and spending over one hundred dollars 130 00:06:00,305 --> 00:06:02,985 Speaker 3: on something that potentially will do nothing. So you can 131 00:06:03,025 --> 00:06:06,465 Speaker 3: buy that from Sephora or Adore Beauty or probably online 132 00:06:06,465 --> 00:06:08,945 Speaker 3: at the actual website, just like the little trial size, 133 00:06:08,945 --> 00:06:11,385 Speaker 3: and that will give you a bit out three to 134 00:06:11,585 --> 00:06:14,785 Speaker 3: four gos so you can sort of really learn. 135 00:06:14,585 --> 00:06:17,265 Speaker 2: The struggle like a Kateen because of the directions. And 136 00:06:17,345 --> 00:06:19,185 Speaker 2: again that's because I'm naughty and lazy, and I think 137 00:06:19,225 --> 00:06:21,585 Speaker 2: you meant to shampoo then get out and then put 138 00:06:21,625 --> 00:06:23,145 Speaker 2: it in and you don't condition or something. 139 00:06:23,225 --> 00:06:25,785 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't condition because it's like it does that 140 00:06:25,905 --> 00:06:26,265 Speaker 1: for you. 141 00:06:26,425 --> 00:06:28,865 Speaker 3: Yes, I will say that I actually don't like that 142 00:06:28,985 --> 00:06:29,985 Speaker 3: sometimes because my. 143 00:06:29,945 --> 00:06:33,665 Speaker 2: Hair is so shampoo were like clean but not silky. Yeah, 144 00:06:33,705 --> 00:06:35,545 Speaker 2: and then I find it really hard to brush and 145 00:06:35,625 --> 00:06:37,905 Speaker 2: just yuck. But I've never found it out using the 146 00:06:37,985 --> 00:06:40,785 Speaker 2: catine like it does. The results The results are really good. Also, 147 00:06:40,945 --> 00:06:43,865 Speaker 2: you can still use a conditioner if you want, Okay, Yeah, 148 00:06:43,985 --> 00:06:45,385 Speaker 2: you can do what you want. Yeah. And that's the 149 00:06:45,425 --> 00:06:47,585 Speaker 2: other thing you know, on the other nights or days 150 00:06:47,705 --> 00:06:50,145 Speaker 2: or hair wash whatever, is make sure you're using a 151 00:06:50,185 --> 00:06:53,705 Speaker 2: nourishing conditioner because just because you've done the protein part, 152 00:06:53,745 --> 00:06:56,665 Speaker 2: the plex part, the bond part, you need the fiber. 153 00:06:56,825 --> 00:06:57,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need the fiber. 154 00:06:57,945 --> 00:07:00,665 Speaker 2: So have the fiber sam that wall down and paint 155 00:07:00,705 --> 00:07:04,065 Speaker 2: it by using really beautiful, juicy and nourishing moisturizing conditioner 156 00:07:04,185 --> 00:07:04,905 Speaker 2: and all mask. 157 00:07:05,305 --> 00:07:07,625 Speaker 1: Yeah. Agree, Does that help? I don't know if my 158 00:07:07,665 --> 00:07:09,665 Speaker 1: analogies help. I think it was a greater analogy. 159 00:07:09,905 --> 00:07:12,265 Speaker 3: Thank your friend later on in the episode, I actually 160 00:07:12,305 --> 00:07:15,625 Speaker 3: have another analogy with physical things to show you my 161 00:07:15,705 --> 00:07:17,385 Speaker 3: example show it I. 162 00:07:17,385 --> 00:07:26,105 Speaker 2: Do okay well, Izzy has asked Hi, Lee and Kelly 163 00:07:26,265 --> 00:07:29,265 Speaker 2: absolutely adore the pod and look forward to your episodes 164 00:07:29,305 --> 00:07:33,865 Speaker 2: every week. I have a morning workout related question. When 165 00:07:33,945 --> 00:07:36,425 Speaker 2: is the best time to do my full morning skincare 166 00:07:36,505 --> 00:07:39,025 Speaker 2: routine if I know I'm going to be getting sweaty 167 00:07:39,105 --> 00:07:43,425 Speaker 2: and showering after. I'm not an early morning exerciser, more 168 00:07:43,465 --> 00:07:46,505 Speaker 2: mid morning, so I find I'm applying my full morning 169 00:07:46,545 --> 00:07:49,945 Speaker 2: routine including sunscreen, prior to heading on my brisk walk 170 00:07:49,985 --> 00:07:52,745 Speaker 2: outside or off to the gym or to pilates. When 171 00:07:52,745 --> 00:07:55,825 Speaker 2: I come home and shower, have I essentially sweated and 172 00:07:56,025 --> 00:07:58,945 Speaker 2: washed all of my skincare off? Do I need to 173 00:07:59,025 --> 00:08:03,305 Speaker 2: reapply at all? Or would moisturizer and fresh sunscreen suffice? 174 00:08:03,385 --> 00:08:05,785 Speaker 2: It seems too late to wait till the late morning 175 00:08:05,905 --> 00:08:10,985 Speaker 2: after shower for my morning sunscreen application. Thank you so much, Izzy, Easy, 176 00:08:11,065 --> 00:08:13,105 Speaker 2: I want your life. I know that's not true. I 177 00:08:13,385 --> 00:08:15,745 Speaker 2: sometimes have your life like freelance life that I can 178 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:16,785 Speaker 2: go to pilarts mid morning. 179 00:08:16,865 --> 00:08:19,305 Speaker 3: I think we had a similar question last year that 180 00:08:19,345 --> 00:08:21,705 Speaker 3: made me go wow, some people are really active. 181 00:08:21,985 --> 00:08:25,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, but also she's not going super early. Maybe she's 182 00:08:25,225 --> 00:08:26,745 Speaker 2: getting it up at eight and she's going to Pilartis 183 00:08:26,785 --> 00:08:27,505 Speaker 2: at ten and then. 184 00:08:27,345 --> 00:08:29,825 Speaker 3: Oh I love it though. I love her enthusiasm for 185 00:08:29,865 --> 00:08:30,745 Speaker 3: the morning workout. 186 00:08:30,985 --> 00:08:31,345 Speaker 1: Me too. 187 00:08:31,865 --> 00:08:35,825 Speaker 2: Look, my recommendation would be still to wait, So get up. 188 00:08:35,905 --> 00:08:38,105 Speaker 2: I mean, are you seeing people? Does it matter what 189 00:08:38,145 --> 00:08:39,785 Speaker 2: you look like? Of course? I mean, it never matters 190 00:08:39,785 --> 00:08:41,065 Speaker 2: what you look like, you know what I mean. But 191 00:08:41,665 --> 00:08:43,625 Speaker 2: you want your skin care to be on your face 192 00:08:43,705 --> 00:08:48,185 Speaker 2: the longest period of time. So I sometimes go to 193 00:08:48,225 --> 00:08:50,065 Speaker 2: Pilarates at like a ten. I've got a day that 194 00:08:50,145 --> 00:08:52,585 Speaker 2: I work for myself at home, and I'm booked in 195 00:08:52,585 --> 00:08:54,985 Speaker 2: for Plartis at ten every week. But the days I go, 196 00:08:55,065 --> 00:08:57,105 Speaker 2: what I do is I get up, splash my face 197 00:08:57,185 --> 00:08:59,785 Speaker 2: or my cellar water, and then I literally just put 198 00:08:59,785 --> 00:09:01,385 Speaker 2: on sunscreen because I you know, I've used one of 199 00:09:01,425 --> 00:09:04,385 Speaker 2: those sunscreens that's got yummy, juicy skin goodness in it. 200 00:09:04,465 --> 00:09:06,265 Speaker 2: And then I go about my morning and then I 201 00:09:06,265 --> 00:09:08,825 Speaker 2: head off to Polarates. I come home, shower, and then 202 00:09:08,865 --> 00:09:12,225 Speaker 2: I do my full rios routines, so my vitamin C serums, 203 00:09:12,585 --> 00:09:15,265 Speaker 2: whatever I cream and all of that, I literally just 204 00:09:15,305 --> 00:09:17,665 Speaker 2: do that one step, because I think, you know, is 205 00:09:17,745 --> 00:09:20,105 Speaker 2: it by the time you're waking up, you've probably got 206 00:09:20,145 --> 00:09:24,025 Speaker 2: your full routine on two hours, maybe three, And then 207 00:09:24,345 --> 00:09:27,465 Speaker 2: you're saying it seems too late to wait till late morning, 208 00:09:27,665 --> 00:09:29,185 Speaker 2: But it's not, because you've. 209 00:09:29,505 --> 00:09:32,705 Speaker 1: Still way longer than eight hours. Do you agree? I 210 00:09:32,785 --> 00:09:33,905 Speaker 1: completely agree. 211 00:09:33,985 --> 00:09:36,265 Speaker 2: I also think, depending on your skin type and the 212 00:09:36,265 --> 00:09:38,505 Speaker 2: amount of layers, that just having all that on your 213 00:09:38,505 --> 00:09:43,145 Speaker 2: face is unnecessary for me, particularly because I am combo 214 00:09:43,185 --> 00:09:45,225 Speaker 2: and I'm a sweaty girl. And even if I'm only 215 00:09:45,265 --> 00:09:47,825 Speaker 2: doing reformer, which is hard by the way, I sweat 216 00:09:47,825 --> 00:09:49,785 Speaker 2: a lot in my head. So I don't want layers 217 00:09:49,785 --> 00:09:53,545 Speaker 2: and layers of skincare and sunscreen sweating all over my face. 218 00:09:53,345 --> 00:09:56,065 Speaker 1: Like myffocating your face. Yeah, so easy. 219 00:09:56,145 --> 00:09:57,945 Speaker 2: I would just get up and like if you wanted 220 00:09:57,985 --> 00:09:59,905 Speaker 2: to have a layer of hydration, you could just use 221 00:09:59,945 --> 00:10:03,505 Speaker 2: like a missed even missed then your sunscreen, then come 222 00:10:03,545 --> 00:10:06,585 Speaker 2: home and do it all once. It's not really gonna 223 00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:08,385 Speaker 2: hurt if you do it twice, Like if you're rolling 224 00:10:08,425 --> 00:10:10,265 Speaker 2: in cash and you're not worried about wasting your skin 225 00:10:10,385 --> 00:10:13,185 Speaker 2: and time that you're puppy to yet twice, then it's 226 00:10:13,185 --> 00:10:15,425 Speaker 2: so fine to do it all, you know, at eight 227 00:10:15,465 --> 00:10:18,305 Speaker 2: am and then at eleven am. But I wouldn't waste 228 00:10:18,385 --> 00:10:20,385 Speaker 2: my good suns screen in that first two hours before 229 00:10:20,385 --> 00:10:21,185 Speaker 2: I'm in exercise. 230 00:10:21,425 --> 00:10:24,745 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree, or any nice products personally. 231 00:10:24,865 --> 00:10:25,105 Speaker 1: Yes. 232 00:10:25,385 --> 00:10:26,785 Speaker 2: Well, actually, what I often do is I do my 233 00:10:26,865 --> 00:10:29,305 Speaker 2: sun's screen, then I'll do another layer of tinted sunscreen 234 00:10:29,385 --> 00:10:32,985 Speaker 2: just so I don't look terrifying because that tinted layer 235 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:35,945 Speaker 2: isn't enough for my full SBF. But then I go 236 00:10:36,025 --> 00:10:38,865 Speaker 2: home cleanse. I double cleanse too, and make sure easy 237 00:10:38,865 --> 00:10:40,905 Speaker 2: when you're coming home. If you have been wearing sunscreen 238 00:10:40,905 --> 00:10:43,505 Speaker 2: to work out and then sweating, it's sweating double cleans 239 00:10:43,945 --> 00:10:46,305 Speaker 2: because oftentimes we only double cleans in the night. But 240 00:10:46,465 --> 00:10:48,305 Speaker 2: you need to double cleans or that sunscreen off before 241 00:10:48,345 --> 00:10:51,545 Speaker 2: you put your am goodness on. Is he don't waste 242 00:10:51,545 --> 00:10:54,025 Speaker 2: all your delicious layers and your time sleep in for 243 00:10:54,025 --> 00:10:58,145 Speaker 2: another fifteen Yeah, have your coffee, go on your exercise, 244 00:10:58,185 --> 00:10:59,865 Speaker 2: and then come home and tackle it all at once. 245 00:11:07,185 --> 00:11:10,545 Speaker 2: What a makeup packs? 246 00:11:11,545 --> 00:11:16,825 Speaker 3: Purs tags tag a lot, So, Kelly, what is your 247 00:11:16,905 --> 00:11:19,825 Speaker 3: host hack this week? A few weeks ago, I got 248 00:11:19,825 --> 00:11:23,905 Speaker 3: a question on Instagram about where to apply different stages 249 00:11:23,945 --> 00:11:26,785 Speaker 3: of skin care, and I put that you put your 250 00:11:26,785 --> 00:11:29,465 Speaker 3: oil last, and I got heaps of d MS about it, 251 00:11:29,505 --> 00:11:31,625 Speaker 3: and I thought, gosh, this always happens whenever I talk 252 00:11:31,665 --> 00:11:34,425 Speaker 3: about the order of skincare. So I just thought, what 253 00:11:34,505 --> 00:11:36,825 Speaker 3: a great way I'm going to bring in an analogy. 254 00:11:37,185 --> 00:11:41,265 Speaker 3: I love this physical analogies. It's an experiment where do 255 00:11:41,385 --> 00:11:46,625 Speaker 3: I put my hydrating serum and like or my oil? 256 00:11:46,705 --> 00:11:47,305 Speaker 1: B yes? 257 00:11:47,385 --> 00:11:49,305 Speaker 3: And I wrote back and I was like, okay, so 258 00:11:49,385 --> 00:11:51,705 Speaker 3: you cleanse and you put your tone of mist or innocence, 259 00:11:51,745 --> 00:11:54,785 Speaker 3: whatever stage. Then you go from thinnest to thickest. Then 260 00:11:54,825 --> 00:11:58,265 Speaker 3: you do your serums, then you'll do your moisturizer, then 261 00:11:58,265 --> 00:12:01,385 Speaker 3: you finish with an oil if you're using an oil. Also, 262 00:12:01,665 --> 00:12:04,545 Speaker 3: just remember, though it's just skincare, you can do whatever 263 00:12:04,545 --> 00:12:04,825 Speaker 3: the hell. 264 00:12:04,905 --> 00:12:06,905 Speaker 2: You want, not like your housema burst into flames. But 265 00:12:06,905 --> 00:12:09,025 Speaker 2: also doesn't it depend on how thick your moisturizer is, 266 00:12:09,145 --> 00:12:11,265 Speaker 2: Like if it's a slugging moisturizer. 267 00:12:10,985 --> 00:12:14,105 Speaker 3: Yes, but we're just talking about regular like so not 268 00:12:14,145 --> 00:12:19,305 Speaker 3: a thicker flaine, not yet exactly. So I thought that 269 00:12:19,305 --> 00:12:21,145 Speaker 3: I would get out because I got so many DMS 270 00:12:21,145 --> 00:12:24,745 Speaker 3: from people being like, but oil's not thicker than moisturizer, 271 00:12:25,025 --> 00:12:27,825 Speaker 3: and there's all these different things. So I just was like, 272 00:12:27,945 --> 00:12:29,825 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I can't be bothered explaining this and 273 00:12:29,825 --> 00:12:31,425 Speaker 3: all my DM So I'm just going to save this 274 00:12:31,505 --> 00:12:34,385 Speaker 3: host haack for you, beauty. I've got a glass of water, 275 00:12:34,665 --> 00:12:37,105 Speaker 3: and I want Lee to tell me what happens to 276 00:12:37,345 --> 00:12:38,545 Speaker 3: a dollop of moisturize. 277 00:12:38,585 --> 00:12:40,545 Speaker 2: I've got a dollop of a night cream, yeah, and. 278 00:12:40,785 --> 00:12:44,585 Speaker 3: Just a regular like hydrating moisturizer medium weight. I've got 279 00:12:44,585 --> 00:12:47,305 Speaker 3: a little scoop of moisturizer water based. 280 00:12:47,345 --> 00:12:49,705 Speaker 1: I'm going to just bang it on this glass. It 281 00:12:49,705 --> 00:12:53,185 Speaker 1: looks like you're making a cocktail. So the moisturizer sinks 282 00:12:53,225 --> 00:12:53,945 Speaker 1: into the water. 283 00:12:54,105 --> 00:12:55,625 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's slowly sinking down. 284 00:12:55,745 --> 00:12:58,825 Speaker 3: It's just proving that like moisturizer can be absorbed because 285 00:12:58,825 --> 00:13:01,345 Speaker 3: it's water based. Now I've got some oil and I'm 286 00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:03,025 Speaker 3: going to put it in the water as well. And 287 00:13:03,065 --> 00:13:05,945 Speaker 3: what happens to the oil It floats. All it does 288 00:13:06,025 --> 00:13:08,825 Speaker 3: is sit on the surface. It is never ever going 289 00:13:08,865 --> 00:13:12,225 Speaker 3: to be absorbed into the water. And if I then 290 00:13:12,305 --> 00:13:14,025 Speaker 3: put another I don't want to waste anymore. But if 291 00:13:14,065 --> 00:13:17,585 Speaker 3: I then put another dollop of the moisturizer on top 292 00:13:17,625 --> 00:13:19,345 Speaker 3: of the oil. It would then just sit on top 293 00:13:19,385 --> 00:13:23,145 Speaker 3: of the oil because it can't penetrate. Yes, the oil 294 00:13:23,265 --> 00:13:29,345 Speaker 3: is a barrier exactly. Okay, So moisturizer then oil, because 295 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:32,825 Speaker 3: no moisturizer is then going to penetrate through the oil. 296 00:13:33,025 --> 00:13:35,145 Speaker 3: Because if you just think about the way the oil 297 00:13:35,185 --> 00:13:35,985 Speaker 3: sits on water. 298 00:13:36,305 --> 00:13:38,185 Speaker 1: Yes, I've got an analogy. 299 00:13:38,545 --> 00:13:41,505 Speaker 2: Go, think you've made a salad right, yeah, and then 300 00:13:41,545 --> 00:13:43,265 Speaker 2: you've put glad rap over it because you're putting in 301 00:13:43,305 --> 00:13:45,425 Speaker 2: the fridge to take to Mary's house later for a barbecue. 302 00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:49,545 Speaker 2: Then you can't, like you can't. The glad wrap is 303 00:13:49,585 --> 00:13:51,825 Speaker 2: the oil. You can't then add anything else to the 304 00:13:51,905 --> 00:13:53,745 Speaker 2: salad because glad wrap is oil. 305 00:13:53,825 --> 00:13:55,425 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great analogy. 306 00:13:55,785 --> 00:13:56,705 Speaker 2: Not but you know what I mean. 307 00:13:56,825 --> 00:14:01,025 Speaker 3: Wow, let's call this episode leon Kel's Unhinged analogies. 308 00:14:01,825 --> 00:14:03,825 Speaker 2: But I really like that because you put the moisturize 309 00:14:03,825 --> 00:14:05,305 Speaker 2: and it's sort of floated at the start, but now 310 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:08,345 Speaker 2: it's sinking down now, So think of the water as 311 00:14:08,385 --> 00:14:11,345 Speaker 2: your skin. It's seeping in and then the oil's like, 312 00:14:11,425 --> 00:14:13,385 Speaker 2: oh yeah, moisturizer, I got you. I'm going to be 313 00:14:13,385 --> 00:14:15,305 Speaker 2: your body. I'm going to lock you in lock it. 314 00:14:15,305 --> 00:14:17,825 Speaker 3: And also the oil is still doing a lovely job 315 00:14:17,825 --> 00:14:21,065 Speaker 3: on the surface of the water, keeping it nice and juicy. 316 00:14:21,905 --> 00:14:23,625 Speaker 1: What it doesn't look like it's doing anything in the 317 00:14:23,665 --> 00:14:24,545 Speaker 1: cup of water. 318 00:14:24,905 --> 00:14:27,905 Speaker 3: But it's not going to be really penetrating deep into 319 00:14:27,945 --> 00:14:28,865 Speaker 3: your skin layers. 320 00:14:29,025 --> 00:14:31,185 Speaker 2: It's great and I love this analogy. I hope no 321 00:14:31,225 --> 00:14:32,105 Speaker 2: one picks up that water. 322 00:14:32,465 --> 00:14:34,465 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know someone if I'm gonna, I'm just 323 00:14:34,505 --> 00:14:36,465 Speaker 3: gonna put this in the sink and someone will be like, 324 00:14:36,545 --> 00:14:37,385 Speaker 3: ell r. 325 00:14:37,545 --> 00:14:38,385 Speaker 1: What's your host hack. 326 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:41,305 Speaker 2: My host hac is a product that I think maybe 327 00:14:41,345 --> 00:14:42,905 Speaker 2: I use the wrong way, but I like it and 328 00:14:42,985 --> 00:14:46,385 Speaker 2: you would love this so God. A year ago now, 329 00:14:46,425 --> 00:14:48,945 Speaker 2: a makeup artist did my makeup and she was putting 330 00:14:48,945 --> 00:14:52,305 Speaker 2: something on my eyelids and it's the Mac Cosmetics Pro 331 00:14:52,545 --> 00:14:55,305 Speaker 2: long Way paint pot. It comes in five colors. Well, 332 00:14:55,305 --> 00:14:57,305 Speaker 2: I'm on a door beauty and there's five. I feel 333 00:14:57,305 --> 00:15:00,065 Speaker 2: like there might be more directly through Mac, but they're 334 00:15:00,105 --> 00:15:02,905 Speaker 2: all sort of doesn't sound like a very big shade range. No, 335 00:15:03,145 --> 00:15:05,385 Speaker 2: But because when she I was like, what is that, 336 00:15:05,505 --> 00:15:08,025 Speaker 2: It's like I use it because I don't do a 337 00:15:08,025 --> 00:15:11,225 Speaker 2: lot of eyeshadow, but my eyelid's naturally quite dark, and 338 00:15:11,265 --> 00:15:13,145 Speaker 2: I think because I'm probably a bit unhealthy at the moment, 339 00:15:13,145 --> 00:15:14,905 Speaker 2: they're a bit like purple. I don't know what that means, 340 00:15:14,985 --> 00:15:18,985 Speaker 2: liver whatever. So I use it and I tap tap 341 00:15:18,985 --> 00:15:23,545 Speaker 2: tap across my eyelid to neutralize and brighten because I 342 00:15:23,625 --> 00:15:26,065 Speaker 2: used to use an under eyebrightener on the top of 343 00:15:26,065 --> 00:15:28,545 Speaker 2: my eyelid to do the same thing. Because they're designed 344 00:15:28,545 --> 00:15:30,585 Speaker 2: for under eye, they're too juicy. Then I had to 345 00:15:30,585 --> 00:15:33,225 Speaker 2: set it and because I've got oily eyelids. So these 346 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:35,905 Speaker 2: are basically it's called a long wear paint pot. 347 00:15:36,025 --> 00:15:37,625 Speaker 1: It's almost like a full. 348 00:15:37,625 --> 00:15:41,185 Speaker 2: Coverage concealer, but for the eyelid. You can wear it 349 00:15:41,225 --> 00:15:42,905 Speaker 2: on its own. But also what it's meant to do 350 00:15:42,985 --> 00:15:44,705 Speaker 2: is be a base for your shadow, and then it 351 00:15:44,745 --> 00:15:46,945 Speaker 2: makes your shadow pop like crazy. 352 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:48,305 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like a neutralizer. 353 00:15:48,585 --> 00:15:50,625 Speaker 2: Yes, and it's like an eyelid primer. But when they 354 00:15:50,625 --> 00:15:53,345 Speaker 2: say it's full coverage, it is so full coverage. So 355 00:15:53,465 --> 00:15:56,465 Speaker 2: I use the color painterly. I'll give that to you. 356 00:15:56,545 --> 00:15:58,305 Speaker 2: Kel that's probably a bit pink for me, to be honest. 357 00:15:58,505 --> 00:16:01,545 Speaker 2: Bear study looks amazing. That's just like a beige. There's 358 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:05,145 Speaker 2: a beautiful bronze color. So if you're not a shadow wearer, 359 00:16:05,225 --> 00:16:07,345 Speaker 2: but you're maybe a liner wearer, or you've just got 360 00:16:07,345 --> 00:16:09,865 Speaker 2: that kind of really dark lid that you don't like 361 00:16:09,865 --> 00:16:12,905 Speaker 2: the look of. Instead of using concealer that's too juicy, 362 00:16:13,185 --> 00:16:15,665 Speaker 2: or foundation that's too juicy, or an eyelid primer that's 363 00:16:15,665 --> 00:16:18,265 Speaker 2: too sheer, use one of these long wear paint pot 364 00:16:18,585 --> 00:16:21,545 Speaker 2: It's just literally like full coverage cream color. 365 00:16:21,465 --> 00:16:23,225 Speaker 1: But it is a conciller, like you could use it 366 00:16:23,265 --> 00:16:24,105 Speaker 1: on the rest of your face. 367 00:16:24,225 --> 00:16:28,065 Speaker 2: No, it says perfect for anyone for looking for long lasting, 368 00:16:28,305 --> 00:16:32,545 Speaker 2: multifunctional cream eye shadd that primes and perfect. It adds 369 00:16:32,585 --> 00:16:35,745 Speaker 2: buildable color for versatile eye looks, So for you, you'd 370 00:16:35,785 --> 00:16:38,105 Speaker 2: use it as a base and then if you did, 371 00:16:38,105 --> 00:16:40,825 Speaker 2: blue would be so blue because you're not trying to like. 372 00:16:40,985 --> 00:16:43,705 Speaker 1: It's fighting with the actual blue on my lids. 373 00:16:43,785 --> 00:16:46,385 Speaker 2: Ye. Yes, so I love it and I don't really 374 00:16:46,385 --> 00:16:47,905 Speaker 2: do a lot of shadow, but I just use it 375 00:16:47,945 --> 00:16:50,585 Speaker 2: to make my eyes not look so purple and old 376 00:16:50,665 --> 00:16:52,305 Speaker 2: and tired. And it works. 377 00:16:52,385 --> 00:16:53,145 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. 378 00:16:53,225 --> 00:16:55,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it sets like long wear lipstick, like you, 379 00:16:55,665 --> 00:16:58,585 Speaker 2: it's not going anywhere And actually, Kelly, speaking of my 380 00:16:58,705 --> 00:17:01,825 Speaker 2: tired purple eyes because as you know, I don't sleep 381 00:17:02,065 --> 00:17:04,825 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, which is tomorrow. I don't know, I'm too tired. 382 00:17:05,305 --> 00:17:10,065 Speaker 2: Karen has chatted to Australia's leading sleep expert all about 383 00:17:10,105 --> 00:17:12,585 Speaker 2: how sleep is linked to beauty and our skin. 384 00:17:12,425 --> 00:17:14,345 Speaker 3: And I don't know if I want to listen, Lee, 385 00:17:14,785 --> 00:17:16,425 Speaker 3: maybe they'll get a stick sleep. 386 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:18,825 Speaker 2: I mean, not from a boring episode, but from the tips. 387 00:17:19,025 --> 00:17:21,425 Speaker 2: Oh true, true, So stay tuned for that one. 388 00:17:21,705 --> 00:17:22,065 Speaker 1: Okay. 389 00:17:22,105 --> 00:17:25,305 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you enjoyed all those analogies. If any 390 00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:27,545 Speaker 2: of it made sense, or if you have a better one, 391 00:17:27,585 --> 00:17:30,185 Speaker 2: that please put it in the You Beauty Facebook group 392 00:17:30,305 --> 00:17:32,505 Speaker 2: because Kelly and I are very talented of many things 393 00:17:32,505 --> 00:17:34,425 Speaker 2: that analogies. It seems I want to. 394 00:17:34,465 --> 00:17:35,825 Speaker 1: I'm not our forte. 395 00:17:36,025 --> 00:17:38,545 Speaker 3: But thank you so much for joining us today, Thank 396 00:17:38,585 --> 00:17:40,865 Speaker 3: you for listening, and as we mentioned at the top, 397 00:17:41,065 --> 00:17:44,185 Speaker 3: please send us any questions that you have on Instagram 398 00:17:44,185 --> 00:17:46,545 Speaker 3: at You Beauty Podcast and our producer will make sure 399 00:17:46,585 --> 00:17:47,665 Speaker 3: we answer it asap. 400 00:17:47,825 --> 00:17:51,545 Speaker 2: Speaking of producers, the incredible Kaffi Merrit producers You Beauty 401 00:17:51,545 --> 00:17:54,065 Speaker 2: and keeps us in line and audio production is by 402 00:17:54,145 --> 00:17:57,625 Speaker 2: the beautiful Teagan Saddler. We will see you hear you, 403 00:17:58,025 --> 00:17:59,625 Speaker 2: talk to you, be in your ears on Friday. 404 00:17:59,865 --> 00:18:02,145 Speaker 1: Bye.