1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,704 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome 4 00:00:26,744 --> 00:00:30,224 Speaker 2: to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Broadney. 5 00:00:29,904 --> 00:00:31,384 Speaker 1: And I'm cassee you lu kids. 6 00:00:31,424 --> 00:00:33,464 Speaker 2: And coming up on the show today, two of our 7 00:00:33,504 --> 00:00:37,864 Speaker 2: favorite actresses have hot sexy new boyfriends. That's the headline. 8 00:00:37,864 --> 00:00:39,504 Speaker 2: I was trying to make it sound smarter or more 9 00:00:39,504 --> 00:00:42,424 Speaker 2: in depth. We've got a cultural critique. We don't. We've 10 00:00:42,424 --> 00:00:44,304 Speaker 2: just seen some hot sexy photos and we're going to 11 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:47,144 Speaker 2: talk about how they came about. Plus, a very controversial 12 00:00:47,224 --> 00:00:50,064 Speaker 2: pop star is in more controversy again. 13 00:00:50,304 --> 00:00:53,304 Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna, you know, give you guys the 14 00:00:53,344 --> 00:00:55,544 Speaker 3: scoop on this one. There's a lot to be said 15 00:00:55,544 --> 00:00:58,104 Speaker 3: for it. She's been I don't know why I'm being 16 00:00:58,144 --> 00:01:00,664 Speaker 3: so like KG about this. It's Jojo Sia. 17 00:01:00,824 --> 00:01:03,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, guys, how will you know who is talking 18 00:01:03,864 --> 00:01:05,624 Speaker 2: about it? You're going to read the show notes before 19 00:01:05,624 --> 00:01:05,984 Speaker 2: you listen. 20 00:01:06,144 --> 00:01:07,984 Speaker 1: It's going to be in the podcast anyway. 21 00:01:08,104 --> 00:01:10,544 Speaker 3: Jojo se was released a cover of Bettie Davison. We're 22 00:01:10,544 --> 00:01:12,344 Speaker 3: going to talk about it. There's a bit to go 23 00:01:12,424 --> 00:01:13,304 Speaker 3: into Yes. 24 00:01:13,224 --> 00:01:15,264 Speaker 2: Yes, and there's been some new developments as we were 25 00:01:15,304 --> 00:01:17,784 Speaker 2: recording the pod, so that's very exciting. But first of all, 26 00:01:17,824 --> 00:01:19,984 Speaker 2: I must talk about a very important news item that 27 00:01:20,024 --> 00:01:22,184 Speaker 2: crossed my desk today, and that is the fact that 28 00:01:22,264 --> 00:01:24,504 Speaker 2: Kesher who I just got to say, I freaking love Kesher. 29 00:01:25,024 --> 00:01:29,064 Speaker 2: I love so all her songs, bangers. I haven't seen 30 00:01:29,104 --> 00:01:30,984 Speaker 2: her live, I would love to. All the clips sten 31 00:01:31,024 --> 00:01:32,944 Speaker 2: of her live are amazing. I find her a really 32 00:01:32,944 --> 00:01:34,624 Speaker 2: interesting person, do you know. 33 00:01:34,584 --> 00:01:35,104 Speaker 1: What I love? 34 00:01:35,224 --> 00:01:35,624 Speaker 2: Yeah? 35 00:01:35,664 --> 00:01:39,384 Speaker 3: Like, literally, as soon as the P Diddy stuff came out, 36 00:01:39,584 --> 00:01:43,704 Speaker 3: she changed her song yeah from the morning feeling like 37 00:01:43,864 --> 00:01:46,344 Speaker 3: fuck pe did Yeah, she says fuck p did do 38 00:01:46,424 --> 00:01:49,224 Speaker 3: or something she did that straight away. 39 00:01:49,344 --> 00:01:51,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's on the right side of history or I 40 00:01:51,104 --> 00:01:54,464 Speaker 2: love that. So recently she went on Conan O'Brien's podcast, 41 00:01:54,504 --> 00:01:56,464 Speaker 2: which I quite enjoy. He has some really good guests 42 00:01:56,464 --> 00:01:58,904 Speaker 2: on Iodebris was a recent favor of mine. So it's 43 00:01:58,904 --> 00:02:01,664 Speaker 2: called Conan O'Brien needs a friend, and he does it 44 00:02:01,704 --> 00:02:04,464 Speaker 2: with the producer of his talk show and they have 45 00:02:04,504 --> 00:02:06,904 Speaker 2: a really cute relationship. But this one in particular I 46 00:02:06,904 --> 00:02:10,344 Speaker 2: found really interesting. So if you're not across Kesha's backstore. 47 00:02:10,664 --> 00:02:12,864 Speaker 2: She pretty much hasn't released any new music for over 48 00:02:12,944 --> 00:02:16,104 Speaker 2: ten years. She was in this huge litigation over the 49 00:02:16,184 --> 00:02:18,224 Speaker 2: rights to her music and the rights to her career, 50 00:02:18,224 --> 00:02:20,264 Speaker 2: and even the rights to her voice. She was also 51 00:02:20,304 --> 00:02:22,824 Speaker 2: in that big back and forth legal issue with doctor Luke. 52 00:02:23,344 --> 00:02:26,144 Speaker 2: She alleged that he had raped and sexually abused her. 53 00:02:26,424 --> 00:02:30,104 Speaker 2: He sued her for defamation. They settled after nearly a 54 00:02:30,144 --> 00:02:32,024 Speaker 2: decade of going back and forth in the courts. And 55 00:02:32,064 --> 00:02:34,384 Speaker 2: so at the moment now she's really out in the 56 00:02:34,384 --> 00:02:36,824 Speaker 2: world being able to perform and release new music for 57 00:02:36,864 --> 00:02:38,864 Speaker 2: the first time in ten years. And I found it 58 00:02:38,864 --> 00:02:41,584 Speaker 2: really cute her going on Conan O'Brien's podcast because he 59 00:02:41,664 --> 00:02:44,864 Speaker 2: starts off by saying, how from the moment she blew up, 60 00:02:44,944 --> 00:02:47,304 Speaker 2: she was always a guest on his show. She was 61 00:02:47,344 --> 00:02:49,464 Speaker 2: really loyal to no matter how busy she was, always 62 00:02:49,464 --> 00:02:52,624 Speaker 2: coming back to his show. They had a really great relationship. 63 00:02:52,704 --> 00:02:54,864 Speaker 2: And he talks about bumping in her on the street 64 00:02:54,864 --> 00:02:57,184 Speaker 2: when she was really in the height of her legal battles, 65 00:02:57,544 --> 00:02:59,184 Speaker 2: and he's like, I just saw you and I knew 66 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:00,944 Speaker 2: needed a hug, and I gave you a hug. And 67 00:03:00,944 --> 00:03:02,864 Speaker 2: then he's like it's the first time I was ever papped. 68 00:03:03,104 --> 00:03:05,264 Speaker 2: But he's like, because paparazzi don't care about me, they 69 00:03:05,304 --> 00:03:07,704 Speaker 2: only care about Kesha, And those photos went everywhere, which 70 00:03:07,744 --> 00:03:09,944 Speaker 2: was quite cute. So it's a really nice interview. I 71 00:03:09,944 --> 00:03:11,584 Speaker 2: was listening to it being like, this is so cute. 72 00:03:11,584 --> 00:03:14,024 Speaker 2: I love hearing about her career where she's at her thoughts. 73 00:03:14,344 --> 00:03:16,984 Speaker 2: And then right at the end, Coder O'Brien asked her 74 00:03:17,024 --> 00:03:19,624 Speaker 2: what she does to relax, and she said she can't 75 00:03:19,664 --> 00:03:22,784 Speaker 2: really like bake or meditat or anything like that. Instead, 76 00:03:22,784 --> 00:03:25,504 Speaker 2: she likes to hunt down the supernatural, which led to 77 00:03:25,584 --> 00:03:27,504 Speaker 2: this little story coming out on the podcast. 78 00:03:27,744 --> 00:03:31,144 Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm filming a show. I'm the exec producer 79 00:03:31,384 --> 00:03:33,584 Speaker 4: filming the camera. Man, I forget what the camera is 80 00:03:33,584 --> 00:03:35,184 Speaker 4: called where it's like in bred where you can see 81 00:03:35,184 --> 00:03:37,904 Speaker 4: body heat. And so then on camera holding the camera, 82 00:03:37,984 --> 00:03:41,704 Speaker 4: watch this thing like crawl up Jake and crawl into 83 00:03:41,704 --> 00:03:44,104 Speaker 4: the ceiling. And it happened so fast, and I was like, Jake, 84 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:47,784 Speaker 4: there's the thing. And then that's how fast right? Filming 85 00:03:47,784 --> 00:03:51,624 Speaker 4: it exact same time, he like throws down a red 86 00:03:51,664 --> 00:03:54,264 Speaker 4: camera really expensive camera's like, oh my god, there's something 87 00:03:54,384 --> 00:03:57,624 Speaker 4: crawling on me, pulls his shirt up and there's three 88 00:03:57,664 --> 00:04:01,624 Speaker 4: scratch marks down his spine, and Chip Coffee comes over 89 00:04:02,344 --> 00:04:05,304 Speaker 4: and throws holy water on it, and then it heals. 90 00:04:05,304 --> 00:04:06,304 Speaker 4: And I'm like, what the. 91 00:04:06,264 --> 00:04:08,104 Speaker 2: Fuck is this? That's stunning? Do you have all that 92 00:04:08,144 --> 00:04:08,624 Speaker 2: on camera? 93 00:04:08,944 --> 00:04:12,784 Speaker 4: Yes? What he cares that's the craziest part. Care And 94 00:04:12,784 --> 00:04:16,064 Speaker 4: I'm like, nobody cares about these ghosts they've found. You're welcome, 95 00:04:16,344 --> 00:04:19,944 Speaker 4: but I've found so many Okay thoughts, do you know what? 96 00:04:20,624 --> 00:04:23,224 Speaker 3: I have watched these shows before, and I kind of 97 00:04:23,704 --> 00:04:25,104 Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about ghosts. 98 00:04:25,104 --> 00:04:26,384 Speaker 1: I don't know if they believe in them. 99 00:04:26,424 --> 00:04:30,184 Speaker 3: I definitely believe in something, but I've ever experienced. 100 00:04:29,544 --> 00:04:30,304 Speaker 1: Anything like it. 101 00:04:30,424 --> 00:04:32,944 Speaker 2: That's what Conan said, I love is it? Yeah? You 102 00:04:32,984 --> 00:04:34,224 Speaker 2: and ConA O'Brian the same person. 103 00:04:34,304 --> 00:04:34,464 Speaker 1: I know. 104 00:04:34,624 --> 00:04:36,024 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. 105 00:04:36,144 --> 00:04:37,344 Speaker 1: I do you know what? I take that as a 106 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:38,024 Speaker 1: massive compliment. 107 00:04:38,064 --> 00:04:39,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's in it. 108 00:04:39,784 --> 00:04:41,384 Speaker 1: That's I think he's very smart. 109 00:04:41,584 --> 00:04:45,544 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just feel like I appreciate her experience 110 00:04:45,584 --> 00:04:49,384 Speaker 3: if that's what she's seeing. And sure, I know lots 111 00:04:49,424 --> 00:04:52,624 Speaker 3: of people who've had experiences with like the supernatural and 112 00:04:52,624 --> 00:04:56,304 Speaker 3: ghosts and things like that. Me personally, I haven't, but 113 00:04:57,024 --> 00:04:58,864 Speaker 3: it kind of makes me like her more. 114 00:04:58,984 --> 00:05:02,024 Speaker 2: It really does. She always talks about her encounters with 115 00:05:02,024 --> 00:05:04,624 Speaker 2: a supernatural, but I just feel like people shove that 116 00:05:04,704 --> 00:05:07,624 Speaker 2: aside and just focus on her music, which is ridiculous 117 00:05:07,984 --> 00:05:10,584 Speaker 2: in this case. So she's had a TV show she 118 00:05:10,704 --> 00:05:13,984 Speaker 2: hunts down supernatural creatures, and she said because the show 119 00:05:14,104 --> 00:05:15,984 Speaker 2: didn't end up going ahead that now she just does 120 00:05:15,984 --> 00:05:17,864 Speaker 2: it in her own time and she goes to film it. 121 00:05:18,104 --> 00:05:20,544 Speaker 2: So she has talked about having sex with a ghost before. 122 00:05:20,864 --> 00:05:22,744 Speaker 2: I feel that she's she's in a stressful place at 123 00:05:22,744 --> 00:05:24,464 Speaker 2: the moment because she said she believes she's on her 124 00:05:24,544 --> 00:05:28,344 Speaker 2: last life cycle because she believes in reincarnation. So she's 125 00:05:28,384 --> 00:05:30,584 Speaker 2: in seeing a medicine woman to try and like get 126 00:05:30,584 --> 00:05:33,904 Speaker 2: her like soul ready for its last lap around the earth, 127 00:05:33,944 --> 00:05:36,144 Speaker 2: which I feel is just an extra bit of admin 128 00:05:36,304 --> 00:05:36,624 Speaker 2: to do. 129 00:05:37,144 --> 00:05:39,704 Speaker 1: It reminds me of like Phoebe from Friends. I feel 130 00:05:39,704 --> 00:05:41,584 Speaker 1: like I always bring it back to Friends, but you're. 131 00:05:41,464 --> 00:05:44,864 Speaker 2: Brand new, yeah yeah, which I feel that survived from 132 00:05:44,864 --> 00:05:47,064 Speaker 2: all of us. But Kesha Philer, she's on her last lap, 133 00:05:47,304 --> 00:05:50,144 Speaker 2: so she's also in her spare time now really kind 134 00:05:50,144 --> 00:05:53,504 Speaker 2: of leaning into the supernatural which is ghosts, and also 135 00:05:53,544 --> 00:05:56,104 Speaker 2: she does susquatch hunting, which I'm so jealous of because 136 00:05:56,144 --> 00:05:57,944 Speaker 2: I want to get into an outBut sasquatches is like 137 00:05:57,984 --> 00:06:00,584 Speaker 2: my side interest that I wish I could do a 138 00:06:00,584 --> 00:06:01,144 Speaker 2: podcast on. 139 00:06:01,264 --> 00:06:04,624 Speaker 3: Mamma also known as bit of Big Football Foots. Yeah yeah, 140 00:06:04,664 --> 00:06:06,584 Speaker 3: so's yes. 141 00:06:06,904 --> 00:06:09,224 Speaker 1: Nessy, Yeah yeah, okay, great love. 142 00:06:09,264 --> 00:06:11,504 Speaker 2: I'm just saying some of those things haven't been disproven anyway. 143 00:06:11,584 --> 00:06:14,424 Speaker 2: So now Kesha's on this ghost hunting in her spare 144 00:06:14,464 --> 00:06:17,624 Speaker 2: time as she relaunches her music career, and that particular 145 00:06:17,664 --> 00:06:20,704 Speaker 2: clip was taken. She's saying it so matter of factly, 146 00:06:20,744 --> 00:06:22,304 Speaker 2: Like the thing about the woman is she has she 147 00:06:22,384 --> 00:06:25,704 Speaker 2: believes in the supernatural, but she has absolutely no fear. 148 00:06:25,784 --> 00:06:28,544 Speaker 2: So that video was taken in an abandoned insane asylum, 149 00:06:29,064 --> 00:06:31,984 Speaker 2: so already red flag. You wouldn't go in there. No 150 00:06:32,024 --> 00:06:34,224 Speaker 2: one goes in there because the locals are all terrified. 151 00:06:34,344 --> 00:06:36,264 Speaker 2: She went in there with her friends and now were filming, 152 00:06:36,304 --> 00:06:38,344 Speaker 2: and they were in there for ages. She was saying 153 00:06:38,344 --> 00:06:40,224 Speaker 2: this is in the build up of her showing that clip, 154 00:06:40,584 --> 00:06:43,064 Speaker 2: and she's like, nothing was coming out. We knew there 155 00:06:43,104 --> 00:06:45,184 Speaker 2: were ghosts there, we knew there were demons. There, that's 156 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:47,904 Speaker 2: a wild cards like demons now enter the fray, and 157 00:06:47,944 --> 00:06:50,584 Speaker 2: so they started taunting the creatures to try and get 158 00:06:50,584 --> 00:06:52,864 Speaker 2: them to come out. And that's when she said in 159 00:06:52,904 --> 00:06:55,224 Speaker 2: that clip that that's when that demon ghost thing, because 160 00:06:55,224 --> 00:06:58,704 Speaker 2: she's not sure which one it was, attached itself to 161 00:06:59,184 --> 00:07:01,544 Speaker 2: that man and then left the scratches on his body. 162 00:07:01,544 --> 00:07:02,984 Speaker 2: And she's got it all on camera. And all I 163 00:07:02,984 --> 00:07:05,264 Speaker 2: want to say is Kesha, release the tapes. I want 164 00:07:05,264 --> 00:07:05,984 Speaker 2: to see the demon. 165 00:07:06,504 --> 00:07:10,064 Speaker 1: I don't want to see the demon, but I mean touched. 166 00:07:10,464 --> 00:07:12,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but I just think if you're going into 167 00:07:13,304 --> 00:07:16,304 Speaker 2: an asylum that's been abandoned for demons, like that's their turf, 168 00:07:16,384 --> 00:07:18,264 Speaker 2: it's like going into the ocean and being angry that 169 00:07:18,304 --> 00:07:20,784 Speaker 2: a shark bites you, going in there and being angry 170 00:07:20,784 --> 00:07:24,504 Speaker 2: that a demon crawls up your body and scratches all 171 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:25,344 Speaker 2: about the demons. 172 00:07:25,384 --> 00:07:27,824 Speaker 1: I don't like the demons. That's not nice or the ghosts. 173 00:07:27,864 --> 00:07:29,384 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, you wouldn't have sex with a ghost. 174 00:07:29,624 --> 00:07:30,424 Speaker 1: I'm still confused. 175 00:07:30,504 --> 00:07:33,824 Speaker 2: I'm married, so that's the only reason. 176 00:07:34,384 --> 00:07:37,104 Speaker 1: Sorry, But how does it work? Is it penetration? 177 00:07:37,424 --> 00:07:40,264 Speaker 2: I mean I haven't experienced it myself, but you know, 178 00:07:40,544 --> 00:07:42,624 Speaker 2: I'm still young this things could still happen for me. 179 00:07:43,424 --> 00:07:47,904 Speaker 2: I've still got time. From Kesha's sexual experience with a ghost, 180 00:07:48,064 --> 00:07:51,064 Speaker 2: the ghost came to her, they had a connection, so 181 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:53,144 Speaker 2: it was consensual and she was into it, and then 182 00:07:53,184 --> 00:07:55,944 Speaker 2: they had like a sexual experience. She didn't sort of 183 00:07:55,984 --> 00:07:59,584 Speaker 2: say exactly which body parts went where, but she's it 184 00:07:59,624 --> 00:08:03,584 Speaker 2: was enjoyable. Apparently, maybe that's the next frontier of dating, 185 00:08:03,664 --> 00:08:05,824 Speaker 2: because I'm just gonna say the dating pool in Sydney 186 00:08:05,904 --> 00:08:07,984 Speaker 2: is not great. Anyway, It's a great podcast. We're so 187 00:08:08,064 --> 00:08:10,984 Speaker 2: god Kesh's back. She's making music, she's out in the world, 188 00:08:11,344 --> 00:08:13,504 Speaker 2: she's hunting ghosts and demons and her spare time. All 189 00:08:13,504 --> 00:08:14,864 Speaker 2: link the podcast in the show notes so you can 190 00:08:14,904 --> 00:08:16,984 Speaker 2: listen to it. And if you dated a ghosts, please 191 00:08:17,024 --> 00:08:18,704 Speaker 2: do let us know because that is kind of where 192 00:08:18,704 --> 00:08:19,424 Speaker 2: I'm at the moment. 193 00:08:21,024 --> 00:08:24,384 Speaker 3: Okay, LB, In a move that has surprised absolutely no one, 194 00:08:25,024 --> 00:08:28,744 Speaker 3: Jojo See Why has pissed everyone off again with her 195 00:08:28,744 --> 00:08:30,504 Speaker 3: cover of Betty Davis. 196 00:08:30,144 --> 00:08:37,664 Speaker 2: Eyes How They d Ben Day? 197 00:08:39,784 --> 00:08:40,664 Speaker 1: Have you heard this cover? 198 00:08:41,304 --> 00:08:44,144 Speaker 2: Yes, I saw the teaser clips, I saw the video 199 00:08:44,224 --> 00:08:46,544 Speaker 2: clip where she's all done the old Hollywood style, and 200 00:08:46,584 --> 00:08:48,704 Speaker 2: I have listened to the release on Spotify. Yeah, okay, 201 00:08:48,744 --> 00:08:51,064 Speaker 2: so I've given her my streams and my attention in 202 00:08:51,144 --> 00:08:51,944 Speaker 2: every different platform. 203 00:08:51,944 --> 00:08:53,664 Speaker 3: Okay, So this was, you know, a cover of the 204 00:08:53,744 --> 00:08:58,024 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one hit by Kim Khns. And as with 205 00:08:58,224 --> 00:09:00,824 Speaker 3: sort of everything that Jojo Siwa does, there's a lot 206 00:09:00,824 --> 00:09:05,304 Speaker 3: of really negative backlash around it. Now, there was an 207 00:09:05,384 --> 00:09:10,904 Speaker 3: initial response from Kim Khn's which was then deleted, but 208 00:09:11,024 --> 00:09:14,104 Speaker 3: just before we started recording, she made a statement to 209 00:09:14,144 --> 00:09:16,944 Speaker 3: TMZ and this is what she said in response to it, 210 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:19,584 Speaker 3: And I think this is actually very very key. 211 00:09:19,704 --> 00:09:21,984 Speaker 1: In the statement to TMZ, she says. 212 00:09:22,104 --> 00:09:24,864 Speaker 3: When I first saw my original performance placed side by 213 00:09:24,904 --> 00:09:27,264 Speaker 3: side and then lay it on top of a new 214 00:09:27,344 --> 00:09:30,024 Speaker 3: version of Betty Davis Eye, I can only speak to 215 00:09:30,064 --> 00:09:33,824 Speaker 3: howard initially struck me. The phrasing, the tone, even the 216 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:38,664 Speaker 3: little inflections, it all felt a bit too close. And 217 00:09:38,744 --> 00:09:40,744 Speaker 3: I think this is the key thing here. I think 218 00:09:40,784 --> 00:09:44,064 Speaker 3: what's bothering people is not necessarily the fact that she's 219 00:09:44,104 --> 00:09:46,704 Speaker 3: doing a cover because she doesn't have original music at 220 00:09:46,704 --> 00:09:49,984 Speaker 3: the moment. I think it's the fact that usually when 221 00:09:50,064 --> 00:09:53,504 Speaker 3: a cover is done successfully, it's done so when you 222 00:09:53,544 --> 00:09:56,024 Speaker 3: reimagine it, think about, like I don't know if you 223 00:09:56,064 --> 00:09:58,864 Speaker 3: saw the g flip Cruel Summer when she did the 224 00:09:58,904 --> 00:10:01,584 Speaker 3: cover of a Taylor Swift's Cruel Summer that was beautiful, 225 00:10:01,984 --> 00:10:05,424 Speaker 3: or like Royal auto Otis's cover of Linger the Cranery song, 226 00:10:05,984 --> 00:10:07,944 Speaker 3: those two are really good, or any of like the 227 00:10:08,184 --> 00:10:10,664 Speaker 3: likeer versions that the people have done in the pass 228 00:10:10,784 --> 00:10:13,824 Speaker 3: on Triple Day. That is, when you reinterpret it and 229 00:10:13,944 --> 00:10:17,024 Speaker 3: use your artistic ability to re imagine a song, whereas 230 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:18,584 Speaker 3: Jojo hasn't done that. 231 00:10:18,664 --> 00:10:21,744 Speaker 1: She's literally you can listen to them side by side. 232 00:10:21,984 --> 00:10:25,904 Speaker 3: Even the raspiness in the voice is really jacked up 233 00:10:25,944 --> 00:10:29,064 Speaker 3: a lot in JoJo's version, which people find have found 234 00:10:29,184 --> 00:10:30,584 Speaker 3: a little bit frustrating. 235 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,104 Speaker 1: I think that's why people are so bothered by it. 236 00:10:33,024 --> 00:10:36,344 Speaker 3: Because it's almost just like a copy rather than a reinterpretation. 237 00:10:36,424 --> 00:10:38,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I guess that's the whole thing is, 238 00:10:38,424 --> 00:10:40,584 Speaker 2: like artists always cover each other's song, but when they 239 00:10:40,584 --> 00:10:43,064 Speaker 2: do it live, it's often like a really kind of 240 00:10:43,224 --> 00:10:46,624 Speaker 2: stripped back acoustic version, or even like was I Gwnneth 241 00:10:46,624 --> 00:10:48,984 Speaker 2: Paltrow who covered this song many many years ago, Betty 242 00:10:49,064 --> 00:10:50,784 Speaker 2: Davis Eyes, I feel like that was like one of 243 00:10:50,824 --> 00:10:52,944 Speaker 2: my first introductions to it because I was a child 244 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:55,824 Speaker 2: and I didn't have a good musical knowledge. But when 245 00:10:55,864 --> 00:10:58,304 Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltrow would sing it in that movie Duets, or 246 00:10:58,304 --> 00:10:59,984 Speaker 2: when she got up on stage because she like toured 247 00:11:00,024 --> 00:11:01,824 Speaker 2: around that song, she was like her party tricks. She 248 00:11:01,824 --> 00:11:03,664 Speaker 2: would do it everywhere. But she had a bit of 249 00:11:03,704 --> 00:11:07,264 Speaker 2: a kind of a sweeter interpretation of it. She didn't 250 00:11:07,304 --> 00:11:09,784 Speaker 2: have that really intense raspiness. So I don't think anyone 251 00:11:09,824 --> 00:11:11,664 Speaker 2: jumped on her. But I think, yeah, I think with 252 00:11:11,784 --> 00:11:14,344 Speaker 2: Jojo Siewa, it maybe looks a bit like a copy 253 00:11:14,344 --> 00:11:16,784 Speaker 2: and paste. I can understand why she's done it, though, 254 00:11:16,824 --> 00:11:20,304 Speaker 2: because the whole kind of backstory to this song. I mean, 255 00:11:20,344 --> 00:11:22,144 Speaker 2: the last time we talked about Jojo Siewa was when 256 00:11:22,144 --> 00:11:24,064 Speaker 2: she was blowing up into world wide news because she 257 00:11:24,104 --> 00:11:27,064 Speaker 2: was on Celebrity Big Brother. She was in a relationship 258 00:11:27,104 --> 00:11:29,984 Speaker 2: with an Australian Kath Ebbs, and we watched that whole 259 00:11:29,984 --> 00:11:32,344 Speaker 2: thing unfold where she was in the house with Chris Hughes. 260 00:11:32,624 --> 00:11:35,664 Speaker 2: They had this intense flotation the whole way through. I 261 00:11:35,704 --> 00:11:37,144 Speaker 2: was one of the people who said it wouldn't work 262 00:11:37,144 --> 00:11:39,424 Speaker 2: in the real world. Well I was wrong. I mean, 263 00:11:39,424 --> 00:11:41,904 Speaker 2: we'll see, but like they really they're together. So she 264 00:11:41,984 --> 00:11:45,144 Speaker 2: broke up with kath at the after party, and then 265 00:11:45,184 --> 00:11:47,584 Speaker 2: she and Chris Hughes. They were photographed in the days 266 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:50,344 Speaker 2: after Big Brother, but then she went back to America 267 00:11:50,744 --> 00:11:53,984 Speaker 2: and they weren't photographed together. Then holiday picks started coming 268 00:11:53,984 --> 00:11:55,944 Speaker 2: out of them. And this is where the song comes in, 269 00:11:55,984 --> 00:11:58,704 Speaker 2: because then Jojo went on a tour she Want to 270 00:11:58,784 --> 00:12:01,504 Speaker 2: Live tour, and in the tour, she would sing Betty 271 00:12:01,584 --> 00:12:05,504 Speaker 2: Davis Eyes, but she would switch out Betty Davis Eyes 272 00:12:05,704 --> 00:12:09,784 Speaker 2: for Chris Hughes's eyes. He was always in the audience 273 00:12:09,784 --> 00:12:11,944 Speaker 2: for a lot of these live shows, sitting next to 274 00:12:11,984 --> 00:12:16,184 Speaker 2: her mum, Jesslyn, and the fans would just lose their minds, 275 00:12:16,264 --> 00:12:18,544 Speaker 2: especially once it started. That clip of her saying Chris 276 00:12:18,664 --> 00:12:21,664 Speaker 2: Hughes's eyes started going a bit viral that everyone in 277 00:12:21,664 --> 00:12:23,824 Speaker 2: the audience was waiting for that moment. As soon as 278 00:12:23,864 --> 00:12:26,544 Speaker 2: she did it, they would scream, and so I understand 279 00:12:26,544 --> 00:12:29,344 Speaker 2: why she was like, this song's going viral. People love 280 00:12:29,384 --> 00:12:32,224 Speaker 2: my rendition of it. She did all these little teasers 281 00:12:32,344 --> 00:12:34,304 Speaker 2: of it online and then she kept sort of saying 282 00:12:34,344 --> 00:12:36,384 Speaker 2: like it's like she was like baiting her audience. She's like, 283 00:12:36,384 --> 00:12:38,264 Speaker 2: what do you want next. She's like, I've done this cover, 284 00:12:38,344 --> 00:12:39,864 Speaker 2: and then she's like, I've done the film clip. And 285 00:12:39,904 --> 00:12:42,264 Speaker 2: she released these teasers and then she kept saying should 286 00:12:42,304 --> 00:12:44,344 Speaker 2: I release it on Spotify? Should I release it? And 287 00:12:44,344 --> 00:12:46,144 Speaker 2: obviously she was going to release it all along, but 288 00:12:46,184 --> 00:12:48,744 Speaker 2: it was like building the hype, and so I do 289 00:12:48,784 --> 00:12:50,384 Speaker 2: think that she was thinking that there would be a 290 00:12:50,424 --> 00:12:52,224 Speaker 2: different reaction to it. 291 00:12:52,344 --> 00:12:54,464 Speaker 3: I think that there's a clip of it that I 292 00:12:54,544 --> 00:12:58,184 Speaker 3: watched earlier today and it really makes me cringe because 293 00:12:58,224 --> 00:13:01,744 Speaker 3: everyone's like turning around and putting the cameras in his 294 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:07,184 Speaker 3: face and he's just sitting there and he's like, Honestly, 295 00:13:07,304 --> 00:13:11,144 Speaker 3: that were me, I think I would crawl back into myself. 296 00:13:11,704 --> 00:13:16,384 Speaker 2: Likes he's a reality star who he's on multiple reality shows. 297 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:18,544 Speaker 2: I think he does like Jojo Siwa. I mean, you know, 298 00:13:18,624 --> 00:13:20,464 Speaker 2: if you listen to them, they're crazy in love, and 299 00:13:20,464 --> 00:13:22,744 Speaker 2: I'm sure they are, but I also think he alone 300 00:13:22,864 --> 00:13:25,184 Speaker 2: being crazy in love. He very much loves the attention 301 00:13:25,264 --> 00:13:27,104 Speaker 2: that she brings him. So that's why he was at 302 00:13:27,104 --> 00:13:29,904 Speaker 2: the concerts because he was like wanting to be photographed 303 00:13:29,944 --> 00:13:30,424 Speaker 2: by people. 304 00:13:30,624 --> 00:13:33,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand why she's done it, and I get that. 305 00:13:33,504 --> 00:13:36,784 Speaker 3: I get that she got that viral moment, and she 306 00:13:36,904 --> 00:13:41,624 Speaker 3: wanted to kind of replicate it and continue to release music. However, 307 00:13:42,304 --> 00:13:47,424 Speaker 3: because it is such a copy, it just feels inauthentic, 308 00:13:47,944 --> 00:13:51,784 Speaker 3: and it doesn't It feels like a karaoke recording rather 309 00:13:51,904 --> 00:13:55,904 Speaker 3: than a legitimate artistic expression. 310 00:13:56,464 --> 00:13:58,184 Speaker 1: And I know that sounds a little bit wanky, but 311 00:13:58,584 --> 00:13:59,504 Speaker 1: you know, Kim went. 312 00:13:59,384 --> 00:14:02,224 Speaker 3: On to say in the same statement to DMZ, I 313 00:14:02,264 --> 00:14:04,664 Speaker 3: believe artists have the right to speak openly about how 314 00:14:04,704 --> 00:14:08,224 Speaker 3: something makes them feel, especially when it's as personal as 315 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:10,984 Speaker 3: your voice. These days, our voice is one of the 316 00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:13,624 Speaker 3: few things we truly own, so when it feels like 317 00:14:13,664 --> 00:14:16,944 Speaker 3: your voice is being borrowed, it strikes a deep personal chord. 318 00:14:17,504 --> 00:14:19,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I definitely get that because she would 319 00:14:19,744 --> 00:14:22,504 Speaker 2: be watching all of this unfold and feeling that her 320 00:14:22,504 --> 00:14:25,384 Speaker 2: song's been disrespected. So I totally believe that. I also 321 00:14:25,384 --> 00:14:27,344 Speaker 2: feel for Jojo because I don't know, I've been watching 322 00:14:27,384 --> 00:14:29,544 Speaker 2: this woman now, I guess on screen since she was 323 00:14:29,584 --> 00:14:32,104 Speaker 2: a tiny, tiny child, because even though I don't watch 324 00:14:32,184 --> 00:14:35,664 Speaker 2: reality TV, I weirdly watched Dance Mums and she's so 325 00:14:35,784 --> 00:14:37,664 Speaker 2: cute and sweet on that and she just went through 326 00:14:37,704 --> 00:14:39,184 Speaker 2: such a terrible time and I think a lot of 327 00:14:39,184 --> 00:14:42,264 Speaker 2: people have also watched her over the years, and she 328 00:14:42,304 --> 00:14:44,224 Speaker 2: shares so much of her life online that you feel 329 00:14:44,224 --> 00:14:46,504 Speaker 2: like you know her personality. So I feel like she 330 00:14:46,544 --> 00:14:49,304 Speaker 2: would be very crushed by that. At the same time, 331 00:14:49,464 --> 00:14:51,784 Speaker 2: I feel like almost that's the price you pay for 332 00:14:51,824 --> 00:14:54,624 Speaker 2: the kind of performances that she does, because I know 333 00:14:54,744 --> 00:14:58,304 Speaker 2: that Jojo has like a hugely successful empire, but a 334 00:14:58,344 --> 00:15:01,424 Speaker 2: lot of that is built on her branding and her dancing, 335 00:15:01,464 --> 00:15:03,584 Speaker 2: and she's released a lot of music, but she's not 336 00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:06,264 Speaker 2: the type of artist who has a huge back catalog 337 00:15:06,344 --> 00:15:08,064 Speaker 2: of music that will keep her in the charts that 338 00:15:08,104 --> 00:15:12,464 Speaker 2: she can tour, especially as her fan is aging and changing. 339 00:15:12,744 --> 00:15:14,304 Speaker 2: And so that's why I think she did that whole 340 00:15:14,344 --> 00:15:16,624 Speaker 2: thing with Karma like it was. I mean, that song's fine, 341 00:15:16,664 --> 00:15:18,984 Speaker 2: it's like a cute pop song, but it was stunt 342 00:15:19,544 --> 00:15:21,904 Speaker 2: releasing like it was a stunt in terms of like 343 00:15:22,144 --> 00:15:25,664 Speaker 2: her big makeover, which she's completely not followed up on. 344 00:15:26,184 --> 00:15:27,784 Speaker 2: She's like the one girl who goes to a goth 345 00:15:27,824 --> 00:15:29,784 Speaker 2: party once and then just like wears her same pink 346 00:15:29,824 --> 00:15:30,504 Speaker 2: top the next day. 347 00:15:30,624 --> 00:15:32,904 Speaker 1: I think the thing is as well with Karma. 348 00:15:33,064 --> 00:15:36,104 Speaker 3: What happened is there was so much negative backlash around it, 349 00:15:36,184 --> 00:15:37,144 Speaker 3: particularly around. 350 00:15:36,944 --> 00:15:40,904 Speaker 1: The dance which, yeah, it was just so viral. 351 00:15:41,424 --> 00:15:43,944 Speaker 3: It was almost like she's she knows that there's going 352 00:15:43,984 --> 00:15:48,704 Speaker 3: to be this negative backlash on anything she does, so 353 00:15:48,744 --> 00:15:51,704 Speaker 3: she's like, why don't I just lean into it because 354 00:15:51,704 --> 00:15:53,704 Speaker 3: it doesn't seem I mean, I'm sure it bothers her. 355 00:15:53,904 --> 00:15:56,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure. I don't think she's chasing negative because 356 00:15:56,224 --> 00:15:58,984 Speaker 2: she had positive reinforcement her whole time being a child 357 00:15:58,984 --> 00:16:01,144 Speaker 2: and teen star, not from the people on Dance Moms, 358 00:16:01,224 --> 00:16:03,744 Speaker 2: but from her fans, Like her fans loved her like 359 00:16:03,824 --> 00:16:06,064 Speaker 2: you can't stress enough, we're not the right age demo 360 00:16:06,104 --> 00:16:08,064 Speaker 2: fab but you can't stress enough how much kids loved her, 361 00:16:08,064 --> 00:16:10,784 Speaker 2: Like I remember her going on the Kardashians, like all 362 00:16:10,784 --> 00:16:12,944 Speaker 2: the Kardashian kids were so obsessed with her and they 363 00:16:13,024 --> 00:16:16,544 Speaker 2: were so starstruck, And like Kim Kardashian was starstruck because 364 00:16:16,824 --> 00:16:18,584 Speaker 2: she was such a huge thing in America at the time. 365 00:16:18,744 --> 00:16:21,184 Speaker 2: But I think Karma was very stunt kind of pop 366 00:16:21,184 --> 00:16:23,464 Speaker 2: star act in terms of like she's a stunt performer, 367 00:16:23,784 --> 00:16:26,024 Speaker 2: she has to shock people a little bit, and because 368 00:16:26,024 --> 00:16:28,104 Speaker 2: she did that whole shocking release for that and then 369 00:16:28,104 --> 00:16:30,664 Speaker 2: it died down. She needed something else, and so it 370 00:16:30,744 --> 00:16:33,504 Speaker 2: was releasing this song that she knew people would either 371 00:16:33,544 --> 00:16:36,944 Speaker 2: obsess over because of the reaction to Chris or they 372 00:16:36,984 --> 00:16:38,624 Speaker 2: would be like, what the hell is she doing? Why 373 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:40,184 Speaker 2: is she doing it like this? Like I think she 374 00:16:40,264 --> 00:16:42,904 Speaker 2: just needs that. I don't think it would end the 375 00:16:42,904 --> 00:16:45,024 Speaker 2: same with her. She just released a song kind of 376 00:16:45,024 --> 00:16:46,904 Speaker 2: like as herself and it was just a nice song, 377 00:16:46,984 --> 00:16:48,864 Speaker 2: Like she needs that stunt element to it. 378 00:16:49,024 --> 00:16:52,384 Speaker 1: She needs to reach out to g flip because they're mates. 379 00:16:52,504 --> 00:16:53,784 Speaker 1: Well they were mates. 380 00:16:53,904 --> 00:16:56,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how she met, That's how she got So 381 00:16:56,704 --> 00:16:58,464 Speaker 2: she needs to reach out. I wonder if they're talking 382 00:16:58,504 --> 00:16:59,984 Speaker 2: though after that whole situation. 383 00:17:00,264 --> 00:17:02,944 Speaker 1: Reach out to g flip, get some tips, yes on 384 00:17:02,984 --> 00:17:03,744 Speaker 1: how to do a cover? 385 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:06,464 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because again I got a soft spot for 386 00:17:06,464 --> 00:17:08,904 Speaker 2: that girl. I have to say, even with everything else happened, 387 00:17:08,984 --> 00:17:10,304 Speaker 2: and I would just love her to just be able 388 00:17:10,304 --> 00:17:12,984 Speaker 2: to release a song in that cute, little raspy voice 389 00:17:13,064 --> 00:17:15,624 Speaker 2: without getting completely dragged over the coals in every corner 390 00:17:15,624 --> 00:17:16,104 Speaker 2: of the internet. 391 00:17:16,144 --> 00:17:18,944 Speaker 1: Well, considering my voice is very raspy at the moment. 392 00:17:19,584 --> 00:17:23,264 Speaker 4: Betty David Bernie days us it's. 393 00:17:23,144 --> 00:17:27,064 Speaker 2: Like JoJo's in the room with us. I know, Okay, 394 00:17:27,064 --> 00:17:29,264 Speaker 2: I just want to preface this next segment. We're saying, 395 00:17:29,544 --> 00:17:31,784 Speaker 2: I know I'm a trash person. Okay, I know I'm 396 00:17:31,824 --> 00:17:33,504 Speaker 2: a trash person for bringing this up and for what 397 00:17:33,544 --> 00:17:36,184 Speaker 2: I'm about to say, But don't defend me. 398 00:17:36,824 --> 00:17:39,584 Speaker 3: Okay, I won't defend what you was gonna say that 399 00:17:39,664 --> 00:17:43,024 Speaker 3: it's like positive what we're saying, but it's it's like 400 00:17:43,064 --> 00:17:44,544 Speaker 3: a bit sialacious, gonna be gossipy. 401 00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:47,184 Speaker 2: No, I know, looking at paparazzi photos is wrong in 402 00:17:47,344 --> 00:17:51,264 Speaker 2: saying that. So new paparazzi photos, we won't reshare them, 403 00:17:51,304 --> 00:17:53,264 Speaker 2: so if your eyes come across them, that's on you. 404 00:17:53,384 --> 00:17:56,944 Speaker 2: On another platform, some new paparazzi photos have come out 405 00:17:57,024 --> 00:18:01,224 Speaker 2: of Reese with a spoon in a very luxurious looking spot. 406 00:18:01,304 --> 00:18:04,344 Speaker 2: She's on holiday. She's doing, you know, making the most 407 00:18:04,424 --> 00:18:06,064 Speaker 2: of the summer months on that side of the world. 408 00:18:06,344 --> 00:18:10,984 Speaker 2: She looks incredible and she is full on passionate making 409 00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:14,744 Speaker 2: out with her new boyfriend, Oliver Harmon. I love it. 410 00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:18,504 Speaker 2: So they're in Saint Tropez in France, out of a 411 00:18:18,624 --> 00:18:19,864 Speaker 2: beautiful luxury yacht. 412 00:18:20,064 --> 00:18:23,504 Speaker 3: She's wearing white swimmers. It's all very they're all wet 413 00:18:23,664 --> 00:18:26,904 Speaker 3: and they're kissing and they're on boats. Yeah, it's very 414 00:18:27,104 --> 00:18:30,424 Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos coated exactly, and look jealous. That's all I'm 415 00:18:30,424 --> 00:18:31,104 Speaker 3: going to say on that. 416 00:18:31,384 --> 00:18:33,024 Speaker 1: So, Hi, I want to be in a boat in 417 00:18:33,064 --> 00:18:33,624 Speaker 1: santra Pez. 418 00:18:33,784 --> 00:18:35,184 Speaker 2: I know I wouldn't even care if I was making 419 00:18:35,184 --> 00:18:38,184 Speaker 2: out with a finance bro like she is. Anyway, Reese Witherspoon, 420 00:18:38,224 --> 00:18:41,024 Speaker 2: she's been linked to this man since October of last year, 421 00:18:41,064 --> 00:18:43,224 Speaker 2: but this is the first time they've really been seen 422 00:18:43,704 --> 00:18:48,064 Speaker 2: in this very passionate kissing situation. So she divorced Jim 423 00:18:48,104 --> 00:18:51,224 Speaker 2: Toff after many years of marriage. They share a son together, 424 00:18:51,384 --> 00:18:54,264 Speaker 2: and that didn't really make a lot of headlines, which 425 00:18:54,304 --> 00:18:56,664 Speaker 2: I'm glad because she so went through the ringer after 426 00:18:56,744 --> 00:19:00,144 Speaker 2: her divorce from Ryan Philippe just because of the fact 427 00:19:00,144 --> 00:19:01,624 Speaker 2: that they were in movies together and they were the 428 00:19:01,624 --> 00:19:04,064 Speaker 2: two hottest things in Hollywood at the time. So I 429 00:19:04,104 --> 00:19:05,984 Speaker 2: do love that she sort of had that divorce and 430 00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:09,024 Speaker 2: people talked about it, but people weren't attacking her that 431 00:19:09,344 --> 00:19:11,384 Speaker 2: I could see at least, and she wasn't getting bombarded 432 00:19:11,424 --> 00:19:13,504 Speaker 2: in an interview, has been asked about it. It's like 433 00:19:13,544 --> 00:19:16,024 Speaker 2: they actually could just separate and go their separate ways. 434 00:19:16,304 --> 00:19:19,744 Speaker 2: So everyone's loving these photos. And what's kind of interesting 435 00:19:19,784 --> 00:19:22,944 Speaker 2: about it is that I don't think that she'd call 436 00:19:23,024 --> 00:19:25,304 Speaker 2: the paparazzi or set it up or anything like that. 437 00:19:25,424 --> 00:19:27,224 Speaker 2: I don't feel like Reese with a Spoon is quite 438 00:19:27,784 --> 00:19:28,704 Speaker 2: that type of star. 439 00:19:28,944 --> 00:19:30,224 Speaker 1: I've seen the photos. They're not. 440 00:19:30,864 --> 00:19:32,704 Speaker 2: Well, this is how you can tell. That's important to 441 00:19:32,744 --> 00:19:35,144 Speaker 2: note which paparazzi photos are set up and which are not, 442 00:19:35,264 --> 00:19:38,184 Speaker 2: because I think they just knew they would get papped 443 00:19:38,504 --> 00:19:40,544 Speaker 2: and they were very happy to have that done. And 444 00:19:40,624 --> 00:19:43,264 Speaker 2: Reese with a Spoon lives in a lot of Hollywood hotspots. 445 00:19:43,304 --> 00:19:45,184 Speaker 2: She lives in like Brentwood in California. I don't know 446 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,144 Speaker 2: if you've been there, but like you can go there 447 00:19:47,184 --> 00:19:49,264 Speaker 2: and do star spotting if you can kind of get 448 00:19:49,264 --> 00:19:51,744 Speaker 2: through the gates. Because there's like one supermarket all the 449 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:54,544 Speaker 2: celebrities go to. There's like one beach area they will 450 00:19:54,544 --> 00:19:56,944 Speaker 2: go to, and Reese with a Spoon's always papped around there. 451 00:19:57,104 --> 00:19:58,984 Speaker 2: But it's just an understood thing that if you go 452 00:19:58,984 --> 00:20:00,864 Speaker 2: out there, you get papped. And the photos don't sell 453 00:20:00,864 --> 00:20:02,984 Speaker 2: that well because like how many photos of Reese with 454 00:20:03,024 --> 00:20:05,264 Speaker 2: a Spoon in like a white dress walking into a 455 00:20:05,264 --> 00:20:08,024 Speaker 2: shopping center, can you sell? So I think in this 456 00:20:08,144 --> 00:20:10,344 Speaker 2: area they knew they were being papped, they didn't care. 457 00:20:10,744 --> 00:20:13,704 Speaker 2: And I think it's a very old school Hollywood of them. 458 00:20:13,984 --> 00:20:16,464 Speaker 1: To by old school. We need like two thousands. 459 00:20:16,664 --> 00:20:19,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, our kind of old school like back in 460 00:20:19,064 --> 00:20:21,744 Speaker 2: the day where you didn't want to announce it via 461 00:20:21,824 --> 00:20:24,464 Speaker 2: a red carpet photo because that's that's a very big, bold, 462 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:28,584 Speaker 2: intense statement to walk a red carpet together and post together. 463 00:20:28,744 --> 00:20:31,584 Speaker 2: It's very, very very public. Also, a lot of people 464 00:20:31,624 --> 00:20:34,104 Speaker 2: do like a social media hard launch now, but again 465 00:20:34,224 --> 00:20:36,584 Speaker 2: that is also not seen as kind of like the 466 00:20:36,624 --> 00:20:39,224 Speaker 2: cool girl, old school Hollywood thing to do. So the 467 00:20:39,344 --> 00:20:41,704 Speaker 2: thing to do is to kind of let yourself be 468 00:20:41,824 --> 00:20:46,824 Speaker 2: papped in a very exotic location and let the photos 469 00:20:46,824 --> 00:20:49,224 Speaker 2: go everywhere. So then you have the hard launch that 470 00:20:49,304 --> 00:20:52,824 Speaker 2: you wanted, but you are not sort of seen to 471 00:20:52,864 --> 00:20:54,744 Speaker 2: be pushing it or having a hand in it. So 472 00:20:54,744 --> 00:20:57,224 Speaker 2: we've seen this done before when celebrities want to announce 473 00:20:57,224 --> 00:20:59,864 Speaker 2: a relationship, particularly if there's been some drama behind it, 474 00:20:59,904 --> 00:21:02,664 Speaker 2: Because this is how let us not forget that Brad 475 00:21:02,664 --> 00:21:06,184 Speaker 2: Pitt and Angelina jolly announced their relationship. Remember that, because 476 00:21:06,184 --> 00:21:07,904 Speaker 2: they can't walk a red carpet together after the whole 477 00:21:07,944 --> 00:21:10,784 Speaker 2: Jennif Andison thing. They don't have social media, they couldn't 478 00:21:10,784 --> 00:21:12,784 Speaker 2: post to it. They didn't want to be pathed walking 479 00:21:12,784 --> 00:21:16,224 Speaker 2: the streets of la and in an uncontrolled environment, So 480 00:21:16,224 --> 00:21:18,544 Speaker 2: they invited one photographer to come to this little I 481 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:21,664 Speaker 2: think it was in Cambodia, this little, very secluded beach 482 00:21:21,744 --> 00:21:25,664 Speaker 2: and take these really peaceful photos of them with her son, Maddox, 483 00:21:25,704 --> 00:21:27,344 Speaker 2: who was the only child they had at the time, 484 00:21:27,824 --> 00:21:30,144 Speaker 2: just wading around the water and they look very calm 485 00:21:30,184 --> 00:21:32,104 Speaker 2: and serene. And so that was the way they introed it. 486 00:21:32,384 --> 00:21:34,984 Speaker 2: And then recently we saw Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster 487 00:21:35,104 --> 00:21:38,984 Speaker 2: hard launched their relationship through very staged paparazzi photos which 488 00:21:38,984 --> 00:21:42,824 Speaker 2: again controlled environment them like walking slowly down the street 489 00:21:42,864 --> 00:21:46,944 Speaker 2: towards the camera. They're all dressed beautifully. They're posed so 490 00:21:47,064 --> 00:21:49,264 Speaker 2: different to the photos that came out about them, like 491 00:21:49,304 --> 00:21:50,984 Speaker 2: in the days that led up, so you can always 492 00:21:51,024 --> 00:21:53,824 Speaker 2: see if you look at them, which ones are staged 493 00:21:53,824 --> 00:21:54,544 Speaker 2: and which ones are not. 494 00:21:54,704 --> 00:21:58,504 Speaker 3: So these particular photos, I'm trying to say this delicately, 495 00:21:58,944 --> 00:22:00,904 Speaker 3: I don't think they were staged because they are not 496 00:22:00,944 --> 00:22:01,904 Speaker 3: particularly fluttering. 497 00:22:02,184 --> 00:22:03,744 Speaker 2: I know exactly what you mean. So this is the 498 00:22:03,744 --> 00:22:06,464 Speaker 2: thing between staged and set up. Yeah. 499 00:22:07,184 --> 00:22:09,104 Speaker 3: And the reason and I say this is because I 500 00:22:09,144 --> 00:22:11,544 Speaker 3: know what a beautiful woman reads Witherspoon is. I also 501 00:22:11,584 --> 00:22:14,064 Speaker 3: know what perhaps do and they take. If it's not 502 00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:18,544 Speaker 3: a post one, they will choose the least flattering images 503 00:22:19,464 --> 00:22:22,824 Speaker 3: that they possibly can. Now what the tabloids have done 504 00:22:22,864 --> 00:22:26,424 Speaker 3: now is they don't say anything about the fact that 505 00:22:26,464 --> 00:22:28,904 Speaker 3: it's a bad image. Yeah, so you know our back 506 00:22:29,224 --> 00:22:31,264 Speaker 3: back in our like when we were growing up, it 507 00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:32,824 Speaker 3: was like ooh, belly. 508 00:22:33,584 --> 00:22:38,024 Speaker 1: You know, they talk display. They don't do that anymore. 509 00:22:38,024 --> 00:22:40,864 Speaker 3: They ignore it, but they know that people will look 510 00:22:40,904 --> 00:22:44,304 Speaker 3: at those images and make those negative comments about it 511 00:22:44,344 --> 00:22:45,944 Speaker 3: without them saying a word. 512 00:22:46,224 --> 00:22:46,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 513 00:22:47,064 --> 00:22:49,424 Speaker 3: It's very calculated because you look at those photos and 514 00:22:49,464 --> 00:22:52,024 Speaker 3: you go, come on, guy, like one of the most 515 00:22:52,064 --> 00:22:55,504 Speaker 3: beautiful women in Hollywood, and those are the photos that 516 00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:56,184 Speaker 3: you sold. 517 00:22:56,424 --> 00:22:58,024 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing to look at is that you can 518 00:22:58,064 --> 00:23:01,384 Speaker 2: do a stage kiss. It's like how people practice kissing 519 00:23:01,464 --> 00:23:03,624 Speaker 2: for I guess like movie scenes, or even some people 520 00:23:03,624 --> 00:23:05,544 Speaker 2: do it for their weddings, where you have to put 521 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:07,744 Speaker 2: your lips together but don't actually let them touch and 522 00:23:07,744 --> 00:23:10,584 Speaker 2: hold your faces together, because the thing, actual kiss thing 523 00:23:11,264 --> 00:23:13,864 Speaker 2: looks awful in pictures and on camera unless you do 524 00:23:13,904 --> 00:23:14,984 Speaker 2: it in a really staged way. 525 00:23:15,144 --> 00:23:20,104 Speaker 3: Because So I did a guest spot on Home and 526 00:23:20,144 --> 00:23:23,224 Speaker 3: Away Love That for you a long time ago, and 527 00:23:23,544 --> 00:23:25,864 Speaker 3: my role was basically I was like the girlfriend of 528 00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:28,584 Speaker 3: this guy and I had to drive the car up, 529 00:23:28,624 --> 00:23:30,104 Speaker 3: we had to kiss, and then he got out of 530 00:23:30,144 --> 00:23:31,664 Speaker 3: the car and that was it. I just said bye, 531 00:23:31,784 --> 00:23:33,344 Speaker 3: like that was my spot. It was like a one 532 00:23:33,384 --> 00:23:34,704 Speaker 3: day shoot. I was an extra. 533 00:23:34,944 --> 00:23:36,384 Speaker 2: I hope you got a looking on for that. 534 00:23:36,464 --> 00:23:38,584 Speaker 3: I had to kiss him like probably thirty or forty 535 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:41,344 Speaker 3: times throughout the day. At the beginning of the shoot, 536 00:23:41,344 --> 00:23:43,384 Speaker 3: the guy says to me, because the first kiss that 537 00:23:43,424 --> 00:23:45,824 Speaker 3: we did, I was I just did like a kiss. 538 00:23:46,304 --> 00:23:48,504 Speaker 3: And then as the day progressed, he was like, we 539 00:23:48,504 --> 00:23:50,384 Speaker 3: need to use tongue because it's more authentic. 540 00:23:50,584 --> 00:23:51,984 Speaker 1: Oh, And I was like. 541 00:23:51,984 --> 00:23:55,784 Speaker 2: Okay, intimacy coordinator in that situation. 542 00:23:55,424 --> 00:23:55,584 Speaker 3: I know. 543 00:23:55,664 --> 00:23:57,544 Speaker 1: So I just had to pash this guy for the 544 00:23:57,704 --> 00:23:58,384 Speaker 1: entire day. 545 00:23:59,064 --> 00:24:00,424 Speaker 2: Sounds like he was just taking on a bit of 546 00:24:00,464 --> 00:24:01,464 Speaker 2: directing into his own hair. 547 00:24:01,504 --> 00:24:04,024 Speaker 3: It was funny, like on reflection, I was like, I 548 00:24:04,064 --> 00:24:07,344 Speaker 3: didn't need to pash you yeah, but yes, so not 549 00:24:07,384 --> 00:24:09,664 Speaker 3: always a movie kiss, not always a movie hiss. 550 00:24:09,704 --> 00:24:11,424 Speaker 2: No, well that's see what these photos is that like, 551 00:24:11,464 --> 00:24:14,184 Speaker 2: they don't look bad at all, but they are obviously 552 00:24:14,224 --> 00:24:16,304 Speaker 2: Like it's not like Reese I think was like telling 553 00:24:16,344 --> 00:24:18,504 Speaker 2: the camera where to be. What I think happened is 554 00:24:18,504 --> 00:24:20,624 Speaker 2: and this is what stars do, is that they've gone 555 00:24:20,624 --> 00:24:23,704 Speaker 2: to Saint Torpey, France the summer months, in a very 556 00:24:23,704 --> 00:24:25,824 Speaker 2: hot spot area. So you know you're going to be papped. 557 00:24:25,864 --> 00:24:27,784 Speaker 2: It's more so that you're like, I'm happy for our 558 00:24:27,824 --> 00:24:29,784 Speaker 2: relationship to be out in the world. I'm not going 559 00:24:29,864 --> 00:24:32,264 Speaker 2: to call the peraps. They'll find us and I don't 560 00:24:32,264 --> 00:24:35,184 Speaker 2: care if the world knows. And that's the photos we saw. 561 00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:37,384 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, the thing is, she looks very happy. 562 00:24:37,464 --> 00:24:39,664 Speaker 2: She's like they're making out to such an extreme that 563 00:24:39,704 --> 00:24:40,664 Speaker 2: I'm just very happy for he. 564 00:24:40,864 --> 00:24:43,224 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. She looks so happy and I 565 00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:43,904 Speaker 1: love that for her. 566 00:24:44,144 --> 00:24:48,584 Speaker 3: What I also love We've also got another like in 567 00:24:48,664 --> 00:24:51,744 Speaker 3: that same group. I would say, yea, yeah, Reese Witherspoon 568 00:24:51,904 --> 00:24:53,504 Speaker 3: is in the same group as this other stuff. 569 00:24:53,624 --> 00:24:55,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're co stars. N they're both on the morning 570 00:24:55,664 --> 00:24:56,184 Speaker 2: show together. 571 00:24:56,264 --> 00:24:58,464 Speaker 3: They are they are so Jennifer Aniston. I mean, we've 572 00:24:58,464 --> 00:25:01,064 Speaker 3: been obsessed with her love life for a very very 573 00:25:01,104 --> 00:25:06,344 Speaker 3: long time, and now we have some more information about 574 00:25:06,504 --> 00:25:08,544 Speaker 3: Jim Curtis, who is her new boyfriend. 575 00:25:09,184 --> 00:25:10,784 Speaker 1: So he's hot. 576 00:25:11,424 --> 00:25:13,304 Speaker 2: We yeah, but we just say that straight off the bat. 577 00:25:13,304 --> 00:25:16,104 Speaker 2: And again these are paparazzi photos, but it must be said. 578 00:25:16,184 --> 00:25:16,824 Speaker 2: It's a hot man. 579 00:25:16,904 --> 00:25:17,744 Speaker 1: He's so hot. 580 00:25:18,024 --> 00:25:20,584 Speaker 3: He's got this beautiful like salt and pepper beards on, 581 00:25:20,664 --> 00:25:22,264 Speaker 3: the great full head of hair. 582 00:25:22,424 --> 00:25:25,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the pro petia. 583 00:25:25,144 --> 00:25:26,424 Speaker 1: He's got the hair growing. 584 00:25:26,624 --> 00:25:27,144 Speaker 2: Yeah. 585 00:25:27,144 --> 00:25:28,584 Speaker 3: So he's a forty nine year old one in the 586 00:25:28,624 --> 00:25:32,784 Speaker 3: sexperg hypnotherapist, life coach. He used to be like on 587 00:25:32,824 --> 00:25:34,304 Speaker 3: the board at web MD. 588 00:25:34,624 --> 00:25:37,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's had a rich professional life the moment 589 00:25:37,584 --> 00:25:38,704 Speaker 2: we delved into him. 590 00:25:38,744 --> 00:25:42,824 Speaker 3: So yeah, Like he's a hypnotherapist, transportational coast and author. 591 00:25:43,424 --> 00:25:45,264 Speaker 3: So I love that she's in a relationship with this 592 00:25:45,304 --> 00:25:47,784 Speaker 3: guy as well. It's the same with Reeseese. This guy's 593 00:25:47,864 --> 00:25:49,184 Speaker 3: not in Hollywood, No. 594 00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,344 Speaker 2: It's I think those of these ladies, like like they 595 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,984 Speaker 2: know how to release information abo their relationship and they 596 00:25:54,024 --> 00:25:55,984 Speaker 2: also know what it's time to jump ship from dating 597 00:25:56,024 --> 00:25:57,744 Speaker 2: famous man. I know they're ahead of the curve. 598 00:25:57,864 --> 00:25:59,864 Speaker 1: I kind of love our A listers. 599 00:25:59,944 --> 00:26:01,904 Speaker 3: Classic A lists have been in the industry for a 600 00:26:02,024 --> 00:26:06,144 Speaker 3: very long time, both dated very very famous men and 601 00:26:06,144 --> 00:26:09,944 Speaker 3: and now like living their peace with men in tech 602 00:26:10,024 --> 00:26:11,664 Speaker 3: and then in hypnotherapy. 603 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:13,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the look that's the dream. I know. 604 00:26:13,664 --> 00:26:16,184 Speaker 2: Everyone's just like, oh, Jennifer Aniston, poor her, she needs 605 00:26:16,224 --> 00:26:18,304 Speaker 2: to find a man. But like, there is something exciting 606 00:26:18,304 --> 00:26:21,184 Speaker 2: when any kind of celebrity starts dating someone new. The 607 00:26:21,224 --> 00:26:22,944 Speaker 2: thing about Jim I did try and look into him 608 00:26:22,944 --> 00:26:24,664 Speaker 2: because I'm like, what's going on with this man? Like, 609 00:26:24,704 --> 00:26:27,624 Speaker 2: what's his motive? So he and Jennifer have followed each 610 00:26:27,624 --> 00:26:30,704 Speaker 2: other on social media, on Instagram in particular for many years. 611 00:26:30,984 --> 00:26:33,664 Speaker 2: She's been liking his posts for over the last year. 612 00:26:33,944 --> 00:26:35,824 Speaker 2: But he's all sort of in that Hollywood set. And 613 00:26:35,824 --> 00:26:37,744 Speaker 2: it should be said that Courtney Cox and Lisa Couldro 614 00:26:37,864 --> 00:26:40,584 Speaker 2: her friend's co stars also follow him, but a lot 615 00:26:40,624 --> 00:26:43,064 Speaker 2: of which is really cute when the friends start following. 616 00:26:43,104 --> 00:26:44,984 Speaker 3: Do you know what my favorite thing is the people 617 00:26:44,984 --> 00:26:47,264 Speaker 3: who go on those deep dives and go and find 618 00:26:47,984 --> 00:26:50,784 Speaker 3: who they're following and if they if they unfollow them, 619 00:26:50,864 --> 00:26:53,704 Speaker 3: Like I love, yeah, the time that people have is amazing, 620 00:26:54,024 --> 00:26:57,024 Speaker 3: But yes, it must mean that they're mates, right. 621 00:26:56,784 --> 00:26:58,984 Speaker 2: So I think he's been in that circle for a while. Well, 622 00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:02,584 Speaker 2: I think he's a wellness guru. He's hypnotists to the stars. 623 00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:05,184 Speaker 2: So the interesting thing is that Jennifer Andison over the 624 00:27:05,304 --> 00:27:08,344 Speaker 2: years has talked about using hypnotherapy for many things over 625 00:27:08,344 --> 00:27:10,184 Speaker 2: the years, and one of the things she used to 626 00:27:10,664 --> 00:27:12,944 Speaker 2: is that she says she has a very very intense 627 00:27:12,984 --> 00:27:16,384 Speaker 2: fear of flying, which for anyone is bad, but particularly 628 00:27:16,384 --> 00:27:18,744 Speaker 2: in her line of work, when you're having to jump 629 00:27:18,824 --> 00:27:21,464 Speaker 2: on the private jets and stuff, or flight at different locations, 630 00:27:21,784 --> 00:27:23,744 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, a fear of flying would 631 00:27:23,784 --> 00:27:26,864 Speaker 2: be not only like crippling, but also really affecting your. 632 00:27:26,784 --> 00:27:29,904 Speaker 1: Works, like Travis Barker who didn't go for like twenty 633 00:27:30,024 --> 00:27:30,744 Speaker 1: years after. 634 00:27:31,024 --> 00:27:33,264 Speaker 2: Well yeah, exactly after being in that crash. And so 635 00:27:33,504 --> 00:27:36,104 Speaker 2: Jennifers has said in the past that she turned hypnotherapy 636 00:27:36,104 --> 00:27:38,224 Speaker 2: and is the only thing that helped her. And so 637 00:27:38,544 --> 00:27:40,984 Speaker 2: people do think, like, is that a line to her 638 00:27:41,104 --> 00:27:44,184 Speaker 2: meeting Jim. So these paparazzi photos that came out, they're 639 00:27:44,264 --> 00:27:46,264 Speaker 2: very cute. Again, we're trash for looking at them, but 640 00:27:46,304 --> 00:27:49,344 Speaker 2: they're out in the world. Everywhere they're kissing, he's like 641 00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:52,824 Speaker 2: massaging her. They're like nuzzling each other. There's an all 642 00:27:52,864 --> 00:27:55,944 Speaker 2: the word to use it. They're all sort of couple's holiday, 643 00:27:56,224 --> 00:27:58,424 Speaker 2: which I think is even the biggest step up from 644 00:27:58,464 --> 00:28:00,424 Speaker 2: going on like a solo holiday and making out on 645 00:28:00,464 --> 00:28:02,744 Speaker 2: a yacht. So they're on a couple's holiday from what 646 00:28:02,744 --> 00:28:05,624 Speaker 2: we can see from the paparazzi photos with Jason Bateman, 647 00:28:05,664 --> 00:28:08,424 Speaker 2: who's one of Jennifer Anderson's long term friends, his wife, 648 00:28:08,744 --> 00:28:11,784 Speaker 2: and then Jennifer and Jim hanging out together in a foursome. 649 00:28:12,064 --> 00:28:15,664 Speaker 1: I love that Jason Bateman is one of my favorites. 650 00:28:15,664 --> 00:28:18,064 Speaker 2: And he likes Jim, so I feel like that's. 651 00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:18,384 Speaker 1: A good sign. 652 00:28:18,384 --> 00:28:21,424 Speaker 3: Because Jason Bateman is like a very sarcastic, like doesn't 653 00:28:21,544 --> 00:28:21,984 Speaker 3: like anyone. 654 00:28:22,024 --> 00:28:22,944 Speaker 1: He's got that, you know. 655 00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:24,864 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever listened to SmartLess, but 656 00:28:24,904 --> 00:28:29,264 Speaker 3: he's got that really like it's like he hates people. 657 00:28:29,664 --> 00:28:31,744 Speaker 2: Oh great, he gives that energy off, but like in 658 00:28:31,784 --> 00:28:33,424 Speaker 2: a funny way. Well, I hope Jim's being on his 659 00:28:33,464 --> 00:28:35,584 Speaker 2: best behavior. Then I would say, Okay, I want this 660 00:28:35,664 --> 00:28:37,144 Speaker 2: to work for Jennifer, and I feel like she's a 661 00:28:37,144 --> 00:28:40,224 Speaker 2: really smart woman, and she overall, you know, knows what's 662 00:28:40,264 --> 00:28:42,024 Speaker 2: going on in the world. But I will just say 663 00:28:42,104 --> 00:28:43,904 Speaker 2: I looked into Jim and I did find a few 664 00:28:43,944 --> 00:28:47,344 Speaker 2: reddish reddish, Okay flags, they're going to give us some 665 00:28:47,384 --> 00:28:51,744 Speaker 2: real so much yeah, potentially, I say red or green. Well, yes, 666 00:28:51,824 --> 00:28:54,384 Speaker 2: you can play the game. Sure, Okay, we don't have 667 00:28:54,384 --> 00:28:56,104 Speaker 2: any props for this guy if you want to do this. 668 00:28:57,104 --> 00:28:59,744 Speaker 2: He's written quite a few books and he's got a website, 669 00:28:59,944 --> 00:29:01,464 Speaker 2: so he puts a lot of his life out there. 670 00:29:01,744 --> 00:29:05,064 Speaker 2: He's talked before about being in this very complicated relationship 671 00:29:05,064 --> 00:29:07,504 Speaker 2: with his past girlfriend. He called her Lucy so that 672 00:29:07,504 --> 00:29:09,824 Speaker 2: she was his Kryptoni and kind of in further, she 673 00:29:09,984 --> 00:29:14,904 Speaker 2: made him act in a bad way, caught up with 674 00:29:14,944 --> 00:29:18,064 Speaker 2: the ex girlfriend, blaming his behavior on her. Maybe there's 675 00:29:18,104 --> 00:29:18,824 Speaker 2: more to the story. 676 00:29:18,984 --> 00:29:21,184 Speaker 3: Any guy that says they have a crazy ex girlfriend, 677 00:29:21,944 --> 00:29:22,664 Speaker 3: huge red flag. 678 00:29:22,784 --> 00:29:25,264 Speaker 2: Next the bigger one. This is a big one. He 679 00:29:25,424 --> 00:29:28,304 Speaker 2: has a complicated relationship with his ex wife, which fair, 680 00:29:28,584 --> 00:29:31,544 Speaker 2: you've ended your marriage, that's fair. But he also has 681 00:29:31,584 --> 00:29:34,544 Speaker 2: a teenage son who he doesn't have a good relationship with. 682 00:29:34,824 --> 00:29:36,544 Speaker 2: And I believe it was in his book. I was 683 00:29:36,584 --> 00:29:38,624 Speaker 2: just like reading some of the excerpts in his book, 684 00:29:38,664 --> 00:29:40,984 Speaker 2: he was talking about his son having a bad relationship 685 00:29:40,984 --> 00:29:43,104 Speaker 2: with him and saying, but he lives with my wife 686 00:29:43,144 --> 00:29:45,264 Speaker 2: and he's really pissed off at me, And I just 687 00:29:45,304 --> 00:29:47,664 Speaker 2: I know family dynamics are complicated, and I don't want 688 00:29:47,664 --> 00:29:49,944 Speaker 2: to completely write this man off, but I do think 689 00:29:50,464 --> 00:29:52,304 Speaker 2: the biggest red flag for me is like when you 690 00:29:52,344 --> 00:29:57,064 Speaker 2: don't have a relationship with your child, because that's just 691 00:29:57,264 --> 00:29:59,424 Speaker 2: that's not an ex wife, it's also a child. Like 692 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:01,704 Speaker 2: if they're pushing you away and they don't want to 693 00:30:01,744 --> 00:30:05,184 Speaker 2: be with you, you have to keep circling. Yeah, yeah, 694 00:30:05,224 --> 00:30:07,064 Speaker 2: well yeah, a teenage noer. But I guess like that 695 00:30:07,184 --> 00:30:08,624 Speaker 2: was written a while ago, say would be a young 696 00:30:08,664 --> 00:30:10,944 Speaker 2: adult now, but like it's up to you as the 697 00:30:11,024 --> 00:30:13,864 Speaker 2: parent to like keep says to me, who don't have children, 698 00:30:13,904 --> 00:30:15,784 Speaker 2: But I also haven't talked to my dad in twenty years, 699 00:30:15,824 --> 00:30:17,824 Speaker 2: so it's you know, swings aroundabout it's like you got 700 00:30:17,904 --> 00:30:20,384 Speaker 2: to think, it's like it's not the child's no, it's 701 00:30:20,424 --> 00:30:22,904 Speaker 2: not a child's responsibility. But putting that out into the 702 00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:24,984 Speaker 2: world of oh, mate, my son's just pissed me, lives 703 00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:26,904 Speaker 2: with his wife. And also it was giving me Brad 704 00:30:26,944 --> 00:30:29,664 Speaker 2: Pitt vibes, and also maybe like Tom Cruise vibes a 705 00:30:29,704 --> 00:30:31,744 Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe I'm projecting these famous men, but all 706 00:30:31,744 --> 00:30:34,144 Speaker 2: these famous men who are restrained from their children. And 707 00:30:34,144 --> 00:30:35,864 Speaker 2: then the public, not that these men are saying it, 708 00:30:35,864 --> 00:30:38,504 Speaker 2: but the public blames the ex wife and I'm like 709 00:30:39,424 --> 00:30:41,224 Speaker 2: just drawing a line from that. 710 00:30:41,304 --> 00:30:44,144 Speaker 1: Over case, Let's give him the benefit of doubt for now. 711 00:30:44,384 --> 00:30:45,944 Speaker 2: And also maybe he and his son a fine. Now. 712 00:30:45,944 --> 00:30:48,544 Speaker 2: He hasn't talked about him recently. He has talked about 713 00:30:48,784 --> 00:30:50,864 Speaker 2: this being on this holiday with Jennifer Addison. He hasn't 714 00:30:50,944 --> 00:30:53,264 Speaker 2: named her, but he has put up some instans and 715 00:30:53,304 --> 00:30:55,344 Speaker 2: things saying that he's having the best holiday of his 716 00:30:55,384 --> 00:30:57,424 Speaker 2: life and it's such a lovely time. I bet it's 717 00:30:57,424 --> 00:30:59,184 Speaker 2: the best holiday of his life with Jenniferran. 718 00:30:59,704 --> 00:31:01,864 Speaker 1: Look, let's give him the benefit of doubt for now. 719 00:31:01,944 --> 00:31:06,304 Speaker 3: But if you're listening, Jim Curtis, you'd be nice to Jen. 720 00:31:06,904 --> 00:31:07,624 Speaker 1: She deserves it. 721 00:31:08,064 --> 00:31:10,584 Speaker 3: Well. 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