1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,224 --> 00:00:26,024 Speaker 3: From Mama Maya. 6 00:00:26,224 --> 00:00:28,904 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture figs. 7 00:00:28,984 --> 00:00:31,304 Speaker 1: I'm Cassanie Lukitt and I'm Laura Brodnick. 8 00:00:31,544 --> 00:00:34,184 Speaker 2: On today's show, Milly Bobby Brown is a mom, but 9 00:00:34,584 --> 00:00:38,184 Speaker 2: some of the controversy around it on the internet is 10 00:00:38,304 --> 00:00:40,944 Speaker 2: kind of causing some issues, so we're going to get 11 00:00:40,944 --> 00:00:46,144 Speaker 2: into that. Also, Stanley Tucci has gone off at paparazzi 12 00:00:46,664 --> 00:00:48,824 Speaker 2: on the set of Devil Wears Prada, and. 13 00:00:48,744 --> 00:00:50,224 Speaker 3: We're gonna have a little bit of a chat about 14 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:50,624 Speaker 3: that too. 15 00:00:51,224 --> 00:00:55,944 Speaker 2: But first, something that has been all over my mom's 16 00:00:56,064 --> 00:01:00,744 Speaker 2: group chat this last weekend is K Pop Demon Hunters. 17 00:01:01,504 --> 00:01:04,104 Speaker 3: Now, Laura, are you a K Pop Demon Hunters fan? 18 00:01:04,304 --> 00:01:07,384 Speaker 1: I'm very aware of this cultural moment. I haven't personally 19 00:01:07,424 --> 00:01:09,624 Speaker 1: watched it yet, not because I'm against it, because we 20 00:01:09,624 --> 00:01:11,384 Speaker 1: did a whole thing on We Watch and Clare Murphy 21 00:01:11,384 --> 00:01:13,664 Speaker 1: convince me to watch it, but more so that I 22 00:01:13,704 --> 00:01:16,064 Speaker 1: just have so much stuff I have to watch for work, okay, 23 00:01:16,064 --> 00:01:17,744 Speaker 1: and I haven't found time for that. But I'm across 24 00:01:17,784 --> 00:01:18,704 Speaker 1: the zeitgeis. 25 00:01:18,984 --> 00:01:20,664 Speaker 3: I knew you would be across the zeit guys. 26 00:01:20,824 --> 00:01:24,024 Speaker 2: So this past weekend, Netflix did something that they don't 27 00:01:24,064 --> 00:01:26,944 Speaker 2: normally do. They did a theatrical release of K Pop 28 00:01:26,984 --> 00:01:31,864 Speaker 2: Demon Hunters in cinemas and it was across like Australia, Canada, 29 00:01:32,144 --> 00:01:35,264 Speaker 2: the US, New Zealand and UK, so a pretty limited 30 00:01:35,344 --> 00:01:38,744 Speaker 2: theatrical release. I have friends who went to this and 31 00:01:38,784 --> 00:01:42,144 Speaker 2: they say that it was absolute chaos. 32 00:01:42,504 --> 00:01:45,824 Speaker 1: That's so interesting because usually Netflix only do a cinema 33 00:01:45,904 --> 00:01:48,424 Speaker 1: run for like a handful of movies, and it's only 34 00:01:48,464 --> 00:01:50,544 Speaker 1: because they're the ones they're putting forward for the Oscars, 35 00:01:50,584 --> 00:01:52,264 Speaker 1: and for them to be nominated for the Oscars, they 36 00:01:52,344 --> 00:01:54,424 Speaker 1: have to play in a certain number of theaters. But 37 00:01:54,464 --> 00:01:56,464 Speaker 1: I don't think they're putting this forward for Oscar nomination. 38 00:01:56,584 --> 00:01:59,064 Speaker 1: Plus it's already been out on the streaming service for ages. 39 00:01:59,144 --> 00:02:01,544 Speaker 3: Well, it's almost like it was like a reversing. 40 00:02:01,784 --> 00:02:04,704 Speaker 2: It used to be that a theatrical release was where 41 00:02:04,704 --> 00:02:07,144 Speaker 2: they would make their big money and then they would 42 00:02:07,184 --> 00:02:10,624 Speaker 2: move on to the streaming services. But Netflix's whole thing 43 00:02:10,664 --> 00:02:14,704 Speaker 2: has always been streaming first. This isn't something they typically do. 44 00:02:14,784 --> 00:02:18,824 Speaker 2: But after weeks of this fandom going crazier and crazier, 45 00:02:18,984 --> 00:02:24,344 Speaker 2: along with the soundtrack becoming like Billboard number one and oh. 46 00:02:24,224 --> 00:02:24,904 Speaker 3: My god, Golden. 47 00:02:24,904 --> 00:02:26,784 Speaker 2: Can we play some Golden because it's really it gets 48 00:02:26,864 --> 00:02:52,424 Speaker 2: It's like the biggest ear worm. Come on, Laura, that 49 00:02:52,504 --> 00:02:53,584 Speaker 2: doesn't get you going. 50 00:02:54,064 --> 00:02:55,744 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't hate the song. It hasn't 51 00:02:55,784 --> 00:02:57,824 Speaker 1: become like one of my Like you know, like the 52 00:02:57,824 --> 00:02:59,664 Speaker 1: best feeling is when a new TV show, movie or 53 00:02:59,704 --> 00:03:01,384 Speaker 1: something comes out and there's a song in it and 54 00:03:01,384 --> 00:03:03,584 Speaker 1: you just play that song over and over and over repeat. 55 00:03:03,784 --> 00:03:05,304 Speaker 1: That's not for me yet, but I know it's like 56 00:03:05,344 --> 00:03:07,584 Speaker 1: climbed all the charts. It's like topping all the like 57 00:03:07,664 --> 00:03:08,624 Speaker 1: records and stuff like that. 58 00:03:08,744 --> 00:03:13,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, it's how diverse the audience is. 59 00:03:13,424 --> 00:03:15,424 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Like my two year old's watch it. 60 00:03:15,504 --> 00:03:18,504 Speaker 2: Please don't judge me, because it's probably not suitable for 61 00:03:18,544 --> 00:03:20,664 Speaker 2: a two year old, but my four year old loves it. 62 00:03:20,704 --> 00:03:22,184 Speaker 3: Probably also not suitable for her. 63 00:03:22,464 --> 00:03:25,544 Speaker 2: But basically they found out at daycare and it's older 64 00:03:25,584 --> 00:03:28,464 Speaker 2: siblings and people, and then all of a sudden, everyone's 65 00:03:28,504 --> 00:03:31,064 Speaker 2: watching it to the point where like adults are now 66 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:34,184 Speaker 2: saying it's like bonding experiences with their children. I was 67 00:03:34,224 --> 00:03:36,784 Speaker 2: reading like a New York Times article talking about how 68 00:03:37,064 --> 00:03:40,624 Speaker 2: parents are now bonding with their children over theirs. Apparently 69 00:03:40,704 --> 00:03:42,944 Speaker 2: over the weekend. They don't have the exact numbers, but 70 00:03:42,984 --> 00:03:46,664 Speaker 2: it's between eighteen and twenty million US in ticket sales 71 00:03:46,704 --> 00:03:49,664 Speaker 2: over the weekend. I'm not sure what the global money 72 00:03:50,024 --> 00:03:52,424 Speaker 2: that they pulled in was, but if this is like 73 00:03:52,504 --> 00:03:54,864 Speaker 2: the amount that they can make in one weekend on 74 00:03:54,944 --> 00:03:57,184 Speaker 2: a show like this, it's just like one of those 75 00:03:57,224 --> 00:04:01,184 Speaker 2: big surprise hits. It is actually really fun. I enjoyed it, 76 00:04:01,264 --> 00:04:03,864 Speaker 2: but the feedback that I got from my mum's group 77 00:04:04,064 --> 00:04:07,544 Speaker 2: was it was absolute chaos in the cinema. There was 78 00:04:07,584 --> 00:04:10,744 Speaker 2: like kids screaming. Everyone was like doing the dialogue, singing 79 00:04:10,784 --> 00:04:14,104 Speaker 2: the songs, and it was kids from basically the age 80 00:04:14,104 --> 00:04:18,544 Speaker 2: of like four to like seventeen plus parents. It's amazing 81 00:04:18,584 --> 00:04:22,184 Speaker 2: how it's gotten into the zegeist. Even Annie Samberg like 82 00:04:22,344 --> 00:04:24,984 Speaker 2: mentioned to how much of a fan he is of it. 83 00:04:25,144 --> 00:04:27,504 Speaker 3: To Big K Pop Demon Hunter's trip right now? 84 00:04:27,624 --> 00:04:28,304 Speaker 2: Oh for real? 85 00:04:31,344 --> 00:04:32,384 Speaker 1: Okay, what if? 86 00:04:32,904 --> 00:04:35,944 Speaker 3: What what is? 87 00:04:36,064 --> 00:04:38,064 Speaker 1: K Pop gets a Netflix movie? 88 00:04:38,184 --> 00:04:40,264 Speaker 3: I'm here to promote my movie, but I'm talking about this. 89 00:04:41,304 --> 00:04:43,504 Speaker 2: It's an anime movie. 90 00:04:43,224 --> 00:04:46,064 Speaker 1: About a girl trio girls singers and a K pop 91 00:04:46,104 --> 00:04:51,344 Speaker 1: group who protect the world from demons with their music. Duh. 92 00:04:51,584 --> 00:04:54,664 Speaker 1: Number one song in the country NBD okay, yeah, and 93 00:04:54,704 --> 00:04:57,104 Speaker 1: I'm all about it And I thought it would be 94 00:04:57,104 --> 00:04:59,464 Speaker 1: something I could share with my daughter who's eight, and 95 00:04:59,504 --> 00:05:00,304 Speaker 1: I tried to get her. 96 00:05:00,184 --> 00:05:01,544 Speaker 3: Listen to it and she was like, yeah, I'm good. 97 00:05:01,824 --> 00:05:04,584 Speaker 3: So so your kids aren't intul it at all, Well 98 00:05:04,624 --> 00:05:07,704 Speaker 3: not yet, not yet, Daddy's working on. 99 00:05:09,304 --> 00:05:11,864 Speaker 2: I wanted to bring it up because I feel like 100 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:14,424 Speaker 2: I need to like double down and get you back 101 00:05:14,464 --> 00:05:14,944 Speaker 2: into it. 102 00:05:15,304 --> 00:05:17,104 Speaker 1: Well again, I'm not against it, and I love jumping 103 00:05:17,104 --> 00:05:19,624 Speaker 1: on a bandwagon. There's nothing I love when something's really popular, 104 00:05:19,664 --> 00:05:21,624 Speaker 1: becoming part of that because I know that people are 105 00:05:21,664 --> 00:05:23,504 Speaker 1: across the plot for this, but the song is really 106 00:05:23,544 --> 00:05:26,224 Speaker 1: what got people in. And songs have saved movies from 107 00:05:26,264 --> 00:05:28,504 Speaker 1: tanking before, Like I think the last example was The 108 00:05:28,504 --> 00:05:31,064 Speaker 1: Greatest Showman Like that came out, the movies did super 109 00:05:31,104 --> 00:05:33,024 Speaker 1: poor numbers, no one was into it. Then the song 110 00:05:33,144 --> 00:05:35,784 Speaker 1: started like this is Me. That song started like kind 111 00:05:35,784 --> 00:05:37,704 Speaker 1: of going across the charts. All of a sudden, it 112 00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:39,984 Speaker 1: jumped up the charts, and then next minuted everyone's like 113 00:05:40,024 --> 00:05:41,504 Speaker 1: going to the cinema to see it. I feel like 114 00:05:41,584 --> 00:05:43,864 Speaker 1: that's been a little bit with K Pop Demon Hunters. 115 00:05:43,984 --> 00:05:46,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's the soundtrack that makes the movie, but 116 00:05:47,304 --> 00:05:49,704 Speaker 2: this one is definitely one. To keep an eye on 117 00:05:49,704 --> 00:05:51,184 Speaker 2: it and watch it with your kids. 118 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:52,904 Speaker 1: And maybe they'll get an oscar. Now they've had a 119 00:05:52,904 --> 00:05:56,904 Speaker 1: cinema run Nana. So we are still being inundated with 120 00:05:57,104 --> 00:06:00,144 Speaker 1: photos and videos from The Devil Wears prior to set, 121 00:06:00,424 --> 00:06:02,384 Speaker 1: and people have really strong feelings about it. I'm not 122 00:06:02,504 --> 00:06:05,384 Speaker 1: your feelings are, but some people think because we've seen 123 00:06:05,424 --> 00:06:07,144 Speaker 1: so many of the outfits. Now we've seen all the 124 00:06:07,184 --> 00:06:10,184 Speaker 1: guest stars. We've seen you know, everyone from like Page 125 00:06:10,224 --> 00:06:13,064 Speaker 1: just to all these like huge stars filming their little 126 00:06:13,064 --> 00:06:15,984 Speaker 1: pop up extra bits. We've seen Emily Blunts really red hair. 127 00:06:16,464 --> 00:06:19,304 Speaker 1: We've seen Miranda Priestley is like being on the street. Look, 128 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:21,584 Speaker 1: it feels like there's nothing left to see, and people 129 00:06:21,624 --> 00:06:24,144 Speaker 1: feel like the movie has been completely spoiled for them 130 00:06:24,144 --> 00:06:25,464 Speaker 1: because of paparazzi culture. 131 00:06:25,784 --> 00:06:28,264 Speaker 2: I know, and then I think it's kind of really 132 00:06:28,424 --> 00:06:31,784 Speaker 2: escalated this past week and when we saw Stanley Tucci 133 00:06:32,064 --> 00:06:35,224 Speaker 2: yelling at paparazzi, which to me is like if you've 134 00:06:35,264 --> 00:06:39,944 Speaker 2: made Stanley Tucci mad. That man is a gem, Like 135 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:42,184 Speaker 2: I could just listen to him talk all day, like 136 00:06:42,224 --> 00:06:44,264 Speaker 2: how dare you make Stanley Tucci mad? 137 00:06:44,664 --> 00:06:46,664 Speaker 1: It's interesting because I think the kind of flipping point 138 00:06:46,704 --> 00:06:48,664 Speaker 1: for this was there's been this big back and forth 139 00:06:48,704 --> 00:06:50,784 Speaker 1: of people saying that they like seeing the photos, and 140 00:06:51,024 --> 00:06:53,064 Speaker 1: I was a little on that side of the conversation 141 00:06:53,144 --> 00:06:55,344 Speaker 1: where the whole point of filming in New York and 142 00:06:55,384 --> 00:06:58,304 Speaker 1: filming out on these iconic locations is that come like 143 00:06:58,384 --> 00:07:00,304 Speaker 1: old school Sex and the City filming, like the world 144 00:07:00,304 --> 00:07:01,824 Speaker 1: gets to be part of it, We get to see 145 00:07:01,864 --> 00:07:04,304 Speaker 1: some of the outfits. There's often like fun little cat 146 00:07:04,304 --> 00:07:07,024 Speaker 1: and mouse games where they'll print out like Sex and 147 00:07:07,024 --> 00:07:08,344 Speaker 1: City used to do this all the time, and in 148 00:07:08,464 --> 00:07:10,344 Speaker 1: just like that, print out fakes scripts and leave them 149 00:07:10,424 --> 00:07:14,224 Speaker 1: around to throw paparazzi off film fake scenes, and a 150 00:07:14,224 --> 00:07:15,944 Speaker 1: lot of other movies who film in New York have 151 00:07:16,064 --> 00:07:17,984 Speaker 1: done that as well. So it's become this little culture 152 00:07:17,984 --> 00:07:20,104 Speaker 1: of itself of like what's really going to be in 153 00:07:20,104 --> 00:07:22,664 Speaker 1: the movie, what are they showing? What does this scene mean? 154 00:07:22,704 --> 00:07:24,904 Speaker 1: But then the actual movies or films on a sound stage, 155 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:26,824 Speaker 1: so you still get all those surprises, So I was 156 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:29,424 Speaker 1: kind of on that side of the fence. But this week, 157 00:07:29,464 --> 00:07:32,264 Speaker 1: I think what tipped a lot of people, including Stanley 158 00:07:32,264 --> 00:07:34,864 Speaker 1: Tucci and myself over the edge, is that they're filming 159 00:07:34,864 --> 00:07:37,144 Speaker 1: in New York. It's Anne Hathaway and Stanley Tucci. They 160 00:07:37,224 --> 00:07:39,784 Speaker 1: both look incredible. They've got these black outfits on and 161 00:07:39,824 --> 00:07:42,144 Speaker 1: they're doing this walk and talk scene. And the difference 162 00:07:42,184 --> 00:07:45,144 Speaker 1: here is that it's not just photos or far away shots. 163 00:07:45,424 --> 00:07:49,064 Speaker 1: The paparazzi and all these different photo takers are pushing 164 00:07:49,104 --> 00:07:51,424 Speaker 1: in so far on the sets and filming that they're 165 00:07:51,424 --> 00:07:53,664 Speaker 1: getting in the way of the cameras. But also you 166 00:07:53,704 --> 00:07:56,304 Speaker 1: can hear the dialogue of what they're saying. You can 167 00:07:56,344 --> 00:08:00,344 Speaker 1: hear Anne Hathaway as Andy Sacks, like getting really frustrated 168 00:08:00,384 --> 00:08:02,664 Speaker 1: at like what I think is obviously Miranda Priestley. So 169 00:08:02,744 --> 00:08:05,304 Speaker 1: it's giving away like actual moments of the plot. And 170 00:08:05,344 --> 00:08:07,624 Speaker 1: you can see Stanley Tucci, he's putting up for so 171 00:08:07,784 --> 00:08:10,784 Speaker 1: long he's walking and talking, the cameras getting so you 172 00:08:10,824 --> 00:08:12,984 Speaker 1: can see his eyes keep darting over and he keeps 173 00:08:12,984 --> 00:08:15,544 Speaker 1: looking at the camera like he's getting very visibly distracted 174 00:08:15,904 --> 00:08:18,384 Speaker 1: and being pulled out of his character to the point 175 00:08:18,424 --> 00:08:20,624 Speaker 1: where at one stage he turns to the paparazzi and 176 00:08:20,664 --> 00:08:22,784 Speaker 1: pretty much asks them to move away. 177 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:26,824 Speaker 3: Hey guys, yeah, you guys, how do you take a 178 00:08:26,904 --> 00:08:27,704 Speaker 3: pictures deplete? 179 00:08:37,064 --> 00:08:39,984 Speaker 2: I know they're professionals, Stanley Tucci is a professional, but 180 00:08:40,584 --> 00:08:45,704 Speaker 2: that is incredibly distracting, and I can imagine how frustrating 181 00:08:45,744 --> 00:08:48,904 Speaker 2: it would be. There's also been this speculation that because 182 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:52,104 Speaker 2: they're wearing all black, that it's a funeral scene. So 183 00:08:52,464 --> 00:08:55,864 Speaker 2: maybe there was like some concern that the dialogue was 184 00:08:55,904 --> 00:08:58,224 Speaker 2: going to then give away the fact that is this 185 00:08:58,344 --> 00:09:00,784 Speaker 2: like where Miranda Priestley dies. That's like some of them 186 00:09:01,304 --> 00:09:03,184 Speaker 2: the gossip I've been hearing. 187 00:09:03,024 --> 00:09:04,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, that it could be a plot point because the 188 00:09:04,904 --> 00:09:07,184 Speaker 1: video before that one where they're getting in really close 189 00:09:07,184 --> 00:09:09,704 Speaker 1: to Anhatho when they're about to start filming, is that 190 00:09:09,784 --> 00:09:12,384 Speaker 1: she's saying to Stanley and the people on set around her, 191 00:09:12,664 --> 00:09:14,344 Speaker 1: I think they can hear. I think they can hear. 192 00:09:14,464 --> 00:09:16,464 Speaker 1: And she's talking about all the people who are trying 193 00:09:16,464 --> 00:09:19,584 Speaker 1: to get footage, and she's flagging her concern before they 194 00:09:19,664 --> 00:09:21,984 Speaker 1: even start filming that she thinks they're going to hear 195 00:09:21,984 --> 00:09:24,744 Speaker 1: the dialogue. And it's kind of interesting because I feel like, 196 00:09:24,984 --> 00:09:28,144 Speaker 1: obviously paparazzi chasing celebrities in their personal life is still 197 00:09:28,184 --> 00:09:30,864 Speaker 1: a huge thing, but all those photos that used to 198 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:33,224 Speaker 1: sell of them just like going on a coffee walk 199 00:09:33,624 --> 00:09:36,784 Speaker 1: out and about with like their partner getting groceries, those 200 00:09:36,824 --> 00:09:40,144 Speaker 1: don't sell as well anymore because you know, everyone puts 201 00:09:40,144 --> 00:09:42,664 Speaker 1: everything on Instagram now, so we don't want this level 202 00:09:42,664 --> 00:09:45,464 Speaker 1: of access to celebrities that we did before, like we 203 00:09:45,504 --> 00:09:48,464 Speaker 1: want them doing scandalous things and hooking up or photos 204 00:09:48,464 --> 00:09:50,784 Speaker 1: of their kids, which is really messy. But I feel 205 00:09:50,784 --> 00:09:53,264 Speaker 1: like now the new prize for paparazzi is to try 206 00:09:53,304 --> 00:09:56,104 Speaker 1: and get photos from movie and TV sets and like 207 00:09:56,184 --> 00:09:58,064 Speaker 1: have a bit of a spoiler. And so I think 208 00:09:58,104 --> 00:10:00,864 Speaker 1: they're getting more aggressive with how they get on these sets. 209 00:10:01,104 --> 00:10:04,144 Speaker 1: And Stanley Tucci's not the first celebrity that's done this recently. 210 00:10:04,184 --> 00:10:07,864 Speaker 1: Scarletjohnson's the other one. Again, usually like Skeletor Hanson has 211 00:10:07,904 --> 00:10:09,984 Speaker 1: been famous. She's in her forties now, she's been famous 212 00:10:09,984 --> 00:10:12,544 Speaker 1: since she about ten years old. She's had this really 213 00:10:12,584 --> 00:10:15,744 Speaker 1: intense paparazzi circus around her, like she wants her to 214 00:10:15,784 --> 00:10:17,584 Speaker 1: drive her car a few years ago into the police 215 00:10:17,584 --> 00:10:20,104 Speaker 1: station because she and Colin Jose are being followed and 216 00:10:20,424 --> 00:10:22,344 Speaker 1: she's filming on the street, and you just see that 217 00:10:22,424 --> 00:10:25,464 Speaker 1: she breaks and she turns over and she starts screaming 218 00:10:25,464 --> 00:10:26,704 Speaker 1: and saying like f you and all this sort of 219 00:10:26,744 --> 00:10:29,544 Speaker 1: stuff to this paparazzi. And then she's like, I'm working, 220 00:10:29,624 --> 00:10:32,224 Speaker 1: I'm working, and you're ruining it. You're just ruining it, Like, 221 00:10:32,304 --> 00:10:34,264 Speaker 1: get out of the way, you're ruining the shot. And 222 00:10:34,304 --> 00:10:36,184 Speaker 1: you can just sort of see that, like this is 223 00:10:36,224 --> 00:10:38,184 Speaker 1: the thing that's going to tip them all over the edge. 224 00:10:38,224 --> 00:10:40,624 Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen other shots of it, like when 225 00:10:40,624 --> 00:10:42,744 Speaker 2: they're up at the you know, at the Met and 226 00:10:42,744 --> 00:10:45,584 Speaker 2: they're kind of all walking up. The streets are packed 227 00:10:45,624 --> 00:10:47,784 Speaker 2: to the point where it almost looks like the actual 228 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:48,424 Speaker 2: Met Bama. 229 00:10:48,944 --> 00:10:50,064 Speaker 3: I'm actually quite. 230 00:10:49,784 --> 00:10:55,744 Speaker 2: Surprised that the barrier wasn't further back. Yeah, I'm shocked 231 00:10:55,744 --> 00:10:58,344 Speaker 2: that they were able to get so close, because anytime 232 00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:00,784 Speaker 2: I've come across movie sets in New York, they have 233 00:11:01,464 --> 00:11:05,584 Speaker 2: closed down so far that there's no way one that 234 00:11:05,624 --> 00:11:07,144 Speaker 2: you're going to get in the back of a shot 235 00:11:07,544 --> 00:11:09,784 Speaker 2: or two you're gonna be able to hear dialogue. So 236 00:11:09,864 --> 00:11:13,864 Speaker 2: I'm quite surprised that the perhaps and people were able 237 00:11:13,904 --> 00:11:15,304 Speaker 2: to get that close. 238 00:11:15,784 --> 00:11:17,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's because of the scale of what 239 00:11:17,264 --> 00:11:18,944 Speaker 1: they're because they're doing such a long walk and talk, 240 00:11:19,024 --> 00:11:21,024 Speaker 1: they can block off the entire road and park and 241 00:11:21,024 --> 00:11:23,304 Speaker 1: all the back shots but not the road kind of 242 00:11:23,384 --> 00:11:25,984 Speaker 1: leading into it, which the cat and mouse game is 243 00:11:26,024 --> 00:11:27,624 Speaker 1: what was fun of it. But now that it's become 244 00:11:27,664 --> 00:11:30,224 Speaker 1: this stampede of photographers, it's not as much fun. So 245 00:11:30,264 --> 00:11:32,624 Speaker 1: I understand why like a Stanley Tucci or a Scarlet 246 00:11:32,704 --> 00:11:35,384 Speaker 1: Johns and are just losing their shit. I mean, Stanley Tucci, 247 00:11:35,664 --> 00:11:38,744 Speaker 1: he didn't yell, but the look of disappointment on his 248 00:11:38,784 --> 00:11:40,704 Speaker 1: face was worse than a yell. But you know who 249 00:11:40,744 --> 00:11:44,424 Speaker 1: can't get angry is Anne Hathaway. Poor Anne Hathaway is 250 00:11:45,144 --> 00:11:47,464 Speaker 1: the one who's like had the cameras in her face 251 00:11:47,504 --> 00:11:49,504 Speaker 1: the most. But if you listen turning that video and 252 00:11:49,544 --> 00:11:51,504 Speaker 1: you see it, and obviously it's a paparazzi shot, so 253 00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:55,304 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's circulating everywhere, but it's like filmed, 254 00:11:55,384 --> 00:11:57,864 Speaker 1: not from the film crew. But she walks over to 255 00:11:57,904 --> 00:12:00,704 Speaker 1: the photographers and she does her Remember like a while ago, 256 00:12:00,744 --> 00:12:03,184 Speaker 1: how she went super viral. She got out an event 257 00:12:03,304 --> 00:12:05,664 Speaker 1: and all these fans like hundreds of fans are waiting 258 00:12:05,664 --> 00:12:07,504 Speaker 1: for him, and they started pushing in towards the Cardinalist 259 00:12:07,544 --> 00:12:09,624 Speaker 1: photographers and she puts her hands up and she was 260 00:12:09,664 --> 00:12:14,104 Speaker 1: like calm, calmer, and she went like crazy viral for that. 261 00:12:14,784 --> 00:12:16,624 Speaker 1: And you can kind of see that she's leaning into 262 00:12:16,664 --> 00:12:19,384 Speaker 1: that again here in these videos. And I think one 263 00:12:19,384 --> 00:12:21,544 Speaker 1: of the reasons that she has to be so kind 264 00:12:21,584 --> 00:12:23,304 Speaker 1: of like she can't lose her shit is that The 265 00:12:23,304 --> 00:12:25,664 Speaker 1: Devil Was Pritor was one of the last few movies 266 00:12:26,264 --> 00:12:28,824 Speaker 1: where she was still seen as like the golden girl 267 00:12:28,864 --> 00:12:30,784 Speaker 1: of Hollywood and people liked her. And it wasn't that 268 00:12:30,864 --> 00:12:34,864 Speaker 1: long after that that the Hatha haters started and all 269 00:12:34,904 --> 00:12:37,984 Speaker 1: these rumors went crazy that she was difficult to work 270 00:12:38,024 --> 00:12:40,384 Speaker 1: with on set and no one liked her, and like 271 00:12:40,464 --> 00:12:42,344 Speaker 1: Jessica Chastain had to like get up on stage at 272 00:12:42,344 --> 00:12:44,264 Speaker 1: a press conference and say that she was great to 273 00:12:44,304 --> 00:12:46,024 Speaker 1: work with and this was so unfair. And I think 274 00:12:46,144 --> 00:12:49,584 Speaker 1: she's really aware that she can't lose her cool the 275 00:12:49,584 --> 00:12:50,544 Speaker 1: way other people can. 276 00:12:50,664 --> 00:12:52,784 Speaker 2: But do you know what's interesting, Like I saw the 277 00:12:52,864 --> 00:12:55,784 Speaker 2: video the comments on it, We're like, oh God, she's 278 00:12:55,864 --> 00:12:59,024 Speaker 2: so patronizing by doing this, So like, no matter what 279 00:12:59,184 --> 00:13:01,704 Speaker 2: she does, people are going to be upset at her. 280 00:13:01,744 --> 00:13:03,584 Speaker 2: They're like, why is she talking to the perhaps like 281 00:13:03,624 --> 00:13:06,544 Speaker 2: their children. I'm like, she's actually being very level headed. 282 00:13:06,584 --> 00:13:08,104 Speaker 2: She's just saying guys. 283 00:13:07,984 --> 00:13:09,624 Speaker 1: She's using a mum voice a little bit, and I 284 00:13:09,664 --> 00:13:10,184 Speaker 1: respect it. 285 00:13:10,184 --> 00:13:13,304 Speaker 2: Isn't that better than her going off the rails? Like, 286 00:13:13,664 --> 00:13:16,704 Speaker 2: but then people will still find something wrong with it, 287 00:13:16,864 --> 00:13:19,464 Speaker 2: like that's I guess the place that the internet is, 288 00:13:19,624 --> 00:13:22,744 Speaker 2: and it is people just for some reason. There are 289 00:13:22,784 --> 00:13:25,544 Speaker 2: some actors that just don't like her, you know, and 290 00:13:25,584 --> 00:13:30,064 Speaker 2: they once that rumor mill starts of she's difficult to 291 00:13:30,144 --> 00:13:33,704 Speaker 2: work with, she's a diva. Once that starts, it's very 292 00:13:33,784 --> 00:13:35,904 Speaker 2: very hard to stop that train exactly. 293 00:13:36,024 --> 00:13:38,024 Speaker 1: So The Devil is prior to too. It's coming out 294 00:13:38,064 --> 00:13:40,224 Speaker 1: early next year, so you know, they're cutting in a 295 00:13:40,224 --> 00:13:43,584 Speaker 1: fine line between filming and being in the theaters, like 296 00:13:43,664 --> 00:13:46,184 Speaker 1: relatively soon, this time will fly. I think they've almost 297 00:13:46,184 --> 00:13:48,064 Speaker 1: done filming, so at least we'll have like a period 298 00:13:48,104 --> 00:13:50,544 Speaker 1: of time where they're not doing these exterior shots. But 299 00:13:50,584 --> 00:13:52,064 Speaker 1: I'm still so excited to see the movie. I don't 300 00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:53,864 Speaker 1: care if I've seen a few of the outfits. It's 301 00:13:53,864 --> 00:13:56,184 Speaker 1: made me more excited in a way because I haven't 302 00:13:56,184 --> 00:13:59,904 Speaker 1: been able to piece together exactly where the characters are 303 00:13:59,904 --> 00:14:02,104 Speaker 1: aut or what's happening, or like you see little like 304 00:14:02,304 --> 00:14:05,024 Speaker 1: why is Marnda Priestley's character holding this giant water bottle? 305 00:14:05,064 --> 00:14:06,664 Speaker 1: Like how far has she fallen? Like? I think there's 306 00:14:06,704 --> 00:14:07,664 Speaker 1: a lot of intrigues still. 307 00:14:07,864 --> 00:14:10,504 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've been looking at the outfits kind 308 00:14:10,504 --> 00:14:12,104 Speaker 2: of like through my fingers because I don't want to 309 00:14:12,104 --> 00:14:16,464 Speaker 2: destroy it because the suddenly I see montage scene is 310 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:19,824 Speaker 2: probably one of my favorite like fashion scenes in cinema. 311 00:14:19,704 --> 00:14:23,464 Speaker 3: And really don't want to ruin it. So please stop stop. 312 00:14:23,744 --> 00:14:25,504 Speaker 1: No, it won't be a ruined I'm sure. Well, we'll see, 313 00:14:25,544 --> 00:14:26,384 Speaker 1: we'll see when it comes out. 314 00:14:26,464 --> 00:14:31,144 Speaker 2: Nana Nana, Millie Bobby Brown and Jake bon Jovi have 315 00:14:31,384 --> 00:14:35,464 Speaker 2: welcomed a daughter via adoption, and it's kind of coused 316 00:14:35,504 --> 00:14:38,384 Speaker 2: a little bit of an uproar on the internet. They 317 00:14:38,424 --> 00:14:42,224 Speaker 2: announced in Instagram post this summer, we welcomed our sweet 318 00:14:42,224 --> 00:14:45,464 Speaker 2: baby girl through adoption. We are beyond excited to embark 319 00:14:45,544 --> 00:14:48,944 Speaker 2: on the beautiful next chapter of parenthood in both peace 320 00:14:49,104 --> 00:14:53,784 Speaker 2: and privacy, which I actually says a lot now. Millie 321 00:14:53,784 --> 00:14:57,144 Speaker 2: Bobby Brown is twenty one and Jake is twenty three. 322 00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:59,144 Speaker 2: If you didn't catch by his last name, he is 323 00:14:59,184 --> 00:15:02,144 Speaker 2: the son of John bon Jovie. They got married last 324 00:15:02,224 --> 00:15:07,464 Speaker 2: year in Tuscany, and obviously is fairly quick to have 325 00:15:07,584 --> 00:15:08,104 Speaker 2: a child. 326 00:15:08,224 --> 00:15:09,384 Speaker 3: She's still very young. 327 00:15:09,824 --> 00:15:12,504 Speaker 2: So one of the things that the internet has been 328 00:15:12,544 --> 00:15:15,104 Speaker 2: saying is that, oh my god, she's way too young 329 00:15:15,144 --> 00:15:17,744 Speaker 2: to do this, Like what is going on? And it 330 00:15:17,784 --> 00:15:20,224 Speaker 2: all kind of felt like it happened very quickly. But 331 00:15:20,424 --> 00:15:22,944 Speaker 2: after doing like a little bit of digging, which is 332 00:15:23,264 --> 00:15:25,104 Speaker 2: not a lot of digging, you can see that Millie 333 00:15:25,104 --> 00:15:28,904 Speaker 2: Bobbi Brown is someone who has always been very family orientated. 334 00:15:29,344 --> 00:15:32,384 Speaker 2: Earlier this year, she was on the SmartLess podcast and 335 00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:35,584 Speaker 2: talked about wanting to be a mom young. She said 336 00:15:35,624 --> 00:15:38,824 Speaker 2: her mom was twenty one when she first had her child, 337 00:15:38,984 --> 00:15:42,584 Speaker 2: and her dad was actually only nineteen. So that was 338 00:15:42,664 --> 00:15:47,704 Speaker 2: kind of something her and Jake shared when they got together, 339 00:15:47,944 --> 00:15:51,344 Speaker 2: is wanting to be young parents, and they both come 340 00:15:51,544 --> 00:15:54,424 Speaker 2: from big families, big supportive families, and they really wanted 341 00:15:54,464 --> 00:15:58,544 Speaker 2: to have children. There's been a little bit of discourse 342 00:15:58,704 --> 00:16:02,864 Speaker 2: around the adoption, around the fact that she's so young 343 00:16:02,944 --> 00:16:04,904 Speaker 2: and he's so young, and the fact that they've been 344 00:16:04,904 --> 00:16:08,144 Speaker 2: married for such a short period of time. 345 00:16:08,624 --> 00:16:10,784 Speaker 1: My first thoughts seeing that announcement when it's sort of 346 00:16:10,784 --> 00:16:14,144 Speaker 1: sort of making headlines on Friday, was that they obviously 347 00:16:14,184 --> 00:16:16,584 Speaker 1: put up that very short, sweet little statement that said 348 00:16:16,744 --> 00:16:19,024 Speaker 1: that ended in saying like, now there were three kind 349 00:16:19,024 --> 00:16:21,144 Speaker 1: of thing, which is really cute. My first thought was 350 00:16:21,184 --> 00:16:24,544 Speaker 1: like their hand was forced to an extent because all 351 00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:27,064 Speaker 1: these pat photos came out of her and Jake pushing 352 00:16:27,104 --> 00:16:29,264 Speaker 1: a stroller and then like the babies hid him. But 353 00:16:29,304 --> 00:16:31,304 Speaker 1: then there was all these speculations they had to put 354 00:16:31,304 --> 00:16:34,024 Speaker 1: a statement out, and it sort of came in waves, 355 00:16:34,064 --> 00:16:36,104 Speaker 1: like the first wave was people going, oh my god, 356 00:16:36,144 --> 00:16:38,224 Speaker 1: this is so exciting, and we love Millie Bobby Brown 357 00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:40,624 Speaker 1: because obviously people love her so much from stranger things. 358 00:16:40,864 --> 00:16:43,624 Speaker 1: But then the next wave was like, but wait a second, 359 00:16:43,704 --> 00:16:45,504 Speaker 1: she's too young to have a child and they haven't 360 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:47,544 Speaker 1: been married that long, and how did this happen and 361 00:16:47,584 --> 00:16:51,504 Speaker 1: it's really irresponsible, which opened up this whole conversation around 362 00:16:51,544 --> 00:16:53,744 Speaker 1: like what the adoption laws were and how this was 363 00:16:53,744 --> 00:16:54,384 Speaker 1: able to happen. 364 00:16:54,864 --> 00:16:57,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that this is not a dig 365 00:16:57,304 --> 00:17:01,144 Speaker 2: at Millie Bobby Brown herself. I think it's more of 366 00:17:01,184 --> 00:17:06,144 Speaker 2: a wider conversation about people's frustration on the access to 367 00:17:06,584 --> 00:17:10,584 Speaker 2: adoption and sometimes to a lesser extent, to sarrogacy, where 368 00:17:10,624 --> 00:17:13,704 Speaker 2: some people are waiting for years and years and years 369 00:17:13,744 --> 00:17:17,544 Speaker 2: to be able to adopt childs and it seems like 370 00:17:17,664 --> 00:17:20,424 Speaker 2: merely Bobby Brown has done this really quickly, which I'm 371 00:17:20,504 --> 00:17:23,664 Speaker 2: sure that they went through all of the appropriate channels. 372 00:17:23,664 --> 00:17:26,104 Speaker 2: We don't know the details of that, but yeah, I 373 00:17:26,144 --> 00:17:28,784 Speaker 2: think that's part of what a lot of people are questioning, 374 00:17:29,024 --> 00:17:33,424 Speaker 2: is that just because they're rich, they've gotten this so quickly. 375 00:17:34,184 --> 00:17:36,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that was definitely the conversation, and 376 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,064 Speaker 1: there was like a lot of misinformation. I mean, I 377 00:17:38,104 --> 00:17:39,504 Speaker 1: was reading a lot about it over the weekend as 378 00:17:39,504 --> 00:17:42,704 Speaker 1: the reaction was kind of gaining momentum, and like listening 379 00:17:42,744 --> 00:17:45,184 Speaker 1: to different people from people who had both been adopted 380 00:17:45,224 --> 00:17:47,344 Speaker 1: and who had adopted children and people who weren't able 381 00:17:47,344 --> 00:17:49,464 Speaker 1: to adopt, and there were so many different thoughts and 382 00:17:49,504 --> 00:17:51,584 Speaker 1: feelings included in there. There was a bit of a 383 00:17:51,624 --> 00:17:54,064 Speaker 1: misinformation saying that at twenty one you wouldn't be able 384 00:17:54,064 --> 00:17:56,264 Speaker 1: to adopt. What I could find from the US laws 385 00:17:56,384 --> 00:17:58,304 Speaker 1: was that you can from over eighteen, but you do 386 00:17:58,384 --> 00:18:00,744 Speaker 1: have to be at least ten years older than the 387 00:18:01,064 --> 00:18:03,824 Speaker 1: child you're adopting, which obviously here is fine. It was 388 00:18:03,864 --> 00:18:06,504 Speaker 1: more so that just in any other factor, people were 389 00:18:06,544 --> 00:18:09,624 Speaker 1: saying that being twenty one, being married sort of just 390 00:18:09,704 --> 00:18:12,784 Speaker 1: over a year would work against you in the adoption system, 391 00:18:12,784 --> 00:18:15,864 Speaker 1: which is very competitive and very difficult. There was allegations 392 00:18:15,864 --> 00:18:17,944 Speaker 1: they had gone private adoption and the reason they were 393 00:18:17,944 --> 00:18:20,824 Speaker 1: able to do that is through having an immense amount 394 00:18:20,864 --> 00:18:22,944 Speaker 1: of money, which means they could kind of almost pay 395 00:18:23,344 --> 00:18:25,824 Speaker 1: to have this child. Was kind of the backlash that 396 00:18:25,824 --> 00:18:26,784 Speaker 1: people were talking about. 397 00:18:26,984 --> 00:18:29,984 Speaker 2: Lily Collins faced sort of a similar backlash when she 398 00:18:30,424 --> 00:18:33,864 Speaker 2: announced her child via surrogacy, and it was that same 399 00:18:33,984 --> 00:18:37,744 Speaker 2: kind of buying a baby thing. Now after doing diary 400 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:42,224 Speaker 2: of a birth, surrogacy laws in Australia it's all altruistic, 401 00:18:42,264 --> 00:18:45,344 Speaker 2: which means that you cannot pay to have a surrogate 402 00:18:45,384 --> 00:18:48,224 Speaker 2: here in Australia. In America it has become a little 403 00:18:48,224 --> 00:18:50,464 Speaker 2: bit more of a business, and I think that's where 404 00:18:50,464 --> 00:18:53,704 Speaker 2: people kind of start to tie this in and make 405 00:18:53,824 --> 00:18:57,984 Speaker 2: those criticisms. And again I am not making those criticisms 406 00:18:58,024 --> 00:19:02,224 Speaker 2: against Lily or against Mille Bobby Brown, but that's I 407 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:05,904 Speaker 2: think where that upset comes from. It's like that access 408 00:19:05,944 --> 00:19:09,904 Speaker 2: that celebrity people have, two things that some people are 409 00:19:09,944 --> 00:19:14,144 Speaker 2: waiting decades for. I think is where some of that 410 00:19:14,264 --> 00:19:15,504 Speaker 2: frustration lies. 411 00:19:16,064 --> 00:19:17,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also this is a new thing. This is 412 00:19:18,184 --> 00:19:20,264 Speaker 1: a conversation that's been going on for decades. It's just 413 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:23,584 Speaker 1: like the conversation around celebrity motherhood has sort of like 414 00:19:23,624 --> 00:19:25,904 Speaker 1: ebbed and flowed over the years. Because one of the 415 00:19:25,944 --> 00:19:29,024 Speaker 1: reasons why there was a big backlash against Lily Collins 416 00:19:29,504 --> 00:19:32,064 Speaker 1: was that there was this assumption, even though neither she 417 00:19:32,184 --> 00:19:34,344 Speaker 1: nor anyone else from her family said anything like this, 418 00:19:34,784 --> 00:19:37,384 Speaker 1: there was this assumption that she had had a baby 419 00:19:37,464 --> 00:19:40,344 Speaker 1: via surrogacy because she didn't want to take time off 420 00:19:40,344 --> 00:19:42,784 Speaker 1: filming like for Emily and Paris or her schedule or 421 00:19:42,784 --> 00:19:45,104 Speaker 1: anything like that, which obviously we don't know. But this 422 00:19:45,224 --> 00:19:47,664 Speaker 1: idea that you can kind of just buy a baby 423 00:19:47,904 --> 00:19:50,384 Speaker 1: is this kind of ugly term that's been thrown around, 424 00:19:50,424 --> 00:19:52,744 Speaker 1: and it's been thrown at celebrities obviously because they're in 425 00:19:52,784 --> 00:19:55,104 Speaker 1: the public eye and they have the money. And that 426 00:19:55,224 --> 00:19:57,424 Speaker 1: was sort of the thing with Millie, Bobby Brown and 427 00:19:57,544 --> 00:20:01,144 Speaker 1: Jake bon Jovi, is this allegation that they had kind 428 00:20:01,144 --> 00:20:03,664 Speaker 1: of jumped the queue because it's so hard for most 429 00:20:03,704 --> 00:20:06,704 Speaker 1: people to adopt. I mean, particularly in Australia, but like 430 00:20:06,744 --> 00:20:09,464 Speaker 1: where adoption rates are really falling because it's becoming harder 431 00:20:09,504 --> 00:20:12,064 Speaker 1: to access. But also in the US, this idea that 432 00:20:12,104 --> 00:20:14,024 Speaker 1: they were like playing house because they were kids and 433 00:20:14,064 --> 00:20:16,304 Speaker 1: had jumped the queue. But it kind of made me 434 00:20:16,344 --> 00:20:18,624 Speaker 1: feel of that conversation that we were having over twenty 435 00:20:18,704 --> 00:20:21,504 Speaker 1: years ago when like Madonna and Angelina, Jolly and all 436 00:20:21,504 --> 00:20:24,024 Speaker 1: these celebrities, like there was this huge surge and like 437 00:20:24,104 --> 00:20:27,184 Speaker 1: celebrities adopting children from overseas, and it was seen as 438 00:20:27,264 --> 00:20:30,184 Speaker 1: kind of like a trend of adopting designer babies, and 439 00:20:30,224 --> 00:20:32,664 Speaker 1: that upset a lot of people as well because it 440 00:20:32,744 --> 00:20:34,904 Speaker 1: was something that wasn't accessible to them unless they had 441 00:20:34,944 --> 00:20:37,784 Speaker 1: money for like lawyers and travel and to show that 442 00:20:37,824 --> 00:20:40,184 Speaker 1: they had like this home that they would be chosen 443 00:20:40,224 --> 00:20:42,384 Speaker 1: from a list. And so it feels like we're having 444 00:20:42,384 --> 00:20:45,544 Speaker 1: that conversation now, just in a different way as the 445 00:20:45,624 --> 00:20:47,504 Speaker 1: conversation itself changes. 446 00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:48,904 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day as well. 447 00:20:48,944 --> 00:20:52,104 Speaker 2: I mean, she has expressed a want to be a 448 00:20:52,144 --> 00:20:55,704 Speaker 2: mother and to be a young mother, and I understand 449 00:20:55,784 --> 00:20:58,424 Speaker 2: that desire to be a mother from a very young age. 450 00:20:58,504 --> 00:21:00,544 Speaker 2: She was talking about how you know, she was always 451 00:21:00,544 --> 00:21:04,544 Speaker 2: playing with dolls, like being a mother felt like her calling. 452 00:21:04,984 --> 00:21:07,184 Speaker 2: And honestly, that is how I always felt when I 453 00:21:07,264 --> 00:21:09,224 Speaker 2: was younger, like I wanted to be a young mom too. 454 00:21:09,344 --> 00:21:13,104 Speaker 2: I wanted to Like that was always something that really 455 00:21:13,104 --> 00:21:16,024 Speaker 2: called to me. Because so I can understand that. Let's 456 00:21:16,064 --> 00:21:19,024 Speaker 2: not forget she's been acting since she was like eleven 457 00:21:19,104 --> 00:21:21,904 Speaker 2: twelve years old. She's been on strangers and thinks. She's 458 00:21:21,944 --> 00:21:25,144 Speaker 2: had a very full life, and she's come with a 459 00:21:25,144 --> 00:21:28,944 Speaker 2: lot of criticism against her as she's become a woman. 460 00:21:29,264 --> 00:21:32,424 Speaker 2: And this happens with child stars a lot, as soon 461 00:21:32,464 --> 00:21:35,304 Speaker 2: as they go through from their child star days to 462 00:21:35,584 --> 00:21:39,824 Speaker 2: becoming adults and becoming more comfortable with their bodies, whether 463 00:21:39,864 --> 00:21:42,704 Speaker 2: that's in a more sexual way or showing off like 464 00:21:42,824 --> 00:21:45,904 Speaker 2: Milly Bobby Brown has faced all this backlash about, you know, 465 00:21:45,944 --> 00:21:48,344 Speaker 2: showing too much skin, she too sexy, like what is 466 00:21:48,384 --> 00:21:51,784 Speaker 2: she doing she looks so it's almost like she can't 467 00:21:52,024 --> 00:21:55,664 Speaker 2: win either way. You know, she's a child star, she's 468 00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:58,584 Speaker 2: gone through this, she's had a very full life, very 469 00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:02,384 Speaker 2: successful career. She's found someone she's loved, she's adopted a child. 470 00:22:02,864 --> 00:22:06,784 Speaker 2: But I also do understand some of the criticisms from 471 00:22:06,824 --> 00:22:09,664 Speaker 2: the other side. Well, thank you so much for listening 472 00:22:09,664 --> 00:22:11,744 Speaker 2: to this Spill today, Hey guys, and don't forget to 473 00:22:11,744 --> 00:22:15,344 Speaker 2: follow us on TikTok and Instagram. We post lots of 474 00:22:15,384 --> 00:22:17,504 Speaker 2: fun stuff there to keep. 475 00:22:17,344 --> 00:22:18,384 Speaker 3: You up to date. 476 00:22:18,824 --> 00:22:21,264 Speaker 2: The Spill is produced by Manisha is Warren with sound 477 00:22:21,264 --> 00:22:24,744 Speaker 2: production by Scott Stronik. 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