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Speaker 1: First of all, I ask if you want to be

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Speaker 2: I would hate to be held back like that.

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Speaker 1: There's no way I would want to settle and stay

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Speaker 2: The new one.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone can recognize, like your beauty or the beauty

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Speaker 1: because someone can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 3: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 3: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 3: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 3: one way. So this is a platform to hear.

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Speaker 2: And explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore,

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Speaker 3: Ugly, The best and worst day will bear all the

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Speaker 3: facets of seizing your yea. I'm Sarah Davidson or a

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Speaker 3: spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the

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Speaker 3: suits and heels to co found matcha Maiden and matcha

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Speaker 3: milk bar, Seize the Ya is a series of conversations

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Speaker 3: on finding a life you love and exploring the self doubt, challenge,

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Speaker 2: Hallo, Lovely neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I know this would normally be a Yays of Our

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Speaker 3: concept for me at the moment, so long story short,

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Speaker 3: this week you're getting two regular interviews. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: next week with the Yays of Our Lives episode on

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Speaker 3: our Northern Territory experience with some delightful co hosts who

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Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to share it with. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure whether it was because of how transformative that trip

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Speaker 3: little reminder to anyone else feeling that way that if

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Speaker 3: has the world. So that is quite Okay, uncertainty get

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Speaker 3: So keeping gentle on yourselves. There's still a lot going

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Speaker 3: Georgie Mankey is our first nurse on the show who

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Speaker 3: absolutely dispels the misconception that nursing is just where you

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Speaker 3: from nursing to complete her yoga teacher training, leading to

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Speaker 3: known her as Fit with Georgie, where she grew quite

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me here. It's so

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Speaker 2: nice to see you. It's been so long.

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Speaker 1: I know, we were just saying that I can't I

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Speaker 3: So before we get started, I always start every episode

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I just finished my night shift and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love that you mentioned not drinking enough water because

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Speaker 3: But all the little diversions and twists and turns and

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Speaker 1: And gymnastics has been like, it's set me up so

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Speaker 1: well for so many different things. You know, I learned

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Speaker 1: all those skills, im packed them with me and ran

440
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Speaker 1: my way off to ICU.

441
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Speaker 3: I think one of the most amazing parts of any

442
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 3: kind of intense, cool career and pathway is that there

443
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: is so much ongoing learning, like more than in any

444
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 3: other field. Your ongoing education is you know, because medicine

445
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 3: is advancing all the time, like you do have this

446
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,479
Speaker 3: constant I mean, it takes to be a surgeon what

447
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: like a million years, but there's always something new to

448
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Speaker 3: learn about the body. So knowing that you know you

449
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 3: could go on and do a POSTGRADEIA and a specialization

450
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Speaker 3: that was different to where you started, and now you're

451
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 3: about to do another graduate diploma, like there's just ongoing

452
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: learning with something that makes clearly makes you sparkle.

453
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Speaker 2: I mean, the way your face lights up when.

454
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Speaker 3: You talk about procedures is like I can tell that

455
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Speaker 3: you're doing something that you really love.

456
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Speaker 2: And I'm like.

457
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Speaker 3: A big medical nerd, and I think if I wasn't,

458
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Speaker 3: if old me wasn't as scared of blood as she was,

459
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Speaker 3: even though now I'm fascinated by it, I would have

460
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Speaker 3: loved this career, which is why I talking to people

461
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: like you was like, I need to hear about how

462
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 3: you interbate people. I'm so excited to talk about I

463
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Speaker 3: see you, but first I would love to talk about

464
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Speaker 3: your little diversion that happened in the middle of all this.

465
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Speaker 3: Between the ward work and then going back to study

466
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Speaker 3: for ICU, there was a very large yogi phase where

467
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Speaker 3: you did your yoga teacher training, spent quite a long

468
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Speaker 3: time in India. You also on the side had been

469
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Speaker 3: running this huge account fit with Georgie that I when

470
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Speaker 3: I first met you, we had been, you know, going

471
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Speaker 3: to a lot of events and a lot of them

472
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Speaker 3: were during the day, and You're like, yeah, I have

473
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Speaker 3: a full time job as well, And I was like,

474
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Speaker 3: what do you mean, how are you?

475
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Speaker 2: How are you juggling all this?

476
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Speaker 3: And I think what's beautiful in being friends with someone

477
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 3: for this long is that you can I remember talking

478
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Speaker 3: to you in that phase where you were like, I

479
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Speaker 3: think I need some time away from nursing. But now

480
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 3: seeing that your back studying and like doing what you

481
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: love is so exciting. But talk us through that whole

482
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: transition out and back in, because diversions out of what

483
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: you love to come back into them, that's part of

484
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: the story. But I think we we get so scared

485
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Speaker 3: of losing what we have. There's so much prestige wrapped

486
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Speaker 3: up in the intellect of what you were doing. And

487
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 3: then to go into yoga sort of like such a

488
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Speaker 3: different world and different metrics, and yeah, talk us through

489
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Speaker 3: all of that sort of Twenty nineteen was I twenty eighteen,

490
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Pase eighteen eighteen, I think it was, Yeah, Yeah, So

492
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Speaker 1: like guess the opportunity like started. So I had like

493
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Speaker 1: a just a temporary contract at the Rest marinal Ward

494
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Speaker 1: that I worked on my contract. You know, it was

495
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before it was up, and I

496
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Speaker 1: went to my boss and I said, my contract is ending.

497
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Speaker 1: I want to stay working here, but I also want

498
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Speaker 1: to take the opportunity of my contract ending to travel.

499
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Speaker 1: I hadn't done the whole like big travel kind of

500
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Speaker 1: thing like since finishing school.

501
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Speaker 2: So I said, I want to travel. Can I have

502
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Speaker 2: a job when I come back?

503
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Speaker 1: And she said, no, worries, I'll give you a permanent

504
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: like here's a permanent contract. Come back whenever you're ready.

505
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: You can have leave without pay, just please come back.

506
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: So kudos to my boss, and hopefully that's a reflection

507
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Speaker 1: of me and me as a as a staff member

508
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Speaker 1: and as a worker.

509
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I was really valued.

510
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Speaker 1: So I was very lucky to have a job to

511
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Speaker 1: come back to. I ended up taking seven months off.

512
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Speaker 1: I went and I traveled Europe for six months all

513
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Speaker 1: throughout the summer and winter actually, and then smack bang

514
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Speaker 1: in the middle of my like Europe sort of UK travels,

515
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: I spent five or six weeks in India and that

516
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Speaker 1: was like the first part of my trip that I booked.

517
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Speaker 1: And when I got home, people would say like, oh,

518
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Speaker 1: you know, I went to twenty one different countries.

519
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: And people say, you know, you were traveling Europe. Where

520
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Speaker 2: was the best?

521
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Speaker 1: And I said, I would say India. Everyone was confused.

522
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, India is not in Europe, Like what

523
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Speaker 1: do you mean? But truly it was. It was my

524
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Speaker 1: absolute favorite of them all. So yeah, I booked my

525
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Speaker 1: spot on a yoga teacher training with some very good

526
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Speaker 1: friends of mine that they are Melbourne based I guess

527
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: company that run yoga teacher trainings And.

528
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Speaker 2: Was that with Josh Blair.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I went over and I did my

530
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Speaker 1: yoga teacher training with them in India.

531
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Speaker 2: And we were in Rishakesh.

532
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Speaker 1: Which is literally fought to be the birthplace of yoga,

533
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: where it was conceptualized and written down on I.

534
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: Think a banana leaf or a palm leaf, for of

535
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Speaker 2: course it was exactly you know.

536
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Speaker 1: We stayed at the foothills of the Himalia, right along

537
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: the Ganges or Ganga it's called you know, the Holy River,

538
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Speaker 1: and yeah, we learned for a month how to be

539
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Speaker 1: yoga teachers. It was absolutely phenomenal. And by then I

540
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: think I had already I had sort of learned and

541
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Speaker 1: practiced on my own for a while, and then yeah,

542
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen is when I took the leap to then

543
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Speaker 1: learn how to be a teacher. And that was very

544
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Speaker 1: fortunate that at the end of my teacher training, Josh

545
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: and IZI on behalf of on people invited me back

546
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Speaker 1: the next year to go and facilitate the training the

547
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Speaker 1: year after, so I went back the year later to

548
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Speaker 1: India again, which was absolutely beautiful.

549
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

550
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Speaker 3: That's why I feel like you were there for two years,

551
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: because like you kind of were, but just there was

552
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 3: a big gap in between.

553
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
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Speaker 3: So, something I always talk about on CCA is the

555
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: importance of moving away from your vocation and your profession

556
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: and how sometimes you know that seems like like I

557
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: remember when I was in the law firm, I didn't

558
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: want to take any time off, even to do postgrad,

559
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: even if it was still in law, because the sense

560
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: of being left behind your cohort and like losing time.

561
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Speaker 3: And also just like you know, I find that if

562
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Speaker 3: I haven't done something in a little while, even if

563
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Speaker 3: I haven't done yoga in a couple of weeks. When

564
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: I come back, I'm like, am I a beginner? Do

565
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: I even know how to do this? Like the fear

566
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: of losing that side of your brain when you go

567
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: and do something different. It's scary to take that much

568
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: time away from something that you love, But I also

569
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: think you bring back so much richness and depth by

570
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: doing something different. And it doesn't have to be a

571
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Speaker 3: seven month global twenty one country exploration.

572
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: It could just be like a weekend or a month.

573
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Speaker 3: But getting away from what you do to come back

574
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: is so valuable, even though I don't think we prioritize

575
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: that very much.

576
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Speaker 2: How did you, I mean get the balls to do that?

577
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Speaker 2: Were you worried about?

578
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know you a job when you came back,

579
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: but what pushed you to do such a big undertaking?

580
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: And then what do you think you brought back to

581
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: it afterwards that has enriched you since then?

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

583
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: I think well, as I said, yeah, I was very

584
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: lucky to come back to a job, and I met

585
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of travelers along the way and all my

586
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: trip that didn't have that privilege. I realized pretty quick

587
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Speaker 1: that I was very lucky and it was quite a

588
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: privilege that not everyone has when they do those travels

589
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: that I did get to. I knew I had a

590
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed income when I got when I got home, but

591
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: you're right, I hadn't actually really thought of that in

592
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: terms of like the need to maybe to dip out

593
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: of out of my profession and what I was in

594
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: before coming back, and how I would be coming back

595
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: or whether it would be would be any different, But

596
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: it was just, yeah, it was the right timing in

597
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: terms of like the I guess the phase of my.

598
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: Life as well. It just seemed right.

599
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Speaker 1: And I'd love to, you know, claim that I came

600
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: back enlightened or so much more holy or more down

601
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: to earth. I don't know, but I just think I

602
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: came back with a lot more you knows and memories

603
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: and you know, just more enriched with experience. Yeah, and

604
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: then I came back with like a fire in my

605
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: belly and a zest. I thought, I don't like it

606
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: when people say, like, I've done Europe, I've done?

607
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: Can you do Europe? I don't know who you know.

608
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: I sort of quenched that first to get away and

609
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: do this big travel, and then I came back and

610
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, you know career and you know

611
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: this is where I want to go next. And it

612
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: was almost like a launching pad to be like okay,

613
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: what's next, Like how do I pivot from here?

614
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: And where am I going to go next? Yeah, so

615
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: it was kind of like a gap year.

616
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Speaker 3: Like it sounds like, it wasn't I'm going to do

617
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: my teacher training to now be a yoga teacher and

618
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: leave nursing all together. It was like a little hiatus

619
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: of life for you to go and gather yourself and

620
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: do something completely different. And I actually think a lot

621
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Speaker 3: of people do their teacher training not necessarily because they

622
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: want to be a yoga teacher is their job. It's

623
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: like such a transformative process in itself for your own

624
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: practice or for maybe down the track being able to teach.

625
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: But the fact that you came back to nursing I

626
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: think is really interesting as well, because again I think

627
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: people who are so focused on productivity would be like, well,

628
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: why did you go and do this training when that's

629
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: not what you wanted to use it for. But again,

630
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: I love that you're just you seem very balanced in

631
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: that it was like it's a life experience that I

632
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: had on my list, and I need to get out of.

633
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: My body one hundred percent. Yeah, and I like I did.

634
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: So I came back and I taught for about a year,

635
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: but I kept my regular nursing hours, trying to fit

636
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 1: it in in my days off or like around my

637
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: my nursing.

638
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: My nursing job was tough.

639
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: Shift work is tough in the first place, let alone

640
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: trying to fit in teaching as well. And me being me,

641
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: I guess I'm quite I carry. I feel like I

642
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of excitement and hope, and maybe I

643
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: think I probably put fair bit of pressure on myself

644
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: potentially from like the relative success or the growth that

645
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: was my Instagram up until I did my teacher training.

646
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: I came back thinking that I should and will be

647
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: a great teacher. That's not the way it works. No

648
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: one just does one little certificate and comes back and

649
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: are amazing. I do that.

650
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: But I still thought, this is going to be great.

651
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: I can high achieve this situation. I can high achieve

652
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: my way through it.

653
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, type A, I'm going to smash it out, but

654
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: I type aid the shit out of it, to the

655
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: point where I was like I was getting myself really

656
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: like worked up and quite anxious in teaching, and I

657
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: got to the point where, yeah, I'd be really stressed

658
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: out and putting in so much energy and effort and

659
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: creating the perfect playlists and all of these things just

660
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: to yeah, I kind of I feel like I lost

661
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: a bit of like love for teaching. And you know,

662
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: then I wasn't doing my own yoga practice when I

663
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: was teaching as much, which is a classic case for anyone.

664
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I think people that our own gyms don't always have

665
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: time to train, And yeah, I kind of I lost

666
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: the love for teaching and sort of lost my practice

667
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: amidst that. So yeah, I ended up dropping the teaching

668
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: and nursing has always been like my passion. So even

669
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: though you know, I love yoga and I thought that

670
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: I wouldsolutely love teaching, and I thought I'd be able

671
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: to balance the two, maybe drop some nursing hours and

672
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: teach and you know, keep them working together, I guess.

673
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: But through that experience, it just helped me like recognize

674
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: and realize that whilst they both you know, are are

675
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: a way of like you know, showing like love and

676
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: appreciation and compassion for the body in very different ways,

677
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: nursing is just where it's at for me, And that

678
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: just to me highlighted that that how much I love it,

679
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Like I could talk to people until like the leg

680
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: falls off a chair, how much I love nursing.

681
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: I just didn't.

682
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: I didn't get that with my yoga teaching. So I

683
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: think one day I would love to be able to

684
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: bring yoga teaching or you know, yoga classes to the

685
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: hospital or to healthcare professionals. I think there's a big

686
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: gap and a big role for that for shift workers

687
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: who are under the pump, who are stressed, who are

688
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: working weird hours. You know, we're putting our minds in

689
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: our bodies on the line. I'd love to maybe one

690
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: day amalgamate that together.

691
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

692
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that I've read in your

693
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: goal setting from the start of twenty twenty of your

694
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: post grade year was that good things take time, great

695
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: things take a lifetime. And I think you're such a

696
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: wonderful example of someone who's multi interested and multi passionate.

697
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: How it is all just a juggling act, and every

698
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: part of every experience is figuring out what works and

699
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: what doesn't, And you try and do both for some times,

700
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: and then you might realize, actually my dominant passion right

701
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: now is nursing, and then maybe in ten years time

702
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: it'll go back to yoga. And I love that you're

703
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: really showing just how flexible you have to be towards

704
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: what suits your life at what times. But if nursing

705
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 3: is what really really lights you up right now, I

706
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: love that that's what you're doing with yourself. And that's

707
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: why I wanted to get you on the show so much,

708
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: because it shines.

709
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: Through how passionate you are about what you do.

710
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: And we haven't had a nurse on the show yet,

711
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: even though we've had many requests, and so now i'd

712
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: love you to just tell us everything you love about it.

713
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: Tell us about doing I see you in COVID, but

714
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: also just doing it generally. I see you fascinates me.

715
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: Your goal this the other year was to try not

716
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: to cry all the time, which I think is like,

717
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: tell us a little bit more about that, Lord, but

718
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: also that you've learned. You know, I think you did

719
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: a little summary post. I've clearly done a lot of stalking.

720
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: You did a little summary post. I'm like, before didn't

721
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: know what propofole was, had never intubated someone before, I'd

722
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: never touched a ventilator. Now love propofole like talk us

723
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: through the wild world, advice Are you nursing? Why you

724
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: love it so much? And maybe you know, maybe just

725
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: maybe we'll spark and some you know, aspiring young nurses

726
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: out there who didn't had never thought of it before.

727
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

728
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: So I guess, like what I learned with the respiratory

729
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: a renal that I that I was nursing, Yeah, I

730
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: learned some really like acute skills. I guess the patients

731
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: that aren't quite managing and aren't quite well enough to

732
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: be managing on their own without you know, extra interventions,

733
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: extra machines and equipment. But I always had this like

734
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: question in the back of my head, and I would

735
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: always like chase after the doctors and go running after people,

736
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: and the drive was but why.

737
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: And I always just I was.

738
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know, And you know, like some

739
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: some people, I would some nurses I would come across

740
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: and we might be talking and I would ask them like, oh,

741
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: why are you doing that? And they'd say because the

742
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: doctor told me to. And I was like, no, no, no,

743
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: my brain just doesn't work like that. So I literally

744
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: would be the nurse that would run after the doctors

745
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, can you explain this to me?

746
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: And I always just wanted to know more, And so

747
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: I think, deep down in the back of my head,

748
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: I always knew I would wanted to end up in

749
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: ic you and that would have been the driving force.

750
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Is that curiosity to want to know the whys? And

751
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: then you know why again and why again? And you like, yeah,

752
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: just to keep nitpicking. And so I thought the best

753
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: place to land for that is intensive care where you've

754
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: got the sickest of the sick people on life support,

755
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: people who you know have died and.

756
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: You know you've brought them back through like your CPR.

757
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Or who are trying to die, or you know, who

758
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: are acutely deteriorating. And the thing that we can do.

759
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Two things that fascinate me so much about intensive care

760
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: is like the first is that like what we have

761
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: at our fingertips to keep people alive in terms of

762
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: medicines and procedures and equipment, Like, it's absolutely amazing. It's

763
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: mind boggling. And I see you that I work out,

764
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: it's just a tiny little baby, I see you. Compared

765
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to some of the major city ones that have so

766
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: many things that they can do to keep someone alive.

767
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: And the second thing that fascinates me about intensive care

768
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: and is just the human body and how hard it

769
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: works and exactly what it can do and for how

770
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: long it will work so hard to keep your body

771
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: in equilibrium and keep your body trying to be as

772
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: best as what it can be even though you know

773
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: things are going wrong. It's fascinating to see all of

774
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: the things the body can do on its own to

775
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: just keep you rocking and rolling as smoothly as possible.

776
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: It's just amazing.

777
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, more and more, I'm like, I need

778
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: to be in a hospital.

779
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: This is so fascinating.

780
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: That's too geek for it as well, as you said,

781
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: like you know, forever learning. It's the career that honestly,

782
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: like I say it as a joke, but it's so true,

783
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: Like I literally learned something new every day. Like it's

784
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: such a great career and place to have landed to

785
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: the curious brain that loves the body.

786
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about from the more practical side of things,

787
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: like obviously you've just come off a night shift and

788
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: that's incredibly hard on the body. Also, some of the

789
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: procedures that you get to do, like tell us about

790
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: what profofile actually is like, so that we can walk

791
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: away from this episode with some nursing knowledge and what.

792
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: You know day to day.

793
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: What are some of the things you might see And

794
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: I imagine in ICU, because it's not specific to a

795
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: part of the body, that you do get just such

796
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: a broad range of medicine. You know that is different

797
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: for every patient and every day.

798
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what a typical day would be, like, I guess,

799
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: so we work like twelve hour shifts, so it's you know,

800
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: like eight until eight or eight until eight.

801
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's one chunk of like the day or

802
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: the night.

803
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's it is a long shift. But I

804
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: guess the benefits to that is it's continuity of care.

805
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: You get to spend twelve hours with your patient. You

806
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: really get to know them. You get to know, you know,

807
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: like what's going on internally by looking at their blood

808
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: work and all their numbers, and you get to know

809
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: them in terms of their past history and things that

810
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: you know are playing a role into why they're in

811
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: a bed in front of you. And you know, you

812
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: get to watch trends. Maybe you give a medicine at

813
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: eight am and by four pm you see this huge

814
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: change because you've given this stuff. So the twelve hour

815
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: shifts I think are great. Sometimes if maybe if it

816
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: wasn't the nicest patient in front of you, it can

817
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: be a long twelve hours. It can be pretty tough

818
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: sometiss You know, it's not nice getting yelled at for

819
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: twelve hours or you know, getting stuff thrown at you

820
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: or things like that.

821
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: But that's rare. That's very funny.

822
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: How many people, yeah, ask like, oh, first of all,

823
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: I ask if you want to be a doctor or

824
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: when you're going to be a doctor, and then if

825
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: you say no to that, then they ask you if

826
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: you want to marry a doctor? No, Yeah, so many

827
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: people's it's kind of a bit okay, go a bit

828
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 1: old not okay, because's a bit old school.

829
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: Now I'm not here to marry a doctor.

830
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: I want to sell r But also I would love

831
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: to know, like, is it frustrating that people ask you

832
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: that all the time, particularly if that's not what you want?

833
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: But secondly, why is it, Like what is it about

834
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: a doctor's role versus a nurse's role that you that

835
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 3: makes you so excited about nursing and not so excited

836
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: about being a doctor.

837
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: So first of all, like I, yeah, I never wanted

839
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: to be a doctor, even when I finished school. That

840
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: was never a goal of mine to be a doctor,

841
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: and I never thought like, oh, I'll do this and

842
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: make my way. Even though you're both working within the

843
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: same hospital with exactly the same patient, Like, the discipline

844
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: is so different. Their level of knowledge is insane and

845
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I don't think I'm smart enough to be

846
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: a doctor.

847
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: I will get to imposter syndrome after this. I'm here

848
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: for it.

849
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: No, Originally I thought I just didn't want to study

850
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: for that long. Doctors usually study at least six years

851
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: and then all of the internships and all that.

852
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: But by the time I'm.

853
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: Finishing the course that I am doing now, I will

854
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: have studied for seven years.

855
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: So that's not a reason.

856
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's like the patient care side of it.

857
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: I love, you know, being the one to deliver the

858
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: care and being by the bedside with the patient where

859
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I can spend time giving myself and my love and

860
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: my nurturance and my skill, my knowledge, my understanding, my

861
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: past experience to this patient or patience. If I've got

862
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: a few Yeah, it's a real privilege for us to

863
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: be there as part of the person's life, you know,

864
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: when they're maybe having like the worst day of their life,

865
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: then that we get to be there for so long.

866
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Whereas the doctors are obviously managing multiple patients. You know

867
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: our ICU, you know we've got up to fifteen beds,

868
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: some wards have thirty plus beds, and you know they're

869
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: ordering care and you know, overseeing all this stuff, but

870
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: they're not directly involved with the patients. I guess as

871
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: much or as long as the nurses. And as I said,

872
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: I I just don't think I have enough brain space

873
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: to hold what they know. It's madness. My hat cos

874
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: off to them, just how much they know, it's insane.

875
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: How knowledgeable our doctors are.

876
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's actually really really important insight, because again,

877
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: until you have a friend who works in a hospital

878
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: or knows someone who is a nurse and also knows

879
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: someone who's a doctor, so you can can even compare

880
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: what they do day to day, I don't think many

881
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: people would have heard that insight before that nursing is

882
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 3: a lot of the patient care, and the doctors are

883
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: doing the supervisory thing at the top so if the

884
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: patient interaction is your passion, you won't necessarily get.

885
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: That outside of a nursing role.

886
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: And I love that you chose nursing for nursing, not

887
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: as a default doctoring like many people would assume. But

888
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: I also would love to move on to the way

889
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: that you know. One of the topics we talk about

890
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 3: the most in the next section NATA is self doubt

891
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: and imposter syndrome and the fact that your explanation was

892
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: because you love nursing, but also because you don't think

893
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: you'd be smart enough to be a doctor, which is

894
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: a ridiculous thing to say, because I'm I feel like

895
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: it takes equally and very different intellect but still an

896
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: incredible amount of knowledge to hold into your head inside

897
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: your head to be a nurse. How do you think

898
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: self doubt has played out for you over the years.

899
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: Has it been something where particularly in a pathway where

900
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: you've had a lot of tidal changes and you've had

901
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: a lot of different worlds as well where you've been successful,

902
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: So the Instagram world, being fit.

903
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: With Georgie and that was on a huge trajectory.

904
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: And then focusing more on yoga you and not having

905
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: you know, not being in a hospital and being a

906
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: yoga teacher where there's not as much prestige as medicine,

907
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: but there's a different world of values, and you were

908
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: gaining a big name there and then coming back to hospitals.

909
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: I imagine worrying about whether your decisions are right, and

910
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 3: also worrying that you've been a newbie quite a few

911
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: times now as well, and in an area like medicine

912
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: where you are constantly learning new things and might be

913
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: doing procedures you've never done before. You know, even ten

914
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: years into your career could be doing something new. How

915
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: do you cope with that? Am I good enough to

916
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: be here? Do I know what I'm doing? How that

917
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: played out for you?

918
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

919
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever like doubted myself in terms

920
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: of nursing. I've never doubted myself so much until I

921
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: moved to ICU. I was so excited to get there,

922
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: and I thought I thought that the transition coming from

923
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: where I did work would be not easy, but I

924
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: thought it would be like smooth. And then I got

925
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: there and I was like, oh my god. As I said, like, so,

926
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: propofol is a sedation you give it into, It's an

927
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: infusion you give into the veins through a drip, and

928
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: it just puts people off to sleep into what you

929
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: would say, like in air quotes, like an induced coma.

930
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: I had no idea what that was.

931
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: There were so many things in ic that I had

932
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: absolutely zero clue about, and so I had this huge

933
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: but I'd been nursing by then for like five years,

934
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: so I had this level of experience about me. But

935
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: then I just jumped into a completely different pond, I guess,

936
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: and I was all of a sudden, a tiny little

937
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: fish in a huge pond.

938
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: Where it was really it was really hard.

939
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: It was tough, I guess, tough on the ego for

940
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: me to feel out of my depth and so new

941
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: and fresh somewhere.

942
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: But that was also I guess, like, look.

943
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: Looking back at it, I really strengthening and potentially humbling

944
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of experience. I know when I left where I

945
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: had worked, I had a colleague say to me like,

946
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: oh wow, I'd love to do that, but I could

947
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: never be the new person.

948
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: I just don't want to leave, you know, where I

949
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: am here. I'm too comfortable. And I remember.

950
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: Thinking like, oh my god, like I would hate to

951
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: be held back like that. There's no way I would

952
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: want to just settle and stay somewhere just because I

953
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: feel comfortable and I'm afraid to be the new one.

954
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think that's ever held me back,

955
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: which is which is a good thing. I think it's

956
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: a strength of mind that I'm not afraid to be new,

957
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: or be fresh, or you know, not understand or be

958
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone. But yeah, with that came

959
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of quick learning that really

960
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: like knocked. It knocked my confidence a lot moving somewhere

961
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: like that. And then in terms of impostera syndrome, I

962
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: guess there's a link between my social media so I

963
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: fit with Georgie that so I changed I changed the

964
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: name of it to my my name sort of actually

965
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: after my India trip where I really decided to take ownership,

966
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: I guess of me, so I changed it to that

967
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: and sort of focus shifted a little bit, I guess

968
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. I diverted away so much from my

969
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: social media. I haven't been as active on it or

970
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: as vocal as what I used to be in the

971
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: same way that I used to be. As I said, like,

972
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: I've always known that nursing is my key passion and

973
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: that social media. You know, I guess I gathered some

974
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: momentum when when Instagram yoga was quite new, and so

975
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: I was part of this like u upcoming of Instagram yoga,

976
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I was very lucky and very fortunate

977
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: with that, and it led me to doing things like

978
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: my teacher training, and it gave me so many amazing

979
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: opportunities and I got to do so many cool things

980
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: with it.

981
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: But and it comes I'm sure you get it as well.

982
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: It comes with having like a public social media profile

983
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: that a lot of people knew who I was and

984
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know who they were. And it happened a

985
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: lot at my work. And so when I moved to

986
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: the ICU, and even when I moved to you know,

987
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: the hospital workout in general, I had people that I'd

988
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: never even met, nurses that I'd never even met, that

989
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: they knew me. And with that fact that now I

990
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: spoke a lot about yoga and meditation and mindfulness and

991
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: spirituality and things like that, a lot of people thought that,

992
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm supposed to be this the yoga girl.

993
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: Like I actually had someone say to me like, oh,

994
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: you're the yoga girl. And people that I didn't know

995
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: came up to me and said, like, how was your

996
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: trip in India and all this stuff, and it actually

997
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: it kind of made me feel a bit like uneasy

998
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, I actually really really mindful

999
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: about what I'm putting out on my social media and

1000
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: also that these people that I have no idea about

1001
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: who I'm working professionally with, they know a lot about me,

1002
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: and I just I sort of took a maybe I

1003
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: put the brakes on a little bit with my social

1004
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: media over the last few years for that reason that

1005
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know, I don't know what

1006
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: I'm getting at, but I found it, Yeah, I found

1007
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: it a little bit impostery, and that I would arrive

1008
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: at a new workplace and a lot of people knew

1009
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: who I was when I had no idea who they were.

1010
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: It kind of, yeah, it got to me a little bit.

1011
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: I think it's also really interesting to hear from someone

1012
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: who does have you do have kind of both. You

1013
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: had quite a big profile in one part of your identity,

1014
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: but in the other. It is not necessarily bad to

1015
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: have anonymity and a clean slate when you arrive at

1016
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: work and you're treating a patient so intimately, and you know,

1017
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: you're in a workplace, and you know, for people who's

1018
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: only voca, whose only profession and job is based on

1019
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: social media ramping up like myself at the moment, it

1020
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: all ties together, so it kind of makes sense. But

1021
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting for people to hear that

1022
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: for some people, they're two different worlds and there is

1023
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 3: a bit of a juggle and more and bigger isn't

1024
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: always better because it maybe doesn't serve the purposes that

1025
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: you want it to. So I think that's also a

1026
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: good reminder to everyone to find the relationship with these

1027
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: platforms that works for your life, and that doesn't necessarily

1028
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: mean being on it all the time, even if you

1029
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: do get wonder of all opportunities from that. There are

1030
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: some life structures where you do want to take your

1031
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 3: foot off off the accelerator a little bit and allow

1032
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: yourself some privacy and anonymity and to separate parts.

1033
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: Of your life. Yeah, exactly.

1034
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: And I think like one of the main reasons that

1035
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: I sort of got a bit funny about it for

1036
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: a while, Yeah, I think I think people had a

1037
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: preconceived idea about me just through like these tiny little

1038
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: images that they would see on the screen. And you know,

1039
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: I definitely think that I've always been myself on social media.

1040
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: I've always been very just me, very you know, upfront

1041
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: and very like honest and humble.

1042
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know a lot of people thought that

1043
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: I would.

1044
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Be this like chill, calm, like spiritual person and then yeah,

1045
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: stressed and anxious and yeah you said before like try

1046
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: not to cry all the time. And these people like

1047
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: are looking around at each other like, isn't this chick

1048
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be like really.

1049
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: Chill, isn't she? Butder like, what is happening? She's closing

1050
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: the sentence on her cubicle and crying so no one

1051
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: can see it.

1052
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: I think people like they mistake that that I do

1053
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: yoga and that I'm like this real chill person, that

1054
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm so zen and I meditate. I do that because

1055
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: I am naturally an anxious person, and I'm naturally a

1056
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, quite a stressed person that is that type

1057
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: a like brain always run and.

1058
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of the opposite. It's like chicken and

1059
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: the egg, well.

1060
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: On that, how do you manage the anxiousness and perfectionism

1061
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: but also not just physical fatigue doing shift work, but

1062
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: the compassion fatigue that I imagine would be really hard

1063
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: to when you are a nurturer to leave some of

1064
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: those cases at work when you need to come home

1065
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: and like sleep and rest and not be everything to

1066
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: that person for the whole time that you're treating them.

1067
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: How do you kind of put up boundaries if.

1068
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: You have any, It's interesting they're boundaries and yeah, that's

1069
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: something that you don't like.

1070
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: You don't just get that. You don't just have that as.

1071
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: A nurser, as a professional, and you don't really learn

1072
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: that at UNI, I guess, and I think I think

1073
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: everyone has the intention to that. We always try and

1074
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: put ourselves in the place of the patient and think that,

1075
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, if it was me or if it was

1076
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: my grandma or my loved one, you know, in the bed,

1077
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: what would I want for them? And so I do

1078
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: find myself giving a lot of myself, you know, it's

1079
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: to me, it's no small it's no small feet. It

1080
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't take away from me as such like

1081
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: for me, and I think because I am I have

1082
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: like that nurturing nature to me that it feels my

1083
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: cup to be giving myself to others in that way,

1084
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't drain me so much, but you know, compassion

1085
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: fatigue or burnout definitely is a thing, and we do

1086
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: have to be mindful of, you know, making sure you

1087
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: know the classicology can't pour from an empty cup, and

1088
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: making sure that we are looking after ourselves. And one

1089
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: thing I've learned, I guess, especially in intensive care or

1090
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: and throughout my career though, is just that knowing and

1091
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: learning when to ask for help before you get to

1092
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: breaking point. You know, There's been many times where I've

1093
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: left work and thought like, oh, I could have done

1094
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: better here, and those are the things that keep me

1095
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: up at night, feeling like I could have done better,

1096
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: or that even though I tried my hardest, I still

1097
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: feel like I didn't do enough. But I know that

1098
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: I always do give my best. Sometimes it just doesn't

1099
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: feel like you've been able to do enough.

1100
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally so in terms of that, like giving yourself

1101
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: a brother. The last section is your play toya, which

1102
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: is how you find joy that's not related to nursing

1103
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: and that's not related to caring, and that's not teaching

1104
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: you anything or winning or achieving anything. And obviously I

1105
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: know yoga is a big joy for you. But that's

1106
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: also kind of a profession for you. So are there

1107
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: any smaller scale not twenty one country trip around the world,

1108
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: Things that you do just to play that you know,

1109
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: make you forget what time it is, or that even

1110
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: just like a Netflix show or reading, like what are

1111
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: your yeah play tyas my plays?

1112
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1113
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I do. I love reading. I never used to read

1114
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: as a kid, but I do love reading now. And

1115
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: I love collecting books. I'd love to have like a

1116
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: home library one days, and like hard copy books, I

1117
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: just love them.

1118
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: I do enjoy that. So reading is one of my passions.

1119
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: I am vegetarian, and for two years I was vegan,

1120
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: and when I turned vegan, I discovered this absolute love

1121
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: for like cooking and baking and creating recipes and making

1122
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: them vegan.

1123
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: So I love like being in the kitchen.

1124
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: I just blast my music really loud, and I'll dance

1125
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: around and I love I guess the creative side of

1126
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe making like a vegan mac and cheese or a

1127
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: vegan pesto or vegan cookies or things like that. You know.

1128
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: I love that creativity or that side of it. It's

1129
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: a different way of expression, I guess, and my mind

1130
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: is focused just on the task. When I'm doing that,

1131
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking like all these other things I'm thinking about,

1132
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, cooking or you know reading. It's something where

1133
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: your mind is kind of like single task focused, which

1134
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: I really enjoy. And as I said, like earlier on,

1135
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I love being down by the beach. So anytime that

1136
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: I can be in the water or near the water

1137
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: or on the sand, I could take a book and

1138
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: be down by the beach for hours and hours.

1139
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: In the depth of the Internet, I also found that

1140
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: you were reading Shantaram while you were in India, which

1141
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: I think is like the coolest thing ever because that's

1142
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 3: one of my favorite books. And I also love reading

1143
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: books about places where you are the time. So I

1144
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: read The Da Vinci Code in Paris while I was

1145
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: like in the places that they were writing about, and

1146
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: there's something's just so cool about being in it while

1147
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: you're reading about it.

1148
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: Did you love Chantram, Yeah, I did.

1149
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: I really loved it. I thought it was great, and

1150
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: I love I do love a good like true story

1151
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: or based on a true story. I seem to love

1152
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: like murder mysteries and those like murder series on that

1153
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: name agreed me out but I love them same.

1154
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 3: It's so bad because everyone's like, aren't you really joy

1155
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: in humanity and kindness focused? And then you like fall

1156
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: to sleep to serial killers. I'm like, yeah, cut up, yep,

1157
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: you know I call that.

1158
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: Balance, don't you balance somewhere?

1159
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: Right?

1160
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: So, guys, if you haven't read Chandram, it's it's a

1161
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: fascinating book about It's kind of it's a true story,

1162
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: but I feel like there's a bit of creative license

1163
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: in there of a guy who escaped from prison and

1164
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: he ended up in a Mumbai slum and he became

1165
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: the slum doctor even though he wasn't a doctor, And

1166
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: I feel like it shows a lot about life in

1167
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: Mumbai and even when he's out in India, like the

1168
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: landscape and an Indian culture that you like enlivens it

1169
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: for you in a way that if you've never been there,

1170
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: I feel like it's really insightful. Just like through a

1171
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: random weird story you get to hear all this stuff

1172
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: about how vibrant and colorful and yeah, weird it is,

1173
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: what a weird and wacky place, and the way that he.

1174
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: Wrote his like rickshaw driver and all that his tour

1175
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: guide would talk to him like even the vocabulary that

1176
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: he used in his book, I would obviously read it

1177
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: in their little accents when they talk to you and

1178
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: they offer you like a rickshaw or a bracelet or things

1179
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: like you know, you've had all of your experiences, and

1180
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: you could hear like just the way he's written it.

1181
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like I could almost hear, you know,

1182
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: the little horns of their little bikes riding down like

1183
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: the dusty roads. And I do I do love reading

1184
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: a book where you've you've been there, you've experienced the place.

1185
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: Before, Yeah, totally.

1186
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: Or just to finish up, what are three interesting things

1187
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: about you that don't normally come up in interviews or conversations?

1188
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: Ooh, how interesting do we want to get?

1189
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: Like?

1190
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: I think the weirder the better.

1191
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay, this is probably like it just fits in with

1192
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: my personality in general. I definitely maybe a little bit,

1193
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: maybe a lot OCD like without being officially diagnosed. So

1194
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: I see you as a great place for OCD to hide.

1195
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic place. But so when I'm hanging my

1196
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: washing out, if I'm hanging like my socks, I always

1197
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: hang my socks in pairs, so they always have to

1198
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: like I'll pick them.

1199
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: I'll find them in the washing basket and hang them together.

1200
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: Both pegs have to be the same color.

1201
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: Cute.

1202
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: That's a little bit OCD, But I just I just

1203
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: can't not do it. I don't know.

1204
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm the same with like volume, I can't do odd numbers,

1205
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: Like I can't leave the car the volume number on

1206
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: odd numbers unless it's a five. Yeah, if it's a five,

1207
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: it fits nicely, So I'm like, that's okay, that's an

1208
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 3: okay number. It's weird, though, Like I get really upset

1209
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: if it's seventeen. I'm like, oh, and locker numbers at

1210
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: the gym, I'm like, if there's not an even number,

1211
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: I will leave my stuff out to be stolen because

1212
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't put it in a seventeen or

1213
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: like thirty three.

1214
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Ill, so funny do you always go to like if

1215
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: you visit the same place again and again, like you'll

1216
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: always go to the same bathroom cubicle or you're always

1217
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: like use the same lift or.

1218
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: Like totally and the same locker. Like if I like

1219
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: and I like twenty four, so if I can get

1220
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: twenty four, I like choosing four, So like, yeah, twelve

1221
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: four too, like any of those numbers six if I

1222
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: have to like eight at a stretch.

1223
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. We all have a funny little like interacies, don't we.

1224
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is where they come out. So that's

1225
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: my favorite, Like tell me more weird things about you.

1226
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: Another similar one, ish is that I seem to have

1227
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: a thing for like number plates, or that I'm just

1228
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: really good. I take note of people's number plates and

1229
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: I have them in my memory or I memorize them.

1230
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: It's because you watch murder Mysteries. Probably it would be

1231
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: a great witness.

1232
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea about car types, but I'd

1233
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: be able to tell you.

1234
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: Their number plate, and like no one even knows their

1235
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: own number plates, so that's like really specific.

1236
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, skill people like you know when you go parking

1237
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to enter your number plate and

1238
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: people are like, oh and I'll blow the number plate

1239
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: out and I'll be like, oh.

1240
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I out of my Yeah, They're awesome.

1241
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: And very last question, since I love quote so much,

1242
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: what's your favorite quote?

1243
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: Yay, Oh my god, I've been listening to some of

1244
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: your podcast, Like let me just say before we finished

1245
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: with a quote, I love listening.

1246
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: To your laugh it's the best.

1247
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: There's that laugh where you're like, oh, like that's funny,

1248
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: and then there's this laugh that you do that's like

1249
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: a real genuine like throats like deep like chuckle laugh.

1250
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: I love it.

1251
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: I can just tell you're genuinely like having a good

1252
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: old laugh, which.

1253
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: That makes me so happy. Except now I'm like, I

1254
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 2: don't want to laugh. In case I do one of them,

1255
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: you'll notice it next time, I bet. Yeah, Oh that's

1256
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: so nice. I like that. Yeah.

1257
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of listening to your podcast

1258
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: is the quote at the end.

1259
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

1260
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: And there's some that you hear and you're like, oh, yes,

1261
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: that's such a goody. And then there's some that you're like, oh,

1262
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. Add that to my little list. Okay,

1263
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: so I have two. One that has I've always loved.

1264
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: I think I like discovered it on Tumblr when I

1265
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: was like a young little teenager, like so many years ago.

1266
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: I know, right tumbla those of the days. But it

1267
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: is so there is beauty in everything, just not everybody

1268
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: can see it.

1269
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: I love that.

1270
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: I love it.

1271
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, I've I've I've had it in

1272
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: my mind since I was like a young little kid,

1273
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's just so great and it's just

1274
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: that like to me, that is that not everyone can

1275
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: can recognize like your beauty or the beauty in something,

1276
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: but that it doesn't matter, you know, it's if it's

1277
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: beautiful to you, whether it's yourself or like your art

1278
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: or your creativity or your work or anything like there

1279
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: is just because someone can't see it doesn't mean it's

1280
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: not there.

1281
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: But I love that one.

1282
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: And my other favorite one, which is when I learned

1283
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: on my yoga teacher training, is what fire doesn't burn,

1284
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: it purifies. So when you think of you know, when

1285
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: you burn gold, it purifies the gold more. Or you know,

1286
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: things like if you think about Australia and we've been

1287
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: on fire and you know our gum trees get burnt

1288
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: back and then they sprout round new little leaves and

1289
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: things like that, like if it's not going to burn,

1290
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: and if it's not going to disintegrate you, which in

1291
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: itself is you know, maybe a euphemism or a metaphor

1292
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: for I guess breaking down to them be able to

1293
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: create again. If it doesn't do that, you know, you're

1294
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: walking through the fire and need to become more pure,

1295
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: to become more you know, to shed things that you

1296
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: don't need, just to become a more truer I guess

1297
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: real version of you.

1298
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's beautiful.

1299
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: I've never heard that one before, which also is really

1300
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: quite hard to find a quote.

1301
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: I've never hed the quote girl has been out quoted

1302
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: you and your atype high achieving have to out quote me.

1303
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm giving too much of myself away,

1304
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: just as things I say. I love it so much.

1305
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so so much for joining me, and

1306
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: particularly at the end of a night shift. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: it so much. And I hope you can go and

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Speaker 3: have a beautiful nap now and enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 2: I certainly will. I will, And thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure and so great to hear your laugh

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