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Speaker 1: But Are You Happy? Did you know that one in
Speaker 1: five Australians experience and mental health condition each year, yet
Speaker 1: too many suffer in silence. Talking about our feelings and
Speaker 1: experiences is one of the most powerful steps towards healing
Speaker 1: and knowing we're not alone. That's why we're introducing I
Speaker 1: Never Told You This, a series created to spark honest,
Speaker 1: meaningful conversations that support better mental well being. Brought to
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Speaker 1: postnatal depression. If you're not in a space to engage
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Speaker 2: I think our family just doesn't deal with emotions very well.
Speaker 2: We're not really there for each other during those moments.
Speaker 3: Two people, one big reveal. I Never Told You This
Speaker 3: a simple card game where one question could change everything.
Speaker 3: It starts LI whats.
Speaker 4: More Things brings you joy.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that.
Speaker 3: Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever.
Speaker 3: As they finished this sentence, I never told you this.
Speaker 1: I've never told you that.
Speaker 3: I never told you this. Today mother and daughter, Judy
Speaker 3: and Christina will be sitting down together.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a lot of vulnerable. Me and my mom
Speaker 2: don't generally talk about our feelings very often.
Speaker 3: Christina has something big to tell her mother.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how she reacts. How are
Speaker 2: you feeling, mom, nembus? Yeah, all Lee a little bit. Mum.
Speaker 2: I know we don't really talk about our emotions very much.
Speaker 2: But I've got these minibank Feely Worst cards here hopefully
Speaker 2: help us park a conversation. Would you like to play?
Speaker 4: Of course? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, oh all right, I'm gonna pick up one. Can
Speaker 2: you tell us something you're grateful for in this family?
Speaker 4: Even we're not getting along sometimes, but I'm grateful to
Speaker 4: have you all in my life. I'm gonna pick up
Speaker 4: a card. Is there a family tradition you hope continuous?
Speaker 4: Poor generation?
Speaker 2: It's karaoke, the traditional Filipino way to celebrate. All right, Mom,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick up the next card. Okay, this one says,
Speaker 2: I never told you this. Back when I was young,
Speaker 2: you know, I had a quite heavy depression and so oh,
Speaker 2: then I'm tearing out pardon. After I had my son River,
Speaker 2: I went through another quite deep kind of spiral of
Speaker 2: depression and anxiety, which I like, never really spoke to
Speaker 2: you guys about. I think our family just doesn't deal
Speaker 2: with emotions very well. I think we don't talk about
Speaker 2: when things get really low. We don't say, you know,
Speaker 2: we're not really there for each other during those moments.
Speaker 4: I know I said that, but even me I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I saw you, you said you're going to therapist or whatever,
Speaker 4: and I'm asking you, but you don't say nothing. I
Speaker 4: don't want to interfer on what you're going through. It's
Speaker 4: not I don't care, it's something like I can see
Speaker 4: that you don't want to share it with me. That's
Speaker 4: why I just step quiet and about how you're feeling.
Speaker 4: You should tell me.
Speaker 1: The rest of this episode of I never told you
Speaker 1: this right after the break.
Speaker 4: Being a mom is not easy. I'm telling you, being
Speaker 4: on my own, I'm not thinking of myself. I always
Speaker 4: think of you, my children, all of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can never deny how much she loved us,
Speaker 2: Like how much you sacrificed to love us and to
Speaker 2: provide for us. I think I know that you don't
Speaker 2: show emotions, but I think I don't. But I think
Speaker 2: the way that you love us is through your actions.
Speaker 4: I get. Yeah, I'm I'm your mom no matter what,
Speaker 4: I'm always there for you. It's not because you're my paperite.
Speaker 2: Now now we've got that.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 4: Sorry, It's like I'm a mom and I'm always there
Speaker 4: no matter what. I'm always there if I can help,
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 2: You look like you're getting a bit of a shot
Speaker 2: all their mom Oh yeah, yeah, true. I think it's
Speaker 2: just hard talking about depression because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, like I know I'm supported by family and
Speaker 2: by you, by Shane, my husband, I feel like my
Speaker 2: brain just automatically skips all those things and be like,
Speaker 2: I should just fix myself because I know I understand.
Speaker 4: I understand that being on my own raising yous. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been through a lot.
Speaker 2: Was it hard because I know you raised us basically
Speaker 2: on your own. Like, did you go through any like
Speaker 2: postpartum depression?
Speaker 4: No, I don't, because I tried to fight for it.
Speaker 4: I work though jobs as well back then, and one
Speaker 4: time it happens to me, I'm so sleepy, I bark
Speaker 4: my car on the sides. I just walk up. The
Speaker 4: sun is coming on my face and I said, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm late, and then I go straight I drive and
Speaker 4: I said, I'm so sorry I fall asleep. You know
Speaker 4: how hard it is. Yeah, we get a chance to
Speaker 4: know more of its utter now that you're grown up.
Speaker 4: Before when you were young, yes, I know you. But
Speaker 4: when you grow up you have your own family. Of course,
Speaker 4: some things you don't tell me anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's just a matter of us
Speaker 2: making sure we reach out to each other, Yes, openly
Speaker 2: talk about things more. It feels good to know that
Speaker 2: you've seen what I went through, and then now knowing
Speaker 2: that I've gone through it again, and we're a little
Speaker 2: bit closer.
Speaker 4: Just knowing that I'm just a pond all away. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can come and see you no matter what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Talking about it early really does help processing those emotions
Speaker 2: and not letting it. I guess spiral as bad as
Speaker 2: it used to get.
Speaker 4: But do you know, the hug and just the embrace
Speaker 4: of your parents at least can really a little bit,
Speaker 4: even just a little bit that's true.
Speaker 2: Can I have a hug mum,