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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mea podcast. Mama Maya acknowledges

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Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast

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Speaker 1: is recorded on. Today, I have an episode that I

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Speaker 1: want to put back in your ears. It's an interview

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Speaker 1: I did last year with a woman called Annie Knight,

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Speaker 1: who was dubbed at the time Australia's most sexually active woman.

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Speaker 1: She is an Only Fans sex worker by her own description,

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Speaker 1: and she told a really interesting story about how she

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Speaker 1: came to start working on OnlyFans, what it's like, how

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Speaker 1: exactly one becomes Australia's most sexually active woman. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: a lot of chafing to me, but it was a

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Speaker 1: really interesting conversation and the reason I wanted to pop

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Speaker 1: it back in your ears is that Annie and her

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Speaker 1: mate and fellow OnlyFans sex worker colleague, Bonnie Blue, have

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Speaker 1: been in the media in the last couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: about their decision to go to schoolies. Now, if if

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Speaker 1: you don't live in Australia, you might not know what

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Speaker 1: as I'm recording this, Bonnie Blues visa was revoked because

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Speaker 1: she was not meant to be working in Australia. She

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Speaker 1: about OnlyFans and how it all works. Annie's still planning

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Speaker 1: she's going with her goal to sleep with six hundred

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Speaker 1: on the Gold Coaster. A lot of people who are

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Speaker 1: really upset about this. I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 1: what to think or how to think about this on

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Speaker 1: No Filter. It's all about really hearing other people's stories

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Speaker 1: and listening to their perspectives. So enjoy or not. My

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Speaker 1: original interview with Annie Knight well Hello, it's me a

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Speaker 1: Friedman back in your ears on a podcast called No

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Speaker 1: Filter Now to pull back the curtain a little bit,

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Speaker 1: then explain how I choose who to interview my filter

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Speaker 1: for No Filter. My no filter filter, I guess you'd

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Speaker 1: call it, has always been very unscientific. It's been things

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Speaker 1: And one of the things people will always be curious about.

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Speaker 2: Is sex editing my own sex tape. It's interesting because again,

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Speaker 2: like you know, I might catch myself at a weird

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Speaker 1: Now, if you google the phrase the world's most sexually

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Speaker 1: active woman, as I did in preparation for the interview,

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Speaker 1: search results you'll get is a documentary on YouTube called

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Speaker 1: Meet the Focons. It is about sixty nine year old

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Speaker 1: No Filter and why I love to host it. This

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Speaker 1: But funnily enough, this story is less about sex and

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Speaker 1: Annie is a twenty seven year old woman from Brisbane

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Speaker 1: is not the golden goose of the gig economy. There

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Speaker 1: Google search and the descriptor Australia's most promiscuous woman or

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Speaker 2: to try anything, really anything, Yeah, most things?

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Speaker 1: So is Annie actually the most sexually active woman in Australia?

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Speaker 1: A great question. And that's another story, one that you

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Speaker 1: It goes without saying, at least it should if you've

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Speaker 1: Did you decide to do marketing with a view to

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Speaker 1: So when you grew up, what kind of ideas about

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Speaker 1: So when did you start going on only fans? Did

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Speaker 2: in Covid. I started posting tiktoks and then I realized

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Speaker 2: So yeah, probably after like nine months of doing TikTok,

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Speaker 1: Were on TikTok. What kind of videos were you posting?

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Speaker 1: Were you doing the dances in covid or were you

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Speaker 1: already posting? Kind of got all the words I think

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Speaker 1: of is so like Nana like suggestive content, spicy content,

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Speaker 1: on TikTok at all, can you? No?

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Speaker 2: You have to be really. I've had like six TikTok's removed,

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Speaker 1: Your whole account they banned. What did you post to

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Speaker 2: Well, like what I post now? I just kept creating

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Speaker 1: Now. You can't make money on TikTok, can you.

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Speaker 2: No, not in Australia, which is really annoying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you decided to do only fans. Whereabouts were

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Speaker 1: So again, for people who aren't familiar with Only Fans,

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Speaker 2: So it's essentially a website with a subscription type model

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Speaker 2: I do. And then obviously there's the messaging on there

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Speaker 1: What was the first thing you posted?

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Speaker 2: I think it was just a lingerie photo. I started

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Speaker 2: very mild. I started with lingerie and bikini only and

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Speaker 1: Tell me about that progression, because at first you posted

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Speaker 1: a lot about marketing. You obviously didn't just go into

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Speaker 2: So I knew what my strategy was from the start.

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Speaker 2: No one knew who I was. I was not an influencer,

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Speaker 2: So I knew that I had to have a free

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Speaker 2: But that's what I would do, and that is what

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Speaker 1: How long did you post free content for and how

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Speaker 2: The free content was literally just lingerie and bikini, so

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Speaker 2: I was always covered. But I would post nudes for

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Speaker 2: So if they wanted to see me naked, for example,

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Speaker 1: So when you switched to paid, did everything become behind

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Speaker 2: Everything gets put behind the paywall that's already on the page.

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Speaker 1: Did that make you nervous?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I had about eight thousand subscribers when I

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Speaker 2: And it was a bit stressful for like a month

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Speaker 1: When you say put in the hard work and rebuilt it,

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Speaker 1: how did you do that? Because if you don't, the

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Speaker 1: thing about OnlyFans is that you need to send people

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Speaker 2: Yes, So that was a big part of it. And

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Speaker 2: TikTok was my main source of marketing that I was

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Speaker 1: When you were starting to take the first nude shots

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Speaker 2: I think I do.

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Speaker 2: I did my hair, I did my makeup, had my

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Speaker 2: And I was expecting all my fans to be like,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, okay.

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Speaker 1: These people who were subscribing, who were paying, or these

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting. And were you worried that these nude

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Always sending nudes something that you were comfortable

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Speaker 2: I was very scared about my nudes getting leaked, and

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Speaker 1: Because anyone can take a screenshot of the content that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame it's illegal too, but there's no

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Speaker 1: Does that happen a lot? I imagine it does.

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Speaker 1: How does it make you feel?

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, but I put it out there for

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Speaker 1: When you said you took some time off for a

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Speaker 2: I was so ashamed. I like really went into my

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Speaker 1: You had a group of friends who you say were

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Speaker 1: What do you think was going on for them to

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Speaker 2: I always knew they were very judgmental. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: How come you didn't feel that way? How did you

439
00:20:34,165 --> 00:20:36,005
Speaker 1: escape that level of judgment?

440
00:20:36,405 --> 00:20:38,245
Speaker 2: I think it's because it's the way my mum has

441
00:20:38,325 --> 00:20:41,205
Speaker 2: raised me. She always raised me to be non judgmental

442
00:20:41,285 --> 00:20:43,685
Speaker 2: and to accept everyone for who they are and what

443
00:20:43,725 --> 00:20:46,605
Speaker 2: they do, and that's how I see the world. I

444
00:20:46,605 --> 00:20:49,925
Speaker 2: don't know why someone who is a sex worker is

445
00:20:50,045 --> 00:20:52,885
Speaker 2: less important than someone who works in an office job.

446
00:20:53,205 --> 00:20:54,965
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I'm the same person

447
00:20:55,005 --> 00:20:57,565
Speaker 2: on the inside. And that's what I think. I didn't

448
00:20:57,605 --> 00:20:59,525
Speaker 2: understand with it at the time, was you know, these

449
00:20:59,565 --> 00:21:02,525
Speaker 2: girls have known me for it would have been eighteen years.

450
00:21:02,605 --> 00:21:04,845
Speaker 2: I don't understand why all of a sudden, just because

451
00:21:04,845 --> 00:21:06,645
Speaker 2: of what I was doing for work that changed their

452
00:21:06,805 --> 00:21:09,325
Speaker 2: view of me, Like I hadn't changed on the inside,

453
00:21:09,685 --> 00:21:10,885
Speaker 2: so didn't make sense.

454
00:21:12,925 --> 00:21:15,965
Speaker 1: Up next, I had questions for Annie about the difference

455
00:21:16,005 --> 00:21:21,085
Speaker 1: between when she's having sex as content versus sex for

456
00:21:21,165 --> 00:21:22,765
Speaker 1: her own personal pleasure.

457
00:21:23,165 --> 00:21:25,805
Speaker 2: It's work. People forget that this is a job. So

458
00:21:26,125 --> 00:21:28,765
Speaker 2: we're thinking about the camera angle, where the camera's going

459
00:21:28,805 --> 00:21:32,085
Speaker 2: to be positioned. It's like, you know, okay, what position

460
00:21:32,125 --> 00:21:33,925
Speaker 2: are we doing next? Okay, do you think the subs

461
00:21:33,925 --> 00:21:34,405
Speaker 2: will like this?

462
00:21:35,245 --> 00:21:37,365
Speaker 1: And she also tells me how she finds people to

463
00:21:37,405 --> 00:21:41,245
Speaker 1: have sex with on camera and how her parents found

464
00:21:41,285 --> 00:21:45,685
Speaker 1: out about her new career. Very awkward. Stay with us.

465
00:21:46,965 --> 00:21:50,085
Speaker 1: Were you single during this time while you were reving

466
00:21:50,165 --> 00:21:51,165
Speaker 1: up your only fans?

467
00:21:51,805 --> 00:21:52,005
Speaker 2: Yeah?

468
00:21:52,565 --> 00:21:57,045
Speaker 1: How did commodifying your sexuality change how you felt about

469
00:21:57,085 --> 00:21:59,805
Speaker 1: it in real life? Or didn't it? Like? Was there

470
00:21:59,845 --> 00:22:05,205
Speaker 1: only fans sexual Annie and private life sexual Annie? Or

471
00:22:05,565 --> 00:22:06,445
Speaker 1: was it all just the same?

472
00:22:06,805 --> 00:22:09,325
Speaker 2: No? It's very different. And anyone who is a sex

473
00:22:09,365 --> 00:22:11,165
Speaker 2: work around works in the only fence industry will tell

474
00:22:11,165 --> 00:22:13,525
Speaker 2: you the exact same thing you have, like your work

475
00:22:14,165 --> 00:22:16,845
Speaker 2: sexual you and then you have your home life or

476
00:22:16,885 --> 00:22:20,805
Speaker 2: personal sex life. It's very, very different. Even when I

477
00:22:20,845 --> 00:22:23,645
Speaker 2: film a video with a guy, that experience is so

478
00:22:23,885 --> 00:22:25,965
Speaker 2: different to when i'm even if I was sleeping with

479
00:22:25,965 --> 00:22:28,645
Speaker 2: the exact same person, if we were to sleep together

480
00:22:28,685 --> 00:22:31,725
Speaker 2: off camera in my personal life, it is just so different.

481
00:22:32,125 --> 00:22:34,045
Speaker 1: Tell me exactly how it would be different.

482
00:22:34,365 --> 00:22:37,605
Speaker 2: Well, it's work, Like people forget that this is a job.

483
00:22:37,805 --> 00:22:40,725
Speaker 2: So we're thinking about the camera angle, where the camera's

484
00:22:40,765 --> 00:22:43,965
Speaker 2: going to be positioned. Okay, what position are we doing next? Okay,

485
00:22:44,005 --> 00:22:45,925
Speaker 2: do you think the subs will like this? It's very

486
00:22:46,005 --> 00:22:49,205
Speaker 2: much like you have to think about it, the setup

487
00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:51,405
Speaker 2: and the lighting and all of that. A lot of

488
00:22:51,445 --> 00:22:53,165
Speaker 2: the times you don't kiss either, so that it takes

489
00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:56,405
Speaker 2: away that personal aspect, whereas in my personal life, obviously

490
00:22:56,445 --> 00:22:58,485
Speaker 2: you know you kiss and it's more intimate. There's no

491
00:22:58,565 --> 00:23:01,725
Speaker 2: camera there, so you're not being like hyper aware of that.

492
00:23:01,925 --> 00:23:04,325
Speaker 2: You're just sort of living in the moment. It's more passionate,

493
00:23:04,445 --> 00:23:06,645
Speaker 2: it's just a bit more personal I think.

494
00:23:06,565 --> 00:23:10,125
Speaker 1: When did you start having sex with other people on camera?

495
00:23:10,445 --> 00:23:12,245
Speaker 1: Like all the way along, did you sort of say

496
00:23:12,245 --> 00:23:13,605
Speaker 1: to yourself, I'm going to do this, but I'm not

497
00:23:13,645 --> 00:23:15,005
Speaker 1: going to do that. I'm going to do this, and

498
00:23:15,045 --> 00:23:17,405
Speaker 1: did that line keep moving? Yeah.

499
00:23:17,445 --> 00:23:19,645
Speaker 2: I started with this is just going to be bikini

500
00:23:19,645 --> 00:23:21,925
Speaker 2: and lingerie content and that's it. And then next minute

501
00:23:22,005 --> 00:23:24,325
Speaker 2: was I'll do some nudes, but then that's it, and

502
00:23:24,325 --> 00:23:27,685
Speaker 2: then it became solo content. I did do solo content

503
00:23:27,805 --> 00:23:29,125
Speaker 2: for two years.

504
00:23:29,165 --> 00:23:30,885
Speaker 1: Can you explain what solo content is?

505
00:23:31,165 --> 00:23:34,365
Speaker 2: Yeah, so solo content would just be like self pleasure videos,

506
00:23:34,405 --> 00:23:38,485
Speaker 2: so me measuring myself on camera, everyone else involved. So

507
00:23:38,565 --> 00:23:41,125
Speaker 2: I did that for two years without ever doing what

508
00:23:41,165 --> 00:23:44,085
Speaker 2: we call the collaboration, which is when you collaborate with

509
00:23:44,125 --> 00:23:47,565
Speaker 2: another creator or even a non creator or whatever.

510
00:23:48,165 --> 00:23:50,565
Speaker 1: So the line in the sound was you self pleasured

511
00:23:50,605 --> 00:23:56,445
Speaker 1: for two years and then I imagine that next phase

512
00:23:57,045 --> 00:23:57,845
Speaker 1: was a big step.

513
00:23:58,285 --> 00:24:02,325
Speaker 2: It was huge, and I was like very nervous because yeah,

514
00:24:02,365 --> 00:24:05,005
Speaker 2: it is just so different to sex in your personal life.

515
00:24:05,005 --> 00:24:06,965
Speaker 2: But also I was just nervous to put it out

516
00:24:07,005 --> 00:24:10,525
Speaker 2: there and have people ask questions. And I guess receive

517
00:24:10,645 --> 00:24:12,605
Speaker 2: more judgment for doing that because It is a huge

518
00:24:12,645 --> 00:24:16,885
Speaker 2: step just going from solo play to doing collaborations with

519
00:24:16,925 --> 00:24:19,525
Speaker 2: other people. But I thought, you know, my subscribers have

520
00:24:19,565 --> 00:24:21,725
Speaker 2: been asking it for it for so long, and I

521
00:24:21,765 --> 00:24:24,245
Speaker 2: want to make more money, so you've got to do

522
00:24:24,285 --> 00:24:25,765
Speaker 2: what you got to do. And now I've been doing

523
00:24:25,805 --> 00:24:26,645
Speaker 2: it for two years.

524
00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:30,285
Speaker 1: I want to ask about identity. When you started on

525
00:24:30,285 --> 00:24:34,845
Speaker 1: Only Fans. At first, you were a woman who worked

526
00:24:34,885 --> 00:24:38,685
Speaker 1: in marketing who was posting some images as a side hustle.

527
00:24:39,725 --> 00:24:42,645
Speaker 1: When did you start and did you start seeing yourself

528
00:24:42,645 --> 00:24:45,285
Speaker 1: in a different way, either as a sex worker or

529
00:24:45,325 --> 00:24:48,725
Speaker 1: someone who works in the sex industry or did you

530
00:24:48,805 --> 00:24:51,485
Speaker 1: just and do you still just see yourself as an influencer.

531
00:24:51,925 --> 00:24:55,165
Speaker 1: How has that idea of yourself changed through these different

532
00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:57,685
Speaker 1: kind of levels of your Only Fans content.

533
00:24:58,165 --> 00:25:00,645
Speaker 2: Well, I think when I left my job as a

534
00:25:00,645 --> 00:25:04,645
Speaker 2: marketing manager, I was like, right, well, I'm doing only Fans,

535
00:25:04,685 --> 00:25:06,885
Speaker 2: which makes me a sex worker. And I owned that,

536
00:25:07,045 --> 00:25:08,765
Speaker 2: like there was never a doubt in my mind that

537
00:25:08,805 --> 00:25:10,525
Speaker 2: I was going to be a shamed room barriers to

538
00:25:11,165 --> 00:25:13,645
Speaker 2: say I'm a sex worker, and I stand by that

539
00:25:13,805 --> 00:25:17,365
Speaker 2: to this day. I definitely dabble in influencing, especially like

540
00:25:17,445 --> 00:25:19,565
Speaker 2: two years ago. I don't do it as much anymore,

541
00:25:19,925 --> 00:25:21,965
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean my title is a sex worker.

542
00:25:22,365 --> 00:25:24,245
Speaker 1: When you lost your job, that was because of your

543
00:25:24,285 --> 00:25:26,245
Speaker 1: only fans? Right? How did that go down?

544
00:25:26,605 --> 00:25:28,245
Speaker 2: I'd only started at this new job. I was on

545
00:25:28,325 --> 00:25:30,685
Speaker 2: day five. They told me they'd done all the checks

546
00:25:30,685 --> 00:25:34,325
Speaker 2: and stuff on me beforehand, and I wasn't necessarily hiding

547
00:25:34,365 --> 00:25:36,125
Speaker 2: my only fans because I honestly was at the point

548
00:25:36,125 --> 00:25:37,725
Speaker 2: where I was like, I don't really care if I

549
00:25:37,765 --> 00:25:39,645
Speaker 2: do get fired for doing it, so be it.

550
00:25:40,405 --> 00:25:43,925
Speaker 1: Did you use the same name everywhere I.

551
00:25:43,285 --> 00:25:45,805
Speaker 2: Go by Annie Kate on my only fans?

552
00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:47,965
Speaker 1: I know, because I joined only fans to look for

553
00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:50,285
Speaker 1: you and I had no luck. It was very confused.

554
00:25:51,205 --> 00:25:53,925
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very confusing. But yeah, so I don't

555
00:25:54,005 --> 00:25:56,445
Speaker 2: really know how they found me because I didn't promote

556
00:25:56,445 --> 00:25:58,445
Speaker 2: my only fans anywhere at that time either.

557
00:25:58,645 --> 00:26:01,445
Speaker 1: That must have been like a whistleblower trying to shave you.

558
00:26:01,765 --> 00:26:04,685
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah. Well, on day five I went home

559
00:26:04,685 --> 00:26:06,525
Speaker 2: stick because I've got intimutrioists and I was in a

560
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,485
Speaker 2: lot of pain that day, so I went home, and

561
00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:10,245
Speaker 2: when I got home, I had an email from my

562
00:26:10,325 --> 00:26:13,485
Speaker 2: boss saying that I'd been terminated. And then they listed

563
00:26:13,525 --> 00:26:16,365
Speaker 2: three reasons why, and one of them was that I'd

564
00:26:16,765 --> 00:26:18,845
Speaker 2: lied because earlier in the day they asked me if

565
00:26:18,885 --> 00:26:21,205
Speaker 2: I had any side hustles or side businesses and I

566
00:26:21,245 --> 00:26:25,085
Speaker 2: said no, and then also that I had a website

567
00:26:25,205 --> 00:26:29,005
Speaker 2: containing explicit content and crew language. And then there was

568
00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:30,965
Speaker 2: some other reason that I can't remember.

569
00:26:31,725 --> 00:26:33,645
Speaker 1: Did you push back. No.

570
00:26:34,325 --> 00:26:36,565
Speaker 2: I was upset, but I was upset because I was

571
00:26:36,605 --> 00:26:41,925
Speaker 2: angry that people could be so discriminatory. I was angry

572
00:26:41,925 --> 00:26:44,485
Speaker 2: that they were discriminating against me, But I wasn't actually

573
00:26:44,525 --> 00:26:46,805
Speaker 2: angry that I lost my job because I hated it anyway.

574
00:26:47,405 --> 00:26:49,125
Speaker 2: I really did, and I was only on day five.

575
00:26:49,205 --> 00:26:51,405
Speaker 1: Sorry, I hate it. What was so bad about it?

576
00:26:51,485 --> 00:26:54,805
Speaker 2: Well, I was tucked away in this dark, dingy office

577
00:26:55,045 --> 00:26:58,005
Speaker 2: at the back of the building and I barely spoke

578
00:26:58,045 --> 00:27:01,525
Speaker 2: to anyone, and the shopping center was pretty crap, if

579
00:27:01,525 --> 00:27:04,645
Speaker 2: I'm honest. So I just didn't enjoy it. I did

580
00:27:04,725 --> 00:27:07,405
Speaker 2: enjoy the people I was working with, and I'd actually

581
00:27:07,405 --> 00:27:10,045
Speaker 2: called my best friend the day before crime saying I

582
00:27:10,085 --> 00:27:12,165
Speaker 2: hate this job so much. I just want to do

583
00:27:12,245 --> 00:27:14,765
Speaker 2: only fans full time. And he was like, no, don't

584
00:27:14,805 --> 00:27:16,605
Speaker 2: do it, don't do it. You'll ruin your life.

585
00:27:17,045 --> 00:27:19,525
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so it wasn't him that dobbed you in.

586
00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:23,365
Speaker 2: No, definitely in terms.

587
00:27:23,045 --> 00:27:25,925
Speaker 1: Of you know, you consider yourself as sex worker. You

588
00:27:26,205 --> 00:27:29,525
Speaker 1: are a full time content creator on OnlyFans. Did you

589
00:27:29,525 --> 00:27:31,405
Speaker 1: feel that it was something you had to announce or

590
00:27:31,445 --> 00:27:33,565
Speaker 1: share or did you just think it's no one's business.

591
00:27:33,845 --> 00:27:36,165
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I think it really depended on the person

592
00:27:36,685 --> 00:27:39,205
Speaker 2: still to this day. If it's like a middle aged

593
00:27:39,205 --> 00:27:41,845
Speaker 2: person that I'm literally just meeting very briefly and they're

594
00:27:41,845 --> 00:27:44,245
Speaker 2: asking me what I do for work, I'll say influencer.

595
00:27:44,805 --> 00:27:47,005
Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed of what I do, only because I

596
00:27:47,045 --> 00:27:51,485
Speaker 2: cannot deal with the millions of questions that follow, because

597
00:27:51,525 --> 00:27:53,965
Speaker 2: there's always a million questions and I just answer them

598
00:27:53,965 --> 00:27:55,685
Speaker 2: the same every single time, and I'm honestly a bit

599
00:27:55,725 --> 00:27:56,085
Speaker 2: over it.

600
00:27:56,845 --> 00:27:58,845
Speaker 1: What do people say straight away? What are the questions

601
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,405
Speaker 1: that they just keep asking, just.

602
00:28:00,325 --> 00:28:02,605
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, when did you start that? What

603
00:28:02,685 --> 00:28:04,045
Speaker 2: type of content do you do?

604
00:28:04,565 --> 00:28:04,765
Speaker 1: You know?

605
00:28:04,965 --> 00:28:07,245
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy it? Like how much money do you make?

606
00:28:07,365 --> 00:28:11,125
Speaker 2: You know, Just the same old question. And obviously usually

607
00:28:11,165 --> 00:28:13,205
Speaker 2: when it's older people, they tend to be a bit

608
00:28:13,205 --> 00:28:15,685
Speaker 2: more judgmental, and I tend to be a little bit

609
00:28:15,725 --> 00:28:17,765
Speaker 2: sussy and sometimes a little bit snappy, and if it's

610
00:28:17,805 --> 00:28:20,125
Speaker 2: not this right situation for that, then that's when I

611
00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:21,605
Speaker 2: say I'm an influencer instead.

612
00:28:22,685 --> 00:28:26,245
Speaker 1: So back to the decision to do it with someone else.

613
00:28:26,485 --> 00:28:28,285
Speaker 1: So then how do you decide who to do it

614
00:28:28,325 --> 00:28:30,205
Speaker 1: with and what happens next?

615
00:28:30,925 --> 00:28:34,005
Speaker 2: So I decided that I didn't want to start doing

616
00:28:34,205 --> 00:28:37,765
Speaker 2: content with another creator because I felt very like amateur still,

617
00:28:37,765 --> 00:28:40,205
Speaker 2: and I was kind of intimidated with doing it with

618
00:28:40,285 --> 00:28:42,845
Speaker 2: like a big time male creator. So I decided to

619
00:28:43,085 --> 00:28:45,685
Speaker 2: go on Hinge instead and go on a couple of

620
00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:48,045
Speaker 2: dates with the guy and see if I felt comfortable

621
00:28:48,085 --> 00:28:50,005
Speaker 2: with him and he was the right guy. And I

622
00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:52,725
Speaker 2: managed to find one pretty quickly, and this is when

623
00:28:52,725 --> 00:28:55,605
Speaker 2: I was living up in Brisbane. And yeah, once I

624
00:28:55,605 --> 00:28:57,805
Speaker 2: felt comfortable with him, and he agreed to it all

625
00:28:57,805 --> 00:29:01,725
Speaker 2: and consented to it all and signed all the relevant forms. Yeah,

626
00:29:01,725 --> 00:29:03,165
Speaker 2: we started filming content together.

627
00:29:03,365 --> 00:29:06,325
Speaker 1: Annie, How does that come up in conversation on a date?

628
00:29:07,325 --> 00:29:09,925
Speaker 2: It was in my bio. I've always been open about it.

629
00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:11,525
Speaker 2: I would rather put it out there so on my

630
00:29:11,605 --> 00:29:13,925
Speaker 2: Hinge bio that I do only fans.

631
00:29:14,125 --> 00:29:16,925
Speaker 1: Okay, So he probably did his due diligence before he

632
00:29:16,965 --> 00:29:19,485
Speaker 1: went on the date, knew who you were? Was he

633
00:29:19,565 --> 00:29:21,405
Speaker 1: a subscriber or was he a fan?

634
00:29:22,405 --> 00:29:23,845
Speaker 2: No, he didn't know who I was.

635
00:29:24,965 --> 00:29:27,725
Speaker 1: How are you wary of that? Do you have to

636
00:29:27,725 --> 00:29:31,125
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that in your dating life?

637
00:29:31,805 --> 00:29:35,925
Speaker 2: Yeah? In my personal life when I'm dating it sounds bad,

638
00:29:35,965 --> 00:29:38,605
Speaker 2: But if someone is a subscriber or a fan, I

639
00:29:38,645 --> 00:29:41,085
Speaker 2: sometimes get a little bit scared, just because you never

640
00:29:41,085 --> 00:29:42,045
Speaker 2: know what their intentions.

641
00:29:42,085 --> 00:29:42,245
Speaker 1: Are.

642
00:29:42,485 --> 00:29:45,605
Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, so I do have to be careful

643
00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:45,845
Speaker 2: of that.

644
00:29:46,165 --> 00:29:47,085
Speaker 1: How do you vet that?

645
00:29:47,525 --> 00:29:49,685
Speaker 2: I mean you can't. Sometimes I much with guys who

646
00:29:49,725 --> 00:29:51,565
Speaker 2: pretend to not know who I am, and then they

647
00:29:51,605 --> 00:29:53,325
Speaker 2: do know who I am and they actually subscribe to

648
00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:56,325
Speaker 2: my page and it sort of comes out eventually, or

649
00:29:56,365 --> 00:29:58,605
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at telling. Now there's just a vibe

650
00:29:58,605 --> 00:30:00,685
Speaker 2: that I get that's pretty obvious.

651
00:30:02,085 --> 00:30:06,605
Speaker 1: Once that happened. Does it increase your subscribers? You were saying,

652
00:30:06,605 --> 00:30:09,965
Speaker 1: this is what your subscribers wanted. So do they pay

653
00:30:10,045 --> 00:30:13,565
Speaker 1: more to see what they've asked for? Or is it

654
00:30:13,725 --> 00:30:15,645
Speaker 1: just you have to keep giving them what they ask

655
00:30:15,725 --> 00:30:19,165
Speaker 1: for to keep them subscribing month after month? No?

656
00:30:19,325 --> 00:30:21,285
Speaker 2: So I yeah, the first time I did, we call

657
00:30:21,325 --> 00:30:24,165
Speaker 2: them a BEG, which is like code for boy girl video.

658
00:30:25,285 --> 00:30:27,525
Speaker 2: I like released it for like one hundred dollars, like

659
00:30:27,565 --> 00:30:29,525
Speaker 2: I charged super high because they've been asking for it

660
00:30:29,565 --> 00:30:32,445
Speaker 2: for so long that I was like, they're gonna pay

661
00:30:32,445 --> 00:30:35,085
Speaker 2: for this. And then eventually over time, obviously I've decreased

662
00:30:35,085 --> 00:30:36,605
Speaker 2: the price a little bit. Now I sell it for

663
00:30:36,645 --> 00:30:40,925
Speaker 2: like thirty five dollars USD. But yeah, like you do

664
00:30:41,045 --> 00:30:43,925
Speaker 2: have to be consistent with it, I think in order

665
00:30:43,965 --> 00:30:46,245
Speaker 2: to be able to keep your subscribers.

666
00:30:46,405 --> 00:30:49,245
Speaker 1: How long is that video that you sell? For example?

667
00:30:49,445 --> 00:30:52,685
Speaker 2: It depends. Sometimes it's ten minutes, sometimes it's thirty minutes.

668
00:30:53,525 --> 00:30:57,605
Speaker 1: And do you edit it? Yeah, you edit it yourself.

669
00:30:58,205 --> 00:31:02,365
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that like editing my own sex tape? Yes,

670
00:31:03,885 --> 00:31:07,445
Speaker 2: it's interesting because again, like you know, I might catch

671
00:31:07,485 --> 00:31:10,325
Speaker 2: myself at a weird angle and I'm very self critical,

672
00:31:10,405 --> 00:31:12,885
Speaker 2: or maybe I say something stupid in the video. I'm like,

673
00:31:12,925 --> 00:31:15,645
Speaker 2: oh why did I say that? Or it's kind of weird,

674
00:31:15,845 --> 00:31:17,885
Speaker 2: but I mean it's part of the job. Do you

675
00:31:17,965 --> 00:31:20,725
Speaker 2: use filters on my videos?

676
00:31:20,765 --> 00:31:23,645
Speaker 1: No? Are there filters that you can use?

677
00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:26,405
Speaker 2: No, it's funny, I don't think so.

678
00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:29,925
Speaker 1: They're like a Brazilian bikini wax filter.

679
00:31:31,285 --> 00:31:31,925
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

680
00:31:33,045 --> 00:31:36,045
Speaker 1: And so what about your parents? Tell me about them?

681
00:31:36,925 --> 00:31:41,125
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, interesting stories, both of those. So when I

682
00:31:41,165 --> 00:31:43,525
Speaker 2: got fired for doing only offends, actually I didn't tell

683
00:31:43,565 --> 00:31:46,245
Speaker 2: my mom. She thought I was working at this job

684
00:31:46,285 --> 00:31:48,725
Speaker 2: for like four months after i'd been fired, because I

685
00:31:48,765 --> 00:31:51,125
Speaker 2: was trying to work up the courage. I think what

686
00:31:51,165 --> 00:31:53,005
Speaker 2: I wanted first was to have a bit of a resume,

687
00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:55,325
Speaker 2: to be like, mom, look look how much money I'm making.

688
00:31:55,365 --> 00:31:58,005
Speaker 2: Look what I've accomplished since Like, I wanted to have

689
00:31:58,045 --> 00:31:58,565
Speaker 2: that before.

690
00:31:58,605 --> 00:32:01,405
Speaker 1: I told her, when you say a resume, you wanted

691
00:32:01,445 --> 00:32:05,965
Speaker 1: to have proof that financially. It was a good idea,

692
00:32:06,085 --> 00:32:08,885
Speaker 1: not like, look at all these videos that I've made.

693
00:32:09,485 --> 00:32:11,845
Speaker 1: Here's here's a selection of my work.

694
00:32:13,525 --> 00:32:15,565
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, I wanted her to see that I was

695
00:32:15,605 --> 00:32:18,605
Speaker 2: going to be financially okay, Which is funny because I

696
00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,605
Speaker 2: was about to tell her. I was probably like one

697
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,445
Speaker 2: week off telling her. I was figuring out what I

698
00:32:22,485 --> 00:32:26,645
Speaker 2: was going to say, and seven News posted a media

699
00:32:26,685 --> 00:32:29,485
Speaker 2: release arose on Facebook and it was a big picture

700
00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:33,205
Speaker 2: of me OnlyFans model gets fired or something like that.

701
00:32:33,365 --> 00:32:35,765
Speaker 2: And my mum's seen it while scrolling on Facebook, and

702
00:32:35,805 --> 00:32:39,005
Speaker 2: she goes, that's my daughter, Like, what's she doing there?

703
00:32:39,045 --> 00:32:40,245
Speaker 2: And obviously she read the article.

704
00:32:40,445 --> 00:32:42,485
Speaker 1: So you told that story on TikTok and they just

705
00:32:42,525 --> 00:32:43,045
Speaker 1: picked it up.

706
00:32:44,165 --> 00:32:45,405
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, that's right.

707
00:32:45,485 --> 00:32:45,925
Speaker 1: Yeah.

708
00:32:46,285 --> 00:32:49,205
Speaker 2: Mom didn't speak to me for two weeks, and eventually

709
00:32:49,805 --> 00:32:53,245
Speaker 2: she took my phone call and I said, Okay, what

710
00:32:53,285 --> 00:32:54,885
Speaker 2: are your worries? What are you worried about? She was

711
00:32:54,885 --> 00:32:56,845
Speaker 2: worried about stalkers. She was worried about what I'm going

712
00:32:56,925 --> 00:32:58,925
Speaker 2: to do in five years, or what's going to happen

713
00:32:58,965 --> 00:33:01,485
Speaker 2: when the money drives up, or what's my future plan?

714
00:33:01,605 --> 00:33:04,005
Speaker 2: How am I going to find a partner and all

715
00:33:04,005 --> 00:33:05,445
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. What am I going to tell

716
00:33:05,445 --> 00:33:06,885
Speaker 2: my kids when I have them? And I had an

717
00:33:06,885 --> 00:33:10,365
Speaker 2: answer for literally every single thing that she brought up,

718
00:33:10,605 --> 00:33:13,125
Speaker 2: and once we had that phone call, ever since then,

719
00:33:13,165 --> 00:33:15,005
Speaker 2: she's been one hundred percent supportive.

720
00:33:15,405 --> 00:33:17,925
Speaker 1: I suppose as a parent. Was she worried that you

721
00:33:17,965 --> 00:33:21,165
Speaker 1: didn't understand the longer term consequences of what you were doing?

722
00:33:21,805 --> 00:33:23,885
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I explained to her. I was like, Mum,

723
00:33:23,885 --> 00:33:25,845
Speaker 2: you need to understand I've been thinking about this for years,

724
00:33:25,925 --> 00:33:29,725
Speaker 2: like I have thought about every possible pro and con

725
00:33:29,805 --> 00:33:32,805
Speaker 2: and I've waited all up, and I know that this

726
00:33:32,845 --> 00:33:33,805
Speaker 2: is what I meant to do.

727
00:33:34,725 --> 00:33:36,685
Speaker 1: What have you seen in the industry, the sort of

728
00:33:36,685 --> 00:33:41,765
Speaker 1: the downsides? Because you're obviously very successful, you've got a

729
00:33:41,885 --> 00:33:44,565
Speaker 1: really clear head on your shoulders. You know exactly what

730
00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:47,605
Speaker 1: you're doing and what you're not doing. Have you seen

731
00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:52,005
Speaker 1: some pitfalls and some traps that you've specifically tried to avoid.

732
00:33:52,605 --> 00:33:55,565
Speaker 2: I think I started at a time when it was

733
00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:58,925
Speaker 2: very easy to be successful quickly, obviously not to the

734
00:33:58,925 --> 00:34:01,325
Speaker 2: same degree that I am now. What I see a

735
00:34:01,365 --> 00:34:04,245
Speaker 2: lot these days is these girls thinking that they're going

736
00:34:04,285 --> 00:34:07,365
Speaker 2: to create an account and become millionaires overnight, and that

737
00:34:07,485 --> 00:34:10,045
Speaker 2: is not it. Like, you have to work so hard

738
00:34:10,085 --> 00:34:14,125
Speaker 2: to get followers, to get subscribers, to make sure your videos,

739
00:34:14,205 --> 00:34:17,085
Speaker 2: like your social media videos, get seen, and really make

740
00:34:17,125 --> 00:34:19,005
Speaker 2: a name and a brand for yourself. It is such

741
00:34:19,005 --> 00:34:21,885
Speaker 2: hard work, and people really don't realize that. So I've

742
00:34:21,925 --> 00:34:24,205
Speaker 2: seen a lot of girls start an account having this

743
00:34:24,325 --> 00:34:26,965
Speaker 2: idea in their head, and then you know, realizing, wait

744
00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:28,725
Speaker 2: a second, is actually so much harder than I thought.

745
00:34:29,365 --> 00:34:31,565
Speaker 2: This is too much work, I'm not being successful, And

746
00:34:31,605 --> 00:34:33,165
Speaker 2: they try and go back to a job and they

747
00:34:33,165 --> 00:34:36,885
Speaker 2: can't because they've gotten enough coverage or enough media coverage

748
00:34:36,925 --> 00:34:40,085
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know that no one will take them back.

749
00:34:40,245 --> 00:34:42,285
Speaker 2: So that's something I see a lot that's really sad.

750
00:34:42,845 --> 00:34:45,445
Speaker 1: You've said that it's been the news stories that have

751
00:34:45,565 --> 00:34:49,045
Speaker 1: really been the mainstream media stories, the Kyle and Jackie Oh,

752
00:34:49,165 --> 00:34:53,445
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, those kinds of stories that have really

753
00:34:55,805 --> 00:34:59,285
Speaker 1: put a rocket up under your success, right, because without

754
00:34:59,325 --> 00:35:00,965
Speaker 1: that would you have just sort of ticked along.

755
00:35:02,205 --> 00:35:04,485
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was obviously doing well for myself. To

756
00:35:04,485 --> 00:35:07,805
Speaker 2: put it into like numerical, I don't know. Yeah, before

757
00:35:07,925 --> 00:35:09,605
Speaker 2: all of the success, I think I was in like

758
00:35:09,645 --> 00:35:13,525
Speaker 2: the top zero point eight percent on only fans and

759
00:35:13,565 --> 00:35:16,205
Speaker 2: now I'm zero point zero two percent. So like that

760
00:35:16,405 --> 00:35:18,045
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like much of a jump. That is

761
00:35:18,085 --> 00:35:19,005
Speaker 2: like a huge leap.

762
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:21,645
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're pretty much the top of the tree now.

763
00:35:22,085 --> 00:35:24,445
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only the next level up is zero point

764
00:35:24,565 --> 00:35:26,725
Speaker 2: zero one, which is like your Anna Pols and your

765
00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:28,525
Speaker 2: Mikayla Tester type vibe.

766
00:35:28,525 --> 00:35:30,045
Speaker 1: And what do they do that's different to you?

767
00:35:30,605 --> 00:35:35,005
Speaker 2: Well, they just have a huge, completely loyal international following

768
00:35:35,125 --> 00:35:38,645
Speaker 2: that is like obsessed with them as people. They have

769
00:35:38,725 --> 00:35:41,405
Speaker 2: a lot of female fans as well, which is hard

770
00:35:41,405 --> 00:35:42,205
Speaker 2: to tap into.

771
00:35:42,445 --> 00:35:43,965
Speaker 1: Is their content as graphic as yours.

772
00:35:44,765 --> 00:35:46,805
Speaker 2: No, I've subscribed to both of them, and I know

773
00:35:46,925 --> 00:35:49,725
Speaker 2: Mikayla does, but Anna not so much.

774
00:35:50,445 --> 00:35:52,485
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, firstly, just about your father.

775
00:35:52,925 --> 00:35:55,965
Speaker 1: You're and the Daily Mail turning up on his doorstep.

776
00:35:56,285 --> 00:35:57,165
Speaker 1: How did that roll?

777
00:35:57,765 --> 00:35:59,965
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well that was also not the best way for

778
00:36:00,005 --> 00:36:02,805
Speaker 2: my parents to find out what I do. I sort

779
00:36:02,805 --> 00:36:05,845
Speaker 2: of left my dad in the dark for a long time.

780
00:36:06,045 --> 00:36:07,965
Speaker 2: He didn't know what I did for work. He knew

781
00:36:07,965 --> 00:36:10,245
Speaker 2: that I wasn't doing my job anymore, but he thought

782
00:36:10,285 --> 00:36:13,085
Speaker 2: I was just doing influencing and stuff full time. Just

783
00:36:13,365 --> 00:36:16,645
Speaker 2: because I don't know. He was my dad and he's

784
00:36:16,645 --> 00:36:19,485
Speaker 2: a lot older, he didn't really understand things, and I

785
00:36:19,485 --> 00:36:21,405
Speaker 2: don't know. I just was a bit unsure of how

786
00:36:21,405 --> 00:36:24,125
Speaker 2: he would react, and he's sort of off social media

787
00:36:24,165 --> 00:36:25,805
Speaker 2: a bit, so I didn't think he would ever find out,

788
00:36:25,845 --> 00:36:29,365
Speaker 2: And honestly, he didn't until the Daily Mail showed up

789
00:36:29,365 --> 00:36:32,645
Speaker 2: at his door in October of last year asking for

790
00:36:33,125 --> 00:36:36,885
Speaker 2: comments on his sex addicts daughter. I think they said

791
00:36:36,925 --> 00:36:40,245
Speaker 2: to him, and he called me up and was like,

792
00:36:40,445 --> 00:36:42,245
Speaker 2: why did I just have the Daily Mail knocking on

793
00:36:42,285 --> 00:36:44,445
Speaker 2: my door saying that my daughter is a sex maniac?

794
00:36:44,525 --> 00:36:47,885
Speaker 2: What is going on, and my heart just sunk and

795
00:36:47,925 --> 00:36:50,285
Speaker 2: I felt so sick, and I just wanted to cry

796
00:36:50,325 --> 00:36:52,405
Speaker 2: because I felt so bad that they had invaded his

797
00:36:52,445 --> 00:36:55,245
Speaker 2: privacy like that. Worst of all, he didn't know what

798
00:36:55,285 --> 00:36:57,205
Speaker 2: they were talking about, and then they took that story

799
00:36:57,205 --> 00:36:59,845
Speaker 2: and ran with it, and that, yeah, that they told

800
00:36:59,885 --> 00:37:02,125
Speaker 2: him rather than me, So that would have been really

801
00:37:02,125 --> 00:37:04,045
Speaker 2: hard for him. But we had a chat on the phone,

802
00:37:04,085 --> 00:37:06,925
Speaker 2: and like my mum, he was just super supportive and

803
00:37:07,565 --> 00:37:10,365
Speaker 2: he understands it all. And I think once he knew

804
00:37:10,405 --> 00:37:12,445
Speaker 2: how much money I was earning a month, he understood

805
00:37:12,445 --> 00:37:13,045
Speaker 2: it a bit more.

806
00:37:14,285 --> 00:37:16,725
Speaker 1: Can you explain the difference between if there is indeed

807
00:37:16,725 --> 00:37:20,205
Speaker 1: one only fans porn and sex work.

808
00:37:21,525 --> 00:37:24,245
Speaker 2: Sex work's quite broad. It could be anything from stripping

809
00:37:24,365 --> 00:37:28,445
Speaker 2: to escorting, to only fans anything in that sort of

810
00:37:28,525 --> 00:37:31,725
Speaker 2: those sort of areas. Only fans itself is when you're

811
00:37:31,925 --> 00:37:35,045
Speaker 2: just online like a digital creator, which is what I am.

812
00:37:35,645 --> 00:37:37,925
Speaker 2: I guess you could call what I do porn as well.

813
00:37:38,325 --> 00:37:41,125
Speaker 2: But obviously there's more mainstream porn, which is like on

814
00:37:41,165 --> 00:37:44,005
Speaker 2: those sites like porn Harbor and all of that, which

815
00:37:44,085 --> 00:37:47,845
Speaker 2: is free. I don't do that. It's very different business

816
00:37:47,885 --> 00:37:49,445
Speaker 2: model too. Only fans.

817
00:37:50,125 --> 00:37:52,485
Speaker 1: Can you explain the difference in the business model, because

818
00:37:53,245 --> 00:37:56,005
Speaker 1: your life and what you describe is very different to

819
00:37:56,125 --> 00:37:58,805
Speaker 1: what people would think of as a traditional porn staff.

820
00:37:59,285 --> 00:38:01,085
Speaker 2: I can't speak too much because I haven't looked into

821
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:03,645
Speaker 2: the porn harb and all of that too much. But

822
00:38:03,805 --> 00:38:07,125
Speaker 2: I think I am my own boss. I work for myself.

823
00:38:07,565 --> 00:38:10,885
Speaker 2: I charge a price, and it is only my content

824
00:38:10,965 --> 00:38:14,205
Speaker 2: being featured on that page. Whereas on porn Hub there

825
00:38:14,285 --> 00:38:16,325
Speaker 2: is amateur stuff, but a lot of it is like

826
00:38:16,405 --> 00:38:19,445
Speaker 2: overly produced. They have like a big production crew. You're

827
00:38:19,445 --> 00:38:21,525
Speaker 2: not necessarily working for yourself. You might be getting a

828
00:38:21,565 --> 00:38:24,365
Speaker 2: cut as a porn star as opposed to me, who

829
00:38:24,565 --> 00:38:26,445
Speaker 2: I get to keep one hundred percent of my money.

830
00:38:26,925 --> 00:38:30,965
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's those are like the major differences. But

831
00:38:31,085 --> 00:38:33,325
Speaker 2: if I wanted to, I could post my videos to

832
00:38:33,365 --> 00:38:36,005
Speaker 2: porn Hub as well, but I personally choose not to

833
00:38:36,005 --> 00:38:38,125
Speaker 2: do that because I feel like it's taking away revenue

834
00:38:38,165 --> 00:38:39,805
Speaker 2: from my only fans.

835
00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:43,125
Speaker 1: In terms of the slippery slope, I imagine that you're

836
00:38:43,165 --> 00:38:46,485
Speaker 1: offered more and more money to do more and more

837
00:38:46,605 --> 00:38:47,685
Speaker 1: extreme things.

838
00:38:47,765 --> 00:38:52,005
Speaker 2: Is that is that right on only fans? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

839
00:38:52,045 --> 00:38:54,365
Speaker 2: I've been offered quite a lot of money to do

840
00:38:54,405 --> 00:38:58,805
Speaker 2: things that I'm not comfortable doing, like what, oh, like

841
00:38:58,885 --> 00:39:02,045
Speaker 2: a lot of custom videos, which is when a subscriber

842
00:39:02,085 --> 00:39:04,165
Speaker 2: will say, Hey, I want you to make these videos

843
00:39:04,245 --> 00:39:06,885
Speaker 2: personally for me, and this is what I want you

844
00:39:06,925 --> 00:39:10,005
Speaker 2: to do, and I'm not comfortable doing it. It might

845
00:39:10,085 --> 00:39:14,685
Speaker 2: have something to do with like BDSM or urinating or

846
00:39:15,445 --> 00:39:18,445
Speaker 2: defecating that kind of thing, So that's not for me,

847
00:39:18,645 --> 00:39:20,845
Speaker 2: and that's where I definitely draw the line.

848
00:39:21,045 --> 00:39:24,325
Speaker 1: Do people also say I'll pay you X amount of

849
00:39:24,325 --> 00:39:25,525
Speaker 1: money if you'll have sex with me.

850
00:39:26,525 --> 00:39:29,925
Speaker 2: Yep, all the time. And it's very annoying because if

851
00:39:29,965 --> 00:39:32,085
Speaker 2: I was to go back and say yes, let's do it,

852
00:39:32,125 --> 00:39:36,125
Speaker 2: which I never would, only fans would ban me from

853
00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:39,885
Speaker 2: the site really because you're not allowed to organize meetups

854
00:39:39,925 --> 00:39:41,485
Speaker 2: and you're not allowed to organize that type of thing,

855
00:39:41,525 --> 00:39:45,445
Speaker 2: which makes sense because obviously there's like safety reasons and

856
00:39:45,565 --> 00:39:45,925
Speaker 2: all of.

857
00:39:45,885 --> 00:39:51,205
Speaker 1: That, so they can't be held liable. Yeah, still to come.

858
00:39:51,645 --> 00:39:54,365
Speaker 1: I asked the question Annie, how much money do you make?

859
00:39:54,725 --> 00:39:57,525
Speaker 1: She was very open, very honest about exactly how much

860
00:39:57,565 --> 00:39:59,965
Speaker 1: she makes per month, and it's a lot.

861
00:40:00,245 --> 00:40:03,925
Speaker 2: I have bought two properties and I have saved quite

862
00:40:03,925 --> 00:40:07,845
Speaker 2: a bit of money for travel this year, and I

863
00:40:07,885 --> 00:40:11,085
Speaker 2: am now currently trying to off both of those mortgages

864
00:40:11,165 --> 00:40:14,685
Speaker 2: on those properties, hopefully in the next year if I can.

865
00:40:16,325 --> 00:40:18,445
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about marketing. Your business brain

866
00:40:18,565 --> 00:40:20,165
Speaker 1: is obviously still whirring along.

867
00:40:21,285 --> 00:40:21,605
Speaker 2: Yeah.

868
00:40:21,805 --> 00:40:24,765
Speaker 1: Your content, at first I've heard you say, was kind

869
00:40:24,805 --> 00:40:27,765
Speaker 1: of girl next Door. Everybody has to have an angle

870
00:40:28,045 --> 00:40:32,925
Speaker 1: on OnlyFans. I imagine Girl next Door is fairly common,

871
00:40:33,005 --> 00:40:39,285
Speaker 1: fairly easy to do, fairly you know, basic entry level.

872
00:40:39,685 --> 00:40:42,125
Speaker 1: When did you come up with the idea of Australia's

873
00:40:42,165 --> 00:40:44,565
Speaker 1: most promiscuous or sexually active woman.

874
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Speaker 2: It was probably like early or not early early to

875
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Speaker 2: mid last year, so twenty twenty three. And it didn't

876
00:40:52,005 --> 00:40:55,285
Speaker 2: start with me thinking, oh well, I'm just gonna, you know,

877
00:40:55,405 --> 00:40:58,405
Speaker 2: start making these crazy videos. It sort of happened slowly.

878
00:40:58,485 --> 00:41:00,605
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this happened to me, I'll share

879
00:41:00,645 --> 00:41:04,005
Speaker 2: it on TikTok, and then that video just went super

880
00:41:04,085 --> 00:41:06,805
Speaker 2: viral and I was like, okay, actually, you know what happened.

881
00:41:06,845 --> 00:41:08,085
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to go back to my

882
00:41:08,165 --> 00:41:11,165
Speaker 2: old videos they used to make, which were more storytelling

883
00:41:11,245 --> 00:41:13,365
Speaker 2: type vibes because they used to do really well and

884
00:41:13,485 --> 00:41:15,325
Speaker 2: first traps and all of that just don't cutting it

885
00:41:15,365 --> 00:41:18,125
Speaker 2: on TikTok anymore. So yeah, I just thought, oh, well,

886
00:41:18,125 --> 00:41:19,365
Speaker 2: this happened to me the other day, I'll share that

887
00:41:19,445 --> 00:41:21,605
Speaker 2: on TikTok. That went viral. I thought, oh, I'll do

888
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:23,645
Speaker 2: it again, and then that went viral and it kind

889
00:41:23,645 --> 00:41:26,605
Speaker 2: of just kept snowballing until, like you know, Carl and

890
00:41:26,685 --> 00:41:28,845
Speaker 2: Jackie O were asking me to come on their show,

891
00:41:28,885 --> 00:41:31,125
Speaker 2: and things just sort of went from there.

892
00:41:32,045 --> 00:41:35,205
Speaker 1: What sort of stories were you telling just about sex?

893
00:41:35,965 --> 00:41:39,045
Speaker 2: Yeah, my sexual experiences. Yeah.

894
00:41:39,085 --> 00:41:41,805
Speaker 1: And what made Kyle and Jackie O's producer pick up

895
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Speaker 1: the phone.

896
00:41:42,685 --> 00:41:44,605
Speaker 2: I think she just saw me on TikTok and thought,

897
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Speaker 2: we love how sex positive this girl is. And you know,

898
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Speaker 2: I've never heard of someone have this kind of goal

899
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Speaker 2: before or not. I don't even think I had a

900
00:41:51,565 --> 00:41:54,045
Speaker 2: goal at that point. She just saw all the videos

901
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:56,085
Speaker 2: I'd been making and then called me up and was like,

902
00:41:56,165 --> 00:41:58,805
Speaker 2: we absolutely loved that. We're very sex positive at Kyl

903
00:41:58,845 --> 00:42:01,085
Speaker 2: and Jackieyo, and we want to hear more about it.

904
00:42:01,125 --> 00:42:03,245
Speaker 2: And then I went on their show and that's when

905
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that I'd slept with three hundred people in

906
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Speaker 2: a year, and that's where the title came from.

907
00:42:08,405 --> 00:42:11,005
Speaker 1: Did you give yourself that title or was that a

908
00:42:11,085 --> 00:42:14,925
Speaker 1: Daily Mail creation or a creation that was a.

909
00:42:15,045 --> 00:42:17,765
Speaker 2: Carl and Jackie Oe creation. They came up with that

910
00:42:17,805 --> 00:42:19,885
Speaker 2: title and they approved it with me. First, they said,

911
00:42:19,885 --> 00:42:21,485
Speaker 2: are you okay for us to call you this? And

912
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Speaker 2: I was like, go for your life?

913
00:42:24,925 --> 00:42:26,965
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had to tell anybody?

914
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Speaker 2: I called my mom before I did the interview to

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Speaker 2: tell her, Hey, Mom, just so you know this is

916
00:42:34,445 --> 00:42:38,085
Speaker 2: coming out. We spoke about it beforehand and obviously yeah,

917
00:42:38,125 --> 00:42:40,405
Speaker 2: she was like, do what you gonna do? That's that's fine.

918
00:42:41,605 --> 00:42:42,165
Speaker 1: What happened?

919
00:42:42,165 --> 00:42:42,325
Speaker 2: Then?

920
00:42:42,525 --> 00:42:46,445
Speaker 1: How did what was your OnlyFans subscriber account numbers before?

921
00:42:46,765 --> 00:42:49,165
Speaker 1: And then what was the trajectory afterwards?

922
00:42:49,805 --> 00:42:53,325
Speaker 2: I think my subscriber account before was like a thousand

923
00:42:53,965 --> 00:42:55,805
Speaker 2: or maybe twelve hundred actually.

924
00:42:55,765 --> 00:42:57,805
Speaker 1: Paying how much? How much were they all paying?

925
00:42:58,165 --> 00:43:02,805
Speaker 2: Fifteen dollars a month? And then I shot to twelve

926
00:43:02,845 --> 00:43:08,645
Speaker 2: thousand subscribers, so big jump and also fifteen dollars a month.

927
00:43:10,165 --> 00:43:15,085
Speaker 1: So going from being famous on OnlyFans to being mainstream visible.

928
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Speaker 1: The Daily Mail Loved You, does lots of stories about you,

929
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Speaker 1: Australia's most I just thought the word promiscuous was such

930
00:43:23,725 --> 00:43:30,085
Speaker 1: a such a bridgeton word, you're so promiscuous that obviously

931
00:43:30,445 --> 00:43:33,285
Speaker 1: became something that worked. At what point did you hire

932
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Speaker 1: a publicist.

933
00:43:34,045 --> 00:43:38,125
Speaker 2: In October last year? My publicist is actually she was

934
00:43:38,845 --> 00:43:41,805
Speaker 2: in the industry herself and started to create her own

935
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Speaker 2: PR agency Million Billion, And as soon as I saw

936
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Speaker 2: she created an agency, I thought, I want to join.

937
00:43:47,885 --> 00:43:50,365
Speaker 2: I've seen how much publicity she gets for herself or

938
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Speaker 2: had gotten for herself, and I want to keep the

939
00:43:52,765 --> 00:43:54,805
Speaker 2: ball rolling. I want to keep on top of this.

940
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Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm still making this amount

941
00:43:56,845 --> 00:43:58,885
Speaker 2: of money that I am now. Yeah, that's sort of

942
00:43:58,885 --> 00:44:00,845
Speaker 2: when I hired her. I think it was, yeah, like October,

943
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Speaker 2: and she's been great.

944
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Speaker 1: How much money are you making anywhere.

945
00:44:04,725 --> 00:44:07,845
Speaker 2: From like two hundred to two hundred and fifty K

946
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Speaker 2: a month?

947
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Speaker 1: And what do you do with that money?

948
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Speaker 2: I have bought two properties and I have saved quite

949
00:44:16,925 --> 00:44:20,805
Speaker 2: a bit of money for travel this year, and I

950
00:44:20,845 --> 00:44:23,365
Speaker 2: am now currently trying to pay off both of those

951
00:44:23,525 --> 00:44:27,285
Speaker 2: mortgages on those properties, hopefully in the next year if

952
00:44:27,285 --> 00:44:27,645
Speaker 2: I can.

953
00:44:27,925 --> 00:44:31,165
Speaker 1: When you met with a publicist, did you say what

954
00:44:31,205 --> 00:44:32,885
Speaker 1: do you want to achieve? What are your goals?

955
00:44:33,765 --> 00:44:35,405
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we had a big chat about what my

956
00:44:35,445 --> 00:44:37,525
Speaker 2: goals were, and yeah, where I wanted to be and

957
00:44:37,565 --> 00:44:38,245
Speaker 2: what I wanted.

958
00:44:38,045 --> 00:44:39,445
Speaker 1: To do, and what are you goals?

959
00:44:40,445 --> 00:44:42,685
Speaker 2: I just want to keep getting bigger and bigger and

960
00:44:42,845 --> 00:44:45,005
Speaker 2: be able to, I guess, make a name for myself

961
00:44:45,045 --> 00:44:46,725
Speaker 2: one day. I would love to own my own business.

962
00:44:46,925 --> 00:44:48,645
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to have my own business, but I

963
00:44:48,685 --> 00:44:50,325
Speaker 2: want to make sure I have enough of a reach

964
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Speaker 2: to be able to do that successfully. I would love

965
00:44:53,005 --> 00:44:55,525
Speaker 2: to do a bit of like a bit more mainstream media.

966
00:44:55,805 --> 00:44:58,565
Speaker 2: I have my own podcast, Double Dose, that I absolutely

967
00:44:58,645 --> 00:45:02,085
Speaker 2: love doing, so, you know, doing stuff like radio stuff.

968
00:45:02,085 --> 00:45:03,165
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love.

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00:45:03,565 --> 00:45:06,085
Speaker 1: When you say you start your own business, I mean

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Speaker 1: you have your own business now right, You are your

971
00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:12,805
Speaker 1: your own business. Do you mean like sell products? Yes, exactly,

972
00:45:13,245 --> 00:45:15,365
Speaker 1: like what kinds of products? Well.

973
00:45:15,365 --> 00:45:18,165
Speaker 2: I used to own a swimwear brand that i'd started

974
00:45:18,165 --> 00:45:21,165
Speaker 2: myself for myself twenty seventeen and I did that for

975
00:45:21,205 --> 00:45:23,245
Speaker 2: three years and I loved it, but I had to

976
00:45:23,285 --> 00:45:25,725
Speaker 2: stop because I started working in marketing full time and

977
00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:27,965
Speaker 2: I just didn't have the time to keep doing it.

978
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Speaker 2: So I would love to do something like that again,

979
00:45:30,245 --> 00:45:33,525
Speaker 2: whether it be you know, clothing, swimwear, anything like that.

980
00:45:33,925 --> 00:45:37,045
Speaker 1: When you said you're busy and you don't have much time.

981
00:45:38,085 --> 00:45:40,085
Speaker 1: What does a day look like? How much of a

982
00:45:40,165 --> 00:45:43,165
Speaker 1: day is spent creating content? And how much a visit

983
00:45:43,325 --> 00:45:43,925
Speaker 1: on admin?

984
00:45:45,605 --> 00:45:49,485
Speaker 2: Most of my life is admin media traveling, Like I

985
00:45:49,525 --> 00:45:52,125
Speaker 2: do a lot of traveling back and forth from like Melbourne,

986
00:45:52,285 --> 00:45:54,165
Speaker 2: gold Cross, I mean, I mean Adelaide at the moment.

987
00:45:54,285 --> 00:45:55,645
Speaker 1: Why do you have to travel?

988
00:45:55,965 --> 00:45:57,965
Speaker 2: Well, A lot of the time I do collabs in

989
00:45:58,005 --> 00:46:01,965
Speaker 2: different states. I also have family and friends in different

990
00:46:01,965 --> 00:46:04,485
Speaker 2: states as well, so trying to spend my time with

991
00:46:04,525 --> 00:46:05,205
Speaker 2: them as well.

992
00:46:06,045 --> 00:46:08,365
Speaker 1: And how to collabse work collabs.

993
00:46:09,445 --> 00:46:11,525
Speaker 2: I guess like if you see a creator online that

994
00:46:11,965 --> 00:46:14,405
Speaker 2: you think might look good with you in a video,

995
00:46:14,645 --> 00:46:17,445
Speaker 2: or maybe you've gotten requests on your only fans saying hey,

996
00:46:17,485 --> 00:46:19,445
Speaker 2: I really want you to work with this creator, and

997
00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:22,165
Speaker 2: you get multiple requests for it, then you go, okay, cool,

998
00:46:22,205 --> 00:46:24,205
Speaker 2: Well let's do it because it will obviously sell well.

999
00:46:24,485 --> 00:46:26,285
Speaker 2: And that's when I might fly down to Melbourne or

1000
00:46:26,405 --> 00:46:27,885
Speaker 2: fly somewhere to do a collaboration.

1001
00:46:29,285 --> 00:46:32,525
Speaker 1: Friends. That was not the end of my conversation with Annie.

1002
00:46:32,725 --> 00:46:35,485
Speaker 1: I had more questions. We kept the microphones going to

1003
00:46:35,565 --> 00:46:38,365
Speaker 1: record some extra content for our subscribers.

1004
00:46:39,045 --> 00:46:40,885
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think also there was an element of

1005
00:46:41,005 --> 00:46:42,725
Speaker 2: you know, I've got a goal and I want to

1006
00:46:42,765 --> 00:46:46,805
Speaker 2: achieve it. Once all the headlines came out, I was like, Okay, well,

1007
00:46:46,805 --> 00:46:49,445
Speaker 2: what can I do next? It's gonna up that. So yeah,

1008
00:46:49,445 --> 00:46:51,805
Speaker 2: it kind of became a challenge for me. Men like

1009
00:46:51,925 --> 00:46:56,445
Speaker 2: to see you with a dildo, maybe cowgirl, reverse cowgirl,

1010
00:46:56,445 --> 00:46:58,205
Speaker 2: that type of thing, or doggie or.

1011
00:46:58,205 --> 00:46:59,965
Speaker 1: By yourself reverse cowgirl.

1012
00:47:00,645 --> 00:47:04,605
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that type of thing. I offer the girlfriend experience,

1013
00:47:04,645 --> 00:47:06,845
Speaker 2: I think going back to that whole girl next door

1014
00:47:06,885 --> 00:47:10,205
Speaker 2: thing almost It's like that's the appeal to me, is

1015
00:47:10,245 --> 00:47:13,125
Speaker 2: that it does feel like they sort of have a girlfriend.

1016
00:47:13,885 --> 00:47:16,245
Speaker 1: But before I tell you about what else I had

1017
00:47:16,245 --> 00:47:18,845
Speaker 1: to ask her, I just want to set the scene

1018
00:47:18,845 --> 00:47:20,565
Speaker 1: for you a little bit, which I probably should have

1019
00:47:20,565 --> 00:47:23,565
Speaker 1: done at the start. But because podcasting is a visual medium,

1020
00:47:23,605 --> 00:47:25,205
Speaker 1: you might not have seen the clips that we put

1021
00:47:25,285 --> 00:47:27,965
Speaker 1: up on social Let me describe to you what I

1022
00:47:28,005 --> 00:47:30,605
Speaker 1: was looking at during that conversation. I was in the

1023
00:47:30,605 --> 00:47:33,445
Speaker 1: studio at Mama Mia with my big cup of tea,

1024
00:47:33,965 --> 00:47:36,685
Speaker 1: and Annie was in a hotel room in Adelaide, and

1025
00:47:36,765 --> 00:47:39,645
Speaker 1: I could see the bed in the background, and I

1026
00:47:39,725 --> 00:47:42,805
Speaker 1: kept glancing at it and thinking about what had probably

1027
00:47:42,925 --> 00:47:46,085
Speaker 1: just gone on in that bed, on that bed, around

1028
00:47:46,085 --> 00:47:49,685
Speaker 1: that bed, against that bed earlier in the day. And look,

1029
00:47:49,725 --> 00:47:52,205
Speaker 1: I guess you could say the same about anyone's bed, really,

1030
00:47:52,485 --> 00:47:55,765
Speaker 1: because you know that's where most people do have sex.

1031
00:47:56,285 --> 00:47:58,365
Speaker 1: But the fact that she says she swept with three

1032
00:47:58,485 --> 00:48:02,205
Speaker 1: hundred people last year, and I had questions about how

1033
00:48:02,245 --> 00:48:05,725
Speaker 1: that actually worked, plus her goal for twenty twenty four,

1034
00:48:05,765 --> 00:48:09,725
Speaker 1: which is fairly ambitious. And of course I needed to

1035
00:48:09,765 --> 00:48:11,645
Speaker 1: know what a cream pie was she mentioned it. I

1036
00:48:11,685 --> 00:48:13,805
Speaker 1: didn't bring up cream pies. How could I didn't know

1037
00:48:13,845 --> 00:48:16,325
Speaker 1: what they were. I do now, and you will too

1038
00:48:16,765 --> 00:48:20,205
Speaker 1: after you listen. So subscribers and anyone else who wants

1039
00:48:20,205 --> 00:48:22,165
Speaker 1: to listen, there is a link in the show notes.

1040
00:48:22,445 --> 00:48:24,125
Speaker 1: You can do it right now. Maybe you've had enough,

1041
00:48:24,205 --> 00:48:26,045
Speaker 1: Maybe you just know all the things you need to know.

1042
00:48:26,325 --> 00:48:27,925
Speaker 1: Maybe you already know what a cream pie is.

1043
00:48:28,245 --> 00:48:28,565
Speaker 2: Go you.

1044
00:48:29,445 --> 00:48:31,925
Speaker 1: This episode of No Filter was produced by GM moylan

1045
00:48:32,245 --> 00:48:35,645
Speaker 1: and Kimberly Bradish, with sound production by Leah Paulges. I'm

1046
00:48:35,645 --> 00:48:38,765
Speaker 1: mea Friedman and it is a privilege to be in

1047
00:48:38,765 --> 00:48:49,005
Speaker 1: your ears. And here's that voice note from Annie, who

1048
00:48:49,245 --> 00:48:52,365
Speaker 1: has got an update as to what she's going to

1049
00:48:52,365 --> 00:48:56,365
Speaker 1: be doing at schoolies and addressing all of the controversy

1050
00:48:56,405 --> 00:48:56,805
Speaker 1: around that.

1051
00:48:57,445 --> 00:48:59,805
Speaker 2: So a lot has been going on since the last

1052
00:48:59,805 --> 00:49:02,845
Speaker 2: time I spoke on Mamma Mia. I have been working

1053
00:49:02,885 --> 00:49:05,685
Speaker 2: really hard at my six hundred people challenge. For those

1054
00:49:05,685 --> 00:49:08,405
Speaker 2: who don't know, I'm trying to sleep with six hundred

1055
00:49:08,445 --> 00:49:11,205
Speaker 2: people in a year. I'm currently up to five hundred

1056
00:49:11,245 --> 00:49:13,485
Speaker 2: and fifty and we at the start of November, so

1057
00:49:13,525 --> 00:49:16,765
Speaker 2: I still have just under two months ago. I'm really excited.

1058
00:49:16,765 --> 00:49:20,085
Speaker 2: I'm doing super well. I feel like I might go

1059
00:49:20,205 --> 00:49:22,885
Speaker 2: above and beyond my six hundred goal. If I do

1060
00:49:23,005 --> 00:49:25,365
Speaker 2: hit six hundred, I certainly won't be stopping.

1061
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Speaker 3: So a bit of an update on the schoolies' front.

1062
00:49:28,685 --> 00:49:32,365
Speaker 3: Bonnie's visa has been canceled. She's appealed the decision, so

1063
00:49:33,005 --> 00:49:36,405
Speaker 3: we're really hoping that her appeal will be successful and

1064
00:49:36,445 --> 00:49:39,205
Speaker 3: that they'll withdraw the cancelation and she have to come

1065
00:49:39,205 --> 00:49:41,485
Speaker 3: back to Australia and schoolies will go ahead as planned.

1066
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Speaker 3: But Bonnie and I are very much doing Schoolies together.

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Speaker 1: Either way.

1068
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Speaker 2: We're super excited.

1069
00:49:47,405 --> 00:49:49,485
Speaker 3: This has been in the works for so long and

1070
00:49:49,925 --> 00:49:53,405
Speaker 3: we can't wait to meddle schoolies and get some good

1071
00:49:53,445 --> 00:49:55,325
Speaker 3: content and I can't wait to see Bonnie again.

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00:49:55,365 --> 00:49:59,365
Speaker 2: It's been quite a long time. We are personally super excited,

1073
00:49:59,885 --> 00:50:03,525
Speaker 2: but unfortunately some people don't have the same view. We've

1074
00:50:03,525 --> 00:50:05,405
Speaker 2: had a lot of people say that we're going to

1075
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Speaker 2: be filming with miners or people that are under a

1076
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Speaker 2: which is just completely not true. We are going to

1077
00:50:12,805 --> 00:50:14,685
Speaker 2: be double checking IDs. They're going to have to present

1078
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Speaker 2: us with two forms of IDs. We'll have security guards

1079
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Speaker 2: there as well, also checking these IDs to make sure

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Speaker 2: that they're not feks. But we will only be filming

1081
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Speaker 2: with people over the age of eighteen. We've got consent

1082
00:50:26,005 --> 00:50:30,365
Speaker 2: forms ready to be signed, basically saying that they consent

1083
00:50:30,445 --> 00:50:34,445
Speaker 2: to the session. I guess we could call it being

1084
00:50:34,965 --> 00:50:39,285
Speaker 2: recorded and then sold on our platforms. We have openly

1085
00:50:39,325 --> 00:50:42,245
Speaker 2: said that at any stage, should they withdraw consent, then

1086
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Speaker 2: we will take that video down. So if we start

1087
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Speaker 2: selling that video and in a week or a year

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Speaker 2: or ten years they message us and say we withdraw

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Speaker 2: consent we want that video taken down, it will be

1090
00:50:52,845 --> 00:50:57,005
Speaker 2: taken down. There's also a lot of concern over people

1091
00:50:58,405 --> 00:51:03,085
Speaker 2: saying that this is going to ruin these They refer

1092
00:51:03,125 --> 00:51:05,205
Speaker 2: to them as kids, although we refer to them as

1093
00:51:05,565 --> 00:51:09,085
Speaker 2: adults or men as they are eighteen, their future and

1094
00:51:09,445 --> 00:51:11,485
Speaker 2: their ability to get a job in the future. But

1095
00:51:11,565 --> 00:51:16,405
Speaker 2: I say that that's ridiculous. Because they are anonymous, they

1096
00:51:16,445 --> 00:51:18,525
Speaker 2: will have their face blacked out, no one will be

1097
00:51:18,565 --> 00:51:21,845
Speaker 2: able to tell that it's them. The videos will only

1098
00:51:21,845 --> 00:51:24,405
Speaker 2: be sold behind a paywall on our only fans, so

1099
00:51:24,885 --> 00:51:27,245
Speaker 2: only those willing to purchase the video will be able

1100
00:51:27,285 --> 00:51:29,445
Speaker 2: to view it. It's not being sold on any sites

1101
00:51:29,485 --> 00:51:32,205
Speaker 2: like pornhub or anything like that. That's just like open

1102
00:51:32,285 --> 00:51:36,525
Speaker 2: for anyone to view at any time. So yeah, Unfortunately,

1103
00:51:36,605 --> 00:51:39,205
Speaker 2: I think a lot of this backlash comes from, you know,

1104
00:51:39,285 --> 00:51:42,445
Speaker 2: people being uneducated. They have just assumed a lot of

1105
00:51:42,445 --> 00:51:45,805
Speaker 2: things without actually checking the facts or asking Bonnie or

1106
00:51:45,805 --> 00:51:50,845
Speaker 2: myself the truth. But despite of the backlash and everything,

1107
00:51:50,925 --> 00:51:53,965
Speaker 2: we are both very excited for schools. We think it's

1108
00:51:53,965 --> 00:51:56,165
Speaker 2: going to be lots of fun. It's a very safe environment,

1109
00:51:56,765 --> 00:52:00,325
Speaker 2: very respectful. I think, if anything, you know, this is

1110
00:52:00,365 --> 00:52:03,365
Speaker 2: the perfect way for a young person to have their

1111
00:52:03,365 --> 00:52:06,205
Speaker 2: first experience in a safe environment with two experienced women

1112
00:52:06,285 --> 00:52:10,685
Speaker 2: who are very respectful, very consensual. Also, I forgot to mention,

1113
00:52:11,405 --> 00:52:13,885
Speaker 2: be asked to do a breathalyzer test to make sure

1114
00:52:13,885 --> 00:52:17,245
Speaker 2: that they have zero alcohol in their system. So we

1115
00:52:17,285 --> 00:52:20,365
Speaker 2: don't obviously don't want anyone making a bad choice or

1116
00:52:21,245 --> 00:52:23,805
Speaker 2: what others would refer to as a bad choice under

1117
00:52:23,805 --> 00:52:25,685
Speaker 2: the influence of alcohol. We want to make sure that

1118
00:52:25,725 --> 00:52:28,325
Speaker 2: they're completely clear headed and sober when they make that decision.

1119
00:52:29,205 --> 00:52:32,725
Speaker 2: So yeah, they will have to blow double zeros just

1120
00:52:33,285 --> 00:52:37,485
Speaker 2: to YEA, to make sure that they're making that decision

1121
00:52:37,885 --> 00:52:40,525
Speaker 2: on their own will and not because they're under the

1122
00:52:40,525 --> 00:52:43,805
Speaker 2: influence of alcohol. So that's another thing that we've put

1123
00:52:43,845 --> 00:52:45,445
Speaker 2: in place. So Bonnie and I have really thought this

1124
00:52:45,565 --> 00:52:50,405
Speaker 2: through and we're really excited. I have some really exciting

1125
00:52:50,405 --> 00:52:53,245
Speaker 2: things playing for next year as well. Bonnie and I

1126
00:52:53,285 --> 00:52:54,645
Speaker 2: have had a lot of fun doing this, so I

1127
00:52:54,645 --> 00:52:56,045
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be the last thing we

1128
00:52:56,045 --> 00:52:59,045
Speaker 2: do together. But yeah, I'm really excited for the rest

1129
00:52:59,085 --> 00:53:02,365
Speaker 2: of the year. We're so close to hitting my goal,

1130
00:53:03,045 --> 00:53:05,805
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm going to be filming the rest of

1131
00:53:05,845 --> 00:53:09,965
Speaker 2: my adventures and uploading them on my platform for anyone

1132
00:53:10,005 --> 00:53:13,525
Speaker 2: who's interested in viewing them. And yeah, it's going to

1133
00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:14,205
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun.