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Speaker 1: Okay, who is on the sofa today?
Speaker 4: How people? It's Grace fam fashion stylist.
Speaker 5: H Hi, I'm Mary Kustis, I'm an actress writer.
Speaker 2: Ginny Men's book, I'm a JP and I'm Kasmahon, your comedian.
Speaker 2: Wherever you're listening and clenching, you'r clench your pelvic floor
Speaker 2: and get ready to UNLEASHO.
Speaker 1: Great to see your ladies. What have we got this week?
Speaker 6: Before we get started, Kath, last week you admitted that
Speaker 6: you're using AI to be your relationship coach, and one
Speaker 6: of us is not happy, and she's not here, she's
Speaker 6: not dead, but she's in Melbourne and her name's Sally Hepworth.
Speaker 5: And this is what she has to say about you
Speaker 5: and Claude.
Speaker 7: Oh guys, it's Sally.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm alive, unlike your new dating coach, Kath. And look,
Speaker 3: I've got to say, I'm a little offended.
Speaker 8: Claude is your relationship guru.
Speaker 3: It's hurtful because I have obviously been offering premium dating
Speaker 3: advice along with mons to you for quite some time,
Speaker 3: and I, unlike Claude, have a pulse and also, more importantly,
Speaker 3: the ability to share gossip. So I just want to
Speaker 3: point out a few reasons why I am superior to
Speaker 3: Claude as a dating coach. Obviously, Number one, I'm human,
Speaker 3: actually had relationships, not great ones. But point number two,
Speaker 3: Claude probably understands attachment theory.
Speaker 4: Good for him.
Speaker 3: You know what I understand vibes. Vibes are ninety nine
Speaker 3: percent of dating, and we all know that's true. Number three,
Speaker 3: Claude might be able to tell you what a man
Speaker 3: might mean when.
Speaker 4: He says it's a busy week.
Speaker 3: He is guessing, you know what, I'm basing it on
Speaker 3: punctuation response time, whether he's watched his Instagram story. I
Speaker 3: am doing my due diligence. What the fuck is Claude
Speaker 3: doing like a sweep of what he can find online.
Speaker 3: That's bullshit. Mine's personalized number four And I think this
Speaker 3: is the most important. Claude has never once poured you
Speaker 3: a drink and said respectfully. This man is a red flag.
Speaker 3: So saying, enjoy your robot boyfriend whisperer cap But when
Speaker 3: it starts to fall apart, I'm just saying I'm going
Speaker 3: to be here.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be.
Speaker 3: Here with emotional support, with mild bias, always in your favor,
Speaker 3: an unqualified confidence that I would like to share.
Speaker 4: So stop going to Claude. You've got a team.
Speaker 3: Of women very bad advice right on the couch with you.
Speaker 3: No Claude, stick with unleashed bye.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 4: I love how miss Sally is so competitive of Claude.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would like to say to Sally, who will
Speaker 2: be listening because she's not.
Speaker 1: It's still not.
Speaker 2: Is that I do go to her like I go
Speaker 2: to her first. But you know, she's a busy mum,
Speaker 2: she's got three kids, she'd be writing another best seller
Speaker 2: as we speak. She's got hot Dan that she'll be
Speaker 2: having some you know, love time with, and she's just
Speaker 2: moved into a new house that she's you know, wrecking
Speaker 2: one room at a time if you watch your Instagram stories.
Speaker 2: So I just think I hear you, Sally, but I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that needy friend.
Speaker 8: And Claude gave good advice. I thought Claude's advice was like,
Speaker 8: bang on.
Speaker 4: And sadly is not twenty four hours you know exactly.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, here's what.
Speaker 6: I find about chat just on a loose generic level.
Speaker 6: They're very American. Yes, it's all very positive, and it's
Speaker 6: all very generic, and they talk us up like it
Speaker 6: tells me I'm a genius, and it tells me you're
Speaker 6: terrific and you're marvelous.
Speaker 5: And I love that idea.
Speaker 6: And this isn't going to be like anything else ever
Speaker 6: seen before on the planet. And I sometimes think it
Speaker 6: plays to our ego.
Speaker 2: Claude and he was very much like he has not
Speaker 2: tried to reschedule since he canceled at six thirty seven
Speaker 2: am in the morning. You're meant to see him at
Speaker 2: ten am because he'd had a bender with his mates.
Speaker 2: And Claude was like, do not reach out under any circumstance.
Speaker 2: I was like, what about a DM on Instagram? No, no,
Speaker 2: what'sapp No, no telegram, no pigeon.
Speaker 1: No, you're better than that. So that's so.
Speaker 2: I think I had my back he did. But I
Speaker 2: do agree, you do. Yeah, they are quite you know.
Speaker 2: They do puff you up a bit, they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, I think that's enough about me and my
Speaker 2: my nondescript love life. Let's talk about something else. The
Speaker 2: stirrup pant, the stirrup legging. Annalise, who is one of
Speaker 2: the writers at Mama Maa, did a fantastic piece on
Speaker 2: the new job per stirrup trousers. She wore them for
Speaker 2: an entire week to work. I also saw them at
Speaker 2: Marks and Spencer's and Kmart. Really, Gray Slam, Are they
Speaker 2: coming back? What are we doing with them?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not bin them?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: Would I want to look like Borret? You know?
Speaker 1: You know what it.
Speaker 4: Reminds me of. It doesn't matter whether you're Cando Jenna
Speaker 4: or you're like Cindy Crawford who is like six foot weather.
Speaker 4: It just doesn't look good to me. Like it does
Speaker 4: not look good. It reminds me of when I had
Speaker 4: braces when I was nine years old, with elastic band.
Speaker 4: When I open my mouth, yes, it's just like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I don't want to see people dressing like boret
Speaker 4: every day.
Speaker 1: No, it's a lot of vagina.
Speaker 4: It's just not cool.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think I'm scarred because I remember it was a
Speaker 6: big thing with women to wear those stirrup pants tight.
Speaker 5: And I do remember a bit of camel.
Speaker 6: Toe, a bit sort of pulling down but cutting up
Speaker 6: at the same time.
Speaker 5: So the big w was always on show with those pants.
Speaker 1: I had them in black and I had them in thorn.
Speaker 2: Base literally like a job per, like I was about
Speaker 2: to get on some Jim Karner and.
Speaker 1: They weren't good the first time round. So I'm saying no.
Speaker 4: I mean, just because it appears on the catwalk doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that we all have to jump into it.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 4: I am in the middle of doing my master cast
Speaker 4: a jewel as an online thing, and I'm teaching people
Speaker 4: not to follow tramp because sometimes when it's trendy, people
Speaker 4: just jump into it.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Not in my book, I have.
Speaker 8: Never heard of a stirrup pant. Wow, I am the
Speaker 8: last person on the planet you would ever discuss fashion with.
Speaker 8: I've got absolutely no clue. I'm going to play the
Speaker 8: feet on everything to do with fashion.
Speaker 1: These were the eighties, weren't they the first time round?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Is that right?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, people, let's not go there. I mean,
Speaker 4: if they're going to bring that back, then I much
Speaker 4: rather have the big shoulder pads come on. At least
Speaker 4: I can like wear them so people don't touch me,
Speaker 4: you know, with their germs and stuff. I would love
Speaker 4: that bring back the shoulder pads that.
Speaker 5: Never left me.
Speaker 6: If he wears a lot of shoulder pads, yeah, it's
Speaker 6: not the boxy jacket like from Working Girl. It's more
Speaker 6: cinched at the waist so you look like a bit
Speaker 6: of a superhero.
Speaker 5: I don't mind a shoulder pad very pro Hats.
Speaker 8: Off to whoever invented shoulder pads. I think that was
Speaker 8: a really brilliant thing, and I hope they have absolutely
Speaker 8: cleaned up. I don't know about you guys, but I
Speaker 8: always think that I have come up with the latest
Speaker 8: greatest invention and that I'm going to clean up. And
Speaker 8: one recent hike that I did, I was desperate for
Speaker 8: a weei and what I thought was, wouldn't it be
Speaker 8: great and Grace You'd be so into this if there
Speaker 8: was like an app where you could be told not
Speaker 8: only the nearest toilet, but like where people get to
Speaker 8: rate it, like trip Advisor, and so you actually get
Speaker 8: to know like is their toilet paper? Is there a
Speaker 8: toilet seat, which in Europe is quite frequently absent. I
Speaker 8: think that kind of thing would be very useful information,
Speaker 8: Like you know, you get a four point nine out
Speaker 8: of five.
Speaker 4: And so I decided that.
Speaker 8: I would call my invention AIRWINP and I had it
Speaker 8: all worked out, and I went home and found out
Speaker 8: that there are already five of those inventions in existence,
Speaker 8: and so you know, my Telstra Business Award kind of
Speaker 8: fantasy just fizzed, going up in flames. Guys, are you
Speaker 8: constantly inventing things that you find out somebody else has
Speaker 8: actually already beaten into it?
Speaker 6: I am a big fan of items that help give
Speaker 6: you confidence, Like that's what the shoulder pad was about, right,
Speaker 6: makes you feel powerful. There's just so many of those
Speaker 6: things because I think society in general is just trying
Speaker 6: to rob us about confidence, yes constantly, especially as women.
Speaker 6: Oh you got to use this cream in order for
Speaker 6: you to look beautiful, and you got to wear your
Speaker 6: hair like this, and your body's got to be looking
Speaker 6: like that and I was thinking.
Speaker 5: Well, what about men.
Speaker 6: You know, men don't have a lot to choose from
Speaker 6: in terms of what gives them confidence. Like they have pants,
Speaker 6: a singlet if they're built and they've got guns and
Speaker 6: their body confident, a shirt, a jacket, maybe an ugly
Speaker 6: pair of shorts.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 6: They don't have the options that we have when it
Speaker 6: comes to fashion. So I was thinking, how could a
Speaker 6: man feel more confident? And then I was thinking about balls, Men's.
Speaker 8: Nuts, you know, confidence boosters.
Speaker 1: Right there exactly.
Speaker 6: They're just a factory, aren't they. They just do all
Speaker 6: the work. And I was thinking about their boys boobs.
Speaker 6: They're like our boobs, except they're.
Speaker 5: In their pants.
Speaker 8: No one they look at them.
Speaker 5: And no one wants to see them.
Speaker 6: And then I thought, what if they those balls deserved
Speaker 6: to have their moment. Maybe we need a ball bra,
Speaker 6: you know, with straps that you can shorten or lengthen,
Speaker 6: depending on what you're doing that day. Say you're wearing,
Speaker 6: you know, a tightish pair of pants and you want
Speaker 6: to feel confident, you tighten the straps and the balls
Speaker 6: come up, and then you're at home and you want
Speaker 6: to relax and you are where it tracks her or
Speaker 6: something like that. You release the straps and they you know,
Speaker 6: they flump around, they hang and go command ask a question.
Speaker 8: I seriously do not know the answer to this. If
Speaker 8: men run, particularly if they have large balls, do their
Speaker 8: balls hurt? Like you know, how a woman needs a
Speaker 8: sports br a man? Does a man need a sports
Speaker 8: ball bra?
Speaker 4: Is that a thing?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it, but I don't you first
Speaker 1: we pat it?
Speaker 5: No, I just thought of.
Speaker 6: It on stage when I was doing a show a
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, and a guy told me he
Speaker 6: worked for Bonds. He designed underwear for Bonds, And I said, well,
Speaker 6: that's already been done, has it? How many times can
Speaker 6: you design a g stream or a brief or a
Speaker 6: box a short? And I said, what you should be?
Speaker 6: And I hadn't thought about this until that moment. You
Speaker 6: should be designing a ball bra. And I pitched him there,
Speaker 6: and then the ball bra for Bonds?
Speaker 1: Yes, why would they not take it?
Speaker 8: Exactly natural?
Speaker 2: It's got to be a thing, right, So this hasn't Actually,
Speaker 2: this is not a thing yet. So I don't know
Speaker 2: market unleashed, except maybe it would be more leashed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a great idea. One of us uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: We're uncomfortable all the time. I remember today how I
Speaker 6: used to do up my mum's girdle when I.
Speaker 1: Was a child.
Speaker 5: Respects wow, and the poor thing.
Speaker 6: I had to pour all and meat into the back
Speaker 6: there and then push with all my light.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'd have to get my brother involved. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: that's tubes in the seventies.
Speaker 4: Katha, honey, Yeah, sure. Invention.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was going to be my invention,
Speaker 2: but apparently it's already out there. I was like, as
Speaker 2: a you know, eternally single person, I just thought, there
Speaker 2: must be so many times that I walk past someone
Speaker 2: else who's single that I don't know. And what if
Speaker 2: there was an app we could put your details on
Speaker 2: to say I'm single and I'm interested and this is
Speaker 2: what I'm into and you pinged when you walked past.
Speaker 1: It was called happen and it's already been out Was
Speaker 1: it any good?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we should redo one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, be like find my phone, except find my day
Speaker 6: or my person.
Speaker 1: This is great, We're on. That's what we'll call it.
Speaker 6: You know, like how they say when you go to
Speaker 6: the supermarket, like there are all these signs to say
Speaker 6: you're single, Like if you put your bananas on the
Speaker 6: top thing and you do it like that, maybe we
Speaker 6: need to wear not a yellow carnation, because you know,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't trust anyone that wore a yellow carnation, but
Speaker 6: some sort of fashion item that singled you out in
Speaker 6: some way to say, you know, I'm open to meeting
Speaker 6: someone great. And it was something that you wore that
Speaker 6: maybe only single people knew about.
Speaker 1: Ma'am.
Speaker 4: What is the banana and a trolley thing?
Speaker 6: There was some talk that at Woolli's or Coals, I
Speaker 6: don't even remember which one that on certain times of
Speaker 6: maybe early evening when you're going home, you would stop
Speaker 6: at the supermarket and if you were single, I think
Speaker 6: it was you put them in the top part. Remember
Speaker 6: you know how there's that top section in a trolley
Speaker 6: and they'd have them up right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, had to face them up. That meant you
Speaker 8: were single.
Speaker 5: That meant you were single.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: Now I've heard that. It's definitely a thing tried. Well,
Speaker 2: I've always got bananas in my trolley, but nobody is
Speaker 2: approaching me in the cold dial. To be honest, there
Speaker 2: was a guy on my street that I kind of
Speaker 2: I sat on the bench and he was coming out
Speaker 2: top of my street and doesn't have a ring on
Speaker 2: right age. I tried to smile a bit but couldn't
Speaker 2: get his attention, and I really nearly put like a
Speaker 2: note on his windscreen.
Speaker 8: Oh but I just thought that was exactly.
Speaker 2: But how else you want to meet people, I'm going
Speaker 2: to ask Claude. Yeah, actually, well, I think sporting events.
Speaker 2: My son is obviously nowaday age where he's seventeen, so
Speaker 2: every weekend I have to schlep to another sporting event,
Speaker 2: and a lot of them on Saturday are with schools.
Speaker 2: He's seventeen, so he is like peak age of other
Speaker 2: kids his age having parents who.
Speaker 1: Were divorced or divorced.
Speaker 2: So I would just like to do a thing at
Speaker 2: halftime where it's like all the single people would like
Speaker 2: to come on the field just offer themselves to the
Speaker 2: other single people.
Speaker 1: Would be great because there's got to be people out there.
Speaker 2: And if I've got to watch rugby in the rain
Speaker 2: for eighty minutes, like at least the data out of
Speaker 2: the end of it, I like it. Kav.
Speaker 8: That is your invention, football Spade diating, I don't think
Speaker 8: it's been done yet.
Speaker 2: And we don't need an app, we don't need a
Speaker 2: tect build, we don't need startup phase.
Speaker 8: We could do it.
Speaker 1: You just need a megaphone.
Speaker 4: So, ladies, something crazy happened to me recently. I got
Speaker 4: invited to Parliament House camera by the Health Minister, whoa
Speaker 4: quite a surreal moment because they were launching the first
Speaker 4: ever perimenopause campaign in Australia and they invited me and
Speaker 4: some of our lovely listeners might not know that I
Speaker 4: advocate a lot for perimenopause because I want to break
Speaker 4: the stigma. I want to normalize this conversation. And I
Speaker 4: also want to show people that perimenopause a woman, a
Speaker 4: menopause woman, we are fabulous and cool and very fashion.
Speaker 4: And then when I got to Canberra and on the
Speaker 4: way there, I had a lovely uber driver who's also
Speaker 4: an immigrant and we exchanged stories and what was so
Speaker 4: amazing was he was asking me so many questions about
Speaker 4: perimenopause because he's suspecting his wife is going through it.
Speaker 4: He took out a notebook he was going to write notes.
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't do that. You're driving, let me, let
Speaker 4: me write everything safe anyway, and when I entered the building,
Speaker 4: everyone was like, oh my god, who's this girl. First
Speaker 4: of all, I don't dress like a politician, so I
Speaker 4: wore like a pin striped suit, like a gray suit
Speaker 4: from a Melbourne designer best and inside I wore a
Speaker 4: bright red turtleneck because people keep telling me it's really
Speaker 4: cold in camera. And I wore a rough old dress
Speaker 4: underneath so you can see it through my suits, high
Speaker 4: heeled fun Pokado socks and then my Chanel bag. So
Speaker 4: the minute I walked into Parliament House, everyone knew I'm
Speaker 4: not a politician because they were not dressed like that, right.
Speaker 4: And I deliberately didn't tell my mom because I just
Speaker 4: wanted to surprise her. So I sent her a picture
Speaker 4: of me doing a selfie in front of Parliament House.
Speaker 4: Her reaction was like.
Speaker 1: Is it ai? And I was like, oh, man, come on.
Speaker 4: So I went into Parliament House. So, first of all,
Speaker 4: the outside of the building it's quite spectacular and the
Speaker 4: energy that is very strong. I had a bit of
Speaker 4: out of body experience and I didn't know what was
Speaker 4: going on because I just everything was so overwhelming, because
Speaker 4: it was quite strange to be there as an immigrant,
Speaker 4: and everyone there were super friendly, supersed But it was
Speaker 4: just a moment for me to remember for the rest
Speaker 4: of my life, and I thought if I was really
Speaker 4: scared of doing something, nothing ever happened like that.
Speaker 8: Right, Did you made elbow the Prime Minister?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't. However, he was in the same room
Speaker 4: as us, honking the mic because we were supposed to
Speaker 4: get on in front of the news, and he took
Speaker 4: so long because we was speaking a long time. Fun fact,
Speaker 4: the Assistant Health Minister is a fan of Unleash, so
Speaker 4: she listened to us because when I told her, she goes, oh, no, no,
Speaker 4: I listened to you on Unleashed.
Speaker 8: Well, obviously it's so good for her heart health to
Speaker 8: be laughing along with us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because she's quite a gentle person. Actually, she speaks
Speaker 4: very gently. But it was such an amazing experience for
Speaker 4: me because I left Hong Kong based on fear because
Speaker 4: of the social unrest and it was very unsafe. I
Speaker 4: left there and I went to Perth. Didn't know anyone,
Speaker 4: and I'm not very close to my husband's family, so
Speaker 4: I didn't know what was happening, and I didn't know
Speaker 4: what's going to happen to my life or my career. Nothing.
Speaker 4: And then when I was in Parliament House, I thought,
Speaker 4: how does this happen? It's so strange to me that
Speaker 4: all I did was just talk about menopause because I
Speaker 4: didn't want people to typecast us. I want to make
Speaker 4: sure the message is out there that we're still fabulous
Speaker 4: and fun and cool. And then suddenly I'm in this
Speaker 4: place with all these people and it was quite a
Speaker 4: surreal moment. And my message here is at fifty three young,
Speaker 4: I feel like, oh my god, fear doesn't face me
Speaker 4: at all. So what I want to know is, why
Speaker 4: have you done that's completely fearless? Doctor Ginny.
Speaker 8: Oh, I've got imposter syndrome all the time, and I
Speaker 8: always am full of fear. I always think that somebody's
Speaker 8: going to rip off the mask and actually reveal that
Speaker 8: I'm just a bit of a screw up.
Speaker 4: But no.
Speaker 8: But I think often we are our own worst critics,
Speaker 8: and we don't see any achievements that we've ever done,
Speaker 8: and you look at other people, like when we started
Speaker 8: doing Unleashed, and I realized that I was going to
Speaker 8: be sitting with the fee from my childhood and my
Speaker 8: teenage years in my twenties, I was like, I was
Speaker 8: so in awe and for all of you, all of
Speaker 8: you guys have done so much, and every one of us,
Speaker 8: I think probably thinks how am I sitting in this
Speaker 8: room with everybody else?
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 8: But no, I think. I think a lot of women
Speaker 8: are constrained by maybe imposter syndrome, maybe by fear.
Speaker 2: Hang on a minute, you've built a skincare empire. Come on,
Speaker 2: you've got to be a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're very fearless.
Speaker 8: I think the thing that so many women have when
Speaker 8: we talk about fear is that new languages can feel
Speaker 8: really overwhelming, and finance is one of those languages. Like
Speaker 8: you can look at a balance sheet or a profit
Speaker 8: and loss statement or an income statement and go, I
Speaker 8: don't even know what this means. And realizing for myself,
Speaker 8: I had always thought that I was absolutely clueless, couldn't
Speaker 8: manage a spreadsheet, did not know one end of a
Speaker 8: checkbook from another. And it turns out I'm actually not
Speaker 8: bad at doing finance, but I still can't reconcile that
Speaker 8: with who I know. I am like that I always think,
Speaker 8: like I don't know anything. I'm going to take advice
Speaker 8: from everyone.
Speaker 4: You know what I love about doctor Jeanie. And this
Speaker 4: is a fact that a lot of clever people or
Speaker 4: high achiever they never think they're clever enough or done enough.
Speaker 4: And there's all those assholes that pretend to have done
Speaker 4: so much that they bs their way out right. So
Speaker 4: I think this is a really nice trait that you have.
Speaker 8: I think you're always aware of the things you don't know,
Speaker 8: like I think women are always very focused on the
Speaker 8: things that they don't know. Your gaps in your knowledge,
Speaker 8: the things that you have failed at, the things that
Speaker 8: you have not achieved that you might have thought you
Speaker 8: could have achieved. That's where our heads go to. And
Speaker 8: you never see yourself. Sometimes it's really nice to see
Speaker 8: yourself reflected in somebody else's vision of you, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 8: I didn't really think that about myself, But I think
Speaker 8: you can end up. There are so many women I
Speaker 8: know who don't step into their power because I don't
Speaker 8: even see the.
Speaker 1: Power they have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, mah, I've had my own parliament House experience. One
Speaker 6: of the biggest core jobs you can do in the
Speaker 6: entertainment industries to do the mid Winter Ball, and that
Speaker 6: is when all political parties put away their differences for
Speaker 6: a night and it's run by the Press Gallery, and
Speaker 6: you know, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: It's a very beautiful event.
Speaker 6: Everyone dresses up and the room looks spectacular and I've
Speaker 6: had the pleasure of hosting it twice.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I felt the same grace.
Speaker 6: I felt like, you know, what were the chances of
Speaker 6: the child of an immigrant in my case, you know,
Speaker 6: my parents came out here in the fifties for their
Speaker 6: daughter to be performing for the Prime minister in front
Speaker 6: of the most powerful press in the country and all
Speaker 6: the politicians.
Speaker 1: It was a really good feeling.
Speaker 6: And I think it needs to be something that is
Speaker 6: more accessible to more people, not just as a tourist
Speaker 6: to turn up to and look at, but to realize
Speaker 6: the power that we have as a population and as
Speaker 6: individuals to make a difference. And sometimes you just need
Speaker 6: to push for what you believe is right enough for
Speaker 6: it to make a difference to me more people than
Speaker 6: just us. And I felt that night that I was
Speaker 6: representing a lot of people like me that would think,
Speaker 6: you know, I'll never get to be in that rarefied
Speaker 6: space or talk to people. And I do a lot
Speaker 6: of research before I do my jobs. And Malcolm Farr
Speaker 6: was a big political writer at the time, and I
Speaker 6: spoke to him at length, and then I spoke to
Speaker 6: the head of the press gallery, and then I wrote
Speaker 6: a monologue for the evening and they thought it was
Speaker 6: written by Malcolm and it wasn't. I just did a
Speaker 6: lot of research and I put Effie at the Efie
Speaker 6: Center in Australian Politics for a night and it felt
Speaker 6: really good. Yeah, So congrats, Grace. We're really really proud
Speaker 6: of what.
Speaker 1: You've done for all women. Grace Mary.
Speaker 2: Are you guys saying that we should do an unleashed
Speaker 2: show live at Parliament House?
Speaker 4: I mean, now that me and a health mins are besties,
Speaker 4: maybe I'll just tell them, well.
Speaker 2: We can't all be galli hunting to Canberra, miss Grace Lamb.
Speaker 2: Some of us are firmly planted on our sofa. It's winter,
Speaker 2: it's cold, it's dark at five pm. No one wants
Speaker 2: to leave the house. So for those listening who are
Speaker 2: family planted on their.
Speaker 1: Sofa, put this show on your X list right away.
Speaker 2: It's called Rivals, okay, and it's not hated rivalry.
Speaker 1: No. You can see there's a theme isn't there with
Speaker 1: the shows that I like.
Speaker 2: But before you go all judgey, let me just say
Speaker 2: there is two seasons of this TV show. It is
Speaker 2: based on Jilly Cooper, or Dame Jilly Cooper's book Rivals,
Speaker 2: that was, you know, one of the paperbacks in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Two seasons.
Speaker 2: Season one ninety five percent Rotten Tomatoes, Season two one
Speaker 2: hundred percent tomatoes. It was Disney's number one drama in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and The Guardian gave it ten thousand stars.
Speaker 1: Way now you're interested on it? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, what's so good about it?
Speaker 2: It's so good because it is right up our gen
Speaker 2: x Alli ladies, because it is set in the eighties.
Speaker 2: The very first scene from season one is two people
Speaker 2: bonking on Concord. Do you think of anything more Eighties
Speaker 2: than Concord?
Speaker 1: It's fabulous.
Speaker 2: It's got David tennant In, it's got Aiden Turner, it's
Speaker 2: got Danny Dyer. It's got Catherine Parkinson who won a
Speaker 2: BAFTA for the IT crowd. It is launchy, it's a
Speaker 2: bonk fest. There are shoulder pads coming out of your
Speaker 2: shoulder pads. If it's smelt, it would be deal poison
Speaker 2: coming out on all Links Africa. It is all of
Speaker 2: the things you want.
Speaker 1: It's so joyful. You need to watch that.
Speaker 4: I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 2: You can watch it on Disney or I think through Apple,
Speaker 2: but truly, like it is so joyful.
Speaker 1: It takes you so back, you know the way we talked.
Speaker 2: A couple of EEPs ago about the Kilimano Dooco that's
Speaker 2: on Netflix.
Speaker 1: It takes you right back. It's the eighties. The last
Speaker 1: episode I watched.
Speaker 2: It starts with in the Jungle, the Mighty Jungle. The
Speaker 2: line he's driving like with his top down, and I
Speaker 2: was like, go, oh my god, followed.
Speaker 1: By Banana Arma, followed by Duran, Duran.
Speaker 2: It's so good. Lots of sex, lots of all the
Speaker 2: things you want.
Speaker 1: Really, I love.
Speaker 8: From you's so good because you are so passionate when
Speaker 8: you give a reco I love it like you really
Speaker 8: give things your heart. So yeah, thank you for that
Speaker 8: and your your reco. Enough is enough for me to
Speaker 8: download this.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so in a world of not
Speaker 2: always happy. It's just a show. It's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Speaker 2: That's all I've got to say. Thank you for coming
Speaker 2: to my show.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, cap I love the eighties.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, to do we.
Speaker 6: Get enough of that stuff? Which brings me to this question.
Speaker 6: I've been thinking about this a lot. Can you girls
Speaker 6: remember the first ever are film you saw, either you
Speaker 6: snuck into or you saw that left a mark on
Speaker 6: your mind and warped the way you looked at the
Speaker 6: world forever.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, I My first ever R rated movie was
Speaker 8: at a friend's house whose parents were never ever home,
Speaker 8: so we were allowed to just run riot there. I
Speaker 8: think I was in year seven and we watched Christian
Speaker 8: f Do you remember that movie? It was from Berlin.
Speaker 8: It actually had subtitles, but was really really popular. It
Speaker 8: was cult when I was at high school, but it
Speaker 8: was about a high school girl like us who got
Speaker 8: drawn into the world of drugs and heroin and crime.
Speaker 8: Once you became an addict, it was terrifying. There was
Speaker 8: actual scenes of people injecting heroin.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 8: But I remember just thinking I couldn't understand before then
Speaker 8: why anybody would inject heroin. And I don't know whether
Speaker 8: this happened in your families, but my mom would say, like,
Speaker 8: if you go to the movies, don't sit on the
Speaker 8: because there are heroin pushes who go and inject you
Speaker 8: with heroin and then you're you're hooked for life. And
Speaker 8: I was like, was in terror of ever going to
Speaker 8: the movies with a group of friends and Meg stuck
Speaker 8: on the end. So this was actually a really amazing
Speaker 8: way segue into understanding drug addiction that was so huge
Speaker 8: in the seventies. It was set in the seventies. It's
Speaker 8: a beautiful, beautiful movie. And I think that's how I
Speaker 8: ended up eventually for so long doing drug and alcohol
Speaker 8: medicine prescribing method owned for heroin addicts. I think my
Speaker 8: first my first interest in it was kindled by that movie.
Speaker 4: No Way, That's crazy.
Speaker 6: I remember at school reading a book called Go Ask Alice,
Speaker 6: Do you remember, Yes, it was The Personality Disorder, Yeah,
Speaker 6: And it was a diary of a heroin addict. And
Speaker 6: then I remember writing in my own diary that I
Speaker 6: was scared that someone was going to inject me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't end up becoming a doctor or a heroin addict, which.
Speaker 1: Is good, which is good, which is good to use.
Speaker 6: The first R rated film I watched was The Exorcist.
Speaker 6: People in those days, there was nothing more horrific. I
Speaker 6: knew relatives and family friends that started sleeping in the
Speaker 6: bed with their parents.
Speaker 5: After watching that for months.
Speaker 6: It was so so scary, and she I think the
Speaker 6: priest is Greek in it, so you hear a bit
Speaker 6: of Greek language about her head turning around and all
Speaker 6: of the Greek vomit tongues and the green vomit. That
Speaker 6: was a film that changed everything. And then later on
Speaker 6: it was Jaws, but that was the first film I
Speaker 6: remember being terrorized by.
Speaker 2: You bring up a few for me, Jaws, The Exorcist
Speaker 2: and Nightmare in Elm Street. Oh, that was one of
Speaker 2: my I can't watch horror for films now, can you?
Speaker 5: No time?
Speaker 6: I mean, this wasn't an R rated film. But I
Speaker 6: remember when I was little there was a television show
Speaker 6: that was They used the front of an apartment building
Speaker 6: in Mulara in Sydney, and it was called Number ninety
Speaker 6: six and it was really ahead of its time. There
Speaker 6: was a gay guy and there was a raunchy blonde chick,
Speaker 6: and I remember hearing on the grapevine that the blonde actress,
Speaker 6: Abigail was her name, was going to do full frontal.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I was so excited. It was like
Speaker 5: my Christmas is at coming once? How was I going
Speaker 5: to get to see this?
Speaker 6: Like? So, I remember it was on and all of
Speaker 6: Australia was, you know, because we only had a couple
Speaker 6: of channels back then, maybe three four. Max knew that
Speaker 6: this was the night that Abergil was going to do
Speaker 6: a full front and I'm sure my parents were parked
Speaker 6: in front of the telly and I kept pretending I
Speaker 6: was sick and I needed a glass of water because
Speaker 6: I was so horny and excited.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, I have to see this.
Speaker 4: So my first film where the first film I ever
Speaker 4: saw people kissing or any sex scene was Seeing Amma's Fire.
Speaker 4: So I was in UK boarding school and we have
Speaker 4: a TV common room and it was the first film
Speaker 4: that they have a show to all the girls in
Speaker 4: one big room. I didn't know what it was. And
Speaker 4: when I saw them kissing, I mean, it was such
Speaker 4: a cool film. You know. I was a big fan
Speaker 4: of Roblow.
Speaker 1: I lovedro Blow more.
Speaker 4: She was so gorgeous, still gorgeous. Yeah. And then Andrew mccarthury, Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh my god, he was so hot. I actually like
Speaker 4: him more so that film changed everything for me because
Speaker 4: I thought, wow, a bunch of people living together, they're
Speaker 4: really good friends as they're so cool and they're like young,
Speaker 4: you know, all that beautiful. That was my first introduction
Speaker 4: of like our rage of film.
Speaker 8: Do you remember the movie When a Stranger Calls? It
Speaker 8: was from nineteen seventy nine and it's about a girl.
Speaker 8: It's a horror film rated R and she gets a
Speaker 8: phone call. Have you checked the children? Oh yeah, And
Speaker 8: it's about being a babysitter. And this was in plumb
Speaker 8: Age where we were all doing babysitting, and it was
Speaker 8: just the most terrifying, like blood curdling movie ever.
Speaker 9: It's like Exorcist level bad. And so yeah, that mean
Speaker 9: really scared to be a babysitter. Amateurville horror remember that
Speaker 9: we love And it's the seventies in America, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: It was always just yeah, you're right though. It was
Speaker 2: when I was old enough to babysit my brother and sister,
Speaker 2: So you'd want to watch these films and then as
Speaker 2: soon as you'd finish, you were just terrified.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I often slept with like a knife by my bed.
Speaker 6: Weirdo, that is weird, But I remember sunces were really
Speaker 6: we'd go over to a family friend's house and the
Speaker 6: you know, the adults had been at one end of
Speaker 6: the house and we'd set up a Wiji board.
Speaker 5: Yeah, talk to dead spirits. And I remember I was
Speaker 5: always the one pushing.
Speaker 6: It, and we always saw that there was like you know,
Speaker 6: frosty misty bit, yes, you know, in.
Speaker 5: The corner of the room, and we just loved being
Speaker 5: scared chill.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the original claude as my kids are
Speaker 2: so old now, but seriously, our sounds has gone, and
Speaker 2: your kids not do that anymore.
Speaker 1: You don't hear much.
Speaker 5: We expect everyone to do everything for them.
Speaker 6: And I'm not just talking about on a parenting level,
Speaker 6: but why would they try to scare each other when someone,
Speaker 6: a great filmmaker can do it for them. We would,
Speaker 6: you know, we weren't watching those films enough because we're
Speaker 6: at the mercy of television programmers. We couldn't just find
Speaker 6: them on a Netflix or you know.
Speaker 2: You've got to Blockbuster and you get like the video
Speaker 2: cover and you'd be like this out, do you remember, No,
Speaker 2: it's out.
Speaker 1: It's devastated kids these days, Yeah, they will never know
Speaker 1: the pain.
Speaker 4: We want to know from our listeners what our rate
Speaker 4: of film that you've watched and dm us on Instagram
Speaker 4: and leased doc show is it right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And we want to know everything what you've watched and
Speaker 4: did it permanently warp your brain after watching that?
Speaker 2: Well, now we're all remembering how scarred we were back
Speaker 2: in the eighties. I think that's all we've got time for, ladies.
Speaker 2: I know another app over. Big shout out to all
Speaker 2: of our listeners who love reaching out to us, including Chanelle.
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