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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kellen McCarran and in casey mister West.

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Speaker 3: Excited because it's spring, the best season.

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Speaker 1: I love springs. I'm this huge spring and autumn gal

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Speaker 1: Yes, I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: We're emerging from winter. I'm excited. I am heading off

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Speaker 1: It'll still be yours.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just so so happy that winter is behind us. So, Kelly,

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Speaker 2: what do we do today?

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Speaker 3: So on Mondays we answer questions and we love answering

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Speaker 2: We're going to be walking you through the pros and

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Speaker 2: the cons of lip blushing, and I'm going to share

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Speaker 2: my blow by blow, honest experience. But first a question

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Speaker 2: from the Facebook group.

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Speaker 1: And none has asked.

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, do you have any recommendations for a showers

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Speaker 3: cream slash wash that's good for face and body. I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to simplify my routine. A spending and savy option

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I have a couple.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, I have an also confession to make. I

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Speaker 1: Don't ask what happened when I was backing you just

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Speaker 1: use the body wash. I just use the hotel body wash?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it consistently.

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Speaker 2: But a seffactant is a suffactant is a suffectant sort

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Speaker 2: of Anyway, I've got ones that do both for you,

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Speaker 2: which is better than just using Well, we should not like,

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Speaker 2: don't just use something that is labeled body wash or shampoo,

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Speaker 2: But some that are formulated for both. So there's a

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Speaker 2: brand called Yours Only, and they have a product called Clean.

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Speaker 2: It comes at a big pump back five hundred miles

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Speaker 2: So that's a good one. Dan, You're gonna head to

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Speaker 2: So the set Feel Gentle Skin cleanser for face and body.

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Speaker 2: nature like bio something, bidegradable, botanical, botanical, botanical, It looks

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Speaker 2: Cleansing gel for body, face and hands. One liter that's

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Speaker 3: So hopefully that helps your budget and your speedy routine.

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Speaker 3: to simplifying your beauty routine. So Yorlanda has written to

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Speaker 1: And it is, by the way, messages anywhere you like.

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Speaker 3: I'm really curious about lip blushing tattoos. I would love

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Speaker 3: it for everyone? Is it safe for breastfeeding? How visit

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Speaker 3: and what are the pros and cons? Did we do

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Speaker 2: can just hear the little tatoo gun. She's constantly dipping

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Speaker 2: that back in the color. It didn't hurt, it just

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Speaker 1: Ask your friends, ask the Facebook group. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, I've got a hack for

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Speaker 3: Lee and her eyeballs and everyone's eyeballs and everyone's eyeballs,

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Speaker 3: but I'm looking at yours right now.

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Speaker 2: What a.

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Speaker 3: You mae cup hacks?

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Speaker 1: Lee, I've got a hose tack for you this week. Well,

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Speaker 1: my god, my eyeballs need it. This is for anyone

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Speaker 2: I often don't please explain tight lining for the tite lining.

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Speaker 3: Generally just upper, yeah, because it makes your lashes look

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Speaker 4: that can make your eyes look whiter. They're not blue

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Speaker 2: It's tight navy instead of black. I don't even have

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love tight lining.

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Speaker 2: Here exactly, maybe from a you know, a fresh quick

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Speaker 2: So I literally have dripping body skin slap body moisturizes

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Speaker 2: Well, our bathroom's upstairs and the heat are downstairs. Rises anyway, all.

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