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Speaker 1: Welcome to the sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly, The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yay. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: fu entrepreneurs wapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: Matro Maiden and match Milk Bark CZA is a series

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Speaker 1: of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring

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Speaker 1: the self doubt, challenge, joy, and fulfillment along the way.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time I've had a bit of an

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Speaker 1: deep dive into the Internet to put together the pieces

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Speaker 1: in advance. Today's guest, however, was one of those fascinating

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Speaker 1: beings whose story isn't readily documented in the media, meaning

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Speaker 1: we're all hearing it for the first time together. Literally.

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Speaker 1: This was her first podcast ever. Having discovered Sarah as

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Speaker 1: a self taught gardener and having followed her in my

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Speaker 1: passion for growing your own food and making it more

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Speaker 1: accessible firsthand, and originally planned this episode to be a

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Speaker 1: bit of a practical first step for anyone like me

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Speaker 1: keen to start growing some more veggies at home during lockdown,

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Speaker 1: But as you know, I like to let the conversation

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Speaker 1: there is a section covering some gardening myths and beginner hacks,

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Speaker 1: but there's also a beautiful story touching on grief and

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Speaker 1: next in the story at each point and can't believe

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Speaker 1: how much has come before her hugely successful chapter within

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Speaker 1: My Patch that now has nearly one hundred thousand followers

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Speaker 1: and students growing blossoming gardens all over the world. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy getting to know Sarah and her pug

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Speaker 1: pig as much as I did. Sarah, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm Seaprey excited that you are having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you're here, and like, this is

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Speaker 1: one of those really exciting episodes where we've both followed

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Speaker 1: to actually catch up now having been there for you know,

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Speaker 1: not like literally together obviously, but having watched a lot

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Speaker 1: I hear that this is your very first podcast. So

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I'm super excited. I guess you know

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Speaker 1: all the sort of earlier things that might have indicated

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is the coolest story I've heard

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Speaker 1: in a long time. Then you are a remarkable one.

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Speaker 2: Was a long way to the AA. Hey, that was

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Speaker 1: But they always are. And that's the thing. There's never

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Speaker 1: like two at least major like either periods of big grief,

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433
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Speaker 1: from burnout, and like I think you wouldn't wish for

435
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436
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438
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441
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444
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Speaker 2: Really, sometimes you just need to like be okay with

446
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Speaker 2: the bad. Like I'm a big believer of that when

447
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Speaker 2: bad things happen, it's leading you to somewhere that's going

448
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Speaker 2: to be better in the long run, Like you're going

449
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Speaker 2: to get to a better place eventually. It's definitely definitely

450
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Speaker 2: hasn't been easy, and it didn't just I didn't just

451
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Speaker 2: wake up one day and go, I want to inspire

452
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Speaker 2: people to grow food. It's happened from all the like

453
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Speaker 2: what you said, all the adversity, and like I said

454
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Speaker 2: earlier on the inklings were there that it wasn't till

455
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Speaker 2: twenty years later that I went outside growing food. I

456
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Speaker 2: guess also like helping other people. I guess. I don't know,

457
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Speaker 2: Like helping other people to grow food is sort of

458
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Speaker 2: I don't know, a little snippet of community. I'm not sure.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have grown a community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love my community, my community of beginner gardeners.

461
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Speaker 2: I love it so much. It makes me so happy.

462
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Speaker 2: And then who would I would never have thought that

463
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Speaker 2: a business would have formed from a hobby. Yeah, so

464
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Speaker 2: my hobby, start my garden. I love it. Wanted to

465
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Speaker 2: inspire people to grow food. And then over the last

466
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Speaker 2: couple of years, as I got more confident in the

467
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468
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Speaker 2: was like, I can actually help people. I can make

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Speaker 1: for anyone listening who has either faced grief or loss,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the last eighteen months to two years. I

506
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people are facing the loss of

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Speaker 1: relationships or other kinds of big emotional trauma. And also

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Speaker 1: people are facing rebuilding their identity. So like after your

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Speaker 1: physical breakdown, leaving a job, or leaving a set of

511
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Speaker 1: circumstances that cost you your peace or that really compromise

512
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Speaker 1: your well being, both of those things are kind of

513
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Speaker 1: quite topical themes at the moment, and you've rebuilt yourself

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Speaker 1: twice and probably more times in smaller instances. Is there

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Speaker 1: any advice you have for in the immediate how you

516
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Speaker 1: come out of those phases and how you rebuild yourself,

517
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Speaker 1: because I think it's clear now kind of how you

518
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Speaker 1: would cope because you've done all the work. But in

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Speaker 1: the healing phase, or the self doubt phase, or the

520
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Speaker 1: fear phase, or just the complete depletion phase, how do

521
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Speaker 1: you get through? How do you put one foot in

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Speaker 1: front of the other.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's such a good question, you know, looking back,

524
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Speaker 2: like it is a little bit of a blur. To

525
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Speaker 2: be honest, it all feels like a little bit of

526
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Speaker 2: a blur. I guess it's just showing up, showing up

527
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Speaker 2: every day, and it gets easier. So things do get

528
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Speaker 2: easier with time. Everything gets easier with time, And I

529
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Speaker 2: guess it's been kind to yourself as well. Surrounding yourself

530
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Speaker 2: with people who are really there for you and don't

531
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Speaker 2: waste your time with people who are not. I learned

532
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Speaker 2: that really early on, like really early on, when terrible

533
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Speaker 2: things happen, you really know who's there for you at

534
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Speaker 2: the end of the day. And I definitely lost like

535
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Speaker 2: a lot of friends in my early twenties when I

536
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Speaker 2: was going through grief because they weren't real friends. They

537
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Speaker 2: didn't know how to deal with me in that time.

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Speaker 2: So surround yourself with people who who are going to

539
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Speaker 2: be there for you really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's such a such a great piece of advice.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll often put a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: ourselves to just like get it together ourselves and not

543
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Speaker 1: phone a friend and lean on those around you, particularly

544
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Speaker 1: if you're you know, quite independent or you don't want

545
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Speaker 1: to feel like a burden, but you have to lean

546
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Speaker 1: on your support network for sure.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, And I guess do things that bring joy, find

548
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Speaker 2: you yay, and do things that you know, even if

549
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Speaker 2: you are miserable in that time, trying to find or

550
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Speaker 2: do things and they might not feel joyful at the time,

551
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Speaker 2: like you know, like I love going to the beach,

552
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Speaker 2: and when you're miserable, even going to the beach doesn't

553
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Speaker 2: necessarily bring you joy, but it's more then laying on

554
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Speaker 2: the couch. So keeping doing things that you love and

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Speaker 2: try not to lose lose those things. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: I would say.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. No, I think that's great advice, and particularly calling

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Speaker 1: out the fact that doing those things might not actually

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Speaker 1: feel good at the time, because nothing is going to

560
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Speaker 1: feel good, but it still is doing more for you

561
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Speaker 1: than not investing in those you know, little moments and

562
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Speaker 1: just staying inside. And in terms of now moving back

563
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Speaker 1: towards in my patch and the NATA sort of doubt

564
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Speaker 1: and comparison as you were starting to put yourself out

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Speaker 1: there and build a community in something again that you

566
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Speaker 1: were self taught in. I mean, you'd already done it

567
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Speaker 1: once with taking over this huge role that you didn't

568
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Speaker 1: actually think you were applying for. How have you managed

569
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Speaker 1: the doubt or like, you know, just that like vulnerability

570
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Speaker 1: hangover of when you actually like put a business out

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Speaker 1: there and then you're like, ah, oh my god, what

572
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Speaker 1: if it fails? What if people hate it? Like, as

573
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Speaker 1: you tell the story of how it actually became a business,

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Speaker 1: can you weave a little bit of the self doubt

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Speaker 1: chat in there?

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Speaker 2: Totally? I guess like when I first started growing food,

577
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that I wanted to inspire people, and I

578
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Speaker 2: guess it just started. I was bombarding my friends and

579
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Speaker 2: family with my veggie garden pictures and no one cared,

580
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Speaker 2: no one was interested. I'd like, check out my cauliflower

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Speaker 2: and they're like no, light, No, yeah, awesome, exciting life

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Speaker 2: you're living. And then I discovered the gardening community over

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Speaker 2: on Instagram. It was very small back then. It's much bigger.

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Speaker 2: It's much more popular now. But four or five years ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was pretty niche. There wasn't many people,

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Speaker 2: and it was quite like a kind of community over there.

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Speaker 2: It was really nice. Everyone was so friendly and well

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Speaker 2: it was a really sweet actually a lot of sweet people.

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Speaker 2: And so I just started, yeah, sharing photos because back

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Speaker 2: then Instagram was just photos. So I just started sharing.

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Speaker 2: And then as I got more confident, introduced stories. So

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Speaker 2: then I started, you know, sharing more stories and getting

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Speaker 2: my face on there a little bit. I think for

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Speaker 2: the first year and a half, I didn't show my

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Speaker 2: face at all on my page. And then I guess,

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Speaker 2: as I guess, it started to grow, like more people

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Speaker 2: were interested in it and people were asking questions. I'd

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Speaker 2: get a lot of questions about my garden. I started

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Speaker 2: sharing more video footage, and then once I guess, I

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Speaker 2: started aligning myself with brands. So I do have like

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Speaker 2: a really small handful of brands that I work with

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Speaker 2: where I do make an income. I guess that's when

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Speaker 2: I thought, wow, like I can actually do this as

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Speaker 2: a job. I could do this as a job. And

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Speaker 2: so over the last few years that's sort of how

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Speaker 2: it's mophed. But I guess what was the main I

607
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Speaker 2: guess what the main part was was when I decided

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do my first ebook, which was a

609
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Speaker 2: couple of years ago now, and that came from going, God,

610
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Speaker 2: books are hard, like why why do they make it

611
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Speaker 2: sound so hard? And so I kind of had this

612
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Speaker 2: moment where I want, I want to make it easier,

613
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Speaker 2: like I just want to make it easy for beginners.

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Speaker 2: And I think I sold it for like eight bucks.

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Speaker 2: My first e book was eight dollars, popped it up.

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Speaker 2: And definitely that self doubt of going like what if

617
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Speaker 2: it's shit?

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Speaker 1: Like what if?

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Speaker 2: What if it's shit? What if my information is wrong?

620
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Speaker 2: What if I'm wrong? What if everything I know about

621
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Speaker 2: growing food? Like what if I'm telling people the wrong stuff?

622
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Speaker 2: Like all the self doubt, and then you just have

623
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Speaker 2: to back yourself in. You have to believe in what

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Speaker 2: you're doing. If you don't believe in your your products

625
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: or your your mission, like you're going to fail. You

626
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Speaker 2: really have to believe in it because otherwise you just

627
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Speaker 2: get crippled by self doubt because it's it's there, and

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Speaker 2: you know, to be honest, I probably even like when

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Speaker 2: I first launched my membership so the Garden Moron's Club,

630
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Speaker 2: which I I love it's my favorite. I grapled, I

631
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Speaker 2: grappled with the name, the name Garda Mooron's Club, it's

632
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Speaker 2: the best. I was like, people, people going to be offended,

633
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Speaker 2: people going to be offended. You know, is this bad?

634
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Speaker 2: This is probably really bad marketing, like all of it.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to call it that. And this is

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Speaker 2: part of backing yourself in. I wanted to call it

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Speaker 2: that because one of the things I used to share

638
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Speaker 2: was my mistakes in the garden, and I used to

639
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Speaker 2: call them garden more on moments. So I was like, oh,

640
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Speaker 2: like more on moment, like this failed, that failed, like

641
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Speaker 2: this has died whatever. So it made sense to me

642
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Speaker 2: that I was going to call it the Garden Morons Club.

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Speaker 2: But it was scary, definitely. I remember my first doing

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Speaker 2: my first live, my first Facebook live. Do you know

645
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Speaker 2: I had to set up a Facebook account to do

646
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Speaker 2: the live because I'm not a Yes, I had to

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00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: set up a special one just for my customer is

648
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: because I'm not on Facebook. So being so terrified, like yeah,

649
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: it's so interesting. When you put your heart and soul

650
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: into something, there's a there's a chance that it could

651
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: fail and not everyone's going to like it. You know,

652
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: my courses and my programs are not for everyone. If

653
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: you're a professional gardener, you're going to hate my stuff.

654
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: If you're a beginner. If you're a beginner, you're gonna

655
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: love it. It's really going to help you grow food.

656
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: And that's what I had to I had to get

657
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: used to that going, you know what, this isn't for everybody,

658
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: and that's okay. You know people are you just kind

659
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: of You've got to not care what what other people

660
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: think to an extent.

661
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I love the idea that remembering that you're

662
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: never going to please everyone, but all you need to

663
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: please is your target market. And if you're pleasing them,

664
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: who cares? Like you're not aiming at exper's was and

665
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I love, Yeah, I love that reminder that you know

666
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: someone out there is looking for exactly what you're offering,

667
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: and you just need to push through the doubt and

668
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: trust that. You know it could go badly, but it

669
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: could go really well. And look how well it's gone.

670
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure you never expected it would grow to what

671
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: it has and continues to do.

672
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: That's like I often say, if you had asked me,

673
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: you know, five years ago that I would be on

674
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: your podcast, Sarah, you're going to be doing podcasts and

675
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: you're going to have a community, and you're going to

676
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: be doing live streams, and you're going to be making courses.

677
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: Like I would never have believed you. That was not

678
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: on the cards. I just sort of followed. It was

679
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: almost like a natural progression. But the passion is there.

680
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: I really want to help people to grow food. I

681
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: think everybody can grow something, and you don't have to

682
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: grow like the supermarket. I grow a bit of a supermarket.

683
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: You don't have to just like one or two things.

684
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: Start with just a few things, and then you can

685
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: share it. So if you've got a friend who's going

686
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: to grow cucumbers and tomatoes, and you guys are going

687
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: to grow the zucchinis and beans or whatever, and then

688
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: you can you're gonna have a glut. You're gonna have

689
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: a lot of food, and you can swap so you don't.

690
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great idea, like a club.

691
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: Your own little friends club.

692
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, your own little garden moron's club.

693
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the house you can Oh my.

694
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Gosh, let's move to the practical stuff. Then, so how

695
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: do you start. I think that's a great point of

696
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: saying you can start with one or two veggies. You

697
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: don't have to go straight to like every single item

698
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: that you ever eat. Maybe start with like, what are

699
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: the easiest plants to start with? Oh, do you know what?

700
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to ask me this? This

701
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: is something that lots of people ask. They're all they're

702
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: all about the same, really, yes or no. So lots

703
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: of people will saying greens is the easiest, growing lettuce

704
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: and greens is the easiest. But actually it's probably the

705
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: ones that people start with and they fail because they

706
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: miss the fundamentals which are really easy to get right,

707
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: like soil and planting them at the right time of

708
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: year and water. That sounds easy, but if you don't

709
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: know those things, it's the same amount of difficult as

710
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: growing cucumbers. So I think they're all pretty easy once

711
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: you know, like just the fundamentals, that's all you need

712
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: to know, really, But I will say carrots are hard.

713
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: Carrots are the hardest. So if you're a beginner, are

714
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: they really Yeah, carrots are super tricky to grow. They're

715
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: very particular. They're like really sandy soil, not too much

716
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: pooh at all, and lots of water but and lots

717
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: of sunshine, but they can go funky. They're really difficult

718
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: to grow, so avoid.

719
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Carrot my gosh, Okay, that's good.

720
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: If you join me, join my like. This is not

721
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: meant to be a say at all. I'm not trying

722
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: to sell you at all. Honestly, if you're a beginner gardener,

723
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: like my course is going to help you grow or

724
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: my Garden Morons Club will help you grow food, there's

725
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: a lot to get right. And the reason I wanted

726
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: to create them is because I don't want people to

727
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: give up. Like people try and grow food, it's very

728
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: easy to give up, and they just need to get

729
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: a few things right and then you'll be at it,

730
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: grow whatever you want. Really.

731
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what are the biggest mistakes that you see?

732
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: Is it the time of year? Because actually a question

733
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: we had, so I put out a little thing saying,

734
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: does anyone have any particular questions? And one of them

735
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: was when is the best time to plant things? And

736
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: I imagine timing would be a big mistake. What are

737
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: the other kind of big mistakes? And then how do

738
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: you figure out what the best time is? Is it

739
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: like seasonal or yeah? How do you work it out?

740
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? So definitely the biggest mistakes people make is growing

741
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: food at the wrong time. So let us is a

742
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: good one. We want to eat lettuce, we think that's

743
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: a summer thing, salads, let us. Let us actually grows

744
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: better in cooler in the cooler weather, and it's not

745
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: actually good for summer, which sucks because you want to

746
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: eat lettuce in summer, but you would in summer grow

747
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: things like cucumbers instead, So swap out your lettuce for

748
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: cucumbers or beans or tomatoes, succhinis, things like that grow

749
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: really well in summer. So definitely right time of year

750
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: is a big one. And the way I like to

751
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: try and keep it simple is just putting them in

752
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: cool weather veggies and warm weather veggies. So I think

753
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: there's a list on my blog. I think of warm

754
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: weather and cool weather veggies, and that's the easiest way

755
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: I find to separate them, just for ease.

756
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: Really, right, what about someone asks the best veggies that

757
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: will grow in pots on small balconies. So if you're

758
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: in a place where you can't build your own patch

759
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: in a yard, yes, but you do still want to

760
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: get through the garden. More on stage, what are some

761
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: that might be you know easy in smaller space.

762
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes, you can create anything in a pot as long

763
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: as it's a really sized pot. So it's choosing the

764
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: right size pot for your plant. I actually do have

765
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: a section on growing in courtyard guns in my course,

766
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: which will be helpful if you're in a small space.

767
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Is like a special section on small space growing. So

768
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: you can grow anything, like even corn, You can grow anything.

769
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I think this is white. It's so

770
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: interesting because just breaking down these ideas as well that

771
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: we have about like you need a farm, you need

772
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: a huge backyard, like I think those are the barriers

773
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: that stop people trying because they're like, oh I live

774
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: in an apartment. I'm never gonna have a vegetarch. That's

775
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: so cool.

776
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: You can have big pots, just a couple of big pots.

777
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: I actually have a video that I did that was

778
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: how much you can grow in just one meter, Like

779
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: I have a one meter bed and I squeezed in corn, beans, chicken, tomatoes, zicchini,

780
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: and basil all in a one minute space. So obviously

781
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: the only thing is if you're in a small space,

782
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: you've got two options. You can either grow a lot

783
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: of a few things, so you might just grow two

784
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: things and grow bulk or you grow a little bit

785
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: of a lot of things, but you're not going to

786
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: have like a glut of food to eat. So that's

787
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: the only thing with a small space is that yeah,

788
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: one thing and harvest a lot, or grow lots of

789
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: things and harvest a little of everything.

790
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: Right, Oh my gosh, And what about the I think

791
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: one of the memes going around is about how, yeah,

792
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to grow my own kale, but then like

793
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: the amount of kale that you eat per day, it

794
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: would take you months and months to grow, Like you

795
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: spend all this time growing out and then you just

796
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: eat it all in one day. How do you kind

797
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: of get into your cycle of growing time to eating,

798
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, so it's on demand?

799
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: So really so, say let's use kale for example. Kale

800
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: can grow for like years, have the one kale plant,

801
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: and if you feed it well and it's in the

802
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 2: right kind of environments and it's thriving, kale can get

803
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: like meters tall and be like almost like a kale tree.

804
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: They get huge that they need like really good soil

805
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: and really good food to do that. But in way

806
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: of having food on demand, I guess it's it's trying

807
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: to not plant everything at once. So if I've got

808
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: say a one meter space, and I want to grow

809
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: just lettuces and greens, I would try and plant say

810
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: six lettuces this week, and then six lettuces next week,

811
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: and just try and spread them out and don't plant

812
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: that whole space all at once, try and like not

813
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: be greedy and everything. It's really hard. Actually, you don't

814
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: want to see bear soil. You want to see it

815
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: full and beautiful. But if you want a constant supply, Oh.

816
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: My gosh, this is all so interesting. What are some

817
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: of the videos that you've done for anyone who sort

818
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: of interested in getting started or even just learning more

819
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: about the courses. One of the ones you did that

820
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting was a blind tasting video

821
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: to see if you could tell the difference between homegrown

822
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: and supermarket for the other one you mentioned was you

823
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: know about the one meter Like, are there any other

824
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: kind of you know, key entry level videos to sort

825
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: of show what you do?

826
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that there's a lot on my page. There's

827
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: someone soil. I try and be as informational as possible.

828
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: Of course, we don't wanted to.

829
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: Give the whole away, and I don't want to upset

830
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: my customers either, who are paying pay to do the

831
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: course that I have lots of tips on my page

832
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: from soil or watch plant when spacing, how to deal

833
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: with pests. There's all sorts on there.

834
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. What would you say are the things that

835
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: people are continually surprised about, like newcomers to your course

836
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: that just blows their mind, Like even the fact that

837
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the color change in certain plants, or

838
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: just things that people don't know until they're into it,

839
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: like until they have their own patch.

840
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I'm going to say how

841
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: good the food tastes if you haven't tasted food fresh

842
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: from the garden, like our food from the souper muney

843
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: is so sad it is. I hate it so much,

844
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: And I know it's what we used to We're used

845
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: to eating it. We don't really think anything of it.

846
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: We think, ye, shecumbers are supposed to taste this way,

847
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: but they're actually gross. When't you grow at home, they're

848
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: gonna be so crunchy like and sweeter and just like

849
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: not floppy floppy in that taste test video, like me

850
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: turning my nose up at my strawberry, Like, I looked

851
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: at that video after you said, oh, you did a

852
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: taste test video, and I had a look at it.

853
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, that was ages ago.

854
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: I had to look at it. I was like my face,

855
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: I was like, I looked rappol.

856
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so interesting. And so does the

857
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: program like do they have different time periods? Is it

858
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: an ongoing membership or do you have like courses that

859
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: start at a particular time and then go through for

860
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: a certain amount of weeks, Like how's it structured?

861
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So my two main ones, so my garden Moron's Club,

862
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: which is my membership. So that's like a monthly a

863
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: monthly thing, and you follow along with me in the

864
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: garden each week, and I go live each week for

865
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: I call it wine Time, but it's basically like a

866
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: live Q and A so I call it line time.

867
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: And my course, I Grow Your Patch course. It was

868
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: a year in the making and it's six months long,

869
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: and that feels like a long time, but it's because

870
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: it's filmed week by week, so you can't fail. So

871
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: you've got less chance of failing any kind of course

872
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: that you do. In growing food, it's going to be

873
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: like a like a six week course or a two

874
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: week course or a three month course. But the thing

875
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: is most of our food, or a lot of our

876
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: food takes longer, can take longer to grow than that.

877
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: And you're gonna they're going to tell you all this information,

878
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to retain it to

879
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: actually implement it. Whereas with mine, it's week by week

880
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: and it's just a few steps each week for you

881
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: to do, so it's manageable if you work full time.

882
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: I've had people do it who work full time and

883
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: still manage to grow veggiegarden, So they're the two kind

884
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: of options really. So the course is you do it

885
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: in your own time, and it's suitable for anybody around

886
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: the world. Obviously I have customers all around the world,

887
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 2: and that start times are different depending on where you live.

888
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: So my customers in America will be starting the course

889
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: in like March April next year, whereas if you're in

890
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: a Australia, like now's a great time to start it

891
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: because we're just coming into spring, so it's a spring

892
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: summer course. Really. You learn how to grow spring and

893
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: summer veggies in a small space, so it's only in

894
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: two beds, so you only need or a courtyard. It

895
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: includes a courtyard as well, but you only need a

896
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 2: really small space like two meter beds. And we grow

897
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: like ten different things. So wow, they're both different.

898
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Oh my gosh. Oh, I just it makes me.

899
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: Nothing makes me happier than seeing someone who's found the

900
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: ya and then is able to share that with other people,

901
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: and how excited they get. Your face when you're doing

902
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: your videos is so excited, like your passion for what

903
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: you're doing just jumps out so clearly. I love it

904
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: so much.

905
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: Thank you. You know, when people ask you what you

906
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: do and you're like, oh, you know, I grow food

907
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: or whatever, it's like people think gardening's boring for old people.

908
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm not old. Hey, no, Yeah.

909
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I think you're doing a lot to change that perception

910
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: as well.

911
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's definitely a lot of a lot

912
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 2: of younger people growing food, especially with COVID and being

913
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: home more so. And I guess like all that craziness

914
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: with the supermarkets like last year kind of yeah, frightened.

915
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: I think it frightened a lot of people, and the

916
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: thought of being able to go shopping in your gardens

917
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: a little more appealing these plays shopping at the shop.

918
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely well. The very last section is your playta, which

919
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: when you do what you love and love what you

920
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: do gets a little bit blurry. But I also think

921
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: it's really important to have some joys that aren't related

922
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: to work so that your brain can get some distance

923
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: and some downtime. So are there any sort of hobbies

924
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: or things you do that you know make you forget

925
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: what time it is? Or is it just gardening.

926
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: That's so hard? I mean, I I've got my business

927
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: training wheels on. So I'm only just trying to put

928
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: my boundaries in now because there was a time where

929
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 2: I was like didn't have a I didn't have space

930
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: to have time off, or didn't have time off social media.

931
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: Just sort of like dipping my toe and going, oh,

932
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: it's actually really nice to have a day off social media,

933
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: or it's nice to have do other things. So I

934
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: love a panther. I love that I have a nice

935
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: like soak and do a little facial and like I

936
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: like to do that.

937
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: I love so nice.

938
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: Beach, anything outside like paddle boarding or spending the day

939
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: at the beach. I could spend the day at the

940
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: beach easily if I have some shade. As long as

941
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: I have shade and food, I could spend the day

942
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: at the beach.

943
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: You take your little veggies to the beach for a

944
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: little out, take snacks.

945
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: Puzzles beautiful. Puzzles are good.

946
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: I loved so meditative totally.

947
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: You get right in the zone. That's definitely a good

948
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: time forget your time when you're doing a puzzle, for.

949
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, for sure. Second last question, what are three

950
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: interesting things about you that don't normally come up in conversation, which,

951
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: considering this is your first podcast, it's probably everything that

952
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: you've said today, But are there any that don't like

953
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: your friends wouldn't know, or like weird like sleepwalking or

954
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: anything quirky?

955
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: Hmmmm. I can speak a little bit of Tie. I

956
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: know you speak a little languages Tie. Yeah. Do you

957
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 2: speak Thai? No?

958
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: I can't. It's like all I can say, oh.

959
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, extremely, extremely it's limit that would be enough to

960
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: like get.

961
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: By, like just wow, yes, that's cool. That's such a

962
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: random language. Did you live there? Did you spend some

963
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: time in Thailand?

964
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: I've spent a lot of time in Thailand, and my

965
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: dad lives over there, so wow. Yeah. So I've been

966
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: to Thailand about maybe five times, so I can speak

967
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't know when I'm getting back

968
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: there anytime soon.

969
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: Oh I know, but that's so cool. Oh my god,

970
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: that's a really good one.

971
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think your language repertoire is huge, isn't it.

972
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I just they're my yay, Like, languages just do something

973
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: to my brain.

974
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

975
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: Always since I was really young, since primary school, I've

976
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: always studied two and then at UNI three, they're just wow.

977
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I think it's I

978
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: think it's because I'm so fascinated by humanity and the

979
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: human condition that the way that a language structure reflects

980
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: a way that a culture thinks about the world. And

981
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: then what you can learn from learning to converse with

982
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: other people, I don't know. And it's all kind of

983
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: a puzzle as well, like putting all the bits together.

984
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just yeah, it's my yay. Makes

985
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: me so excited. Like if I could go back to

986
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: UNI and not have to pay hex for every course

987
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: I did, and not do the exams, I just learn languages. Wow,

988
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: if that was a job, I'd just do it.

989
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: Like a translator.

990
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like I wouldn't necessarily want to

991
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: do anything with it.

992
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: I just want to.

993
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: Learn just so I can speak. Yeah, not necessarily like

994
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: help people translate documents, but just know how to understand.

995
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so weird.

996
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: I think it's cool. It's definitely, it's definitely a skill.

997
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things that once, once you

998
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: learn it, it's in there.

999
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And once you learn one and get used to

1000
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: the patterns, I feel like you can see those patterns

1001
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: in other languages even when the pattern changes, like it's

1002
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: your brain can kind of it's hard to explain, but

1003
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: I love them. It's like I'll go to a country

1004
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: and then spend a couple of days figuring out the block,

1005
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: the building blocks, and then it'll just click and I'll

1006
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: be able to have a conversation. So cool. That is

1007
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: a gig. I mean not I mean, not like a

1008
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: proper deep conversation. But it's in the dictionary.

1009
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. That's a skill that is a talent

1010
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: or a gift.

1011
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: Oh, that's lovely of you. And very last question, what's

1012
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: your favorite quote?

1013
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: Oh? I was going to say something super cheesy.

1014
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: Cheesey is great. You know me, I'm cheesetawl.

1015
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: Like the grass is greener where you water, because obviously

1016
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm a gardener. But that's the that I feel like,

1017
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: it's so true, and I think it's something that I've

1018
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: learned from neglecting. We didn't get to touch on this,

1019
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: but neglecting a lot of other stuff in my life

1020
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: because of in my patch and because of building the

1021
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: business and letting a lot of like you know, like

1022
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: falling down maybe in my relationships to focus on the business.

1023
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: So you got to borter out. You got to find

1024
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: time to water a little bit of everything that's important

1025
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 2: to you. So I'm trying to learn to keep equal

1026
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: amounts of water to things to keep things balanced.

1027
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh I love that, And I also love that quote

1028
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: as it applies to sort of the burden we put

1029
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: on ourselves of comparing our life to other people as well. Yes,

1030
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: it's always being distracted by oh, look how well they're doing,

1031
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: or look what they're doing. I should be doing that

1032
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: and knowing that every time you're spending your energy on

1033
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: someone else's life, you're watering their garden and ignoring your own.

1034
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: And if you just put all that energy and time

1035
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: into your own life. It would blossom even more because

1036
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: you know you have a finite amount of time and energy,

1037
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: So the only thing that's worthy of investing it is

1038
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: in your world, not in like everyone else.

1039
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: Totally. And also you can choose what you water. You

1040
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: can choose what you want to put your effort and

1041
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: your love and your joy and like what you want

1042
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: to put your energy into.

1043
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, Sarah, thank you so much. I cannot believe

1044
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: this was your first part.

1045
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for having me.

1046
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: You was so articulate.

1047
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 2: That was pig what you wanted to she She ended

1048
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: with a bang, a literal bang. What did she do?

1049
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: You took out my lighting?

1050
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she did so well the whole episode.

1051
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: She did so well. And she's come on now she's going.

1052
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I love to meet her. Oh my gosh, I

1053
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: knew that she had to make an appearance at some point.

1054
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at that.

1055
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: It's nearly forty. Because she's really old. So her real

1056
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: name's jet Hat little girl. She's so sweet, she's so old,

1057
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: and she's deaf. She's deaf. Oh I can't see that

1058
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: great anymore. But she still manages to steal food, don't

1059
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: you Grannie, My god, look at it.

1060
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: She's like mm hmmm.

1061
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1062
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: Oh, Sarah, thank you so much. This was absolutely wonderful.

1063
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing your story and for

1064
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: the first time. I mean, it's just been such a privilege.

1065
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Thank you for having me.

1066
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: And I'll make sure to pop links to the Garden

1067
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Mourns Club and the course and your page and everything

1068
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: in the show notes.

1069
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: Thank you. That would be amazing. Thank you.

1070
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: What an interesting, human and fascinating story. This one could

1071
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: have gone on for hours and hours. I found it

1072
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: so hard not to keep digging into every little detail,

1073
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: especially as we were so lucky to have Sarah for

1074
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: her first ever podcast. Do go check her out and

1075
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: shower her with some love. If you enjoyed the episode,

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Speaker 1: tagging in my patch and sees they so we can

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Speaker 1: reshare and keep growing the neighborhood. I almost can't fathom

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Speaker 1: that there's been an earthquake, among many other increasingly crazy

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Speaker 1: things happened since our last episode, So do stay safe

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Speaker 1: and look after yourself between now and the next one.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're all finding ways to seize your ya