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Speaker 1: is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to this bill,

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Speaker 1: your daily pop culture fix.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laura Brodney and I'm m Vernon.

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Speaker 1: And coming up on the show today, Kim Kardashian has

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Speaker 1: given a bit of a tell all interview talking about

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Speaker 1: some of her biggest scandals. We've got thoughts, We've got feedback,

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Speaker 1: We've got conspiracy, the feedback. I could talk about this

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Speaker 1: for hours. We're going to get into it. Plus, our

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Speaker 1: other fave, Gwyneth Paltrow has given a little chat to Vogue.

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Speaker 1: She's a shaded, a famous writer. She's commented on Timothy

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Speaker 1: Charalamae Kylie Jenna's relationship. We're going to get into it.

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Speaker 2: I'm my favorite, a lister who knows nothing about the industry.

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Speaker 1: He knows nothing about the world around her. Here's a

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Speaker 1: little teaser for you. Two words tongue choreography. We're going

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Speaker 1: to get well, we're going to be talking about it,

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Speaker 1: so Girdas, I.

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Speaker 2: Even got your loins ready for that.

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Speaker 1: But first you have some other Kim Kardashian News.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of getting your loins.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it actually did mean to do that.

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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian Breaking News has launched a brand new product

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Speaker 2: through her brand Skims. We all know Skims. They do

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Speaker 2: the shapewear. She loves getting Internet people and celebrities on

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Speaker 2: to model her lingerie. She's launched a product called the

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Speaker 2: Ultimate Bush. The technical term is the faux hair micro

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Speaker 2: string thong. So basically she's launched a bunch of different underwears,

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Speaker 2: apparently twelve different types lovely of thongs that have synthetic

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Speaker 2: pubic hair on the front.

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Speaker 1: So it's like three d ra I wish we had

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Speaker 1: one here that we could like hold in her hands.

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Speaker 1: But it's like you can like run your hair. It's

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Speaker 1: not a painting of hair. Yea's like actual hair, synthetic

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Speaker 1: hair taped on.

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Speaker 2: There's two different variations, so there's straight hair or curly hair.

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Speaker 1: Nice have heard and think of those two different options.

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Speaker 2: And there's also like twelve different I think colors is

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Speaker 2: that's the.

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Speaker 1: Right word to match? You could wear a yeah one

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Speaker 1: every day for like exactly.

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Speaker 2: And the reason there's so many different colors is because

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Speaker 2: the whole like slogan of this brand campaign is that

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Speaker 2: your carpet can be whatever color you want.

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Speaker 1: That's lovely. Which one would you pick if you had

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Speaker 1: to like take one for a ride. Were you going

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Speaker 1: through and looking at the colors? Should we get some swatches? Well?

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Speaker 2: I actually thought the red looked really nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun.

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Speaker 2: But then I talked to my friend who's a natural ginger,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, that's not authentic to ginger people. Oh

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Speaker 2: so she actually didn't do her research that Well wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: well what color would you pick?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You want to go something you weren't?

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Speaker 1: You weren't, So maybe I try the red or the blonde.

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Speaker 2: What if we're like on a date and we forget

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Speaker 2: we're wearing it, we're wearing it as a joke and

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Speaker 1: That would be scary you fear for just a second,

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Speaker 1: or you have a little little laugh about it. That

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Speaker 1: would be a job That Puby care is obviously funny,

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Speaker 1: but having an underwear with like fake Pubby Hares stitched

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Speaker 2: It is a bit funny. But also I once dated

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Speaker 2: this is such a segue. I would state that a

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Speaker 2: man who had like dark dark brown hair like probably

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Speaker 1: Oh, I did not know where that was going. I

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Speaker 2: I stopped. You can probably guess what was further down,

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Speaker 1: No, But what color was it further down? Did the

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Speaker 2: It was kind of it was kind of like a

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, interesting, Yeah, see yeah, puby hair comes in

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Speaker 1: all different colors and shades. I know some people are

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Speaker 1: Kim Kudashian does not that like pubic hair is like

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Speaker 1: Want it back, you could eat one of these.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's kind back because I got off the pill

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Speaker 2: and it was like, hey, well but it's like patch,

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Speaker 1: Like a full coverage like one of these.

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Speaker 2: I feel like with the Bush, you have to go

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Speaker 2: when you're in that in between stage where you're like

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Speaker 1: No, you need to go full book.

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Speaker 2: It's comfy, like it's nice, it's gentle.

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Speaker 1: It's gentle. Not you do it just like sold out

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Speaker 1: mean that's the whole kind of point of these. Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 2: It's like a shock value campaign.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's two sides of it. So I think

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Speaker 1: with this kind of thing, I've seen like a few

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Speaker 1: in like the non binary or transgender community say that

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Speaker 1: like things like this on the market that help you

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Speaker 1: or like self affirmed gender are really nice and there's

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Speaker 1: lots of places that sell different things like this that

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Speaker 1: aren't sort of like a gimmick. But obviously there's also

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Speaker 1: like a gimmick factor with skins because Kim Kardashian loves

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Speaker 1: a viral moment about herself and her company. So as

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Speaker 1: you were saying, she often gets in, like whoever is

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Speaker 1: Like when Sabrina Cartmaner was having a moment, she got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly when they were like kissing everywhere, She's like

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Speaker 2: And it works right because, like Emma Greed has talked

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Speaker 2: They did the exact same thing with the nipple bra,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, the last time I talked about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we all start talking about so the nipple bra,

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Speaker 1: only do a really small drop of stoff, which is

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Speaker 1: why they sell out really quickly. But while everyone's on

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, are we gonna get some tried and tested?

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Speaker 1: Well they've sold out.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I find a way we.

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Speaker 1: Make her own little arts and graphs corner the spill

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Speaker 1: Ultimate Bush. Yeah, you guys can buy our line. Do

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Speaker 1: you have any old toys you want to cut up

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Speaker 1: or anything like that? Or but I've got so many

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Speaker 1: They're real human hair. Maybe that's worse. Maybe that's worth

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Speaker 1: on this line. We're we're not very good business with it.

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Speaker 1: Stay tunned, Lana Well, speaking of Kim Kardashian, just the

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Speaker 1: When she goes hard with Press, she goes hard. She

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Speaker 1: knows that when she's got products to It's almost like

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Speaker 1: Then you're helping. I feel like in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian, that's just like how good business people.

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Speaker 2: And she always does it when another sister's doing something.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they're always all doing things.

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Speaker 2: But Kylie Jenna just released on music video singing for

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Speaker 1: I know, but there wears I'm in singings.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not her debut. We all know her

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Speaker 1: It's not like the first time you game on this

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Speaker 1: bringing that segment back. That was fun. It was just

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Speaker 2: You know how much like time and preparation I put

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Speaker 2: And then you choose them, and then I go away

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Speaker 1: really Kimcutshion who's taken over the new cycle. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean we covered Kylie a lot this week, Like she

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Speaker 1: had her moment, she had the video, she had the song,

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Speaker 1: she had the launch of her ten year collection.

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Speaker 2: But I think got her fair share of spill coverage.

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Speaker 1: Yes she did. But at the moment, it's all about

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Speaker 1: Kimberly Noel Kardashian and her many projects.

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Speaker 2: So she went on the call I going to say,

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Speaker 2: and her many husbands and many a lot of this

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Speaker 1: Yes, she wanted to call her Daddy podcast. It's almost

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Speaker 1: like she'll do any podcast. At the moment, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is that a spoiler for something coming up?

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Speaker 2: Poooo?

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Speaker 1: Who could say? Anyway, she went to call her Daddy podcast,

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Speaker 1: from a very young age, that their father is someone

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Speaker 1: who travels all the time, lives in different cities, works

433
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Speaker 1: on different projects. So I think she was trying to say, like,

434
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Speaker 1: it's not like he's it's not jarring.

435
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

436
00:18:02,944 --> 00:18:04,464
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was trying to say, like he just works

437
00:18:04,464 --> 00:18:06,384
Speaker 1: away and the kids know that and stuff. But it

438
00:18:06,504 --> 00:18:08,384
Speaker 1: was very yeah, and even talking about like some of

439
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Speaker 1: the stuff that would kind of happen his mood swings

440
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Speaker 1: that she has talked a little bit about before. And

441
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Speaker 1: I think I wonder if she is so aware of

442
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Speaker 1: that documentary that came out. You know, we talked about

443
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Speaker 1: the fact that all that footage came out of him

444
00:18:21,304 --> 00:18:23,904
Speaker 1: screaming at her and her sobbing, which is something we

445
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Speaker 1: would never see on the Kardashians. I wonder if because

446
00:18:27,224 --> 00:18:29,024
Speaker 1: all that footage is out in the world, that she

447
00:18:29,104 --> 00:18:31,544
Speaker 1: maybe felt a little bit more emboldened to speak about

448
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Speaker 1: what happened in their marriage. It gave her permission because

449
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Speaker 1: she was saying things like she'd wake up every day

450
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Speaker 1: just not knowing what he was going to do. She said,

451
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Speaker 1: they had all these Lamborghini cars, and she came out

452
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Speaker 1: one day and they were just all gone, yeah, which

453
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Speaker 1: I know is obviously not a problem most people have,

454
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Speaker 1: but I think it's like you could put that in

455
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Speaker 1: anyone's kind of life of something and there.

456
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Speaker 2: Like imagine if like she saw that while she was

457
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Speaker 2: taking the kids to school and they just didn't have

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Speaker 2: any cars and.

459
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Speaker 1: He had just given away to all these friends, and

460
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Speaker 1: then like he got the cars back, then he gave

461
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Speaker 1: him away again. And I don't think it's about the cars.

462
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Speaker 1: It's about I think that's probably just maybe the safest

463
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Speaker 1: thing she could say. I think it was she was

464
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Speaker 1: just saying, like every day I was living with a

465
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Speaker 1: different person. I never knew what he was going to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the fact that she always felt like she

467
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Speaker 2: was being blamed for it, Like she even talked about

468
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Speaker 2: how people would say that he only started going through

469
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Speaker 2: this when he married her. I'm like, that is so

470
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Speaker 2: harmful to say to someone, especially someone who exactly what

471
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Speaker 2: you said. She says, I'm a partner, I will go

472
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Speaker 2: through it with you. And they were together for years,

473
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Speaker 2: like over a decade, and they had four children together,

474
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Speaker 2: and it's exactly what she said. It's not a failed relationship,

475
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Speaker 2: like they still have relationship.

476
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Speaker 1: It's just different Oh yeah, I don't think fifteen years

477
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Speaker 1: and four kids is a failed relationship.

478
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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 1: Look, I was out here defending all like Nicole and

480
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Speaker 1: Keith and now Kim and Kanne and defending them. Yeah. Overall,

481
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Speaker 1: it was like I thought it was like a super

482
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Speaker 1: interesting interview, and you know, I thought it was so cute.

483
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Speaker 1: This is something I just really love about Kim Kutter.

484
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Speaker 1: She is how much she just believes in true love.

485
00:19:50,904 --> 00:19:54,384
Speaker 1: Shed she married, She's she was having a custom wedding

486
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Speaker 1: dress made by one of her favorite designers, just to

487
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Speaker 1: have in case had happened. And she's after she and

488
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Speaker 1: Kanye split up, she renovated the house that they had

489
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Speaker 1: built together, and she built a wardrobe in her bedroom

490
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Speaker 1: for her future husband because she wanted to make sure

491
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Speaker 1: that she talks it in this interview, the fact that

492
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Speaker 1: she's been single for a long time, and North really

493
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Speaker 1: rags on her for it.

494
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Speaker 2: You're not like, might be getting old, you need to

495
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Speaker 2: start getting married.

496
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Speaker 1: But she also said some of the nice ways She's like, Mom,

497
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Speaker 1: it's okay if you want to date someone like kind

498
00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:23,944
Speaker 1: of you know, kind of thing. But I just think

499
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Speaker 1: that's that's really sweet that she's got like she's got

500
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Speaker 1: the wedding dress ready to go. She's got the wardrobe

501
00:20:28,384 --> 00:20:29,744
Speaker 1: for this guy to share, ready to go.

502
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Speaker 2: See it's cool and she does it. If I did it, No.

503
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Speaker 1: It would be cool if you did it. She also

504
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:37,064
Speaker 1: like her person's out there. I think that's really nice.

505
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,064
Speaker 2: It is nice. It's really cool when she says it.

506
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Speaker 1: I think you need to go get a wedding dress

507
00:20:41,864 --> 00:20:44,104
Speaker 1: made and build an extra closet in your home and

508
00:20:44,184 --> 00:20:47,704
Speaker 1: like do the Kim Kardashian manifesting way of life of like,

509
00:20:47,784 --> 00:20:49,104
Speaker 1: if you build it, he will come.

510
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Speaker 2: Okay, you got mean.

511
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Speaker 1: So we've really been blessed with some fun interviews this week.

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Speaker 1: Moving on to our good power Gwyneth Paltrow, who has

513
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Speaker 1: done an interview with Vogue magazine and one of the

514
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Speaker 1: first things that the writer asked her about, which she

515
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Speaker 1: has talked a little bit about but not in depth

516
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Speaker 1: since it came out, is the Gwyneth Paltrow biography that

517
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Speaker 1: she declined to be interviewed for, written by Amy O'Dell.

518
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Speaker 1: What do you mean she declined to be Amy Odell

519
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Speaker 1: who wrote the Anna Wintour biography, And it's like a

520
00:21:21,824 --> 00:21:24,464
Speaker 1: really want no one celebrity biographer. She wrote a book

521
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Speaker 1: about Gwyneth Paltrow, and she reached out to Gwenny's team

522
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Speaker 1: and Gwyneth didn't want to be interviewed, which just happened

523
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Speaker 1: quite a bit. So obviously Amy wrote the book just

524
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Speaker 1: speaking to people, but no one in Gwenno's immediate circle

525
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Speaker 1: and not Gwenneth herself. And up until now she said

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Speaker 1: that she's been like a little bit unbothered by it.

527
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Speaker 1: But the journalist said, it's the only time in this

528
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Speaker 1: whole long ranging interview where he's like, she dropped her

529
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Speaker 1: signature mirth and her frustration showed through. She said she

530
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Speaker 1: didn't read it, but her husband, Brad Brad read it well,

531
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Speaker 1: she said. She said he skimmed through it.

532
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Speaker 2: He read it, He read it. He's so rare. I mean,

533
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Speaker 2: I'm sure read it and memorized it.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. At first he was just looking for

535
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Speaker 1: her because she didn't want to read it, and he

536
00:22:05,264 --> 00:22:06,864
Speaker 1: was like, babe, i'll read it and i'll tell you

537
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Speaker 1: if there's anything we can sue for. And he picked

538
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Speaker 1: it up and you just know he's pretending to flick

539
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Speaker 1: through it. And the moment she went out to her

540
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Speaker 1: garden to get some kale.

541
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Speaker 2: He was like, the minute she went to the garden,

542
00:22:16,144 --> 00:22:20,224
Speaker 2: he is like turning on the bathwater. Yeah, sleeping in there,

543
00:22:20,384 --> 00:22:23,624
Speaker 2: putting his glasses on, glass of wine. He's enjoying that book.

544
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Speaker 1: So this is what she said to Vogue about it.

545
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Speaker 1: So the writer said that he didn't want to say

546
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Speaker 1: anything bad about another writer, but you can tell that

547
00:22:29,384 --> 00:22:32,224
Speaker 1: he didn't like it either. And then he said to Gwyneth, like,

548
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Speaker 1: what do you think? And she said boring with a

549
00:22:35,344 --> 00:22:38,704
Speaker 1: devastating indifference. That's how the writer said. She said it.

550
00:22:39,224 --> 00:22:41,784
Speaker 1: And then she said, so my husband flicked through it

551
00:22:42,424 --> 00:22:44,664
Speaker 1: because I was like, what the hell is this? And

552
00:22:44,704 --> 00:22:47,424
Speaker 1: then he said this is so she's she's saying that.

553
00:22:47,464 --> 00:22:51,144
Speaker 1: Brad said this okay. Brad said, it's as if somebody

554
00:22:51,224 --> 00:22:55,064
Speaker 1: put a prompt into chat GPT and said, mine every

555
00:22:55,184 --> 00:22:58,344
Speaker 1: daily mail article and write a biography about Gwyneth Paltrow.

556
00:22:58,864 --> 00:23:01,944
Speaker 1: She totally missed everything, the truth of who I am

557
00:23:02,024 --> 00:23:04,744
Speaker 1: and what my impact is. And he was like, it's bad.

558
00:23:04,824 --> 00:23:07,784
Speaker 1: It's really badly written. And then she said, I saw

559
00:23:07,824 --> 00:23:10,304
Speaker 1: all the stuff in People magazine and other outlets. Sat

560
00:23:10,384 --> 00:23:12,704
Speaker 1: picked it up and it was all rubbish. The things

561
00:23:12,704 --> 00:23:16,864
Speaker 1: that I supposedly said, wait a minute, what do you Yeah,

562
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Speaker 1: what's your thought on that.

563
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:19,544
Speaker 2: She didn't contest it?

564
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure she wasn't going to go through and

565
00:23:21,024 --> 00:23:24,384
Speaker 1: say yes and no. But I think, like, yeah, she's

566
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Speaker 1: obviously not. She's just saying that. It's basically she's saying,

567
00:23:26,984 --> 00:23:29,944
Speaker 1: there's so much juicier stuff, but you guys don't order

568
00:23:30,024 --> 00:23:33,624
Speaker 1: a ship rider. I mean, yeah, this is not true. Well,

569
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, Gwyneth, if you say you've lived

570
00:23:35,384 --> 00:23:37,584
Speaker 1: a bigger life and there's juicier stuff than where is it?

571
00:23:37,624 --> 00:23:39,984
Speaker 2: Well we know she where's a bigger life. She just forgets.

572
00:23:40,544 --> 00:23:42,224
Speaker 1: She does forget. She forgets, like I.

573
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Speaker 2: Always think about that interview. No she did that like

574
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Speaker 2: cooking thing with John Farrow. Yeah, she like completely forgot

575
00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,024
Speaker 2: she was in Spider Man.

576
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Speaker 1: That is I mean.

577
00:23:49,984 --> 00:23:52,304
Speaker 2: And he's like, Gwyneth, we acted together, and she's like, no,

578
00:23:52,384 --> 00:23:54,784
Speaker 2: we did it. She was so certain she was not

579
00:23:54,904 --> 00:23:55,664
Speaker 2: in Spider Man.

580
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Speaker 1: It is so funny because, Okay, my only defense of

581
00:23:58,464 --> 00:24:01,504
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I actually think

582
00:24:01,504 --> 00:24:04,304
Speaker 1: she's quite good in it. But they film a lot

583
00:24:04,304 --> 00:24:07,464
Speaker 1: of that stuff secretly out of order. So if she

584
00:24:07,504 --> 00:24:09,464
Speaker 1: gets told that she's got to go to a secret

585
00:24:09,504 --> 00:24:14,184
Speaker 1: location and film a scene with Robert Downey Jr. I

586
00:24:14,224 --> 00:24:17,304
Speaker 1: do understand that in her mind she does, and it's

587
00:24:17,344 --> 00:24:20,624
Speaker 1: filmed years before anything comes out. I do understand that

588
00:24:20,744 --> 00:24:24,384
Speaker 1: in her mind she doesn't know which movie or scene

589
00:24:24,424 --> 00:24:25,344
Speaker 1: that's fitting into.

590
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Speaker 2: I don't even think she knows how she's related to

591
00:24:27,464 --> 00:24:28,984
Speaker 2: Robbie do No, I know.

592
00:24:28,984 --> 00:24:32,424
Speaker 1: She does it at all. It's funny because in that when.

593
00:24:32,424 --> 00:24:34,024
Speaker 2: He's like dying on the ground and she's like, I

594
00:24:34,104 --> 00:24:36,144
Speaker 2: think I'm your sister, You're like, no, you'll.

595
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Speaker 1: Love it, Emily. That's a really important scene. She's a

596
00:24:38,784 --> 00:24:40,824
Speaker 1: great actress in it. She knew what was happening.

597
00:24:41,024 --> 00:24:42,344
Speaker 2: She has no idea what's happening.

598
00:24:42,424 --> 00:24:46,344
Speaker 1: She knows her characters. She knows Pepper's connection to Ironman,

599
00:24:46,464 --> 00:24:49,224
Speaker 1: but nothing else. That's what I think it is, because

600
00:24:49,304 --> 00:24:55,624
Speaker 1: these flues, it's the adventurepecially because you know, especially because

601
00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:58,024
Speaker 1: they're all just in the dots and stuff. Very few

602
00:24:58,024 --> 00:24:59,864
Speaker 1: of them are in their costumes. So she's like, who's

603
00:24:59,864 --> 00:25:00,704
Speaker 1: that random man?

604
00:25:01,224 --> 00:25:03,344
Speaker 2: And Chris Evans like hey, gwenned and she's like hi.

605
00:25:03,984 --> 00:25:06,144
Speaker 1: She does that all the time, and the only person.

606
00:25:06,184 --> 00:25:08,544
Speaker 1: So yeah, in that cooking clip you're talking about where

607
00:25:08,584 --> 00:25:10,824
Speaker 1: he's like, we're in Spider Man. She's like no, and

608
00:25:10,864 --> 00:25:12,984
Speaker 1: he's like, no spider Man. He's like, I make the

609
00:25:13,024 --> 00:25:15,544
Speaker 1: movies I know. And she's like, I wasn't in a

610
00:25:15,544 --> 00:25:17,664
Speaker 1: Spider Man movie. It's a girl. You're actually quite a

611
00:25:17,664 --> 00:25:17,984
Speaker 1: big part.

612
00:25:18,104 --> 00:25:20,384
Speaker 2: You were. You were a massive role in that. You

613
00:25:20,504 --> 00:25:21,984
Speaker 2: were like a mentor to people.

614
00:25:22,424 --> 00:25:24,984
Speaker 1: So all the other Avengers just laugh it off when

615
00:25:25,064 --> 00:25:29,984
Speaker 1: Gwenneth doesn't know who they are, except Sebastian Stan. Sebastian

616
00:25:30,104 --> 00:25:33,184
Speaker 1: Stan gets so angry because they were at an event

617
00:25:33,224 --> 00:25:35,264
Speaker 1: together and they were filmed and she says hello to him,

618
00:25:35,264 --> 00:25:36,904
Speaker 1: and he's like being really nice to her. He's like, hey,

619
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Speaker 1: my co star and I've been in so many movies

620
00:25:40,344 --> 00:25:40,864
Speaker 1: with He's.

621
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Speaker 2: Like remember my name.

622
00:25:41,464 --> 00:25:43,504
Speaker 1: Remember and she's like we should work together and he's.

623
00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,984
Speaker 2: Like, we have worked together eight movies together.

624
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Speaker 1: And then another time they were at a different event

625
00:25:48,544 --> 00:25:51,144
Speaker 1: and she was introduced herself on camera and she's like,

626
00:25:51,184 --> 00:25:54,664
Speaker 1: we should work together. He's like, we worked.

627
00:25:55,944 --> 00:25:56,584
Speaker 2: It's please.

628
00:25:57,104 --> 00:26:00,424
Speaker 1: So she in this New Vogue interview, which is a

629
00:26:00,464 --> 00:26:05,144
Speaker 1: lot talking about this movie Marty Supreme, which obviously we

630
00:26:05,184 --> 00:26:07,584
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but when those invites to the

631
00:26:07,584 --> 00:26:09,024
Speaker 1: premiere come through.

632
00:26:09,624 --> 00:26:10,264
Speaker 2: We met her.

633
00:26:10,424 --> 00:26:12,584
Speaker 1: We need to cancel everything because apparently it's going to

634
00:26:12,624 --> 00:26:15,584
Speaker 1: win every Oscar. That's I be really buzz Like. People

635
00:26:15,584 --> 00:26:18,384
Speaker 1: think that Gwyneth Paltrow hasn't acted in so long. She's

636
00:26:18,424 --> 00:26:20,624
Speaker 1: come back to acting to do this movie with Timothy

637
00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:23,384
Speaker 1: Challabay Marty Supreme, and people are like, she's going to

638
00:26:23,424 --> 00:26:25,944
Speaker 1: win another Oscar. I don't know for sure, but that

639
00:26:26,144 --> 00:26:26,984
Speaker 1: is the word on the.

640
00:26:26,904 --> 00:26:30,424
Speaker 2: Street, another Oscar. I actually were.

641
00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:32,824
Speaker 1: Her speech is going to be so good.

642
00:26:32,944 --> 00:26:34,264
Speaker 2: She's going to be like, I don't know who any

643
00:26:34,304 --> 00:26:38,624
Speaker 2: of you are, but please sign up to my newsletter Goop.

644
00:26:39,304 --> 00:26:42,664
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, if you want to hear my acceptance speech,

645
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Speaker 1: go to goop dot com. Ye, look in here, give

646
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Speaker 1: me your data, and then you can read my full speech.

647
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Speaker 2: If you become a member, you'll hear the speech twenty

648
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Speaker 2: seconds earlier than they else.

649
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Speaker 1: It would actually be a nice full circle moment because

650
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Speaker 1: when she did win her Oscar for Shakespeare in Love,

651
00:26:58,024 --> 00:27:00,544
Speaker 1: very famously, she got up on stage and just had

652
00:27:00,584 --> 00:27:03,704
Speaker 1: a complete breakdown when she was really young, and she

653
00:27:03,744 --> 00:27:05,104
Speaker 1: was sobbing, and everyone made fun of.

654
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Speaker 2: Her and so little purple dress.

655
00:27:06,864 --> 00:27:09,504
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a pink ball gown was lilac. No,

656
00:27:09,584 --> 00:27:12,384
Speaker 1: it was pink, very famously pink because people made fun

657
00:27:12,424 --> 00:27:14,424
Speaker 1: of it. It's a bit ill fitting, like this pink

658
00:27:14,464 --> 00:27:18,264
Speaker 1: ball gown. And then she I don't know what you're thinking.

659
00:27:19,584 --> 00:27:22,704
Speaker 1: I tried to do something I did. You're like, I

660
00:27:22,744 --> 00:27:25,104
Speaker 1: don't know what she's talking about. And then she was

661
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:28,304
Speaker 1: wearing that diamond necklace that was as of dollars, and

662
00:27:28,304 --> 00:27:30,544
Speaker 1: then people were bragging on her because she's like, Daddy's

663
00:27:30,544 --> 00:27:32,384
Speaker 1: gonna buy me the necklace. I was like, just she's

664
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Speaker 1: she's a rich Hollywood princess. Let her live.

665
00:27:34,464 --> 00:27:35,504
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he did.

666
00:27:35,784 --> 00:27:37,944
Speaker 1: And then it was like she was a heroine from

667
00:27:37,984 --> 00:27:40,304
Speaker 1: a Jane Austen novel because she was so embarrassed after

668
00:27:40,344 --> 00:27:42,304
Speaker 1: she won that Oscar of how people were mocking her

669
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Speaker 1: for sobbing on stage that she took to her bed

670
00:27:44,424 --> 00:27:48,624
Speaker 1: for a month. I mean, Sam, same, she could take

671
00:27:48,624 --> 00:27:49,424
Speaker 1: to my bed for a month.

672
00:27:50,424 --> 00:27:52,184
Speaker 2: How can we take to our bed and still get baths?

673
00:27:52,304 --> 00:27:53,704
Speaker 1: I know that's all we got to figure out.

674
00:27:53,744 --> 00:27:55,304
Speaker 2: I could do the spill from our beds.

675
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Speaker 1: I would actually love that. Guys, stay tuned that one's

676
00:27:58,304 --> 00:28:00,624
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. So in this interview, she's talking about

677
00:28:00,624 --> 00:28:03,464
Speaker 1: Marty Supreme, which she acts in with Timothy Chalamey, who

678
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Speaker 1: apparently is also going to get his first oscar for

679
00:28:05,504 --> 00:28:06,024
Speaker 1: this movie.

680
00:28:06,224 --> 00:28:07,544
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been saying that for years.

681
00:28:07,784 --> 00:28:09,344
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, one really thought he was gonna

682
00:28:09,344 --> 00:28:11,664
Speaker 1: win last time, but this time it's.

683
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Speaker 2: It was a bad movie.

684
00:28:13,824 --> 00:28:17,064
Speaker 1: I mean no, Well, Adrian Brodie were so locked in,

685
00:28:17,424 --> 00:28:20,184
Speaker 1: like everyone was like that, like they knew before loss.

686
00:28:19,904 --> 00:28:22,264
Speaker 2: And he already had ten minutes speech prepared and.

687
00:28:22,344 --> 00:28:24,184
Speaker 1: They like to give it to younger men when they

688
00:28:24,264 --> 00:28:25,904
Speaker 1: as they were kind of like, he's still pretty young

689
00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:30,304
Speaker 1: to du But so Marty's Supreme. I think Marty's like

690
00:28:30,424 --> 00:28:32,184
Speaker 1: Timothy Chell Mad's. I get, I haven't seen it. It's

691
00:28:32,184 --> 00:28:34,344
Speaker 1: like a poker player or something like that. But he

692
00:28:34,384 --> 00:28:37,744
Speaker 1: and Gwyneth Paltrow have a bit of a steamy relationship,

693
00:28:37,784 --> 00:28:39,584
Speaker 1: and that's how people first heard about the movie and

694
00:28:39,704 --> 00:28:41,704
Speaker 1: those pat pics that came out of them, like making

695
00:28:41,744 --> 00:28:44,344
Speaker 1: out the Street. I do remember, Yeah, you didn't think

696
00:28:44,344 --> 00:28:45,904
Speaker 1: they want to show me sexy? No, I mean, do

697
00:28:45,944 --> 00:28:47,424
Speaker 1: you want to see them? I thought you, I thought

698
00:28:47,424 --> 00:28:48,104
Speaker 1: you already knew.

699
00:28:48,224 --> 00:28:50,544
Speaker 2: No, But I don't find both of those people like

700
00:28:50,664 --> 00:28:51,424
Speaker 2: sexy people.

701
00:28:51,864 --> 00:28:53,784
Speaker 1: You don't find either of them sexy. I no, no,

702
00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:55,864
Speaker 1: I think Gwyneth Paltrow can be a bit sexy.

703
00:28:56,424 --> 00:28:59,144
Speaker 2: I think she's like Hollywood sexy, but personally she's not

704
00:28:59,184 --> 00:29:02,344
Speaker 2: my type of sexy. Oh okay, yeah, I.

705
00:29:02,264 --> 00:29:04,624
Speaker 1: Mean it depends which movie you're watching. I guess not

706
00:29:05,104 --> 00:29:07,664
Speaker 1: Paltrow sitting in her house talking about bone Broth, but

707
00:29:07,784 --> 00:29:09,304
Speaker 1: like some of her movies.

708
00:29:09,584 --> 00:29:13,384
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, do you think you'll bring Apple as a guest?

709
00:29:13,744 --> 00:29:15,584
Speaker 1: I mean maybe. Well, here's what she said about the movie.

710
00:29:15,624 --> 00:29:19,104
Speaker 2: People's gonna be pushing everyone off the red tarpet.

711
00:29:19,344 --> 00:29:21,384
Speaker 1: I forgot about your vendet or against Apple marks.

712
00:29:21,424 --> 00:29:24,224
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like pushing everyone away. She'd be like

713
00:29:24,264 --> 00:29:25,384
Speaker 2: Timothy get out.

714
00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:27,384
Speaker 1: Maybe she won't want to see this movie because this

715
00:29:27,464 --> 00:29:29,304
Speaker 1: is what they said in the article, is that Gwyneth

716
00:29:29,304 --> 00:29:33,224
Speaker 1: has previously hinted that viewers can expect a whole lot

717
00:29:33,264 --> 00:29:37,344
Speaker 1: of sex from this movie Marty Supreme when it comes

718
00:29:37,344 --> 00:29:41,864
Speaker 1: out on Christmas date, comes to Christmas Day, you take

719
00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:44,144
Speaker 1: your parents to see it? Absolutely not, And she said

720
00:29:44,144 --> 00:29:45,624
Speaker 1: that one of the things to look out for one

721
00:29:45,624 --> 00:29:47,704
Speaker 1: of these sexy scenes is the way they kiss and

722
00:29:47,744 --> 00:29:49,824
Speaker 1: the way they do other things because they had very

723
00:29:49,864 --> 00:29:54,824
Speaker 1: extensive tongue choreography, so they have like their tongues had

724
00:29:54,864 --> 00:29:57,224
Speaker 1: to rehearse together of where they were to go.

725
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Speaker 2: What are you don't believe I.

726
00:30:02,264 --> 00:30:03,904
Speaker 1: Was talking about mercans and now you're worried.

727
00:30:03,744 --> 00:30:07,144
Speaker 2: About hate thinking about that?

728
00:30:07,384 --> 00:30:11,544
Speaker 1: Really? Okay, you've got to You've got to get your sister.

729
00:30:12,184 --> 00:30:13,984
Speaker 2: And then the co was like, now move your tongue

730
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Speaker 2: to the ryd and they're like, a now move it up, and.

731
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Speaker 1: They're like, is that your impression of Gwyneth Paltrow and

732
00:30:20,144 --> 00:30:21,464
Speaker 1: Timothy Chalamee making out?

733
00:30:21,664 --> 00:30:24,224
Speaker 2: That's my impression of someone being choreographed. They're like with

734
00:30:24,304 --> 00:30:27,424
Speaker 2: their tongues like that, that's what actors do. I mean

735
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Speaker 2: to go to our YouTube channel if you want to

736
00:30:28,984 --> 00:30:30,984
Speaker 2: see and doing. If I had to see it, so

737
00:30:31,104 --> 00:30:31,744
Speaker 2: to the rest of you.

738
00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:35,104
Speaker 1: So she was asked about Timothy in this Vogue story

739
00:30:35,624 --> 00:30:38,984
Speaker 1: and then she goes sees she's very aware sometimes she said,

740
00:30:39,064 --> 00:30:40,064
Speaker 1: everyone makes fun of me.

741
00:30:40,424 --> 00:30:41,824
Speaker 2: Wait wait, back to the tongue koke.

742
00:30:41,904 --> 00:30:43,504
Speaker 1: Okay, sure what other questions?

743
00:30:43,744 --> 00:30:45,624
Speaker 2: What I was doing is what they like, we was

744
00:30:45,664 --> 00:30:48,024
Speaker 2: actually not even good, Like how do you but then

745
00:30:48,064 --> 00:30:50,304
Speaker 2: what does that mean tongue choreography.

746
00:30:49,984 --> 00:30:52,984
Speaker 1: Well, he was. She would probably say, like the choreographer

747
00:30:53,264 --> 00:30:56,344
Speaker 1: would probably it's really unsettling that you're doing what you're

748
00:30:56,344 --> 00:30:57,704
Speaker 1: doing with your tongue. I'm trying to talk to you,

749
00:30:58,384 --> 00:31:00,424
Speaker 1: is that. He would probably say, Now, Gwyneth, you like

750
00:31:00,704 --> 00:31:03,304
Speaker 1: push your tongue out and like start like circling around

751
00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:06,904
Speaker 1: Timothy's mouth, and Timothy, Timothy, you send your tongue out

752
00:31:06,904 --> 00:31:09,144
Speaker 1: to Gwyneth and then like wrap them around together, and

753
00:31:09,184 --> 00:31:11,304
Speaker 1: then his tongue's going on to yours and then maybe

754
00:31:11,304 --> 00:31:13,784
Speaker 1: his like tongue over her face. I mean, I don't know,

755
00:31:13,904 --> 00:31:16,744
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you get a whole choreographer in there,

756
00:31:16,784 --> 00:31:17,864
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a dance.

757
00:31:18,264 --> 00:31:19,904
Speaker 2: What if you're run out a surviva.

758
00:31:20,144 --> 00:31:21,544
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have people on set for that, and

759
00:31:21,664 --> 00:31:23,744
Speaker 1: just get dry tongue. I'm sure they have people on

760
00:31:23,784 --> 00:31:28,184
Speaker 1: set first, right, just spray Timothy's mouth and like moist

761
00:31:28,224 --> 00:31:32,144
Speaker 1: in his tongue. I mean see that. Well, you're going

762
00:31:32,144 --> 00:31:33,624
Speaker 1: to see it because we're going to go to this movie.

763
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Speaker 2: The difference between this plot line and the plot line

764
00:31:36,344 --> 00:31:38,144
Speaker 2: of what's the other the Anne Hathaway one.

765
00:31:38,184 --> 00:31:39,304
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I think they're different.

766
00:31:39,344 --> 00:31:41,544
Speaker 2: And then one of the col Kidman one.

767
00:31:41,544 --> 00:31:43,584
Speaker 1: Yes, it is in that vein of like an older

768
00:31:43,624 --> 00:31:45,504
Speaker 1: woman younger man, but we don't know the full plot yet.

769
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Speaker 2: And the other the col Kidman one.

770
00:31:46,824 --> 00:31:50,224
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's an interesting kind of time and

771
00:31:50,304 --> 00:31:51,064
Speaker 1: cinema at the moment.

772
00:31:51,064 --> 00:31:52,544
Speaker 2: But this one is the Oscar one.

773
00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:56,064
Speaker 1: Yeah the hell. I don't know why this one's the

774
00:31:56,104 --> 00:31:58,624
Speaker 1: Oscar one because there must be a bigger story behind it.

775
00:31:58,744 --> 00:32:00,144
Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't mean that fan of movie I

776
00:32:00,144 --> 00:32:00,864
Speaker 1: haven't seen yet.

777
00:32:00,944 --> 00:32:03,544
Speaker 2: What do you mean August Moon was a huge storyline.

778
00:32:03,824 --> 00:32:06,744
Speaker 1: That is not the name of that movie. It's the

779
00:32:06,864 --> 00:32:09,824
Speaker 1: idea of you and you weren't gonna see it. That's

780
00:32:09,824 --> 00:32:11,544
Speaker 1: the name of the bear end in the movie. And

781
00:32:11,544 --> 00:32:13,304
Speaker 1: I don't think you should be critiquing that movie because

782
00:32:13,304 --> 00:32:14,904
Speaker 1: you forgot your glasses in the cinema.

783
00:32:15,064 --> 00:32:17,424
Speaker 2: Critiquing that movie. I'm saying that this is going to

784
00:32:17,464 --> 00:32:19,024
Speaker 2: be Oscar worthy. They all should have been Oscar worthy,

785
00:32:19,104 --> 00:32:20,624
Speaker 2: especially the zach Efron one that was good.

786
00:32:21,024 --> 00:32:22,704
Speaker 1: What a family affair that was?

787
00:32:23,144 --> 00:32:25,864
Speaker 2: The other baby Girl that was also that should have

788
00:32:25,904 --> 00:32:26,584
Speaker 2: been osc worthy.

789
00:32:26,744 --> 00:32:29,624
Speaker 1: Well, I think they thought it was meant to be anyway. Sorry,

790
00:32:29,984 --> 00:32:31,584
Speaker 1: nothing gotten to the rest of the story yet.

791
00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,864
Speaker 2: I just hope this brings something different to the table.

792
00:32:33,864 --> 00:32:35,184
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to you when I go to

793
00:32:35,184 --> 00:32:37,304
Speaker 1: the Marty Supreme premiere. You stn up in your seat

794
00:32:37,304 --> 00:32:40,824
Speaker 1: and be like, there's the tongue choreography that's happening. So

795
00:32:41,064 --> 00:32:45,304
Speaker 1: in this British Rogue article, Gwyneth Paltrow says, everyone makes

796
00:32:45,344 --> 00:32:47,824
Speaker 1: fun of me because I don't know anything, but you

797
00:32:47,864 --> 00:32:49,784
Speaker 1: don't go. It's like she's talking directly to you.

798
00:32:49,744 --> 00:32:51,544
Speaker 2: And I'm not making fun of you. I'm stating a fact.

799
00:32:51,624 --> 00:32:53,584
Speaker 1: She says, well, no, she's agreeing with you. And she

800
00:32:53,624 --> 00:32:56,224
Speaker 1: says when she first met Timothy Chalameay, she was trying

801
00:32:56,224 --> 00:32:58,024
Speaker 1: to be friends with him, and she said, do you

802
00:32:58,024 --> 00:32:59,904
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend, And he.

803
00:32:59,904 --> 00:33:03,104
Speaker 2: Said, I do. All you have to do is literally

804
00:33:03,184 --> 00:33:04,744
Speaker 2: google his name and it's the first thing that comes O.

805
00:33:04,904 --> 00:33:06,624
Speaker 1: I know. But she's gone with Paltrow, she doesn't google,

806
00:33:06,664 --> 00:33:08,784
Speaker 1: that's true, and he said I do. And then she

807
00:33:08,824 --> 00:33:11,184
Speaker 1: said later on he said, and she has two kids.

808
00:33:11,544 --> 00:33:13,184
Speaker 1: And this is when I'm going to Paltrow's like, I'm

809
00:33:13,184 --> 00:33:15,064
Speaker 1: going to talk this young man up. I'm gonna make

810
00:33:15,144 --> 00:33:17,864
Speaker 1: him feel okay about this situation, and she said that

811
00:33:18,064 --> 00:33:20,664
Speaker 1: is so cool. I really love to hear that from

812
00:33:20,664 --> 00:33:22,864
Speaker 1: a young man. And then she said to the magazine,

813
00:33:22,904 --> 00:33:25,224
Speaker 1: I understand a forty five year old who has his

814
00:33:25,344 --> 00:33:27,664
Speaker 1: own kids going out with a woman who has kids.

815
00:33:27,904 --> 00:33:29,544
Speaker 1: But it's such a cool choice to go out with

816
00:33:29,584 --> 00:33:32,384
Speaker 1: a young woman who has two kids. And she's like,

817
00:33:32,424 --> 00:33:34,744
Speaker 1: I really really respect it. I think it's kind of

818
00:33:34,784 --> 00:33:38,064
Speaker 1: punk rock actually, oh, which is nice. And later on

819
00:33:38,104 --> 00:33:42,224
Speaker 1: she goes, I didn't know it was Kylie Jenner. She

820
00:33:42,384 --> 00:33:44,824
Speaker 1: was thinking, he just found this young single mom like

821
00:33:44,864 --> 00:33:49,024
Speaker 1: the burbs of LA with two kids, and he was yeah,

822
00:33:49,304 --> 00:33:52,624
Speaker 1: and they call him daddy timidate, and she just did

823
00:33:52,704 --> 00:33:55,384
Speaker 1: had no idea that it was billionaire Kylie Jenner.

824
00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:58,064
Speaker 2: That she was referring to it well done.

825
00:33:58,224 --> 00:34:00,184
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, it's actually a bit dating a woman

826
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Speaker 1: with children. On the it's actually a bit punk rock

827
00:34:03,264 --> 00:34:03,984
Speaker 1: when you think about it.

828
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Speaker 2: She has the youngest billionaire.

829
00:34:05,864 --> 00:34:07,824
Speaker 1: Yeah. She was trying to be so supportive, which I

830
00:34:07,824 --> 00:34:11,264
Speaker 1: think is fun. She had no idea even though Kylie

831
00:34:11,304 --> 00:34:13,144
Speaker 1: Jenner was sitting at the Oscars with him and the

832
00:34:13,184 --> 00:34:16,784
Speaker 1: Golden Globes and the Emmys and every film festival.

833
00:34:16,464 --> 00:34:18,624
Speaker 2: In the world. We all know they're together, except Gwyneth,

834
00:34:18,664 --> 00:34:21,984
Speaker 2: except Gwyneth. Imagine living that like a life like that.

835
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Speaker 1: I actually love the idea of that, just not knowing anything,

836
00:34:24,384 --> 00:34:25,704
Speaker 1: we have to know too much, not.

837
00:34:25,664 --> 00:34:27,624
Speaker 2: Knowing anything but also knowing enough.

838
00:34:27,664 --> 00:34:29,504
Speaker 1: I would have loved if Kylie had come to set

839
00:34:29,504 --> 00:34:31,304
Speaker 1: one day, which she might have been Gwenda's just might

840
00:34:31,344 --> 00:34:33,624
Speaker 1: have no idea. If Kylie had come to set one

841
00:34:33,664 --> 00:34:35,944
Speaker 1: day and she'd be like, oh my god, you're so brave,

842
00:34:36,104 --> 00:34:38,464
Speaker 1: all that lovely single mom, he's dating, good on you

843
00:34:38,584 --> 00:34:39,264
Speaker 1: keep trying.

844
00:34:40,304 --> 00:34:41,624
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's okay.

845
00:34:41,664 --> 00:34:44,824
Speaker 1: And timoth Day was like, yeah, my girlfriend.

846
00:34:44,544 --> 00:34:45,744
Speaker 2: That's my girlfriend, Kylie Jenner.

847
00:34:45,824 --> 00:34:48,864
Speaker 1: You might know a lot to unpack from that small

848
00:34:48,904 --> 00:34:52,224
Speaker 1: so she love her, you love Gwyneth? Yeah, yeah, so yeah.

849
00:34:52,264 --> 00:34:55,304
Speaker 1: She she hates Amy Odell. She doesn't know who Kylie

850
00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:58,824
Speaker 1: Jenner is, but she's a big fan of tongue choreography is.

851
00:34:58,864 --> 00:35:01,704
Speaker 1: I think the takeaways great and I'm really proud of

852
00:35:01,744 --> 00:35:03,544
Speaker 1: Vogue for bringing all of those things to our attention.

853
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I cannot wait for her Oscar Wins.

854
00:35:07,144 --> 00:35:08,824
Speaker 1: I can't wait to finally sign up to group.

855
00:35:09,064 --> 00:35:11,384
Speaker 2: I see he has accepted I don't even care what

856
00:35:11,464 --> 00:35:12,664
Speaker 2: the movie is gonna be. I just want her to

857
00:35:12,704 --> 00:35:13,224
Speaker 2: win the Oscar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's start this campaign now.

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Speaker 2: No one watched the movie.

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Speaker 1: Can someone keep confilm a cultural break in her whole life?

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Speaker 2: She's been through a lot. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: listening to the Spill today. Make sure you follow us

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Speaker 2: on TikTok and Instagram and send us a DM. We

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Speaker 2: love hearing from you and we will be back in

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Speaker 2: your feeds right and early tomorrow with Weekend Watch. The

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Speaker 2: Spill is produced by Militias Wirreen with sound production by

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Speaker 2: Scott Stronik and we will see you then. Bye bye.