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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast from Mama Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura

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Speaker 1: Brodney and I'm m Burnham and coming up on the

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Speaker 1: show today. To be honest, is just something we've been

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Speaker 1: desperate to talk about, and we've been having this conversation

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Speaker 1: the office across our desk. We thought we'd do it

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Speaker 1: here for the Spillers because you guys famously love to

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Speaker 1: hear em and I talk. We're doing I guess a

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Speaker 1: few little mini brutally honest reviews of the Oscar movies

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Speaker 1: from this year, but what it actually is going to

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Speaker 1: be because there's so many now they've extended Best Picture,

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Speaker 1: there's so many movies to watch, and you've got to

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Speaker 1: pay for a ticket or you've got to download a

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Speaker 1: streaming service. There's a lot of conversation of which Oscar

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Speaker 1: movies are actually worth people's time, not for the film bros,

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Speaker 1: not to impress people, just which ones are worth your

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Speaker 1: time to sit down and spend a few hours of

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Speaker 2: And I think we wanted to do this because for

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Speaker 2: a long time, this feels like the first Oscar is

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Speaker 2: where it's literally anyone's game like. We've been seeing the

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Speaker 2: Golden Globes, the critics choice, the SAG Awards, and it

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Speaker 2: seems like everyone's getting a chance to win something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the tables have turned the last minute with sinners

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Speaker 1: taking out two of the big Screen Actors Guild Awards.

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Speaker 1: That's a game change up not getting my hopes up.

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Speaker 2: I'm so mad because I was obviously, we talked about

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Speaker 2: it last week.

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Speaker 1: I was overseas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I landed the day of the SAG Award. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I wish I was in the office because when

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Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan was announced, Oh, oh my Gokay, we

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Speaker 2: haven't talked about this.

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Speaker 1: Did you cry?

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Speaker 2: It was the first time I've ever cried at someone

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Speaker 2: winning an award, really, first time, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But it was so boy that honestly, am I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: that even though I think you were in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the ocean on a flight in the plane Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Yeah, but even with that,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't hear the screen from the office

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Speaker 1: when Michael B. Jordan won, because it was so unexpected

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Speaker 1: and everyone has just loved him so so well deserved.

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Speaker 1: He played two roles we're gonna get. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: also think this is an Oscars year where a lot

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Speaker 1: of just mainstream moviegoers have seen a lot of the movies,

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Speaker 1: which I know sounds silly, but there are some years

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Speaker 1: where people say to me, what are the top movies

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Speaker 1: in the Oscars mix, And I'll say, well, well, these

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Speaker 1: which just because they're like it always happens or this,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're like not really like kind of big

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Speaker 1: blockbuster ones. But this year, I think at least everyone

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Speaker 1: knows the names of these movies. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: go through some of our phaves and then we have

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Speaker 1: a special special deep dive that we've just been desperate

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Speaker 1: to do for so long coming at the end. Okay, Emily,

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Speaker 1: out of all the movies nominated for Best Pitch this year,

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Speaker 1: what is one of your picks for a movie that

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Speaker 1: people definitely have to see. Okay, you're gonna hate this.

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Speaker 1: I know, maybe I've grown and changed since you've been away.

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Speaker 2: I wanna preface this by saying I don't think this

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Speaker 2: it because it's just such a good film.

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Speaker 1: And so much fun? Is the F one get yourself

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Speaker 1: out of his studio? Get out of here? Can I

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Speaker 1: just tell you to be honest, I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: saying people shouldn't see it. The fact that the F

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Speaker 1: my mind. There's so many other incredible movies that came

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Speaker 1: the movie that like took Simone Ashley out of the

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Speaker 1: Alum, you took my ticket because I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: Excited to me. It was like one of the best

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Speaker 1: Will they give you good snacks? Is that why you

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Speaker 2: My God, like tacos, like the best snacks ever.

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Speaker 1: This goes in Margaritas. I feel the same feeling as

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Speaker 1: That's you with the f one. I'm sold.

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Speaker 2: So I do think the reason because of the brad

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Speaker 2: pit effect. That's the reason. That's an oscar running. But

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Speaker 2: Damnson Idris is amazing in that field, like he makes

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Speaker 2: the film for me. I one hundred percent think that

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Speaker 2: Simone actually should have been in there. There are multiple

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Speaker 2: meant to be Damnson Idris's love interest, but instead they

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Speaker 1: What could a woman do? It's like so po That

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Speaker 1: whole love story was pointless. It didn't go anywhere. But

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Speaker 1: you still have this movie, right, remember that. I love

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Speaker 2: I think what they did with this movie was so clever.

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Speaker 2: They obviously jumped on the bandwagon with so many women,

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Speaker 2: like they used fake people. Also, Lewis Hamilton, who is

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Speaker 2: don't say they're still dating, you know, and as an

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Speaker 1: On Else, so she might she might go to the Oscars.

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Speaker 2: Imagine Lewis Hamilton bringing Kim Kardashi into the oscar and

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Speaker 2: I think it was just like one of those movies that, like,

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Speaker 1: I even think that to his credit. I even think

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Speaker 1: I feel like someone came up papped him on the

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Speaker 1: for Best Picture. And he was like really, like that

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Speaker 2: But I do want to say, damnse and Idris amazing,

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Speaker 2: I especially want to see him in a romance. I

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Speaker 2: see him in something like an Emily Henry adaptation. Oh

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Speaker 2: he is so good looking, so funny. He's one of

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't know if I've seen his you'll

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Speaker 1: Simone Ashley, she deserves that. She means to be like

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Speaker 2: But yes, okay, I want to say, f one movie.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's to me. You'll love it. Oh

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll make misst some tacos and I'll sit down

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Speaker 1: try and recreate the magic that you felt. All right,

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Speaker 1: we could not go in a more different direction. I no, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I did mention this movie the week it came out.

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Speaker 1: it has won every single thing, which is like it's

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Speaker 1: fun for her. Doesn't make for a kind of like

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Speaker 1: a bit of a not as exciting Oscars race, but

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Speaker 1: at least we know she, the person who deserves to win,

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Speaker 2: Yes, and she was recently in the new movie that's

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Speaker 1: The Ride, which you've seen. Yes, I have seen The Bride.

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Speaker 1: I did talk about it in last week's We Can Watch.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to that. But she is head out

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Speaker 1: of ten out of ten and out as well. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna see it everywhere. Back to back Oscars.

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Speaker 1: based on a book, a best selling book by Maggie O'Farrell,

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Speaker 1: who also co wrote the script with Chloe Joo. And

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Speaker 1: because a lot isn't known about like the intricacies of

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Speaker 1: William Shakespeare's life. And when I say that, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't wan people to be like, but we know him

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Speaker 1: when he was married, we know when this like, yes,

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Speaker 1: don't know the intricacies of like his personal life and relationships.

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Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway, Yeah, exactly, Anne Hathaway. He's called Agnes in

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Speaker 1: the movie. That's who Jesse Buckley plays. We do know

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Speaker 1: that he had a son called Hamnet who passed away

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's still my favorite film of his as well.

431
00:18:29,114 --> 00:18:30,834
Speaker 2: I think Poor Things was a big one of his

432
00:18:30,994 --> 00:18:33,154
Speaker 2: that like everyone was talking.

433
00:18:32,914 --> 00:18:36,594
Speaker 1: About it also then the favorite We've had this conversation, but.

434
00:18:36,634 --> 00:18:39,154
Speaker 2: Like Begonia I think it had kind of the same

435
00:18:39,274 --> 00:18:42,034
Speaker 2: kind of feeling as kind of kindness. It doesn't feel

436
00:18:42,034 --> 00:18:44,634
Speaker 2: like everyone's watched it. I forgot and.

437
00:18:44,594 --> 00:18:47,754
Speaker 1: I watched it. You went to the premiere, I remember,

438
00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:49,914
Speaker 1: I had to. I wouldn't barely call it a premier.

439
00:18:51,434 --> 00:18:53,794
Speaker 1: It was a conventions under across the road from my building,

440
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Speaker 1: and I couldn't go because I was a lecture theater. Okay, Well,

441
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Speaker 1: wasn't it part of a theater festal dope south By

442
00:18:59,194 --> 00:19:01,513
Speaker 1: southwest By? Well they're gone from a straight now, so

443
00:19:01,514 --> 00:19:04,354
Speaker 1: thanks very much, Emily. Remember, I think it was probably

444
00:19:04,434 --> 00:19:08,354
Speaker 1: my review. I couldn't come because I do interview Kimkodashion

445
00:19:08,354 --> 00:19:09,554
Speaker 1: and then she hated me memories.

446
00:19:09,834 --> 00:19:13,034
Speaker 2: We both had a bad day day with our very

447
00:19:13,074 --> 00:19:14,034
Speaker 2: elite fun jobs.

448
00:19:14,074 --> 00:19:17,354
Speaker 1: Who hate this movie? I'm like a celete. Did like me,

449
00:19:17,834 --> 00:19:20,514
Speaker 1: but I've since watched it. Yes, and what are your

450
00:19:20,554 --> 00:19:23,794
Speaker 1: thoughts on it? Oh? I really liked it. Okay, I

451
00:19:23,834 --> 00:19:26,714
Speaker 1: didn't have the ending spoiled for me like you did.

452
00:19:27,034 --> 00:19:29,074
Speaker 1: The person's running that's exactly sorry.

453
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Speaker 2: I should have prefaced this by saying you haven't listened

454
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Speaker 2: to I think it was a Weekend Watch episode where

455
00:19:33,194 --> 00:19:35,513
Speaker 2: I talked about it The reason why I didn't like

456
00:19:35,554 --> 00:19:39,314
Speaker 2: the film was the person who introduced the film accidentally

457
00:19:39,634 --> 00:19:42,273
Speaker 2: kind of spoilt it.

458
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Speaker 1: Emily has one enemy in this world and it's the

459
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Speaker 1: woman who spoiled Bigonia for her. I'm so sorry, whoever

460
00:19:48,594 --> 00:19:52,354
Speaker 1: you are tainting your name like this, but it ruined

461
00:19:52,354 --> 00:19:55,274
Speaker 1: the experience. Well, the thing is Bigonia is like it's

462
00:19:55,314 --> 00:19:57,914
Speaker 1: an incredible movie, but also so much of it is

463
00:19:57,954 --> 00:20:00,074
Speaker 1: the plot twist. Yeah, it is one of those plot

464
00:20:00,114 --> 00:20:02,474
Speaker 1: twists like if anyone hasn't seen it, like I don't

465
00:20:02,474 --> 00:20:05,313
Speaker 1: know how you haven't seen it because ridiculous people have

466
00:20:05,434 --> 00:20:07,314
Speaker 1: filmed and put it all over TikTok, so you could

467
00:20:07,314 --> 00:20:10,034
Speaker 1: see it against your will. But I would say it's

468
00:20:10,114 --> 00:20:12,074
Speaker 1: up there with like the sixth sense and stuff. It's

469
00:20:12,194 --> 00:20:14,114
Speaker 1: so the moment where you go, if you don't know

470
00:20:14,154 --> 00:20:16,553
Speaker 1: it's coming, where you go, whoa. Yeah.

471
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Speaker 2: And I think Jesse Plemmon's in it is incredible, Like

472
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Speaker 2: I genuinely want him to win.

473
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Speaker 1: He is he even nominated? I don't know, so he's

474
00:20:25,714 --> 00:20:29,793
Speaker 1: he's not nominated. No, he's not nominated for Best Actor,

475
00:20:30,154 --> 00:20:32,994
Speaker 1: not even Best Supporting Actor. He's not. And his wife

476
00:20:33,154 --> 00:20:36,154
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunce, who stays out of all Hollywood drama. Who

477
00:20:36,194 --> 00:20:38,994
Speaker 1: stays out of everything? He's livid. Yeah, she put up

478
00:20:38,994 --> 00:20:41,314
Speaker 1: a thing about Jesse Plemmons being an incredible actor and

479
00:20:41,354 --> 00:20:43,914
Speaker 1: like just because he didn't ask kiss and just I'm paraphrasing,

480
00:20:44,154 --> 00:20:46,314
Speaker 1: but basically he didn't play the game, so he was

481
00:20:46,434 --> 00:20:48,594
Speaker 1: left out and you can see it. I was watching

482
00:20:48,634 --> 00:20:50,714
Speaker 1: them at the SAG Awards and like they're there, they're

483
00:20:50,714 --> 00:20:53,834
Speaker 1: doing everything, they're being professional, but she is so angry

484
00:20:53,834 --> 00:20:57,754
Speaker 1: on his behalf that he wasn't nominated and everyone's everyone

485
00:20:57,834 --> 00:20:59,634
Speaker 1: thought this was saying about the best. I think it's

486
00:20:59,834 --> 00:21:02,154
Speaker 1: his best movie he's ever done. I am really shocked.

487
00:21:02,194 --> 00:21:04,394
Speaker 1: I think early in the piece, like everyone thought he

488
00:21:04,474 --> 00:21:07,034
Speaker 1: was finally gonna win that Oscar. Everyone's like it's his year,

489
00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:10,634
Speaker 1: and then he moved further down the ranking. I just

490
00:21:10,674 --> 00:21:13,513
Speaker 1: wonder if, like, well, obviously like Emma's won twice with

491
00:21:13,634 --> 00:21:15,553
Speaker 1: your Ghosts films, but I just don't know if the

492
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Speaker 1: studio wasn't there, or like he doesn't have the star

493
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Speaker 1: power because he hasn't like had all the big rom

494
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Speaker 1: coms and things that she's had, or like you know,

495
00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:23,553
Speaker 1: the comedies and stuff, and I just don't think they

496
00:21:23,594 --> 00:21:25,994
Speaker 1: could mount a campaign to him that could compete with

497
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Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan, Leona Di DiCaprio, Timothy Shallamy, Ethan Hawk,

498
00:21:29,874 --> 00:21:32,354
Speaker 1: like all these big names, and he just got left

499
00:21:32,394 --> 00:21:34,513
Speaker 1: out in the cold but not had a nomination the

500
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:37,714
Speaker 1: year everyone thought he was gonna win. Is crazy. And

501
00:21:37,754 --> 00:21:40,474
Speaker 1: now he's gonna go to the No, he's gonna go

502
00:21:40,554 --> 00:21:42,313
Speaker 1: to the Oscars now and like clap for his like

503
00:21:42,394 --> 00:21:45,314
Speaker 1: movie being nominated, knowing that in any other time and

504
00:21:45,354 --> 00:21:48,154
Speaker 1: place he was gonna win. And Kirsten duns Is like,

505
00:21:48,194 --> 00:21:49,194
Speaker 1: she's so furious and.

506
00:21:49,314 --> 00:21:55,874
Speaker 2: Actually felt like fair, Like, I if that was my husband.

507
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Speaker 1: You do more than post an Instagram story and I'd

508
00:21:57,114 --> 00:21:59,674
Speaker 1: be very, very upset. Oh okay, that makes me really

509
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Speaker 1: really fat.

510
00:22:00,234 --> 00:22:02,154
Speaker 2: And I think people should watch this movie even more

511
00:22:02,194 --> 00:22:05,314
Speaker 2: to see how amazing he is. And it obviously Emma

512
00:22:05,354 --> 00:22:07,434
Speaker 2: Stone is amazing in as well. But I genuine think

513
00:22:07,434 --> 00:22:09,914
Speaker 2: out of all the Yogos Lithemos films they've done together,

514
00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:12,474
Speaker 2: she's always been the star, and I think he's the

515
00:22:12,554 --> 00:22:13,714
Speaker 2: star in this film.

516
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Speaker 1: He's a star. No, the Oscars have shunned him. Oh,

517
00:22:17,794 --> 00:22:19,874
Speaker 1: you are right, but we can't actually talk about the

518
00:22:19,874 --> 00:22:22,714
Speaker 1: film that much. Because of the spoilers. I would just

519
00:22:22,754 --> 00:22:24,914
Speaker 1: say that, like, if you have had it spoiled for you,

520
00:22:25,314 --> 00:22:27,954
Speaker 1: like Everily did, you can still watch it and like it.

521
00:22:27,954 --> 00:22:29,834
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that I got taken away from you,

522
00:22:29,874 --> 00:22:31,474
Speaker 1: but you will still be like, oh my god, this

523
00:22:31,554 --> 00:22:32,194
Speaker 1: is a great movie.

524
00:22:32,234 --> 00:22:35,994
Speaker 2: And it's like every other Yogoslithmos film. It's very weird. Yes,

525
00:22:36,074 --> 00:22:38,634
Speaker 2: it's very weird, which we love. It's good speaking of

526
00:22:38,674 --> 00:22:41,034
Speaker 2: weird people. One more before we get into our main

527
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Speaker 2: That's right. Our main recommendation is still to come.

528
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Speaker 1: Guys, A little movie called Marty Supreme which has had

529
00:22:45,834 --> 00:22:49,274
Speaker 1: no marketing, no one's no one's gone out and done

530
00:22:49,314 --> 00:22:52,674
Speaker 1: stunts and worn outfits with his famous girlfriend and gone

531
00:22:52,754 --> 00:22:55,914
Speaker 1: viral for all the wrong reasons as cosplaying as his character. Yeah,

532
00:22:56,274 --> 00:22:58,714
Speaker 1: I don't even know this movie existence. I hope everyone

533
00:22:58,754 --> 00:23:00,594
Speaker 1: who just listened to that is a long time spiller

534
00:23:00,634 --> 00:23:02,554
Speaker 1: or be like, what is she talking about? We've really

535
00:23:02,554 --> 00:23:04,434
Speaker 1: been talking about it every single week. It's just come out.

536
00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:07,514
Speaker 1: Have you seen Marty Suprema, I have seen that. You have, Okay,

537
00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:08,594
Speaker 1: last time we spoke, you had it.

538
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Speaker 2: I thought he was the first movie in a very,

539
00:23:10,954 --> 00:23:13,354
Speaker 2: very long time where Oh my god, I'm gonna sound

540
00:23:13,394 --> 00:23:15,834
Speaker 2: so bloody privileged, no say it. Or I bought my

541
00:23:15,874 --> 00:23:16,634
Speaker 2: little movie ticket.

542
00:23:16,754 --> 00:23:19,194
Speaker 1: No, but that's important. I actually think sometimes it's important

543
00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:23,553
Speaker 1: for us to buy tickets because we're so unrelatable this No,

544
00:23:23,674 --> 00:23:25,914
Speaker 1: can I tell you. I think about this all the

545
00:23:25,954 --> 00:23:28,794
Speaker 1: time now. And Marty Supreme was a big trigger for this,

546
00:23:29,314 --> 00:23:31,434
Speaker 1: because when I watched My Supreme and I talked to

547
00:23:31,474 --> 00:23:33,273
Speaker 1: a bunch of other film critics and people who like

548
00:23:33,314 --> 00:23:36,314
Speaker 1: work in this space afterwards, and every single person said

549
00:23:36,354 --> 00:23:40,194
Speaker 1: to me instantly, I loved it, incredible, mind blowing into everyone.

550
00:23:40,234 --> 00:23:42,474
Speaker 1: I said, like, I'm going to need a couple of days.

551
00:23:42,474 --> 00:23:44,073
Speaker 1: I think people thought I was stupid. They're like, oh,

552
00:23:44,354 --> 00:23:47,353
Speaker 1: shame like movies about singing green people, and I was like, no,

553
00:23:47,514 --> 00:23:49,594
Speaker 1: I'm just I just think that we all went into

554
00:23:49,634 --> 00:23:52,794
Speaker 1: this being told it was the biggest movie of the year,

555
00:23:53,274 --> 00:23:56,434
Speaker 1: and has anyone actually taken a second to think. I'm

556
00:23:56,474 --> 00:23:58,513
Speaker 1: sure it's those people enjoyed it the first time they

557
00:23:58,554 --> 00:24:00,793
Speaker 1: watched it, but we saw it so early before, like

558
00:24:00,834 --> 00:24:03,514
Speaker 1: other people in Australian stuff. I'm just like, did anyone

559
00:24:03,554 --> 00:24:05,434
Speaker 1: sort of actually stop and think do I like this?

560
00:24:05,554 --> 00:24:08,234
Speaker 1: Or was I told to like this and will be

561
00:24:08,434 --> 00:24:11,834
Speaker 1: average person. I always think of like as Susan or

562
00:24:11,954 --> 00:24:13,914
Speaker 1: Mary or something like that, living in a small town

563
00:24:13,914 --> 00:24:16,554
Speaker 1: in Australia and you go to the movies maybe once

564
00:24:16,634 --> 00:24:19,274
Speaker 1: every three months maybe, but for most people sometimes it's

565
00:24:19,274 --> 00:24:22,474
Speaker 1: one year every six months. Also, movie tickets are so expensive,

566
00:24:22,554 --> 00:24:25,234
Speaker 1: oh my god. And snacks are so expensive.

567
00:24:24,874 --> 00:24:28,514
Speaker 2: So expensive, and even like because it's such a long film. Yeah,

568
00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,994
Speaker 2: so even like getting the rights like show time for

569
00:24:31,114 --> 00:24:33,194
Speaker 2: it to make sure it's not in between lunch and dinner.

570
00:24:33,234 --> 00:24:36,954
Speaker 2: It's very stressful. I hadn't infected that in very stressful. Yeah,

571
00:24:36,994 --> 00:24:40,154
Speaker 2: normal people don't get their popcorn and rinks, you know, movies.

572
00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:41,394
Speaker 1: We're quite privileged.

573
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Speaker 2: But what I really enjoyed was I booked my tickets

574
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Speaker 2: well early in advance because I knew I was going

575
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Speaker 2: to be here for the premiere, so I wanted to

576
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Speaker 2: watch it as soon as possible.

577
00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:51,394
Speaker 1: And the cinema was packed. Yeah.

578
00:24:51,434 --> 00:24:54,034
Speaker 2: And I think it's so different because obviously when we're

579
00:24:54,074 --> 00:24:56,954
Speaker 2: at premieres, we're sitting amongst other people who are also

580
00:24:57,074 --> 00:25:01,154
Speaker 2: TV and movie critics, and the reaction is different. Like

581
00:25:01,474 --> 00:25:05,994
Speaker 2: people in cinemas, they're more aware of their reaction where

582
00:25:06,194 --> 00:25:08,394
Speaker 2: like you don't hear a lot, you don't hear like

583
00:25:08,434 --> 00:25:12,474
Speaker 2: people like laughing or gasping, and like in this cinema,

584
00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:14,274
Speaker 2: like I could see from the corner of my eye,

585
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Speaker 2: like the family sitting next to me well like gasping

586
00:25:16,874 --> 00:25:19,034
Speaker 2: and then like closing their mouths like they couldn't believe

587
00:25:19,074 --> 00:25:19,714
Speaker 2: they were having that.

588
00:25:19,754 --> 00:25:21,674
Speaker 1: Much of a like visceral reaction.

589
00:25:22,314 --> 00:25:26,074
Speaker 2: And it was just so lovely to see so much

590
00:25:26,114 --> 00:25:27,114
Speaker 2: happens in that movie.

591
00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:29,194
Speaker 1: So much I felt like I watched four movies in

592
00:25:29,274 --> 00:25:31,634
Speaker 1: one yeah, exactly. So once I sort of settled on

593
00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:33,114
Speaker 1: like do I actually like this movie? And I went

594
00:25:33,114 --> 00:25:35,714
Speaker 1: to my full like make movies for people, you know

595
00:25:35,914 --> 00:25:38,114
Speaker 1: kind of thing, I did land on I think people

596
00:25:38,114 --> 00:25:40,234
Speaker 1: should go see this. I have sent so many people

597
00:25:40,274 --> 00:25:42,674
Speaker 1: to the movies, like my friends and family. My sister

598
00:25:42,754 --> 00:25:44,954
Speaker 1: Lucy went and saw on my recommendation. She goes to

599
00:25:44,994 --> 00:25:47,554
Speaker 1: the movies every four years, liked, and she never listens

600
00:25:47,594 --> 00:25:49,834
Speaker 1: to your recommendation. Sho, Well, she just doesn't listen to

601
00:25:49,874 --> 00:25:51,793
Speaker 1: this pod. Let me tell you. But I was like,

602
00:25:51,874 --> 00:25:53,594
Speaker 1: you and your boyfriend will love this. You have to

603
00:25:53,594 --> 00:25:55,674
Speaker 1: go see it because it is I think the pacing

604
00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:59,834
Speaker 1: is incredible. So it's about just in case anyone's still listening,

605
00:25:59,834 --> 00:26:02,194
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing this and not I just just like, like,

606
00:26:02,234 --> 00:26:04,714
Speaker 1: whose recommendation is this? Because we're both into it. So

607
00:26:04,834 --> 00:26:08,273
Speaker 1: Timothy Challaway plays Mighty Mauso, who so living in nineteen

608
00:26:08,354 --> 00:26:11,033
Speaker 1: fifties New York working in a shoe shop, knows that

609
00:26:11,074 --> 00:26:13,394
Speaker 1: he's destined for a bigger life. He's an incredible ping

610
00:26:13,434 --> 00:26:16,354
Speaker 1: pong player. Yes, this is a movie about ping pong

611
00:26:16,434 --> 00:26:19,954
Speaker 1: table tennis, but makes it feel like the stakes could

612
00:26:19,994 --> 00:26:23,034
Speaker 1: not be higher, like the World Cup. Yeah, makes I'm

613
00:26:23,074 --> 00:26:24,514
Speaker 1: not even bigger than that, makes you feel like you're

614
00:26:24,514 --> 00:26:26,634
Speaker 1: watching a war movie, like the stakes could not be higher.

615
00:26:27,074 --> 00:26:30,033
Speaker 1: Goes off to the World Cup. Odessa a Zion is

616
00:26:30,074 --> 00:26:32,754
Speaker 1: in it as Rachel is so funny watching her on

617
00:26:32,794 --> 00:26:34,714
Speaker 1: the Red Carpets recently, She's like, I can't belive a

618
00:26:34,714 --> 00:26:37,994
Speaker 1: few years I auditioned for an untitled table tennis movie

619
00:26:37,994 --> 00:26:40,634
Speaker 1: and now I'm going to the Oscar plays Rachel, his

620
00:26:40,754 --> 00:26:43,634
Speaker 1: childhood friend and like girlfriend and who is now married

621
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Speaker 1: to someone else. And one of the big standouts is

622
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Speaker 1: it's Gwyneth Paltrow's first return to a leading role in

623
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Speaker 1: over ten years.

624
00:26:50,074 --> 00:26:53,634
Speaker 2: And she Oh, my god, that he's incredible again.

625
00:26:53,434 --> 00:26:55,674
Speaker 1: Like there's a reason she's super famous. Oh yeah, she's

626
00:26:55,714 --> 00:26:57,674
Speaker 1: so good at plays Kay Stone, So she was a

627
00:26:57,754 --> 00:27:00,513
Speaker 1: very famous actress. This is like many years after that

628
00:27:00,554 --> 00:27:03,754
Speaker 1: she's retired and then she and Marty's sort of beginner

629
00:27:04,034 --> 00:27:06,914
Speaker 1: a sexual relationship but also like the one upping each

630
00:27:06,954 --> 00:27:09,634
Speaker 1: other her and just like but also her like desperate

631
00:27:09,674 --> 00:27:13,394
Speaker 1: to return to acting. So that scene that they show

632
00:27:13,474 --> 00:27:16,434
Speaker 1: where her character is on the stage for her like

633
00:27:16,674 --> 00:27:19,874
Speaker 1: return to the acting, and she's like smiling that that

634
00:27:20,074 --> 00:27:22,794
Speaker 1: was the first scene they filmed with Gwyneth Paltrow. So

635
00:27:22,834 --> 00:27:25,674
Speaker 1: that's smile and real. That's her real reaction to being

636
00:27:25,714 --> 00:27:28,513
Speaker 1: back on screen, that moment where she turns around and

637
00:27:28,554 --> 00:27:31,194
Speaker 1: smiles because the audience is like, we're so glad you're back.

638
00:27:31,634 --> 00:27:35,513
Speaker 1: That's Kay's Stone, but it's also Gwyneth Paltrow have been like,

639
00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:37,994
Speaker 1: I'm back leading a movie in ten years and it

640
00:27:38,114 --> 00:27:40,794
Speaker 1: feels amazing, And she in her head, she's like, God,

641
00:27:40,834 --> 00:27:46,434
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking good actress. You can I am gonna

642
00:27:46,514 --> 00:27:48,914
Speaker 1: So I love that. But it's such a good mission.

643
00:27:48,994 --> 00:27:51,394
Speaker 2: And you know what, he does deserve the whim he's

644
00:27:51,434 --> 00:27:52,754
Speaker 2: so good in it.

645
00:27:52,474 --> 00:27:56,194
Speaker 1: Over Michael Beach obviously not obviously, but they should be,

646
00:27:56,274 --> 00:27:59,914
Speaker 1: like at least three people should know. It's such a

647
00:27:59,954 --> 00:28:02,794
Speaker 1: stucked year. Some people sit out this year and we'll

648
00:28:02,834 --> 00:28:05,714
Speaker 1: go again next year with you. But it is so good.

649
00:28:05,714 --> 00:28:07,793
Speaker 1: And I think also like it is so action packed,

650
00:28:07,834 --> 00:28:10,353
Speaker 1: but because it's a just safty movie as well, like

651
00:28:10,554 --> 00:28:12,754
Speaker 1: it just draws you onto all these different worlds and

652
00:28:12,794 --> 00:28:14,474
Speaker 1: like you really added to this lightly, Like I feel

653
00:28:14,474 --> 00:28:16,354
Speaker 1: like you are on the edge of your seat. Yeah,

654
00:28:16,434 --> 00:28:18,314
Speaker 1: by the time that we're getting to the shootout and stuff,

655
00:28:18,314 --> 00:28:20,154
Speaker 1: and I was like, now we're going to another country

656
00:28:20,194 --> 00:28:21,754
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be this and that, and got the

657
00:28:21,754 --> 00:28:24,154
Speaker 1: Paltrow is on stage and she's got a diamond necklace

658
00:28:24,154 --> 00:28:26,434
Speaker 1: and it's just so much. Oh my god, this is

659
00:28:26,434 --> 00:28:27,714
Speaker 1: such a good film.

660
00:28:27,794 --> 00:28:30,114
Speaker 2: I can't wait for everyone to watch it, because, as

661
00:28:30,154 --> 00:28:32,194
Speaker 2: we said before, it is like one of those ones

662
00:28:32,234 --> 00:28:35,313
Speaker 2: where I think we especially with this Oscar run, like

663
00:28:35,354 --> 00:28:37,674
Speaker 2: you have so many options on what movie to watch,

664
00:28:37,874 --> 00:28:40,914
Speaker 2: and not everyone can afford to watch everything in cinema,

665
00:28:40,954 --> 00:28:43,434
Speaker 2: and I think out of all, actually there's one that

666
00:28:43,474 --> 00:28:45,514
Speaker 2: you should watch, but that you can get that on streaming.

667
00:28:45,674 --> 00:28:47,194
Speaker 2: Out of all the ones that are in cinema. This

668
00:28:47,234 --> 00:28:48,674
Speaker 2: is one that you should spend your money on.

669
00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:51,434
Speaker 1: Absolutely one of the ones we very much do recommend.

670
00:28:53,514 --> 00:28:55,754
Speaker 1: All right, so onto it. I don't know if I

671
00:28:55,754 --> 00:28:58,914
Speaker 1: can do this onto our Yeah, you are you feeling nervous?

672
00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:01,314
Speaker 1: Are you getting feeling when we did high school musical? Yeah?

673
00:29:01,314 --> 00:29:04,154
Speaker 2: Because I remember the first time I talked about Sinners

674
00:29:04,354 --> 00:29:06,994
Speaker 2: was straight after the premiere, and I don't think anyone

675
00:29:07,114 --> 00:29:10,114
Speaker 2: watched it until like a month after, until it started

676
00:29:10,114 --> 00:29:11,994
Speaker 2: to get nominated and they're like, what's this little movie?

677
00:29:12,154 --> 00:29:13,914
Speaker 1: Yeah, it did well at the box office, but yeah,

678
00:29:13,914 --> 00:29:16,114
Speaker 1: it wasn't a blockbuster return or anything like that. And

679
00:29:16,154 --> 00:29:17,994
Speaker 1: we didn't. I mean, we talked about so much since,

680
00:29:18,114 --> 00:29:21,554
Speaker 1: especially since it became the most nominated movie in Oscar's history.

681
00:29:21,754 --> 00:29:24,074
Speaker 1: But I missed the premiere. Ecuc had to go babysit

682
00:29:24,154 --> 00:29:27,794
Speaker 1: my nieces and nephews. Honestly, no one appreciated we saw

683
00:29:27,834 --> 00:29:31,114
Speaker 1: that together. Oh my movies we didn't see together. Did

684
00:29:31,114 --> 00:29:33,674
Speaker 1: we see any of them together? I don't. I don't

685
00:29:33,714 --> 00:29:35,914
Speaker 1: think so. Like No, I went to Bigonia an F

686
00:29:35,994 --> 00:29:39,954
Speaker 1: one premiere, and I went to Supreme, okay, and I

687
00:29:39,994 --> 00:29:41,634
Speaker 1: went to Sinners and I went to in a Stepara.

688
00:29:41,714 --> 00:29:44,714
Speaker 1: I bought a Sinners ticket. Yes, that's my one movie

689
00:29:44,714 --> 00:29:47,314
Speaker 1: I've bought ticket. I look at us, Wow, I look

690
00:29:47,314 --> 00:29:49,354
Speaker 1: at us being off the people. No, but I was

691
00:29:49,394 --> 00:29:50,834
Speaker 1: just like, I have to see this. I think I

692
00:29:50,874 --> 00:29:53,554
Speaker 1: got it. On the cusp of Sinners leaving cinemas. There

693
00:29:53,594 --> 00:29:56,714
Speaker 1: was like one yeah, on a like a Tuesday afternoon

694
00:29:56,714 --> 00:29:58,674
Speaker 1: at like five o'clock, and I like ran from the

695
00:29:58,674 --> 00:30:00,354
Speaker 1: office or something like. I was like, I have to

696
00:30:00,394 --> 00:30:02,594
Speaker 1: see this at the cinema, and god, it was so

697
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:03,794
Speaker 1: worth it was so worth it.

698
00:30:03,834 --> 00:30:06,994
Speaker 2: I was really nervous because it came to streaming quite quickly. Yeah,

699
00:30:07,114 --> 00:30:08,394
Speaker 2: which I don't know if this is true, but in

700
00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:10,354
Speaker 2: my head, I'm like, oh, probably wasn't doing that well

701
00:30:10,394 --> 00:30:13,434
Speaker 2: in cinemas, which is why they've still which I'm so

702
00:30:13,474 --> 00:30:16,274
Speaker 2: glad about because I remember when I first talked about Sinners,

703
00:30:16,274 --> 00:30:18,674
Speaker 2: and I remember looking up my notes on what I

704
00:30:18,674 --> 00:30:23,474
Speaker 2: should be saying, and every article I saw was reviews

705
00:30:23,554 --> 00:30:24,194
Speaker 2: of the movie.

706
00:30:24,434 --> 00:30:28,114
Speaker 1: And there were really really bad reviews of Sinners. Do

707
00:30:28,154 --> 00:30:31,594
Speaker 1: you remember this When it first I saw good reviews.

708
00:30:31,634 --> 00:30:34,954
Speaker 2: It was like when it first came out and like massive,

709
00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:38,594
Speaker 2: massive publications. We talked about it briefly on the podcast,

710
00:30:38,834 --> 00:30:40,594
Speaker 2: and I was I must have blocked that out, and

711
00:30:40,634 --> 00:30:41,674
Speaker 2: I was so upset.

712
00:30:41,834 --> 00:30:43,234
Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think you were on. I think we

713
00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:43,874
Speaker 1: had a fill in.

714
00:30:43,914 --> 00:30:46,234
Speaker 2: But I was so upset because like, there were all

715
00:30:46,274 --> 00:30:47,874
Speaker 2: these bad reviews and I was like, where are all

716
00:30:47,874 --> 00:30:50,674
Speaker 2: the good reviews? And then I started seeing tweets from

717
00:30:50,714 --> 00:30:54,074
Speaker 2: other celebrities, and I saw tweets by Pedro, Pascal, Ben

718
00:30:54,154 --> 00:30:58,714
Speaker 2: Stiller calling out these publications, going what are you talking about?

719
00:30:58,754 --> 00:31:02,634
Speaker 2: Sinners is a brilliant, brilliant film. It's an original IP.

720
00:31:03,234 --> 00:31:05,394
Speaker 2: I think what the big thing was was, I think

721
00:31:05,474 --> 00:31:09,754
Speaker 2: a lot of publications had of deals with certain production companies,

722
00:31:09,794 --> 00:31:13,314
Speaker 2: and Sinners was a Warner Brothers production, and there was

723
00:31:13,354 --> 00:31:15,714
Speaker 2: something in the contract between Ryan Coogler, who was a

724
00:31:15,754 --> 00:31:18,794
Speaker 2: creative director of Sinners, and how he wanted to do

725
00:31:18,874 --> 00:31:21,714
Speaker 2: an original IP, which is what this movie was, and

726
00:31:21,754 --> 00:31:23,754
Speaker 2: he wanted like all of these great actors, and he

727
00:31:23,754 --> 00:31:26,074
Speaker 2: didn't want it to be based off a book. And

728
00:31:26,754 --> 00:31:30,914
Speaker 2: it's actually more expensive for production companies to take that risk, absolutely,

729
00:31:30,954 --> 00:31:33,314
Speaker 2: because it was also around the same time where Minecraft

730
00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:34,034
Speaker 2: was going off.

731
00:31:34,194 --> 00:31:35,634
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's like such.

732
00:31:35,434 --> 00:31:37,074
Speaker 2: An easy win for them because like we already have

733
00:31:37,074 --> 00:31:39,474
Speaker 2: an audience, like there's already a fan base for the books,

734
00:31:39,554 --> 00:31:41,714
Speaker 2: there's already fan base for the original movie. We'll just

735
00:31:41,794 --> 00:31:44,434
Speaker 2: keep doing what we're doing. And it's really risky, especially

736
00:31:44,434 --> 00:31:47,194
Speaker 2: in today's day and age, to do an original IP.

737
00:31:47,394 --> 00:31:49,834
Speaker 2: And that was the whole thing. Ben Stella came out,

738
00:31:49,834 --> 00:31:53,314
Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal came out going, you guys are basically ourselves

739
00:31:53,594 --> 00:31:55,994
Speaker 2: because this is a great, great film. And it was

740
00:31:56,034 --> 00:31:58,474
Speaker 2: only then when everyone started watching it and it started

741
00:31:58,474 --> 00:32:01,514
Speaker 2: to become the biggest movie in the box office. Everyone

742
00:32:01,554 --> 00:32:03,394
Speaker 2: was like, this is a brilliant film.

743
00:32:03,474 --> 00:32:05,714
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the audience was just like, we're not listening

744
00:32:05,714 --> 00:32:08,234
Speaker 1: to this. We pack those and they did.

745
00:32:08,234 --> 00:32:11,234
Speaker 2: Also also calling out the publications rightly so because it

746
00:32:11,274 --> 00:32:13,354
Speaker 2: was I mean, you can have your opinion, but when

747
00:32:13,394 --> 00:32:15,994
Speaker 2: the opinions the same opinion just been printed at different fonts.

748
00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:18,354
Speaker 1: And also, I mean this is also something we always

749
00:32:18,354 --> 00:32:20,034
Speaker 1: face with anything that has like a bit of a

750
00:32:20,034 --> 00:32:22,114
Speaker 1: mythology or anything like that. Like you know how I

751
00:32:22,154 --> 00:32:25,194
Speaker 1: feel like about like superhero movies, vampire movies, all those

752
00:32:25,234 --> 00:32:27,474
Speaker 1: sorts of things can be incredible movies just because they

753
00:32:27,514 --> 00:32:29,914
Speaker 1: deal with mythical elements. And so I think with this,

754
00:32:30,074 --> 00:32:33,634
Speaker 1: like it wasn't enough of like a full on vampire

755
00:32:33,754 --> 00:32:37,074
Speaker 1: movie monster movie for that crowd. And it also wasn't

756
00:32:37,194 --> 00:32:39,274
Speaker 1: enough of the drama because of the monster movie for

757
00:32:39,314 --> 00:32:40,834
Speaker 1: the drama crowd. There was a little bit of this

758
00:32:40,914 --> 00:32:42,434
Speaker 1: and a little bit of yeah. So everyone was like,

759
00:32:42,474 --> 00:32:44,714
Speaker 1: this isn't my movie, This isn't what I expected. It's like,

760
00:32:44,754 --> 00:32:48,794
Speaker 1: it's across the genre, guys, genre to live outside the

761
00:32:48,794 --> 00:32:51,274
Speaker 1: little box that you live in. Oh not us defending

762
00:32:51,274 --> 00:32:54,554
Speaker 1: the most successful movie of the year. There's little known

763
00:32:54,634 --> 00:32:59,074
Speaker 1: movie centers the Oscars record, the more I like read

764
00:32:59,074 --> 00:33:01,794
Speaker 1: about this movie and get into like Ryan Coogler's like

765
00:33:01,954 --> 00:33:04,114
Speaker 1: thinking of it, like it's based off his relationship with

766
00:33:04,114 --> 00:33:07,114
Speaker 1: his uncle who like was passing away from terminal cancer,

767
00:33:07,114 --> 00:33:08,554
Speaker 1: and obviously that is like, you know, kind of a

768
00:33:08,594 --> 00:33:10,954
Speaker 1: final scene in the movie, and who taught him about

769
00:33:11,034 --> 00:33:13,474
Speaker 1: jazz and all these different things. And he started piecing

770
00:33:13,514 --> 00:33:16,594
Speaker 1: it together and like, Michael B. Jordan, can I just

771
00:33:16,634 --> 00:33:19,314
Speaker 1: say something really close to do? And I forgot their name,

772
00:33:19,394 --> 00:33:20,914
Speaker 1: so I might have to look it up later. But

773
00:33:21,074 --> 00:33:24,234
Speaker 1: as you know, I was in India, yes a week

774
00:33:24,314 --> 00:33:27,434
Speaker 1: before last there was a music festival that was happening

775
00:33:27,474 --> 00:33:31,154
Speaker 1: in Bandra which is a place in Bombay and it

776
00:33:31,234 --> 00:33:35,234
Speaker 1: was a jazz music festival and the composer of the

777
00:33:35,434 --> 00:33:38,434
Speaker 1: jazz songs in Sinners was there. Oh my god, did

778
00:33:38,434 --> 00:33:39,274
Speaker 1: you fang away?

779
00:33:39,594 --> 00:33:42,714
Speaker 2: I like screamed when I found Oh my god, I

780
00:33:42,794 --> 00:33:45,154
Speaker 2: was like I'm basically I basically met Michael B.

781
00:33:45,314 --> 00:33:47,794
Speaker 1: Jordan. That's like better than beaning Bride Pitt at this

782
00:33:47,834 --> 00:33:50,914
Speaker 1: time and place. It really is. It's just everything about

783
00:33:50,954 --> 00:33:53,274
Speaker 1: like the different layers is like the history of like

784
00:33:53,714 --> 00:33:55,554
Speaker 1: the like the people who lived in that area, and

785
00:33:55,554 --> 00:33:58,074
Speaker 1: then the history of jazz music. But then also they

786
00:33:58,154 --> 00:34:01,674
Speaker 1: had a specialized voodoo practitioner, g you don't know this

787
00:34:01,794 --> 00:34:04,794
Speaker 1: on set who was taking them through like not voodoo

788
00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:06,514
Speaker 1: in like it's this crazy magic thing, but like the

789
00:34:06,554 --> 00:34:09,553
Speaker 1: history of it, how it like intertwines and all these things.

790
00:34:09,554 --> 00:34:11,194
Speaker 1: And they had like a professor who also has like

791
00:34:11,194 --> 00:34:13,354
Speaker 1: written books about it to be on set and like

792
00:34:13,393 --> 00:34:15,913
Speaker 1: being part of the consultation to be like, no, this

793
00:34:15,994 --> 00:34:17,754
Speaker 1: is like real voodoo and this is what we're having.

794
00:34:17,794 --> 00:34:20,194
Speaker 1: That's why it feels so real. Even Michael B. Jordan

795
00:34:20,234 --> 00:34:22,834
Speaker 1: had other filmmakers who are twins who are friends with

796
00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:25,714
Speaker 1: Ryan Kugler, who were the twin consultants on the film,

797
00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,514
Speaker 1: and they worked with Michael B. Jordan all the way through,

798
00:34:28,794 --> 00:34:30,354
Speaker 1: and he's like, they taught me what it was like

799
00:34:30,394 --> 00:34:33,433
Speaker 1: to share a room with someone. That's why, that's why

800
00:34:33,474 --> 00:34:36,594
Speaker 1: he changes his face. You have Sometimes it's both, Michael B. Jordan,

801
00:34:36,674 --> 00:34:39,953
Speaker 1: but like, but it's not sometimes two different people. So

802
00:34:40,114 --> 00:34:43,754
Speaker 1: forget it's him playing two characters. Sometimes one of like,

803
00:34:43,754 --> 00:34:46,393
Speaker 1: like Smoke will like raise his eyebrows in one way.

804
00:34:46,474 --> 00:34:49,073
Speaker 1: Stack doesn't do that. Stack will like rub his nose

805
00:34:49,074 --> 00:34:51,554
Speaker 1: in a certain way. Smoke doesn't do that. One of

806
00:34:51,594 --> 00:34:53,914
Speaker 1: them had dimples. One of them did it? Michael B.

807
00:34:54,074 --> 00:34:58,074
Speaker 2: Jordan, Is you do that the like? I don't know, Like, oh, guys,

808
00:34:58,114 --> 00:34:58,913
Speaker 2: he deserves to win.

809
00:34:59,234 --> 00:35:01,674
Speaker 1: He should win that Oscar. Come on, he plays.

810
00:35:01,314 --> 00:35:05,634
Speaker 2: Two Oscar worthy roles in one film. Like he should

811
00:35:05,634 --> 00:35:07,674
Speaker 2: have been nominated twice for Smoke for Stack.

812
00:35:07,834 --> 00:35:10,354
Speaker 1: That would have I would have loved that song. Imagine

813
00:35:10,394 --> 00:35:11,913
Speaker 1: like as if he did, it could have gone Best

814
00:35:11,954 --> 00:35:16,034
Speaker 1: Supporting and Best Actor and been in both categories, because.

815
00:35:15,834 --> 00:35:18,674
Speaker 2: Surely Smoke is best Actor and Stack is best Supporting.

816
00:35:18,874 --> 00:35:23,394
Speaker 2: Yeah so, And I think they like had the element

817
00:35:23,474 --> 00:35:27,274
Speaker 2: that was like so childish of making like Smoke always

818
00:35:27,314 --> 00:35:29,354
Speaker 2: wear blue and Stack always wear red, which is like

819
00:35:29,354 --> 00:35:30,794
Speaker 2: what you see in kids shows when you want to

820
00:35:30,794 --> 00:35:33,953
Speaker 2: differentiate twins. And I think that was so clever. But

821
00:35:33,994 --> 00:35:37,474
Speaker 2: it's also like really funny, so funny, like the folks

822
00:35:37,474 --> 00:35:39,034
Speaker 2: songs are so catchy.

823
00:35:38,754 --> 00:35:40,873
Speaker 1: The folks, and you know that, like it went through

824
00:35:40,914 --> 00:35:43,074
Speaker 1: so many kind of like different ideations to land in

825
00:35:43,114 --> 00:35:45,953
Speaker 1: this perfect spot. You know that big song and dance

826
00:35:46,074 --> 00:35:51,194
Speaker 1: number in the gin joint and when all the spirits

827
00:35:51,234 --> 00:35:53,394
Speaker 1: come in that was not in any of the original drafts.

828
00:35:53,394 --> 00:35:55,234
Speaker 1: That was like a late entry and so you see

829
00:35:55,314 --> 00:35:57,433
Speaker 1: now you like just makes the movie. But yeah, it's

830
00:35:57,754 --> 00:36:00,553
Speaker 1: it's so funny. And also like when they think that

831
00:36:00,554 --> 00:36:02,754
Speaker 1: that guy is like being bitten, they take him outside

832
00:36:02,754 --> 00:36:08,234
Speaker 1: and he was just asleep. He wakes up core posts

833
00:36:08,234 --> 00:36:10,433
Speaker 1: coming from the sun. I was like, why does the

834
00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:11,513
Speaker 1: funniest thing of ever seen?

835
00:36:13,754 --> 00:36:17,794
Speaker 2: It's not like slapstick comedy, but it's like genuinely how

836
00:36:17,954 --> 00:36:19,914
Speaker 2: people would react if people got.

837
00:36:21,434 --> 00:36:23,234
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know what happening should get everyone out.

838
00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:25,194
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was so good, as you know,

839
00:36:25,234 --> 00:36:27,594
Speaker 1: I love a vampire movie. I don't even know if

840
00:36:27,594 --> 00:36:29,473
Speaker 1: there's a vampire movie in the world. I haven't seen

841
00:36:29,594 --> 00:36:33,314
Speaker 1: because I go looking for them. I go on to

842
00:36:33,594 --> 00:36:35,954
Speaker 1: vampires go looking for people. Yeah, I go looking for

843
00:36:36,074 --> 00:36:38,754
Speaker 1: vampire movies. I have been on every streaming service in

844
00:36:38,794 --> 00:36:42,794
Speaker 1: the weeds being like I type in like vampire, Dracula, bloodsuckers,

845
00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:44,913
Speaker 1: anything to get like a keyword to come up. Have

846
00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:48,274
Speaker 1: you ever written you're like you're ranking of best vampires. No,

847
00:36:48,354 --> 00:36:50,274
Speaker 1: but we did a vampire podcast once and I got

848
00:36:50,274 --> 00:36:52,274
Speaker 1: in the weeds with like you weren't here, but we

849
00:36:52,314 --> 00:36:55,433
Speaker 1: could revisit all my favorite vampire movies. But I look

850
00:36:55,514 --> 00:36:57,354
Speaker 1: for ones I haven't seen. I have. I think I've

851
00:36:57,394 --> 00:36:59,514
Speaker 1: seen them all. Wow, So where is this fall in

852
00:36:59,554 --> 00:37:03,554
Speaker 1: the vampire scale? Top just remembering I've seen all of them?

853
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,873
Speaker 1: Top five for sure. That's pretty hard vampire movies there, Ah,

854
00:37:07,234 --> 00:37:11,433
Speaker 1: I can imagine so many and just and one of

855
00:37:11,434 --> 00:37:13,794
Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time Bram Stokers Jracula is

856
00:37:13,834 --> 00:37:16,274
Speaker 1: a vampire movie. But this is up there. Wow, this

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Speaker 1: is up there.

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Speaker 2: I just hope they win all the Oscars. I hope

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Speaker 2: they win the Ensemble Oscar as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's month the pit won the SAG didn't they Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you hope they win Best Picture.

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Speaker 2: I hope they win the Best Picture. I hope Michael B.

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Speaker 2: Jordan wins Best Actor. So what do you think. Do

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Speaker 2: you think he's got a chance.

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Speaker 1: The SAgs were a big surprise. I know they called

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Speaker 1: the Actor Awards. Now that was a very late curve

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Speaker 1: ball that no one was expecting. And when looking at

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Speaker 1: their room looked like everyone, Oh, they were so shocked.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because that's the biggest voting crossover. Lots of

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Speaker 1: people like, oh, they won the Golden Globe, they won

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Speaker 1: the Bafter. There's not a lot of voting crossover, and

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Speaker 1: with Golden Globes there's none. But what the Golden Globes

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Speaker 1: can do is like, if you win that and you

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Speaker 1: have a big moment, give an incredible speech, and it

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Speaker 1: gives you traction for your campaign. But it's not the

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Speaker 1: same people voting. But with the Screen Actors Guild, they're

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Speaker 1: the same people in the Academy who are voting. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's one hundred percent going to translate. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't always, but he's got good chances. It's upped his chances.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't, to be honest, Michael B. Jordan up until

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Speaker 1: this moment, in like the Broader Oscar sense was not

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Speaker 1: in the running for an Oscar. He wasn't winning. He's

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Speaker 1: officially nominated, but everyone's like it's Timothy Charmee one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And then potentially Leo as a wild card swing only

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Speaker 1: because of the Well I wonder IFU le I know,

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Speaker 1: because he didn't go the SAgs and he doesn't usually

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Speaker 1: miss those things if he thinks he's probably gonna win. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: but so who knows. Maybe something happened, maybe his yacht

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Speaker 1: like was sinking or something. We don't know. The only

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Speaker 1: reason that was maybe Leonardo was going to come in

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Speaker 1: over the top of Timothy Chalamee for the Oscars is

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Speaker 1: that the Oscars traditionally don't like to give it to well,

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Speaker 1: they never give it to any man under thirty. They

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Speaker 1: do for women all the time because I like, of

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Speaker 1: this beautiful young girl, let's give her an oscar before

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Speaker 1: she turns twenty five and becomes ugly. But timoth Say's

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Speaker 1: thirty one. Yeah, so he's just got over the cusps

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Speaker 1: because Adrian Brody was previously the youngest Oscar winner at thirty,

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Speaker 1: So Timothy's just got over there. It was just eligible

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Speaker 1: in the eyes of the Oscars, but they usually like

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Speaker 1: to give it to men in their fifties or at

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Speaker 1: least forties or sixties who have proven their real actors. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's the only reason I thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to swing for Leonardo. But Michael B. Jordan, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's pretty much done with the Oscar voting now. It

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Speaker 1: was a bit too late. But also, Sinners is interesting

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Speaker 1: because it is the most nominated movie of all time,

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Speaker 1: but it was actually projected to be the most nominated

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Speaker 1: movie that has like one of the most losses because

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Speaker 1: it was in every category, but it wasn't really tipped

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Speaker 1: to win anything except potentially Best Screenplay because Paul Thomas

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Speaker 1: Anderson has a lock on everything else with one battlelaughter another.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, you know what, it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: good show even if Sinners doesn't win. I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: that is the one movie we'll still be talking about

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Speaker 1: in ten years time. And sometimes that's better than winning

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Speaker 1: an Oscar. Sometimes being the movie that becomes people's favorite

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Speaker 1: movie is better than being the one who has like

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Speaker 1: one night of glory on the Oscar stage and then

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Speaker 1: we don't talk about it in five years.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I go watch Sinners Please go watch

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Speaker 2: so good, listen to Ben Stiller.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I Pedro.

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