1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mama Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,345 --> 00:00:18,385 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:21,425 Speaker 1: is recorded on. This was the one moist drizer I had. 4 00:00:21,585 --> 00:00:25,465 Speaker 1: So this formula is so beautiful and it's very good 5 00:00:25,625 --> 00:00:29,905 Speaker 1: for those with an impacted microbira or impacted skin barrier. 6 00:00:30,105 --> 00:00:32,025 Speaker 1: So when you apply it to your face, it almost 7 00:00:32,025 --> 00:00:33,705 Speaker 1: feels like it's giving you like a hug. 8 00:00:34,545 --> 00:00:36,025 Speaker 2: Makeup is my therapy. 9 00:00:36,265 --> 00:00:39,265 Speaker 1: I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel 10 00:00:39,345 --> 00:00:40,105 Speaker 1: jailty about it. 11 00:00:42,625 --> 00:00:45,585 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for 12 00:00:45,665 --> 00:00:48,905 Speaker 3: your Face. I'm Aaron Dougherty and welcome to the Formula. 13 00:00:48,945 --> 00:00:51,305 Speaker 3: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of 14 00:00:51,345 --> 00:00:53,865 Speaker 3: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into 15 00:00:53,905 --> 00:00:57,425 Speaker 3: their skincare routines. And sitting in the studio with me 16 00:00:57,505 --> 00:01:01,745 Speaker 3: today is Shinta Hun. She's a leading product developer, so 17 00:01:01,985 --> 00:01:05,545 Speaker 3: she's behind the innovation and creation of some of the 18 00:01:05,585 --> 00:01:10,185 Speaker 3: world's biggest brands and cult beauty buys. Her experience spans 19 00:01:10,225 --> 00:01:15,105 Speaker 3: across skincare, hair care, body care, sexual wellness, and baby 20 00:01:15,505 --> 00:01:17,745 Speaker 3: so she literally lives and. 21 00:01:17,745 --> 00:01:20,225 Speaker 2: Breathes beauty and wellness. 22 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:24,465 Speaker 3: From cutting edge innovations to sleek packaging designs. Shinta is 23 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:27,825 Speaker 3: always ahead of the curve, and her job often takes 24 00:01:27,825 --> 00:01:30,785 Speaker 3: her to places like Korea and Hong Kong to attend 25 00:01:30,865 --> 00:01:34,185 Speaker 3: beauty conferences and learn all about the latest beauty trends 26 00:01:34,225 --> 00:01:37,305 Speaker 3: and ingredients. So she's here to cut through the noise 27 00:01:37,385 --> 00:01:39,865 Speaker 3: and tell us all the products that she uses to 28 00:01:39,945 --> 00:01:43,265 Speaker 3: keep her skin happy. And we'll chat about protecting your 29 00:01:43,305 --> 00:01:46,905 Speaker 3: skin barrier and the role that your microbiome plays if 30 00:01:46,905 --> 00:01:49,785 Speaker 3: you actually want clear skin. If you don't know what 31 00:01:49,785 --> 00:01:52,865 Speaker 3: that means, don't worry. We'll explain. Plus a bit of 32 00:01:52,985 --> 00:01:56,345 Speaker 3: deep dive into the fear mongering online when it comes. 33 00:01:56,185 --> 00:01:58,705 Speaker 2: To quote good or bad skin ingredients. 34 00:01:59,025 --> 00:02:01,865 Speaker 3: It turns out things aren't all black and white, so 35 00:02:01,985 --> 00:02:03,705 Speaker 3: we've got an expert in to explain it. 36 00:02:04,105 --> 00:02:07,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, such beautiful skin, but how. 37 00:02:09,105 --> 00:02:12,185 Speaker 3: Shind Thank you so much for being here. I cannot 38 00:02:12,225 --> 00:02:14,505 Speaker 3: wait to pick your brain about all of the things. 39 00:02:14,985 --> 00:02:18,865 Speaker 3: Being a product developer, you've obviously come across some of. 40 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:20,465 Speaker 2: The biggest innovations in beauty. 41 00:02:21,105 --> 00:02:23,665 Speaker 3: What's probably one of the biggest skincare tips that you've 42 00:02:23,705 --> 00:02:24,745 Speaker 3: picked up along the way. 43 00:02:25,105 --> 00:02:31,185 Speaker 1: I am constantly surrounded by innovations, skincare packaging formulas, and 44 00:02:31,265 --> 00:02:34,585 Speaker 1: it's so hard not to like try all these different things. 45 00:02:34,945 --> 00:02:39,105 Speaker 1: But for me, what has really helped me is just 46 00:02:39,305 --> 00:02:42,665 Speaker 1: tailoring my skin care routine. So for me, how I 47 00:02:42,705 --> 00:02:45,345 Speaker 1: tailor my skin care routine, I have quite sensitive skin 48 00:02:45,385 --> 00:02:48,465 Speaker 1: and I've got exma, So I'm all about achieving like 49 00:02:48,505 --> 00:02:52,505 Speaker 1: a healthy microbiome or achieving a healthy skin barrier. I'll 50 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:54,985 Speaker 1: always try a new product, but I'm always focus on 51 00:02:55,065 --> 00:02:58,985 Speaker 1: feeding my skin with the right ingredients it needs. And 52 00:02:59,105 --> 00:03:02,665 Speaker 1: skin cycling that has changed my life. I've skipped back 53 00:03:03,065 --> 00:03:06,585 Speaker 1: so many different products and pretty much skin cycling is 54 00:03:06,625 --> 00:03:10,265 Speaker 1: all about regenerating your skin and it's all aboutnewing it. 55 00:03:10,385 --> 00:03:11,945 Speaker 1: So I have like a timetable. 56 00:03:12,305 --> 00:03:14,665 Speaker 3: So skin cycling, just for people that don't know what 57 00:03:14,745 --> 00:03:17,065 Speaker 3: it is, is when you literally. 58 00:03:16,745 --> 00:03:19,585 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, like a time table. Yeah, what products you 59 00:03:19,665 --> 00:03:20,745 Speaker 2: use on what day end of the week. 60 00:03:20,785 --> 00:03:22,385 Speaker 1: You know, I want a little glow on the weekend. 61 00:03:22,945 --> 00:03:25,665 Speaker 1: On a Thursday, I'll use my chemical exfoliator so I'll 62 00:03:25,665 --> 00:03:29,825 Speaker 1: get my skin ready. And then on the Friday at night, 63 00:03:29,905 --> 00:03:31,665 Speaker 1: I'll use a red Knoll because I'm like, you know what, 64 00:03:31,865 --> 00:03:32,705 Speaker 1: need a brighten up? 65 00:03:32,905 --> 00:03:34,625 Speaker 4: Need it even out? Myself time. 66 00:03:35,025 --> 00:03:36,745 Speaker 1: Ye set me up for the week, and then the 67 00:03:36,785 --> 00:03:39,505 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, I'll go in with a physical scrub and 68 00:03:39,545 --> 00:03:42,505 Speaker 1: then the remaining days is all about repair and hydration, so. 69 00:03:42,465 --> 00:03:44,425 Speaker 4: I'll focus on that. And your skin is. 70 00:03:44,345 --> 00:03:47,505 Speaker 1: So healthy, it's glowing, and you realize that, you know what, 71 00:03:47,625 --> 00:03:49,785 Speaker 1: I don't need all these products, so you just really 72 00:03:49,785 --> 00:03:50,905 Speaker 1: focus on the basics. 73 00:03:51,225 --> 00:03:53,305 Speaker 3: I can't wait to get into what you use and 74 00:03:53,345 --> 00:03:56,265 Speaker 3: when this sounds like it's very mapped out to the team, 75 00:03:56,345 --> 00:03:58,865 Speaker 3: you know, Before we get into the specific products, I 76 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,505 Speaker 3: want to ask you because you recently wrote an article 77 00:04:01,505 --> 00:04:05,185 Speaker 3: for Mamamea on some of the top products that you've 78 00:04:05,305 --> 00:04:08,065 Speaker 3: used that as a product developer would recommend. 79 00:04:08,345 --> 00:04:10,545 Speaker 2: You also said that you recently went to Korea. 80 00:04:10,665 --> 00:04:12,705 Speaker 3: Yes, I want to know what that was like and 81 00:04:12,745 --> 00:04:14,905 Speaker 3: if you can tell me a little bit about the 82 00:04:14,985 --> 00:04:18,225 Speaker 3: skincare seaeah and did you also just bring an empty 83 00:04:18,265 --> 00:04:19,505 Speaker 3: suitcase with you and fill it up? 84 00:04:19,745 --> 00:04:22,425 Speaker 4: Okay, I've been to Korea before and I love Korea. 85 00:04:22,585 --> 00:04:24,225 Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to come home. I was like, 86 00:04:24,305 --> 00:04:26,465 Speaker 1: I'm not coming home. I actually had to buy another 87 00:04:26,505 --> 00:04:31,145 Speaker 1: luggage because I went crazy. I researched all different skin treatments, 88 00:04:31,185 --> 00:04:33,145 Speaker 1: I had to get and like all the different products. 89 00:04:33,145 --> 00:04:36,785 Speaker 1: So I spent some time on TikTok because they have 90 00:04:36,865 --> 00:04:40,545 Speaker 1: a store. Yeah, they have a store in Korea called 91 00:04:40,545 --> 00:04:43,465 Speaker 1: Olive Young, and there's an Olive Young every suburb and 92 00:04:43,505 --> 00:04:45,905 Speaker 1: it's pretty much like a mecha so for a chemist 93 00:04:45,945 --> 00:04:48,705 Speaker 1: warehouse or in one and when you walk in there, 94 00:04:48,745 --> 00:04:51,465 Speaker 1: you just get so overwhelmed. At the same time, you 95 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:54,025 Speaker 1: get fomo because you're like, I need to buy this product, 96 00:04:54,225 --> 00:04:55,905 Speaker 1: but I also need to buy this because I'm never 97 00:04:55,945 --> 00:04:58,305 Speaker 1: coming back. I think I've went to Olive Young at 98 00:04:58,385 --> 00:04:59,385 Speaker 1: least ten times. 99 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:02,105 Speaker 4: Well, like I need this hair. 100 00:05:02,345 --> 00:05:04,825 Speaker 3: Travel degree, but I spent a lot of time in 101 00:05:04,825 --> 00:05:05,865 Speaker 3: one particular place. 102 00:05:06,065 --> 00:05:08,865 Speaker 1: Korea is amazing if you love skincare, if you love me, 103 00:05:09,105 --> 00:05:12,185 Speaker 1: They're just advance even like their beauty stores, Like you 104 00:05:12,265 --> 00:05:14,265 Speaker 1: walk in and you can go make your own foundation. 105 00:05:14,745 --> 00:05:17,665 Speaker 1: There's like cafes in there. Every store is so beautiful 106 00:05:17,745 --> 00:05:19,745 Speaker 1: and the people around there are beautiful too. 107 00:05:19,905 --> 00:05:23,745 Speaker 2: They really make it an experience, and it's like experience. 108 00:05:23,745 --> 00:05:25,865 Speaker 1: You can take photos, you can do this. There's like 109 00:05:25,945 --> 00:05:28,625 Speaker 1: little areas where you can take some Instagram stuff and 110 00:05:29,145 --> 00:05:30,025 Speaker 1: it's just fun. 111 00:05:30,105 --> 00:05:30,945 Speaker 4: Like I love career. 112 00:05:31,105 --> 00:05:33,505 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to hear what you picked out and 113 00:05:33,545 --> 00:05:35,625 Speaker 3: what you now use in your routine. So let's get 114 00:05:35,625 --> 00:05:36,465 Speaker 3: into the good stuff. 115 00:05:38,065 --> 00:05:40,425 Speaker 2: I mean, what is your self carerot give us. 116 00:05:40,305 --> 00:05:41,225 Speaker 4: The dirty details. 117 00:05:44,225 --> 00:05:47,865 Speaker 1: Okay, in the morning, I would cleanse my face. So 118 00:05:48,065 --> 00:05:50,625 Speaker 1: I'm a very basic girl. I actually use the Seravi 119 00:05:50,785 --> 00:05:55,065 Speaker 1: cleanser and it's got seramis. I love seramis. I'm all 120 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:59,265 Speaker 1: about improving the skin barrier for me. This cleanser is 121 00:05:59,305 --> 00:06:01,745 Speaker 1: the one product I recommend to both boys and girls. 122 00:06:01,745 --> 00:06:03,625 Speaker 1: So I actually get a lot of guys and girls 123 00:06:03,665 --> 00:06:05,945 Speaker 1: asking me for skin routines, and I'm like, this is 124 00:06:05,985 --> 00:06:06,745 Speaker 1: the cleansing you need. 125 00:06:06,945 --> 00:06:08,225 Speaker 2: It's what one's your favorite? 126 00:06:08,345 --> 00:06:12,265 Speaker 1: The serav Hydrating. It's so easy, it doesn't strip your skin. 127 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:15,625 Speaker 1: When I was going through my exsasure attack, like, this 128 00:06:15,705 --> 00:06:18,865 Speaker 1: is the one product that just helped calm it. Everything 129 00:06:18,905 --> 00:06:21,385 Speaker 1: else just made my skin feel really tight. And this 130 00:06:21,425 --> 00:06:22,545 Speaker 1: product is so cheap. 131 00:06:22,625 --> 00:06:23,025 Speaker 2: I love it. 132 00:06:23,065 --> 00:06:24,945 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of that one as well. Yeah, 133 00:06:24,985 --> 00:06:27,985 Speaker 3: so what do you use In terms of serums serums? 134 00:06:28,025 --> 00:06:31,625 Speaker 1: I would use the Beauty of Josent Glow serum. I've 135 00:06:31,665 --> 00:06:33,865 Speaker 1: been using this serum for quite some time, and I 136 00:06:33,945 --> 00:06:36,865 Speaker 1: went to Korea and actually purchased like one of each 137 00:06:36,945 --> 00:06:37,785 Speaker 1: for my girlfriends. 138 00:06:38,505 --> 00:06:39,545 Speaker 4: It's the best serum. 139 00:06:39,585 --> 00:06:42,905 Speaker 1: It's just very light and it's got nice cinnamide, it's 140 00:06:42,905 --> 00:06:43,665 Speaker 1: got propolis. 141 00:06:44,065 --> 00:06:46,265 Speaker 2: Tell me about that ingredient, because what is that? I 142 00:06:46,305 --> 00:06:47,385 Speaker 2: know what nice? I did. 143 00:06:47,505 --> 00:06:51,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like honey almost, and it's very calming and 144 00:06:51,105 --> 00:06:53,825 Speaker 1: it's very soothing. And what I love about this serum 145 00:06:53,865 --> 00:06:56,625 Speaker 1: if you are irritated or more sensitive, like, it just 146 00:06:56,705 --> 00:06:59,345 Speaker 1: helps calm it and it gives you a really healthy 147 00:06:59,385 --> 00:07:00,065 Speaker 1: morning glow. 148 00:07:00,225 --> 00:07:00,865 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 149 00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:02,785 Speaker 3: And you can get it on Adoor Beauty as well. 150 00:07:02,865 --> 00:07:04,865 Speaker 3: And I looked it up and I was like, oh, hello. 151 00:07:04,905 --> 00:07:06,065 Speaker 4: You can get it on a door Beauty. 152 00:07:06,105 --> 00:07:08,625 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stores that have it now, which 153 00:07:08,665 --> 00:07:10,745 Speaker 1: is great, and it's super affordable. 154 00:07:10,785 --> 00:07:13,505 Speaker 3: I think it's thirty seven bit. Yeah, Adoor Beauty has 155 00:07:13,505 --> 00:07:16,865 Speaker 3: a sail one right now. Yeah, just FYI, what else 156 00:07:16,945 --> 00:07:17,745 Speaker 3: is on the list? 157 00:07:17,945 --> 00:07:21,465 Speaker 1: I have the anore tonapads. This was one of the 158 00:07:21,465 --> 00:07:23,865 Speaker 1: products that came up on TikTok quite a lot. 159 00:07:23,905 --> 00:07:25,785 Speaker 3: Okay, so you picked this one up in Korea, but 160 00:07:25,825 --> 00:07:27,345 Speaker 3: I believe you can also get a. 161 00:07:27,305 --> 00:07:29,625 Speaker 1: Lot of Yeah, yeah, yeah, I found it on TikTok 162 00:07:30,145 --> 00:07:33,025 Speaker 1: and my skin was so crazy when I was overseas 163 00:07:33,025 --> 00:07:36,425 Speaker 1: because I went from Sydney extreme heat to muggy Hong 164 00:07:36,505 --> 00:07:39,745 Speaker 1: Kong to like super cold in Creer. So my skin 165 00:07:39,825 --> 00:07:42,785 Speaker 1: was congested, it was tight, it was dry, like she 166 00:07:42,945 --> 00:07:47,105 Speaker 1: was so confused, I need something asap. So I had 167 00:07:47,145 --> 00:07:49,705 Speaker 1: actually picked up this product and I used it when 168 00:07:49,705 --> 00:07:50,665 Speaker 1: I got back home, and. 169 00:07:50,625 --> 00:07:51,985 Speaker 4: It is so calming. 170 00:07:52,265 --> 00:07:53,225 Speaker 2: What is it is it? 171 00:07:53,225 --> 00:07:57,665 Speaker 1: It's like a pad, but they're soaked in a formula, okay, 172 00:07:57,865 --> 00:08:00,825 Speaker 1: and I believe it's got evening primrose oil, so it's 173 00:08:00,985 --> 00:08:03,745 Speaker 1: very calming. It's really good if you've got congested skin, 174 00:08:04,105 --> 00:08:06,305 Speaker 1: but it's really good if you also got sensitive skin. 175 00:08:06,425 --> 00:08:09,185 Speaker 1: So it's non irritating. And I actually brought it on 176 00:08:09,225 --> 00:08:11,345 Speaker 1: the plane me and I just left it on my 177 00:08:11,425 --> 00:08:13,345 Speaker 1: cheeks because around my cheeks felt. 178 00:08:13,105 --> 00:08:15,065 Speaker 2: A little tight, So you left like two little. 179 00:08:15,545 --> 00:08:17,665 Speaker 1: Little pads instead of a face mask, and I just 180 00:08:17,745 --> 00:08:20,065 Speaker 1: let it sit there to kind of soak in everything. 181 00:08:20,185 --> 00:08:22,305 Speaker 2: So how often would you use that in your normal retail? 182 00:08:22,425 --> 00:08:24,825 Speaker 3: I would use this morning and night, okay, so it 183 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:26,025 Speaker 3: must be pretty gentle. 184 00:08:26,145 --> 00:08:29,865 Speaker 1: It's very gentle. Definitely recommend this for anyone with sensitive skin. 185 00:08:30,025 --> 00:08:31,785 Speaker 3: I need to get on it. So what do you 186 00:08:31,905 --> 00:08:33,545 Speaker 3: use In terms of moisturizer. 187 00:08:34,105 --> 00:08:37,585 Speaker 1: I love the Cores Probotic Intense cream. 188 00:08:37,745 --> 00:08:40,465 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not a newbie, that's been a red product. 189 00:08:40,785 --> 00:08:44,025 Speaker 1: But with me, I had so many things in my luggage. 190 00:08:44,065 --> 00:08:48,025 Speaker 1: I had so much makeup, so much haircare, so much 191 00:08:48,025 --> 00:08:51,465 Speaker 1: body care. I overpacked, but I only had one moisturizer 192 00:08:51,865 --> 00:08:54,625 Speaker 1: and this was the one moisturizer I had. And she 193 00:08:54,865 --> 00:08:58,545 Speaker 1: was my best friend. So this formula is so beautiful 194 00:08:58,945 --> 00:09:02,705 Speaker 1: and it's very good for those with an impacted microbio 195 00:09:02,945 --> 00:09:07,425 Speaker 1: or impacted skin barrier. And it's got probotics, it's got 196 00:09:07,545 --> 00:09:11,465 Speaker 1: soyer oil, I believe, and it is like a melting formula, 197 00:09:11,545 --> 00:09:13,425 Speaker 1: so when you apply it to your face, it almost 198 00:09:13,465 --> 00:09:15,145 Speaker 1: feels like it's giving you like a hug. 199 00:09:15,305 --> 00:09:17,265 Speaker 2: Oh we love. It's so a fitting hug. 200 00:09:17,465 --> 00:09:18,625 Speaker 4: But it's amazing. 201 00:09:18,705 --> 00:09:21,705 Speaker 1: And again I always recommend this product to everyone, and 202 00:09:21,745 --> 00:09:24,785 Speaker 1: it's good for all different skin types. It's just good 203 00:09:24,825 --> 00:09:26,945 Speaker 1: for all seasons. As I said, I was going from 204 00:09:26,985 --> 00:09:30,025 Speaker 1: a muggy Hong Kong to super cold in career. Even 205 00:09:30,065 --> 00:09:31,825 Speaker 1: my girlfriend had to use this because she was like, 206 00:09:31,865 --> 00:09:33,785 Speaker 1: my skin is so dry, like what do you have? 207 00:09:34,185 --> 00:09:35,705 Speaker 1: And this was the product she also used. 208 00:09:35,745 --> 00:09:46,425 Speaker 3: Oh we love it, Drive skin girls. Let's delve into 209 00:09:46,425 --> 00:09:49,825 Speaker 3: your night routine. Where do we start there? 210 00:09:50,425 --> 00:09:53,585 Speaker 1: My night routine is I say, it's kind of different 211 00:09:53,625 --> 00:09:56,425 Speaker 1: each day because of my whole skin cycling. But one 212 00:09:56,505 --> 00:09:59,145 Speaker 1: product that I love to use at night, and I 213 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:02,545 Speaker 1: always get compliments every time I use this product is 214 00:10:02,585 --> 00:10:05,185 Speaker 1: the medi pel wrapping collagen mask. 215 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:07,865 Speaker 3: Tell me about this. When you look it up, it 216 00:10:07,985 --> 00:10:09,625 Speaker 3: looks like people are per own skin. 217 00:10:09,785 --> 00:10:12,025 Speaker 4: Yes, it is crazy, looks like a horror movie. 218 00:10:12,065 --> 00:10:13,745 Speaker 2: What is it? 219 00:10:13,785 --> 00:10:13,865 Speaker 3: So? 220 00:10:14,145 --> 00:10:14,745 Speaker 4: Pretty much? 221 00:10:14,865 --> 00:10:18,225 Speaker 1: It is a collagen mask and it's got amino acids. 222 00:10:18,225 --> 00:10:20,145 Speaker 4: It's got collagen, and you. 223 00:10:20,145 --> 00:10:22,465 Speaker 1: Apply a thin layer to yours clean skin, and you 224 00:10:22,585 --> 00:10:24,505 Speaker 1: leave it on for like ten to fifteen minutes, and 225 00:10:24,545 --> 00:10:26,425 Speaker 1: you just peel it off very gently. 226 00:10:26,505 --> 00:10:29,065 Speaker 2: It's very Patrick Bateman, Yes, fill. 227 00:10:28,945 --> 00:10:32,105 Speaker 4: My behavior can be erratic. 228 00:10:32,265 --> 00:10:34,865 Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't rip out your eyebrows, it doesn't rip 229 00:10:34,905 --> 00:10:37,785 Speaker 1: out your hair. It's very gentle. But as soon as 230 00:10:37,785 --> 00:10:40,225 Speaker 1: you rip it off, like you just look so much 231 00:10:40,345 --> 00:10:41,705 Speaker 1: tighter and brighter. 232 00:10:42,025 --> 00:10:44,225 Speaker 2: Is it like a creamy like a gel? 233 00:10:44,265 --> 00:10:46,585 Speaker 4: Formula applies like a cream. 234 00:10:46,425 --> 00:10:47,345 Speaker 2: And does it feel tight? 235 00:10:47,425 --> 00:10:50,505 Speaker 1: Then it feels tight and it leaves like a translucent film. 236 00:10:50,745 --> 00:10:52,905 Speaker 1: I think I will use this when I have something on. 237 00:10:53,265 --> 00:10:54,945 Speaker 1: It's like one of those products where you're like, you 238 00:10:54,985 --> 00:10:57,225 Speaker 1: know what tomorrow, I've got like an event. I want 239 00:10:57,225 --> 00:10:59,345 Speaker 1: to look glowy and I want to look dewy. 240 00:10:59,545 --> 00:11:01,865 Speaker 3: Okay, it sounds like a great product to use, yeah, 241 00:11:01,905 --> 00:11:02,705 Speaker 3: before makeup. 242 00:11:03,025 --> 00:11:04,945 Speaker 2: So have you got any other pills that you like 243 00:11:05,025 --> 00:11:05,345 Speaker 2: to use? 244 00:11:05,705 --> 00:11:08,585 Speaker 4: Yes? I love the Doctor Dennis Gross pills. 245 00:11:09,145 --> 00:11:11,745 Speaker 2: They're not like a new product that's a crowd favorite. 246 00:11:11,825 --> 00:11:14,705 Speaker 1: It is I've used a lot of pills in my life, 247 00:11:14,825 --> 00:11:16,305 Speaker 1: and I feel like this is the goat. 248 00:11:16,585 --> 00:11:18,545 Speaker 3: Tell me, though, you've got kind of sensitive skin. Do 249 00:11:18,585 --> 00:11:19,945 Speaker 3: you find that it's too spicy? 250 00:11:20,385 --> 00:11:23,265 Speaker 1: I started off with the sensitive formula first, and then 251 00:11:23,385 --> 00:11:26,265 Speaker 1: I kind of trained my skin in a way. Yeah, 252 00:11:26,345 --> 00:11:28,905 Speaker 1: work my way up. So I would recommend anyone who 253 00:11:28,985 --> 00:11:31,705 Speaker 1: is looking to try this product to start with the 254 00:11:31,705 --> 00:11:34,945 Speaker 1: sensitive formula first and try it like once a week 255 00:11:35,065 --> 00:11:37,985 Speaker 1: or even every other week to kind of get your 256 00:11:38,025 --> 00:11:40,265 Speaker 1: skin used to such strong actives. 257 00:11:40,465 --> 00:11:42,465 Speaker 2: Remind me what kind of actives are in that one. 258 00:11:42,665 --> 00:11:43,545 Speaker 4: It's a hefty list. 259 00:11:43,585 --> 00:11:47,705 Speaker 1: It's got medelic acid, AHS, and glycolic acid. 260 00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:51,465 Speaker 3: All of the spiciest guys. No wonder my face always 261 00:11:51,505 --> 00:11:53,425 Speaker 3: feels like it's burning off. Yeah, so start with the 262 00:11:53,465 --> 00:11:56,225 Speaker 3: sensitive one, work your way up. What kind of results 263 00:11:56,265 --> 00:11:57,225 Speaker 3: do you see from that one? 264 00:11:57,625 --> 00:12:00,505 Speaker 1: Your skin is glowing the next day. It's a really 265 00:12:00,505 --> 00:12:02,825 Speaker 1: good product if you want to improve your skin texture 266 00:12:02,945 --> 00:12:04,425 Speaker 1: and just brighten your skin overall. 267 00:12:04,465 --> 00:12:07,145 Speaker 3: We love that, We love it, We love it. Tell 268 00:12:07,145 --> 00:12:09,945 Speaker 3: me what else have you got in your routine? Did 269 00:12:10,025 --> 00:12:13,225 Speaker 3: mention that you use retinal? What's your favorite retinal? 270 00:12:13,665 --> 00:12:17,905 Speaker 1: I use the Drunk Elephant, a passione retinal cream. What 271 00:12:17,985 --> 00:12:20,625 Speaker 1: a mouthful, I know, I had. 272 00:12:20,505 --> 00:12:21,545 Speaker 4: To remember what it was. 273 00:12:21,745 --> 00:12:24,065 Speaker 3: I've heard good things. I've never used that one. Why 274 00:12:24,065 --> 00:12:25,825 Speaker 3: do you like that over other retinols? 275 00:12:25,985 --> 00:12:28,745 Speaker 1: I love this one because it's quite active and it's 276 00:12:28,865 --> 00:12:33,305 Speaker 1: very strong. It leaves a tingly feeling almost when you. 277 00:12:33,225 --> 00:12:33,825 Speaker 4: First apply it. 278 00:12:33,905 --> 00:12:36,545 Speaker 1: Again, it's a product that I would recommend if you 279 00:12:36,625 --> 00:12:39,705 Speaker 1: do have sensitive skin, to work your way up, to 280 00:12:39,865 --> 00:12:42,945 Speaker 1: use a really small amount and just focus on the 281 00:12:42,985 --> 00:12:46,105 Speaker 1: areas like your forehead and your cheeks, and then again 282 00:12:46,225 --> 00:12:50,065 Speaker 1: slowly work up the dosage because it is quite strong. 283 00:12:50,425 --> 00:12:52,945 Speaker 3: Do you like to use the sandwich method or anything 284 00:12:53,025 --> 00:12:56,065 Speaker 3: like that if it's too spicy for your skin, If it's. 285 00:12:55,945 --> 00:12:57,145 Speaker 4: Too spicy for my skin. 286 00:12:57,345 --> 00:13:01,465 Speaker 1: I would finish up with a really thick moisturizer, so 287 00:13:01,505 --> 00:13:04,265 Speaker 1: the core As one is perfect, and then I'll finish 288 00:13:04,385 --> 00:13:07,425 Speaker 1: off with an oil from Sunday Riley. So the Juno 289 00:13:07,545 --> 00:13:11,345 Speaker 1: one is perfect. It's super calming, super nourishing, and it's 290 00:13:11,425 --> 00:13:13,265 Speaker 1: again great if you have sensitive skin. 291 00:13:13,465 --> 00:13:16,105 Speaker 2: That is a beautiful oil. I've tried that before and 292 00:13:16,145 --> 00:13:16,625 Speaker 2: I love it. 293 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:28,785 Speaker 3: Tell me, have you got any other masking or anything 294 00:13:28,825 --> 00:13:30,225 Speaker 3: that you like to do during the week. 295 00:13:30,745 --> 00:13:35,545 Speaker 1: Another mask that I love is the Abe Probiotic Overnight Mask. 296 00:13:36,105 --> 00:13:37,265 Speaker 2: Yes, tell me about this. 297 00:13:37,465 --> 00:13:40,905 Speaker 1: So again another product that I found in Korea. So 298 00:13:41,025 --> 00:13:44,865 Speaker 1: the formula is like jelly. It's a clear jelly. When 299 00:13:44,905 --> 00:13:47,825 Speaker 1: you apply it, it feels really cold on your face, but 300 00:13:47,945 --> 00:13:52,945 Speaker 1: it absorbs so beautifully. It's got probotics and rice bread extracts. 301 00:13:52,945 --> 00:13:56,385 Speaker 1: So again I'm all about a healthy microbiome. So it's 302 00:13:56,425 --> 00:13:58,705 Speaker 1: great for those if you do have an impacted barrier. 303 00:13:58,745 --> 00:14:01,625 Speaker 1: And what it does it absorbs beautifully and the next 304 00:14:01,705 --> 00:14:03,625 Speaker 1: day your skin is so refreshed. 305 00:14:03,665 --> 00:14:05,865 Speaker 3: So is this a sleeping mask. It's a sleeping mask, okay, 306 00:14:05,865 --> 00:14:07,465 Speaker 3: So does it dry down quite well? 307 00:14:07,545 --> 00:14:11,025 Speaker 2: Yes? So nothing worse sleeping mask on your hand. Oh hello, 308 00:14:11,105 --> 00:14:11,745 Speaker 2: it's on my pillow. 309 00:14:11,785 --> 00:14:13,705 Speaker 4: Now it does dry down very fast. 310 00:14:13,945 --> 00:14:16,665 Speaker 1: I would say, give it like a couple seconds and 311 00:14:16,985 --> 00:14:19,785 Speaker 1: it will just absorb so beautifully, and your skin again 312 00:14:19,825 --> 00:14:23,145 Speaker 1: looks really bright and tight. The next morning it looks 313 00:14:23,185 --> 00:14:25,985 Speaker 1: like I've slept for like twelve hours, but I didn't really. 314 00:14:26,145 --> 00:14:28,505 Speaker 3: Oh we all need it. Have you got anything else? 315 00:14:28,745 --> 00:14:31,825 Speaker 4: So I love the Alia facial Spirits. So it's a 316 00:14:31,905 --> 00:14:32,465 Speaker 4: new product. 317 00:14:32,505 --> 00:14:33,825 Speaker 2: So that's an Aussie brand. 318 00:14:34,065 --> 00:14:36,145 Speaker 1: It's an Aussie brand. I'm not being biased because I 319 00:14:36,145 --> 00:14:39,185 Speaker 1: actually helped create this product. So with me, it was 320 00:14:39,225 --> 00:14:42,145 Speaker 1: so hard to find a good facial sprints. I was like, 321 00:14:42,785 --> 00:14:45,945 Speaker 1: I cannot find one that is good before my serums, 322 00:14:46,705 --> 00:14:49,785 Speaker 1: good throughout the day, one after makeup that gives me 323 00:14:49,905 --> 00:14:52,225 Speaker 1: very dewy skin. So I was like to the team, let's. 324 00:14:51,945 --> 00:14:52,625 Speaker 4: Just make one. 325 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,385 Speaker 3: I love how you're able to be that person who's like, 326 00:14:55,745 --> 00:14:56,425 Speaker 3: let's just make one. 327 00:14:56,465 --> 00:14:58,825 Speaker 1: Let's just make one. And with this product, it was 328 00:14:58,865 --> 00:15:01,625 Speaker 1: inspired by skin flooding. So skin flooding is all about 329 00:15:02,345 --> 00:15:06,225 Speaker 1: applying a facial sprits and then applying your serums after 330 00:15:06,385 --> 00:15:10,145 Speaker 1: to allow for absorption and better penetration for your serums. 331 00:15:10,625 --> 00:15:12,985 Speaker 1: And I love this product because again it was also 332 00:15:13,065 --> 00:15:16,585 Speaker 1: inspired when I was in Korea. So in Korea they 333 00:15:16,705 --> 00:15:20,065 Speaker 1: use Centella Astka in a lot of their products, So 334 00:15:20,185 --> 00:15:23,665 Speaker 1: it's a great ingredient. If you've got irritated and red skin, 335 00:15:23,985 --> 00:15:27,905 Speaker 1: you'll notice this ingredient in a lot of skincare products 336 00:15:27,905 --> 00:15:30,825 Speaker 1: in Korea. It's also got prebody, so it's pretty much 337 00:15:30,905 --> 00:15:33,225 Speaker 1: like a smoothie for your skin, is what I like 338 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:36,665 Speaker 1: to call it. I use it before my serums, so 339 00:15:36,745 --> 00:15:39,785 Speaker 1: before I apply my morning serums and at night as well, 340 00:15:40,425 --> 00:15:42,465 Speaker 1: and I would use it after makeup if I want 341 00:15:42,505 --> 00:15:44,825 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a glow, and I actually. 342 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:46,865 Speaker 4: Carry it in my bag. I have it here right now, 343 00:15:46,905 --> 00:15:47,425 Speaker 4: and I love it. 344 00:15:47,465 --> 00:15:50,705 Speaker 2: I have it on my person. I can prove it. Yeah. 345 00:15:50,745 --> 00:15:54,225 Speaker 2: It's like show and tell hit, you've made one of 346 00:15:54,225 --> 00:15:56,025 Speaker 2: the greatest discoveries. 347 00:15:55,465 --> 00:16:00,145 Speaker 1: Of all time or miss never again never. 348 00:16:00,785 --> 00:16:03,745 Speaker 3: I want you to tell me a skincare ingredient or 349 00:16:04,065 --> 00:16:05,825 Speaker 3: technique that you can't live without. 350 00:16:06,185 --> 00:16:07,585 Speaker 4: Yeah, and one you. 351 00:16:07,505 --> 00:16:13,585 Speaker 1: Don't like, yes, Okay, So my hit would be skin cycling, 352 00:16:13,705 --> 00:16:17,065 Speaker 1: which I had mentioned. It's just such a game changer. 353 00:16:17,145 --> 00:16:20,185 Speaker 1: It just allows you to strip back and just focus 354 00:16:20,225 --> 00:16:23,505 Speaker 1: on what you need and tailor it to your skin type, 355 00:16:23,505 --> 00:16:25,985 Speaker 1: which I love. I'm all about the glow and I'm 356 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:29,065 Speaker 1: all about Dewey's skin and skin cycling has just changed 357 00:16:29,065 --> 00:16:29,425 Speaker 1: my life. 358 00:16:29,465 --> 00:16:29,785 Speaker 2: Love it. 359 00:16:29,865 --> 00:16:32,265 Speaker 3: Tell me about your missus. Have you got anything that 360 00:16:32,545 --> 00:16:34,145 Speaker 3: you just do not careful? 361 00:16:34,345 --> 00:16:34,625 Speaker 4: Yes. 362 00:16:34,905 --> 00:16:37,345 Speaker 1: So one thing that has been popping up all over 363 00:16:37,385 --> 00:16:40,705 Speaker 1: TikTok is the uker app. So it's pretty much an 364 00:16:40,705 --> 00:16:43,545 Speaker 1: app where you can scan beauty products and they give 365 00:16:43,585 --> 00:16:45,425 Speaker 1: it a rating of good or bad. 366 00:16:46,145 --> 00:16:47,025 Speaker 2: I've heard of this game. 367 00:16:47,185 --> 00:16:49,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would scan the ingredients and be like, no, 368 00:16:49,385 --> 00:16:52,065 Speaker 1: this product is terrible, don't use it kind of thing. 369 00:16:52,105 --> 00:16:54,345 Speaker 1: And it's like it creates fear mongering. And for me, 370 00:16:55,025 --> 00:16:58,145 Speaker 1: I work in science, so seeing those apps, I'm like, 371 00:16:58,225 --> 00:17:00,265 Speaker 1: I cannot stand it. And I get a lot of 372 00:17:00,265 --> 00:17:03,545 Speaker 1: people actually being like, I scan this beauty product and 373 00:17:03,585 --> 00:17:06,385 Speaker 1: it's telling me it's bad. But with these apps, like 374 00:17:06,425 --> 00:17:08,865 Speaker 1: you know, science isn't black or white because with these 375 00:17:08,905 --> 00:17:11,465 Speaker 1: apps they actually meant to be used for food and 376 00:17:11,465 --> 00:17:14,465 Speaker 1: food labeling and stuff like that. And these apps don't 377 00:17:14,505 --> 00:17:18,145 Speaker 1: consider the concentration of the ingredient in the formula. It's 378 00:17:18,185 --> 00:17:20,585 Speaker 1: considering like it's in one hundred percent. And you know, 379 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:23,065 Speaker 1: with anything like if I had hyaluronic acid at one 380 00:17:23,145 --> 00:17:26,105 Speaker 1: hundred percent, my skin would burn. With these apps, they 381 00:17:26,105 --> 00:17:29,345 Speaker 1: would pick up ingredients that are like preservatives. So one 382 00:17:29,425 --> 00:17:32,705 Speaker 1: preservative that is used in a lot of skincare ingredients 383 00:17:32,785 --> 00:17:36,345 Speaker 1: is fornoxyethanol. It's such a mouthful, but you need these 384 00:17:36,465 --> 00:17:40,145 Speaker 1: ingredients in your formula because without preservatives you can actually 385 00:17:40,185 --> 00:17:43,865 Speaker 1: grow bacteria and if anything that is more damaging to 386 00:17:43,945 --> 00:17:44,345 Speaker 1: your skin. 387 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:46,305 Speaker 2: That is such an interesting mess. 388 00:17:46,465 --> 00:17:46,865 Speaker 4: It's true. 389 00:17:46,945 --> 00:17:49,825 Speaker 3: And preservatives and products, Yeah, as you said, they need it. 390 00:17:50,145 --> 00:17:52,905 Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't have preservatives, your product 391 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:55,585 Speaker 1: will last a month. If anything, two weeks, it will 392 00:17:55,625 --> 00:17:58,385 Speaker 1: start to smell. There will be mold, and we don't 393 00:17:58,385 --> 00:17:59,305 Speaker 1: want mold on our face. 394 00:17:59,385 --> 00:18:00,945 Speaker 2: We don't want mold on our face. We don't. 395 00:18:01,065 --> 00:18:04,225 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a great one. I'm gonna stay off that app. 396 00:18:05,025 --> 00:18:07,305 Speaker 3: Haven't got it, and I'm not gonna get it. Look, 397 00:18:07,385 --> 00:18:09,745 Speaker 3: thanks so much Into for joining me today and giving 398 00:18:09,825 --> 00:18:13,425 Speaker 3: us a nosy peak behind the beauty developer curtain. It 399 00:18:13,585 --> 00:18:16,065 Speaker 3: was so incredibly fascinating. 400 00:18:16,225 --> 00:18:17,065 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 401 00:18:17,305 --> 00:18:19,945 Speaker 3: And if you want more beauty news and our favorite 402 00:18:19,945 --> 00:18:22,625 Speaker 3: products all listed in one place, you can sign up 403 00:18:22,625 --> 00:18:25,225 Speaker 3: to our free newsletter via the link in our show notes. 404 00:18:25,545 --> 00:18:28,065 Speaker 3: Tune in tomorrow for Beauty Besties, where Lucy and Key 405 00:18:28,145 --> 00:18:31,705 Speaker 3: answer all your burning beauty questions. See you next Tuesday 406 00:18:31,745 --> 00:18:33,945 Speaker 3: for another interview talking all things skin care. 407 00:18:34,265 --> 00:18:36,745 Speaker 2: Bye.