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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee

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Speaker 2: helps us work out how to get more out of

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Speaker 2: Tamara Holland back again. As promised, Tam will be joining

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Speaker 2: me pretty regularly to chat trends, ideas and inspo. It's

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Speaker 2: basically an insight into our WhatsApp fashion chat. And if

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Speaker 2: you missed the last episode with Tam, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: pop a link in the show notes because on that

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Speaker 2: show we discussed the massive amount of sheer clothing everywhere

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Speaker 2: Plus we both weighed in on jawts or bermuda shorts,

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Speaker 2: new batch of trends and observations to discuss, so let's

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Speaker 2: stump straight into it. Tam, my fashion friend, Firstly, welcome back,

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Speaker 2: and secondly, I could not be more excited to talk

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Speaker 2: about these trends with you. You've brought two excellent trends

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Speaker 2: What are you going to start with?

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Speaker 1: Lee?

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Speaker 3: Fashion is going absolutely mad, going bananas if you will,

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Speaker 3: Vton Men'swear show, there were lobster clutches with the LV

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Speaker 3: to see brands like Oraton perhaps or your mimcos start

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Speaker 3: doesn't does that make sense? Where it because it makes

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Speaker 2: The examples you gave they were all food and fruit vegetables,

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Speaker 3: a line of bag charms that are fruit. They're bananas.

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Speaker 2: I think that's more realistic for the everyday person. But hey,

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Speaker 1: My first trend is the return of plaid.

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Speaker 2: So you know the US really call it plaid, it's

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Speaker 3: Vivian West too all over, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: definitely around. But for me, I think this winter we'll

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Speaker 3: You know, you're so right. I've been seeing this coming

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Speaker 3: Like an oversized blazer in a check of men's where blazer,

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Speaker 1: I love that. Well, that's what trends are right.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what to wear next for We're coming into autumn.

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Speaker 3: It's really close. Actually, we've just got a few weeks

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Speaker 3: left of summer. I was doing my research for this podcast,

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Speaker 3: Mew is Fashion's hottest brand once again according to the

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Speaker 3: List Index. It's a report that comes out every quarter

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Speaker 3: and it reports on the most influential hot brands, high

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Speaker 3: that can come through into this register. So Meumu has

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Speaker 3: been responsible for a massive brown suede revival on the runways.

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Speaker 3: The list Index also interestingly reported that ugg as in

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Speaker 3: ug Boots has made its entry into this hot list,

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Speaker 3: and Hailey Bieba her fashion Twin wore a brown Swede bomber.

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Speaker 1: It's the vibe, It's the vibes.

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Speaker 3: Mate, And I've got some more accessible entry points to

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm excited for that. Now, I just feel like

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Speaker 1: It's very expensive.

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Speaker 2: How old you these, tam You have got me very

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Speaker 2: something or are both your boogie and budget Swede?

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Speaker 2: Let's stay in Swede City and do both of yours.

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Speaker 2: Because I've also cheated. I've got to budgets. So if

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Speaker 3: I've got two bougies.

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Speaker 1: Don't what I was going to say. And it's big.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it online. It's huge. This bag

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Speaker 3: It's an really oversized hobo shape that cocoons around your shoulder.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the silhouettes that were really seeing in

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Speaker 3: one has a magnetic button closure at the top, so

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Speaker 3: all your stuff's not going to spill out on the

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Speaker 3: when you put it down. So I love this option

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Speaker 3: to great brown color. It comes in three color variations,

433
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Speaker 3: or a light brown and a dark brown. I actually

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Speaker 3: love the lighter brown.

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Speaker 1: I love all of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a black, oh, I love them all and yeah,

437
00:20:54,345 --> 00:20:55,545
Speaker 2: more of a traditional tan.

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Speaker 1: And it's the business exactly, how do we water do?

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Speaker 1: We just get that waterproofer from the shoe shop.

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Speaker 3: That's what I've done, the one that I always say

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Speaker 3: no to and then regret later. I'm like, no, I

442
00:21:05,505 --> 00:21:07,905
Speaker 3: don't need thank you don't upsell me. And then I'm like, oh,

443
00:21:07,985 --> 00:21:11,825
Speaker 3: maybe that was a strategic upsell. Yes, I think you

444
00:21:11,905 --> 00:21:14,705
Speaker 3: need to waterproof it. I bought myself a Gucci bag

445
00:21:14,865 --> 00:21:18,105
Speaker 3: a long time ago. One black Swede.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and adventurous. That's wild, such a big risk. And

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Speaker 1: yeah it's filthy.

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Speaker 3: I love her, but she's filthy, So that would have

449
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Speaker 3: been a good decision to make three.

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Speaker 2: You know, these two bags you've brought are that kind

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Speaker 2: of boho hobo slouchy like I think these.

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Speaker 1: Look good worn.

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Speaker 2: If you would get a little spiel, a little scuff,

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00:21:35,145 --> 00:21:37,065
Speaker 2: they still look I mean, they probably look cooler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's so true. Lean into it right, all right?

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Speaker 1: Give me more affordable options, please, any boat.

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Speaker 3: So I had a good dig for this shoe. I

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Speaker 3: really wanted to find a brown Swede shoe option. The

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Speaker 3: one I found is from Charles and Keith, really great

460
00:21:55,145 --> 00:22:01,145
Speaker 3: accessible leather footwear. It's not bargain bin basement prices. But

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Speaker 3: this sandal that I found is it's called the Cory

462
00:22:04,225 --> 00:22:07,505
Speaker 3: Swede Slide one hundred and forty nine dollars, which I

463
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Speaker 3: think is quite good for Swede that's going to last.

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Speaker 1: Essentially, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Footbed sandal with two thick straps in foot around me.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt you, but I don't know what that

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Speaker 3: means like it looks a bit birkenstocky to me.

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Speaker 1: Does foot bed mean like? Correct? Thick. Okay cool. I

469
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Speaker 1: always thought it meant that your foot had a little bed.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, so it's got some sort of support.

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Speaker 2: It's not that really fine piece of whatever between you

472
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Speaker 2: and the ground.

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Speaker 3: It's thicker, yeah, thicker leather. So when you see a footbed.

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Speaker 3: There's a few brands that do them in Australia. Alias

475
00:22:38,345 --> 00:22:41,705
Speaker 3: May Salsana come to mind. They all have their footbed style,

476
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Speaker 3: so they go. They're a really great chunky shoe option

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Speaker 3: to take you through into autumn. Even though they're a

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00:22:47,945 --> 00:22:51,185
Speaker 3: slide I feel like because they're that Swede, they've got

479
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Speaker 3: that wintry texture. You can team them with jeans and

480
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Speaker 3: knits to.

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Speaker 1: Add that touch of texture. That's me.

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Speaker 2: I've brought two Tartan or plaid options for my budget

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Speaker 2: because until you reminded me that I actually do have

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Speaker 2: a lovely Tartan blazer. I'm thinking I'm going to do

485
00:23:06,025 --> 00:23:08,025
Speaker 2: a touch, but maybe I'll go do get my blazer.

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Speaker 2: So Target have what's called the slim bow Clip in plaid,

487
00:23:12,825 --> 00:23:15,105
Speaker 2: and it is literally a plaid little clip that you

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Speaker 2: put in the website says it's very popular. It comes

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00:23:18,025 --> 00:23:19,705
Speaker 2: in other colors and you can also get it in

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Speaker 2: a leopard print. But I just really like the plane

491
00:23:22,825 --> 00:23:26,025
Speaker 2: bow because again, as you said, it's kind of that

492
00:23:26,145 --> 00:23:30,305
Speaker 2: throwback to high society. It's a bit kind of what

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Speaker 2: I'm imagining in the Scottish countryside.

494
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Speaker 1: And I am at the point with.

495
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Speaker 2: Growing my hair, even though this is not a beauty podcast,

496
00:23:36,225 --> 00:23:37,505
Speaker 2: where I sometimes just need to do a bit of

497
00:23:37,545 --> 00:23:39,105
Speaker 2: a half up, half down or put it back. But

498
00:23:39,185 --> 00:23:41,785
Speaker 2: I look like I'm in my leisure where and I've

499
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Speaker 2: just come from the gym, but sometimes I'm coming to

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Speaker 2: the office. Just this little bow is so cute and

501
00:23:45,785 --> 00:23:48,345
Speaker 2: it's six dollars, so k yeah, and you know what,

502
00:23:48,625 --> 00:23:49,945
Speaker 2: make it into a bag chime if you don't want

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00:23:49,945 --> 00:23:52,825
Speaker 2: to wear it in your hair. Love And the other

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Speaker 2: one is from Marks and Spencer. So the joy of

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Speaker 2: shopping right now online is that the Northern Hemisphere on

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Speaker 2: sale for all their autumn winter.

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Speaker 1: That were about to go into. It's a good hack.

508
00:24:01,945 --> 00:24:04,305
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a good hack for your ordrobe and not

509
00:24:04,345 --> 00:24:07,265
Speaker 2: for your bank balance. So the Marks and Spencer M

510
00:24:07,265 --> 00:24:10,385
Speaker 2: and S collection checked scarf it is thirty ninety nine.

511
00:24:10,705 --> 00:24:12,545
Speaker 2: I think a scarf is also a really good way

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Speaker 2: sometimes to dip your toe into a trend. It's just

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00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:18,225
Speaker 2: a big, chunky, checked scarf. It looks like one of

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00:24:18,265 --> 00:24:20,945
Speaker 2: those throws you might put on your couch. It's not

515
00:24:21,065 --> 00:24:22,985
Speaker 2: quite that big, you know. It's not the Leny Kravitz

516
00:24:22,985 --> 00:24:25,385
Speaker 2: wearing that blanket he did that time. But it's just

517
00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,305
Speaker 2: beautiful and warm, and if you live in tazzy or

518
00:24:27,305 --> 00:24:29,585
Speaker 2: someone that gets really cold, or you travel, it kind

519
00:24:29,625 --> 00:24:34,025
Speaker 2: of just adds that immediate sheakness to everything else.

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00:24:34,145 --> 00:24:36,505
Speaker 3: This is very much inspired by a scuff that Acne

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Speaker 3: Studios did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am spending that on a scarf.

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00:24:40,265 --> 00:24:42,225
Speaker 3: No, there are four or five hundred dollars, so this

524
00:24:42,305 --> 00:24:43,465
Speaker 3: is a more accessible way.

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Speaker 1: I love this scuff.

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00:24:45,345 --> 00:24:48,145
Speaker 2: I love scarves, but I forget to wear them me too.

527
00:24:48,185 --> 00:24:50,585
Speaker 2: I think we need to, like somehow keep scarves in

528
00:24:50,585 --> 00:24:54,425
Speaker 2: our car anyway. My bougie is one of those aforementioned

529
00:24:54,865 --> 00:24:58,585
Speaker 2: chic trenches that are waterproof. It is from Lululemon, but

530
00:24:58,625 --> 00:25:01,345
Speaker 2: it's an online exclusive, so you can't get it in stores.

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00:25:01,345 --> 00:25:03,625
Speaker 2: It's called the Always Their trench Coat, and I like

532
00:25:03,625 --> 00:25:06,065
Speaker 2: the color bone. I really like lighter colors. It comes

533
00:25:06,065 --> 00:25:08,465
Speaker 2: in a black, but I feel like a bit inspector

534
00:25:08,505 --> 00:25:12,705
Speaker 2: gadget if I were a big black trench. It comes

535
00:25:12,785 --> 00:25:14,505
Speaker 2: in a bone and it's got that really kind of

536
00:25:14,585 --> 00:25:20,305
Speaker 2: cool lapel. That's the double thing. The arm risty belt,

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Speaker 2: I can never remember that's called.

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Speaker 1: It's not a cuff, it's just something. I don't think

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00:25:23,105 --> 00:25:25,585
Speaker 1: it's an arm risty belt. No, they don't call it that.

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00:25:25,665 --> 00:25:29,745
Speaker 2: Weirdly has some kind of very subtle Lululemon branding, but

541
00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:30,465
Speaker 2: you could remove that.

542
00:25:30,545 --> 00:25:32,225
Speaker 1: I think it's just cool.

543
00:25:32,505 --> 00:25:36,065
Speaker 2: And the model is five ten and it comes past hernees,

544
00:25:36,105 --> 00:25:37,945
Speaker 2: so on me it would be almost full length.

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00:25:38,305 --> 00:25:38,905
Speaker 1: I do like that.

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00:25:38,985 --> 00:25:41,825
Speaker 2: Lululemon does quite a lot of different lengths for their

547
00:25:41,865 --> 00:25:44,305
Speaker 2: items because they've got such a broad audience. It's just

548
00:25:44,505 --> 00:25:47,665
Speaker 2: very cool, lightweight, trans seasonal. Imagine that for travel. If

549
00:25:47,665 --> 00:25:51,105
Speaker 2: you're going somewhere the weather it's unpredictable, it's very easy

550
00:25:51,145 --> 00:25:53,625
Speaker 2: to pack and lightweight, great for the plane, great for everything.

551
00:25:53,665 --> 00:25:56,145
Speaker 2: I think I'm convincing myself, but it is three hundred

552
00:25:56,185 --> 00:25:58,785
Speaker 2: and twenty nine dollars, So I think with a trench

553
00:25:58,905 --> 00:26:00,745
Speaker 2: like that, you can get a fashion trench and then

554
00:26:00,745 --> 00:26:02,545
Speaker 2: you can get a functional trench. But I think the

555
00:26:02,585 --> 00:26:06,745
Speaker 2: fusion of both is amazing, and I wish I didn't

556
00:26:06,745 --> 00:26:08,265
Speaker 2: have so many trenches. I'm gonna have to sell a

557
00:26:08,265 --> 00:26:10,625
Speaker 2: few so I can invent something that's functioning.

558
00:26:10,865 --> 00:26:12,985
Speaker 1: Well, you've sold me, maybe I'll buy it, Okay, then

559
00:26:12,985 --> 00:26:14,225
Speaker 1: we can share. I might get the black.

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00:26:14,345 --> 00:26:17,065
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't strike me as a detective, but I

561
00:26:17,105 --> 00:26:18,705
Speaker 2: somehow I think it's the dark hair and the love

562
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:20,705
Speaker 2: of big sunglasses. When I put it all together, I

563
00:26:20,705 --> 00:26:22,905
Speaker 2: look like I'm sneaking around to take pup shots.

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Speaker 1: Tam.

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Speaker 2: As always, I learned so much from you. I have

566
00:26:26,145 --> 00:26:28,385
Speaker 2: the best time chatting to you. So we'll speak to

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00:26:28,425 --> 00:26:30,865
Speaker 2: you in another month or so with some more fashion news.

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Speaker 3: That'd be great because it's a bit of a liability

569
00:26:32,825 --> 00:26:35,145
Speaker 3: for my wallet, so any more than that, it's going

570
00:26:35,185 --> 00:26:36,985
Speaker 3: to start and I actually get a card debt.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. I hope

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Speaker 2: you enjoy that episode. And if you're not already subscribed

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Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production

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