WEBVTT - The Conversation You Didn't See Coming

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<v Speaker 1>We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you not argue with me when you haven't watched

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<v Speaker 2>the show and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so annoying somehow. I was like my hairdresser told

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<v Speaker 1>me that that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, and welcome back to eat, Sleep, shit Repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in your ap edition. I'm Key Resells. I'm Kelly McCarron.

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<v Speaker 2>And while Key gallaghavants overseas, I'll just mope around in Sydneys.

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<v Speaker 2>That don't mind me gallivant, sweetie. Oh, I like to

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<v Speaker 2>say gallagavan.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on. You knew exactly what I meant. Therefore it

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<v Speaker 1>is a okay word to you. You are that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like I'm too old to care about making typos

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<v Speaker 1>and messages. Deal with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been making a lot of typos in my

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<v Speaker 2>messages early, so it's going on with my phone and

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't care. I am an elderly gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>You are. I'm no longer a middle aged white man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now an.

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<v Speaker 2>Elderly Watch out, she's a boomer. I'm gonna stuck getting

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<v Speaker 2>real ranky. This is the first episode in our Unhinged

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<v Speaker 2>Keys on Holiday series is so welcome. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what this episode's actually called yet, I've simply called

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<v Speaker 2>it conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a long form interview, like you tell me more?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we the ABC all of a sudden, Isn't that what?

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<v Speaker 1>That's very unbrand.

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<v Speaker 2>For me because I've been collecting great questions that I've

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<v Speaker 2>just thought of or seen on the Internet as really

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<v Speaker 2>good conversation starters, and I thought we would briefly touch

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<v Speaker 2>on them today next minute. It's like three hours long,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want you to join in on the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>in our Facebook group or on Instagram. Well, of that

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<v Speaker 2>tell me about someone who had a significant influence on

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<v Speaker 2>you in your life, but they wouldn't know or realize

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<v Speaker 2>that or even maybe remember you.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think about this quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Realcause, well, yeah, I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that were like really integral to who I've ended

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<v Speaker 3>up being from like my really formative youe in primary.

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<v Speaker 1>School in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that like I don't really have any contact now,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends that I made in that primary school and their parents.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like I went to this inner City Primary

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<v Speaker 3>school and it was very artsy. Like from a young age,

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<v Speaker 3>I was allowed to walk from school to my mum's

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<v Speaker 3>work with another girl because I worked together. I just

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<v Speaker 3>remember this whole time in my life, being really independent

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid, but being exposed to like really different things,

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<v Speaker 3>Like some of the parents are super arty. One was

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<v Speaker 3>like a fashion designer. Like my best friend when I

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<v Speaker 3>was little Mark, he was gay and he was also

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<v Speaker 3>a Jehovah's Witness.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I just hate to Jovah's Witness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't a good mix, but like

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<v Speaker 3>that timing was really quite pivotal in I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess my exposure to like different people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would say that my best friend growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>her name was Ivy, and her.

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<v Speaker 1>Mum Billy was just so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So her mum Billy worked at the school, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was obviously always an after schoolcare and her mum ran

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<v Speaker 3>the after school care, but I always stayed at the house,

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<v Speaker 3>and like, I don't know, she was just so cool,

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<v Speaker 3>like because she was a fashion designer. She'd let us

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<v Speaker 3>like cut the Barbie doll's hair and like do the clothing.

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<v Speaker 3>She also like let us watch the coolest movie so

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I have Like cry Baby was like

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite movies growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not just antisocial Jedi.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born to be bad, not having I believe

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<v Speaker 2>with Johnny Depp.

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<v Speaker 3>Grab it's a Johnny Depp film, and it's just like, basically,

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<v Speaker 3>this is back when he was hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I saw like top of him back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and he was hot, very very good looking.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like I was really exposed to a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of cool art, different things than I ever would

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<v Speaker 3>have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was just a.

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<v Speaker 3>Really cool person and really cared a lot about me,

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<v Speaker 3>and even she was a single mom to Ivy, like

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<v Speaker 3>she'd always have me over and I always think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I found Ivy on Instagram really weirdly,

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<v Speaker 3>like when I was pregnant, I went back and tried

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<v Speaker 3>to find all the people that I went to primary

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<v Speaker 3>school with. It's so weird, it's so weird, but I

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<v Speaker 3>found them all, and I found Ivy and started following

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<v Speaker 3>her on Instagram. And she was pregnant at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>so she had ended up having a little boy just

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<v Speaker 3>before Ru was born. And I think I said to her, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>your mom was such an important person in my childhood,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think about her really fondly often, And she

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<v Speaker 3>said so many people have come up to her later

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<v Speaker 3>in life that went through like that after schoolcare program

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<v Speaker 3>and said the same thing to her that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's dedicated her life to.

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<v Speaker 3>Kids, like she still works with special needs kids now,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's just like a really cool motherly figure in

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<v Speaker 3>my life. Like I think, on reflection, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the time, I realized that I did have these particularly

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<v Speaker 3>women that really took an interest in me, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think that they could see that you needed that, that

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<v Speaker 3>I need that, and like if I wanted to come

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<v Speaker 3>over or have a sleepover, like I was always just

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<v Speaker 3>their second kid. It wasn't like a big thing to

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<v Speaker 3>have me around. So I think definitely her for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you should reach out to Billy and let

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<v Speaker 2>her know. You could send her an email.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I should, shouldn't I I just couldn't know,

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<v Speaker 3>But think about it, if you were Billy, would you

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<v Speaker 3>not want to know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? So true.

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<v Speaker 3>I do follow her on Insta, Oh Billy is yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And she was like I should, I should, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, you haven't changed. It's still

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<v Speaker 3>the same as you were when you were a little girl,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, there's not many people who've

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<v Speaker 3>known me since I was a little girl, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was like quite comforting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was just really nice. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That was probably for four or five years of my

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<v Speaker 3>life that they were in my life, and to think

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<v Speaker 3>of them so much now at this age fondly, like

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<v Speaker 3>it means it made a big impression on like who

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, thanks so much, but random, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the truth. Okay, tell me about a person that's

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<v Speaker 1>made a really big impact on your life that they

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<v Speaker 1>might not.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny because as you were just talking about that,

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I started thinking about all these different teachers

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<v Speaker 2>that I had that were really impactful. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to stick to the person that first popped into my

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<v Speaker 2>mind when I read that, because he would not remember me,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. Yeah, this guy was the CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>a company I worked for my first year out of UNI.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a weird story, Like you're going to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did this guy positively impact you?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was terrible at my job. Yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 2>just always encouraged me so much with my other things,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they taught me how to do websites, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they bought me my first domain and like set me

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<v Speaker 2>up with a blog so that I could do it

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<v Speaker 2>in my spare time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's encouraged it.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. I sucked so bad at my actual job though,

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<v Speaker 2>that they ended up having to fire me because I

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<v Speaker 2>really wasn't good and I made some quite bad mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking of free on below. Dam Bri. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Your lack of experience shows in you not being aware

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<v Speaker 1>how a both works.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had to fire me. And in this firing

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, why is this impacting you in a good way?

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<v Speaker 1>Being fired? Marcelo said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, they wrote it off as a redundancy, so they

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<v Speaker 2>a gave me a redundancy payout I didn't deserve or

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't need to give me. I'd been their lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>A year out of will that they literally, out of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness of their heart, they gave me a redundancy package

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<v Speaker 2>and they passed off as a redundancy so I'd find

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<v Speaker 2>it easier to get another job rather than having to

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<v Speaker 2>say I'd been fired. And he sat me down, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, I want to help you. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was too stubborn and young and upset and embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 2>take him up on it. But he was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>are so passionate that when you figure out what you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, you're going to be so good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I know you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be successful with what you decide that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do. It's not this, yeah, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know that, like, you're just so passionate

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<v Speaker 2>that you just need to figure it out. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just really stayed with me because he was so right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I it wasn't the first job that I had

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<v Speaker 2>that I wasn't very good at, but I just think

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<v Speaker 2>that having people like that, and also as a manager,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to think about the person. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to say, it's just that made an

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<v Speaker 2>impact on me. And he wouldn't even remember me because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't work there for long.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, because it's probably the first time that

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<v Speaker 3>someone ever said to you you're capable, but you're shit

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<v Speaker 3>at this at this, but when you find what you're

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<v Speaker 3>really good at, you're going to be And it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just really good advice. As well, that just because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not good at this doesn't mean you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be good at something else. And having belief in someone

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<v Speaker 2>that much as well, someone that's not good at what

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<v Speaker 2>you hired them to do, Well, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying like we're fine ring you and then actually taking

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<v Speaker 3>the time to give you some feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>Just cost some money. They were like, when you come

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<v Speaker 2>back next week to like pick up your shit, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to like sit down with you. Who are our contacts,

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<v Speaker 2>who can we help you meet? Set up coffees with.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they wanted to do for me. They were

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<v Speaker 2>the best people my solo on Malcolm Great, great chaps, Eminem, Yeah, Eminem, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>They're definitely not shitters as they are middle aged white men.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it was from them I got my confidence

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<v Speaker 2>of a middle aged white man.

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<v Speaker 1>So true.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm up, and I'm just gonna get this

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<v Speaker 3>question out of the way. I feel like I need

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<v Speaker 3>some control over it, because when you sent this roll,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have just said that you didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>answer it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think I think it's good to answer. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I can work through something here. And figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think people would say about you behind

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<v Speaker 1>your back?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My god, yeah, you're like, oh blah blah like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't kill it me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like rocking back and what would they say?

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<v Speaker 2>I love this question. They actually ask this question on

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<v Speaker 2>The Imperfect. Oh. I love that podcast, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>made me want to put it in here. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I love this question so much. I think that people

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<v Speaker 2>would say she's wildly unhinged.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you say that anyway, Yeah, I do tell

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<v Speaker 1>me something.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so funny because we were talking with some

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<v Speaker 2>of my girlfriends. We found out, like this other girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>she loves to have a bitch every now and then

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<v Speaker 2>she bitches about everyone. And we were just laughing because

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, oh, what's worse to say about us?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, I know what everyone would say

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<v Speaker 2>about me. And then my girlfriend Belle was like that

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<v Speaker 2>you're a cranky bitch, and I'm like, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm so moody.

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<v Speaker 2>So people just bitch about how moody I am. I

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<v Speaker 2>know how annoying it is. But it's also funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so aware of it, and I know that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>around me is so aware. So I know that if

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<v Speaker 2>I go on a girl's weekend, some of the girls

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<v Speaker 2>will bitch about me for being a moody bitch. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I deserve to be bitched about for being a moody bitch. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People would say that I'm very obnoxious and annoying, which

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I don't know if you hadn't, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know me, I'm obnoxious.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're loud. I'm not saying that this is true.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I am. I am very cranky. I can sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit ob nonxious and annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone can. Ye, Yeah, I'll give it to you. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give it to you, and that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty much afect otherwise, doesne I do things?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Actually, I do think some people probably think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>stupid and might say that I'm stupid. Oh okay, But

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<v Speaker 2>once again, I just think that's funny. Yeah, because you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know that I'm not, and I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit arrogant. I actually I am very arrogant.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think people would say that about me

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't. Is it arrogant or is it confidence

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<v Speaker 2>not arrogant? With like my intelligence, I think I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit arrogant. It's only in my favor totally,

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<v Speaker 2>because I will walk into a situation and know that

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<v Speaker 2>people are probably like, oh, this chick is blonde with

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<v Speaker 2>a big fake titties. Oh, but I think, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that I'm smarter than a lot of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. It's arrogance, that's arrogance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's confidence slash arrogance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you tell me what you think people would say

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<v Speaker 1>about you. Maybe I'll think of some more things.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut at the moment, I'm like, I can't imagine people

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<v Speaker 2>would have that much bad things to say about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the specific day that I realized that people

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<v Speaker 1>would be bitching about.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, Like I know, I know, like obviously it gets

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<v Speaker 2>bitched about all the time, obviously, but all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had never considered it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like with a friend and we're having

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about someone, and then I just went

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<v Speaker 3>in my head people about me?

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<v Speaker 1>What would they say? And I was just like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>never think about that again. Put that out of the head.

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<v Speaker 2>So were so funny when the question kept was like

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, what's going You're like, now I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, and now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to think about it. I think people would

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<v Speaker 1>say that I'm like hot and cold.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people would say that you overthink everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's no do I overthink everything?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think hot and cold is one because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, isn't that the same as moody or a

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<v Speaker 3>slow burn?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely, Like I see, definitely, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>people say by I'll tell you what I said behind

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<v Speaker 2>your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just like I don't open up easily to people.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to put them through a few hurdles.

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<v Speaker 3>Not necessarily me making them do things like but watching

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<v Speaker 3>them feeling like I can trust them or let them

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<v Speaker 3>into like my inner circle or yeah, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. So I think slow burn may be

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<v Speaker 3>a bit hot and cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely bitching though that's just a personality trait, okay, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just that's also just like common, Like I say

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<v Speaker 2>all the time when someone's like, oh my god, he

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<v Speaker 2>was so funny on that episode, I'm like, fuck people,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not a regular listener or you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>key that, well, you don't know how funny she is,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be friends with I wouldn't work with her

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<v Speaker 2>if she wasn't hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, I think people would say that I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit negative, so negative every time I leave Lucy Friend

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<v Speaker 3>of the Pods after we've done a record, I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>be like, I'm gonna do better next time.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise not to be so negative. I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>a negative Nancy. I am a little bit n negg.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the nag train too.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really care? Though, I'd be like, well, it's truth,

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<v Speaker 2>and also, you know what, Lucy will give you seven

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<v Speaker 2>years to your our age and then maybe you'll join

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<v Speaker 2>us in our has a mystic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a real deep dark sadness.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people would say that maybe they might feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a friendship is one sided or I don't make

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<v Speaker 3>an effort, And it's not because I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because I when things are hard in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to be very internal, kind of like close,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that's one thing I'm always really conscious of

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<v Speaker 3>as like, oh fuck, Like they probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Just actually get you're so shit at keeping like on

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<v Speaker 2>top of your comms and stuff. Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be validating you, whether positive or negative.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be neutral. You are shit. Actually, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you give me. You are arrogant. You are shit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that's what people would think, or I

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<v Speaker 3>would worry that they would say, oh, she thinks her

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<v Speaker 3>time's more important. Oh, she never gets back to me,

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<v Speaker 3>when really it's like, oh, I'm just so overwhelmed by

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<v Speaker 3>life in general that for me, I just have to

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<v Speaker 3>be like I need to focus on getting up.

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<v Speaker 1>And moving in the morning. I can't think about anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have capacity for anything else, yeah, like mental capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do feel bad because then like every two months,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like on the blow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she's back, she's alive. Yeah, a little miss mooie.

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<v Speaker 2>What legacy or impact would you like to leave behind

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. How would you like to be remembered

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<v Speaker 2>by others?

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<v Speaker 1>I think just showing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can overcome things and that you really are

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the master of your own destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think, fuck you, you're so mean to me

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, the master of your own destiny. Or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, and I'll say it in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>To go get some crystals and will place them on you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just mean that like I was not given anything

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<v Speaker 3>on a platter. No, you know, like everything that's happened

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<v Speaker 3>is because I made it happen. And it's something that

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<v Speaker 3>someone pointed out to me recently, like you've made all

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<v Speaker 3>these things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh, yeah, you should be so proud. You did

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<v Speaker 2>not have anyone legging you up in anything, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even just like in an encouragement capacity, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think that I just through Like how I'd want her

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<v Speaker 3>to remember me was that Mum really did that, Like

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<v Speaker 3>everything that she laid, she did it like she made

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<v Speaker 3>things happen, and like I can do that too, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I think, like with the pod that we do,

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<v Speaker 3>like we talk about all of the things that we

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<v Speaker 3>go through as mums.

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<v Speaker 2>But we get such nice messages when I said this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>both cried about this feedback message this morning, so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a legacy. Is like I gave

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<v Speaker 1>it a crack and.

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<v Speaker 3>I did my absolute best and sometimes it's amazing and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's just what I can do because there are

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<v Speaker 3>people out there that just don't have the resources and

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<v Speaker 3>things deduction, yeah to do things. So I think that

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<v Speaker 3>I would want to be a role model for someone

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe doesn't have that really big support system, like

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<v Speaker 3>to be like okay, well you know, because that's how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel about like makeup artists and entrepreneur Hillary Homes.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like the first person I ever heard publicly

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<v Speaker 3>talk about being a strange from her parents. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was just like, Wow, that's incredible and has success and amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like a really successful makeup artist. She has her

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<v Speaker 1>own makeup brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Hillary, we need to pop the link

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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes because every single product of hers

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<v Speaker 2>is incredible, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think that like me, And all I

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<v Speaker 3>did was got her Blush launch and heard her talk right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like wow. And then I followed her

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh my god, she's a mum.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got a couple of kids, hubby, Like, she's flying

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<v Speaker 3>around the world developing new products. Like still this really

0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.760
<v Speaker 3>dwn to earth person. I was like, okay, wow, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it gives you a bit more ammunition to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>And being like yeah, I can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to do that for other people?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely? What about you? What's your legacy? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want people to remember you by?

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds really shallow. Go on, I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>remembered from my good TETs. It's like your face just sad.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh God, what's this idiot going to say? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be remembered as being really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that that's silly, but like, I like being

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<v Speaker 2>someone that other people can be around for. The funny

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that I am quite a grumpy, negative but.

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<v Speaker 1>You like to have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of love to have fun, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>it with a smile most of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So whether it's like this morning when I dropped lenof,

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<v Speaker 2>I then went into the toddler room to like a

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<v Speaker 2>different room to say hello to my niece, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the kids like raced over. I don't like kids

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<v Speaker 2>that much, like, but they all like Evelyn's aunt Evelyn's aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, hello, Harlow, Hello, blah blah blah, like

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<v Speaker 2>sang hello to them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And then.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all telling me their stories and I'm like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I stand up and I'm like, those are

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<v Speaker 2>all very boring stories children.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately I have to leave so I can't listen to

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<v Speaker 1>them anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just like walked down and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the teachers just pissing herself laughing, and she's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>the only person that like all the kids run to

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<v Speaker 2>when you come in. It's because I'm fun, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I am, so I'll be like, if

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<v Speaker 2>one of them's got some fake food, I'll always pretend

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<v Speaker 2>to eat it. And this is the thing, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I don't particularly like children that much, and I always

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<v Speaker 2>will try to be fun and have fun and bring vibes,

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<v Speaker 2>bring energy. Yeah, so I just want to be remembered

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<v Speaker 2>for that, like the glorified party girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, No, but I think like you're fun to be around,

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<v Speaker 3>so people always want you in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, isn't that I get get into.

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<v Speaker 2>Things even when I'm not that close to people because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So he should be less fun and clean my schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>But like also then sometimes when I'm really not feeling that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, like they're expecting a lot and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not bringing it expecting a lot and I can barely

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<v Speaker 2>manage you to at this point. But yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think if I die and people talk about, oh, she

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<v Speaker 2>was really fun, like I mean, they're certainly not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, she was so nice, she was so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>She had really stable mood.

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<v Speaker 2>She was such a stable, well rounded human. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to say that, are they. So yeah, fun makes

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<v Speaker 2>people happy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a sneaking suspicion that we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have the same answer for this. What's a dream or

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<v Speaker 3>goal you've always had but haven't pursued it yet? And

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<v Speaker 3>what's holding you back?

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<v Speaker 2>Three two one common up comedy?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, same, that needs to be our twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five goal. Are it was this year's goal?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? We were supposed to your classes together. Let's look

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<v Speaker 2>at into it springs. Yeah yeah, okay, you wait what

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>months August got fight? But we look at like spring class.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually need to look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do like a little workshop. Okay, we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is great, but what is holding us back? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it's none will show up or that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not funny enough to like hold it my own.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think all the people that enroll in this

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<v Speaker 1>class are actually funny? Oh no, But it's the dream

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<v Speaker 1>is actually to be doing stand up. Anyone can do

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<v Speaker 1>stand up? Have you seen how many comedians there are?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't want to be shit though, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>You're up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, people boom me, people don't boo, They just don't laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's working. I don't know what's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a boo. You can then make a

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<v Speaker 1>joke about the boom. Yeah, I don't know. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what though?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you also watch Baby Reindeer? No? Okay, well he

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<v Speaker 2>was a comedian. Neither his could be as bad as him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was awful. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>com day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go be under the wall there and change

0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 3>and when I shout out, you all got madam, welcome

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<v Speaker 3>you to the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that sound?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Great one person?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's why he wrote about how awful.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like he realized the premise. That is

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<v Speaker 2>not the premise.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did fall in love with her, didn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? He did? No, he didn't. He did.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a dream about having sex with her.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't. Actually, can you not.

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<v Speaker 1>Argue with me when you haven't watched the show and

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>You're so annoying somehow, I was like, my hairdresser told

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<v Speaker 3>me that that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a dream about having sex with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, understood, Dear lord.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the same reason why I haven't launched

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy podcast yet, because I'm like, what if no

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<v Speaker 2>one listens to it, at least with a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I do something with you? For foulses on

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<v Speaker 1>both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the comedy duos? Yeah, like Haimer shen Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this is like the Tales of Maladies and

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<v Speaker 2>Misfortune needs to start with like season one in my mind, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>called Unhinged. I've already written all of the episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>What why don't you just do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't written the content, I've written the title.

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<v Speaker 3>And the probably just start with one episode and get

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<v Speaker 3>it done, I know, and then I'll let you down easy.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't commit to one podcast episode? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 2>just record one.

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<v Speaker 1>And see how see what the flow is. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a manuscript.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe while you're gone it'll be my little project.

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<v Speaker 2>You go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you are gone at the moment, that's right. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your first experience with Louve?

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<v Speaker 1>With Louve, I honestly think and you're gonna be am.

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<v Speaker 2>I going to go get the crystals and throw them

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<v Speaker 2>at you again. If you say, Charlie, well that's.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm gonna say, because Kelly, it was the first

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<v Speaker 4>time that my love had been fully reciprocated, like he

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<v Speaker 4>loved everything about me, and before it was like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even count those stupid other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, you know, had you been in the ten

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<v Speaker 2>relationships before, we just won for like ten years and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think he loved you?

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<v Speaker 3>Not enough, okay, not enough to like commit in any way,

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and you were together for ten years. Yeah, because I

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 3>was like I didn't want to commit anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants to commit?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like in the time that you

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<v Speaker 2>were also moving overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we like dated long distance.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So there was like a period where we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>date for the one year that I was overseas a

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<v Speaker 3>last year, but we dated like long distance for like

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<v Speaker 3>three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was in a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Lust before, but with Charlie, it was like a love

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<v Speaker 3>because he was like he never judged me for anything.

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<v Speaker 3>He never thought my dreams were too silly or like

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<v Speaker 3>what I wanted to do was too silly. He gassed

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<v Speaker 3>me up on everything. I remember when I got. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I was with him when I got my job

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<v Speaker 3>at show poor.

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<v Speaker 2>You were we just started dating, yeah, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>like he was so cute, Like he sent me this

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<v Speaker 2>like meme and it was like Drake singing a song.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's so, it's so yeah, you like Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like a puzzle caddy sort of thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a puzzle caddy guy for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Mum brought me a puzzle caddy for

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday and I'm like, Mum, I already got one.

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to Honestly, you really don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>puzzle cad to say.

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<v Speaker 1>One too many, Honestly, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that's like so silly, but I nearly

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<v Speaker 3>the thing is he is the person I have told

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<v Speaker 3>the truth to about everything in my life. There's not

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<v Speaker 3>one thing I've ever been like, oh, I don't want

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 3>to tell him that without fear. I knew that I

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<v Speaker 3>could tell him things that I had done or that

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<v Speaker 3>had happened, and he would listen to them without judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that is the first time I've been

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<v Speaker 3>properly ever loved. I even said that in my wedding vowels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you did drug kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I'm just joking.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I had a shot of tequila before I

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<v Speaker 1>good for nerves. Well, the car had just caught on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was out. What about you, I would say, I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely don't count any You know when you have boyfriends

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<v Speaker 2>in hoard school and I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you don't know. You don't. Oh you don't.

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I lost you because at least hormones stopped masturbating and

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>humping everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do not love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it was with my first boyfriend, like

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<v Speaker 2>proper actual relationship. I was eighteen, had just moved to Sydney,

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<v Speaker 2>moved on campus. Yeah, and it was just we're there

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<v Speaker 2>for five or six years. I just don't think because

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>we were both so young, we'd never been in love before,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd never been in relationships before, both virgins.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, And I just can't relate. That's what I

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to say, like cart relate.

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I was a lot younger, you old bet, but you're eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds really like I shouldn't probably even say this

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<v Speaker 2>out loud, But I don't think that I will. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't or will never loved the way that I loved

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>him and I will never love. I mean, we're at UNI.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have many cares in the world, did we totally?

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<v Speaker 1>And which you're both first love like all of those.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, that's discovering sex, discovering living with someone,

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 2>discovering UNI, discovering living out of home, all.

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Of that was together, discovering ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, that is him that I'm referring to. So

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Luke and I met. He'd been jilted, I'd been jilted.

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>We were older, we both had several relationships. It's not

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the same, it's so different. Yeah and yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 2>just think that that would have definitely been my first

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<v Speaker 2>experience and God to be like eighteen and in love.

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 2>We used to share He was tall, like same as Luke.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tall. We shared a tiny single bed in a dorm.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I still don't understand why, as we're in love,

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<v Speaker 2>we just started up talking all night.

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<v Speaker 1>That is actually really sweet.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just like how yeah that innocence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's beautiful name. Wow, what do you wish you

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>would have prioritized or focused on earlier?

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, that's so easy. What travel? Oh yeah,

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I've always been such a little and I mean I

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>don't see the point in regretting different things, because it's

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>like that's what you needed and wanted. I was, I've

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 2>spoken about this before, very sheltered and very young.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>So I just moved from home to living on campus,

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to living with a boyfriend, to living with another boyfriend, yeah,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>to living overseas with a boyfriend, and then I was

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>single for not long. But I've always lived in sharehouses

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and I've always been very safe, and I've gone on

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>holidays of course. Yeah, but I really.

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Wish that I'd just spent a lot more time traveling.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And I've just always prioritized having fun and partying probably

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too much, and like looked forward to

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>things on the weekend or things rather than being like, no, no,

0:28:57.880 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna knuckle down and save a lot of money

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>and then go on a big epic trip or whatever. Yeah.

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>And then I've just to always had jobs that you

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>can't really take and I've worried too much about that

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>when it's like it's just a job.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know what you mean.

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I always like, obviously Lenny will do

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever he wants, but the money that I'm putting aside

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>for him now, for anything that he is involved with

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>in terms of content, which isn't often, but if he is,

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want him to spend it on a house

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>or a car or UNI. I want to spend on travel.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely.

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I want him to go and really live. You know

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>what I'd love him to do. I'd love him to

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>go work on a yacht. I know him to be

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>on a stewardos.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that existed. I would have one hundred

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>percent done it. My girlfriend did it. I'm so jealous.

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't people tell us how that existed?

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, when I met her, it was like long before

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>blowdeck was a thing, And when she would tell me

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>about these adventures.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how did you even know that that

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was a job.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I think she knew someone that had done it. And

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>then it's like a six week course that you've got

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 2>to do with proper like simulation and yeah, yeah, yeah

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it's quite cool. And then yeah she got to travel

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the world.

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>That's wild.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so cool. Idea, what about you? Because you did

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it all you did career, did travel?

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, And I just I wouldn't have been

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>able to like finish my degree as well do you

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like, I just don't know if

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I would have had enough time to.

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Prioritize anything else, maybe my friendships a little bit more.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I went.

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Overseas, I kind of just dipped, like I really focused

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>on being overseas and meeting new people and like kind

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 3>of thing.

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>But maybe I that hasn't impacted them long term, so

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I know it hasn't. So nothing.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh, probably saving like I've been in a better financial

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>position now, but it would have come at the cost

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 3>of something else.

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>So the thing, it's like, it's at the cost of

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 2>relationships but not ones that I'd still have now, and jobs,

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>like none of them were important the same.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I always do you think about like when I was

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>moving home from New York, I almost moved to London.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Ooh, think about that sliding doors known obviously I'm so

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>happy with the way like everything turned out.

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you well you knew Charlie, Yeah, Charlie,

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you got the job at Showpeo, you met.

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Me, yeah, exactly, Hello, got married at baby another one

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 3>on the way on the one. But I always think about,

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>like what would have happened had I done that, because

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 3>it's very strange like I always think about it's very

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 3>strange that I now live in Australia and I have

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 3>a pretty normal, like very regular, regular old Joe life.

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Stro my life.

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so much um follow the path less traveled,

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah, and you sound it's funny because you'll

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, you've just got like a really normal life.

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>But there's actually nothing wrong with that, and with that

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>comes a lot of comfort, yeah, and feelings of instrinsic joy. Well.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 3>I always said, oh god, I just wish I would

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 3>have been happy to like stay in one place, like

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 3>the bliss of of having enough, you know, like you

0:31:58.440 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>have that now.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I have that now exactly. So I think that that's

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a really nice thing about it is you get.

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 3>That perspective and you realize like that world still exists

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>out there and you can dip in and dip out,

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 3>but you've got your.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Little community is such a big thing. Yeah, people, all

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. So yeah, I guess nothing. I love that.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It's nice to hear you be positive about something. A

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>life well lived.

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>My dear, thank you so much.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>What is the most memorable book you've ever read and

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>what impact did it have on you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's recent. I think I've spoken about this. Oh,

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>if it's a.

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Lame parenting one, I'm going to throw It's.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Not, it's not. I can't remember the name of this book.

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>What's it about? And I'll tell you what book it was.

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think you'd know it was written by

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a black author.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh is it such a fun age?

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Your name's Riley Hiley?

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Read? Yeah, Riley highly read and also loll as if

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>you would know it, Kelly, are you silly old woman? Oh? Well,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>first one, I guessed, And this is why it was

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 2>so eye opening for me. Can you talk to me

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>about this book? Because I only got a few chapters

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>in and then I got bored, which then I was

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>like uncomfortable with being bored because I was like, am

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I being racist by being bored? Well?

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that what it is is having the awareness, right,

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Because there's another influencer who reviews books from time to time,

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 3>and she put this book up and was like, yeah,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really enjoy it.

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 2>It has like really basic language, and I was like,

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>that was the point. It's not written for you, But

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>that was the she wrote it from that perspective.

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and I just did someone seriously not get that.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't so much about the book.

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 3>It was about the fact that I realized I was

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 3>reading from a perspective that's similar to my own. So

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>how this character walked out of her front door and

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>now life as a black woman. The talk about hair,

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>about skin color, about how people perceived you, these little

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 3>things that happen all the time in my daily life

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 3>had never been articulated before in a book written on paper.

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, I've been reading books

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 3>my whole life from from a white perspective and never

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 3>known to the point where I instagrammed this author and

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 3>I said, I just wanted to let you know, this

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 3>is the first time I've ever read a book that

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 3>had a black protagonist. You made me feel so seen

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 3>in a way I never even realized. I knew I

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 3>needed to.

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Be, which is crazy to me. And she wrote back

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and she said, I had it back to you.

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she said I had the exact same experience, and

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 3>that's like, yeah, partly why I became a writer. And

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 3>then she's like, you need to read these books, which

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 3>is amazing. Yeah, through three of them, I've got two left.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take one overseas with me.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I could tell you what some of

0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>them are that she do.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 3>We're not doing this again, okay, anyway, she's a supportive

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 3>sister queen over there.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 2>It's only because well, also, you're such a book buff

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that I'm such a book buff, and I do try

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 2>to behind the scenes do when the Black Lives Matter

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>movement happens. This is off topic, but a few years

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 2>ago and everyone was posting those fucking squares and I

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, for goodness sake, what I did was

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I spent a couple of days researching into important books

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 2>and essays and podcasts that people could listen to if

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to learn more. So that's where I came

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 2>up with, like, I did lots of research and found

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>like a list of ten books that are written from

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a black perspective. So I really like books as well,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and I love that. Well, you saw what I did

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>with the race episode. I was like, here's some great children,

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and that was brilliant. I love being able to recommend

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>books about different topics totally.

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 3>And that was just why I think this book was

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 3>so significant to me, because I thought that I was

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 3>pretty switched on with me and exploring my connection to

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 3>culture and all of those different things. And then I

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>just opened a book one day and I went, oh,

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:10.439
<v Speaker 3>my god, there's a hole.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>You can be switched on though, but you've still never

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 2>read an actual novel through the lens of your own

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 2>experience exactly.

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And it was just so I don't know, there was just.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Something so easy about it, Like I can imagine myself

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 3>and her shoes, like so often when I'm reading a book,

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, you know, and they're describing the person

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 3>what they look like, and I'm like, oh, that's just

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 3>not me. Not that you need to be the character,

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 3>but I just think it was just a really life

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>changing moment for me.

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I've got somewhere over in my bookshelf. Maybe I need

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>to hunt it out and give it another.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Go and try to read it.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 2>I never thought to read it through the eyes of

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>how I would feel as a black woman living life.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I just started reading it and I'm like, oh,

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 2>this is just a book. I'm not really getting into

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the plot. Yeah, but maybe I need to give it

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>another go. Now, Yeah, give it a go, but then

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you'll have to give my one to go.

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, what is it? I actually don't know if

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I can between the top two.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Can I do it quickly? Can I do it quickly?

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, We're not going to make you bick.

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, I just have to go get one

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>of them because I want you to see how many

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>times it's been read. Oh my God, talk me through it.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it a romance novel? No, it just looks like

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it from the outside.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Despite her fairy tale childhood of extravagant wealth and

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>royal privilege, Amia accepts that she will be sold into

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>marriage and that she will never be able to step

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>outside her house without being swathed in black veils. But

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 2>she's not prepared for the savagery of her husband she

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 2>first meets on her wedding night, or the increasingly abusive

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>control he exerts over her. In a daring attempt to

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>save her life and sanity, she escapes with her baby

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>to start a new life in the United States, where

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>she discovers true love as well as a fulfilling career.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Yet Amia must always live with a.

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Terrifying threat of her past and her ruthless husband catching

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>up with her. It is a powerful story of love

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and revenge and a moving tribute to the strength and

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>endurance of women who defy the yoke of male dominance.

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>So I first read this when I was early teen,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, like maybe eleven or twelve. Yeah, And I've

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>just read it clearly that many times since. And I'd

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 2>say that the reason this book impacted me so much

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>is because it, I guess, opened my eyes to the

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>inequalities around the world, that not everyone was as lucky

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>as me. So it's based in a Muslim country, so

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and very like there's stoning and shit in this book.

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know what language to use about this properly.

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>So I do apologize, but it got me interested in

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>feminism as human rights. And I think it just made

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>me realize so much about the world that I was

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>so sheltered. And it's just a beautiful book.

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll read it. Got it on my kindle.

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving you my copy in case anything happened

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to it. It's called Mirage by I can't even pronounce

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the name. So I'm so apologetic. H So, how kassogi

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to find?

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh really?

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's why I'm like, you know, not heavy wight. No,

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:17.959
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have a take I will try to find

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>a link. The other book, A lot more people would

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>have heard of this or recommend it. It's called The

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Five People You Meet in Heaven. It's by someone called

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Mitch ah Grief One. This book. I never read it,

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 2>even though I saw it on lists of people's favorite

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>books or impactful books or whatever, because I was like, Eh,

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to read a god book. It's not

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a god book. It starts off this man dies and

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 2>in order for him to get into heaven, he meets

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 2>the five people that had the biggest impact on his life,

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 2>and it goes through the story about how he met

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>them and what happened type thing. Yea, and it was

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 2>just crazy like that he didn't even remember one of

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the people that had the biggest impacts on his life

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 2>because of that happened. Yeah, right, anyway, it is the

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>most beautiful story, Like it makes me cry every time.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 2>It's just stunning.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Is it sad? No, it's happy sad?

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, neither, it's very sad, but it's written through positive

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't really know how to describe it.

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that makes sense. And now I want to

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>read both of these books.

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 2>You're not having this one. I'll try to find you

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the copy the other one. Oh, thank you, all right,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>last one, no, last one. What is something that you

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>are passionate about and how did you discover that passion? Okay,

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.479
<v Speaker 2>well this just inspired me. Oh we just were talking

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 2>about books books reading.

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I have always, always, always been a really good reader.

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 2>My parents encouraged it from such a young age. My

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 2>part apparently he passed when I was five, so four

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 2>or five. He apparently would read to me all the time.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>He loved to read, and I would go and get

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>books and it was just my favorite thing to do

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>when I was really little.

0:40:58.600 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It's really cute.

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And then I was just a really good reader. Like

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 2>It's something I picked up very quickly, probably because I've

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it so much. And so I was reading like

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>short the Little Sister Big Sister books before I even

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 2>got to school because Mum would be ordering them. And yeah,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>like I was just a very very good reader. And

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I used to read.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen books a week.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And I know that because we went to the library

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>every single week one afternoon after school and I was

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 2>allowed twelve books on my own membership card. And then

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Mum and em would generally let me have a few,

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>so that's where I would get my fifteen. Oh, and

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I would read all of them in that week. That

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>is wild, Listen, I didn't have many other things to do.

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have many friends. This was in private school.

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I was bullied, didn't have friends. Still, Like, how wonderful

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that you could just lose.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yourself in books.

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've always just loved them. And I've always because

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm a very good reader. I've always been a very

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>fast reader, which is good in some ways. And I

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 2>think it comes down to, like I'll hyper fixate on

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>something and I actually won't be able to put it down.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>So I would be walking to school reading my book,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>a little loser with my really thing, and that is cute.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank god audible books exist now so I can walk

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 2>without my head in a book.

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and laser and laser without the thick glasses.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>No, there's anything wrong with thick glasses.

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's annoying though, because it's quite an expensive habit. Really,

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I really smashed through the books quite quickly because I'm fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quick, like Luke. Sometimes.

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>We've been on holidays before quite a long time ago,

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and He'll be like.

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who's standing between you and a holidays?

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I think you not just start that book a few

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>hours ago and I'll have been like finishing it. So

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm just very quick, which allows me to absorb a

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 2>lot more. And if I'm listening to a book, which

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>thank God for audio books, I know, and.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>To audio books, I just don't know if I'd enjoy

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>them as much.

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a specific type of book though. There are some

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 2>that I will only read, and there are some if

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>it's an easy like thriller, I don't need to read that.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like listening to your podcast or just listen to

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>it really enjoy the story. I like long form content

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 2>like that because I don't know. I don't want to

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>just listen to something it goes for an hour. I

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 2>want to listen to long form content. And I listened

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 2>to things at one point five speed, which makes things

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 2>fast as well.

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>That is just wild.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I consume things quickly. I often wish that TV could

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 2>be quicker. I think that's why I don't watch a

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 2>bunch of TV because it's not fast enough. Well.

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Also a lot of the suspense and the thrillers in

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the pauses, so you're like quick, we don't need these posts.

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. You could have shaved several seconds off here.

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So yes, that's what I would say. I am very

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>passional passionate. It's a very strong word.

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>A strong word, yeah, but it's a great word.

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And i'd say, like I've read like most people's top

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 2>fifty list or whatever, I would have read a lot

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 2>so I can have I saw this challenge on TikTok

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's like eight z books of the year, like

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 2>how many books have you read this year? From the alphabet?

0:43:58.280 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>And I could fill it up already.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Why are you jealous?

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I just do not have the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think that there's a level of snobbery

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<v Speaker 2>in people's assumption about reading. What do you mean, like

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 2>you think, oh, it's so good that you're reading, it's

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 2>such a good habit to have or.

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Why so why?

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think they're well read.

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>It's that's inherent snobbiness.

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Though. It is a little bit, but it's a stop

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to get around I know. But it's not classes. Though.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not classes because for people who don't have access

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to all of the tech and all of that. They

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 3>can go to a local library and get books or

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 3>books from a cafe or whatever, like, yeah, it actually

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 3>isn't I think it is actually very inclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I do think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe I'm just careful with it because

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I never want to be like braggy, like I always

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.720
<v Speaker 2>have to caveat that with like because I just feel.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it's something that people it's become this weird flex

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>with like book talking. It is a flex. Get it like,

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it is a flex.

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's one that I'm willing to get

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 3>around because I do think reading does have a big

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 3>impact on you.

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Can I show you. I'm willing to admit this. I'm

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a hypocrite, so I'm like, oh, I

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>just don't really like book snobs when people. When people

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>are like, oh, yeah, I'm such an avid reader. I've

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 2>read all of the Colleen Hooper books, I'm like, oh,

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 2>for Christ's sake, that does not count.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>The books are terrible. You are a true book I

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 1>actually am.

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes Yeah it's okay, but I love that you don't

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>want anyone to feel excluded or like that someone since.

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>They don't read. I'm like I don't care. Yeah, I

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's fine. I just really enjoy reading and I

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>just don't do it.

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, God, to be fair, I'd probably get a

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 2>lot more done if I didn't read.

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>So I know, I just just like and I love

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>getting recommendations from people.

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm part of, like a lot of little Facebook groups

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 2>that we discuss the recommendation stop.

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you think of one that you're passionate about?

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Puzzling is another?

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of hobbies, I do. I am

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a hobby queen. I don't have that many hobbies. I

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>guess they're like, this is going to be lame. Cooking.

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I got really into it, maybe just a

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, like it's a recent thing.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you a good cook? Yes, I've eaten a sandwich

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 2>of yours before that was yummy, and I know you've

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>been doing dinnerly, but that's like hard to I'm a

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 2>good cook, Okay, It's just sometimes you cook things and

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 2>they don't look very Are you joking? Those weird healthy

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 2>muffins that you made the kids And Lenny just looked.

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>At it and was like, absolutely not.

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Look, I don't make a lot of yummy stuff for

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 3>the kids in the house. It's all bland with no

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.359
<v Speaker 3>fucking sugar, is very healthy shit. And then they come

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 3>to me for the trek and they're like, girl, no,

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 3>I think that cooking brings me a lot of joy

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 3>because honestly, it like makes me really relax.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Like Charlie's like, do you want to do bed and

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>bath tonight? And I'll cook and I'm like, no, no, no, no,

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you do that.

0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I've got this.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>It's all right, I'll do it. I'll do it.

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 3>But then in my mind, I'm like, it's so relaxing.

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Like I put one of my records on I'm doing

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 3>my cooking. There's just something about it that I find

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 3>really relaxing. And then right at the end, I'm just like,

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, this is amazing. And you love eating,

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 3>so I love, love love food. I also really love baking.

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 3>That's something that I don't do as much.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I need to try something of yours that is do

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you my.

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Orange and almond cake? And it is so moist. Oh yeah,

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's really good.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah without gluten you're just using armameal dults. It's

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 3>like the most perfect cake for that. But I just

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 3>really am passionate about it. And that's why I think

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been really liking Dinnerly because it's making me like

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have dentrists, yeah, because I wouldn't have time

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 3>during the week to like think of a recipe, make

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 3>sure I've got all the ingredients, blah blah blah blah.

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Also, people can't afford and they don't want the food

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 2>waste of going, Oh, I really want to try these

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Caribbean tacos, Like I've got to go buy sixty million

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 2>different exactly for that, and then they'd all go to

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.240
<v Speaker 2>waste because you only need a little bit of everything.

0:47:58.360 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I liked it, and I said, this is

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 3>one of the store as that I put up. Was

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>like it's making me more confident and adventurous in the kitchen,

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Like I love sitting down with the recipe book and

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 3>looking through recipes. Like I always take those free magazines

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>from like Coals or Waies or Harris Farm.

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>To look at like you know, oh, I like to

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 1>do that. Yeah, And like I always will dogg.

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Ear them for Christmas and I'll make one of those

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>recipes for Christmas or something.

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>So like I don't know, I just really enjoy it.

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's really calming for me.

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I think that's a great passion. Yeah,

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 2>because it's useful.

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>It's reading usul. Reading's great, reading's good sorts of conversation.

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You can make friends. You can't make friends with salad.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.959
<v Speaker 2>I love people that cook, cook and that enjoy cooking

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 2>because you know it's not a chore for them to

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>do it. Yeah, people want me to cook for them.

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 2>They know that I'm doing it gritting my teeth because

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't enjoy like I do it.

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you enjoy it? I just I don't care.

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you prep all of the ingredients before you start cooking?

0:48:57.880 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? Like?

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you cut up everything before you start cooking? That

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>annoys me even having to do that, But that is

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 1>what changed cooking for me. It's because if you prep

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.320
<v Speaker 1>all of the ingredients first, you're just going like this.

0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I find you're just really stirring at it. It is fine,

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>its stressful.

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I like it when it's something like dinnerly because I'm

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 2>not having to think, and then I can listen to

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>or a podcast while I'm doing I just don't care.

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And I generally have to make a version for all

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 2>three of this.

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, see, Charlie just eats vegetarian.

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Luke would, but I have to make meat for land anyway,

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>so I make both of them meat fair. I do

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the end of product, of course.

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's delicious, yum me.

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 2>That was a little bit of a different episode. It was.

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed it.

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I got to know you a little

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:45.879
<v Speaker 1>bit more.

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>What surprised you the most about that conversation? Was it

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>my well read mirage?

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I really want to read that book now. I

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's just always nice to have like

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a deeper conversation with friends.

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 2>This is what I would. Someone say something like that

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to me, then ask me what I've been doing lately.

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I know any day of the week I cringe away

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 2>from I just I don't know how to even talk.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I really love these conversation starters. I think

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they're really great. I always would be like conversation Carns,

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm.

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like, actually, you've made my brain think in

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 3>a different way, and for that I'm very happy.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:24.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what I aim to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's all I've got time for today, folks. He's

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna go back to a holidays. I've got to go

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 1>back to uh where am I right now?

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>The Netherlands, I don't know, somewhere, So we know she's

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.280
<v Speaker 2>off having a gallaghervanting, having a wonderful time, probably pushing

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 2>a stroller going yeah. Probably.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you like today's episode, if you like just

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<v Speaker 3>Us in general the show, make sure you rate and

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<v Speaker 2>Of shit, is it? Sure does.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode was produced by myself, he Resells, and Kelly mccharen,

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<v Speaker 3>with audio production by the lovely Madeline Joanna.

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<v Speaker 2>I've given up to talking, That's why I just made

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 2>you do that, Barbie.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you not going to say anything?

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<v Speaker 2>M hm