1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,624 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,304 --> 00:00:28,264 Speaker 3: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 5 00:00:28,304 --> 00:00:31,984 Speaker 3: culture Fixed. I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick. Look, 6 00:00:32,304 --> 00:00:34,784 Speaker 3: we're coming towards the end of the year. We're doing 7 00:00:34,784 --> 00:00:38,024 Speaker 3: our New Year's resolutions and everything that's on everyone's list, 8 00:00:38,144 --> 00:00:42,264 Speaker 3: I know is to read more books. So we've got 9 00:00:42,424 --> 00:00:43,544 Speaker 3: book recommendations. 10 00:00:43,584 --> 00:00:45,944 Speaker 2: But also I feel like I read over the summer 11 00:00:45,984 --> 00:00:48,384 Speaker 2: holidays because obviously we're lucky enough to be on leave. 12 00:00:48,464 --> 00:00:49,944 Speaker 2: But even tho it's a slur vibe, I feel like 13 00:00:49,984 --> 00:00:52,904 Speaker 2: I read more books in the summer holidays than sometimes 14 00:00:52,944 --> 00:00:55,824 Speaker 2: I do during the year, because you can get through 15 00:00:55,864 --> 00:00:57,944 Speaker 2: like a good ten or so books, maybe even more 16 00:00:57,984 --> 00:00:58,224 Speaker 2: than that. 17 00:00:58,544 --> 00:01:00,504 Speaker 3: Yes, And there's something about like I feel like the 18 00:01:00,584 --> 00:01:03,664 Speaker 3: summer read, Like the term summer read really took off 19 00:01:03,704 --> 00:01:07,064 Speaker 3: this year in particular in the US. And I hate 20 00:01:07,064 --> 00:01:08,704 Speaker 3: to be that person, but I'm always the type of 21 00:01:08,704 --> 00:01:10,904 Speaker 3: person that if I am lucky enough to be able 22 00:01:10,944 --> 00:01:12,624 Speaker 3: to go away in the summer at like a beach 23 00:01:12,704 --> 00:01:14,544 Speaker 3: or by the pool, I like, take a book for 24 00:01:14,624 --> 00:01:17,944 Speaker 3: the esthetic and then I get really into it, but 25 00:01:18,024 --> 00:01:20,544 Speaker 3: you do read it, yeah, because I get really into it, 26 00:01:20,624 --> 00:01:22,144 Speaker 3: but I do it for the photos first. 27 00:01:22,504 --> 00:01:24,344 Speaker 2: Okay, it's very brave for you to admit that, because 28 00:01:24,344 --> 00:01:25,664 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people do. I feel 29 00:01:25,664 --> 00:01:28,584 Speaker 2: like Instagram really, especially when it first kicked off, really 30 00:01:28,664 --> 00:01:30,984 Speaker 2: kind of lifted all of these book sales. I don't 31 00:01:31,024 --> 00:01:32,224 Speaker 2: have a lot of data to back that up, but 32 00:01:32,264 --> 00:01:33,904 Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, people needed a book in 33 00:01:33,904 --> 00:01:35,824 Speaker 2: the background their coffee, they needed a book at the beach, 34 00:01:36,024 --> 00:01:38,264 Speaker 2: but they were only ever picking a certain number of 35 00:01:38,264 --> 00:01:41,304 Speaker 2: books and a certain style with the in Instagram books. 36 00:01:41,344 --> 00:01:42,904 Speaker 2: So yeah, you have to sort of cast in it 37 00:01:42,944 --> 00:01:43,384 Speaker 2: wider than that. 38 00:01:43,504 --> 00:01:45,464 Speaker 3: But you're very brave. You've had a great time with that. 39 00:01:45,544 --> 00:01:50,304 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So we thought that for this episode, we'd 40 00:01:50,344 --> 00:01:53,064 Speaker 3: give you some of our favorite reads that have come 41 00:01:53,104 --> 00:01:56,184 Speaker 3: out this year that you can read over the summer 42 00:01:56,304 --> 00:01:58,224 Speaker 3: indulge in it. It's kind of like similar to how 43 00:01:58,224 --> 00:02:00,104 Speaker 3: we do our Friday episodes, where we give you a 44 00:02:00,144 --> 00:02:03,664 Speaker 3: TV show or movie recommendation for you to go and watch, 45 00:02:03,784 --> 00:02:06,704 Speaker 3: and then the rules are that you tell us how 46 00:02:06,744 --> 00:02:09,864 Speaker 3: good our recommendations are. So we've got a few for 47 00:02:09,944 --> 00:02:12,544 Speaker 3: you to but first we thought that we'd go over 48 00:02:12,624 --> 00:02:17,184 Speaker 3: some more. I guess entertainment skewed books like celebrity memoir, 49 00:02:17,384 --> 00:02:21,104 Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk about a celebrity memoir that 50 00:02:21,264 --> 00:02:23,264 Speaker 3: came out this year that I feel like kind of 51 00:02:23,304 --> 00:02:26,624 Speaker 3: fell a bit under the radar. It's a memoir by 52 00:02:26,824 --> 00:02:29,744 Speaker 3: Lisa Marie Presley and it's called From Here to the 53 00:02:29,784 --> 00:02:34,664 Speaker 3: Great Unknown. So she actually passed away sadly earlier this year, 54 00:02:34,664 --> 00:02:37,944 Speaker 3: and she passed away before she finished writing the memoir. 55 00:02:38,424 --> 00:02:41,624 Speaker 3: So as she was writing it, she asked for her daughter, 56 00:02:41,744 --> 00:02:44,704 Speaker 3: who we know from Daisy Jones and The Six Riley Keo, 57 00:02:45,024 --> 00:02:47,824 Speaker 3: to help her with the memoir. And Riley has spoken 58 00:02:47,824 --> 00:02:51,704 Speaker 3: in interviews about writing this how her mom sadly passed 59 00:02:51,744 --> 00:02:55,264 Speaker 3: away like a month after she asked Riley to step 60 00:02:55,264 --> 00:02:58,624 Speaker 3: into help. So Riley ended up completing the memoir and 61 00:02:58,784 --> 00:03:03,144 Speaker 3: it is so so beautiful. I highly recommend if you're 62 00:03:03,184 --> 00:03:07,184 Speaker 3: able to listen to it the audio version, because Julia 63 00:03:07,264 --> 00:03:11,944 Speaker 3: Roberts narrates the memoir. Plus, because Lisa Marie was so 64 00:03:12,024 --> 00:03:14,104 Speaker 3: sick that a lot of the memoir was like her 65 00:03:14,224 --> 00:03:17,064 Speaker 3: recording voice notes for Riley and those voice notes I 66 00:03:17,144 --> 00:03:20,184 Speaker 3: also played in the audio version. It's so good. She 67 00:03:20,224 --> 00:03:22,744 Speaker 3: talks about so much of her life which was so 68 00:03:22,864 --> 00:03:26,864 Speaker 3: sadly tragic. She talks about her relationship with her dad, Elvis. 69 00:03:26,944 --> 00:03:29,384 Speaker 3: She is like the only daughter of Elvis Presley. He 70 00:03:29,424 --> 00:03:31,944 Speaker 3: passed away when she was nine. She talked about how 71 00:03:31,984 --> 00:03:34,664 Speaker 3: she was so young and she never wanted him to die, 72 00:03:34,784 --> 00:03:37,104 Speaker 3: and she would like write poems about not wanting him 73 00:03:37,104 --> 00:03:40,144 Speaker 3: to die. She also talked about her struggles with addiction 74 00:03:40,464 --> 00:03:44,584 Speaker 3: and her relationship with fame. The loss of her son Benjamin, Yeah, 75 00:03:44,584 --> 00:03:47,344 Speaker 3: that was incredibly sad. And she also talked about how 76 00:03:47,504 --> 00:03:50,024 Speaker 3: like she kind of kept him like for around two 77 00:03:50,104 --> 00:03:53,144 Speaker 3: months before he was buried, and she talked so vulnerably 78 00:03:53,144 --> 00:03:55,904 Speaker 3: about that, about how she knew that most parents would 79 00:03:55,944 --> 00:03:58,384 Speaker 3: find that so wild, but for her was so comforting. 80 00:03:58,584 --> 00:04:01,064 Speaker 3: She talked about her relationship with Michael Jackson, which I 81 00:04:01,064 --> 00:04:04,504 Speaker 3: completely forgot about in so much detail. It's just such 82 00:04:04,504 --> 00:04:07,824 Speaker 3: an honest look at her life. And I can't even 83 00:04:07,824 --> 00:04:10,984 Speaker 3: imagine what Riley would have gone through to complete that 84 00:04:11,104 --> 00:04:13,384 Speaker 3: memoir for her, but I'm sure it would have just 85 00:04:13,584 --> 00:04:17,504 Speaker 3: made that connection so much stronger. But it's definitely one 86 00:04:17,544 --> 00:04:19,344 Speaker 3: that even if you don't know, because I didn't know 87 00:04:19,504 --> 00:04:22,984 Speaker 3: anything about Lisa Marie Presley, like she was more my parents' generation, 88 00:04:23,064 --> 00:04:25,544 Speaker 3: they knew a lot about her. But I'm so glad 89 00:04:25,584 --> 00:04:28,384 Speaker 3: I read it. It's just like such an extraordinary life 90 00:04:28,384 --> 00:04:30,704 Speaker 3: that I feel like everyone should understand. 91 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:33,424 Speaker 2: Well, it's a very good recommendation, especially because everything I 92 00:04:33,464 --> 00:04:35,824 Speaker 2: know about that woman's life has come through other people 93 00:04:35,864 --> 00:04:39,504 Speaker 2: doing interviews about her or her childhood being depicted in 94 00:04:39,584 --> 00:04:41,824 Speaker 2: TV shows, so it'd be really interesting. 95 00:04:41,504 --> 00:04:42,864 Speaker 3: To hear it from her point of view. 96 00:04:43,064 --> 00:04:44,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to kind of throw it back to 97 00:04:44,864 --> 00:04:47,784 Speaker 2: another big book that came out this year, pretty much 98 00:04:47,824 --> 00:04:49,664 Speaker 2: the biggest book of the year, just to kind of 99 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:51,824 Speaker 2: refresh your memory, and I'm sure most people have read it, 100 00:04:52,104 --> 00:04:56,784 Speaker 2: which is Prince Harry's controversial but also very enlightening memoir 101 00:04:56,864 --> 00:04:58,344 Speaker 2: Spare was that this year? 102 00:04:58,464 --> 00:04:59,384 Speaker 3: That was this year? 103 00:05:00,064 --> 00:05:02,664 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what's it? 104 00:05:02,784 --> 00:05:06,024 Speaker 3: Actually? Yeah, that's insane. I feel like I've known that 105 00:05:06,064 --> 00:05:07,784 Speaker 3: memoir for five years at least. 106 00:05:07,984 --> 00:05:10,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, but only because it really took over the world 107 00:05:10,744 --> 00:05:12,744 Speaker 2: and took over our lives and had such a long 108 00:05:12,784 --> 00:05:16,224 Speaker 2: tale of content coming out that it just really did 109 00:05:16,264 --> 00:05:17,304 Speaker 2: become I guess like. 110 00:05:17,224 --> 00:05:20,464 Speaker 3: The Lizabeth Arden cream went up and tales. It did 111 00:05:20,544 --> 00:05:21,984 Speaker 3: become funny. You mentioned that. We'll get into that. 112 00:05:22,224 --> 00:05:24,504 Speaker 2: It did become kind of the book event of the year, 113 00:05:24,784 --> 00:05:27,544 Speaker 2: and also it became the fastest selling nonfiction book of 114 00:05:27,584 --> 00:05:30,384 Speaker 2: all time, very quickly broke all these records and is 115 00:05:30,424 --> 00:05:32,784 Speaker 2: still selling at quite an intense rate. So people are 116 00:05:32,824 --> 00:05:35,024 Speaker 2: still picking up that copy, and like, I look at 117 00:05:35,024 --> 00:05:36,984 Speaker 2: those stats of people still buying it now and just think, 118 00:05:37,024 --> 00:05:39,144 Speaker 2: how could you not know everything that's on the pages 119 00:05:39,184 --> 00:05:41,424 Speaker 2: of those books because it was so much coverage around it. 120 00:05:41,704 --> 00:05:43,424 Speaker 2: But just to kind of throw it back, there were 121 00:05:43,544 --> 00:05:46,584 Speaker 2: a lot of heartbreaking moments in terms of Prince Harry 122 00:05:46,624 --> 00:05:48,464 Speaker 2: talking about the day he found out his mother had 123 00:05:48,504 --> 00:05:50,984 Speaker 2: died and what happened in the months following that, and 124 00:05:51,064 --> 00:05:53,624 Speaker 2: that's the perspective from him that we hadn't really had before. 125 00:05:53,864 --> 00:05:57,024 Speaker 2: But also just a bit more of insight into what 126 00:05:57,064 --> 00:05:59,344 Speaker 2: had happened from his point of view when he was 127 00:05:59,384 --> 00:06:01,784 Speaker 2: about to marry Megan Markle and how they left the church, 128 00:06:01,864 --> 00:06:04,544 Speaker 2: and that story about him and William having that fight 129 00:06:04,664 --> 00:06:07,704 Speaker 2: in the house and him saying that William pushed him down, 130 00:06:07,784 --> 00:06:10,864 Speaker 2: broke his shell necklace and smashed the dog bowl and 131 00:06:10,904 --> 00:06:13,184 Speaker 2: they had that kind of altercation, Like that has burned 132 00:06:13,184 --> 00:06:15,184 Speaker 2: into my brain forever. Like I know, we kind of 133 00:06:15,224 --> 00:06:17,184 Speaker 2: laughed about it because he broke sean nicklace. But also 134 00:06:17,264 --> 00:06:20,904 Speaker 2: that's two brothers. It's getting physically, you know, angry towards 135 00:06:20,944 --> 00:06:24,384 Speaker 2: each other, and that being the moment that broke their relationships. 136 00:06:24,464 --> 00:06:27,344 Speaker 2: There's all those kind of very heavy moments. But also 137 00:06:27,624 --> 00:06:30,664 Speaker 2: it gave us sayings like frozen Todger, which is something 138 00:06:30,704 --> 00:06:31,904 Speaker 2: I prefer not to know about. 139 00:06:32,144 --> 00:06:34,304 Speaker 3: No, I did not like that part of the book, 140 00:06:34,424 --> 00:06:36,464 Speaker 3: but I was like one of those people who was 141 00:06:36,504 --> 00:06:39,784 Speaker 3: a late adopter of Spare. I think I only read 142 00:06:39,784 --> 00:06:43,864 Speaker 3: it like three months ago. Oh really, Yeah, and you're right, 143 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:46,384 Speaker 3: I didn't know a lot about the stuff. But I 144 00:06:46,424 --> 00:06:48,584 Speaker 3: think reading the whole thing from beginning to end just 145 00:06:48,584 --> 00:06:50,144 Speaker 3: gave me a whole new perspective. 146 00:06:50,264 --> 00:06:52,904 Speaker 2: Remember, everyone was hunting for the woman that Harry lost 147 00:06:52,904 --> 00:06:55,944 Speaker 2: his virginity to in the Spare lot behind the pub 148 00:06:56,224 --> 00:06:59,304 Speaker 2: where he was talking about being mounted or mounting her again. 149 00:06:59,344 --> 00:07:00,664 Speaker 2: I tried to block that bit out and then the 150 00:07:00,664 --> 00:07:01,544 Speaker 2: woman came forward. 151 00:07:01,824 --> 00:07:04,504 Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, it's so weird because like you're when you 152 00:07:04,544 --> 00:07:08,224 Speaker 3: read it after everything, like all the names behind the 153 00:07:08,224 --> 00:07:10,504 Speaker 3: scenes don't evennounced it just like it's so funny, like 154 00:07:10,504 --> 00:07:13,144 Speaker 3: you're watching a movie unfold, yes, with spoilers. 155 00:07:13,584 --> 00:07:15,784 Speaker 2: So he's writing another book, is the other interesting thing. 156 00:07:15,864 --> 00:07:17,824 Speaker 2: So just think about all the information and it's like a. 157 00:07:17,784 --> 00:07:20,264 Speaker 3: Well written book, Like it's really well written. 158 00:07:20,704 --> 00:07:22,624 Speaker 2: It's got a ghostwriter as well. It's funny because the 159 00:07:22,624 --> 00:07:25,064 Speaker 2: ghostwriter who is like credited in the book, so it's 160 00:07:25,064 --> 00:07:27,304 Speaker 2: not a secret. It's kind of interesting because he talked 161 00:07:27,304 --> 00:07:29,064 Speaker 2: a little bit about what it was like working with Harry, 162 00:07:29,064 --> 00:07:30,824 Speaker 2: and I think a few times it was quite like 163 00:07:31,304 --> 00:07:33,824 Speaker 2: you can see they had quite an interesting creative relationship 164 00:07:33,864 --> 00:07:36,064 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, but you know, it did work out 165 00:07:36,144 --> 00:07:37,264 Speaker 2: quite well. But I think a lot of it was 166 00:07:37,304 --> 00:07:39,984 Speaker 2: Harry like telling his story and then the writer putting 167 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:42,144 Speaker 2: it all to the picture and then Harry saying no, no, 168 00:07:42,224 --> 00:07:43,304 Speaker 2: leave the Todgi bit in. 169 00:07:43,184 --> 00:07:48,184 Speaker 3: Oh God, Harry. So we thought we'd break this next 170 00:07:48,224 --> 00:07:51,144 Speaker 3: part down with like both of us recommending two of 171 00:07:51,184 --> 00:07:54,064 Speaker 3: our favorite books that we read this year. And there 172 00:07:54,064 --> 00:07:56,104 Speaker 3: are also books that we think are like great summer 173 00:07:56,104 --> 00:07:58,784 Speaker 3: reads for you to read over the holidays and then 174 00:07:58,864 --> 00:08:00,624 Speaker 3: let us know how good they are because they're great. 175 00:08:00,744 --> 00:08:04,144 Speaker 3: So The first one I want to recommend is an 176 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:07,264 Speaker 3: Emily Henry book. You might have seen the name, you 177 00:08:07,304 --> 00:08:09,984 Speaker 3: would definitely recognize the cover because she has such distinctive 178 00:08:09,944 --> 00:08:11,944 Speaker 3: cos of a book. But she is like a chick 179 00:08:11,944 --> 00:08:14,784 Speaker 3: lit romantic author and her all of her books are 180 00:08:14,904 --> 00:08:18,184 Speaker 3: very like I would say, easy and digestible, very very 181 00:08:18,264 --> 00:08:20,944 Speaker 3: quick read. They're vodka read for sure. Should we go 182 00:08:20,984 --> 00:08:22,664 Speaker 3: over the meanings. 183 00:08:22,424 --> 00:08:24,944 Speaker 2: Of yes, again, interesting that I wouldn't call this a 184 00:08:25,024 --> 00:08:27,424 Speaker 2: vodka book, but yeah, I know, but different things can 185 00:08:27,464 --> 00:08:29,264 Speaker 2: be for different people. So if you're not a cross 186 00:08:29,264 --> 00:08:32,544 Speaker 2: the vegetables, vodka and chocolate. That is the system that 187 00:08:32,624 --> 00:08:35,704 Speaker 2: I used to break the Laura scale, the Laura recommendation 188 00:08:35,864 --> 00:08:39,064 Speaker 2: system that I have formulated over the years, and basically 189 00:08:39,104 --> 00:08:40,864 Speaker 2: it just became a shorthand between my friends and I 190 00:08:40,904 --> 00:08:43,104 Speaker 2: when they would always come to me for book recommendations, 191 00:08:43,464 --> 00:08:45,144 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this has just got to 192 00:08:45,144 --> 00:08:47,224 Speaker 2: become a quick thing. So we broke it down to 193 00:08:47,304 --> 00:08:50,864 Speaker 2: a vodka book, which is a book that you read. 194 00:08:50,904 --> 00:08:53,464 Speaker 2: So usually it would be more like a thriller or 195 00:08:53,784 --> 00:08:55,824 Speaker 2: you know, like a crime or something like that, something 196 00:08:55,864 --> 00:08:58,064 Speaker 2: like that you just really want to devour in one 197 00:08:58,144 --> 00:09:00,104 Speaker 2: go and you almost feel like you have a hangover 198 00:09:00,144 --> 00:09:01,664 Speaker 2: the next day because you've read it so quickly and 199 00:09:01,704 --> 00:09:04,104 Speaker 2: it was so intense and so emotional, and you probably 200 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:06,544 Speaker 2: wouldn't pick it up every night, otherwise you would just 201 00:09:06,704 --> 00:09:09,344 Speaker 2: have too much of a hangover. So vodka's like quick, 202 00:09:09,424 --> 00:09:13,264 Speaker 2: fast hit. A chocolate book is comforting, cozy. 203 00:09:13,424 --> 00:09:15,624 Speaker 3: It's usually yeah, usually. 204 00:09:15,464 --> 00:09:18,424 Speaker 2: Romance, just something like a sweet, comforting little hit. And 205 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:21,544 Speaker 2: then a vegetable book is something that you know should 206 00:09:21,544 --> 00:09:23,264 Speaker 2: make up the majority of your book diet, but you 207 00:09:23,304 --> 00:09:25,304 Speaker 2: don't always want to reach for it, but it's always 208 00:09:25,344 --> 00:09:28,104 Speaker 2: feels very good and satisfying where you devour it. Yeah, 209 00:09:28,144 --> 00:09:28,664 Speaker 2: like a really. 210 00:09:28,584 --> 00:09:29,264 Speaker 3: Well bitten book. 211 00:09:29,304 --> 00:09:32,024 Speaker 2: That's usually like the way that most critically acclaimed books are, 212 00:09:32,184 --> 00:09:33,944 Speaker 2: and you need to make sure you have those factored 213 00:09:33,984 --> 00:09:36,064 Speaker 2: in and they're good, Like you know, vegetables can be delicious. 214 00:09:36,104 --> 00:09:38,184 Speaker 2: Vegetable books commit delicious. It's good, fear, but they just 215 00:09:38,264 --> 00:09:39,544 Speaker 2: sometimes not what you're craving. 216 00:09:39,904 --> 00:09:43,584 Speaker 3: So okay, So I got my system wrong because I 217 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:46,464 Speaker 3: called all of mine vodkas because I just read really fast. 218 00:09:46,904 --> 00:09:48,624 Speaker 3: It was like I read for me. It's not the 219 00:09:48,744 --> 00:09:50,704 Speaker 3: only factor, but it's a good book. Is like I 220 00:09:50,744 --> 00:09:52,864 Speaker 3: read it in two days. Yeah, And I was like, oh, 221 00:09:52,864 --> 00:09:54,864 Speaker 3: this is you can block a chocolate in two days. 222 00:09:54,904 --> 00:09:57,104 Speaker 3: That's true, So I'm changing mine. I think both of 223 00:09:57,144 --> 00:10:00,904 Speaker 3: my recommendations for this one would be chocolate. Now. So 224 00:10:01,064 --> 00:10:04,264 Speaker 3: back to Emily Henry. So she loves a romantic trope 225 00:10:04,424 --> 00:10:08,184 Speaker 3: like enemy to Lovers, Friends to Lovers, roommates of lovers, rekindling. 226 00:10:08,264 --> 00:10:11,384 Speaker 3: She loves lovers. Basically it's always a man and a 227 00:10:11,384 --> 00:10:13,664 Speaker 3: woman and they fall in love. So a few of 228 00:10:13,704 --> 00:10:15,544 Speaker 3: the books have also made it to the New York 229 00:10:15,584 --> 00:10:18,744 Speaker 3: Times Bestsellers People Will Meet on Vacation Book, Lovers and 230 00:10:18,784 --> 00:10:22,184 Speaker 3: Happy Place also really good book. Some of them are 231 00:10:22,184 --> 00:10:24,784 Speaker 3: also being adapted into TV shows and movies. But the 232 00:10:24,864 --> 00:10:27,464 Speaker 3: latest release I want to talk about is Funny Story 233 00:10:27,544 --> 00:10:29,664 Speaker 3: that came out this year, and I read all of 234 00:10:29,664 --> 00:10:32,504 Speaker 3: her books and this one is hands down my favorite. 235 00:10:32,984 --> 00:10:36,984 Speaker 3: So it follows Daphanie and Miles who are in relationships 236 00:10:37,064 --> 00:10:41,184 Speaker 3: and the people they're in relationships with are best friends. 237 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:43,224 Speaker 3: So Daphanie and Miles kind of know each other by 238 00:10:43,264 --> 00:10:47,704 Speaker 3: proxy because of their pros and I think it like 239 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:51,584 Speaker 3: follows that like ohn moment when you see a man 240 00:10:51,624 --> 00:10:55,464 Speaker 3: and a woman becoming best friends. Yeah, so yeah, This 241 00:10:55,544 --> 00:10:57,384 Speaker 3: happens right in the beginning of the book, so it's 242 00:10:57,384 --> 00:11:01,104 Speaker 3: no spoilers, But their partners realize that they're more than 243 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:03,144 Speaker 3: best friends, they're actually in love with each other, so 244 00:11:03,184 --> 00:11:05,864 Speaker 3: they dump Daphnie and Miles to be with each other. 245 00:11:06,224 --> 00:11:08,864 Speaker 3: Daphanie has nowhere to go, so she moves in with Miles, 246 00:11:09,184 --> 00:11:12,464 Speaker 3: and they're both kind of like the strangers who their 247 00:11:12,864 --> 00:11:14,704 Speaker 3: only thing they share in common is that they're boat 248 00:11:14,704 --> 00:11:17,504 Speaker 3: going to tragic High. Yeah, at the same time, you 249 00:11:17,504 --> 00:11:20,144 Speaker 3: can probably guess what happens next, But it has done 250 00:11:20,384 --> 00:11:24,664 Speaker 3: so so well. It is so funny, and I think 251 00:11:24,824 --> 00:11:28,304 Speaker 3: it doesn't overdo the whole like, of course they're gonna 252 00:11:28,304 --> 00:11:31,264 Speaker 3: fall in love. Yeah, but it's done very cleverly, and 253 00:11:31,584 --> 00:11:33,264 Speaker 3: oh my god, I just loved it so much. 254 00:11:33,264 --> 00:11:35,184 Speaker 2: But that's the magic of a good rom com. Like 255 00:11:35,224 --> 00:11:37,384 Speaker 2: I do hate when people use kind of like throw 256 00:11:37,384 --> 00:11:39,704 Speaker 2: away terms like oh, it's just like chick lit or 257 00:11:39,744 --> 00:11:42,344 Speaker 2: it's like rubbish or all that sort of stuff, because it's. 258 00:11:42,264 --> 00:11:43,024 Speaker 3: The best genre. 259 00:11:43,184 --> 00:11:46,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, also very hard to get right, and also romance 260 00:11:46,264 --> 00:11:48,904 Speaker 2: very hard to get right, because the magic ingredient of 261 00:11:49,184 --> 00:11:52,824 Speaker 2: rom coms, both movies, TV shows and books is that, yes, 262 00:11:52,944 --> 00:11:55,544 Speaker 2: you know, they're going to get together, which means you 263 00:11:55,704 --> 00:11:58,344 Speaker 2: kind of spoil the ending for yourself. So then you're writing, 264 00:11:58,344 --> 00:12:00,584 Speaker 2: and your storytelling has to be so good that you 265 00:12:00,624 --> 00:12:03,744 Speaker 2: have to make the audience invested in what they already 266 00:12:03,784 --> 00:12:04,984 Speaker 2: know is gonna happen. So you have to make the 267 00:12:05,064 --> 00:12:07,064 Speaker 2: chemistry so good. You have to make their story so good. 268 00:12:07,264 --> 00:12:10,744 Speaker 2: And romance and chemistry are very hard to write, very 269 00:12:10,744 --> 00:12:12,344 Speaker 2: hard to get people like you can't just put two 270 00:12:12,424 --> 00:12:15,224 Speaker 2: characters together. You have to like there's a special ingredient 271 00:12:15,264 --> 00:12:17,864 Speaker 2: at work there. So I think romance writers in particular, 272 00:12:18,144 --> 00:12:20,784 Speaker 2: it's a very hard genre to really get right. And 273 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:23,144 Speaker 2: so when you do it, you have chemistry leaping off 274 00:12:23,184 --> 00:12:24,424 Speaker 2: the page like this this book. 275 00:12:24,424 --> 00:12:25,344 Speaker 3: I love this book as well. 276 00:12:25,384 --> 00:12:27,264 Speaker 2: When you have chemistry kind of leaping off the page 277 00:12:27,344 --> 00:12:30,024 Speaker 2: and you have everyone invested in the ending that they 278 00:12:30,024 --> 00:12:32,584 Speaker 2: know is going to happen, that is a triumph of writing. 279 00:12:32,904 --> 00:12:35,504 Speaker 3: Sorry what anyone says, No, that's actually such a good 280 00:12:35,544 --> 00:12:38,864 Speaker 3: point because that's kind of like with Emily Henry's books. 281 00:12:38,944 --> 00:12:41,264 Speaker 3: I've used to be that kind of person. They used 282 00:12:41,264 --> 00:12:43,184 Speaker 3: to be like, oh, I know what's going to happen 283 00:12:43,224 --> 00:12:44,864 Speaker 3: in the end, Like why would I waste my time, 284 00:12:45,024 --> 00:12:46,584 Speaker 3: and then I think it was Happy Place that I 285 00:12:46,624 --> 00:12:49,064 Speaker 3: read that. I was like, oh, wait, she's onto something here. 286 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:50,864 Speaker 2: Yeah, the story is just so good, it's okay if 287 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:51,824 Speaker 2: I kind of know the ending. 288 00:12:51,944 --> 00:12:54,024 Speaker 3: And yeah, she's just such a brilliant author, Like it's 289 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:55,944 Speaker 3: one of those books that no matter what she writes, 290 00:12:55,984 --> 00:13:00,304 Speaker 3: I'll always read it. So my next recommendation is called 291 00:13:00,544 --> 00:13:04,064 Speaker 3: Margo's Got Money Troubles by Rufi Thorpe. Have you read this? 292 00:13:05,264 --> 00:13:08,024 Speaker 2: No, I haven't read this because this is so embarrassing. 293 00:13:08,304 --> 00:13:10,584 Speaker 2: I got sent a copy of this book and I 294 00:13:10,624 --> 00:13:12,544 Speaker 2: wanted to read it really badly, so I put it 295 00:13:12,584 --> 00:13:14,464 Speaker 2: at the top of my big bookcase. I have all 296 00:13:14,464 --> 00:13:17,544 Speaker 2: these big bookcases in my apartment with plants all over them, 297 00:13:17,584 --> 00:13:20,424 Speaker 2: you know, for the Instagram aesthetic. And then I went 298 00:13:20,464 --> 00:13:23,624 Speaker 2: to water the plant above it, not realizing that it 299 00:13:23,664 --> 00:13:26,584 Speaker 2: had an open bottom, and so my Margo book was 300 00:13:26,624 --> 00:13:28,904 Speaker 2: absolutely soaked and I put on my balcony. 301 00:13:28,944 --> 00:13:31,184 Speaker 3: But it is unreadable. So that margat I don't have 302 00:13:31,304 --> 00:13:32,184 Speaker 3: more than money travels. 303 00:13:32,464 --> 00:13:34,024 Speaker 2: I don't want to say send me another book to 304 00:13:34,024 --> 00:13:35,704 Speaker 2: that publisher. Thank you very much for sending it. I'm 305 00:13:35,704 --> 00:13:37,504 Speaker 2: go to go buy a copy. Yeah, And I'm going 306 00:13:37,584 --> 00:13:38,264 Speaker 2: to read this book. 307 00:13:38,304 --> 00:13:41,024 Speaker 3: But anyway, great book. It also has a beautiful cover, 308 00:13:41,184 --> 00:13:42,224 Speaker 3: so definitely. 309 00:13:41,904 --> 00:13:43,624 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, my cover's obviously ruined. 310 00:13:44,264 --> 00:13:47,584 Speaker 3: Margaret's got a lot of problems. So I've had so 311 00:13:47,784 --> 00:13:51,384 Speaker 3: many people recommend this book to me, but tragically, it 312 00:13:51,424 --> 00:13:53,504 Speaker 3: was only when I saw it in the Times twenty 313 00:13:53,504 --> 00:13:56,104 Speaker 3: twenty four Top hundred reads. So I actually picked it up, 314 00:13:56,704 --> 00:13:58,264 Speaker 3: and I'm so glad I did because I read it 315 00:13:58,304 --> 00:14:01,464 Speaker 3: in two days. It is a super quick read, and 316 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:03,664 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's because the book is quick 317 00:14:03,704 --> 00:14:05,264 Speaker 3: in general. I've read it on my kindle, so it's 318 00:14:05,264 --> 00:14:05,824 Speaker 3: hard to gauge. 319 00:14:05,824 --> 00:14:07,144 Speaker 2: I can't believe you can read it on a kindle. 320 00:14:07,144 --> 00:14:08,824 Speaker 3: That's why it's my favorite thing in the whole world. 321 00:14:08,824 --> 00:14:10,024 Speaker 3: I keep it in my bag all the time. I 322 00:14:10,064 --> 00:14:12,384 Speaker 3: read it while I'm walking to work. It's not quite dangerous, 323 00:14:12,664 --> 00:14:16,584 Speaker 3: not very dangerous, but it's a super quick read. And 324 00:14:16,664 --> 00:14:19,584 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's because the book is smaller, 325 00:14:19,744 --> 00:14:24,304 Speaker 3: but it's just super addictive and really really funny. Stick 326 00:14:24,304 --> 00:14:26,864 Speaker 3: with me while I read out like this. Okay, So 327 00:14:27,184 --> 00:14:31,024 Speaker 3: it's about her girl named Margo, who unexpectedly falls pregnant 328 00:14:31,064 --> 00:14:33,704 Speaker 3: at nineteen years old. After having an affair with her 329 00:14:33,744 --> 00:14:37,104 Speaker 3: married college professor. This all happens at the beginning, so 330 00:14:38,024 --> 00:14:41,184 Speaker 3: it's not a spoiler. So she decides to keep the baby. 331 00:14:41,224 --> 00:14:44,544 Speaker 3: She names him Bodie, and she kind of raises him 332 00:14:44,664 --> 00:14:47,184 Speaker 3: with no other help, Like her mom didn't want her 333 00:14:47,184 --> 00:14:49,384 Speaker 3: to keep the baby. College professor definitely didn't want her 334 00:14:49,384 --> 00:14:50,744 Speaker 3: to keep the baby. So she's just kind of doing 335 00:14:50,744 --> 00:14:53,384 Speaker 3: this on her own. As you can probably tell, being 336 00:14:53,384 --> 00:14:56,224 Speaker 3: a nineteen year old girl who's like not studying anymore 337 00:14:56,224 --> 00:14:58,264 Speaker 3: because she had to give birth, plus trying to manage 338 00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:01,744 Speaker 3: your job. It doesn't go well for her. So around 339 00:15:01,744 --> 00:15:04,984 Speaker 3: this time, her estranged dad, who is a retired ex 340 00:15:05,144 --> 00:15:09,144 Speaker 3: pro wrestling manager, is her life. He re enters her life. 341 00:15:09,184 --> 00:15:12,504 Speaker 3: She loves her dad, and because of his past job 342 00:15:12,584 --> 00:15:14,744 Speaker 3: he's now retired, he needs like kind of a hobby. 343 00:15:15,304 --> 00:15:19,064 Speaker 3: They decide to work on a business together and it 344 00:15:19,144 --> 00:15:24,184 Speaker 3: is on Only Fans. Wow, So twist, plot twist. It 345 00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:27,784 Speaker 3: is so funny, Like I don't know what kind of 346 00:15:27,824 --> 00:15:30,224 Speaker 3: research rufy Thorpe had to go into, but you find 347 00:15:30,224 --> 00:15:32,384 Speaker 3: out like the ins and out of what's it like 348 00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:34,424 Speaker 3: to make it on Only Fans. It's someone who doesn't 349 00:15:34,464 --> 00:15:36,704 Speaker 3: really want to do only fans but realize that she 350 00:15:36,744 --> 00:15:39,184 Speaker 3: can make a lot of money on OnlyFans. I think 351 00:15:39,184 --> 00:15:40,904 Speaker 3: it's one of those it answers, that question that I 352 00:15:40,904 --> 00:15:43,664 Speaker 3: feel like every girl has had, where like she's just 353 00:15:43,704 --> 00:15:45,704 Speaker 3: like so tired, she's so depleted, and she's like, what 354 00:15:45,744 --> 00:15:48,144 Speaker 3: if I just done only fans? I mean, we've all thought, 355 00:15:48,184 --> 00:15:49,344 Speaker 3: we all thought it. 356 00:15:49,504 --> 00:15:52,184 Speaker 2: I look, look, I'm literally did it. She did it. 357 00:15:52,304 --> 00:15:53,944 Speaker 2: She forgured how to do it. Like I said, I 358 00:15:53,944 --> 00:15:56,384 Speaker 2: would sell feet picks. I've got no moral issue without, 359 00:15:56,384 --> 00:15:57,664 Speaker 2: but I just don't know how to do it. 360 00:15:57,824 --> 00:16:01,384 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we need we need strange dads to come. 361 00:16:02,664 --> 00:16:04,664 Speaker 2: I don't even joke about that. I am as strange 362 00:16:04,664 --> 00:16:06,904 Speaker 2: for my dad. So this is actually feeling very close 363 00:16:06,944 --> 00:16:07,304 Speaker 2: to her. 364 00:16:07,344 --> 00:16:09,744 Speaker 3: You're gonna love this book. It's also been announced that 365 00:16:09,784 --> 00:16:13,144 Speaker 3: it's been adapted to a series on Apple TV. El 366 00:16:13,264 --> 00:16:14,384 Speaker 3: Fanning playing Margo. 367 00:16:14,664 --> 00:16:18,864 Speaker 2: That's beautiful casting and her dad, Nick Offerman so good. 368 00:16:19,184 --> 00:16:20,704 Speaker 2: That is the best casting. 369 00:16:20,784 --> 00:16:23,144 Speaker 3: So I got Nicole Kidman and Michelle Pfeifer also going 370 00:16:23,184 --> 00:16:23,504 Speaker 3: to be in it. 371 00:16:23,584 --> 00:16:26,944 Speaker 2: Of course, Nicole Nicle Kimman's like, wait, a best selling 372 00:16:26,944 --> 00:16:27,784 Speaker 2: book's been adapted. 373 00:16:27,824 --> 00:16:30,264 Speaker 3: Put me in pot me in I'm there. Oh my god, 374 00:16:30,304 --> 00:16:32,384 Speaker 3: I cannot wait for the series because as I was 375 00:16:32,384 --> 00:16:35,704 Speaker 3: reading the book, like, obviously you picture the people in 376 00:16:35,744 --> 00:16:38,464 Speaker 3: your head, but this cast just made it and now 377 00:16:38,504 --> 00:16:42,064 Speaker 3: I'm like, so good. 378 00:16:41,824 --> 00:16:45,664 Speaker 2: All right. I really stressed about which books to talk about, 379 00:16:45,944 --> 00:16:47,904 Speaker 2: and a few of the ones I really did like 380 00:16:47,944 --> 00:16:49,744 Speaker 2: this year, I feel, are the ones that everyone has 381 00:16:49,784 --> 00:16:51,304 Speaker 2: been you know, the new Sally Routing and that sort 382 00:16:51,304 --> 00:16:53,504 Speaker 2: of stuff. Everyone's been talking about. Everyone knows about them. 383 00:16:53,824 --> 00:16:56,224 Speaker 2: So I wanted to sort of maybe these books are 384 00:16:56,304 --> 00:16:59,704 Speaker 2: both critically acclaimed, but just maybe give some recommendations and 385 00:16:59,744 --> 00:17:00,824 Speaker 2: maybe people hadn't read. 386 00:17:01,064 --> 00:17:02,824 Speaker 3: Oh that's weird. That's what we're going for. 387 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:04,984 Speaker 2: So the first book I'm going to recommend as one 388 00:17:04,984 --> 00:17:06,704 Speaker 2: that I've read this year came out this year and 389 00:17:06,704 --> 00:17:09,184 Speaker 2: I really loved it is the work by Breeley. Have 390 00:17:09,224 --> 00:17:09,784 Speaker 2: you read that. 391 00:17:09,704 --> 00:17:10,464 Speaker 3: I've read it? 392 00:17:10,664 --> 00:17:11,464 Speaker 2: Did you love it? 393 00:17:11,624 --> 00:17:13,104 Speaker 3: I loved it. It's quite sexy. 394 00:17:13,624 --> 00:17:15,344 Speaker 2: It was about sexy. This is I mean, it was 395 00:17:15,344 --> 00:17:17,104 Speaker 2: like it was actually my favorite kind of book in 396 00:17:17,184 --> 00:17:18,784 Speaker 2: terms of that because it was a bit of a 397 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:21,344 Speaker 2: comfort read in terms of like the setting and the characters, 398 00:17:21,464 --> 00:17:24,744 Speaker 2: but also quite spicy. It's a vodka chocolate for me, 399 00:17:24,944 --> 00:17:27,904 Speaker 2: and Vodka Chocolate is actually my favorite book to Yeah, 400 00:17:27,944 --> 00:17:28,944 Speaker 2: well just in terms. 401 00:17:28,704 --> 00:17:30,864 Speaker 3: Of like hybrid with the system, I guess. 402 00:17:30,704 --> 00:17:32,304 Speaker 2: You've got to work out to my You've got to 403 00:17:32,344 --> 00:17:36,544 Speaker 2: work out to my level. So Breeley, I've read her 404 00:17:36,584 --> 00:17:39,264 Speaker 2: other books Eggs, Shells, Skull, Beauty and also Who Gets 405 00:17:39,264 --> 00:17:41,464 Speaker 2: to Be Smart, which are non fiction books which I 406 00:17:41,504 --> 00:17:43,584 Speaker 2: love and are very much also in the vegetable category, 407 00:17:43,664 --> 00:17:47,024 Speaker 2: and so I was interested to read her first fiction book, 408 00:17:47,064 --> 00:17:49,784 Speaker 2: which is The Work, and I think, yeah, I also 409 00:17:49,824 --> 00:17:51,904 Speaker 2: read this in like two days, just kind of like 410 00:17:51,984 --> 00:17:54,784 Speaker 2: devoured it. So its slit between New York and Sydney. 411 00:17:54,784 --> 00:17:57,304 Speaker 2: Obviously I was already in because that's just a calling 412 00:17:57,344 --> 00:18:00,064 Speaker 2: card to basic bitch readers who were just like the 413 00:18:00,104 --> 00:18:02,704 Speaker 2: Big Sea Lights. So there's two different storylines here. Focuses 414 00:18:02,744 --> 00:18:05,224 Speaker 2: on Lally, who was a very career focused thirty something 415 00:18:05,304 --> 00:18:08,544 Speaker 2: American and she is the owner of a contemporary gallery 416 00:18:08,544 --> 00:18:11,304 Speaker 2: in Manhattan. And then you've also got Patrick, who's an 417 00:18:11,344 --> 00:18:14,744 Speaker 2: Australian guy and he's like late twenties from regional Queensland, 418 00:18:14,784 --> 00:18:17,384 Speaker 2: like very topical for me obviously, who is now working 419 00:18:17,464 --> 00:18:22,264 Speaker 2: as a junior appraiser. This very prestigious antiquities company in Sydney, 420 00:18:22,824 --> 00:18:27,064 Speaker 2: and the tension comes from Lally and Patrick's relationship, from 421 00:18:27,104 --> 00:18:29,504 Speaker 2: their meet cute. Don't want to spoil too much, and 422 00:18:29,544 --> 00:18:35,104 Speaker 2: also they're sexy. You're already smiling sexy scenes. 423 00:18:35,944 --> 00:18:37,624 Speaker 3: I want to reread this book right now. 424 00:18:37,704 --> 00:18:39,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a reread. Can I just say that's 425 00:18:39,824 --> 00:18:42,304 Speaker 2: why I only probably read during the year, maybe ten 426 00:18:42,344 --> 00:18:44,384 Speaker 2: new books, ten to eleven new books, and then ten 427 00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:47,384 Speaker 2: over the summer, because I also reread books all the 428 00:18:47,384 --> 00:18:49,824 Speaker 2: time as well. But that's the importance of books, like 429 00:18:49,864 --> 00:18:51,384 Speaker 2: you should I think a good book you should be 430 00:18:51,384 --> 00:18:53,384 Speaker 2: able to read last three times. I a correct my 431 00:18:53,424 --> 00:18:54,344 Speaker 2: controversial opinion. 432 00:18:54,344 --> 00:18:56,264 Speaker 3: I would say that if you don't know much about art, 433 00:18:56,304 --> 00:18:59,024 Speaker 3: you might be googling something throughout read. Well, that's the thing. 434 00:18:59,064 --> 00:19:00,384 Speaker 2: I thought it was very kind of And I was 435 00:19:00,424 --> 00:19:02,504 Speaker 2: reading some interviews with Breeley where she said that she 436 00:19:02,704 --> 00:19:04,584 Speaker 2: did spend a lot She spent like weeks in New 437 00:19:04,664 --> 00:19:07,624 Speaker 2: York as she was researching. She's spent years writing this book, 438 00:19:07,824 --> 00:19:09,624 Speaker 2: but she also spent a lot of time going around 439 00:19:09,624 --> 00:19:11,584 Speaker 2: to art gallery and sort of getting the feel for 440 00:19:11,624 --> 00:19:13,344 Speaker 2: like the language and the people who are there and 441 00:19:13,344 --> 00:19:14,984 Speaker 2: all that sort of thing so that you can really 442 00:19:14,984 --> 00:19:17,424 Speaker 2: feel like it feels like a very well realized world. 443 00:19:17,944 --> 00:19:21,624 Speaker 2: So Lally and Patrick both have I guess work disasters, 444 00:19:21,664 --> 00:19:24,624 Speaker 2: problems that arise, and that really kind of feeds into 445 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:27,224 Speaker 2: the book. But it's a love story, but it's also 446 00:19:27,384 --> 00:19:29,824 Speaker 2: very like, I think, a really interesting look at the 447 00:19:29,864 --> 00:19:31,904 Speaker 2: social issues around people who were this age and that 448 00:19:31,984 --> 00:19:35,104 Speaker 2: pool between like career and relationship. 449 00:19:34,384 --> 00:19:35,704 Speaker 3: And when you're both going through it. 450 00:19:35,864 --> 00:19:38,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're both going through these huge career moments 451 00:19:38,464 --> 00:19:40,224 Speaker 2: and like they're fuel by what people expect of you 452 00:19:40,264 --> 00:19:42,304 Speaker 2: and the mistakes are made, but you also have this 453 00:19:42,344 --> 00:19:44,784 Speaker 2: sexy relationship between the two of them. So yeah, it's 454 00:19:44,984 --> 00:19:46,504 Speaker 2: if you haven't read it, put it on the top 455 00:19:46,544 --> 00:19:49,104 Speaker 2: of your to be read list for the holiday. Is 456 00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:52,024 Speaker 2: the work by Breeley just a great read. Chocolate What 457 00:19:52,184 --> 00:19:52,864 Speaker 2: could Chocolate? 458 00:19:53,424 --> 00:19:53,864 Speaker 3: Okay? 459 00:19:54,024 --> 00:19:56,264 Speaker 2: This book that came out this year. I had on 460 00:19:56,384 --> 00:19:58,704 Speaker 2: pre order as soon as it was announced because it 461 00:19:58,784 --> 00:20:02,824 Speaker 2: is written by one of my favorite writers, opinion, feature writers, 462 00:20:02,904 --> 00:20:06,224 Speaker 2: interviewers of all time, Taffy Brodessa Akner. 463 00:20:06,504 --> 00:20:08,544 Speaker 3: The only thing I hate about her is that she's 464 00:20:08,624 --> 00:20:11,304 Speaker 3: not more famous. Everyone needs to know this. 465 00:20:11,384 --> 00:20:15,064 Speaker 2: Name she is, even if people don't they read her work. 466 00:20:15,304 --> 00:20:18,224 Speaker 2: So Taffy is a features writer for the New York 467 00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:21,504 Speaker 2: Times magazine and she's based in New York and she 468 00:20:21,624 --> 00:20:25,704 Speaker 2: just writes these incredible opinion pieces. She writes sort of 469 00:20:25,744 --> 00:20:28,264 Speaker 2: recaps of things she sees. But she's also a really 470 00:20:28,344 --> 00:20:31,624 Speaker 2: well known celebrity interviewer, and I think she has this 471 00:20:31,744 --> 00:20:34,704 Speaker 2: real knack for both putting herself in the story just 472 00:20:34,864 --> 00:20:38,104 Speaker 2: enough that she captures, you know, the way celebrities behaving 473 00:20:38,144 --> 00:20:40,304 Speaker 2: or what they're doing, but also gets really interesting quotes 474 00:20:40,344 --> 00:20:42,704 Speaker 2: from them. So I feel like, if you not across 475 00:20:42,744 --> 00:20:44,304 Speaker 2: her work, you should just type her name and her 476 00:20:44,424 --> 00:20:46,704 Speaker 2: articles into the search bar and just read everything that 477 00:20:46,744 --> 00:20:49,144 Speaker 2: comes up. But the one you should read at the 478 00:20:49,184 --> 00:20:52,424 Speaker 2: top if you want to start your Toffy education is 479 00:20:52,464 --> 00:20:54,944 Speaker 2: the interview that she did with Bradley Cooper where he 480 00:20:55,024 --> 00:20:57,784 Speaker 2: is refusing to be interviewed and she writes a recap 481 00:20:57,784 --> 00:20:59,584 Speaker 2: of it, and it is, what do you mean, one 482 00:20:59,664 --> 00:21:02,504 Speaker 2: of the greatest pieces of journalism I have ever read. 483 00:21:02,704 --> 00:21:06,584 Speaker 2: It is so entertaining, it is so wild. Yes, yes 484 00:21:06,624 --> 00:21:08,104 Speaker 2: we will, that is my It's one of those ones 485 00:21:08,104 --> 00:21:09,344 Speaker 2: I go back and re reading because I'm like, I 486 00:21:09,344 --> 00:21:11,304 Speaker 2: just want that feeling of reading again for the first time. 487 00:21:11,344 --> 00:21:12,384 Speaker 3: She's so clever. 488 00:21:12,864 --> 00:21:15,384 Speaker 2: Her first book, called Flashman Is in Trouble, is also 489 00:21:15,424 --> 00:21:18,184 Speaker 2: a really excellent read. Recently, Just in the last year 490 00:21:18,224 --> 00:21:20,504 Speaker 2: also got turned into a TV series that was also 491 00:21:20,544 --> 00:21:23,584 Speaker 2: critically acclaimed by They read the book first and then 492 00:21:23,784 --> 00:21:26,304 Speaker 2: watch the TV series, which has Adam Brody in it 493 00:21:27,384 --> 00:21:30,384 Speaker 2: before he had his whole resurgence on Netflix with Kristen belt. 494 00:21:30,784 --> 00:21:30,984 Speaker 1: So. 495 00:21:31,184 --> 00:21:33,384 Speaker 2: Her new book that came out this year is called 496 00:21:33,424 --> 00:21:36,184 Speaker 2: Long Island Compromise, and I would say, I'm. 497 00:21:36,064 --> 00:21:38,664 Speaker 3: So jealous because I wanted to read this before we 498 00:21:38,864 --> 00:21:39,504 Speaker 3: talked about it. 499 00:21:39,664 --> 00:21:42,104 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not going to do any spoilers. I would 500 00:21:42,184 --> 00:21:45,984 Speaker 2: say it's maybe a vegetable book, but not in a way. 501 00:21:46,024 --> 00:21:48,184 Speaker 2: I don't want people to think vegetabooks about vegetable books 502 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:49,944 Speaker 2: are great. Some of my greatest books of all time 503 00:21:49,984 --> 00:21:52,344 Speaker 2: are vegetable books. They're just ones that you really sit 504 00:21:52,384 --> 00:21:55,544 Speaker 2: with and think about and they're entertaining, but they also, 505 00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:58,704 Speaker 2: I guess, are just Yeah, they're not these light, kind 506 00:21:58,744 --> 00:22:01,624 Speaker 2: of fluffy reads. So Long Island Compromise starts in nineteen 507 00:22:01,664 --> 00:22:05,144 Speaker 2: eighty and it's centered on this wealthy businessman called Carl Fletcher. 508 00:22:05,184 --> 00:22:07,704 Speaker 2: Who was kidnapped from his driveway. So all of a sudden, 509 00:22:07,704 --> 00:22:11,144 Speaker 2: we're getting in there with some action, brutalized and for ransom, 510 00:22:11,264 --> 00:22:14,104 Speaker 2: and later on he's delivered to his kids and his 511 00:22:14,184 --> 00:22:17,824 Speaker 2: wife about a week later, and the family like really 512 00:22:17,864 --> 00:22:20,864 Speaker 2: tries to move on with their life, but obviously there's 513 00:22:20,864 --> 00:22:23,184 Speaker 2: a lot of trauma there. And then the book kind 514 00:22:23,184 --> 00:22:26,424 Speaker 2: of continues on like over forty years later and you 515 00:22:26,464 --> 00:22:28,744 Speaker 2: sort of see what Karl has gone through in that 516 00:22:28,864 --> 00:22:31,664 Speaker 2: time since his kidnapping, what his wife Ruth has gone through. 517 00:22:31,904 --> 00:22:34,464 Speaker 2: It also chronicles the different stories of their kids and 518 00:22:34,504 --> 00:22:37,464 Speaker 2: their lives and how this moment has kind of shaped 519 00:22:37,464 --> 00:22:39,344 Speaker 2: them all in a way. So you've got Nathan, who's 520 00:22:39,344 --> 00:22:41,304 Speaker 2: like one of their sons, who's got this chronic fear 521 00:22:41,864 --> 00:22:44,184 Speaker 2: that's kind of stopping him from advancing in his career. 522 00:22:44,264 --> 00:22:47,784 Speaker 2: They've got Beamer, who's a Hollywood screenwriter and is just 523 00:22:47,784 --> 00:22:50,744 Speaker 2: trying to like numb the trauma from this event and 524 00:22:50,824 --> 00:22:53,824 Speaker 2: now as an adult through like stuffs and'ce abuse and 525 00:22:53,944 --> 00:22:56,664 Speaker 2: women and all this kind of stuff. And then their 526 00:22:56,744 --> 00:22:59,184 Speaker 2: daughter Jenny is really trying to prove that she hasn't 527 00:22:59,184 --> 00:23:02,824 Speaker 2: been pulled down by all these other issues and pain 528 00:23:02,904 --> 00:23:05,584 Speaker 2: and trauma that has kind of shaped her family and 529 00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:08,384 Speaker 2: is kind of trying to go on her own past. 530 00:23:08,464 --> 00:23:10,984 Speaker 2: So with this really interesting look at this family and 531 00:23:11,064 --> 00:23:13,344 Speaker 2: all their different stories and their history and the different 532 00:23:13,384 --> 00:23:15,344 Speaker 2: layers between it and all of the characters, I just 533 00:23:15,384 --> 00:23:17,264 Speaker 2: thought like as I was reading, I was like, each 534 00:23:17,304 --> 00:23:19,664 Speaker 2: of these characters, I could just have my book about them, 535 00:23:19,904 --> 00:23:22,424 Speaker 2: Like they're all so well written and so well realized, 536 00:23:22,424 --> 00:23:24,224 Speaker 2: and you're kind of really wanting to like be in 537 00:23:24,264 --> 00:23:26,664 Speaker 2: their world so much, and it just ye, it's just 538 00:23:26,704 --> 00:23:30,104 Speaker 2: such a well written book. It's such a hay off 539 00:23:30,304 --> 00:23:32,704 Speaker 2: for there's not any like big twists and turns. I 540 00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:34,704 Speaker 2: mean there are some obviously with the dynamics and things 541 00:23:34,744 --> 00:23:36,504 Speaker 2: that people reveal and that sort of thing, but it's 542 00:23:36,544 --> 00:23:37,944 Speaker 2: just one of those ones where you just feel like 543 00:23:37,944 --> 00:23:40,704 Speaker 2: it's such a fully realized world and it's so well 544 00:23:40,744 --> 00:23:43,064 Speaker 2: done and just yeah, such a satisfying read. Like I 545 00:23:43,064 --> 00:23:44,784 Speaker 2: felt so good after reading it because I was like 546 00:23:44,944 --> 00:23:46,904 Speaker 2: that was so good for my mind and my life 547 00:23:46,944 --> 00:23:49,504 Speaker 2: and and everything and just just and it made me 548 00:23:49,544 --> 00:23:51,944 Speaker 2: also like go and like look up things and like 549 00:23:51,984 --> 00:23:54,144 Speaker 2: ideas and like things that were talking about in there, 550 00:23:54,184 --> 00:23:56,504 Speaker 2: just because it's like the characters are also so educated 551 00:23:56,544 --> 00:23:58,544 Speaker 2: and different. It's like that's what each character could be 552 00:23:58,584 --> 00:24:00,344 Speaker 2: the lead of the book because they're so well written. 553 00:24:00,704 --> 00:24:05,104 Speaker 2: So long Island Compromise by Taffy Brodessa Akna. And also 554 00:24:05,424 --> 00:24:08,224 Speaker 2: if this is your introduction to Taffy writing, that's so 555 00:24:08,344 --> 00:24:10,864 Speaker 2: exciting because there's so many things that they you go read. 556 00:24:10,944 --> 00:24:12,104 Speaker 3: I'm excited. Okay. 557 00:24:12,104 --> 00:24:13,864 Speaker 2: We wanted to leave you with like a little a 558 00:24:13,864 --> 00:24:16,064 Speaker 2: little dessert I'll call it. Because they're both chocolate. 559 00:24:15,824 --> 00:24:18,224 Speaker 3: Books, I want to make up some rules. 560 00:24:18,944 --> 00:24:21,384 Speaker 2: I mean you can, but you touch that. I've been 561 00:24:21,464 --> 00:24:23,984 Speaker 2: oaning this system for like a good fifteen years, just 562 00:24:24,024 --> 00:24:25,184 Speaker 2: so you the time. 563 00:24:26,784 --> 00:24:27,104 Speaker 3: Okay. 564 00:24:27,224 --> 00:24:29,824 Speaker 2: So these are two new chocolate books that are only 565 00:24:29,864 --> 00:24:32,424 Speaker 2: coming out in December of this year, so when you're 566 00:24:32,464 --> 00:24:34,304 Speaker 2: listening to this, they would already be on the shelves 567 00:24:34,304 --> 00:24:36,584 Speaker 2: that they knew. So if you've already read through your 568 00:24:36,584 --> 00:24:38,664 Speaker 2: holiday stack and you're about to head to the beach, 569 00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:40,704 Speaker 2: the pool, or just hopefully lie in front of a 570 00:24:40,704 --> 00:24:42,704 Speaker 2: fan in your own home with like a nice drink, 571 00:24:43,104 --> 00:24:45,864 Speaker 2: these are two books that you can pick up be together. 572 00:24:47,424 --> 00:24:50,104 Speaker 2: That'd be really cute of us me with my paperback. 573 00:24:50,144 --> 00:24:52,784 Speaker 2: You want to kindle So the first book I wanted 574 00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:55,184 Speaker 2: to recommend that's just come out. It's called Special Delivery 575 00:24:55,224 --> 00:24:59,264 Speaker 2: by Lisa Ronald. And the reason I wanted to read 576 00:24:59,304 --> 00:25:01,384 Speaker 2: this is like when the press pat came through from it. 577 00:25:01,664 --> 00:25:03,224 Speaker 3: The description on it. 578 00:25:03,224 --> 00:25:08,464 Speaker 2: Said and entrancing, laugh out loud, enemies to Lovers, romantic comedy. 579 00:25:08,584 --> 00:25:11,264 Speaker 2: If you like book Lovers by Mollie Henry and No 580 00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:14,704 Speaker 2: Hard Feelings by Genevieve Novak, you'll love Special Delivery. And 581 00:25:14,744 --> 00:25:16,784 Speaker 2: I was like, you had me Enemies to Lovers because 582 00:25:16,784 --> 00:25:19,224 Speaker 2: that is my favorite trope. And I don't care how 583 00:25:19,224 --> 00:25:20,784 Speaker 2: many times I read it. I will read it over 584 00:25:20,824 --> 00:25:24,344 Speaker 2: and over again. Nothing hits, nothing hits like that. So 585 00:25:24,504 --> 00:25:27,144 Speaker 2: it's about a woman named Poppy who moves back to 586 00:25:27,184 --> 00:25:30,544 Speaker 2: her hometown in country New South Wales, single, jobless and 587 00:25:30,584 --> 00:25:35,784 Speaker 2: pregnant again, moving back to small hometown you've got me there, 588 00:25:36,184 --> 00:25:38,584 Speaker 2: and with her best friend living hundreds of killermes away 589 00:25:38,584 --> 00:25:40,344 Speaker 2: and an ex refuses to beat up the phone, she 590 00:25:40,344 --> 00:25:42,344 Speaker 2: doesn't know who to turn to for help, and then 591 00:25:42,384 --> 00:25:44,704 Speaker 2: there's an introduction of a character called James. Apparently they 592 00:25:44,744 --> 00:25:48,224 Speaker 2: keep crossing paths in this small country town, and Poppy 593 00:25:48,704 --> 00:25:50,704 Speaker 2: then begins to think that she might have misjudged him. 594 00:25:50,744 --> 00:25:53,544 Speaker 2: So I think a romance is happening, small town romance, 595 00:25:53,744 --> 00:25:57,904 Speaker 2: enemies to lovers, New South Wales, South Wales, everything you 596 00:25:57,904 --> 00:26:00,104 Speaker 2: can ask for. So that is a new release called 597 00:26:00,144 --> 00:26:03,624 Speaker 2: Special Delivery by Lisa Ronald. The other book that I'm 598 00:26:03,704 --> 00:26:06,664 Speaker 2: very excited about is the new novel from Rachel John's. 599 00:26:06,744 --> 00:26:09,064 Speaker 2: Rachel John's is a really great writer. Read one of 600 00:26:09,104 --> 00:26:12,304 Speaker 2: her books previously and this one was called The Other Bridget, 601 00:26:12,384 --> 00:26:15,424 Speaker 2: so I was like, color me enticed. This one is 602 00:26:15,464 --> 00:26:19,304 Speaker 2: about a librarian called Bridget Jones, who is named after 603 00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:22,544 Speaker 2: the famous character and similarly unlucky in love. So this 604 00:26:22,584 --> 00:26:23,904 Speaker 2: woman's named after Bridge Jones. 605 00:26:23,944 --> 00:26:25,624 Speaker 3: I'm going to name my daughter Bridgete Jones. 606 00:26:25,384 --> 00:26:28,344 Speaker 2: Which you have to have the last name Jones. But 607 00:26:28,464 --> 00:26:31,144 Speaker 2: I feel like there's definitely something people would do nowadays. 608 00:26:31,544 --> 00:26:34,384 Speaker 2: And there's like a flirtation with a barista. She's got 609 00:26:34,384 --> 00:26:37,344 Speaker 2: a handsome new neighbor who she thinks has an endetta against. Yeah, 610 00:26:37,544 --> 00:26:41,024 Speaker 2: it's just kind of this exploration of modern love, online dating, 611 00:26:41,104 --> 00:26:45,064 Speaker 2: love scams, and loneliness. So The Bad Bridesmaid is the 612 00:26:45,144 --> 00:26:47,264 Speaker 2: other Rachel John's book that I've read, and that was 613 00:26:47,304 --> 00:26:50,864 Speaker 2: a real page Turner, so the other bridget I'm very 614 00:26:50,864 --> 00:26:51,544 Speaker 2: excited for. 615 00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:54,944 Speaker 3: Thank you so so much for listening to the Spill 616 00:26:55,024 --> 00:26:57,744 Speaker 3: today and across the last few weeks where we decided 617 00:26:57,744 --> 00:27:00,264 Speaker 3: to release episodes for you because we knew you didn't 618 00:27:00,304 --> 00:27:01,904 Speaker 3: want to take a break from us. Thank you so 619 00:27:02,024 --> 00:27:04,864 Speaker 3: much for listening. We have had a huge three weeks. 620 00:27:04,904 --> 00:27:07,704 Speaker 1: We did an episode on the biggest celebrity relationship and 621 00:27:07,744 --> 00:27:11,424 Speaker 1: breakups of twenty twenty four, the biggest select rebrands, and 622 00:27:11,584 --> 00:27:16,064 Speaker 1: my favorite, the biggest celebrity scandals like poor her bestie 623 00:27:16,184 --> 00:27:19,304 Speaker 1: nor Northwest and another bestie justin Timberlake. 624 00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:22,344 Speaker 3: We've given you about like I would say, one million 625 00:27:22,424 --> 00:27:25,864 Speaker 3: recommendations for movies and TV shows to watch over the summer. 626 00:27:26,184 --> 00:27:28,344 Speaker 3: So go back into your feed and listen to all 627 00:27:28,384 --> 00:27:30,704 Speaker 3: of those episodes because we will be back to normal 628 00:27:30,744 --> 00:27:33,744 Speaker 3: programming on Monday. We love you so much. Thank you 629 00:27:33,864 --> 00:27:37,464 Speaker 3: so so much for listening. Bye bye By