WEBVTT - Ash Wicks Gives Us TMI About His Vasectomy

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember rocking with Macy and my eyes were burning

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<v Speaker 1>because i was like so sick, and I'm looking over

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<v Speaker 1>at my wife and she's like, don't give her back,

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<v Speaker 1>don't give her back.

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<v Speaker 2>The Baby Bubble with Claire and Jesse Stevens. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>not a parenting advice podcast. Jess, I've noticed something about

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<v Speaker 2>my baby. I've noticed a few things about your baby,

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<v Speaker 2>but I choose not to say. Okay, Well, one skill

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<v Speaker 2>she hasn't mastered yet is acting appropriately given the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>So she can't read sort of the social environment, social cues. No,

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<v Speaker 2>she's inappropriate. Do you find that? She kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>you're sitting in a seat, then she'll start yelling, yelling,

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<v Speaker 2>or she can't. It's like at this dinner table, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk about politics, and she's like, who are we

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<v Speaker 2>voting for her? Yeah, She's like, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump? And it's like Matilda. So the other week

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<v Speaker 2>we were in hospital and it was actually a very

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<v Speaker 2>scary time and it's like, Babe, you're being the drama.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the drama. You're here for me. We're not in

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<v Speaker 2>hospital for me, babe, We're in hospital for you. You're

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<v Speaker 2>the fuss. Like I'm crying. The nurse is silent. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot happening. Things are objectively terrible. Yeah, Matilda's clapping. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's laughing. You came to visit us, and you correctly observed.

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<v Speaker 2>She thought it was a party.

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<v Speaker 1>She did.

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<v Speaker 2>She looked around the hospital waiting room and went, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys all here for me. I can dance. Hmm, not

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe. The nurses would come around to check her

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, guys, be honest, how great is everything? Yeah? No,

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like hmmm, no actually, And it's like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>newborn that has been screaming in the room next door

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<v Speaker 2>for a day and Matilda thinks it's music. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing a clap. No no, no, no no. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to have you know what an hospital demands, decorum, reverence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's a bit of reverence and I have never

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<v Speaker 2>seen her display any reverence. Jess. She wakes up at

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<v Speaker 2>three am and it's so quiet, and it's clearly a

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<v Speaker 2>time for sleeping, just socially vibe wise or just rest

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<v Speaker 2>just rested. She's giggling, she's chatting. I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>a dream, she can't read a room. Maybe she has

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<v Speaker 2>an imaginary friend. I think always that's my worst nightmare

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<v Speaker 2>as a child who has a ghost, Yeah, an imaginary friend.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, yeah, she died in the Second World War. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so creepy. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't told you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got an issue with Luna at the moment, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that every time I get into so, she's afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of barths. Yeah I told you about this. She's afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of bards. So we have to have a shower, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we get in the shower and then she gets menipple.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Luca came into my after him the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and was like, oh, you've got your cozy out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, yeah, I gotta wear a bikini

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<v Speaker 2>top in my shower now, and she gives me a

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<v Speaker 2>nipple cripple and I look at her and go to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear, I don't want to shower with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted my own shower. I've got to wash my hair,

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<v Speaker 2>shave my legs. I hate this because my body's not

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<v Speaker 2>under yeah, and I've got to wash you while not

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<v Speaker 2>dropping you while you're being a slippery lip. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>if she's not going and then she thinks it's really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day she discovered my belly button. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what it feels like to be poked really hard

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<v Speaker 2>in the belly button because it feels like it's got

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<v Speaker 2>some intestine or something. It's horrific. Read the cues. Our

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<v Speaker 2>guest this week is Ash Wicks. He is one half

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<v Speaker 2>of the Two Doting Dads podcast, where he and Maddie

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<v Speaker 2>Jy swap stories about well being dad's. Ash is also

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<v Speaker 2>known for his online skits showing the duality of parenting

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<v Speaker 2>mum and dads and, most recently, because being a parent

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<v Speaker 2>isn't enough of a full time job. Ash has just

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<v Speaker 2>released his first children's book with Maddy j Two Doting Dads,

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<v Speaker 2>The Quest for Free Time. That sounds so relatable, Ash,

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get a snapshot of your family? How old

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<v Speaker 2>are your kids?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a boy, Oscar who's five, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter, Macy, who's going to be three in November.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the age? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Bit over two, it's a little bit over to yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah two and done.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems to be a trend. You're known for your

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<v Speaker 2>viral videos on Instagram and TikTok. I see them a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a lot about parenting and the relationship between

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a husband and wife after kids. And one

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<v Speaker 2>that I saw recently was about an example of you've

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<v Speaker 2>dropped your kid off at daycare and your wife has

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<v Speaker 2>some questions. What are some differences between how you might

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<v Speaker 2>drop the kids off at daycare and how your wife

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<v Speaker 2>would drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm known for a very quick drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, dry by, kick him out pretty much pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Carstill moving, Try like I did the double drop off

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<v Speaker 1>this morning because my wife's sick and they go to

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<v Speaker 1>two different daycares. Oscar's a like a daycare, Maye's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a kindy. I don't even know really the difference,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know one of them they feed them and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one I've got to provide the food. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>one one they get fed, yeah, but the fees are ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>but the other one is free. Thankfully my kids are indigenous,

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<v Speaker 1>so they also get a little bit of benefit there.

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<v Speaker 1>And really yeah oh wow, yeah, so it's a community

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<v Speaker 1>one and they're like really great, Oh well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic, that's awesome. Do you ever accidentally pack a

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<v Speaker 2>meal for the kid that gets a meal so one's

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<v Speaker 2>getting two?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I do forget it and then I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go home. Yeah, but my drop off, I've mastered it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't look back. He's a good one. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>like the kindis in the daycares that my kid go

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<v Speaker 1>to are really good at like diffusing where it can

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong. So like Oscar, he's kindy. They've got like

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<v Speaker 1>a waving tree, so it's like you raise him and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a boy, so everything has to be fast. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest? Yea, And I'll race you to the tree

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm on the other side of the fences too late. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this morning we were pretty seamless, except that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't drop one off without taking the other one like

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<v Speaker 1>completely in and letting them have a walk around as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're in a rash sometimes that's usually when

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, I go, bit, now, we'll good this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And my wife is very different to that, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's she's going to go in make sure everything

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<v Speaker 1>is okay. Yeah, yeah, And you see the difference. Even

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I'll walk in the same time as another

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<v Speaker 1>parent and I'm way out the door before they even

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<v Speaker 1>get close to the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it intentional?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you like?

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<v Speaker 2>I won't engage because then I'm setting quite a high

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<v Speaker 2>standard for myself. So if I just do the then they'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Never expect to I'll yeah, look, there's definitely a hug.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong. It's not like out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's look, I always like give them a hug. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they're really bad and they're really unsettle, I do

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<v Speaker 1>turn into a softy. I have gone back and picked

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar up. I've seen him through the fence and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, nah, I can't do it. And we did

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about that where I was like, I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>seen him like that, and I went grabbed him. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually sat down in a separate part of the playground

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that day all of his friends that

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<v Speaker 1>he would usually click with weren't there. And yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just broke my heart and I just put him back

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<v Speaker 1>in the car and he spent the day with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was going to say, did you spend the

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<v Speaker 2>day day care? Your friends aren't here, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he just came home with me and

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<v Speaker 1>we just did some stuff and I think he just

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much watched me work.

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<v Speaker 2>And I stood off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I try and set that

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<v Speaker 1>everything's fine, everything's going to be fine, and they know that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think sometimes they just want to test you

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and they're like, well, what can I get

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<v Speaker 1>away with? Majority of the time, if there's a teacher there,

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<v Speaker 1>they really love. It's really seamless.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of work, you recently wrote a children's book.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do they think of it? Are they giving

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<v Speaker 2>it reviews? Do they have some feedback?

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<v Speaker 1>What do they think? They're a bit rattled because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why their friends aren't in kids books because

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<v Speaker 1>they're in the book. I've given one to the daycare

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, and they read it to the

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<v Speaker 1>kids and all that sort of stuff. And my kids

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<v Speaker 1>are like, why aren't they? And I'm like, oh, what

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<v Speaker 1>have I done? But at the same time, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. They really love it. They know the

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<v Speaker 1>story inside and out now, so I can't skip pages

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<v Speaker 1>at bedtime. It's really slowed down the bedtime read because

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<v Speaker 1>they like to point out everything they're in it, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's all I feel like there's a lot of illustration

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<v Speaker 1>in it and a lot of for the kids to

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<v Speaker 1>find something they didn't see the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a narcissism of kids. I know it's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you slow me down?

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<v Speaker 2>And your little boy did he go as you for bookquick?

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<v Speaker 1>He did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And how did that feel?

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't forced, it was actually his idea. Where I

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<v Speaker 1>was away, we did the book launch that week, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did a couple of pr things and I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Perth. My wife message me and she said, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go as you to book week this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, I'm not back till Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>and he' She's like, well it's later in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can get back and sort of out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I painted and drew some tatooes all because the book

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<v Speaker 1>illustrated was great. He wanted photo evidence of all my

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<v Speaker 1>tatooes to try and line them up, which was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really cool. They're not like perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them are like all the same shape.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did what I could on him that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was similar, and oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he loved it and like the kids at his

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<v Speaker 1>kindy sort of understood, but they were also they all

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<v Speaker 1>went as like, you know, superheroes and princesses and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said a couple of kids laughed at them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, just ask him where their

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<v Speaker 1>book is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. It's a really easy thing, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>to teach your kid how to bully others, because it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in a kid's book, and your dad didn't

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<v Speaker 2>write a book. What is your dad do? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a neurosurgeon. Shit, sounds like a loser.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's got a heap of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Asking for a friend. When you do your viral videos

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<v Speaker 2>and you're doing a bit of an impersonation if your wife,

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<v Speaker 2>do you ever cross the line and end up having

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<v Speaker 2>a fight about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Never, We've never once. She actually does all my spell checking.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, so if there's a video that goes up

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<v Speaker 1>with there's a spelling mistake, she didn't check it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when I first started on that journey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to make fun of the relationship or

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it to be a slapstick humor. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be the tiny little moment that you

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<v Speaker 1>have with someone that you don't think everyone else is having,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you see someone else have that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, ah, shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all having that. We're the biggest compliment I get

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<v Speaker 1>is when people say do you live with us? They go,

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<v Speaker 1>do you live with us? And that happens all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people misinterpret it and think that I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of her, but she absolutely loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love is it it's the subtle dig because

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<v Speaker 2>I think as a parent, you realize you're sleep deprived,

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<v Speaker 2>you've had a rough way, and there's one person you

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<v Speaker 2>can take it out. Yeah, you get away with one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you get away with two. It's normally about the third

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<v Speaker 2>that your partner turns around and goes, you're just being

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<v Speaker 2>a bitch today. Yeah, yeah, I probably am. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>find that that there are subtle digs you can get

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<v Speaker 2>away with? Like comments there was a great one that

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<v Speaker 2>you did about For example, when you try and have

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<v Speaker 2>two activities in one day. Oh yeah, the audacity.

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<v Speaker 1>To don't go for a serve and go to the

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<v Speaker 1>gym at the same time. Absolutely, unless you get two

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<v Speaker 1>times away as well. It's not Also another one is

0:11:44.829 --> 0:11:48.269
<v Speaker 1>doing the grocery shop alone. Yeah, and you're like, ah,

0:11:48.429 --> 0:11:50.669
<v Speaker 1>I'll do the shopping. It's like no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it. Or it's like take a kid, which

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<v Speaker 1>one do you want? Which one is the less Wingey wants?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very different task that way. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know how you would describe your parenting style.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say relaxed. I'm not overly strict with

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. I like them to show people respect, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like even at the young age, like the please and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you are really obvious in my house. But also

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<v Speaker 1>the swearing is pretty obvious in my house. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>one of those parents who's I can't swear around my

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<v Speaker 1>kids because if I do that, I feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know it's a bad thing and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it pat my back.

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<v Speaker 2>True, they're gonna be the kid that comes to school

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, dropping it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was. My parents never swore in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me, and I got in trouble for swearing because

0:12:34.509 --> 0:12:36.989
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was really cool to swear. But Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>and Macy both know what the bad words are, and

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<v Speaker 1>if one of them drops it, the other one always

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<v Speaker 1>dobs on the other one. But they know not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that because I don't watch my language as much

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<v Speaker 1>as other parents would expect me to or want me to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like a fond memory for us. We're on

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<v Speaker 1>a family trip, like an extended family trip in Fiji,

0:12:56.149 --> 0:12:58.869
<v Speaker 1>wire around like the family pool that's at the resort.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great, everyone was there, There's all these kids there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's those pool noodles, and Oscar picks up a pool noodle,

0:13:04.469 --> 0:13:05.989
<v Speaker 1>rests on the side of the pool and just goes

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<v Speaker 1>fox safe. And that is exactly what my wife says

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. That's her go to and it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>in the car or something. So yeah, and look, they

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a bad word, which is what I wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they know. If my kid's frustrated and he's

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<v Speaker 1>angry and he needs to curse to bring himself back down, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>go into your room and do it. But if I

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<v Speaker 1>hear you ever say something to someone like then that's

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<v Speaker 1>when it's going to be a problem. I've got some

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<v Speaker 1>friends that are like really like free range parents that

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<v Speaker 1>let the kids fall asleep river. We're pretty routine as

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<v Speaker 1>best as possible, and that's sounds that's my wife. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just following along.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I never categorize myself in a particular type

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<v Speaker 1>of parenting. I feel like I'm not a professional at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just doing my best every day. And there's days

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<v Speaker 1>where I'll look back and I'll go, why the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>did I do that? Of why did I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or what could I have done better? For sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be different every week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird. It feels like as a parent, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember making any decisions about how i'd parent.

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<v Speaker 1>You just do.

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<v Speaker 2>You never sit down and have a meeting and think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>these are the kind of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And they read books on like a particular style.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like if that works for them, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a parenting podcast to judge other parents

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Whatever works for you, guys is great. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I've got some free range parents friends which

0:14:42.989 --> 0:14:46.029
<v Speaker 1>are great, and then I've got some really strict parents

0:14:46.069 --> 0:14:49.069
<v Speaker 1>friends that also great. Their kids are great, They're great,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some days I'm like I think I'm just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday was bad parent, Yes it was my style today

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<v Speaker 2>and be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think like we're all different. Also, kids are

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<v Speaker 1>all different. If you've got two kids yourself, one is

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<v Speaker 1>completely different to the other and they respond to things differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Oscar will really respond when I start to raise

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<v Speaker 1>the voice a little bit, the counting. I count to

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<v Speaker 1>three a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, a professional adrenaline of counting.

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<v Speaker 1>And he knows Macy very different. She likes options, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's sassy. If you tell her to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be like no. But if you go, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>you could do that or you could do this, what

0:15:31.669 --> 0:15:33.909
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do? Then she'll make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It usually work, or then I've got to start counting

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<v Speaker 1>with her too, and she knows it's on crap.

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<v Speaker 2>If he found the hardest part about parenting, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a toddler five year old, like you're nearly

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<v Speaker 2>cut out of those totaling years. You've got a full

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<v Speaker 2>blown kid. Now, what's been the hardest part from sort

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<v Speaker 2>of sleep deprivation to tantrums?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the hardest part for us was Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely a really really tricky baby. He had silent refluxs,

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. As brand new parents, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the signs are for this stuff. So for the

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<v Speaker 1>first five months, he slept forward minutes around the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So it spent two hours trying to get him to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep forty minutes wake up screaming in pain. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was the hardest part.

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<v Speaker 2>For us, because it's your first kit, you're like, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Really took its toll on April actually, so early on

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<v Speaker 1>we spent I think it was like eight weeks instant

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<v Speaker 1>John of God to try and because she had post

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<v Speaker 1>antal depression because she wasn't getting asleep. Yeah. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was to the point where I think she went to

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<v Speaker 1>a physio appointment for separation afterwards and didn't come home. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and just she said, I just circled the block for hours,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to go back in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>we knew there was a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't function with that, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So there was probably the hardest part. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't be prepared. You just don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get, right, So that was the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>part for us. And the knock on effect to me

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<v Speaker 1>as well, which it's you know, him not sleeping for

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<v Speaker 1>so long was just so bad for our relationship, but

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<v Speaker 1>both our mental health. We're still recovering from it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's five years later, and it's also traumatizing too, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was a point there where I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a second child because I was like, I hated

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<v Speaker 1>the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And as horrible as that sounds to say you hated

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<v Speaker 1>your kid, which now it makes me feel sad, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it was the truth. I didn't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a second child because I'd be like, I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that again. Thankfully Macie was much easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny what you say about routine too. I

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<v Speaker 2>find a lot of people who go to routine is

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<v Speaker 2>important for us. They're people who know what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>when the baby doesn't sleep, so it's like routine is

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<v Speaker 2>the cure for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always think if you're out and someone says

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to go back and my baby has to

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<v Speaker 2>have a nap, and you get some parents go on,

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<v Speaker 2>my baby is to have a nap, I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go back in time. It's no sleep. It's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, And like we sleep trained him and stuff

0:17:59.829 --> 0:18:02.389
<v Speaker 1>a few times because obviously regression on has comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're at a point now where like both kids

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got friends the same age kids that still

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<v Speaker 1>have to sit in their room while the kids go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. I can now just put my kids down

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<v Speaker 1>and walk out, mainly because of how strict my wife

0:18:15.109 --> 0:18:17.589
<v Speaker 1>has been with we need to keep this routine. We've

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<v Speaker 1>just recently moved house twice in a month, and like

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<v Speaker 1>even so there might be one night and then the

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<v Speaker 1>next night they're back to normal because they're just so

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<v Speaker 1>used to it, other than when they're sick, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just another yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah week two week as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of parenting being hard, you have a sect me

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<v Speaker 2>us through the decision to get one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always April and I were going to be two.

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<v Speaker 1>She now has said a few times she's like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I love a baby. I'm like, well you can still

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<v Speaker 1>have one. It's not with me. Yeah. After the second one,

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<v Speaker 1>it was obvious that we didn't want to go for

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<v Speaker 1>a third. Some people might think that's selfish, but I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, I stand by my decision. There was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a time there where I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to lose my superpower. Yeah, but that's ridiculous really, and

0:19:09.789 --> 0:19:12.949
<v Speaker 1>men still think that the biggest question I get is

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<v Speaker 1>like do you still come?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>You idiot? God.

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<v Speaker 2>That is because I actually don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a puff of air.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it works, Like what are they

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<v Speaker 2>operating on?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I run you through it.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I didn't want to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared. Okay, like every man is.

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<v Speaker 2>Secretly you'll scare your wife's given birth twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Scared exactly exactly, but also like the barsol lof if

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<v Speaker 1>we do it, we're a hero. Yeah, yeah, but every

0:19:45.669 --> 0:19:49.669
<v Speaker 1>man is scared for someone fumbling around. I did it

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get more sex because it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where she's like, I don't you know how

0:19:54.829 --> 0:19:57.909
<v Speaker 1>how else are we supposed to have? She was like, well,

0:19:57.989 --> 0:19:59.589
<v Speaker 1>if you had a sex with me, we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to use any other birth control and.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mental load for a very long times.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, my argument wasn't That argument was like I

0:20:09.669 --> 0:20:12.189
<v Speaker 1>was just and like you men are scared. They're more

0:20:12.189 --> 0:20:15.749
<v Speaker 1>scared than you think. And then yeah, book it, your

0:20:15.749 --> 0:20:19.989
<v Speaker 1>book it it's pretty broutine. It's like a convey Yeah

0:20:20.429 --> 0:20:25.029
<v Speaker 1>you're awake for it. Yeah, shocker, you're meant to watch

0:20:25.069 --> 0:20:27.189
<v Speaker 1>this video that's like to tell you that it's actually

0:20:27.269 --> 0:20:30.949
<v Speaker 1>considered the irreversible procedure. Yeah, but you can reverse it

0:20:31.029 --> 0:20:32.909
<v Speaker 1>for any amount of money. You can do anything right.

0:20:33.509 --> 0:20:37.029
<v Speaker 1>And you go in, there's a waiting room full of victims, as.

0:20:36.949 --> 0:20:39.709
<v Speaker 2>I like to call, do you do a little nod

0:20:39.829 --> 0:20:40.309
<v Speaker 2>like we all know?

0:20:40.349 --> 0:20:45.709
<v Speaker 1>I went yeah, you're all like yeah. And when someone

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and you pretty much lay on a surgical

0:20:51.709 --> 0:20:54.069
<v Speaker 1>bed or whatever, they've got this big thing that goes

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<v Speaker 1>over that has a hole in the middle of it,

0:20:55.509 --> 0:20:59.109
<v Speaker 1>which is like for any surgery. They numb you up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of awkward tugging and some the smell

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<v Speaker 1>of burning skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, look honestly it's not I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you recommend it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah. I was so sweaty I stuck

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<v Speaker 1>to the bed. Butter peeled me off afterwards. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you go and you watch another video just because also

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<v Speaker 1>as well, a lot of people like it's more mental

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<v Speaker 1>for them than physical, I think, and for me not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I was like quite disconnected from it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. Recovery was dumb. I got mine at four

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock on a Saturday afternoon, and then I met the

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<v Speaker 1>boys at.

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<v Speaker 2>The pub celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up at a gay bar til about three

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<v Speaker 1>am in the morning, and then I woke up in

0:21:43.229 --> 0:21:45.989
<v Speaker 1>the morning clocked how many steps I'd done done fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand steps, and I was bruised up to my belly button.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there was probably something in the paperwork

0:21:53.189 --> 0:21:56.469
<v Speaker 2>about drinking. Yeah, it was the walking.

0:21:56.669 --> 0:21:59.109
<v Speaker 1>Was the walking, and honestly being at a gay bar

0:21:59.149 --> 0:22:00.469
<v Speaker 1>and everyone wanted to see my nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't not today, not today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my next time I ever got it like two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later, and he was like two days he was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So the recovery is since it's funny though once someone

0:22:13.029 --> 0:22:15.229
<v Speaker 1>gets it that you know the knock on effects of

0:22:15.229 --> 0:22:17.589
<v Speaker 1>everyone getting So my mother's group, which we are strong

0:22:17.709 --> 0:22:20.509
<v Speaker 1>from Oscar so five years we all go away together.

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<v Speaker 1>We just had lunch with him over the weekend, just

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<v Speaker 1>the parents, thank god there was enough babysitters for all

0:22:26.349 --> 0:22:28.469
<v Speaker 1>of us. And one of the other boys had just

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<v Speaker 1>had it. Then there's all this negotiation between couples of

0:22:33.029 --> 0:22:42.349
<v Speaker 1>if you'd get it. All the blokes is perker. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Even some of them were booking it in

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<v Speaker 1>at the restaurant. Wow, men are easy to manipulate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so true, and just take one for the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally. The bar is so low. Take this low bar

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<v Speaker 1>for the team. I'm glad I did it. It is

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<v Speaker 1>funny when people still ask if you come because you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, great piece of information.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not sure it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you give us a ten second play by play

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<v Speaker 2>of the chaos of your morning before you got here?

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<v Speaker 1>So this morning, well, let's just go back to last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I got home about eleven thirty. Macy woke up at

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve thirty. It took me two hours to get

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<v Speaker 1>it back to sleep because she just has a horrific cough.

0:23:25.549 --> 0:23:28.909
<v Speaker 1>She's like dry reaching yeah, yeah, yeah it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>also like in my face, I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>it straight down to kindy. One. Kindy had to get

0:23:37.669 --> 0:23:40.549
<v Speaker 1>both kids out of the car obviously, and then one

0:23:40.629 --> 0:23:43.149
<v Speaker 1>melting down because he didn't want to stay there. Oh

0:23:43.189 --> 0:23:45.269
<v Speaker 1>do you know what he did? Actually, I forgot. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in the back of the car and he picked

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<v Speaker 1>a scab on his knee. Oh, so that kicked off.

0:23:49.989 --> 0:23:51.789
<v Speaker 1>He was like, can you give me a bandate, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm driving. No, I would never I said, I said,

0:23:55.789 --> 0:23:58.509
<v Speaker 1>I don't have one. Where am I going to get

0:23:58.509 --> 0:24:01.029
<v Speaker 1>one from? And I'm driving, So there was that. And

0:24:01.069 --> 0:24:03.309
<v Speaker 1>then Macy hasn't been to Kindy for two weeks, so

0:24:03.509 --> 0:24:06.509
<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit of a separation anxiety there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just had to get on with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose how many hours sleep did you get?

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<v Speaker 1>Three?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Nice? Nice, you don't feel human, You're just Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We recorded a podcast this morning. Then I fell asleep

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<v Speaker 1>on Matt's couch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a video of me snoring, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got up and came here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, thank you so much for making the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We really appreciate it, and we hope you maybe can

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<v Speaker 2>squeeze in an afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you for having me crab crap crap advice.

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<v Speaker 2>every other Thursday. Okay, onto today's problem. Dear Clara and Jesse.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a ridiculous dilemma. Wow, this is a very

0:25:46.869 --> 0:25:49.229
<v Speaker 2>serious show, and now you're being silly. I have a

0:25:49.269 --> 0:25:51.789
<v Speaker 2>six month old and something has been playing on my mind.

0:25:52.509 --> 0:25:56.549
<v Speaker 2>He looks absolutely nothing like me. I have brown hair,

0:25:56.789 --> 0:25:59.909
<v Speaker 2>he's blonde. I have brown eyes, he has blue eyes.

0:26:00.189 --> 0:26:03.029
<v Speaker 2>I'm short, he's really long. I like how we have

0:26:03.109 --> 0:26:04.909
<v Speaker 2>Toby long not tall.

0:26:05.029 --> 0:26:05.269
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:05.269 --> 0:26:07.789
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what stage you call them tall? Maybe when

0:26:07.789 --> 0:26:11.349
<v Speaker 2>they're standing. There are no feature that resemble me at all.

0:26:11.389 --> 0:26:13.989
<v Speaker 2>And the older he gets, the more he's looking exactly

0:26:14.349 --> 0:26:17.429
<v Speaker 2>like his dad. Everyone stops to say they're twins, and

0:26:17.469 --> 0:26:19.669
<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of it. I'm the one he gave her

0:26:19.869 --> 0:26:22.149
<v Speaker 2>to him. I'm the one feeding him and doing the

0:26:22.189 --> 0:26:24.509
<v Speaker 2>majority of the caring for him. Why does he have

0:26:24.589 --> 0:26:28.869
<v Speaker 2>to be the spitting image of my husband? No, I'm kidding,

0:26:28.909 --> 0:26:31.269
<v Speaker 2>it's very important. I know it's silly, but I really

0:26:31.309 --> 0:26:33.549
<v Speaker 2>want him to look like me. I imagined a child

0:26:33.589 --> 0:26:36.229
<v Speaker 2>with my features, and now I have a tiny version

0:26:36.429 --> 0:26:38.989
<v Speaker 2>of the guy I live with. Help, Jesse, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any ideas?

0:26:44.949 --> 0:26:45.549
<v Speaker 1>So much?

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<v Speaker 2>Because what no one needs is two of their husband.

0:26:49.669 --> 0:26:52.629
<v Speaker 2>When you go and have a baby, you don't see

0:26:52.669 --> 0:26:55.429
<v Speaker 2>your husband. I'm going to give birth to another one

0:26:55.989 --> 0:26:58.749
<v Speaker 2>of the guy who sneezes too loud in this home.

0:26:59.469 --> 0:27:01.989
<v Speaker 2>That is a nightmare. And I often look at my

0:27:02.069 --> 0:27:05.549
<v Speaker 2>husband and I say, you are Luna. Yeah, I am

0:27:05.589 --> 0:27:08.509
<v Speaker 2>looking at my daughter. Do daughters want to look like

0:27:08.549 --> 0:27:12.829
<v Speaker 2>their fathers? I certainly don't do. We've talked about this.

0:27:12.909 --> 0:27:14.589
<v Speaker 2>When I've had a few drinks. I go into the

0:27:14.589 --> 0:27:18.109
<v Speaker 2>bathroom at a bar and I cry because I say,

0:27:18.109 --> 0:27:20.749
<v Speaker 2>I look like my father. Okay, Matilda doesn't look like

0:27:20.789 --> 0:27:24.389
<v Speaker 2>her father. Matilda looks like her grandfather, which is maybe worse.

0:27:25.589 --> 0:27:27.429
<v Speaker 2>Look this could have been written by me, and I

0:27:27.509 --> 0:27:31.429
<v Speaker 2>understand why this person is upset. First order of business,

0:27:31.429 --> 0:27:34.709
<v Speaker 2>and this is very serious, is to demand a maternity test.

0:27:35.229 --> 0:27:37.349
<v Speaker 2>The way you do that is that you go on

0:27:37.429 --> 0:27:41.349
<v Speaker 2>Maury Yovich. I wonder if Maury is still on. I

0:27:41.349 --> 0:27:44.589
<v Speaker 2>don't know, doy die No, no, I think he's still alive.

0:27:45.189 --> 0:27:48.269
<v Speaker 2>But it was always you are not the father. There

0:27:48.309 --> 0:27:50.429
<v Speaker 2>was a man who I think fathered like four hundred

0:27:50.469 --> 0:27:52.829
<v Speaker 2>children that was a real Yeah, he was always the father.

0:27:52.869 --> 0:27:54.749
<v Speaker 2>That was a series, that man, he was always a father.

0:27:54.869 --> 0:28:00.029
<v Speaker 2>But the producers stumbling across him, we're set for the

0:28:00.029 --> 0:28:02.309
<v Speaker 2>next year and a half of episode, and just women

0:28:02.309 --> 0:28:05.829
<v Speaker 2>would come forward, Yeah, my baby too, and on that,

0:28:06.109 --> 0:28:10.869
<v Speaker 2>on demanding a maternity test, I would just say, are

0:28:10.989 --> 0:28:12.709
<v Speaker 2>you certain you had a baby?

0:28:12.869 --> 0:28:13.549
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep.

0:28:13.869 --> 0:28:16.029
<v Speaker 2>Just have a thing about that time period, because you

0:28:16.069 --> 0:28:18.229
<v Speaker 2>could have got a little bit mixed up, because it

0:28:18.269 --> 0:28:24.189
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound like that baby's physically. Another way to address

0:28:24.229 --> 0:28:29.029
<v Speaker 2>it would be to sue the hospital. M call the hospital,

0:28:29.109 --> 0:28:31.429
<v Speaker 2>say I'm suing there's been a mix up. Waste time,

0:28:31.509 --> 0:28:33.909
<v Speaker 2>waste money. Yeah, and just say I was promised a

0:28:33.949 --> 0:28:38.029
<v Speaker 2>baby and what I got was a mini husband. Yeah yeah, yeah,

0:28:38.029 --> 0:28:40.909
<v Speaker 2>And why do you do that? Why did you do that?

0:28:41.549 --> 0:28:45.389
<v Speaker 2>Speak to the doctor. It also seems that your genes

0:28:45.549 --> 0:28:49.589
<v Speaker 2>are I mean this word respectfully limp. And that's how

0:28:49.589 --> 0:28:51.909
<v Speaker 2>I feel about my genes when it comes to my

0:28:51.949 --> 0:28:56.589
<v Speaker 2>bad They got overpowered. They got overpowered. So the question is, yeah, yeah,

0:28:56.669 --> 0:28:58.189
<v Speaker 2>the question is if we're going to go on for

0:28:58.229 --> 0:29:00.629
<v Speaker 2>a second or third whatever, then what are we going

0:29:00.709 --> 0:29:03.749
<v Speaker 2>to do to strengthen our genes? What are you? I'm

0:29:03.789 --> 0:29:08.149
<v Speaker 2>not a doctor, but maybe take magnesia or I reckon

0:29:08.229 --> 0:29:12.309
<v Speaker 2>iron would help. Yeah, super foods. Yeah. I read a

0:29:12.309 --> 0:29:14.469
<v Speaker 2>lot about flax seeds, and I just think that if

0:29:14.469 --> 0:29:17.749
<v Speaker 2>you had a smoothie with flax seeds, yeah, every day. Yeah,

0:29:17.789 --> 0:29:20.109
<v Speaker 2>then I think your genes would be stronger and the

0:29:20.149 --> 0:29:24.429
<v Speaker 2>next one would come out looking more like you. Great idea,

0:29:24.629 --> 0:29:27.949
<v Speaker 2>What a great idea. Definitely something that we're aligned on

0:29:28.309 --> 0:29:32.029
<v Speaker 2>is that idea of maternity. Yeah, can you prove it?

0:29:32.109 --> 0:29:35.149
<v Speaker 2>Are you sure? Because I think to create chaos you

0:29:35.229 --> 0:29:37.349
<v Speaker 2>actually accuse your husband or cheating.

0:29:38.429 --> 0:29:38.669
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:38.749 --> 0:29:40.789
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you say you had an affair and he's like,

0:29:40.869 --> 0:29:42.589
<v Speaker 2>even if I did, what does that have to do

0:29:42.669 --> 0:29:45.389
<v Speaker 2>with our baby? Well, it's not mine, it's not mine,

0:29:45.389 --> 0:29:50.749
<v Speaker 2>it's hers one man who had him. But you gave birth.

0:29:50.989 --> 0:29:54.229
<v Speaker 2>You can't be sure of that. M You can't be

0:29:54.269 --> 0:29:56.069
<v Speaker 2>sure of that. You can only be sure if you

0:29:56.109 --> 0:29:57.909
<v Speaker 2>go and get a test. Yeah, which I think is

0:29:58.069 --> 0:29:59.589
<v Speaker 2>like a cheeks. Well, I've seen it in maybe some

0:29:59.709 --> 0:30:03.869
<v Speaker 2>quiet documentaries. Yeah, so I think I didn't even offer it. Like,

0:30:03.949 --> 0:30:06.349
<v Speaker 2>do you think a maternity test place? If you rang

0:30:06.469 --> 0:30:08.269
<v Speaker 2>up and you said I'd like to do a maternity test,

0:30:08.829 --> 0:30:12.349
<v Speaker 2>what do you think they'd say? Ah, I mean if

0:30:12.349 --> 0:30:14.429
<v Speaker 2>you're paying for it, running out like a business, I

0:30:14.429 --> 0:30:18.429
<v Speaker 2>think they'd be like, that's perfectly fine, that's absolutely fine.

0:30:19.069 --> 0:30:22.989
<v Speaker 2>So definitely accuse your husband of cheating. Yeah, really, like

0:30:23.269 --> 0:30:26.069
<v Speaker 2>and I reckon, like really blow things up, and then

0:30:26.069 --> 0:30:28.949
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, oh my god, like how did you catch him?

0:30:29.069 --> 0:30:32.829
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, have you seen our sign? Have you

0:30:32.869 --> 0:30:38.029
<v Speaker 2>seen us sign? Not my son? Everyone's like cool, They're like,

0:30:38.269 --> 0:30:41.949
<v Speaker 2>we saw you pregnant. Anyway, That's just one root. Another

0:30:42.069 --> 0:30:46.029
<v Speaker 2>route hair dye contacts. I've wondered this. You need to

0:30:46.149 --> 0:30:49.829
<v Speaker 2>go full toddlers and tiaras with your six months old

0:30:50.309 --> 0:30:53.589
<v Speaker 2>and you need to take him to the hairdresser, die

0:30:53.709 --> 0:30:57.429
<v Speaker 2>his little blonde hair brown. Yep, get some brown contact

0:30:57.509 --> 0:31:01.189
<v Speaker 2>lenses and then take him home and everyone will say, oh,

0:31:01.469 --> 0:31:04.229
<v Speaker 2>looks like your husband, but has your coloring. M that's

0:31:04.229 --> 0:31:07.029
<v Speaker 2>because it's fate my baby. A complain that I have

0:31:07.069 --> 0:31:09.629
<v Speaker 2>about my little lunar is that she's quite olive. Yeah,

0:31:09.629 --> 0:31:12.629
<v Speaker 2>she has some pigment unlike her mum m m. She

0:31:12.749 --> 0:31:15.029
<v Speaker 2>makes me look really unwell. Yeah, I no, she does

0:31:15.069 --> 0:31:17.469
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful people like in we never get a good

0:31:17.509 --> 0:31:21.709
<v Speaker 2>photo of us together. Yeah, because next to her it

0:31:21.789 --> 0:31:25.869
<v Speaker 2>looks like I haven't seen sunshine in two years. Whereas

0:31:25.869 --> 0:31:29.069
<v Speaker 2>Matilda she glows white. She glows white. She makes you

0:31:29.109 --> 0:31:32.309
<v Speaker 2>look hot, she makes it look cliet, you've just come back. Yeah, Hi, Yeah,

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