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Speaker 2: and it's a lovely Monday. Well it's better because I've
Speaker 2: got a great episode of You Beauty that I want
Speaker 2: you to listen to. Kelly and I have some genius
Speaker 2: tips if I do say so myself, that's going to
Speaker 2: help you make more of an effort on Monday.
Speaker 3: So have a listen.
Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 4: I'm in love, I'm obsess and I don't even feel
Speaker 4: guilty about it.
Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to You Beauty. I am Lee Campbell,
Speaker 3: I'm Kelly McCarron.
Speaker 1: And before we get into today's show, let's see what's
Speaker 1: happening in the world of beauty.
Speaker 3: You look like a real news reader saying I do.
Speaker 5: This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
Speaker 5: you missed in the beauty world. I'm Amy Clark, mom
Speaker 5: and me is lifestyle editor and tinted lipbum lover.
Speaker 4: And I'm Cas Green mom and me is Morning editor
Speaker 4: and I forgot Miscara today. Anyway, here's what's trending.
Speaker 5: Forget your face. You can now try micro needling hair products.
Speaker 5: So something that was not on my beauty bingo card
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty five but definitely should have been micro
Speaker 5: needling shampoo. From the same Korean skincare brand that brought
Speaker 5: us that viral micro needling in a bottle Reedle serum
Speaker 5: comes a scalp shampoo that promises a cleaner scalp and
Speaker 5: healthier hair.
Speaker 1: Juna Zoo reviewed the new.
Speaker 5: VT Cosmetics PDRN Reedleshot Scalp shampoo on mammamea dot com
Speaker 5: de au and wrote that her scalp has never felt
Speaker 5: so fresh. What did you think when we first published
Speaker 5: this storycast.
Speaker 4: Look Amy, The formula is really interesting because it contains
Speaker 4: a lot of buzzy kind of ingredients, the first being
Speaker 4: something called PDRN otherwise known as salmon DNA, but in
Speaker 4: this case it's actually a plant derived version. So it
Speaker 4: also has the brand's Reedle shot microspicules, which for the
Speaker 4: uninitiated are kind of crystallized ultra fine needle like structures
Speaker 4: about fourteen times smaller than a single paw on your face.
Speaker 4: Juna says these don't but they do help to remove
Speaker 4: dead skin cells and create microscopic channels in your scalp
Speaker 4: skin for better ingredient absorption.
Speaker 5: It is just another example of that skinnification of all
Speaker 5: of the categories. But as someone who doesn't wash their
Speaker 5: hair without a scalp step ever, I would one hundred
Speaker 5: percent try this. I have seen people who dorm or
Speaker 5: roll their scalp and this looks like a lot less effort.
Speaker 1: Plus, it feels much.
Speaker 5: More low risk than the reedal face serum because it's in.
Speaker 3: A wash off format for my head.
Speaker 4: Louis Vuitton has just launched its first ever makeup line,
Speaker 4: Love You Tay Woo Woo So, with legendary British makeup
Speaker 4: artist Dame Pat McGrath leading the creative direction. The line
Speaker 4: features refillable high end products, including an eye shadow palette
Speaker 4: and lipsticks in Balm, satin and Matt finishes. So this
Speaker 4: collection is a lot more luxury airlooms than makeup products.
Speaker 1: The main catch is the price.
Speaker 5: I am like low key obsessed with the fact that
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, with cost of living, not only
Speaker 5: are Louis Vaton's beauty products to luxury for the everyday person,
Speaker 5: but they're also too luxury.
Speaker 3: For the luxury beauty category.
Speaker 5: As Business of Beauty put it four hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: dollars for an eyeshadow quad or a seven hundred and
Speaker 5: sixty five dollar monogram LV cosmetic lipstick pouch is quote
Speaker 5: in an entirely new galaxy of inaccessibility. For context, let's
Speaker 5: compare some luxury lipsticks on the market, So do your lipsticks.
Speaker 5: They start at the lower end of the scale at
Speaker 5: sixty nine dollars, Chanelle from seventy five, tom Ford from
Speaker 5: eighty eight dollars, and the Ermez lipsticks are one hundred
Speaker 5: and eleven dollars. There's also Patmogra's eponymous line costs seventy dollars,
Speaker 5: while this Louis Vaton lipstick sits at two hundred and
Speaker 5: sixty five dollars.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's quite shocking and quality wise, there is
Speaker 4: absolutely no doubt that any Patmograth formula is going to
Speaker 4: be impeccable and what you're paying for it is an innovation,
Speaker 4: but a piece of fashion and beauty history.
Speaker 1: They're essentially collectus.
Speaker 4: Items and we're all going to want one in our bag,
Speaker 4: but can we afford it?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: It's an interesting choice to take this route when Traditionally
Speaker 4: luxury beauty products have been priced as a kind of
Speaker 4: entry point into fashion houses. So you can also buy
Speaker 4: these direct from lou Vaton, but we're yet to see
Speaker 4: where Elsi's might be ranged in Australia.
Speaker 5: Can AI replace your dermatologist? Lareo is kind of asking
Speaker 5: us to consider this. Recently, they have launched their own
Speaker 5: beauty genius AI Skin Assistant. It's different to a virtual
Speaker 5: try on, which has been around for a while, where
Speaker 5: you can kind of virtually try on a lipstick, shade
Speaker 5: or a foundation through AI on various beauty websites. Now
Speaker 5: you can actually do a skin consultation through your smartphone,
Speaker 5: kind of like a skin therapist, kind of like a
Speaker 5: dermal clinician in your pocket. I mean, working in media,
Speaker 5: we are all very sensitive about how AI could be coming.
Speaker 1: For our jobs.
Speaker 5: Cas, do you think dermatologists should be worried?
Speaker 4: Look, Amy, I think there's always going to be a
Speaker 4: place for dermatologists. There's really no getting over their kind
Speaker 4: of expertise. But I do think it's a really fun
Speaker 4: new tool. I think most of us are feeling super
Speaker 4: overwhelmed when it comes to beauty and skincare. Most of
Speaker 4: us are googling actives like crazy and looking up ingredients
Speaker 4: in our various products. So I think a way to
Speaker 4: kind of decode that at home makes a lot of
Speaker 4: sense as a kind of replacement for your Google search
Speaker 4: or your own kind of research that you might do
Speaker 4: and like. This particular app has over one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand annotations from dermatologists and supposedly delivers up to
Speaker 4: ninety five percent accuracy, So I would say is probably
Speaker 4: better than Google, but it's definitely not going to be
Speaker 4: better than your dermatologists. They go to school for a reason.
Speaker 4: They're amazing at what they do. We love them, so yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not about to replace them, but it's a nice
Speaker 4: little addition to your beauty regime. Now you're up to date,
Speaker 4: let's get into all your beauty Q and a's with
Speaker 4: Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything. You ask
Speaker 1: many questions, potty question. It's coming through from our instat
Speaker 1: would love to hear how the collective? How are you
Speaker 1: touching up your makeup during the day? Is powder still
Speaker 1: a thing? How do I know which powder to use?
Speaker 1: Do I choose the same brand and color as my
Speaker 1: foundation or is there some universal touch up powder that
Speaker 1: everyone is using. Help. I have dry skin, but I
Speaker 1: get a shine going through the day as my makeup
Speaker 1: wears off.
Speaker 2: Well that's good because we can both probably help because
Speaker 2: I'm a powder girl expert and you're dry.
Speaker 3: But do you ever touch up with a powder?
Speaker 1: I don't touch up, but I do.
Speaker 3: Oh I do?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: Okay, as we will talk about like obviously I'm still going.
Speaker 2: I did my makeup on Saturday, it's now Monday. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine, Oh my god, I drop.
Speaker 1: I actually think that my makeup would still slap. It
Speaker 1: does not move, I can imagine. And you know how
Speaker 1: some products are like seventy two hour ware. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why if you're bendering, that's why.
Speaker 2: No, that is not appropriate. You should still wash your
Speaker 2: face anyway. Yes, my lovely Instagram friend, powder is such
Speaker 2: a thing. And I think maybe you're thinking back because
Speaker 2: you say, do I choose the same brand than color
Speaker 2: as my foundation. That's a bit a bygone era where
Speaker 2: you kind of used to see women open a compact
Speaker 2: and it was you know, skin tone color, and oftentimes
Speaker 2: if you still see those, they're a powdered foundation not
Speaker 2: really kind of a touchup. You want something translucent and
Speaker 2: truly translucent. I am the boss of that because I
Speaker 2: need to touch up throughout the day. I have been
Speaker 2: out with Kelly and I think even Mia, and I've
Speaker 2: just sat there with blotting papers on my face. So
Speaker 2: as it warms up, I definitely need to do this too.
Speaker 2: I'm combo, so the sides of my face are actually
Speaker 2: getting dryer and dryer as I get more experienced, but
Speaker 2: the center remains combination.
Speaker 3: Oily, Can I make some recommendation?
Speaker 1: Please do?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: The fenty Beauty in Usy Matt instant setting and blotting
Speaker 2: powder is fantastic. You can get a little size for
Speaker 2: twenty seven dollars, so that's a pressed powder. Ain't nobody
Speaker 2: got time? Well maybe people do, but I don't do
Speaker 2: a loose powder when im mountain about because it's just
Speaker 2: way too messy. So that's really good. Another one that
Speaker 2: I really really love is the inners Free no Sebam
Speaker 2: mineral powder. There's two versions, so if you're looking online,
Speaker 2: the new version is new Little travel Guy, but you
Speaker 2: only ever need travel in these situations. Firstly, because you
Speaker 2: said you're touching up but secondly, you're never gonna go
Speaker 2: through it all. It's nine dollars fifty. I love it,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna need if you're gonna use one of those.
Speaker 2: You want a little brush if you're gonna do a
Speaker 2: pressed powder thing, ease. Some of them come with that
Speaker 2: little puffy thing. But meno liky don't know because it's
Speaker 2: you can't really, I just don't like it.
Speaker 3: I mean you might.
Speaker 2: So two brush recommendations to go with your powder that
Speaker 2: you're taking in your handbag. The Mecha Max retractable travel brush.
Speaker 2: It's just one of those boo but it's gonna lid
Speaker 2: because you don't want brush in your makeup bag. That's
Speaker 2: then gonna dirty it. Twenty bucks or on Amazon three
Speaker 2: pack retractable brush. So it's like three little face brushes.
Speaker 2: So you might use one like you're a cream girl.
Speaker 2: You could use one for cream products. You could use
Speaker 2: one for you know, bronze or whatever, and one for
Speaker 2: setting powder. Sixteen touch up if you want to. Some
Speaker 2: people want to touch up their cream contour. Well, I
Speaker 2: just think do it right the first time. You won't
Speaker 2: have to anyway. Just get three brushes and then you've
Speaker 2: got one in rotation when you're washing it. Another thing
Speaker 2: I want to tell you about is blotting paper. I
Speaker 2: feel like you, my dry friend who just gets a
Speaker 2: bit shiny. Blotting paper is perfect. It's literally a little
Speaker 2: rectangle of like it looks like baking paper, and it's
Speaker 2: got the tiniest film of translucent powder and you just
Speaker 2: blot like that comes in a really thin little packet.
Speaker 2: They're wonderful. Models prefer has some blotting papers. Unpack is
Speaker 2: six dollars. My favorites are from Muji, Themoji Face blotting
Speaker 2: cosmetic paper two dollars fifty.
Speaker 3: Oh one more thing.
Speaker 2: There's lots of them, but I like the Revlon one,
Speaker 2: The Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone facial roller. Yes, it's
Speaker 2: this little It kind of looks like a makeup brush,
Speaker 2: I guess, but then the head's like a little it
Speaker 2: looks like a marble, like a stone marble. It's made
Speaker 2: out of volcanic rock, which is really porous and absorbs oil,
Speaker 2: so you just roll it over your oily bit.
Speaker 1: Because that's what I'm thinking. Given that she said that
Speaker 1: she's dry, I actually don't think that her makeup is
Speaker 1: wearing off during the day if you're priming and then
Speaker 1: layering properly.
Speaker 2: So do you think she could fix this problem at application?
Speaker 2: It depends because some people are face touches me. So
Speaker 2: if you touch your face all day like you rest
Speaker 2: your hands. You said that I want to touch my Yes,
Speaker 2: then of course your makeup's going to start separating and
Speaker 2: coming off a little bit in those areas.
Speaker 3: But she's saying she's just getting shiny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I agree with you. I think just
Speaker 1: a blotting paper.
Speaker 2: Oh, she does say, as my makeup wears off. But yes,
Speaker 2: if you're layering your products.
Speaker 1: The difference between I think that I could do my
Speaker 1: makeup and it would look the same between ten minutes
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes. The difference is like I've got time
Speaker 1: to do it, Yes, Like I could do the same
Speaker 1: look to the naked eye. Yeah, in ten minutes or
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. But when I spend the time and lay
Speaker 1: up my products properly and spend time, my makeup will
Speaker 1: not move. Like I will go play netball after a
Speaker 1: full day of recording and my makeup is still pretty good.
Speaker 1: The only place that it tends to move at the
Speaker 1: moment is my upper lip because of hey fever season.
Speaker 1: So I'm blowing my nose a lot, that's it, and
Speaker 1: I eat and drink, so my lips around there, but
Speaker 1: the rest of my face it doesn't move. And if
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Going to touch what are these steps, lady.
Speaker 1: Well, for everyone it would be different, but for me,
Speaker 1: it's like just taking the time doing my skin care
Speaker 1: and then waiting a little bit.
Speaker 2: Waiting is a lot of it because I think you go,
Speaker 2: you know, skincare, sunscreen, foundation, and it's like everything's fine,
Speaker 2: but it starts peeling off and wearing off a lot
Speaker 2: quicker because you haven't allowed it.
Speaker 3: To think of it.
Speaker 2: When you're trying to paint your own nails, you've got
Speaker 2: a let it dry between steps.
Speaker 3: It goes glug city.
Speaker 1: Exactly as soon as you touch anything. So and then
Speaker 1: I will always prime, and then I start with my.
Speaker 3: Creen to not prime miss a crime crime.
Speaker 1: And then I'll always start with all of my cream
Speaker 1: products and not use heaps of them, but lay out
Speaker 1: after your foundation. After I've primed, and then crime, then foundation,
Speaker 1: then like my conceal is my cream contour, my cream blush.
Speaker 1: Then I will set everything with the equivalent powder products.
Speaker 1: So in the areas that I've cream contoured, I will
Speaker 1: bronze whoa like It takes twenty minutes, not ten minutes,
Speaker 1: but it lasts all day. And then if I am like.
Speaker 2: When do you do your setting spray last like a
Speaker 2: Charlotte to every setting spray.
Speaker 1: I don't usually do it at the end of doing
Speaker 1: my makeup. I'll just do it throughout the day to
Speaker 1: sort of refresh my skin and make it look a
Speaker 1: little bit glowier. And if I have got movement around
Speaker 1: my mouth, I just sort of like press a dirty
Speaker 1: concealer brush into the area without I do that done
Speaker 1: to it, or I just cause you have fingers and
Speaker 1: warm I kind of just smooge when it comes back.
Speaker 1: And I also think that you need to remember that
Speaker 1: no one's looking at your facely as closely as you are,
Speaker 1: So though you think that you're make up separating and
Speaker 1: wearing off in different no one's noticing. But also we
Speaker 1: do it for us, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but no one else is going to look at you
Speaker 1: in as much detail, and why are we looking it up?
Speaker 1: Like if I looked at my makeup right now, actually closely,
Speaker 1: I'd find a lot wrong with it.
Speaker 2: Well, you've been out since Saturday, I have. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: try one of those powders. Get a travel size, try
Speaker 2: something affordable. But yeah, these truly translucent. They're called universally translucent.
Speaker 2: They are actually clear, yes, exactly, and anyone can use them.
Speaker 2: Maybe not the deeper skin tones. I think they've got
Speaker 2: really nice translucent powders. It aren't white because they can
Speaker 2: do a bit of a white cast, do they Yeah,
Speaker 2: but for a lot of skin tones you can use
Speaker 2: the translucent white ones. But then they do have specific
Speaker 2: ones for darker skin tones.
Speaker 3: Excellent, Okay.
Speaker 2: Naomi sent us the question, this is another makeup question,
Speaker 2: because you know what we often find, we get a
Speaker 2: lot of skin questions, you know, year round, but then
Speaker 2: coming out to spring what we call.
Speaker 3: The party season.
Speaker 1: I've seen that this is going to be playful makeup summer.
Speaker 1: Like people are saying that people are going to be
Speaker 1: having fun. That doesn't mean you have to.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I want to. I feel left out anyway.
Speaker 2: Naomi asked us the following question, Hello, I have a
Speaker 2: makeup challenge.
Speaker 3: So as a girl in the know, I do what
Speaker 3: girls do.
Speaker 2: Challenge I think she means like problem problem, so at
Speaker 2: if you will an undrum. So, as a girl in
Speaker 2: the know, I do what girls do and head to
Speaker 2: your beauty podcast for answers. I'm finding my makeup is pilling,
Speaker 2: but only on one side of my face, between my
Speaker 2: eyeline and my temple. It's the combination of serum, moisturizer, sunscreen, primer,
Speaker 2: and tinted BB cream. That's its well everywhere on my face,
Speaker 2: but those two spots. It's Pillar Paloosa. I love her,
Speaker 2: She's got personality. Is it a combination of layers, poor
Speaker 2: application technique? I use my fingers and a foundation brush,
Speaker 2: not pouncing a sponge. She doesn't pounce Kelly, Kelly's a pouncer.
Speaker 2: I've got to get you pouncing in Or is it
Speaker 2: just some sort of weird karmic revenge for all the
Speaker 2: times I've parked badly?
Speaker 3: Please help? I know the answer?
Speaker 1: So do I?
Speaker 2: Oh, well you go first, Now you go. Well, we
Speaker 2: might have different answers, but I have experienced such conundrum.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I just think that potentially there's a build
Speaker 1: up of dead skin cells and old makeup in that area,
Speaker 1: and so she needs to use a chemical exfolia ding
Speaker 1: ding Ding.
Speaker 2: This happens to me here, see because also I have
Speaker 2: the strangest hairline where I have like three millimeters between
Speaker 2: my eyebrows and my hair.
Speaker 1: How many do I have?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Way more? Remember when I.
Speaker 2: Use that type and my hair joined my eyebrows and
Speaker 2: I had to have it threaded. So I often neglect
Speaker 2: that area because I, you know, doing my skincare and
Speaker 2: whatever chemic soolion or my vitamin A, I often don't
Speaker 2: even I offically do stuff to its skincare wise, but
Speaker 2: not enough. And this happened to me when my makeup
Speaker 2: was great. I knew all the layers, I know what
Speaker 2: layers play well, but just these two, like my temple
Speaker 2: pretty much or just above my browbone to my hair
Speaker 2: was peeling. Yeah, because even if you think about if
Speaker 2: you do have a lot of space, yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of the time we just sort of focus on that
Speaker 2: center part of our face and we don't. I even
Speaker 2: sometimes have to remind myself to do my skincare up
Speaker 2: onto my ears, yes, like my especially sunscreen, sunscreen and exfoliation,
Speaker 2: because that skin is really neglected. Okay exactly, And I'm
Speaker 2: going to recommend some products, but use one of these
Speaker 2: because I've got some just you know Bha. You want
Speaker 2: to probably an Aha Bha blend, just because there's sounds
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of dead skin cells to get
Speaker 2: rid of.
Speaker 3: But some of the.
Speaker 1: Wipes, like I think a cloth wipe is really easy.
Speaker 1: Here those doctor Dennis Gross ones that are so expensive, yes,
Speaker 1: well I've got cheaper ones.
Speaker 3: Well are they? I mean they're not as expensive.
Speaker 2: The First Aid Beauty has like a little twenty eight
Speaker 2: pad travel thing, and also there is the prep and
Speaker 2: glow by New Face and they've got little individually packed cloths.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you get one of these when you're
Speaker 2: doing your little eyebrow bit, do is behind your ear.
Speaker 1: And look at it. It's disgusting.
Speaker 3: It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: And also do your back because we often don't scrub
Speaker 1: our bot.
Speaker 2: I agree, but just like do this and then also
Speaker 2: do in your ear and all around like this behind
Speaker 2: here is foul. I do mind quite a lot because
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. So long story short, Naomi, it's probably exfoliation,
Speaker 2: so use you know anything that you've got at home.
Speaker 2: If you've already got a chemical exfoliant. The Paula's Choice
Speaker 2: BHA is great that now comes in a little travel size.
Speaker 2: I related to travel sizes today. It's a great way
Speaker 2: to try different things as well, isn't it? As I said,
Speaker 2: the new face little wipes are great. So it's the
Speaker 2: first day. They're like little discs, but you could also
Speaker 2: try if you wanted something that's a bit more manual.
Speaker 2: Although this has kind of enzymes in it is our
Speaker 2: favorite Dermologica daily mycrofole Oh yes, which is.
Speaker 3: Like a little clay.
Speaker 2: You had a little bit of water and then you
Speaker 2: can kind of custom.
Speaker 1: Buff how much buffing you want, yeah, how much.
Speaker 3: Stuffing you want on your face?
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I actually think that that is the
Speaker 1: only possible option as to what well.
Speaker 2: I literally had this problem both sides, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what's going on? And this was a time where I
Speaker 2: was using the consistent like serum, sunscreen, makeup. I knew
Speaker 2: they worked well. I exfoliated ding ding fix it right up.
Speaker 2: Please everyone go get a swipey or even just a
Speaker 2: cotton pad and clean behind your ears and of your face.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. Yeah, and just report back on
Speaker 1: the difference that it makes.
Speaker 2: And also when you're in the shower, if you cleanse
Speaker 2: in the shower or not make sure you cleanse your
Speaker 2: ears as well.
Speaker 3: It's very important.
Speaker 1: I clean myase every day just because it feels so good.
Speaker 1: I know it's not supposed to.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, the ear buddy things, but no, I mean, like, actually,
Speaker 2: not inside your ear drum. Does inside your ear drum
Speaker 2: feel that's naughty? I know I like doing that with
Speaker 2: tooth foss.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: We're not in my ear anyway.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to floss your teeth. That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but I like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, onto, beauty bite, beauty bite. I did not even
Speaker 2: mean to have a segue, but mine's got to do
Speaker 2: with tooth foss. I wish I brought some, but my
Speaker 2: hair's up anyway. So frizz City's either raining and your
Speaker 2: hair's frizzy, or it's getting humid and your hair's frizzy.
Speaker 3: Maybe not when I want.
Speaker 2: I know I'm weird, but obviously sometimes you can just
Speaker 2: use product and a serum. You can use a toothbrush.
Speaker 2: But did you know this is what I've done when
Speaker 2: I've been in an emergency, a frizz emergency. Do you
Speaker 2: have toothfloss with you? Like all the time?
Speaker 1: No, because I hate the feeling, and I never floss
Speaker 1: my teeth. I'm fine. The dentist has not know.
Speaker 2: Well, look I'm a floss addict, and it's not great.
Speaker 2: I normally have those little pixture things. But if you've
Speaker 2: got regular toothfloss and you don't have any hair products,
Speaker 2: you get a tiny bit of lip balm or something
Speaker 2: and you put it on the floss.
Speaker 3: I wish I could do it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't even already have like some product on.
Speaker 3: It's a bit waxy, but you know, we're working with frizzy, okay.
Speaker 3: And then you put it. I put it on my
Speaker 3: centerpart and then I go, h really firm.
Speaker 1: I bet that works a true it does.
Speaker 2: It's so satisfying. I mean, if you've got hairspray, great
Speaker 2: or like whatever. But if you've really stuck on a
Speaker 2: desert island with lip part and toothfloss and you're really
Speaker 2: worried about your frizze, you know, because the island's great,
Speaker 2: you literally get like a length of you know, a
Speaker 2: couple of centimeters. Well what's that twenty centimeters? I don't know, yes,
Speaker 2: and then like just like I just put like a
Speaker 2: tiny bit of lip balm. I've got like a a
Speaker 2: chuby lip barm on it and then you just hold
Speaker 2: it where your parties are, where the frizze is quite firm,
Speaker 2: like like you're putting a hat on, and then you
Speaker 2: just slide it down the length of your hair and
Speaker 2: it just MUSHes it. Yes, and then you're not getting
Speaker 2: lots of juicy lip farm on your hands. But also
Speaker 2: your hands are way too heavy handed because it's the
Speaker 2: tiniest string with the of lip balm, it just smushes
Speaker 2: them down. But it's like nothing happened.
Speaker 1: That's genius.
Speaker 2: That's actually I love that I starting a guiver of beauty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you really should. It should be like a little
Speaker 1: sub channel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've run out of ideas, but that was all
Speaker 2: I had besides all my other great ones.
Speaker 3: What's your Beauty?
Speaker 1: A bit of a PSA and I'm really loving a
Speaker 1: p SA right now. I actually really am on eye.
Speaker 1: I feel like yeahs soap and we will link the
Speaker 1: video that I'm referencing in the show notes. But it's
Speaker 1: been making the rounds on socials over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. There was this lovely lass who basically came
Speaker 1: out and talked about what an esthetician has done to
Speaker 1: her skin. Have you seen it? Yes, in La an
Speaker 1: esthetician is kind of like between a skin therapist and
Speaker 1: a dermatologist.
Speaker 3: I would say, like.
Speaker 1: They've done a bit of training, but not well.
Speaker 3: I mean it also depends where here they're very good.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, America, I think you can just like go and
Speaker 2: buy lasers and stuff and call yourself.
Speaker 1: A And it was just a reminder. So firstly, this
Speaker 1: esthetician who she trusted with her face after many treatments,
Speaker 1: burnt her skin, actually burnt her skin so badly.
Speaker 2: The treatment was she having. Do you recall they were
Speaker 2: doing appeal? Yeah, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: Appeals. People think, oh, it's just appeal. It's just something
Speaker 1: that you can know.
Speaker 3: Like putting acid on your phone.
Speaker 1: People can go so wrong. And this is just why
Speaker 1: it's so important to know who you're going to and anyway,
Speaker 1: and then she proceeded to like the lady was kept
Speaker 1: trying to fix it. She spent sixty thousand dollars. Firstly,
Speaker 1: if someone ever stuffed something up, they kept.
Speaker 3: Going back to the same person trying to get it fixed.
Speaker 1: Because the lady said, hey, I can help you with this,
Speaker 1: I can fix this. Sad, but that lady should have
Speaker 1: then covered it.
Speaker 3: I remember, but I would also not go back to that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But I remember when my sister was younger,
Speaker 1: she's always had really sensitive skin, and she went to
Speaker 1: a salon for her eyebrows to be threaded and plucked,
Speaker 1: and they waxed, and she'd said to them, I've got
Speaker 1: sensitive skin.
Speaker 3: Much skin lifted, like literally takes his skin off.
Speaker 1: And that happened. And the next day was her formal
Speaker 1: and she was so self conscious. And I called them
Speaker 1: up and I said, she told you that she had
Speaker 1: sensitive skin. And I've always been a really like bossy
Speaker 1: big sister. I said, so you can help her cover
Speaker 1: this up. So I took her back in there and
Speaker 1: made them help cover it up. Yeah, because my makeup
Speaker 1: wasn't cutting it. And also just to be like, look
Speaker 1: what you did because you didn't listen.
Speaker 3: I think it's a.
Speaker 2: Really important reminder that these things are serious. You know,
Speaker 2: we especially in our beauty bubble here, we talk about
Speaker 2: like these things like it ain't no thing, but getting
Speaker 2: professional treatments, whether it's needling, lasers, peels, it's pretty full
Speaker 2: on and it can cause a lot of damage in
Speaker 2: the wrong hand. So word of mouth, asking for recommendations
Speaker 2: from friends.
Speaker 1: Also trusting your gut. So I have told you about
Speaker 1: this before. When I was in my twenties, I was
Speaker 1: doing a trial with a brand, so I was in
Speaker 1: beauty media, so it was comped, and I was doing
Speaker 1: weekly facials because they were trying to clear up my accounts, right,
Speaker 1: And my skin progressively got worse and it looked always burnt,
Speaker 1: and my acne was just catastrophically getting worse, and they
Speaker 1: were going, it's purging, it's purging. No, no, uggr gut,
Speaker 1: You're not purging for that long. And in the end
Speaker 1: I did finally listen to my gut and just went, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is not right. But I just I really felt
Speaker 1: for that girl. And it's just a real reminded to
Speaker 1: look into don't buy group on vouchers for treatments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't go to someone with a little to no qualification sex,
Speaker 1: word of mouth, asking the your beauty.
Speaker 2: Facebook and how about a consultant. Go home and think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I google reform.
Speaker 2: But there's a scar on my arm that's from when
Speaker 2: I was nineteen. I got the bus in from where
Speaker 2: I lived into the city and I had a laser
Speaker 2: hair removal test patch back then because I've got very
Speaker 2: hairy arms. I shaved them now see busines, and that
Speaker 2: scar still I'm forty three, because they burnt, like through
Speaker 2: to the bone. And I remember calling the next day
Speaker 2: and like there was no camera phones. I was like,
Speaker 2: and so I had to go back and show them
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: Your fault, and I was like okay.
Speaker 2: And I was already ashamed of my hairy arms, and
Speaker 2: you know, then you ashamed of your scars, and that's
Speaker 2: the thing. Well, I'm not I'm just like your negodgence.
Speaker 2: But when you're younger, I don't think there was no
Speaker 2: social media to call people out.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a huge calling out. I firmly believe
Speaker 1: that a lot of business should be handled behind cl
Speaker 1: doors because you don't realize that it can really impact
Speaker 1: a small business. So if you can sort it out behind.
Speaker 2: Closed doors, please, And most people have good intentions, but yes,
Speaker 2: follow your gut, do you. Yeah, just don't go for
Speaker 2: the bargain when it's your face in someone else's hands.
Speaker 2: I was just a little another soapbox persae that toothfloss
Speaker 2: soapboxes better finally go home and wash my makeup. Oh,
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Speaker 2: much for joining us on New Beauty. We'll be back
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