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Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 4: From Mamma may I. Welcome to the Spill your daily

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Speaker 3: And I'm Laura Brodnick. And coming up on the show today,

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Speaker 3: David and Victoria Beckham, one of our favorite couples, is

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Speaker 3: celebrating their twenty fifth wedding anniversary at the same time

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Speaker 3: as a damning new book is being released and it

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Speaker 3: chronicles this whole intense media war that was happening behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes, and it was all triggered by an Australian

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Speaker 3: interview allegedly allegedly to Everything So Juicy.

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Speaker 4: But first, I have a bone to pick with my algorithm.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, So you know how I live my.

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Speaker 4: Life on TikTok scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. I think I scroll.

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Speaker 4: Probably I want to count, like at least ten thousand

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Speaker 4: times a day. I'm just scrolling everything. So on all

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Speaker 4: my social media platforms, it's only showing me one person,

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Speaker 4: and that person is someone named Chapel Rowe.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you should be thanking your algorithm for that, Okay, amusing.

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Speaker 4: Thinking now I am thinking. And the beginning, I was

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Speaker 4: really confused because I didn't know who Chapel Rone was

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Speaker 4: and because my algorithm was showing me so many videos

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Speaker 4: of her, I actually had to research. I'm like, who

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Speaker 4: I think everyone's been getting the same thing. So Chapel

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Speaker 4: is a pop singer, and I feel like she's known

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Speaker 4: for her quite extravagant outfits. She's very like Lady Gaga

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Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, yes.

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Speaker 3: By her own emission, very influenced by the drag queen scene.

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Speaker 4: That she looks absolutely brilliant. So from my research, I

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Speaker 4: can tell that she's been a singer for a really

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Speaker 4: I know these songs. I just didn't know who the

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Speaker 4: So I was wondering why all of a sudden, she's

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Speaker 4: of the most iconic lines I've ever heard. She said,

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Speaker 3: Yes, which she did attribute to like a play on

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Speaker 3: words from other artists that she loves. But what she's

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Speaker 3: saying is true is all musicians and artists are obsessed

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Speaker 3: her name into Google, underneath the propm comes up as

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Speaker 3: do you mean your favorite artists favorite artists? You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's so good, Like it's absolutely genius, And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: that should be a tagline for our podcast, where your

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's completely not a lie. You have to

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Speaker 3: But my sister Lucy, who's much cooler than me, and

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Speaker 3: So I love that she's blowing up now and becoming

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Speaker 3: She's been in the industry for like a decade.

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Speaker 3: And also do you want her to stay hidden? And like, yes,

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Speaker 4: Yes, no one bullying me in the comments. I'm a

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Speaker 3: I do need to find more songs, though, so send

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Speaker 3: us your favorite, like on the Instagram storms Room, hit

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Speaker 1: So my dad, my dad. It's not a simple answer

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Speaker 3: So the Beckham family really in the news cycle this

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Speaker 3: So I first laughing before you even get into this,

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy this boys come back around. For a

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Speaker 4: Now he's back. So Brooklyn Beckham has done a little

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Speaker 4: He's like, you're a photographer, you're a chef, you're a genius.

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Speaker 4: And it's so funny. He's traveling around New York City

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Speaker 3: your Brooklyn Peltz Beckham. I don't know why that sent me.

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Speaker 5: So you're a professional traveling now, Yeah, I actually booked

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Speaker 5: Well, not big deal, but I did charm my way

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Speaker 3: Nailed that bridge moment where he's like giving a tour

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Speaker 3: So while that story is going around and everyone's falling

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Speaker 4: Of us, he's trying to pull spotlight from I think,

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Speaker 3: So it is David Victoria's twenty fifth wedding anniversary this week.

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Speaker 3: Not sure the exact day, but you know, just this

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Speaker 4: Embarrassing, I know.

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Speaker 3: I should, I should look that up. The memory of

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Speaker 4: They don't want to have the sword.

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Speaker 3: They cut the wedding cake with her massive sword and

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn's there is a tiny baby just in this purple suit.

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Speaker 3: Just like looking around, they sat on the thrones. It

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Speaker 3: was a whole thing. So in celebration of that, US

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Speaker 3: Weekly have released this big, glossy magazine cover about them.

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Speaker 3: It does make it look like from the outside they

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Speaker 3: They're like, it's Vogue and nothing, and it's the secrets

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Speaker 3: everything work behind the scenes. It's a bit of alistical,

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Speaker 2: You're Victoria been married for twenty years now, incredible work

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Speaker 3: Why she sobbed? Oh would David embarrassed her like this?

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Speaker 1: I knew as soon as I met him. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think the two of us are definitely going to

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Speaker 4: be reading yes book.

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Speaker 3: So it's called The House of Beckham, Money, Sex, and Power.

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Speaker 4: The image is also intense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they look like they're fighting in that book. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know, if you pick up a copy, let

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Speaker 3: us know your favorite bit.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to this bill today,

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Speaker 4: and if you're also looking for something else, we have

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Speaker 4: a podcast here at Mama Mia that's hosted by Claire Stevens.

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Speaker 4: It's called but Are You Happy. It is in its

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Speaker 4: second season, and one of the episodes she did an

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Speaker 4: interview with and Gary Rice, who you've interviewed LB. She's

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Speaker 4: a friend of the pod and they were talking about

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Speaker 4: and Goary's reaction to mean girls like. She also interviewed

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Speaker 4: her mum, which I thought was really interesting, so brilliant episode.

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Speaker 4: We will link that in our show notes. Otherwise, we

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Speaker 4: will see you back here in your podcast feed at

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Speaker 4: three pm tour Bye bye, Lan