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Speaker 1: So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to the spill your daily pop culture Fixed.

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Speaker 4: I'm em Burnham and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Cassena Luku my god.

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Speaker 3: I love it when we're podcasting. We hardly ever podcast again.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's usually me and Laura or

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Speaker 1: me and Laura and Laura. So it is nice to

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Speaker 1: do a show together, and particularly today because today we

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Speaker 1: are doing a brutally honest review of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and boy do I have a lot to say.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: We love our brutally honest reviews. I feel like everyone

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Speaker 3: loves our brutally honest reviews the most. Can I say

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Speaker 3: that this on Weekend Watch? I feel like big contenders

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Speaker 3: for us. But brutally honest reviews is basically we usually

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Speaker 3: wait a week after a particular TV show or movie

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Speaker 3: has come out just to make sure everyone watched it

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Speaker 3: and everyone's digested so we can give our hard hitting thoughts.

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Speaker 3: They're always spoilers in these reviews, so if you haven't

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Speaker 3: watched America's Sweethearts, Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. You have to watch

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Speaker 3: it first before you listen to this episode, So pause here,

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Speaker 3: go quickly watch all seven episodes on Netflix, and then

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Speaker 3: come back and listen.

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Speaker 4: We're a part of each other's lives forever. You know

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Speaker 4: what we're going to do weddings.

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Speaker 3: You're like, when we make this team, we're gonna make

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Speaker 3: it together because we're such good friends.

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Speaker 1: But them, it doesn't always end up like that.

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Speaker 2: We are really excited that there's a lot of new girls.

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Speaker 1: Every year.

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Speaker 2: The talent just gets better and better and better.

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Speaker 1: We've always been told there's one hundred more girls. I

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Speaker 1: would love to do this job. Everyone's gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: they're just cheerleaders. We're really good cheerleaders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what costs?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I churned through it in a day.

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Speaker 4: It is so good.

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Speaker 1: I look, I'm a huge fan of these kinds of shows.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching Making a Team, which is kind of.

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Speaker 3: Look, did you watch Making a Team when it came out?

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Speaker 1: Not when it first came out. I watched it a

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Speaker 1: few years ago though, But like, I was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a fan of that before. So I knew Judy

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Speaker 1: and Kelly before. You know, this first season came out

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Speaker 1: on Netflix, which is when kind of the majority of

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Speaker 1: the world would have seen them. But you know, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that we all really love it, there are

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Speaker 1: definitely a couple of things in the show that I

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Speaker 3: Okay, good because I remember when season one came out

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Speaker 3: last year, the grip it had on society and culture

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Speaker 3: was just insane. Like everything we wrote on it here

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Speaker 3: among me, every time we spoke about it on the podcast,

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Speaker 3: people just wanted more and more and more. There were

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Speaker 3: so many storylines to dive deep into. There were so

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Speaker 3: many big takeaways from it. The biggest thing that came

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Speaker 3: for season two because I think the best thing about

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Speaker 3: season two is the success of season one has driven

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Speaker 3: a lot of the storylines for season two. We're seeing

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Speaker 3: It is just an absolute culture phenomenon, like everyone is

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Speaker 4: But let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think let's we will get into some of

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Speaker 1: the pay stuff and some of the deepest storylines. But

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Speaker 3: I've seen some clips of making the team on TikTok

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Speaker 1: And I think they're doing this on purpose because of

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Speaker 1: In season two, no making the team. This is year

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Speaker 1: So season two, there's no one outwardly saying you need

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Speaker 1: I remember being told they loved you, they just need

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Speaker 1: I've been told, oh, you look like you just ate

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Speaker 1: really shapely. We just really want the girls to fuel

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Speaker 1: their bodies. Yeah, And it's so passive aggressive because they

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Speaker 1: watching these poor girls who are all incredibly talented athletes,

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Speaker 1: like they are scrutinized within an inch of their lives.

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Speaker 3: I always see it when in the scenes, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of season two is like the structure is very

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Speaker 3: repetitive of season one in the sense where the first

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Speaker 3: So it's the same pattern, but I think season two

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Speaker 3: they do that, a specific episode of where they're trying

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Speaker 3: No shots, no way those shorts will fit on like

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Speaker 1: You know What's interesting though, if you went back, if

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Speaker 1: watching making a Team. I don't think it's on any

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Speaker 1: But it's so much better now. And I know you're

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Speaker 1: Like that's in twenty teens because they've got more athletic

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Speaker 1: the early seasons of making the team. Isn't that insane?

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Speaker 4: That is actually insane.

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Speaker 1: Because from our perspective, you would look at those goals

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Speaker 1: and go, they've all got perfect bodies. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you right now that the standards that they had

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Speaker 3: You want to have those standards and they just can't

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Speaker 1: I can tell you right now they do say it,

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Speaker 1: but they don't say it went in front of the

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Speaker 1: guess that's all of this to say, even though they're

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Speaker 1: Kelly being like, we really want the girls to fuel

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Speaker 1: and nutrition. Those are all coded words of if you

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Speaker 1: don't fit into your uniform, you're gonna be a cup

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Speaker 1: from a team.

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Speaker 1: I can almost I don't know if they still do

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Speaker 3: many women with alopecia. There are so many young girls

435
00:20:47,064 --> 00:20:50,304
Speaker 3: with alopecia who feel like, if you have a condition,

436
00:20:50,824 --> 00:20:53,304
Speaker 3: you can't do certain things. And I think she's proof

437
00:20:53,384 --> 00:20:55,464
Speaker 3: that you can. And it was just such It was

438
00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:59,304
Speaker 3: just such a well done tie in. But yeah, I

439
00:20:59,344 --> 00:21:01,904
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of the stuff that happened last season,

440
00:21:02,184 --> 00:21:05,744
Speaker 3: in particular, they've tried to address it this season, and

441
00:21:05,824 --> 00:21:09,104
Speaker 3: one of the big things that they went over this

442
00:21:09,184 --> 00:21:10,824
Speaker 3: season was the pay.

443
00:21:12,064 --> 00:21:15,624
Speaker 1: Now again, it's like this kind of passive aggressive way

444
00:21:15,624 --> 00:21:17,864
Speaker 1: that they're trying to address it without actually addressing it.

445
00:21:17,864 --> 00:21:20,064
Speaker 1: It's like because Judy and Kelly, you know, they can't

446
00:21:20,064 --> 00:21:22,224
Speaker 1: talk about it. You know, they've been specifically told by

447
00:21:22,264 --> 00:21:26,544
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, the HEADHN shows, they have been specifically

448
00:21:26,544 --> 00:21:30,304
Speaker 1: told you cannot talk to Netflix about the girl's pay.

449
00:21:30,504 --> 00:21:30,944
Speaker 4: Yeah.

450
00:21:30,984 --> 00:21:33,424
Speaker 1: The way that they tried to be like, look at

451
00:21:33,464 --> 00:21:37,104
Speaker 1: all these perks that one episode where they talk through

452
00:21:37,144 --> 00:21:40,224
Speaker 1: after all they've made the team, they do like this sponsorship.

453
00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:42,784
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like a little like it was like

454
00:21:42,824 --> 00:21:44,184
Speaker 3: a series of presentation.

455
00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:46,064
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a presentation of this is what you

456
00:21:46,064 --> 00:21:47,904
Speaker 1: can get from us. You get free hair from us,

457
00:21:47,904 --> 00:21:50,344
Speaker 1: you can get free spray tands, you can so and

458
00:21:50,384 --> 00:21:53,144
Speaker 1: their boat are free botox, free fellers. All we ask

459
00:21:53,264 --> 00:21:56,144
Speaker 1: is that you tag us on socials And they have

460
00:21:56,264 --> 00:21:59,784
Speaker 1: this little like clip with one of the girls standing

461
00:21:59,824 --> 00:22:04,944
Speaker 1: there and they pan up heer and it goes to

462
00:22:04,984 --> 00:22:08,264
Speaker 1: show all the sponsors, all the sponsors, and Kelly's going,

463
00:22:08,944 --> 00:22:11,464
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like it's I'm not I was

464
00:22:11,504 --> 00:22:14,464
Speaker 1: gonna try and do this Southern accent and a chickened

465
00:22:14,464 --> 00:22:17,104
Speaker 1: out and I literally said it out loud when I

466
00:22:17,144 --> 00:22:19,064
Speaker 1: was watching it. She's going, you know, these girls they

467
00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:22,264
Speaker 1: get like so many Now this is California, Okay, I'm

468
00:22:22,304 --> 00:22:24,824
Speaker 1: not going to do it. These girls they get all

469
00:22:24,864 --> 00:22:27,224
Speaker 1: of these perks, like this is one of the great

470
00:22:27,544 --> 00:22:30,424
Speaker 1: things about being a Dallas Cowboys chillad. You get fitness,

471
00:22:30,464 --> 00:22:33,664
Speaker 1: you can make up, like look nails, everything. Back in

472
00:22:33,704 --> 00:22:35,264
Speaker 1: my day, you didn't even get any of that. We

473
00:22:35,304 --> 00:22:37,384
Speaker 1: had to pay for all of it. And it's expensive.

474
00:22:38,064 --> 00:22:41,184
Speaker 1: And I literally screamed at the TV, but that doesn't

475
00:22:41,184 --> 00:22:44,624
Speaker 1: pay their rent, Like I screamed at the TV. And

476
00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:46,744
Speaker 1: then it wasn't until like two episodes later that I

477
00:22:46,784 --> 00:22:49,864
Speaker 1: think it was either Armani or Jada was like, it's

478
00:22:49,904 --> 00:22:51,304
Speaker 1: great that we get all these things, but it doesn't

479
00:22:51,304 --> 00:22:51,864
Speaker 1: pay my rent.

480
00:22:52,184 --> 00:22:55,464
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And we saw later on in

481
00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:59,744
Speaker 3: the show pay being quite important to the girls, especially

482
00:22:59,824 --> 00:23:02,904
Speaker 3: the veterans. And this was off the back of season

483
00:23:02,984 --> 00:23:06,024
Speaker 3: one where all everyone could talk about was how little

484
00:23:06,104 --> 00:23:08,704
Speaker 3: these girls were being paid. And a big part of

485
00:23:08,704 --> 00:23:13,584
Speaker 3: season one was the head honchos of DCC saying their

486
00:23:13,624 --> 00:23:16,864
Speaker 3: payment is getting to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader's for

487
00:23:16,904 --> 00:23:18,264
Speaker 3: the honor of it. It's for the honor of it.

488
00:23:18,304 --> 00:23:21,704
Speaker 2: They're not paid a lot, but the facts are is

489
00:23:21,704 --> 00:23:24,704
Speaker 2: that they actually don't come here for the money.

490
00:23:24,744 --> 00:23:26,904
Speaker 1: They come here for something that's actually bigger than that.

491
00:23:27,184 --> 00:23:30,424
Speaker 2: To them. They have a passion for dance. There are

492
00:23:30,504 --> 00:23:33,224
Speaker 2: not a lot of opportunities in the field of dance

493
00:23:33,504 --> 00:23:37,064
Speaker 2: and to get to perform at an elite level, it

494
00:23:37,144 --> 00:23:40,424
Speaker 2: is about being a part of something bigger than themselves.

495
00:23:40,464 --> 00:23:42,584
Speaker 3: And we found out that that mascot gets paid more

496
00:23:42,624 --> 00:23:45,824
Speaker 3: than them. That the football players are on millions and

497
00:23:45,864 --> 00:23:48,704
Speaker 3: millions and millions of dollars, and these girls are getting

498
00:23:48,704 --> 00:23:51,264
Speaker 3: paid pennies to the point where they have to sustain

499
00:23:51,304 --> 00:23:54,304
Speaker 3: themselves by finding other work. Don't forget that a lot

500
00:23:54,304 --> 00:23:57,344
Speaker 3: of these girls move to Texas for this job, so

501
00:23:57,384 --> 00:24:00,224
Speaker 3: then they have to find another job in a new town. Yeah,

502
00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:01,624
Speaker 3: to have sustain themselves.

503
00:24:01,664 --> 00:24:04,224
Speaker 1: Again, it really gets me because it's like for the

504
00:24:04,224 --> 00:24:06,784
Speaker 1: honor of it. And again I'm going to tie this

505
00:24:06,864 --> 00:24:09,424
Speaker 1: back to modeling because I had this experience many times

506
00:24:09,464 --> 00:24:11,704
Speaker 1: when I would when I was working in magazines like

507
00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:14,744
Speaker 1: for magazine covers. I did a number of like these

508
00:24:14,824 --> 00:24:18,064
Speaker 1: like covers back in the day, one hundred and fifty

509
00:24:18,104 --> 00:24:20,544
Speaker 1: dollars for the whole day for a cover, after tax,

510
00:24:20,584 --> 00:24:22,664
Speaker 1: commission all of that, I think I ended up with

511
00:24:22,664 --> 00:24:25,784
Speaker 1: like fifty dollars. Yeah, and that hadn't changed for twenty years.

512
00:24:26,024 --> 00:24:27,944
Speaker 1: And I used to do like when I used to

513
00:24:27,984 --> 00:24:29,784
Speaker 1: do Fashion Week, some of the designers would pay you

514
00:24:29,784 --> 00:24:33,584
Speaker 1: in clothes that would be pay you contra. So like again,

515
00:24:33,664 --> 00:24:36,304
Speaker 1: it really it really pisses me off because it's like

516
00:24:36,904 --> 00:24:40,544
Speaker 1: you're not paying like all of these these The honor

517
00:24:40,584 --> 00:24:43,104
Speaker 1: of it is great, Yes, it is an honor to

518
00:24:43,144 --> 00:24:45,464
Speaker 1: be in this team. There are only a finite number

519
00:24:45,464 --> 00:24:47,184
Speaker 1: of women who have been a part of the Dallas

520
00:24:47,304 --> 00:24:50,704
Speaker 1: Cowboys cheerleaders. We know that it does not mean they

521
00:24:50,744 --> 00:24:53,664
Speaker 1: don't deserve to be paid a livable waight Nana.

522
00:24:54,864 --> 00:24:57,464
Speaker 3: There was a point in the show where we saw

523
00:24:57,704 --> 00:25:00,784
Speaker 3: a few of the veterans get together to discuss the

524
00:25:00,824 --> 00:25:04,264
Speaker 3: payment issue. It looked like it was spearheaded by Amanda

525
00:25:04,624 --> 00:25:06,944
Speaker 3: and Jada on the team and they were on the

526
00:25:07,024 --> 00:25:09,424
Speaker 3: skype call with I think there was about five of them,

527
00:25:09,504 --> 00:25:11,864
Speaker 3: and they were saying that when we get the contracts,

528
00:25:12,584 --> 00:25:15,024
Speaker 3: we're gonna dispute the pay. So before you sign, we're

529
00:25:15,024 --> 00:25:16,824
Speaker 3: going to dispute the pay. And a few of the

530
00:25:16,824 --> 00:25:20,104
Speaker 3: girls on that call also said that if they don't

531
00:25:20,104 --> 00:25:22,264
Speaker 3: get what they want, then they're willing to step down

532
00:25:22,304 --> 00:25:23,584
Speaker 3: and give their position.

533
00:25:23,224 --> 00:25:23,984
Speaker 4: To another girl.

534
00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:27,304
Speaker 3: And I think it just showed how serious that these

535
00:25:27,344 --> 00:25:29,944
Speaker 3: women take it. And not only that, but like how

536
00:25:29,984 --> 00:25:33,024
Speaker 3: bloody smart they are. Yeah, like they know their worth

537
00:25:33,064 --> 00:25:35,824
Speaker 3: and especially Jada, who's like who's always said from the

538
00:25:35,824 --> 00:25:38,064
Speaker 3: beginning of the season that she wants to do things

539
00:25:38,144 --> 00:25:40,264
Speaker 3: her way and be a leader her way. Like the

540
00:25:40,344 --> 00:25:42,904
Speaker 3: amount of care they have for the rookies, and they

541
00:25:42,904 --> 00:25:45,784
Speaker 3: want the rookies to succeed, and they were so nervous

542
00:25:45,824 --> 00:25:47,224
Speaker 3: that they didn't want the rookies to get the bad

543
00:25:47,264 --> 00:25:50,824
Speaker 3: idea because these rookies are literally working their guts off,

544
00:25:51,064 --> 00:25:53,184
Speaker 3: only to be told by veterans just letting you know,

545
00:25:53,224 --> 00:25:54,784
Speaker 3: we're doing this thing about pay. So when you get

546
00:25:54,784 --> 00:25:56,344
Speaker 3: your contracts, don't sign it.

547
00:25:56,424 --> 00:25:59,224
Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting, and again it was very

548
00:25:59,544 --> 00:26:03,624
Speaker 1: it was glossed over. When they did get their contracts,

549
00:26:04,024 --> 00:26:07,184
Speaker 1: the lawyers in HR said, well, if you don't sign it,

550
00:26:07,264 --> 00:26:09,984
Speaker 1: you're still bound by it. Yeah, so the girls actually

551
00:26:09,984 --> 00:26:11,584
Speaker 1: didn't even sign the contract.

552
00:26:11,384 --> 00:26:14,984
Speaker 3: No, and like, yeah, it's just such a messy situation,

553
00:26:15,384 --> 00:26:18,424
Speaker 3: is it is? One hundred was also highly anticipated by

554
00:26:18,424 --> 00:26:19,184
Speaker 3: the higher ups.

555
00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:22,664
Speaker 1: These higher ups, they they have capitalized on these women

556
00:26:23,224 --> 00:26:26,824
Speaker 1: from calendars to you know them selling, Like, yes, the

557
00:26:27,224 --> 00:26:30,184
Speaker 1: brand itself is iconic, but these girls make that brand

558
00:26:30,224 --> 00:26:32,424
Speaker 1: and the fact that they can't even pay them a

559
00:26:32,744 --> 00:26:38,384
Speaker 1: livable hourly pay is absolutely disgusting. I'm so so happy

560
00:26:38,384 --> 00:26:41,384
Speaker 1: that they got a four hundred percent increase.

561
00:26:41,184 --> 00:26:44,944
Speaker 3: Yes, and which was great, but it happened. We're also

562
00:26:45,064 --> 00:26:47,504
Speaker 3: while a lot of them retired, so like Jada, for example,

563
00:26:47,584 --> 00:26:50,824
Speaker 3: doesn't get that increase, but she thought for that, which

564
00:26:50,864 --> 00:26:55,224
Speaker 3: is absolutely amazing. We don't actually know how much they

565
00:26:55,224 --> 00:26:58,104
Speaker 3: are getting paid. We only know the four hundred percent

566
00:26:58,184 --> 00:27:01,064
Speaker 3: increase as reported by the New York Times, but it

567
00:27:01,184 --> 00:27:03,464
Speaker 3: just shows I think they were aiming for like seventy

568
00:27:03,504 --> 00:27:06,944
Speaker 3: five dollars an hour. Yeah, and it just shows like

569
00:27:07,744 --> 00:27:10,584
Speaker 3: it does work. Like and I it is really good

570
00:27:10,624 --> 00:27:13,264
Speaker 3: that after season one that everyone made a big deal

571
00:27:13,304 --> 00:27:15,144
Speaker 3: about it, Like it wasn't just these girls going we

572
00:27:15,144 --> 00:27:17,424
Speaker 3: should get paid more. It was like everyone across the

573
00:27:17,424 --> 00:27:19,384
Speaker 3: world going, yeah, you should get paid.

574
00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:21,144
Speaker 1: More, But I mean, I think it's disappointing that they

575
00:27:21,184 --> 00:27:23,704
Speaker 1: didn't even start this season off with just giving them

576
00:27:23,704 --> 00:27:26,704
Speaker 1: more money. And what I did notice is that Charlotte

577
00:27:26,704 --> 00:27:28,584
Speaker 1: didn't do any talking heads this season.

578
00:27:28,984 --> 00:27:30,624
Speaker 3: She came in for like two sets, like we saw

579
00:27:30,704 --> 00:27:31,384
Speaker 3: her for two seconds, but.

580
00:27:31,464 --> 00:27:35,264
Speaker 1: She didn't do like any piece cameras, whereas last season

581
00:27:35,424 --> 00:27:38,184
Speaker 1: season one she did. And I think it's because she

582
00:27:38,264 --> 00:27:42,384
Speaker 1: got so much backclash from season one because she was

583
00:27:42,384 --> 00:27:44,744
Speaker 1: talking about what an honor it is, and then season

584
00:27:44,784 --> 00:27:46,624
Speaker 1: two she's not really in it. The only time that

585
00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,544
Speaker 1: she comes in it is during the judging and then

586
00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:51,984
Speaker 1: also to announce that these are the girls that have

587
00:27:52,024 --> 00:27:52,864
Speaker 1: made the team.

588
00:27:52,944 --> 00:27:56,504
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so interesting. I feel like what really stuck

589
00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:59,864
Speaker 3: with me in terms of like the payment for all

590
00:27:59,904 --> 00:28:02,264
Speaker 3: of this is literally right at the end of the

591
00:28:02,344 --> 00:28:06,624
Speaker 3: last episode where they've finished the whole season and they

592
00:28:06,744 --> 00:28:09,064
Speaker 3: make this so dramatic, but they come into a room

593
00:28:09,544 --> 00:28:12,104
Speaker 3: with Judy Kelly sitting there and they kind of like

594
00:28:12,384 --> 00:28:15,304
Speaker 3: so each girl recaps and reflects their season, and then

595
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:18,304
Speaker 3: she decides whether she wants to audition for the next season,

596
00:28:18,584 --> 00:28:20,344
Speaker 3: and if she wants to audition for the next season.

597
00:28:20,344 --> 00:28:23,064
Speaker 3: Then she takes her Dallas Cowboys cheerlead this uniform and

598
00:28:23,104 --> 00:28:25,264
Speaker 3: puts it on the left rack. If she doesn't want

599
00:28:25,264 --> 00:28:27,064
Speaker 3: to audition for the season, she takes a uniform and

600
00:28:27,104 --> 00:28:30,104
Speaker 3: puts it on the right rack. And Amanda, who was

601
00:28:30,224 --> 00:28:33,544
Speaker 3: part of the whole let's get paid more, kind of

602
00:28:33,544 --> 00:28:37,104
Speaker 3: threw a spanner in the works and basically said, I

603
00:28:37,184 --> 00:28:40,224
Speaker 3: don't feel valued here. I know I'm valued more than this,

604
00:28:40,384 --> 00:28:42,024
Speaker 3: and I just don't feel it here, So I'm not

605
00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:45,984
Speaker 3: gonna come back. And Juny and Kelly were like, Okay,

606
00:28:46,464 --> 00:28:48,824
Speaker 3: they were so shocked you could tell they were fuming

607
00:28:48,824 --> 00:28:49,424
Speaker 3: on the inside.

608
00:28:49,504 --> 00:28:52,504
Speaker 1: I but again, I know this is the thing. So

609
00:28:52,584 --> 00:28:55,424
Speaker 1: Kelly and Judy, I don't doubt that they care about

610
00:28:55,464 --> 00:28:57,984
Speaker 1: these girls. I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that.

611
00:28:58,624 --> 00:29:00,664
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Kelly and Judy are getting paid

612
00:29:00,744 --> 00:29:03,264
Speaker 1: as much as what people think they are and.

613
00:29:03,384 --> 00:29:05,064
Speaker 4: Not getting paid as much as Charlote Jones is.

614
00:29:05,024 --> 00:29:08,184
Speaker 1: Getting no exactly, Like, Kelly's house was very modest, Like

615
00:29:08,224 --> 00:29:09,984
Speaker 1: it was a lovely home, but it was a modest

616
00:29:09,984 --> 00:29:13,224
Speaker 1: home considering she's been heading up the Dallas Cowboys cheer

617
00:29:13,264 --> 00:29:16,224
Speaker 1: leaders for what thirty years or something. Like she's been

618
00:29:16,224 --> 00:29:18,504
Speaker 1: a part of the organization for a long time. I

619
00:29:18,544 --> 00:29:21,104
Speaker 1: don't think she's on like crazy, crazy money. I'm sure

620
00:29:21,104 --> 00:29:22,624
Speaker 1: she's doing just fine.

621
00:29:23,104 --> 00:29:25,304
Speaker 3: You can also hear some annoyance in their voices because

622
00:29:25,304 --> 00:29:27,984
Speaker 3: they were Dallas Cowboys tats.

623
00:29:27,344 --> 00:29:30,224
Speaker 1: And it's almost like a it's like, I did it

624
00:29:30,224 --> 00:29:31,904
Speaker 1: for the love of it. You have no idea? How

625
00:29:31,904 --> 00:29:34,744
Speaker 1: about it was when I and I hate that. I

626
00:29:34,824 --> 00:29:38,384
Speaker 1: don't like that justification of things because the whole point

627
00:29:38,424 --> 00:29:41,624
Speaker 1: of things is that we learn and grow and improve. Yeah, right,

628
00:29:42,344 --> 00:29:45,424
Speaker 1: we should look at that as a society and go,

629
00:29:45,624 --> 00:29:49,304
Speaker 1: these girls deserve more. They deserve more than fifty bucks.

630
00:29:49,344 --> 00:29:53,104
Speaker 1: Again they do that is insane. And to think about

631
00:29:53,104 --> 00:29:55,064
Speaker 1: what they're putting their bodies through, Like think about those

632
00:29:55,144 --> 00:29:57,104
Speaker 1: jump splits that they're doing. Almost all of them have

633
00:29:57,184 --> 00:29:59,344
Speaker 1: like hip issues, knee issues, joint problems.

634
00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:03,904
Speaker 3: We're all hobbling into that. Shandy wasn't like a cushy.

635
00:30:03,424 --> 00:30:04,984
Speaker 1: Was in like a full hip thing with this.

636
00:30:05,144 --> 00:30:06,104
Speaker 3: She was on crutches.

637
00:30:07,584 --> 00:30:10,104
Speaker 1: Like these women are putting their bodies through a lot.

638
00:30:10,624 --> 00:30:12,584
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really passionate about it because it really

639
00:30:12,584 --> 00:30:15,024
Speaker 1: bothers me because it reminds me I have been told

640
00:30:15,144 --> 00:30:19,584
Speaker 1: so many times in this like entertainment industry, modeling industry,

641
00:30:19,664 --> 00:30:21,664
Speaker 1: you should be grateful. Do you have any people would

642
00:30:21,704 --> 00:30:23,864
Speaker 1: want to be in your position? No one sense that's

643
00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:24,704
Speaker 1: to a man.

644
00:30:24,544 --> 00:30:26,384
Speaker 3: That's so true, And I does say that to a man,

645
00:30:26,424 --> 00:30:27,944
Speaker 3: except for the mascot, we're saying.

646
00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:28,064
Speaker 4: It to you.

647
00:30:28,264 --> 00:30:31,584
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't deserve what you're getting paid, your aman hat.

648
00:30:32,424 --> 00:30:35,704
Speaker 3: I think also with the whole pay thing, a big

649
00:30:35,744 --> 00:30:37,624
Speaker 3: part of the push that they were able to get

650
00:30:37,624 --> 00:30:40,784
Speaker 3: that four hundred percent pay increase was because of the

651
00:30:40,824 --> 00:30:44,944
Speaker 3: public perception of that entire show. And we also saw

652
00:30:45,064 --> 00:30:49,464
Speaker 3: in season two that the publicity of season one really

653
00:30:49,624 --> 00:30:52,424
Speaker 3: changed the formatting of what it takes to be a

654
00:30:52,504 --> 00:30:55,384
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. What I found really interesting was right

655
00:30:55,384 --> 00:30:58,464
Speaker 3: in the beginning, before we even saw the auditions, they

656
00:30:58,504 --> 00:31:01,344
Speaker 3: were saying that they had twelve spots to fill in

657
00:31:01,384 --> 00:31:03,464
Speaker 3: for rookies, which was the biggest amount of rookies they

658
00:31:03,504 --> 00:31:06,264
Speaker 3: had to fill in in the past five years. And

659
00:31:06,304 --> 00:31:08,304
Speaker 3: then later in the season you find out that a

660
00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:11,384
Speaker 3: lot of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders lot, but there's a

661
00:31:11,544 --> 00:31:15,144
Speaker 3: fair few have actually left being a cheerleader to pursue

662
00:31:15,304 --> 00:31:17,064
Speaker 3: other things like influencing.

663
00:31:17,184 --> 00:31:18,264
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now a lot.

664
00:31:18,104 --> 00:31:20,064
Speaker 3: Of these girls who have to have a part time

665
00:31:20,144 --> 00:31:23,304
Speaker 3: job on top of being a cheerleader have taken up influencing.

666
00:31:23,664 --> 00:31:26,224
Speaker 1: And that's great because we know that like again, like.

667
00:31:26,224 --> 00:31:28,984
Speaker 3: Reese has her cooking channels like good on her, get

668
00:31:29,024 --> 00:31:31,424
Speaker 3: that bad girl like you just serve that, and that's

669
00:31:31,464 --> 00:31:33,424
Speaker 3: going to be a lot easier for them to tie

670
00:31:33,544 --> 00:31:37,544
Speaker 3: in with their commitments at Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders than you know,

671
00:31:37,624 --> 00:31:40,864
Speaker 3: a typical nine to five. And what's really interesting is

672
00:31:40,944 --> 00:31:44,504
Speaker 3: seeing Judy and Kelly trying to navigate this newfound fame

673
00:31:45,104 --> 00:31:47,384
Speaker 3: for their cheerleaders because the rules of being a Dallas

674
00:31:47,384 --> 00:31:50,544
Speaker 3: Cowboys cheerleader hasn't changed regardless of how famous they are.

675
00:31:50,584 --> 00:31:53,464
Speaker 3: Like we saw little snippets of girls being cut because

676
00:31:53,504 --> 00:31:55,784
Speaker 3: of what they've been posting on their Instagram and things

677
00:31:55,784 --> 00:31:58,384
Speaker 3: like they have to now manage these girls reaching this

678
00:31:58,544 --> 00:32:02,264
Speaker 3: new found fame, and I think that really came to

679
00:32:02,424 --> 00:32:04,984
Speaker 3: lights during the Bahamas trip.

680
00:32:05,264 --> 00:32:07,784
Speaker 1: These few episodes were very like there was the whole

681
00:32:07,824 --> 00:32:10,984
Speaker 1: Bahamas storyline with Shandy, So basically they all go to

682
00:32:11,224 --> 00:32:15,024
Speaker 1: the Bahamas to have this you know, it's like a

683
00:32:15,104 --> 00:32:17,944
Speaker 1: vacation for the whole teape and it's like a treat

684
00:32:18,064 --> 00:32:19,864
Speaker 1: to the girls. Again, you're so lucky you get to

685
00:32:19,864 --> 00:32:21,264
Speaker 1: go to the Bahamas, but we're not going to pay

686
00:32:21,264 --> 00:32:23,864
Speaker 1: you any money Anyway, they go to the Bahamas, they're

687
00:32:23,864 --> 00:32:24,984
Speaker 1: all having this wonderful time.

688
00:32:25,064 --> 00:32:26,984
Speaker 3: They're all posting on the station, they're all posting.

689
00:32:26,744 --> 00:32:29,104
Speaker 1: On these socials, and then all of a sudden, Shandy's

690
00:32:29,144 --> 00:32:30,224
Speaker 1: taking a leave of absence.

691
00:32:30,584 --> 00:32:32,784
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you see this shot of them on

692
00:32:32,824 --> 00:32:34,984
Speaker 3: the bus ride back and they're all just like sad

693
00:32:35,024 --> 00:32:36,144
Speaker 3: and solemn.

694
00:32:35,744 --> 00:32:37,464
Speaker 1: And there was just like this kind of cat and

695
00:32:37,544 --> 00:32:39,064
Speaker 1: then it was like she's taking a leave of it.

696
00:32:39,184 --> 00:32:41,064
Speaker 4: Everyone's like, something happened at the Bahamas.

697
00:32:41,344 --> 00:32:43,344
Speaker 1: Can you explain it to me? Because even now, like

698
00:32:43,384 --> 00:32:46,064
Speaker 1: I understand what happened, but I don't really. I'm also,

699
00:32:46,864 --> 00:32:48,344
Speaker 1: she had a boy in her room.

700
00:32:48,264 --> 00:32:51,704
Speaker 3: So there's a few things that happened. So Shandy is

701
00:32:51,904 --> 00:32:54,824
Speaker 3: one of my favorite people in this show. I feel

702
00:32:54,824 --> 00:32:57,864
Speaker 3: like she's been through so much. She was so honest

703
00:32:58,024 --> 00:33:01,624
Speaker 3: about opening up about her history. She had an ex

704
00:33:01,704 --> 00:33:05,744
Speaker 3: partner that she alleged physically abused her while she was

705
00:33:05,744 --> 00:33:08,344
Speaker 3: a DCC, Like she said that she was showing up

706
00:33:08,384 --> 00:33:12,784
Speaker 3: with bruises on her. She's come from such an upsetting,

707
00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,384
Speaker 3: traumatic place, and the fact that she's still able to

708
00:33:15,464 --> 00:33:17,784
Speaker 3: do this and also be a team leader and do

709
00:33:17,864 --> 00:33:19,944
Speaker 3: it well is just outstanding to me.

710
00:33:20,384 --> 00:33:23,144
Speaker 1: She you know, she she came from she was adopted

711
00:33:23,304 --> 00:33:26,224
Speaker 1: into her family, her parents split up, then her dad

712
00:33:26,304 --> 00:33:28,424
Speaker 1: just basically said, I don't want to have anything to

713
00:33:28,424 --> 00:33:32,504
Speaker 1: do with you anymore, like so awful.

714
00:33:32,624 --> 00:33:36,424
Speaker 3: She's had like an awful, awful time growing up. And

715
00:33:36,904 --> 00:33:39,624
Speaker 3: this Bahamas trip, so this was meant to be like

716
00:33:39,704 --> 00:33:42,464
Speaker 3: kind of like a teen get together, a big trip

717
00:33:42,584 --> 00:33:45,584
Speaker 3: for the girls only, and she goes on this trip,

718
00:33:45,704 --> 00:33:47,944
Speaker 3: and what happened is that she was talking about her

719
00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:51,424
Speaker 3: relationship a lot, and she was saying how because of

720
00:33:51,464 --> 00:33:53,624
Speaker 3: like everything that's happened with her, like it is a

721
00:33:53,664 --> 00:33:57,224
Speaker 3: hard relationship. So both her and a partner decided to separate,

722
00:33:57,304 --> 00:34:00,664
Speaker 3: to split up. This wasn't known before we found out

723
00:34:00,704 --> 00:34:03,024
Speaker 3: about the Bahamas trip, but she said it. During the

724
00:34:03,024 --> 00:34:05,144
Speaker 3: Bahamas trip, she said she met a guy that she

725
00:34:05,224 --> 00:34:08,344
Speaker 3: got on really really well with and she brought him

726
00:34:08,424 --> 00:34:10,984
Speaker 3: back up to her hotel room. She said, nothing happened,

727
00:34:11,024 --> 00:34:12,144
Speaker 3: they just like talked a lot.

728
00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,504
Speaker 1: Still like but still she's a twenty five year oldl She.

729
00:34:14,584 --> 00:34:17,144
Speaker 3: Brought this man backed up to a hotel room. That

730
00:34:17,424 --> 00:34:21,784
Speaker 3: was the biggest scandal of the season. Like what it

731
00:34:21,824 --> 00:34:23,024
Speaker 3: was like, I said.

732
00:34:22,744 --> 00:34:24,784
Speaker 1: It, I get into like a certain extent if there's

733
00:34:24,784 --> 00:34:27,224
Speaker 1: another girl in there that you're like, But haven't you

734
00:34:27,264 --> 00:34:29,544
Speaker 1: guys ever been in a KENTICKI trip because way wild

735
00:34:29,664 --> 00:34:30,024
Speaker 1: than that.

736
00:34:30,584 --> 00:34:32,784
Speaker 3: I think it was the fact that I don't know,

737
00:34:32,864 --> 00:34:34,824
Speaker 3: I feel like when you go on these girls, firstly,

738
00:34:34,864 --> 00:34:37,184
Speaker 3: it's a work trip for them essentially, and it's like

739
00:34:37,264 --> 00:34:40,384
Speaker 3: all girls, a lot of them are married in long

740
00:34:40,464 --> 00:34:43,744
Speaker 3: term partnerships, and I think it's when you're mixing those

741
00:34:43,864 --> 00:34:46,224
Speaker 3: girls with like and also a lot of them are

742
00:34:46,384 --> 00:34:50,904
Speaker 3: like the born bred Texas girl, very Christian, very Christian,

743
00:34:51,184 --> 00:34:54,144
Speaker 3: very conservative, very conservative, and I think when you're mixing

744
00:34:54,224 --> 00:34:57,024
Speaker 3: that type of girl with the girl who's like freshly single,

745
00:34:57,104 --> 00:35:00,704
Speaker 3: who meets someone who's like looking for an escapism, it clashes.

746
00:35:00,904 --> 00:35:01,264
Speaker 1: Yeah.

747
00:35:01,304 --> 00:35:04,504
Speaker 3: And one of the biggest rules for these trips was

748
00:35:04,544 --> 00:35:08,744
Speaker 3: like you can't let strangers into the hotels, into your

749
00:35:08,744 --> 00:35:11,664
Speaker 3: bedrooms because you're also like share sharing rooms with other girls.

750
00:35:11,504 --> 00:35:13,064
Speaker 4: And stuff like that, because I don't get paid to

751
00:35:13,104 --> 00:35:14,024
Speaker 4: the sharing rooms.

752
00:35:14,264 --> 00:35:17,824
Speaker 3: And I think it was extra important that she didn't

753
00:35:17,864 --> 00:35:20,464
Speaker 3: do something like this now because they are much more

754
00:35:20,504 --> 00:35:23,184
Speaker 3: famous now, so people know who they are. So if

755
00:35:23,224 --> 00:35:25,584
Speaker 3: you were to bring a stranger into your room, there

756
00:35:25,664 --> 00:35:28,144
Speaker 3: might be a possibility that they actually know who you are,

757
00:35:28,184 --> 00:35:30,704
Speaker 3: and it could get a bit like dangerous for the women.

758
00:35:30,744 --> 00:35:32,864
Speaker 3: So I see the danger aspect of that bringing a

759
00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:35,544
Speaker 3: man into a room that are like full of young women.

760
00:35:36,424 --> 00:35:39,704
Speaker 3: I did think they overdramatized it because she was suspended

761
00:35:39,744 --> 00:35:42,744
Speaker 3: for a bit, and then when she was suspended, kay

762
00:35:42,744 --> 00:35:45,744
Speaker 3: Diana took her spot as team leader. Now it's very

763
00:35:45,784 --> 00:35:47,904
Speaker 3: obvious who the team leaders are because they're at the

764
00:35:47,944 --> 00:35:50,864
Speaker 3: forefront of the pyramids, the point of the triangle, the

765
00:35:50,904 --> 00:35:53,304
Speaker 3: point of the triangle. So what happened here and this

766
00:35:53,344 --> 00:35:56,144
Speaker 3: is what we saw blow up last year because this

767
00:35:56,704 --> 00:36:00,344
Speaker 3: what we're seeing now on DCC is actually last season's

768
00:36:00,744 --> 00:36:03,584
Speaker 3: kind of team twenty four. So when this happened last year,

769
00:36:03,584 --> 00:36:06,624
Speaker 3: I just remember like socials, like my instagram read it

770
00:36:07,064 --> 00:36:10,264
Speaker 3: just comments and comments and comments on like the DCC

771
00:36:10,424 --> 00:36:13,264
Speaker 3: instagram of going what happened to Shandy? Where is Shandy?

772
00:36:13,424 --> 00:36:13,904
Speaker 4: She injured?

773
00:36:13,944 --> 00:36:16,304
Speaker 3: What happened? Because no one actually addressed it. And I

774
00:36:16,344 --> 00:36:19,504
Speaker 3: also think this is quite shitty for Ka Deana as well,

775
00:36:19,824 --> 00:36:22,704
Speaker 3: because she got pushed into being like a team leader

776
00:36:23,024 --> 00:36:26,544
Speaker 3: without the DCC team even addressing why she's a team

777
00:36:26,584 --> 00:36:28,544
Speaker 3: leader or why it's not Shandy And this is meant

778
00:36:28,584 --> 00:36:31,184
Speaker 3: to be a career defining moment for her, and all

779
00:36:31,184 --> 00:36:33,344
Speaker 3: the comments about her are just wear Shandy.

780
00:36:33,424 --> 00:36:37,024
Speaker 1: And by the way, apart from that last episode, she

781
00:36:37,184 --> 00:36:39,104
Speaker 1: wasn't in this season.

782
00:36:39,224 --> 00:36:42,064
Speaker 3: No, she wasn't classic at all classic.

783
00:36:42,104 --> 00:36:43,904
Speaker 1: So it was all of a sudden she popped up

784
00:36:43,904 --> 00:36:45,904
Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, you're not she's no longer

785
00:36:45,904 --> 00:36:47,424
Speaker 1: a DCC and I'm leaving.

786
00:36:47,704 --> 00:36:50,584
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it was so weird. Okay, so this was

787
00:36:50,624 --> 00:36:54,344
Speaker 3: all happening. And then what happened last year was like,

788
00:36:54,424 --> 00:36:57,384
Speaker 3: as all this commentary was going on, Ka Deanna decided

789
00:36:57,384 --> 00:36:59,504
Speaker 3: to go on TikTok Live and to just like do

790
00:36:59,584 --> 00:37:01,424
Speaker 3: like a bit of a Q and A. One of

791
00:37:01,424 --> 00:37:05,144
Speaker 3: the questions was what's happened to Shandy? And this is

792
00:37:05,184 --> 00:37:06,064
Speaker 3: what she said.

793
00:37:05,904 --> 00:37:09,504
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a video on that one day. One

794
00:37:09,584 --> 00:37:11,824
Speaker 1: day i will talk about the whole thing.

795
00:37:12,224 --> 00:37:14,904
Speaker 5: So the story could stuck with the breast and so

796
00:37:14,984 --> 00:37:18,264
Speaker 5: the story of course, someone screen recorded it, put it

797
00:37:18,304 --> 00:37:18,824
Speaker 5: on Reddit.

798
00:37:18,864 --> 00:37:19,624
Speaker 4: They blew it up.

799
00:37:20,944 --> 00:37:23,184
Speaker 5: I didn't even talk about Charie, never said Shandy's name.

800
00:37:23,744 --> 00:37:26,664
Speaker 3: She then said on the show, so this is now DCC.

801
00:37:26,824 --> 00:37:29,344
Speaker 3: On the show, she said, I got a call from staff.

802
00:37:29,504 --> 00:37:32,184
Speaker 3: They said I was under investigation for being a bully

803
00:37:32,184 --> 00:37:35,784
Speaker 3: and harassing. I was officially suspended. At that point, I

804
00:37:35,944 --> 00:37:38,384
Speaker 3: just told myself that I needed to take myself out

805
00:37:38,424 --> 00:37:41,224
Speaker 3: of the organization and that I needed to respect myself.

806
00:37:43,424 --> 00:37:43,784
Speaker 1: That'sright.

807
00:37:43,784 --> 00:37:45,704
Speaker 3: And she didn't get to go to the banquet, the

808
00:37:45,784 --> 00:37:47,104
Speaker 3: last thing that they all get to go.

809
00:37:47,384 --> 00:37:48,944
Speaker 1: This is where we kind of see like a little

810
00:37:48,944 --> 00:37:51,104
Speaker 1: bit of Kelly and Judy's favoritism.

811
00:37:51,184 --> 00:37:52,504
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you reckon.

812
00:37:52,664 --> 00:37:55,904
Speaker 1: Oh and this is nothing against Shandy, Like, yeah, I

813
00:37:55,944 --> 00:37:59,704
Speaker 1: think she's divine, beautiful, well deserving to where she is. Like,

814
00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:02,304
Speaker 1: I understand what Judy says when she says she needs

815
00:38:02,304 --> 00:38:04,504
Speaker 1: a hug and she needs a bit more like I

816
00:38:04,584 --> 00:38:07,504
Speaker 1: am not putting any of that on her. I do

817
00:38:07,544 --> 00:38:10,224
Speaker 1: feel like Katie Anna probably feels like they are favorites

818
00:38:10,384 --> 00:38:11,984
Speaker 1: in the group. They're thirty six girls.

819
00:38:12,064 --> 00:38:13,864
Speaker 3: This is gonna be favor And she was also crying

820
00:38:13,904 --> 00:38:16,504
Speaker 3: as she said that, like she was so heartbroken that

821
00:38:16,504 --> 00:38:20,784
Speaker 3: she got suspended yeah, for not even like saying Shandy's name,

822
00:38:20,784 --> 00:38:23,384
Speaker 3: but also just all she did in that video to me,

823
00:38:23,904 --> 00:38:25,624
Speaker 3: she was just stand up for us up. And she

824
00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:28,984
Speaker 3: even said on DCC that she felt like Shandy got

825
00:38:28,984 --> 00:38:31,984
Speaker 3: all the perks of being a team leader while I

826
00:38:32,024 --> 00:38:34,704
Speaker 3: got all the work, because being a team leader is

827
00:38:34,784 --> 00:38:36,624
Speaker 3: so so hard. And but I think Shandy did a

828
00:38:36,624 --> 00:38:39,544
Speaker 3: brilliant job as team leader. I think Katiana looking at

829
00:38:39,584 --> 00:38:42,664
Speaker 3: the routines, also did a brilliant job. And imagine like

830
00:38:43,024 --> 00:38:45,704
Speaker 3: being at the pinnacle of your career and yet all

831
00:38:45,784 --> 00:38:48,584
Speaker 3: everyone's talking about is someone else, and the company you're

832
00:38:48,624 --> 00:38:51,544
Speaker 3: working for is refusing to address it. They're like laying

833
00:38:51,624 --> 00:38:54,144
Speaker 3: everything on you. So you just go on TikTok and

834
00:38:54,184 --> 00:38:56,624
Speaker 3: you say one day I will talk about it, and

835
00:38:56,664 --> 00:38:59,664
Speaker 3: then you get signed off for bullying and harassment. And

836
00:38:59,904 --> 00:39:02,384
Speaker 3: we obviously don't know the full story, Like they could

837
00:39:02,624 --> 00:39:05,824
Speaker 3: be more to it, and I do you think there is?

838
00:39:06,064 --> 00:39:09,984
Speaker 1: I think they has been beef between them before. I

839
00:39:10,024 --> 00:39:13,304
Speaker 1: think that there is with this is just my speculation.

840
00:39:13,464 --> 00:39:15,504
Speaker 1: This is like I don't know anything here, but this

841
00:39:15,544 --> 00:39:18,424
Speaker 1: is how I see it. Thirty six girls and a team.

842
00:39:18,624 --> 00:39:20,104
Speaker 1: Kelly and Judy are going to have the girls that

843
00:39:20,144 --> 00:39:22,384
Speaker 1: they pick us their favorites. The girls who aren't the

844
00:39:22,504 --> 00:39:27,704
Speaker 1: favorites are going to probably have some resentment and anger

845
00:39:28,184 --> 00:39:31,344
Speaker 1: towards the girls that are the favorites because there's thirty

846
00:39:31,344 --> 00:39:33,304
Speaker 1: six of them. They're not all like sisters all the time.

847
00:39:33,304 --> 00:39:35,704
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, Like thirty six twenty

848
00:39:35,784 --> 00:39:39,104
Speaker 1: year olds. Yeah, come on, they don't all love each

849
00:39:39,144 --> 00:39:39,784
Speaker 1: other all the time.

850
00:39:39,904 --> 00:39:41,744
Speaker 3: And they how said it on the show like they

851
00:39:41,744 --> 00:39:45,184
Speaker 3: are your sisters, but it is like you're still competing.

852
00:39:44,744 --> 00:39:45,344
Speaker 4: For that spot.

853
00:39:45,424 --> 00:39:45,664
Speaker 2: Yeah.

854
00:39:45,664 --> 00:39:47,824
Speaker 3: And what I found really interesting is that we also

855
00:39:47,864 --> 00:39:52,464
Speaker 3: saw a glimpse of what Victoria's doing now. She's obviously

856
00:39:52,584 --> 00:39:55,104
Speaker 3: not a does cobis Chile. The last season we found

857
00:39:55,144 --> 00:39:56,664
Speaker 3: out that she wanted to go to New York to

858
00:39:56,704 --> 00:39:58,944
Speaker 3: pursue being a Rocket, which is I feel like would

859
00:39:58,984 --> 00:40:00,304
Speaker 3: be harder than being a DCZ.

860
00:40:00,664 --> 00:40:03,544
Speaker 1: They get paid better too, they get yeah, rockets get

861
00:40:03,544 --> 00:40:05,224
Speaker 1: paid quite like way better.

862
00:40:05,344 --> 00:40:07,104
Speaker 3: So you see her and her mum traveling to New

863
00:40:07,184 --> 00:40:09,024
Speaker 3: York for her to pursue her dream. And what I

864
00:40:09,104 --> 00:40:12,464
Speaker 3: found really interesting was her mum actually told her your

865
00:40:12,544 --> 00:40:15,624
Speaker 3: sisters didn't do their jobs because like when you're a

866
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Speaker 3: rookie in this like you're meant to kind of stay

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Speaker 3: in that like essence of DCC. You're meant to have

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Speaker 3: these women kind of like push you up and be

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Speaker 3: there for you and be your friends. And her mom

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Speaker 3: saying your sisters didn't do their job was just so

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Speaker 3: telling that she was just kind of pushed.

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Speaker 1: Out again because she wasn't a favorite, haven't you, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever did like musical theater

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Speaker 1: or anything.

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Speaker 4: At all, not for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the theater, like I remember back, you know,

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Speaker 1: my drama teacher is like there was always like a

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Speaker 1: bit of whispering whenever we had musical theater or like

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Speaker 1: shows or plays or anything, and whoever got put in

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Speaker 1: the lead, there was always one girl who was like

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Speaker 1: the drama teacher's favorite, and there was always gossipy behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes of like the other girls who didn't get

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Speaker 1: that lead role. Talking about that, but like it's very

884
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Speaker 1: much that's the vibe I'm getting. I'm I one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent think there are favorites in that group, and the

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Speaker 1: girls who aren't the favorites not that's just the ones

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Speaker 1: that haven't been seen by Netflix. So I'm not even

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Speaker 1: talking about Netflix production. I'm talking about favorites of Kelly

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Speaker 1: and Judy and maybe to a lesser extent, Charlotte, but

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Speaker 1: their favorites, like even the whole thing of like you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get picked for.

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Speaker 3: Certain things, Yeah, I think, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 1: So I think poor Katiana has been like at the

894
00:41:32,184 --> 00:41:33,864
Speaker 1: end of her tether and was like, I'm so sick

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00:41:33,904 --> 00:41:36,664
Speaker 1: of being like I'm doing all of his hard work.

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Speaker 1: Chandi's getting all of these not that she doesn't deserve it,

897
00:41:40,024 --> 00:41:40,864
Speaker 1: but like what about me?

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Speaker 4: It's so true.

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Speaker 3: And I do think after the last episode where we

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Speaker 3: saw Amanda walk out saying she doesn't feel valued here,

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Speaker 3: especially with the pay stuff, I do think if there

902
00:41:52,304 --> 00:41:54,864
Speaker 3: is going to be a season three, the stakes are

903
00:41:54,864 --> 00:41:56,904
Speaker 3: going to be so much higher because I think every

904
00:41:56,944 --> 00:41:59,664
Speaker 3: time after one of these seasons, the public just go

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00:41:59,784 --> 00:42:02,144
Speaker 3: wild over a certain thing, and then that kind of

906
00:42:02,224 --> 00:42:04,264
Speaker 3: fuels the storyline for the next season.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really important and I really hope that

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Speaker 1: through this show these girls are able to gain a

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Speaker 1: bit of power, which we have seen from season one.

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Speaker 1: Season two. You know, they still are really vulnerable. These

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Speaker 1: women are still at the bottom of the food.

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Speaker 3: Chain, and we're darker storyline.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the anxiety, the pressure, what they put

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Speaker 1: through is a lot. I really hope that after this

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Speaker 1: season they can continue to gain some of their power

916
00:42:32,744 --> 00:42:35,904
Speaker 1: because the more social media following, the more that they

917
00:42:35,984 --> 00:42:39,784
Speaker 1: have that behind them, the more ammo they have when

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00:42:39,824 --> 00:42:42,144
Speaker 1: they go into these negotiations, because you need to be

919
00:42:42,144 --> 00:42:45,344
Speaker 1: able to show value to people like this because the

920
00:42:45,464 --> 00:42:48,704
Speaker 1: higher ups see dollar signs on them. Yeah, see it

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00:42:48,784 --> 00:42:52,904
Speaker 1: that they are disposable toys to these higher ups.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I want a battle.

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Speaker 1: I again, if you get a chance, go watch Making

924
00:42:57,544 --> 00:42:59,544
Speaker 1: a Team because you'll see how much worse it was.

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Speaker 4: I can just feel myself like these.

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Speaker 1: Girls have so much more power than what the girls

927
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Speaker 1: did not even a decade ago. It was like seven

928
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Speaker 1: years ago. I highly recommend it. If you want to cringe,

929
00:43:11,904 --> 00:43:12,864
Speaker 1: watch Making the Team.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm again. I know I keep taking it back

932
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Speaker 1: to this, but it really brings back a lot of

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Speaker 1: memories of being in the modeling industry, being in the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry in my early years, and really feeling powerless

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Speaker 1: and feeling like I just had to be particularly when

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Speaker 1: I was modeling when I was like seventeen eighteen in

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Speaker 1: a room full of fully grown adults. I'm still a

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Speaker 1: teenager at this time. I'm in a room full of

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Speaker 1: fully grown adults, and I'm expected to be a good girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that is what I see in a lot

941
00:43:44,824 --> 00:43:48,344
Speaker 3: of these goals, especially the rookies, especially the rookies, and

942
00:43:49,024 --> 00:43:52,264
Speaker 3: I hope that as time progresses, they are able to

943
00:43:52,304 --> 00:43:54,264
Speaker 3: gain some of that power because they deserve it, because

944
00:43:54,264 --> 00:43:57,064
Speaker 3: they work, you can see how Yeah, And like I

945
00:43:57,104 --> 00:43:59,504
Speaker 3: think the public's push for that has just been so

946
00:43:59,584 --> 00:44:02,504
Speaker 3: good for it. But like, overall this season it's just

947
00:44:02,544 --> 00:44:05,544
Speaker 3: like such good TV. I love it, guess much the

948
00:44:05,624 --> 00:44:09,664
Speaker 3: most perfect crossover between documentary and reality TV. Like it's

949
00:44:09,704 --> 00:44:12,984
Speaker 3: just like that faked bread and butter. It's so good,

950
00:44:13,064 --> 00:44:15,864
Speaker 3: like watching these women, like and their dance routines, and

951
00:44:15,904 --> 00:44:19,264
Speaker 3: like how hard they are pushed just to make the team,

952
00:44:19,304 --> 00:44:22,264
Speaker 3: like let alone training after they become a team member,

953
00:44:22,704 --> 00:44:24,904
Speaker 3: and now they like pushed into this new style they're

954
00:44:24,904 --> 00:44:28,024
Speaker 3: performing at concerts, They're doing all of this great, great stuff.

955
00:44:28,424 --> 00:44:30,544
Speaker 3: And I just feel like season three, like it's just

956
00:44:30,584 --> 00:44:32,304
Speaker 3: gonna be bigger and better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Get Your Money's Girls, Get Your Money Girl.

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Speaker 3: American Sweethearts, Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders on Netflix, All seven episodes

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Speaker 3: are out now. Let us know what you think dm

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Speaker 3: us on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dm me, I really want to know.

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Speaker 3: Have I like?

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Speaker 1: I know, I drew It's kind of a weird parallel,

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Speaker 1: but I saw so many.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

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Speaker 3: If you want more of our brutally honest reviews, we'll

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Speaker 3: link a bunch of them in our show notes. We

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Speaker 3: love doing this. Thank you to our team, our producers

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