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Speaker 2: staying over and hasn't left and new element to this
Speaker 2: multi device thing that is happening right now. This is
Speaker 2: way and is stressed. We are looking through the remainder
Speaker 2: of your anonymous q and as on the laptop and
Speaker 2: and is on Instagram posting about us being on TikTok
Speaker 2: Live right now while we record. Because as some of
Speaker 2: you guys know, I have been a bit of a
Speaker 2: late bloomer to TikTok but have been having the garatous
Speaker 2: time and realize that going live is really fun.
Speaker 3: Oh goodness. And now my husband is oh my god,
Speaker 3: there's too many devices.
Speaker 2: Decline that I'm going to have to decline that You're
Speaker 2: going to have to text him to explain.
Speaker 3: He said, why, hello, Sarah.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, I just need to decline my husband
Speaker 2: one second.
Speaker 3: Okay. So we've been going through your questions.
Speaker 2: We will alsosly be taking some live from the beautiful
Speaker 2: TikTok Live audience who are joining us. This is a
Speaker 2: whole new world for me. But I thought I was
Speaker 2: too old for TikTok, but then I realized, actually, no
Speaker 2: one on TikTok kind of cares.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: It's so liberating. You know, you can just bebe you
Speaker 2: are it's so much fun.
Speaker 3: No, I've always loved TikTok. You know this, so you've been.
Speaker 2: Trying to peer pressure me on it for a while.
Speaker 4: In my defense, I said, go on it, and then
Speaker 4: you went on it, and then I laughed at you,
Speaker 4: and then you went off it because I laughed at you.
Speaker 4: And now you're back on it, and I fully support that,
Speaker 4: but I was laughing.
Speaker 2: Like with you. You are my most supportive friend except
Speaker 2: my first foray into the TikTok world during lockdown and
Speaker 2: I was doing dancing any yeah, like those people in their.
Speaker 3: Thirty videos are so cruy.
Speaker 2: So I literally you killed my Yeah, you were such
Speaker 2: an aja and I didn't come back on TikTok for
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: I know, I felt bad.
Speaker 4: I did really should because I'm you know, I'm so,
Speaker 4: I'm supportive of weird. I'm the weirdest person. But I
Speaker 4: think that it was It was the dance. But you
Speaker 4: can dance, which makes it sad because you can dance
Speaker 4: as in you as in like you can.
Speaker 2: Dance, So it's not as funny because I was actually trying, no,
Speaker 2: because I was actually putting myself out there questions.
Speaker 3: So guys, as you know this.
Speaker 2: Is part two of the Anonymous Q and a go
Speaker 2: back to the first episode or to the Anonymous Q
Speaker 2: and a highlight on Instagram where can see the answers
Speaker 2: we've done so far. This section is the fun one
Speaker 2: because this is the fast Fire. We've got fast Fire
Speaker 2: first and then a lifestyle section and then our normal
Speaker 2: neighborhood watch kind of run down on what's been going on.
Speaker 3: Yep, so we're gonna go straight into fast Fire. Yeah
Speaker 3: and cool.
Speaker 4: So first question, how do you say boundaries with people
Speaker 4: who ask personal questions?
Speaker 3: When are you gonna have baby?
Speaker 2: That is an amazing question, and I'm not probably the
Speaker 2: most moderate person to ask this of because I'm probably
Speaker 2: more at the open book end of the spectrum than
Speaker 2: most people's.
Speaker 3: So I don't really have those.
Speaker 2: Boundaries obviously, since I just asked people to submit anonymous
Speaker 2: questions about anything. I think the biggest thing is people
Speaker 2: often get upset when people don't respect their boundaries, but
Speaker 2: they've never communicated to them that those are their boundaries,
Speaker 2: so you kind of you know, like, I have clearly
Speaker 2: opened myself up so when people ask When people ask
Speaker 2: me personal questions, it's actually not fair for me to
Speaker 2: turn around and be like, why didn't draw the line anyway?
Speaker 3: So why are you supposed to know?
Speaker 2: So I think the biggest thing is if you don't,
Speaker 2: if you're maybe trying to conceive, or for whatever reason
Speaker 2: you don't want to be asked about when you're having
Speaker 2: your baby, I think you need to tell people. You
Speaker 2: need to tell the people around you who would be
Speaker 2: those people who will ask you, and let them know
Speaker 2: that you know, at the moment, I just don't want
Speaker 2: to talk about that topic because you can't. If they
Speaker 2: don't know, they can't know what's inside your brain. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So whatever boundaries you do set for yourself, I think
Speaker 2: first the first thing is decide where those boundaries are.
Speaker 2: How comfortable with you are you with sharing and how
Speaker 2: private do you want to be? Once you've just you
Speaker 2: need to let your people know. And then after that,
Speaker 2: if anyone kind of steps a little bit too far,
Speaker 2: you can just tell them. You can tell them in
Speaker 2: a really nice, compassionate way. Look, that's like even for me,
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty open book. But there are some things
Speaker 2: like people have asked my wage and things like that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, that's totally fair for you to ask.
Speaker 2: That's where my line is, and if you tell people gently,
Speaker 2: they generally respect what you're saying. So step one find
Speaker 2: where the boundaries are, because you know, we all have
Speaker 2: a different threshold for privacy and sharing, and then step
Speaker 2: two tell people about them and be okay with having
Speaker 2: like a bit of an awkward conversation for the sake
Speaker 2: of everyone knowing where they stand.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's fair because I think a lot of
Speaker 4: people say, ask me anything. I'm an open book, but
Speaker 4: open book is very different for many people.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean you, for example, are like, ask
Speaker 2: me about my bouse because I will answer live from
Speaker 2: the toilet.
Speaker 3: Ask me about a rector pro lapse, hemoroids.
Speaker 2: But you know, and I'm like, actually pretty open in
Speaker 2: the bottlely function area, like I've been sharing about the
Speaker 2: you know, pelviculture sound and a lot of kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But then randomly I find things like how much did
Speaker 2: you sell matromting for me?
Speaker 3: Personal that's private for me thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so random who is your best friend?
Speaker 3: You asked this question? I did not ask this question.
Speaker 2: You totally answer this question, so it has to be here.
Speaker 4: I swear, I swear, think you promise, really, I did
Speaker 4: not ask this question.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So guys, we are together a lot, and we also
Speaker 2: pre empt each other time, like when we really are
Speaker 2: like I'm easy, but one of us isn't easy, We're like, okay, pinky,
Speaker 2: promise you're actually easy. And we also have this random
Speaker 2: thing where it's like if there was an alien invasion
Speaker 2: and like aliens could overtake your body. This is a
Speaker 2: random how would we know that it was truly each other?
Speaker 2: So we have like what's it called any theft? Identity theft?
Speaker 2: We have like identity theft questions that we would ask
Speaker 2: each other that only we would not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we tid me do something weird, like I did
Speaker 4: any theft any theft, like like like really really on
Speaker 4: things like how many plush toys would I have?
Speaker 3: Each other at your front doorstep?
Speaker 4: And I tried to figure this was the real Sarah
Speaker 4: or someone's pretending to be Sarah question.
Speaker 2: So I would be like if you had more than
Speaker 2: one cold saw, what would the congregation be called? Except
Speaker 2: it's on the podcast? True, Okay, that'd be different to
Speaker 2: that one anyway time you had the hemorhoys? Yeah okay,
Speaker 2: but yeah, and is definitely my sister best friend. Nick
Speaker 2: is my best friend, Paul is my best friend. I'm
Speaker 2: very very lucky to have, like I had six bridesmaids,
Speaker 2: I'm lucky to have a really beautiful range of close
Speaker 2: loved ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have. I know, I feel like
Speaker 3: you have a lot of best maids in very different
Speaker 3: eras of your life. But it's unfair to ask me.
Speaker 3: I know, was what did you? The question I asked
Speaker 3: was how loud are your farts? You did?
Speaker 2: Are they silent but deadly? Or are they loud? And
Speaker 2: I was like, you know the.
Speaker 3: Answers to next question are you and Anne sisters? Or
Speaker 3: how do you guys know each other?
Speaker 2: Okay, well we just answer that we're not actually sisters,
Speaker 2: although people do think that all the time, which is
Speaker 2: really really sweet and that says such a nice thing
Speaker 2: about our relationship. We've done a whole episode on how
Speaker 2: we met, called the Gallantines Episode, which was on Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: and I will share the link to that because it
Speaker 2: takes an entire episode two. The story basically, I met
Speaker 2: her when she was six and she hasn't grown up
Speaker 2: much since then.
Speaker 3: But neither have I.
Speaker 2: So no, what does it say about me that my
Speaker 2: best friend's ten years old, them ten years younger than me.
Speaker 3: Well, and what does it say about you? It's like thirty.
Speaker 2: I make thirties jokes to you all the time.
Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, no, you always know you well.
Speaker 4: You do things like oh have you seen that movie?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, when was it made?
Speaker 3: My eighties?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like nineteen ninety and I'll be like it wasn't
Speaker 4: born and You're like, oh shit, But I don't think
Speaker 4: about age.
Speaker 3: You know that I'm not ages. Age is an abstract
Speaker 3: number twenty whatever. Guys.
Speaker 2: Also, I just had my first micro needling and I
Speaker 2: have no magup on because I can't for a couple
Speaker 2: of days because it was the first time. My facial
Speaker 2: lady was like, do you want to try something a
Speaker 2: little bit more like intense?
Speaker 3: And I was like, what are you saying? But you
Speaker 3: have such a good skin, what do MI so like?
Speaker 2: Just like these little fine lines and pigments, por size,
Speaker 2: all those kinds. You won't know about that for another decade,
Speaker 2: but when it comes you can.
Speaker 3: I just put up a.
Speaker 2: TikTok a couple of people ask for like a minivlog
Speaker 2: and what involves.
Speaker 3: So that just went out.
Speaker 2: Now, if anyone else is curious it's on there with
Speaker 2: all the close ups of what involved?
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, what nationality is Nick?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: My god? Okay, TikTok people?
Speaker 2: How many people are on there?
Speaker 3: Two? Seven? There's seven people on here?
Speaker 2: Can you guys guess Nick's nationality? Because no one can
Speaker 2: ever guess it's seven.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen a lot of people join,
Speaker 3: but they must join, and then I.
Speaker 2: Think it goes up, down, up down. Also, Daisy and
Speaker 2: Judy are such beautiful, loyal TikTok live joiners.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: I love them so much. Guys, what do you think
Speaker 2: Nick is? Most people say Italian, Spanish or in Isra
Speaker 2: they thought he was Israeli, and Jordan they thought he
Speaker 2: was Jordanian. Like everywhere we've been except Africa, they thought
Speaker 2: that he was from there. And most people don't guess it.
Speaker 4: Okay, So should we come back to the end of
Speaker 4: this quick far circle back?
Speaker 2: But that's unfair the podcast listeners podcast listeners. Nick is
Speaker 2: half Singaporean and half Scottish, well Scottish Australian, so most
Speaker 2: people who are Singaporean pick it from a mile away,
Speaker 2: but people who don't come from an Asian heritage often
Speaker 2: like he's definitely European. They don't see any Asian. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fascinating Nixon.
Speaker 3: I feel like Nick's gotten like Italian a lot all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time. And also the quirkiest thing, which
Speaker 2: some of you guys want to already, is that his
Speaker 2: mum is the Singaporean one and she was also adopted
Speaker 2: from Asia into Australian family. What are the chances, Daisy
Speaker 2: just said, Wow, I would never have guessed, right, right,
Speaker 2: I forget to be honest, Nick decides from his Asian
Speaker 2: when he's not swings, really when swings, but convenience whichever
Speaker 2: argument he wants to win.
Speaker 3: H pretty much.
Speaker 2: How did you know that Nick was the one oh
Speaker 2: so cute so got it thirteen years ago? I don't
Speaker 2: even remember. I think we met at a We've done
Speaker 2: this story before as well, but the short story is
Speaker 2: we met at a nightclub, so not very classy. But
Speaker 2: the fact that we did meet in that context, and
Speaker 2: then from that day, like from the next day after
Speaker 2: the first time we were together, we were together twenty
Speaker 2: four seven for four weeks in a row. I did
Speaker 2: not leave his home. The fact that we didn't get
Speaker 2: sick of each other. We still had things to talk about.
Speaker 2: We just had the same like hopes and dreams for life.
Speaker 2: It was pretty much then. But then I went on
Speaker 2: exchange pretty much twice in the first eight months. I
Speaker 2: was away from maybe six of those months to two
Speaker 2: different countries, and that was like not, you know, that
Speaker 2: was a big no no. I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to read in a relationship. I just come out
Speaker 2: of a long term relationship, so would he. And then
Speaker 2: I moved to Europe and then he turned up at
Speaker 2: the airport because he was like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't want to lose He's whipped. That's what I knew
Speaker 3: was on.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful. He turned up literally at Paris airport
Speaker 2: and was like, I'm here.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. Such romance, such romance, I love it.
Speaker 3: He's like I knew she was the one the day
Speaker 3: after I mage that's probably what he tried to propose. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember at Uni.
Speaker 2: I said no because I was like, I'm way too young.
Speaker 2: And then he didn't ask me again for like seven years.
Speaker 3: Because everybody like ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might was seven, but I was still like,
Speaker 2: was it seven, It's only been it had been by
Speaker 2: the time we got married. We got married on our
Speaker 2: ten year anniversary, which is cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen guys with double ons do about three thousand
Speaker 3: of hundred likes. I went so lovely.
Speaker 4: It's much a say I understand social media because that's
Speaker 4: my thing.
Speaker 3: I just don't. I mean, it's because you're forty.
Speaker 2: Just like anyway, So one night episode, it's an episode,
Speaker 2: this comes out.
Speaker 3: We don't know why. It's one of my other.
Speaker 2: Not going to get through these questions.
Speaker 4: Have recently met someone and feel so different to prior relationships.
Speaker 3: It feels safe, secure and happy.
Speaker 4: However, getting those scared moments of whether this is it
Speaker 4: or whether I'm swept up.
Speaker 3: In a love fog.
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful. So this was the same person who
Speaker 2: asked how I knew Nick was the one, and someone
Speaker 2: recently in the last episode asked what do you do
Speaker 2: about fear of commitment? And I would just say, if
Speaker 2: you feel safe and love the first time, Like, fear
Speaker 2: is such a controlling emotion and it can really strip
Speaker 2: you in relationships, in businesses, in careers, in anything, strip
Speaker 2: you of things that could work out really well just
Speaker 2: because you're too worried that they might not work out well.
Speaker 2: But if you're willing to acknowledge that it could go badly.
Speaker 2: You have to acknowledge it cooker really well, and you
Speaker 2: would rather try and see rather than always wonder what
Speaker 2: it is if you don't want to be the reason
Speaker 2: that it didn't do well. So I would just embrace
Speaker 2: it and see what happened.
Speaker 4: Shoot your shut shoot you TikTokers would say, my god,
Speaker 4: shoot your shut down.
Speaker 2: God, this is an alien invasion. I've never heard you
Speaker 2: speak like stress.
Speaker 3: Okay, would you.
Speaker 2: Call these slow fire? Because sorry, I'll do the Sorry,
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's take your time.
Speaker 3: How a skeleton willson? Or someone's trying to say a joke?
Speaker 2: Okay, I need to punchline and then I'll share it here.
Speaker 4: How has your relationship been with alcohol after years of
Speaker 4: not having alcohol?
Speaker 2: Really amazing question. So I didn't drink for seven years
Speaker 2: after I got a dream of fatigue, and I really
Speaker 2: just didn't keep drinking, not because I like so.
Speaker 3: I recovered after about three years.
Speaker 2: I was fully able to tolerate, you know, cough and
Speaker 2: an alcohol again. But I just didn't go back to
Speaker 2: it because I said, until I miss it, or until
Speaker 2: I have the occasion. Why would I go back to
Speaker 2: something I haven't really missed. I really got out of
Speaker 2: the habit of drinking. I'd stopped needing it to get
Speaker 2: social confidence. I had to build a lot of those
Speaker 2: kind of skills that I'd never had to build before.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until my thirtieth and then our wedding
Speaker 2: that I thought I would like to toast and have
Speaker 2: a champagne. So maybe I'll just have a drink again.
Speaker 2: And I think that break from especially in the pivotal
Speaker 2: age of your like mid twenties, to have learned how
Speaker 2: to do that without alcohol means I have such a
Speaker 2: great relationship with it now.
Speaker 3: I drink very occasionally.
Speaker 2: It's very much based on when I actually feel like
Speaker 2: a drink rather than social construct or habit or because
Speaker 2: everyone else is. So it totally changed how I kind
Speaker 2: of view the role about Coohol in my life.
Speaker 3: I could do a whole episode of that.
Speaker 2: By the way, if anyone else has questions about society, totally.
Speaker 3: We should have done it for dried July.
Speaker 2: What it's still July next week? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okayo Google googool Suggestions for those who struggle with networking
Speaker 4: at conferences.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so networking is the hardest topic ever
Speaker 2: in business, in careers. It's so awkward. Even really confident
Speaker 2: extrovert of people find it uncomfortable. But it is also
Speaker 2: the most necessary and I think the most powerful thing
Speaker 2: you can do to build a dream your dream life
Speaker 2: is it's the people around you. The biggest thing I say,
Speaker 2: and you've heard me say this before and is break
Speaker 2: the circle. Like you know that awkward thing where you're
Speaker 2: standing in a circle and everyone's are in a conversation
Speaker 2: and you what are you doing.
Speaker 3: Adding to the life.
Speaker 2: So you're part of the circle, and you know they'll
Speaker 2: be like ten people surrounding the one person you want
Speaker 2: to talk to. Most people feel so awkward they will
Speaker 2: never break into the circle, and they'll leave without having
Speaker 2: spoken to the person that they went.
Speaker 3: There to see.
Speaker 2: I just decided it's going to be awkward no matter what.
Speaker 2: But it's going to be more awkward if I leave
Speaker 2: and I haven't used my one chance to go and
Speaker 2: chat to that person, I'm just going to rip the
Speaker 2: band aid. So you have to do that awkward thing
Speaker 2: you kind of like shoulder your way in and like
Speaker 2: make a space and then pretend that you were there
Speaker 2: the whole time and be like, yes, it's awkward, but
Speaker 2: every time you do it, you have the chance to
Speaker 2: like make a conversation, make yourself memorable to that person.
Speaker 2: You just have to get over the fact that networking sucks.
Speaker 2: Is uncomfortable and it's awkward, because then when you do
Speaker 2: push through years later, when you want to email that
Speaker 2: person and ask them for advice or something, they'll remember
Speaker 2: you because you made the effort to go and talk
Speaker 2: to them. So I call it break the circle. And
Speaker 2: once you think about it as a thing that's going
Speaker 2: to be awkward, but you just do it anyway, it's
Speaker 2: kind of easier because you're like, everyone hates this, we
Speaker 2: all look stupid. Everyone knows I'm breaking the circle because
Speaker 2: I'm shouldering my way in.
Speaker 3: But it was worth it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can I ask us a question on the back
Speaker 4: of that to people? Because you know, you would have
Speaker 4: started as someone wanting to know people, you probably now
Speaker 4: have people wanting to know you. Oh, is it like
Speaker 4: obvious when people are trying really hard to like to
Speaker 4: make the circle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: And you know what I do. Because I know that
Speaker 2: they're doing that, I will physically be like, guys, move back,
Speaker 2: let's make the circle. Bigger because I know how much
Speaker 2: guts it's taken them to come up and like make
Speaker 2: their face known in that circle. And I kind of
Speaker 2: give them an opportunity to contribute by like making eye contact,
Speaker 2: to kind of bring them in because I know how
Speaker 2: uncomfortable that is. Yeah, okay, and if they've gone to
Speaker 2: all the effort to be there and to wait at
Speaker 2: the end and to wait in a queue. Sometimes I am like,
Speaker 2: you deserve to ask the question you want to ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fair, okay, next question. Wor'st trouble you got into
Speaker 4: as a kid.
Speaker 3: This girl's actually real, You are actually real rebel. I
Speaker 3: was so naughty.
Speaker 2: You were not a girl, such a naughty girl. So
Speaker 2: up until like I from year seventy, year ten and eleven,
Speaker 2: I was so naughty, like wagging, smoking my uniform, like
Speaker 2: doing terrible things, and then I just turned into the
Speaker 2: biggest nerd rule abiding goody two shoes by year twelve.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest trouble I probably got in was,
Speaker 2: I mean, getting caught wagging a lot.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get to spreading no?
Speaker 2: Because my mom is too nice e, which I might
Speaker 2: say every time she'd find out I thoughted her signature
Speaker 2: she'd just be like, yeah, that was me because she
Speaker 2: didn't want.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: The biggest trouble I got in was when she called
Speaker 2: me because she knew I wasn't at school. She'd already
Speaker 2: checked and I was at Windsor train station and she
Speaker 2: called me and was like where are you? And I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm in photography.
Speaker 3: I'm in the dark room so I.
Speaker 2: Can't talk, and this train just goes the next train
Speaker 2: to Flinda Street and I was like, oh, it's a.
Speaker 3: Video playing in the background, and.
Speaker 2: She's like, you said, And I'd use some terrible excuse
Speaker 2: like someone in my family had died or something. Really
Speaker 2: and I got in so much trouble, but like I
Speaker 2: don't even know what the I just never got in
Speaker 2: trouble trouble. She'd just be like, I'm really disappointed in you.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like the amount of times where I
Speaker 2: can genuinely thank the heavens or whoever is looking down
Speaker 2: on me that I didn't die, like just being drunk
Speaker 2: on the street as a teenager, Like like there's been
Speaker 2: some hairy, hairy moments. Yeah, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: mean like life trouble or disciplined, disciplined trouble, but both
Speaker 2: pretty hairy. I can't think of any that were like.
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine Rizzy being like real disciplined.
Speaker 2: No, she doesn't yell, but she gets like I'm disappointed
Speaker 2: in ya because she's it's so much worse. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the worst thing is like. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but lots of terrible things that I'm
Speaker 2: not really pleased to admit.
Speaker 3: Worst food you've ever eaten?
Speaker 2: Okay, stinky tofu in Taiwan, I love it.
Speaker 3: I hate it. I love it. I hate it.
Speaker 2: It's I can't smell taste. I can't distinguish the taste
Speaker 2: from the like it smells like a toilet.
Speaker 3: Durian stinky tofu Durian's fine.
Speaker 2: Stinky tofu is like it literally smells like garbage, and
Speaker 2: then you feel like you're in garbage animail, no.
Speaker 3: Gross, or someone just said, is that her kid? Yes?
Speaker 2: This is my child?
Speaker 3: Who said this is my kid? Two are king? Oh
Speaker 3: sweet cool?
Speaker 2: No, it's not my it's my my pseudo little sisters
Speaker 2: best friend. I know, I love it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh no, here we go, get ready, everybody, do
Speaker 3: you speak French? Well?
Speaker 2: We never I think French is my best language of
Speaker 2: my foreign language to speaking very well. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I think because I lived there, so I did part
Speaker 2: of my degree over there, but not just language classes.
Speaker 2: I actually had to do some of my law subjects
Speaker 2: in French, and that I cried for three months and
Speaker 2: didn't understand anything, and then the last six months, the
Speaker 2: last three months, it like clicked. And because I know
Speaker 2: proper French, I think I don't think I'm very good
Speaker 2: because I compare it to like a Nate like all
Speaker 2: my friends who are over there, who I studied with.
Speaker 2: So I don't think I speak incredibly well because I've
Speaker 2: forgotten everything. But then I guess by the standard of
Speaker 2: people who just did it UNI or something. Because I
Speaker 2: had to do law in that language, it forced me
Speaker 2: to get get more fluent than I would have.
Speaker 4: On I think we went to dinner the other night
Speaker 4: and there was a lady and she was French, like
Speaker 4: she had the real French accent. And then you guys
Speaker 4: went into a full spell of like speaking French, and
Speaker 4: I love it. I think it's awesome, but I forget
Speaker 4: how fluent you are in French to be able to
Speaker 4: speak to a native tongue French person so easily.
Speaker 2: It's just such a beautiful language.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome. Would you like to say things to
Speaker 3: our French? Say leave this week's nugget.
Speaker 2: I'm really shy about speaking other languages because I feel
Speaker 2: like if there's a native one there, they'll be like.
Speaker 3: No, I think you should say this week's nugget is.
Speaker 2: What is nugget? I don't know what easter egg would
Speaker 2: be luscre Colon Vallet said on an episode The sets
Speaker 2: A men a.
Speaker 3: Is your favorite French food? Oh so that's the nugget.
Speaker 2: They have to and like what I say. So there's
Speaker 2: lots of word for food. It would be like plat
Speaker 2: which is played, or like nu which is like food,
Speaker 2: or like cuisine Cuisine Francais preferre a mine or this
Speaker 2: this like cuisine Francais preferre plus a if for if
Speaker 2: for new deal. Don't comments comments on asta clam What else.
Speaker 3: Do I say?
Speaker 5: That's yeah to live say kiyo equits once more messy perfect.
Speaker 3: That sounded very accurate. I can't check that pressure. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I can give you a very hard thing to say.
Speaker 2: I feel okay, what languages are fluent in not English,
Speaker 2: a little bit French. I would say the only two
Speaker 2: languages I could even say are fluent English and French.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know enough to converse in Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Russian.
Speaker 2: Not Russian nowhere near fluence. I just can say a
Speaker 2: few things.
Speaker 3: I love languages.
Speaker 2: There was a few more, some random ones I did
Speaker 2: Japanese and Chinese, Kina, Rwanda. I learned a whole nursery
Speaker 2: rhyme when we were in Rwanda.
Speaker 3: They're like, can you say anything, and you're.
Speaker 2: Like singing the I was like, hello, that's all I
Speaker 2: can say. I never remember shoulders and to.
Speaker 3: Shoulders.
Speaker 2: Anyway. I do love languages, and I find once you
Speaker 2: learn one, particularly study, you can see the patterns in others.
Speaker 2: So it's a lot once you get your brain in
Speaker 2: that kind of phase.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Favorite movie slash TV series.
Speaker 1: Oh that is so hard.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys all know I love war.
Speaker 2: Movies, so I'm very niche so like cock Down in
Speaker 2: my favorite movie ever, Zero Dark thirty. But recently like
Speaker 2: TV shows that I love. I fricking love Shit's Creek.
Speaker 2: It's like the feel good, most happiest, hilarious movie friends
Speaker 2: always Brooklyn nine nine. I love also all crime movies.
Speaker 2: I just watched The Terminal List, which I love. It's
Speaker 2: a new Jack Car with Chris Pratt in it. It's
Speaker 2: a very like Navy teams, like the teams, you know,
Speaker 2: I love watching movies about the teams.
Speaker 3: But yeah, those shows. I love. What else?
Speaker 2: I just like, I love a lot of television. We
Speaker 2: watch a lot of television a lot in the background.
Speaker 2: Sense eight on Netflix was so my favorites. I love
Speaker 2: that you watched that, did.
Speaker 3: You know like feel? It was a hard pert It
Speaker 3: was amazing.
Speaker 2: One of the movies I love, like a lot of classics,
Speaker 2: like Forrest Gump, Titanic, but I kind of love everything
Speaker 2: like Cash movie Can. I love Leonardo Leonardo da Vinci,
Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio movies I love. I love the Leonardo Divincion,
Speaker 2: the Da Vinci Code, I love that movie. I've loved
Speaker 2: lots of random things. Oh, Harry Potter, obviously, I mean
Speaker 2: obviously Harry Potter. What else? There's been so many good
Speaker 2: things on Netflix recently. One I loved recently was Orthodox. Unorthodox.
Speaker 3: Didn't end up watching that. It was The Messiah was
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like mini series, lots of British
Speaker 2: TV Line of Duty amazing, The Bodyguard amazing, like crime
Speaker 2: cop kind of shows. I'm all over the shop really
Speaker 2: with TV and movie. You know, my taste is like
Speaker 2: so bizarre, but there's like The blind Side is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 3: Feel good.
Speaker 2: I love feel good and I love the opposite of
Speaker 2: feel good, like War like No, I can Candrized No
Speaker 2: really like saving Private Ryan, like I love all those
Speaker 2: more about like the Pianist, Yeah, I love the pianists.
Speaker 3: That's very very Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just can't like I just leave Naesan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't have a very special set of skills, but
Speaker 2: you don't like taking. I like taking, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: just can't not make fun of it.
Speaker 3: I love the Born movies. I love all the Born movies.
Speaker 2: The Accountant, Love the Accountant.
Speaker 3: You love it? Did you Shooter? Yeah? I love Shooter.
Speaker 3: That's good. Love Shooter.
Speaker 2: I need to know the genre like King's Convenience, like
Speaker 2: love some Wreck. That kind of vibe everything every TV
Speaker 2: show in every genre. I feel really sorry for the
Speaker 2: five people who have been so loyal and stayed here.
Speaker 3: I Eat Duty. Favorite guests on the podcast, Oh.
Speaker 2: Very very difficult, in fact pretty much impossible. So many
Speaker 2: favorites for different reasons, and I think that's why I
Speaker 2: love the show, because the guests are so different. But
Speaker 2: you guys all know, the one that stands out so
Speaker 2: much to me is doctor Richard Harris, who's the twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen CO Australian of the Year and rescued the boys
Speaker 2: from the Thai cave. So his story is incredible and
Speaker 2: the episode was so amazing because we've all heard about
Speaker 2: that disaster in the news, but the detail of what
Speaker 2: actually happened and what it took to rescue them is insane.
Speaker 2: And you all know that. My jam is that everyone's
Speaker 2: yay is going to be someone else's absolute nightmare. But
Speaker 2: you need to stick with whatever combination of joy makes
Speaker 2: sense to you because one day someone out there will
Speaker 2: want exactly what you have. And he was a or
Speaker 2: he is and anethotist by trade and a technical cave
Speaker 2: diver by hobby. They don't make sense to each other.
Speaker 2: They have no connection. One doesn't further the other. But
Speaker 2: on that occasion, the only person in the world who
Speaker 2: could do the dive that was so technical, a Navy
Speaker 2: seal diver, died and sedate the children. At the other end,
Speaker 2: he was the only one in the world, so like,
Speaker 2: if he had for one minute let go of that
Speaker 2: combination of yay because he thought it was weird, then
Speaker 2: no one would have been able to save them.
Speaker 3: So it blows my mind.
Speaker 4: Favorite you have to watch The Rescue on Amazon, really
Speaker 4: really really really really red.
Speaker 2: Recent favorite Harry Garside again outside the box, like people
Speaker 2: who push your understanding of humanity. He's our first Olympic
Speaker 2: medalist boxer in over thirty years for Australia. But he
Speaker 2: is breaking down the traditional stereotypes of masculinity. He wears
Speaker 2: now polish, he likes to wear skirts, but he is
Speaker 2: also the epitome of masculinity and strength. It's like he's
Speaker 2: so articulate, isn't it like twenty six or something? Absolute legend.
Speaker 2: And then Gary Vee was just the one that I
Speaker 2: was like as if he ever said yes to be
Speaker 2: on the show and it was amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gary Vaynerchell, he's good. Favorite podcasts to recommend.
Speaker 2: Oh well again, I have had this weird experience in
Speaker 2: my life where I like to listen to nonfiction and
Speaker 2: read nonfiction. But to me, that is not resting I
Speaker 2: used to use it as rest because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm reading a book, where then I'd be reading a
Speaker 2: finance book and I wouldn't switch off. So most of
Speaker 2: mine are not related to self development or the news
Speaker 2: or anything current. They're more true crime, which is my
Speaker 2: favorites are serial. The Teacher's Trial going on at the
Speaker 2: moment is fascinating. If you'd listen to the Teacher's Pet
Speaker 2: anything Headley Thomas from The Australian is amazing. He also
Speaker 2: did the night Driver Shandy story. They're Melissa cattck One
Speaker 2: was fascinating. There's so many amazing crime podcasts out there.
Speaker 2: I love Shameless all time, like they're just brilliant and
Speaker 2: so unique and so.
Speaker 3: Good at what they do.
Speaker 2: I love listening to them for something that is a
Speaker 2: little bit more intellectual or makes you really reflect on
Speaker 2: things that are happening quite up to date in society.
Speaker 2: The Briefing. I love the briefing and the weekend briefing.
Speaker 2: Jamilla Resview is just a star. Gosh, there are so many.
Speaker 2: Oh and my favorite favorite favorite at the moment is SmartLess,
Speaker 2: which is Jason Bateman and Sean Hayes and they started
Speaker 2: it in Lockdown and they are just so funny. They're
Speaker 2: all comedians, but they each bring a really famous guest
Speaker 2: each week that the other three don't know is coming on,
Speaker 2: like Will Ferrell, Ricky Gervais. It's hilarious if you want
Speaker 2: to just laugh and feel great about life at the end,
Speaker 2: just brainless. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Next Sume Seas Holiday.
Speaker 2: We have a wedding in Italy in a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks and we had just come back from Egypt and
Speaker 2: we're like, we can't do it. It's just too extravagant
Speaker 2: and silly. But we also were like, we haven't been
Speaker 2: able to travel for three years, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: a wedding. It's so beautiful, what an occasion. And we
Speaker 2: want to have kids soon, as you guys know from
Speaker 2: the last episode, so if we can do anything spontaneous,
Speaker 2: it's now, so you know.
Speaker 3: C z A A Desert Island, Desert Island Picks, Desert
Speaker 3: Island Picks five three. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Also, I think this question said Desert Island discs. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you mean like the CDs I would take with me?
Speaker 2: Because girls, no, I think they meant.
Speaker 3: I don't I have as in like the TV show.
Speaker 2: I think they mean picks of things. I would take
Speaker 2: SPF fifty plus always. I thought, Okay, my phone, I
Speaker 2: assumed that it came with signal and stuff because like
Speaker 2: I kind of flog that ship.
Speaker 3: What if you get on to choose five ths?
Speaker 2: Okay, so s P fifty plus wow, okay, okay, Wellest Island, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know I just had needling skin, Like would you
Speaker 2: say water like a You're allowed to say.
Speaker 3: That because of whatever you want. I'd assume you can
Speaker 3: also show it to your own water and on the
Speaker 3: Desert Island.
Speaker 2: Okay, So filtration tablots so I can change sure, okay,
Speaker 2: ajarraffine butter. Yeah, Paul, Okay, I mean I should.
Speaker 3: Nick, Okay, cool, it sounds like sounds like you SPF
Speaker 3: boring five people, Nick, And what was the other one?
Speaker 2: Something around my phone?
Speaker 3: No, you didn't see your phone? And no you no
Speaker 3: you had five.
Speaker 2: Peu butter because like, no, I always have dry lips,
Speaker 2: so like lip gloss, most you know, balm, whatever.
Speaker 3: Gosh, favorite ninja, favorite ninja turtle.
Speaker 2: This was the weirdest question and I thought it was
Speaker 2: Nick and it wasn't. I'm gonna have to say, Michael Angelo,
Speaker 2: because he's one I remember mainly I don't really watch it,
Speaker 2: but there's.
Speaker 3: Like Raphae Yellow, yeah, Donald Tello.
Speaker 2: Even I don't know what they do. So Michael Angelo, yeah,
Speaker 2: the blue one is the leader who's here?
Speaker 3: Not mich Angela.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Idea Picasso, No, No, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know anyway.
Speaker 2: Okay, however asked, I'm like, Nick, that's a different age group.
Speaker 3: Tell me a funny joke.
Speaker 2: Someone wrote a funny joke. A skeleton walks into a bar,
Speaker 2: took our king. Can you please tell us what the
Speaker 2: actual part orders a beer and a mop and then
Speaker 2: he didn't finish the joke.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: That's the joke.
Speaker 3: Because they they get to mop it up. I'm the
Speaker 3: next question.
Speaker 4: I'm the funny joke, just the walking top three favorite
Speaker 4: jobs or clients.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 2: That's really hard, Lorrel because I get to work with
Speaker 2: them across the business unit and all the things they're doing.
Speaker 2: They're doing this amazing sustainability project in the Great Barrier,
Speaker 2: if like beyond their products. I love being part of that,
Speaker 2: and they do this amazing for women in Science program
Speaker 2: where they I actually got to produce a podcast last
Speaker 2: year on some of the fellows that won that award.
Speaker 2: Because scientists are the core of creating their beauty products.
Speaker 2: They put some money into this Iranian battery engineer like
Speaker 2: these incredible, incredible women. But then also to be able
Speaker 2: to see, you know, the they own so many different
Speaker 2: products and to see what goes into when they decide
Speaker 2: they want to reduce plastic, like how that happens.
Speaker 3: That is just a joy.
Speaker 2: Because I once said when I was a lawyer, if
Speaker 2: I could ever do anything, I'd want to be a
Speaker 2: lawyer in house at Laoreal And I never thought I
Speaker 2: would get to work with them in such a different way.
Speaker 2: But that connection has been really cool, and that they're
Speaker 2: you know, French and one day hopefully get to go
Speaker 2: and visit the office in this so so cool so
Speaker 2: many heritage brands. What's another one? I just I'm so
Speaker 2: privileged to work with the coolest companies. Intrepid is another one,
Speaker 2: Like obviously we just did our honeymoon and to get
Speaker 2: to see a company that was just founded by two
Speaker 2: people with a vision. It's an Australian business and now
Speaker 2: it's all over the world and they've got Bee Corp
Speaker 2: certification and they do. They I don't know that they
Speaker 2: are carbon neutral.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And they literally cut out parts of their itineries now
Speaker 2: that don't they can't control the animal welfare standards. And
Speaker 2: they don't give you any booklets or anything because they
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, they give it all virtually
Speaker 2: because they don't want you to have paper or plastic.
Speaker 2: You can't use plastic water bottles. Like, there's so many
Speaker 2: cool things. We drove one leg because they don't. You
Speaker 2: could do a flight, but they don't want to do,
Speaker 2: you know, they don't want to increase.
Speaker 3: Their carbon footprint. Like I love that.
Speaker 2: And the locals are paid so well, and the transparency
Speaker 2: of it being able to travel again and do it
Speaker 2: consciously is really really cool.
Speaker 3: Like that's such privilege.
Speaker 2: There's so many businesses I get to work with that
Speaker 2: I just love, and I think that's something I think
Speaker 2: I'm really lucky about.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 2: The fact that I find it hard to pick about
Speaker 2: the coolest clients and jobs is amazing.
Speaker 3: The best thing about living where you live, I was gonna.
Speaker 2: Say share, Yeah, people know where I Live's amazing just
Speaker 2: because I've actually lived in Zera my whole life. And
Speaker 2: there's a big park. It's so dog friendly, it's family friendly.
Speaker 2: There's lots of cafes and a lot going on that.
Speaker 2: It's very fitness conscious, so there's cool studios. It's yeah,
Speaker 2: a very privileged, beautiful place to live.
Speaker 4: City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, close to the city, but not too far from
Speaker 2: the beach. We're very, very lucky. But Paul mainly he.
Speaker 3: Just loves it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just loves his life.
Speaker 3: Love my little.
Speaker 4: Doggie, Loving your hair. What did you ask for the song?
Speaker 4: That's so nice?
Speaker 2: So I didn't die my hair for ten years maybe more,
Speaker 2: and I just it was like, seriously, because I'm lazy.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't regrows on dark Asian hair
Speaker 2: is too obvious, can't be bothered with the upkeep upkeep.
Speaker 2: And then one day Sarah from Organagha, who is has
Speaker 2: been my head dresser forever, is incredible, and she was like,
Speaker 2: I just want to try, Like you always want more
Speaker 2: volume and more depth, and it's you need like a
Speaker 2: little bit of highlights, and she's like, just just let
Speaker 2: me do it. And I didn't ask for anything. She
Speaker 2: literally just did it in a way that my regrowth
Speaker 2: doesn't show. But when I do curls and stuff, you
Speaker 2: can actually see volume. Yeah, and I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I literally just quite a few people have just shown
Speaker 2: their headresses the photo of my hair because she just did.
Speaker 2: I don't know what she did. She did it amazingly
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, move that photo of you as kipper.
Speaker 2: You've got those like my banana streaks that I used
Speaker 2: to have. I've got so embarrassing.
Speaker 3: So answer to that. She didn't ask for anything.
Speaker 2: It was just I wish I should try and get
Speaker 2: the colors for you. I will try. But she did
Speaker 2: just the way that they do it underneath. It's all
Speaker 2: underneath so that you can't see the regrowth. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Thirty six men's I know, and we're on late.
Speaker 3: Question two, No lifestyle now, I dont want to finish
Speaker 3: all the lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'll try and do them as quick fire, okay,
Speaker 2: and if there's any really long ones, I might go
Speaker 2: back to doing the story essay text on Instagram because oh,
Speaker 2: easier to kind of be articulate without taking up your
Speaker 2: ear holes.
Speaker 3: How often do you work out weekly? And what's the schedule?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Interesting question changes a lot. I'm very phasey, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm very phazy. I go through like phases of all
Speaker 2: running and then all yoga and then all pilates. But lately,
Speaker 2: for maybe the last year, since it's been back open
Speaker 2: in lockdown, obviously it was a lot of running because
Speaker 2: that's all we could do, and I used to be
Speaker 2: a non runner, couldn't run more than a kilometer. And
Speaker 2: then through Nike, we were able to prove to ourselves
Speaker 2: that we could build up to a half marathon, which
Speaker 2: was just insane. I still can't believe that happened. But
Speaker 2: I really got into the joy of running, so I
Speaker 2: love that you can do that anywhere. I still run
Speaker 2: much shorter distances now, but I love running. But the
Speaker 2: most amazing workout I've been doing lately is strong, which
Speaker 2: is there's a TikTok about it about like what it involves.
Speaker 2: It's a reformer bed but with a roller on the end,
Speaker 2: and so it's intense. It's so hard. But for someone
Speaker 2: who I don't, I used to work out every day
Speaker 2: and it burnt me out. My body doesn't like working
Speaker 2: out every day. I've learnt to just listen to what
Speaker 2: it's telling me. I actually prefer to do a much
Speaker 2: more intense workout but only two to three times a week,
Speaker 2: and so in those classes it's like forty five minutes
Speaker 2: to an hour, and it's really intense cardio with really
Speaker 2: intense strength, so you get a bit of everything. It
Speaker 2: kind of ticks all the boxes. And I only need
Speaker 2: to do it like twice a week, and then I
Speaker 2: walk the dog and go for walks, and I like
Speaker 2: to do yoga sometimes, but I haven't done it. I'm
Speaker 2: not doing it enough, but really like twice a week
Speaker 2: most of the time, and that keeps me pretty fit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was the other day.
Speaker 4: We our friendship didn't revolve around gym, but we did
Speaker 4: a lot of gimming together, like.
Speaker 3: Literally every day. I'd say, yeah, we made up.
Speaker 4: For a session and then just work together. But we
Speaker 4: were obsessed with like wanting to make each other vomit.
Speaker 4: And now we're just like, it's really not a vibe.
Speaker 4: It's not fun anymore, and it's not Yeah.
Speaker 3: It doesn't help longevity.
Speaker 2: I think every one, dude, you could just get it.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, and we were tired and saw all
Speaker 2: the time, and I think everyone goes through that phase
Speaker 2: that relationship with exercise where you don't actually listen to
Speaker 2: your body. You just do what you think you should do,
Speaker 2: or you do it out of habit, or you do
Speaker 2: it because you think you need to do it seven
Speaker 2: days a week. And I've just found this sweet spot,
Speaker 2: which is I have a very fast metabolism. So some
Speaker 2: people do need to work out, you know, more regularly
Speaker 2: or for heart reasons or whatever. Mentally, I find that
Speaker 2: sometimes I work out much more for the emotional release
Speaker 2: than I do for the physical. But two to three
Speaker 2: times if strong is perfect for me. I can recover
Speaker 2: in between, like I'm learning to listen to my body.
Speaker 4: Second question to that is any suggestions for those who
Speaker 4: are trying to run a small business but have a
Speaker 4: balanced life. Help's help and want a balanced, healthy social lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Really hard one, and definitely there are the early years
Speaker 2: of your business where that balance is a lot harder,
Speaker 2: and probably you're not necessarily meant to be able to
Speaker 2: have the balance because the business will be it's like
Speaker 2: a baby, It needs a lot more time and energy
Speaker 2: at the start. But I think also exercise is like
Speaker 2: what fifteen minutes, thirty minutes and an hour out of
Speaker 2: your day. Nothing can't wait that long. So for your
Speaker 2: mental and physical health, you do probably have to start
Speaker 2: practicing early, just making time for it. It doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be every day, but you won't actually make You
Speaker 2: won't make the distance with the business if you're not
Speaker 2: keeping yourself getting fresh air and moving your blood and
Speaker 2: getting fresh ideas. You know. I feel like you need
Speaker 2: to schedule it in and treat it like a priority,
Speaker 2: which is hard to do.
Speaker 4: What would you say to someone with the fear of
Speaker 4: commitment and pushes the good away?
Speaker 3: We spoke about this before.
Speaker 2: That's a hard, deep question, honestly. I think therapy. I'm
Speaker 2: a big fan of having a psychologist. I've had one
Speaker 2: for twenty years and for different reasons, different ones at
Speaker 2: different times. And I think if you have something deep
Speaker 2: in your psyche that is preventing you from being who
Speaker 2: you want to be, having an expert talking through it
Speaker 2: and give you some proper tools is immeasurable valuable. I think,
Speaker 2: especially with something like commitment, if it's a pattern and
Speaker 2: it's ruining your ability to develop deep relationships, therapy, if
Speaker 2: you can afford it and access it, is really really valuable.
Speaker 2: But also I think you can do a lot of
Speaker 2: self reflection and self work. Why are you scared of commitment?
Speaker 2: Is it because you're scared that it will go wrong.
Speaker 2: Is it because you don't like what commitment feels like?
Speaker 2: Or is it because you just haven't found the thing
Speaker 2: or the right person that actually like. Is it a
Speaker 2: fear of commitment or is it just that you've never
Speaker 2: found something that suits. So I think a lot of
Speaker 2: self work, reflection journaling that can really help you figure
Speaker 2: what you're actually feeling and does so much journaling and
Speaker 2: that helps you sort out what you are feeling and
Speaker 2: how to work through it, talking to friends, talking to
Speaker 2: other people, listen to podcasts because there's so much information
Speaker 2: from people who suffer those exact same things who can
Speaker 2: talk about how they work through it. But I think
Speaker 2: be gentle on yourself if you do have a deep
Speaker 2: fear of anything, It takes time, time to undo unhelpful
Speaker 2: neural pathways. It doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 4: Hi, Sarah, I love heart. Can you please jolve deeper
Speaker 4: to your experience on living overseas? Any tips and do
Speaker 4: you think the pros and cons of these had a
Speaker 4: lot to do with shaping you as an adult?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I am. I think because I've always loved languages and
Speaker 2: other cultures and most of you have spoken to me
Speaker 2: about this, heard me speak about this before. I think
Speaker 2: travel is the most transformative way to grow. It's obviously
Speaker 2: a huge privilege to be able to travel, and I
Speaker 2: have always prioritized travel over clothes, shopping, drinking, going out, food,
Speaker 2: everything Like UNI, I would go destitute just to go
Speaker 2: in exchange, because I have always felt like that's where
Speaker 2: you stretch your brain in a way that you can
Speaker 2: never go back.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: You just learn new things, you get fresh ideas, you
Speaker 2: just see everything differently, and you become a more well
Speaker 2: rounded person. Living overseas is an incredible experience. It's incredibly scary,
Speaker 2: it's so hard, it can be so lonely, but I
Speaker 2: think it forces you out of your comfort zone in
Speaker 2: a way that is it will change you forever. You'll
Speaker 2: make contacts and experiences that will never not be useful
Speaker 2: in some way. So I think if you do get
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do it, you can always come home.
Speaker 2: You can always come home to the best country in
Speaker 2: the world. So if you get the chance, do it,
Speaker 2: do it for a short time, just try if you can,
Speaker 2: and if that's what you want, I think I think
Speaker 2: it's just so valuable. Most people I know who have
Speaker 2: had the chance at an expat stint or a unique
Speaker 2: exchange or whatever it is, have just become such better
Speaker 2: rounded people.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love travel.
Speaker 2: We're very biased, though, Like one of our biggest priorities
Speaker 2: in life is to explore the world and explore its people.
Speaker 3: That's how experienced. Or I learned what all meant today,
Speaker 3: like properly, or I like I blew you away? No,
Speaker 3: or you're in all right now.
Speaker 4: No. I listened to a podcast about how the Science
Speaker 4: of Happiness and finding awe, and they were defining awe
Speaker 4: to be the feeling of vastness that you can't quite
Speaker 4: comprehend at that time Egypt, and I didn't realize that's
Speaker 4: what all meant.
Speaker 3: You were saying so much.
Speaker 4: I'm all blah blah blah, but in all by definition
Speaker 4: apparently means kind of that vast sense, which is what
Speaker 4: I feel when I'm on hills and lights, which I
Speaker 4: didn't made sense anyway.
Speaker 2: Andrew's yay is being on hills where you can see
Speaker 2: the skyline, the vastness at night with all the lights
Speaker 2: like trigger.
Speaker 3: Ready Saucy tips on keeping a spicy sex life after
Speaker 3: thirteen years and how do you support a healthy sex life,
Speaker 3: and there's so much travel in your relationship.
Speaker 2: This is a really hard question because I'm an open book.
Speaker 2: But as you guys know, as I said in the
Speaker 2: last episode, when the question involves someone else, I don't
Speaker 2: want to bring them into it in a way that
Speaker 2: they haven't given me permission. So all I will say
Speaker 2: here is that it's like anything in a relationship, you
Speaker 2: just have to talk about it. You have to make
Speaker 2: an effort. You have to prioritize these things as a couple,
Speaker 2: and most things like that don't just come easily. Like
Speaker 2: most couples after that long, you don't just continue with
Speaker 2: ease for your whole lifetime.
Speaker 3: It involves work.
Speaker 2: There are ups and downs, there are rollercoasters in all
Speaker 2: kinds of emotions, including your sex life. And I think
Speaker 2: it's yeh, open communication, particularly with travel, when you know
Speaker 2: that you're going to be traveling a lot, you have
Speaker 2: to talk about that stuff. You have to work out
Speaker 2: something that works for you. Guys, So open communication and
Speaker 2: be willing to work on a relationship. Don't expect your
Speaker 2: relationship to just be how you want it to be
Speaker 2: without work.
Speaker 3: How did you and Nick Meat?
Speaker 2: I will share the link to the episode when we
Speaker 2: talk about that.
Speaker 3: But nightclub.
Speaker 2: On the table, how to meet your husband one oh one,
Speaker 2: get on a podium too much?
Speaker 3: When you travel, are you honeymoon? Are they're freebies?
Speaker 4: Or even better, are you getting paid essentially getting paid
Speaker 4: to have what we see as the best life ever?
Speaker 3: Is that a perk of your platform and outreach at
Speaker 3: the minute.
Speaker 2: That's a really good question, and it varies. I think
Speaker 2: it's a really interesting time in the market where people
Speaker 2: can have careers that involve incredible partnerships. And I totally
Speaker 2: agree every day that I get to do something that
Speaker 2: involves any travel whatsoever, even when I was at law firm,
Speaker 2: being paid to travel for even for work is the dream.
Speaker 2: It's what I wanted my entire life. And I am
Speaker 2: so lucky that some of the partnerships that I have
Speaker 2: had have like Jetstar is one of them, and Intrepid
Speaker 2: is this amazing partnership that's just sort of come out
Speaker 2: of nowhere this year that they do involve traveling and
Speaker 2: something that I would have done anyway and have always
Speaker 2: wanted to do, And I think they're the organic partnerships
Speaker 2: is where you would have done that thing anyway, and
Speaker 2: then you just happen to be introduced to the company
Speaker 2: and then get to do it. Like all the products
Speaker 2: I use in paid partnerships are ones that usually came
Speaker 2: about because I use them anyway, tag them, and then
Speaker 2: they reach out. So it's a very beautiful organic development
Speaker 2: of a relationship. And that does mean, yeah, there have
Speaker 2: been there are trips that I do where I like
Speaker 2: there are just trips where I go on them, pay
Speaker 2: for them, totally normal, and then I will often still
Speaker 2: share and tag because people like to know, you know,
Speaker 2: if we share something that they're like, where is that
Speaker 2: is a cool accommodation in blah, and I love tagging
Speaker 2: and sharing the whole journey. Then there are trips where
Speaker 2: sometimes a destination will say we would love you to
Speaker 2: come and stay if you can fit it in, or
Speaker 2: you're down this area, we'd love to offer that in
Speaker 2: exchange for you covering it, and so that's free, but
Speaker 2: also in exchange for what other people would pay for,
Speaker 2: so it is still being paid for in your work,
Speaker 2: but yes, in terms of money exchange, it's free. And
Speaker 2: then there are jobs where you weren't going to do
Speaker 2: that trip anyway, and obviously when you're away you you
Speaker 2: can't do other works, so it is still the booking
Speaker 2: of your time, and you get booked to go on
Speaker 2: a job, and then that entire time you're expected to
Speaker 2: do certain deliverables. It's like your time is measured out,
Speaker 2: not based on what you choose, and you often don't
Speaker 2: choose the destination, which again it's still amazing, but in
Speaker 2: that structure where you are there to do what they
Speaker 2: would like you to do and cover it in exactly
Speaker 2: the way they would like you to do it. That
Speaker 2: is when it is often a paid job where you
Speaker 2: get the trip and you get paid to go on it,
Speaker 2: which sounds outrageous.
Speaker 3: It is outrageous.
Speaker 2: It is so incredible, but it does definitely come with expectations,
Speaker 2: report deliverables.
Speaker 4: You have to do full reports, like you have to
Speaker 4: be It's it's all like, obviously it's an awesome thing,
Speaker 4: but you forget that it's not a trip that you
Speaker 4: can just if you want to laser around today. You
Speaker 4: can't really laze around, Yeah, exactly, You've got to be
Speaker 4: on which is still really fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's that and you're filming the entire team. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not like I mean again, I would be formuled
Speaker 2: out the entire time anyway. I'm not saying that it's hard,
Speaker 2: but you do start the day with a very full
Speaker 2: itinery of things that are on your list and you
Speaker 2: have to cover them, and then you have to like
Speaker 2: spend most of the night editing it so it's up
Speaker 2: at the right time, and then the whole trip is
Speaker 2: consumed by the deliverables you're supposed to deliver by the
Speaker 2: time you get back, and you can't do any most
Speaker 2: of the time, you can't do any other work while
Speaker 2: you're there, just because you're so busy. But again, hinge
Speaker 2: myself that that's a job. It's like get away presented.
Speaker 2: They're working. You wouldn't expect them to do that for free,
Speaker 2: but they still get to travel for work and it's insane.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot of different ways, but we're
Speaker 2: sort of like we still travel and pay for it
Speaker 2: normally and don't kind of go, oh, we're going to X.
Speaker 2: Can we try and line something up. We'll still just
Speaker 2: go yeah, and then if something comes up as well,
Speaker 2: we'll do that as well. It's yeah, but we're very
Speaker 2: very lucky. It's an incredible, incredible work development.
Speaker 3: You would hard for it.
Speaker 2: Those just yeah, drive, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's nice. What is your net worth? Okay?
Speaker 2: That is a I did open to other questions. I
Speaker 2: actually don't know how do you? I don't even know
Speaker 2: how you work that out, So I couldn't even answer
Speaker 2: if I wanted to how I wouldn't share that. But
Speaker 2: I don't even know one dollar. I don't actually think
Speaker 2: that I'm at the stage where I would have a networth,
Speaker 2: you know how, like do you only people who are
Speaker 2: bajillionaires actually have a net worth? Like I think it's calculus.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who even knows that.
Speaker 3: How are your assets and finance distributed?
Speaker 4: Oh as in shares, crypto, property, business, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Would love to another woman and what they're doing, thank you?
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, So I have a very very small
Speaker 2: share portfolio. I'm not very good at shares and don't
Speaker 2: give it the tension and time it needs. And for
Speaker 2: that reason, I don't have any crypto either. You love it,
Speaker 2: I'm not crypto. I literally have like a very tiny
Speaker 2: amount of shares that I got when I bought them
Speaker 2: when I thought I was going to get into the
Speaker 2: shares when I was a lawyer. Actually, and I haven't
Speaker 2: done easy with them, like literally less than five hundred
Speaker 2: dollars worth of shares, so it's only the business. It's
Speaker 2: business and assets. And yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Very financially responsible though, like you have a broad account
Speaker 4: like as in savings account.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go way too and you're tune with that.
Speaker 2: Yes, thereas clear percentages of like x amount goes obviously
Speaker 2: straight to tax because we're not poag, we're not employed
Speaker 2: by someone, so we have to take our tax out.
Speaker 2: First we take out GST, then you take out your
Speaker 2: income tax. Then I take a massive chunk and it
Speaker 2: goes straight to savings and I don't touch it, and
Speaker 2: then the rest is some for personal expenses, and then
Speaker 2: some goes in the business account for business expenses. But
Speaker 2: we're like, we're pretty budget. We budget pretty you're pretty
Speaker 2: like I'm very like breadsheety, very school.
Speaker 3: Can you do mine? Absolutely? Nicks, because I'm terrible.
Speaker 2: I've always been like that.
Speaker 3: I I kind of.
Speaker 4: Know what's happening with it, but I can't sit down
Speaker 4: and tell you even.
Speaker 3: A UNI people like how are you affording to travel?
Speaker 2: Even though of course we were like doing it very cheap,
Speaker 2: but people would be like, how could you afford to
Speaker 2: do a couple of exchanges if your parents aren't giving
Speaker 2: you money. And I was like, because I literally spreadsheet everything.
Speaker 2: When I know I'm traveling or I know I want
Speaker 2: to go on a trip, I just wouldn't buy a
Speaker 2: new dress.
Speaker 3: I'd wear the same dress like for a.
Speaker 2: Whole year every time I went out, and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: like for my formal I didn't get my makeup and
Speaker 2: hair done. I did my own makeup and I made
Speaker 2: a dress, you know, things like that, because I knew
Speaker 2: that I wanted to travel, So I've always been good
Speaker 2: at like rejigging.
Speaker 4: There's two last questions, which two off which I feel
Speaker 4: like you've answered in various ways in other podcasts and
Speaker 4: or in videos. But one is skin Scare routine and
Speaker 4: the other's Day in a.
Speaker 2: Life skincare routine. Day in the Life. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: also feel like I probably need to do them as
Speaker 2: a video.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: But Day in the Life I did, what I think
Speaker 2: is a really funny one on TikTok on a day
Speaker 2: where I didn't get to choose, because you know when
Speaker 2: people do day in the Life and they pick the
Speaker 2: coolest day of it, which I'm sure I've done in
Speaker 2: my life. But I was like, I'm going to do
Speaker 2: it today because I didn't get to choose, I had
Speaker 2: no makeup on I woke up, sat in bed, sat
Speaker 2: on my life top. Ten hours later, I was still there.
Speaker 2: So that's one type of day in my life. But
Speaker 2: I'll try and do one. But they're so different, you know,
Speaker 2: my day's never the same.
Speaker 3: No, That's why I was like, that'd be hard for you.
Speaker 3: You couldn't even if you chose six days. Went.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try and like maybe write out a few
Speaker 2: common things and I'll put that on Instagram. And same
Speaker 2: with skincare routine. There's like a lot of products I
Speaker 2: like to try a lot of different things you probably noticed,
Speaker 2: but I have a few favorites that are like ride
Speaker 2: or dies for skincare, and needling is this new thing
Speaker 2: as well. So there's a lot of layers to the
Speaker 2: same care routine. But I went from like, obviously, you
Speaker 2: guys know I'm Korean by heritage but adopted, so I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not like I don't have a twelve step
Speaker 2: Korean skincare routine. I'm getting there, though. I went from
Speaker 2: like one step to like maybe five now, so I'm
Speaker 2: getting there.
Speaker 3: That was the end of the questions.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you guys so much that an almos q
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get fun questions.
Speaker 2: That's the nicest. Anyway. I feel like that's probably enough
Speaker 2: because it's fifty five minutes. So we will do Egypt
Speaker 2: and our neighborhood watch items one of which there's so
Speaker 2: many I think we'll just we'll do it next week.
Speaker 2: But thank you guys so much for the beautiful questions.
Speaker 2: Anything else we want to add?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, people, and it's kind of fun. We have been
Speaker 3: wanting a live event, which we will do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think this is a fun way to
Speaker 2: Like that means every episode we can do some anonymous
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Speaker 3: We can just do it live.
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Speaker 3: Awesome, And if you guys have anything.
Speaker 2: You want to talk about on our Next Days of
Speaker 2: Our Lives episode next week, maybe we should do anonymous
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Speaker 3: I'd happy to do. That's going to be our topic.
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