1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:22,785 Speaker 1: recorded on whoever said orange is a new pink with 4 00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:27,505 Speaker 1: seriously disturbed laurels for spring groundbreaking? Oh my god, you 5 00:00:27,705 --> 00:00:32,665 Speaker 1: have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and 6 00:00:32,745 --> 00:00:35,545 Speaker 1: welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion 7 00:00:35,545 --> 00:00:38,825 Speaker 1: problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, and 8 00:00:38,945 --> 00:00:41,585 Speaker 1: every week I talk to an expert who helps us 9 00:00:41,625 --> 00:00:43,465 Speaker 1: work out how to get more out of the clothes 10 00:00:43,465 --> 00:00:46,385 Speaker 1: we already own and tells us exactly what is and 11 00:00:46,425 --> 00:00:49,745 Speaker 1: what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm joined 12 00:00:49,745 --> 00:00:53,785 Speaker 1: by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but I've admired 13 00:00:53,865 --> 00:00:57,985 Speaker 1: her career and style for years. Her name is Eliza 14 00:00:58,305 --> 00:01:02,345 Speaker 1: Soorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's currently the 15 00:01:02,385 --> 00:01:04,785 Speaker 1: head of content here at Mamma Mia, but her fashion 16 00:01:04,785 --> 00:01:08,905 Speaker 1: credentials stretch far beyond our office walls. With over fifteen 17 00:01:08,985 --> 00:01:13,425 Speaker 1: years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's 18 00:01:13,465 --> 00:01:18,265 Speaker 1: worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia. 19 00:01:18,785 --> 00:01:22,345 Speaker 1: She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia, you know, 20 00:01:22,465 --> 00:01:25,545 Speaker 1: no Biggie and before that she was at Australia's Shop 21 00:01:25,625 --> 00:01:28,505 Speaker 1: You Drop magazine, which I also worked out Cleo and 22 00:01:28,665 --> 00:01:31,985 Speaker 1: Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced 23 00:01:31,985 --> 00:01:34,145 Speaker 1: her onto the podcast is is because I think she 24 00:01:34,425 --> 00:01:38,025 Speaker 1: is the definition of personal style. She always looks great, 25 00:01:38,385 --> 00:01:41,385 Speaker 1: She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't 26 00:01:41,385 --> 00:01:44,145 Speaker 1: think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from 27 00:01:44,145 --> 00:01:46,425 Speaker 1: what I can see, but she always looks very stylish, 28 00:01:46,585 --> 00:01:49,305 Speaker 1: and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to 29 00:01:49,345 --> 00:01:52,345 Speaker 1: pick her brain all about her unique global perspective on 30 00:01:52,465 --> 00:01:55,745 Speaker 1: everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she 31 00:01:55,825 --> 00:01:59,425 Speaker 1: thinks the fashion media landscape is going next. Eliza, welcome 32 00:01:59,425 --> 00:02:01,905 Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you for having me. You're kind 33 00:02:01,905 --> 00:02:05,505 Speaker 1: of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind the scenes, yes, 34 00:02:05,585 --> 00:02:08,545 Speaker 1: which is where I normally like to be. But you're 35 00:02:08,425 --> 00:02:10,865 Speaker 1: a very fashion and star. I shit. We'll get into 36 00:02:10,905 --> 00:02:13,505 Speaker 1: in a moment, but before we do, I always ask 37 00:02:13,745 --> 00:02:16,585 Speaker 1: first time guests the same two questions. So firstly, can 38 00:02:16,625 --> 00:02:19,305 Speaker 1: you describe your style in three words? And what are they? 39 00:02:20,585 --> 00:02:24,665 Speaker 2: I actually hate this question because you just sound very 40 00:02:24,785 --> 00:02:28,785 Speaker 2: up yourself. But I think I would say maybe like 41 00:02:29,145 --> 00:02:33,225 Speaker 2: non ego as one word, playing that place in that 42 00:02:34,105 --> 00:02:37,625 Speaker 2: I don't really care that much about brands. I just 43 00:02:38,345 --> 00:02:40,225 Speaker 2: like a look, and I'm happy to play with high 44 00:02:40,265 --> 00:02:40,545 Speaker 2: end loss. 45 00:02:40,545 --> 00:02:42,105 Speaker 1: That's why you're on the topic that we're about to 46 00:02:42,105 --> 00:02:44,905 Speaker 1: talk about, because that's exactly what you do. Yeah, what else? 47 00:02:45,025 --> 00:02:47,065 Speaker 2: I think I would also say classic. 48 00:02:47,745 --> 00:02:50,665 Speaker 1: But not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like with 49 00:02:50,745 --> 00:02:53,505 Speaker 1: a bit of a twist. Yeah, And then my third 50 00:02:53,705 --> 00:02:59,465 Speaker 1: word would be potentially daring love it, which just feels 51 00:02:59,905 --> 00:03:03,385 Speaker 1: a bit but that'sposition married the classic and the daring 52 00:03:03,785 --> 00:03:06,545 Speaker 1: opposites attract and that's how you get your unique style. Yeah, 53 00:03:06,625 --> 00:03:10,065 Speaker 1: that's nice, thank you. Most people wear a small portion 54 00:03:10,145 --> 00:03:12,385 Speaker 1: of their wardrobe a lot, so ten percent of their 55 00:03:12,385 --> 00:03:14,865 Speaker 1: wardrobe ninety percent of the time is the rough step. 56 00:03:15,025 --> 00:03:17,105 Speaker 1: So what's in your ten percent that you reach four 57 00:03:17,145 --> 00:03:18,145 Speaker 1: more than the other stuff? 58 00:03:18,425 --> 00:03:20,145 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I think this is really interesting because I 59 00:03:20,185 --> 00:03:22,305 Speaker 2: actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of 60 00:03:22,305 --> 00:03:22,865 Speaker 2: my wardrobe. 61 00:03:23,025 --> 00:03:24,705 Speaker 1: You wear a lot. Well, not that I've been to 62 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:27,505 Speaker 1: your wardrobe, but I feel like you don't just wear 63 00:03:27,505 --> 00:03:30,665 Speaker 1: things once, but I see you mixing and matching items 64 00:03:30,705 --> 00:03:32,865 Speaker 1: in different ways, So I think you must wear more 65 00:03:32,865 --> 00:03:33,745 Speaker 1: than ten percent. Yeah. 66 00:03:33,745 --> 00:03:37,145 Speaker 2: I think it's also because our workplace. You can really 67 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:40,745 Speaker 2: express yourself here, and I will have lots of client meetings. 68 00:03:40,945 --> 00:03:42,985 Speaker 2: So don't really ever want to wear the same thing 69 00:03:43,305 --> 00:03:46,385 Speaker 2: all the time as in the whole same outfit exactly exactly. 70 00:03:46,705 --> 00:03:51,105 Speaker 2: So I would say, if it's weekends, oversized tea with 71 00:03:51,625 --> 00:03:55,385 Speaker 2: little kind of rugby or boxer shorts with socks and 72 00:03:55,825 --> 00:04:00,425 Speaker 2: like sambos, sambos kind of socks, like slightly long. Okay, 73 00:04:00,465 --> 00:04:04,825 Speaker 2: you're cool, you can see them. Always have a chunky 74 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:11,065 Speaker 2: gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops. Always wear bodysuits 75 00:04:11,745 --> 00:04:15,185 Speaker 2: like me. I'm not Beyonce like marching around in Aliatard, 76 00:04:15,625 --> 00:04:18,985 Speaker 2: but I love a bodysuit, like as a foundation. I'm 77 00:04:18,985 --> 00:04:21,745 Speaker 2: wearing one right now. What I love about a bodysuit, 78 00:04:21,785 --> 00:04:23,785 Speaker 2: I think everyone should own them. I find them very 79 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:27,185 Speaker 2: comfortable to wear. But they just give you such a 80 00:04:27,225 --> 00:04:29,665 Speaker 2: good line. I think it elevates looks. 81 00:04:29,465 --> 00:04:30,945 Speaker 1: And then you don't have to really worry about the 82 00:04:30,985 --> 00:04:32,825 Speaker 1: tucking in because it's tucked in under your. 83 00:04:32,705 --> 00:04:35,185 Speaker 2: Bea and it's it's tucked in nicely. Yes, So I 84 00:04:35,225 --> 00:04:38,145 Speaker 2: often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few, so 85 00:04:38,185 --> 00:04:39,825 Speaker 2: then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear 86 00:04:39,865 --> 00:04:42,545 Speaker 2: them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly 87 00:04:42,585 --> 00:04:45,745 Speaker 2: believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because 88 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:48,945 Speaker 2: they just also fit your body. They're so comfortable and 89 00:04:49,065 --> 00:04:50,585 Speaker 2: k might also have a really good. 90 00:04:50,505 --> 00:04:52,265 Speaker 1: Range of bodies them with David Jones if you want 91 00:04:52,305 --> 00:04:52,745 Speaker 1: to go try it. 92 00:04:52,825 --> 00:04:56,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, I love skims by suits, but also 93 00:04:56,865 --> 00:04:59,985 Speaker 2: like I will wear suits and lots of jeans and 94 00:05:00,185 --> 00:05:01,065 Speaker 2: lots of blazers. 95 00:05:01,185 --> 00:05:02,785 Speaker 1: Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk 96 00:05:02,825 --> 00:05:05,025 Speaker 1: about how you do mix it up. So you've had 97 00:05:05,025 --> 00:05:08,625 Speaker 1: many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related 98 00:05:08,625 --> 00:05:11,185 Speaker 1: in a way. Editor at Vote Scandinavia, no big deal. 99 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:15,265 Speaker 1: Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and Shopped You Drop. 100 00:05:15,265 --> 00:05:17,745 Speaker 1: We were both at Shopped You Drop their different times, 101 00:05:17,745 --> 00:05:19,865 Speaker 1: worked in the same building. And now you're head of 102 00:05:19,905 --> 00:05:23,345 Speaker 1: content and MoMA Maya like massive. So with all of that, 103 00:05:23,385 --> 00:05:25,745 Speaker 1: you obviously have a passion which is women and telling 104 00:05:25,785 --> 00:05:28,985 Speaker 1: stories and what content they want to know about. Why 105 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:30,985 Speaker 1: does that interest you? And as it always interests you? 106 00:05:31,625 --> 00:05:35,465 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I always loved telling stories like I 107 00:05:35,505 --> 00:05:38,265 Speaker 2: would sit down my sisters and my brothers and I 108 00:05:38,305 --> 00:05:41,305 Speaker 2: would tell them stories. I'd also style them. Like from 109 00:05:41,345 --> 00:05:44,105 Speaker 2: a very young age, it was always about storytelling and 110 00:05:44,905 --> 00:05:48,465 Speaker 2: dress ups. But I think I started off as a 111 00:05:48,505 --> 00:05:51,825 Speaker 2: sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job was 112 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:54,385 Speaker 2: writing the copy for all the fashion pages. So that 113 00:05:54,505 --> 00:05:57,305 Speaker 2: you explain what a sub editor does for those that 114 00:05:57,345 --> 00:06:01,185 Speaker 2: don't know, because now I know. So the sub editor 115 00:06:01,465 --> 00:06:04,265 Speaker 2: used to whilst they still do, they still exist. But 116 00:06:04,305 --> 00:06:07,225 Speaker 2: a sub editor would read all of the stories, make 117 00:06:07,265 --> 00:06:10,425 Speaker 2: sure the grammar was all correct, make sure it was 118 00:06:10,465 --> 00:06:13,065 Speaker 2: written well, would edit copy. 119 00:06:13,105 --> 00:06:15,745 Speaker 1: We have to take out, like if there's a bird out, 120 00:06:15,745 --> 00:06:17,185 Speaker 1: it's too big and it's got to fit on a page. 121 00:06:17,185 --> 00:06:18,785 Speaker 1: I used to fight with my subs all the time, 122 00:06:18,825 --> 00:06:22,105 Speaker 1: and they're like, you're waffling on this is that red pen. 123 00:06:22,225 --> 00:06:25,185 Speaker 2: I was the red pen, and we'd come up with headlines, 124 00:06:25,225 --> 00:06:27,825 Speaker 2: we come up with captions. But what I loved about 125 00:06:27,865 --> 00:06:30,465 Speaker 2: the job was I would work really closely with the 126 00:06:30,465 --> 00:06:32,465 Speaker 2: fashion team and a lot of the stylists. They're not 127 00:06:32,545 --> 00:06:35,825 Speaker 2: necessarily trained writers, so I get to write all their pages, 128 00:06:36,145 --> 00:06:38,825 Speaker 2: so I would get to write about trends. I worked 129 00:06:38,865 --> 00:06:42,625 Speaker 2: with some of the best fashion stylists in Australia, and 130 00:06:42,665 --> 00:06:44,945 Speaker 2: so I would sit with them. They would say, this 131 00:06:45,105 --> 00:06:47,785 Speaker 2: is what's happening on the runway, this is a trend. 132 00:06:47,865 --> 00:06:50,025 Speaker 2: Now you go right about it to like fill the 133 00:06:50,065 --> 00:06:53,865 Speaker 2: beautiful pages. So that's where I started really learning about fashion, 134 00:06:53,945 --> 00:06:56,105 Speaker 2: because I would sit with those really good editors and 135 00:06:56,145 --> 00:06:58,905 Speaker 2: they would then teach me how to shop, how to 136 00:06:58,905 --> 00:07:01,705 Speaker 2: shop the runways, what trends to buy, what trends not 137 00:07:01,825 --> 00:07:04,505 Speaker 2: to buy, you know, ones that would stay around, and 138 00:07:04,585 --> 00:07:06,825 Speaker 2: so I just I loved that. But I also just 139 00:07:06,905 --> 00:07:10,665 Speaker 2: love that women are so multifaceted, Like fashion is also 140 00:07:10,825 --> 00:07:13,105 Speaker 2: such an important part of culture. It's such an important 141 00:07:13,105 --> 00:07:17,785 Speaker 2: part of history, and what you wear really really can 142 00:07:17,945 --> 00:07:20,305 Speaker 2: like send messages. I feel like at Taylor Swift, there's 143 00:07:20,305 --> 00:07:23,305 Speaker 2: Easter eggs in her clothes. You look at like Malania Trump, 144 00:07:24,105 --> 00:07:26,425 Speaker 2: what she wears like literally what she says on her 145 00:07:26,465 --> 00:07:30,665 Speaker 2: jacket exactly. So I think that tie with fashion and 146 00:07:30,705 --> 00:07:34,065 Speaker 2: culture has always really interested me and it's really powerful. 147 00:07:34,185 --> 00:07:35,945 Speaker 1: It is, and I think we don't judge a book 148 00:07:35,985 --> 00:07:39,025 Speaker 1: by its cover, but what you wear does present you 149 00:07:39,025 --> 00:07:40,265 Speaker 1: to the world in a certain way, and that's not 150 00:07:40,305 --> 00:07:42,465 Speaker 1: about spending a lot of money or you know, having 151 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:45,345 Speaker 1: to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique, 152 00:07:45,345 --> 00:07:46,865 Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to have you here because 153 00:07:46,865 --> 00:07:49,385 Speaker 1: I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really 154 00:07:49,505 --> 00:07:52,625 Speaker 1: nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have 155 00:07:52,745 --> 00:07:54,785 Speaker 1: a personal style that's not like anyone else I know, 156 00:07:55,345 --> 00:07:58,025 Speaker 1: but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or 157 00:07:58,065 --> 00:07:59,985 Speaker 1: like you could be like you know, you had just 158 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:02,825 Speaker 1: have the most unique personal style. In your career that 159 00:08:02,825 --> 00:08:06,065 Speaker 1: we just discussed, You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and 160 00:08:06,145 --> 00:08:09,265 Speaker 1: content from print we were both at magazines, to digital 161 00:08:09,905 --> 00:08:12,625 Speaker 1: and then social media. Wow, we've been through a lot. 162 00:08:12,705 --> 00:08:17,145 Speaker 1: So how has this transformation changed what women wear? Do 163 00:08:17,225 --> 00:08:19,305 Speaker 1: you think and what you wear personally? 164 00:08:19,505 --> 00:08:22,185 Speaker 2: I do really think you've seen through the years fashion's 165 00:08:22,185 --> 00:08:26,305 Speaker 2: gone from really aspirational too bout personal style. I think, 166 00:08:26,345 --> 00:08:28,345 Speaker 2: you know, back in the day you just did have 167 00:08:28,385 --> 00:08:33,145 Speaker 2: the magazines, but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I 168 00:08:33,145 --> 00:08:38,225 Speaker 2: think YouTube as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course, 169 00:08:38,225 --> 00:08:41,625 Speaker 2: but I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms. 170 00:08:42,025 --> 00:08:46,465 Speaker 2: Anyone can be a fashion editor now anyone can put 171 00:08:46,465 --> 00:08:48,545 Speaker 2: out their own style. And it's also what I think 172 00:08:48,585 --> 00:08:53,905 Speaker 2: has happened is now you can see people styling brands 173 00:08:53,905 --> 00:08:56,785 Speaker 2: that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the 174 00:08:56,945 --> 00:09:00,145 Speaker 2: high street, but even just like more budget brands, and 175 00:09:00,225 --> 00:09:03,185 Speaker 2: you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become 176 00:09:03,265 --> 00:09:06,225 Speaker 2: a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a 177 00:09:06,225 --> 00:09:09,225 Speaker 2: lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and 178 00:09:09,265 --> 00:09:12,345 Speaker 2: it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend, 179 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,785 Speaker 2: we all must follow that now. 180 00:09:13,945 --> 00:09:16,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true, and I think also yeah, I 181 00:09:16,025 --> 00:09:18,385 Speaker 1: mean social media is a double edged sword in terms 182 00:09:18,425 --> 00:09:20,785 Speaker 1: of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of 183 00:09:20,785 --> 00:09:22,585 Speaker 1: stuff and you don't. But what I love about it 184 00:09:22,625 --> 00:09:25,305 Speaker 1: is you can discover new brands or underground brands or 185 00:09:25,345 --> 00:09:27,705 Speaker 1: small brands, or you can get ideas of how to 186 00:09:27,705 --> 00:09:30,705 Speaker 1: put things together. And that's how you wear more of 187 00:09:30,865 --> 00:09:32,825 Speaker 1: your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like 188 00:09:32,865 --> 00:09:36,385 Speaker 1: you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspoke come from? 189 00:09:36,825 --> 00:09:38,785 Speaker 2: I'm on the internet a lot, it's where I work, 190 00:09:38,825 --> 00:09:41,785 Speaker 2: but also really inspired by the people around me as well. 191 00:09:42,065 --> 00:09:45,625 Speaker 2: I love people watching. I loved street style, like street 192 00:09:45,665 --> 00:09:48,025 Speaker 2: style back in the day when it first started, like 193 00:09:48,065 --> 00:09:49,745 Speaker 2: the materialists. 194 00:09:49,025 --> 00:09:50,185 Speaker 1: Oh my god, remember that? 195 00:09:50,265 --> 00:09:53,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, like style Hunter, I loved Street Style life. That 196 00:09:53,625 --> 00:09:56,985 Speaker 2: was my thing. I just could scroll for hours. I 197 00:09:57,025 --> 00:10:00,265 Speaker 2: also get really inspired by newsletters. I sign up to 198 00:10:00,545 --> 00:10:02,905 Speaker 2: a lot of brand's newsletters. 199 00:10:02,945 --> 00:10:03,665 Speaker 1: That's interesting. 200 00:10:04,065 --> 00:10:06,025 Speaker 2: If there's a brand I like, I will sign up 201 00:10:06,025 --> 00:10:09,105 Speaker 2: to the newsletters straight away. And I just love going 202 00:10:09,145 --> 00:10:11,305 Speaker 2: through my inbo I find it's so relaxing and you're 203 00:10:11,345 --> 00:10:13,465 Speaker 2: just like, that's then you outfit. Okay, so that's kind 204 00:10:13,505 --> 00:10:15,785 Speaker 2: of the look that they're going for this season. Oh, 205 00:10:15,825 --> 00:10:18,305 Speaker 2: it's a little bit more laid back and effortless, and 206 00:10:18,345 --> 00:10:21,385 Speaker 2: so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season, 207 00:10:21,505 --> 00:10:23,545 Speaker 2: and then you can kind of start seeing it in 208 00:10:23,665 --> 00:10:26,665 Speaker 2: street style and understand the pieces. And you can see also, 209 00:10:26,785 --> 00:10:29,785 Speaker 2: like you know, a trend if one brand's. 210 00:10:29,465 --> 00:10:32,145 Speaker 1: Doing this skirt. Oh that skirts in every brand. Okay, 211 00:10:32,185 --> 00:10:33,985 Speaker 1: so that's the skirt of the season. You kind of 212 00:10:34,025 --> 00:10:36,465 Speaker 1: follow the story. Yeah, And I love the newsletter because 213 00:10:36,465 --> 00:10:39,305 Speaker 1: it just comes to me. I saved my adms my 214 00:10:39,385 --> 00:10:41,745 Speaker 1: newsletters for Sunday mornings, so you know, back in the day, 215 00:10:41,745 --> 00:10:43,545 Speaker 1: I used to go get the Sunday paper or read 216 00:10:43,545 --> 00:10:45,985 Speaker 1: it a cafe, and now I read my favorite newsletters 217 00:10:46,105 --> 00:10:47,545 Speaker 1: in my inbox on a Sunday morning. 218 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:49,305 Speaker 2: It's so relaxing and fun. 219 00:10:49,305 --> 00:10:52,625 Speaker 1: Interestingly, over this career and over your life, you've lived 220 00:10:52,625 --> 00:10:55,225 Speaker 1: in Sweden. Yeah, and then you kind of recently came 221 00:10:55,265 --> 00:10:57,705 Speaker 1: back to Australia what two years ago now, yeah, nearly 222 00:10:57,705 --> 00:11:00,145 Speaker 1: two year two years? So what did you take from 223 00:11:00,225 --> 00:11:03,185 Speaker 1: Scandinavian style because I feel like I don't know. Well, 224 00:11:03,225 --> 00:11:05,385 Speaker 1: you tell me how does it differ or how is 225 00:11:05,385 --> 00:11:07,585 Speaker 1: it similar to Australian women and their style. 226 00:11:08,025 --> 00:11:11,745 Speaker 2: Well, so Scandinavians are a lot dressed up then yeah, 227 00:11:11,945 --> 00:11:14,505 Speaker 2: I think Australians are a lot more easy going and 228 00:11:14,585 --> 00:11:19,185 Speaker 2: laid back. It's more active wear in Australia. Yes, And 229 00:11:19,465 --> 00:11:22,945 Speaker 2: in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks 230 00:11:23,505 --> 00:11:25,945 Speaker 2: you may have the cultures do not wear active wear 231 00:11:26,265 --> 00:11:27,985 Speaker 2: unless you're going to the gym. Unless you're going to 232 00:11:27,985 --> 00:11:30,785 Speaker 2: the gym, and even then you're wearing your jeans and 233 00:11:30,825 --> 00:11:32,945 Speaker 2: you're changing at the gym and you're changing back into 234 00:11:32,945 --> 00:11:36,185 Speaker 2: your jeans. I was very like too interest when I 235 00:11:36,185 --> 00:11:38,265 Speaker 2: would wear my active wear and then my friends would 236 00:11:38,265 --> 00:11:39,385 Speaker 2: come and visit and I'm like, do you not wear 237 00:11:39,385 --> 00:11:42,745 Speaker 2: your active where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean 238 00:11:42,865 --> 00:11:48,105 Speaker 2: lines tailoring. They mastered that art of that oversize, just 239 00:11:48,145 --> 00:11:53,465 Speaker 2: that like hair oversize for everything. So the shirts, the tailoring, 240 00:11:53,505 --> 00:11:55,465 Speaker 2: and I think when you look at I know you 241 00:11:55,505 --> 00:11:58,665 Speaker 2: talk about like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style, 242 00:11:58,705 --> 00:12:01,385 Speaker 2: and what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful, 243 00:12:01,625 --> 00:12:05,025 Speaker 2: but the everyday person it is more your blacks and 244 00:12:05,065 --> 00:12:07,905 Speaker 2: your mutuels, a bit more toned down, a bit more 245 00:12:07,905 --> 00:12:11,545 Speaker 2: toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's 246 00:12:11,585 --> 00:12:14,025 Speaker 2: at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather. 247 00:12:14,105 --> 00:12:18,105 Speaker 2: But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like 248 00:12:18,185 --> 00:12:20,705 Speaker 2: in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no. 249 00:12:21,625 --> 00:12:23,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, but all you've got undred is a tea. 250 00:12:23,185 --> 00:12:26,425 Speaker 2: But they're probably they've got a great near but they 251 00:12:26,505 --> 00:12:29,825 Speaker 2: know how to use the right fibers to layer so 252 00:12:29,865 --> 00:12:32,985 Speaker 2: that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so intentional 253 00:12:33,025 --> 00:12:36,345 Speaker 2: and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And I 254 00:12:36,385 --> 00:12:37,905 Speaker 2: feel like you brought that home with you because you 255 00:12:37,945 --> 00:12:40,705 Speaker 2: do that very well. Yeah. I love like I definitely 256 00:12:40,745 --> 00:12:43,305 Speaker 2: would never have worn a suit before I went to Sweden, 257 00:12:43,305 --> 00:12:44,985 Speaker 2: and now I like, oh I love a suit. 258 00:12:55,785 --> 00:12:58,385 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there. 259 00:12:58,425 --> 00:13:00,425 Speaker 1: So can you tell us a bit about your favorite 260 00:13:00,425 --> 00:13:02,065 Speaker 1: scandy brands or designers. 261 00:13:02,265 --> 00:13:04,545 Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously love Acne. 262 00:13:04,625 --> 00:13:05,745 Speaker 1: I thought Acne was American. 263 00:13:05,865 --> 00:13:09,225 Speaker 2: No, yeah, they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is 264 00:13:09,305 --> 00:13:12,505 Speaker 2: your g jans that really cool street vibes. But one 265 00:13:12,505 --> 00:13:15,545 Speaker 2: of the creators of Acne has also started Eighties, which 266 00:13:15,625 --> 00:13:19,625 Speaker 2: is great. Look it up. It's e y t Ys. 267 00:13:19,505 --> 00:13:22,745 Speaker 1: Please hold I google everything in these shows. Yes, yt 268 00:13:23,425 --> 00:13:27,305 Speaker 1: Ys really cool. The website is actually down at the moment, 269 00:13:27,345 --> 00:13:29,305 Speaker 1: which is sad, but you can see their stuff on 270 00:13:29,345 --> 00:13:32,025 Speaker 1: you and you can get it on far fettion ss sense. 271 00:13:32,025 --> 00:13:32,545 Speaker 1: I don't even know. 272 00:13:32,625 --> 00:13:37,385 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots, really cool. 273 00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:41,065 Speaker 2: I love Rugby jersey. I was wearing one yesterday. They 274 00:13:41,065 --> 00:13:44,425 Speaker 2: did cool Rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just that 275 00:13:44,465 --> 00:13:48,665 Speaker 2: street style. Oh is it amazing? I didn't even know that. 276 00:13:48,945 --> 00:13:55,425 Speaker 2: Love Stand Studios, lovest Stand Stand Studio Studio, S T, A, 277 00:13:55,705 --> 00:13:59,705 Speaker 2: N D and studios. They do leather, really really good leather, 278 00:13:59,865 --> 00:14:02,665 Speaker 2: so like great leather skirts, great leather jackets. 279 00:14:02,745 --> 00:14:04,425 Speaker 1: So it's an investment price point. 280 00:14:04,345 --> 00:14:07,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, investment price point incredible out of web. So I 281 00:14:07,145 --> 00:14:10,905 Speaker 2: have some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny. 282 00:14:10,945 --> 00:14:12,905 Speaker 2: I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh, 283 00:14:12,985 --> 00:14:14,065 Speaker 2: there's Miranda Priestley. 284 00:14:14,225 --> 00:14:17,105 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've got individual style. 285 00:14:17,825 --> 00:14:22,185 Speaker 2: I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible obviously, and Nina 286 00:14:22,265 --> 00:14:27,105 Speaker 2: being obviously Ganny. It's so fun. Ganny is also really 287 00:14:27,145 --> 00:14:30,865 Speaker 2: good to buy secondhand because it lasts. Look up Jade Cropper. 288 00:14:30,945 --> 00:14:33,385 Speaker 2: That's the brand that all the cool girls. 289 00:14:33,065 --> 00:14:34,225 Speaker 1: Are wearing, the celebrities. 290 00:14:34,305 --> 00:14:37,865 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Kardashians. It's also all that kind of 291 00:14:38,025 --> 00:14:44,185 Speaker 2: draping high high here, the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching. 292 00:14:44,745 --> 00:14:45,865 Speaker 2: I mean like. 293 00:14:45,905 --> 00:14:48,225 Speaker 1: It's yes, look a middriff is four hundred and sixty 294 00:14:48,305 --> 00:14:51,545 Speaker 1: nine dollars, but it's good to ye yes, safe, yeah, 295 00:14:51,585 --> 00:14:53,745 Speaker 1: and sign up to the adms and the newsletters or 296 00:14:53,825 --> 00:14:54,905 Speaker 1: just have a look. Yeah. 297 00:14:54,945 --> 00:14:57,225 Speaker 2: I think it's just also seeing the different styles because 298 00:14:57,945 --> 00:15:00,865 Speaker 2: then you go and you see, oh, what's the dupe version? 299 00:15:00,945 --> 00:15:02,385 Speaker 1: And some of these brands you can get here. I 300 00:15:02,425 --> 00:15:04,665 Speaker 1: mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah. 301 00:15:04,705 --> 00:15:06,785 Speaker 1: I want to talk about not just those brands, but 302 00:15:06,865 --> 00:15:11,065 Speaker 1: sort of globally and in Australia, fashion trends Yep, you've 303 00:15:11,105 --> 00:15:13,785 Speaker 1: talked about how you kind of research them. What are 304 00:15:13,825 --> 00:15:17,305 Speaker 1: your thoughts on them as a topic. Do you find 305 00:15:17,345 --> 00:15:20,345 Speaker 1: they're moving too fast? Do you find we're calling everything 306 00:15:20,385 --> 00:15:21,825 Speaker 1: a trend when it's a color. 307 00:15:21,985 --> 00:15:25,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really 308 00:15:25,145 --> 00:15:27,705 Speaker 2: hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's 309 00:15:27,745 --> 00:15:29,745 Speaker 2: just not worth keeping up. But I also think we 310 00:15:29,865 --> 00:15:33,065 Speaker 2: label things that's just an item as a trend. 311 00:15:33,785 --> 00:15:35,665 Speaker 1: It's great that there's a name, but it kind of 312 00:15:35,705 --> 00:15:37,545 Speaker 1: makes it feel like then it goes in and out, 313 00:15:37,625 --> 00:15:41,025 Speaker 1: when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't 314 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:41,705 Speaker 1: need that lad. 315 00:15:41,785 --> 00:15:45,785 Speaker 2: Yeah that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes, 316 00:15:46,025 --> 00:15:49,985 Speaker 2: So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now. 317 00:15:50,025 --> 00:15:51,665 Speaker 2: But I'll happily tap out. 318 00:15:51,865 --> 00:15:54,745 Speaker 1: So you work in the internet, as I say, yeah, 319 00:15:55,345 --> 00:15:58,265 Speaker 1: and you're almost always in the office when I get here. 320 00:15:58,665 --> 00:16:01,865 Speaker 1: You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online? 321 00:16:01,905 --> 00:16:05,865 Speaker 1: Do you shop iral in real life and either or 322 00:16:06,225 --> 00:16:08,865 Speaker 1: what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely 323 00:16:08,865 --> 00:16:11,545 Speaker 1: always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love 324 00:16:11,585 --> 00:16:14,465 Speaker 1: from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I 325 00:16:14,545 --> 00:16:17,825 Speaker 1: just I love seeing what dish is doing. Love the Iconic. 326 00:16:18,105 --> 00:16:21,105 Speaker 2: The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece 327 00:16:21,145 --> 00:16:23,425 Speaker 2: and you want to know different price points, so you 328 00:16:23,505 --> 00:16:27,785 Speaker 2: use the filters to be like black black jeans. Also, 329 00:16:27,905 --> 00:16:30,465 Speaker 2: I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in 330 00:16:30,505 --> 00:16:31,985 Speaker 2: the sense that you find one piece and then you 331 00:16:32,025 --> 00:16:35,185 Speaker 2: can see all the different versions of it in different prices. 332 00:16:35,585 --> 00:16:38,465 Speaker 2: I always love to invest in swimwear because I just 333 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:40,585 Speaker 2: feel like you show you you're often wearing it, and 334 00:16:40,705 --> 00:16:43,145 Speaker 2: I love a body suit, so I can then use it. 335 00:16:43,545 --> 00:16:47,545 Speaker 2: So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like ONNS 336 00:16:47,585 --> 00:16:49,705 Speaker 2: of g Am I saying it probably and then Efemera 337 00:16:49,865 --> 00:16:52,385 Speaker 2: so like they're my threes e Femera you've had to 338 00:16:52,385 --> 00:16:55,225 Speaker 2: call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece, 339 00:16:55,345 --> 00:16:57,545 Speaker 2: so I always invest there. But also I do that 340 00:16:57,625 --> 00:17:00,825 Speaker 2: online because it's like I know, I know the brands. 341 00:17:01,105 --> 00:17:04,225 Speaker 2: Love going to Vinice. I love it. Yeah, I love it. 342 00:17:04,505 --> 00:17:06,545 Speaker 2: I think you've said it before in the podcast. I 343 00:17:06,545 --> 00:17:11,025 Speaker 2: find it relaxing. I find it like ill. Yes, it's 344 00:17:11,025 --> 00:17:13,625 Speaker 2: such a challenge, it's so enjoyable. 345 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:17,145 Speaker 1: It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something 346 00:17:17,145 --> 00:17:18,545 Speaker 1: from land film exactly. 347 00:17:18,905 --> 00:17:21,905 Speaker 2: I also look out for warehouse sales. Oh, if you 348 00:17:21,945 --> 00:17:26,465 Speaker 2: want to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe, 349 00:17:26,625 --> 00:17:29,465 Speaker 2: look out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it. 350 00:17:29,865 --> 00:17:31,945 Speaker 1: And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know 351 00:17:31,945 --> 00:17:33,945 Speaker 1: people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne, 352 00:17:33,985 --> 00:17:34,985 Speaker 1: are doing them online. 353 00:17:34,865 --> 00:17:36,585 Speaker 2: Archive sales online. 354 00:17:36,625 --> 00:17:38,105 Speaker 1: I really know what I don't want to have to 355 00:17:38,105 --> 00:17:40,185 Speaker 1: go on line up or I can't, or it's in Melbourne. 356 00:17:40,345 --> 00:17:42,265 Speaker 1: Pop it online, we will buy it. 357 00:17:42,585 --> 00:17:46,665 Speaker 2: One thing that I really do with clothes is I 358 00:17:46,745 --> 00:17:51,065 Speaker 2: don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually got 359 00:17:51,065 --> 00:17:54,705 Speaker 2: a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No, 360 00:17:54,825 --> 00:17:59,105 Speaker 2: it's not so I think it's not. It depends on 361 00:17:59,265 --> 00:18:02,945 Speaker 2: if there's something you really like, it's good quality. You know, 362 00:18:03,065 --> 00:18:05,425 Speaker 2: if it fits better, you're going to wear it more. 363 00:18:05,825 --> 00:18:09,065 Speaker 2: So that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually 364 00:18:09,065 --> 00:18:12,985 Speaker 2: worth it. That's why I can shop online because I 365 00:18:13,065 --> 00:18:15,745 Speaker 2: often will go, okay, I'm going to get a bigger 366 00:18:15,825 --> 00:18:18,105 Speaker 2: size and I will get it. 367 00:18:18,145 --> 00:18:21,065 Speaker 1: Take tailored. You're quite tall. Do you have problems with pants? 368 00:18:21,185 --> 00:18:21,385 Speaker 2: Yeah? 369 00:18:21,505 --> 00:18:25,585 Speaker 1: Definitely, pants online is hard. I agree tailoring's worth it. Particularly, 370 00:18:25,585 --> 00:18:27,345 Speaker 1: like you say, if you go to a warehouse sale, 371 00:18:27,385 --> 00:18:30,145 Speaker 1: it's a good quality brand, and you know, maybe you've 372 00:18:30,145 --> 00:18:31,945 Speaker 1: got it seventy percent off. Yes, you might have to 373 00:18:31,945 --> 00:18:33,585 Speaker 1: pay a little bit to get it tweaked, but then 374 00:18:33,665 --> 00:18:35,865 Speaker 1: it's fits you perfectly and you'll have it forever. One 375 00:18:36,185 --> 00:18:38,505 Speaker 1: really good example of this is I bought in a 376 00:18:38,585 --> 00:18:43,305 Speaker 1: Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress that 377 00:18:43,505 --> 00:18:45,185 Speaker 1: it looks like it's a Chanel dress. 378 00:18:45,465 --> 00:18:48,385 Speaker 2: I didn't even look at this size. I got it. 379 00:18:48,705 --> 00:18:51,545 Speaker 2: I got it perfectly tailored for me, and now it does. 380 00:18:51,465 --> 00:18:53,625 Speaker 1: Look like sh yes, and it probably fits you better 381 00:18:53,665 --> 00:18:55,265 Speaker 1: than the way it would have fit if you brought 382 00:18:55,265 --> 00:18:56,905 Speaker 1: it in your size, because you've had it made like 383 00:18:57,105 --> 00:19:00,025 Speaker 1: perfectly to you. Also, I think on that point as well, 384 00:19:00,065 --> 00:19:02,625 Speaker 1: just generally forget the tailoring part, but just I mean, 385 00:19:02,625 --> 00:19:03,985 Speaker 1: you've got to look at the size. But if you're 386 00:19:04,025 --> 00:19:06,145 Speaker 1: shopping in real life, I always will take in three 387 00:19:06,185 --> 00:19:09,625 Speaker 1: different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brand 388 00:19:09,865 --> 00:19:12,825 Speaker 1: I know my size, but then if it's mid rise 389 00:19:12,945 --> 00:19:15,545 Speaker 1: or high rise, you know, you just if you look 390 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:17,625 Speaker 1: at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just 391 00:19:17,665 --> 00:19:20,505 Speaker 1: think of it as a garment, an item, take a 392 00:19:20,505 --> 00:19:22,145 Speaker 1: few to try on, or if there's a good returns 393 00:19:22,145 --> 00:19:22,905 Speaker 1: policy online. 394 00:19:23,065 --> 00:19:25,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always know the returns policy. 395 00:19:24,745 --> 00:19:26,905 Speaker 1: Always know the returns policy, but just yeah, don't let 396 00:19:26,985 --> 00:19:28,585 Speaker 1: that dictate or make you feel bad. 397 00:19:28,825 --> 00:19:29,625 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 398 00:19:29,705 --> 00:19:33,425 Speaker 1: You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of 399 00:19:33,425 --> 00:19:34,425 Speaker 1: sizes in my wardrobe. 400 00:19:34,465 --> 00:19:36,505 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and all brands are so different. 401 00:19:36,745 --> 00:19:39,425 Speaker 1: So it's getting chilly now and you live somewhere that 402 00:19:39,505 --> 00:19:41,145 Speaker 1: got quite chili yeah. 403 00:19:41,065 --> 00:19:43,065 Speaker 2: Minus twenty three degrees chili. 404 00:19:43,425 --> 00:19:48,345 Speaker 1: Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing, 405 00:19:48,705 --> 00:19:50,905 Speaker 1: what you learn from over there or your vibes for now. 406 00:19:51,145 --> 00:19:54,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those 407 00:19:54,625 --> 00:19:57,465 Speaker 2: natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so 408 00:19:57,545 --> 00:20:00,385 Speaker 2: that you can layer. But my trick is to stick 409 00:20:00,425 --> 00:20:03,385 Speaker 2: to the like one silhouette rule, so like either an 410 00:20:03,425 --> 00:20:07,305 Speaker 2: oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle, slimmer bottoms or 411 00:20:07,305 --> 00:20:11,065 Speaker 2: the reverse, because otherwise it can and just get quite chunky. 412 00:20:11,185 --> 00:20:13,025 Speaker 1: Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If 413 00:20:13,025 --> 00:20:14,905 Speaker 1: I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that 414 00:20:14,945 --> 00:20:17,185 Speaker 1: marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must 415 00:20:17,185 --> 00:20:20,425 Speaker 1: stay warm. Yeah, okay, so proportions. 416 00:20:20,425 --> 00:20:24,185 Speaker 2: Proportions is definitely one thing, and I just also think 417 00:20:24,305 --> 00:20:27,545 Speaker 2: everyone should invest in a knitted sleeveless vest. 418 00:20:27,865 --> 00:20:31,505 Speaker 1: Oh what do you mean? You know those like waistcoat style. 419 00:20:31,625 --> 00:20:32,385 Speaker 1: I don't have one. 420 00:20:32,545 --> 00:20:35,305 Speaker 2: I'm going to show you can do some good wine 421 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:38,545 Speaker 2: because they are perfect to put over a shirt, or 422 00:20:39,145 --> 00:20:40,905 Speaker 2: you can just wear it by itself and it's still 423 00:20:40,945 --> 00:20:42,865 Speaker 2: warm because it's that knitted. 424 00:20:43,305 --> 00:20:46,945 Speaker 1: I've thought of about item. Okay, yeah, so I think 425 00:20:46,985 --> 00:20:50,985 Speaker 1: about layering smart not bulky, and really look at the fabric. 426 00:21:02,705 --> 00:21:10,745 Speaker 3: It's very expensive, all right, my, and on to bougie 427 00:21:10,745 --> 00:21:13,025 Speaker 3: and budget okay, kibougie. 428 00:21:13,145 --> 00:21:16,145 Speaker 2: I think I'm actually going to go with Nagnates ride 429 00:21:16,185 --> 00:21:19,345 Speaker 2: ell short. I know that we're going into winter and 430 00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:24,425 Speaker 2: they'll be extremely not appropriate, not really inappropriate, but I 431 00:21:24,585 --> 00:21:26,425 Speaker 2: love a good little mini short. 432 00:21:26,585 --> 00:21:30,425 Speaker 1: Okay for the gym, No, they're made of wool. Yeah, 433 00:21:30,465 --> 00:21:32,745 Speaker 1: have you seenagna I've got a pair of their active 434 00:21:32,745 --> 00:21:35,545 Speaker 1: wear shorts, which I love. Yeah, when I'm active and 435 00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:37,785 Speaker 1: when it's summer, which hasn't been ether recently. 436 00:21:37,865 --> 00:21:41,545 Speaker 2: It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt, 437 00:21:42,145 --> 00:21:44,825 Speaker 2: so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain, 438 00:21:45,185 --> 00:21:47,225 Speaker 2: or it looks really good with an oversized tea and 439 00:21:47,265 --> 00:21:49,225 Speaker 2: then your socks in your sneakers so it'd be part 440 00:21:49,225 --> 00:21:49,865 Speaker 2: of my weekend. 441 00:21:50,345 --> 00:21:53,905 Speaker 1: How much to sixty for a pair for a pair 442 00:21:53,945 --> 00:21:55,785 Speaker 1: of woolen undies for a pair of. 443 00:21:55,745 --> 00:21:57,625 Speaker 2: Wool and undies. But you said I was allowed to 444 00:21:57,665 --> 00:21:58,145 Speaker 2: do bougie. 445 00:21:58,185 --> 00:22:02,825 Speaker 1: You are an Ossie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay, 446 00:22:02,865 --> 00:22:07,425 Speaker 1: so my bougie isn't that bougie. They are a pair 447 00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:10,625 Speaker 1: of pants from an Assie label called Moto Fashion. 448 00:22:10,985 --> 00:22:12,065 Speaker 2: I love these. 449 00:22:12,305 --> 00:22:14,585 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because 450 00:22:14,585 --> 00:22:16,585 Speaker 1: at the time of recording, the Burgundy is sold out. 451 00:22:16,865 --> 00:22:19,665 Speaker 1: They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket pants. I have 452 00:22:19,825 --> 00:22:21,665 Speaker 1: the wine color. 453 00:22:21,745 --> 00:22:24,705 Speaker 2: Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible. 454 00:22:24,745 --> 00:22:28,105 Speaker 1: I love them. They're very comfortable, high waisted, fly button 455 00:22:28,265 --> 00:22:30,065 Speaker 1: pockets at the front, but not that you put anything 456 00:22:30,065 --> 00:22:32,945 Speaker 1: in them. Straight to whiteish. Yeah, I'm not doing the 457 00:22:32,985 --> 00:22:35,225 Speaker 1: tight leather or faux leather at the moment, not that 458 00:22:35,225 --> 00:22:38,265 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that, but they just are so comfortable. 459 00:22:38,785 --> 00:22:41,065 Speaker 1: They're not cropped on me. They might be too short 460 00:22:41,105 --> 00:22:41,945 Speaker 1: on you, they might be a bit. 461 00:22:42,025 --> 00:22:44,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am a bit worried about that for me, but. 462 00:22:44,065 --> 00:22:46,145 Speaker 1: They look so good on honestly, I mean they're one 463 00:22:46,305 --> 00:22:49,505 Speaker 1: fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can 464 00:22:49,545 --> 00:22:52,265 Speaker 1: get cheaper. But they're an Aussie brand. The Navy's beautiful, 465 00:22:52,425 --> 00:22:54,945 Speaker 1: like imagine the Navy with the gray mark. But I 466 00:22:55,065 --> 00:22:56,865 Speaker 1: just love the Burgundy. And they have a really good 467 00:22:56,905 --> 00:23:00,105 Speaker 1: size range of eight to twenty. Yeah, that's incredible, so good. 468 00:23:00,185 --> 00:23:01,745 Speaker 1: So check them out on line and see if they 469 00:23:01,785 --> 00:23:04,905 Speaker 1: do restock the Burgundy. I have message them so fingers crossed. 470 00:23:05,105 --> 00:23:07,945 Speaker 1: All right, budget, my friend. So for my budget, I'm 471 00:23:07,985 --> 00:23:09,905 Speaker 1: going with a kmart piece. Oh yeah. 472 00:23:10,025 --> 00:23:14,265 Speaker 2: It is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It is incredible. 473 00:23:14,345 --> 00:23:16,145 Speaker 2: It comes in a few different colors. 474 00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:17,865 Speaker 1: How many people do you think in the office has that? 475 00:23:18,145 --> 00:23:20,745 Speaker 2: I think it's mandatory, but the quality of it is 476 00:23:20,785 --> 00:23:22,505 Speaker 2: so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in 477 00:23:22,545 --> 00:23:22,985 Speaker 2: a white. 478 00:23:23,065 --> 00:23:24,345 Speaker 1: I wore that and someone said to me it's that 479 00:23:24,385 --> 00:23:26,465 Speaker 1: Luova and I was like, no, but it's very similar. 480 00:23:26,545 --> 00:23:28,705 Speaker 1: Lo twenty five thirty five. 481 00:23:28,825 --> 00:23:31,905 Speaker 2: I think it's twenty five, Yeah, twenty five dollars. It 482 00:23:31,945 --> 00:23:35,825 Speaker 2: would be go perfectly over the Nagnaita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah, 483 00:23:35,865 --> 00:23:36,945 Speaker 2: perfect over wool ants. 484 00:23:36,905 --> 00:23:38,865 Speaker 1: And even though it's cad of a medium weight and 485 00:23:38,905 --> 00:23:41,505 Speaker 1: got that kind of Oxford shirt vibe. You could wear 486 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:44,865 Speaker 1: that over swimmers in summer. Yeah, yeah, shorts, leather pants. 487 00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:46,945 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I love how I'm selling you on your own. 488 00:23:47,145 --> 00:23:47,385 Speaker 2: Yep. 489 00:23:47,985 --> 00:23:51,265 Speaker 1: My budget is a bag from Bellini. It's called the 490 00:23:51,305 --> 00:23:54,785 Speaker 1: Hazel Handlebag. Full price at seventy nine ninety five. At 491 00:23:54,785 --> 00:23:57,785 Speaker 1: the time of recording, it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that 492 00:23:57,825 --> 00:24:00,865 Speaker 1: worst casey is spending eighty dollars. So it's a Mulberry 493 00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:03,465 Speaker 1: kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent. 494 00:24:03,625 --> 00:24:04,785 Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible. 495 00:24:04,905 --> 00:24:06,425 Speaker 1: Now can I tell you why I brought that? Because 496 00:24:06,425 --> 00:24:08,705 Speaker 1: you have unique cool bags that I always ask you about, 497 00:24:08,745 --> 00:24:09,625 Speaker 1: and this felt very ali. 498 00:24:10,305 --> 00:24:13,145 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a Gunny bag that looks very similar. 499 00:24:13,145 --> 00:24:18,025 Speaker 1: Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent, 500 00:24:18,065 --> 00:24:19,865 Speaker 1: which I find where it's quite well. If it's an 501 00:24:19,905 --> 00:24:24,185 Speaker 1: affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag, 502 00:24:24,345 --> 00:24:26,785 Speaker 1: cool buckle like that looks designer. 503 00:24:26,945 --> 00:24:29,225 Speaker 2: I love the gold accent and I love how it's 504 00:24:29,225 --> 00:24:31,785 Speaker 2: cinched in and it's got little gold feet. 505 00:24:31,945 --> 00:24:34,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, with gold feats. Maybe that will become the k 506 00:24:34,345 --> 00:24:38,465 Speaker 1: maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you. 507 00:24:38,465 --> 00:24:40,945 Speaker 1: Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring 508 00:24:40,985 --> 00:24:42,665 Speaker 1: me with your style and I hope you come back 509 00:24:42,705 --> 00:24:43,345 Speaker 1: and join us again. 510 00:24:43,425 --> 00:24:44,905 Speaker 2: Sim Oh, thank you. This was so fun. 511 00:24:44,985 --> 00:24:47,945 Speaker 1: Thank you Lee, Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. 512 00:24:48,025 --> 00:24:49,825 Speaker 1: And if you want the newsletter that goes with his 513 00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:51,785 Speaker 1: show to land in your inbox, head to the show 514 00:24:51,785 --> 00:24:54,705 Speaker 1: notes and click the link. It's free. See you next week. 515 00:24:55,025 --> 00:24:58,425 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production 516 00:24:58,665 --> 00:24:59,385 Speaker 1: by Lou Hill