1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:22,065 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Whoever said orange is 4 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:23,825 Speaker 2: a new pink with seriously. 5 00:00:23,425 --> 00:00:26,385 Speaker 1: Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 6 00:00:26,665 --> 00:00:28,025 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you have. 7 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 1: To do it. You live for fashion. 8 00:00:31,265 --> 00:00:34,065 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 9 00:00:34,145 --> 00:00:37,785 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell. 10 00:00:37,865 --> 00:00:40,425 Speaker 2: In every week, I chat to an expert who helps 11 00:00:40,505 --> 00:00:42,305 Speaker 2: us work out how to get more out of the 12 00:00:42,305 --> 00:00:45,225 Speaker 2: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 13 00:00:45,305 --> 00:00:48,385 Speaker 2: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I am 14 00:00:48,505 --> 00:00:51,985 Speaker 2: thrilled to be joined by someone who truly understands Australian 15 00:00:52,025 --> 00:00:56,585 Speaker 2: fashion from every angle. She's a journalist, a model, a presenter, 16 00:00:56,945 --> 00:01:00,345 Speaker 2: an author and a fellow podcast host with her iconic, 17 00:01:00,625 --> 00:01:04,145 Speaker 2: soft and curious pod, I'm talking about none other than 18 00:01:04,265 --> 00:01:08,505 Speaker 2: Nothing to Wear fath Jessica Lay. She has fifteen years 19 00:01:08,705 --> 00:01:12,145 Speaker 2: experience in the fashion industries. She's worked with iconic Australian 20 00:01:12,225 --> 00:01:16,385 Speaker 2: and international brands like R. M. Williams, Bonds, Ralph Lauren 21 00:01:16,465 --> 00:01:20,025 Speaker 2: and Calvin Klein. No big deal, but I particularly love 22 00:01:20,145 --> 00:01:24,665 Speaker 2: Jess for her unwavering commitment to positive body image, empowerment 23 00:01:24,785 --> 00:01:28,945 Speaker 2: and inclusivity, both in media and in fashion. And today 24 00:01:29,065 --> 00:01:32,825 Speaker 2: she's helping me dissect Australian Fashion Week, which happened last week, 25 00:01:32,865 --> 00:01:34,945 Speaker 2: and we're going to break down how we can adapt 26 00:01:34,985 --> 00:01:37,705 Speaker 2: some of the off the runway styles and trends into 27 00:01:37,745 --> 00:01:40,985 Speaker 2: our everyday wardrobes and basically just talk about what fashion 28 00:01:40,985 --> 00:01:43,545 Speaker 2: week is, why it happens, how it works, and what 29 00:01:43,665 --> 00:01:46,625 Speaker 2: goes on behind the scenes. Hi, friend Jess, Hello, how 30 00:01:46,705 --> 00:01:49,225 Speaker 2: are you so good? Have you lost your voice? After 31 00:01:49,265 --> 00:01:51,385 Speaker 2: fashion Week? There's been a lot of chit chatting, I 32 00:01:51,545 --> 00:01:53,785 Speaker 2: have to say, a lot of small talk, a lot 33 00:01:53,825 --> 00:01:55,625 Speaker 2: of small talk. Well I got to bump into a 34 00:01:55,625 --> 00:01:58,065 Speaker 2: lot last week. But I've known you for a million years, 35 00:01:58,265 --> 00:02:02,265 Speaker 2: Cosmo days and then you're always being dragged into MoMA 36 00:02:02,265 --> 00:02:03,545 Speaker 2: Mia for many things. 37 00:02:03,305 --> 00:02:04,425 Speaker 1: Which I'm always happy about. 38 00:02:04,465 --> 00:02:06,825 Speaker 2: Actually, we love it. Last time you were on here, 39 00:02:07,265 --> 00:02:09,305 Speaker 2: you we talked dopamine dressing. 40 00:02:09,065 --> 00:02:12,945 Speaker 1: We did emotional dress sets. It still rings true for 41 00:02:12,985 --> 00:02:15,665 Speaker 1: me and I've felt it a lot this past week. 42 00:02:15,785 --> 00:02:18,505 Speaker 2: I know, right, it's like anything goes so that's quite exciting. 43 00:02:18,505 --> 00:02:20,785 Speaker 2: But before we get into fashion week, I ask returning 44 00:02:20,825 --> 00:02:25,705 Speaker 2: guests two questions. Do you have the biggest fashion splurge 45 00:02:25,785 --> 00:02:27,825 Speaker 2: or impulse purchase that comes to mind? 46 00:02:28,865 --> 00:02:31,225 Speaker 1: Something that just pops in which I don't regret at all, 47 00:02:31,265 --> 00:02:33,545 Speaker 1: But it was definitely like aUI when I. 48 00:02:33,465 --> 00:02:35,065 Speaker 2: Bought it for the wallet? 49 00:02:35,105 --> 00:02:37,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got a Gucci Jackie bag and that 50 00:02:37,785 --> 00:02:41,545 Speaker 1: was something I bought myself. And how long ago? I 51 00:02:41,585 --> 00:02:45,225 Speaker 1: mean it's I think it was like two years ago. 52 00:02:45,425 --> 00:02:48,385 Speaker 2: And you use her a lot, not as much as 53 00:02:48,385 --> 00:02:49,025 Speaker 2: I should. 54 00:02:48,825 --> 00:02:50,625 Speaker 1: But I am getting a little bit more liberal, and 55 00:02:50,665 --> 00:02:53,545 Speaker 1: also I am trying to be like where your stuff? 56 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:55,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, every day it's on 57 00:02:55,265 --> 00:02:56,505 Speaker 2: an occasion, Yeah, don't. 58 00:02:56,345 --> 00:02:57,905 Speaker 1: Let it just sit in the calico at the top 59 00:02:57,945 --> 00:02:58,665 Speaker 1: of the that's the. 60 00:02:59,265 --> 00:03:02,025 Speaker 2: Spending so important and you've worked so hard and then 61 00:03:02,025 --> 00:03:03,265 Speaker 2: you're like, I don't want to use it. 62 00:03:03,305 --> 00:03:06,145 Speaker 1: But it's like and she's so pretty, she goes with everything. 63 00:03:06,225 --> 00:03:08,505 Speaker 1: She's just black and white. Do you have a style 64 00:03:08,665 --> 00:03:12,705 Speaker 1: muse currently Pamela Anderson, Yes, obsessed. 65 00:03:12,905 --> 00:03:15,265 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that so much. Yeah. 66 00:03:15,305 --> 00:03:17,345 Speaker 1: I just think it's almost just because she's kind of 67 00:03:17,345 --> 00:03:19,985 Speaker 1: returned to herself. I always thought she was the hottest, 68 00:03:20,025 --> 00:03:23,185 Speaker 1: like from back in the day like Baywatch days incredible, 69 00:03:23,225 --> 00:03:25,945 Speaker 1: like her and calm and like I love sexy girls 70 00:03:26,025 --> 00:03:28,745 Speaker 1: me so like that was just so beautiful. But then 71 00:03:28,825 --> 00:03:32,385 Speaker 1: now she's just stepped into this phase where she is 72 00:03:32,465 --> 00:03:34,945 Speaker 1: being herself with her own human skin. 73 00:03:35,305 --> 00:03:37,825 Speaker 2: Yes, And I feel like it's great because what we 74 00:03:37,905 --> 00:03:40,465 Speaker 2: expected of her was to be a sexy girl with 75 00:03:40,785 --> 00:03:44,065 Speaker 2: the eye makeup and the you know, the whole beauty look. 76 00:03:44,105 --> 00:03:49,345 Speaker 2: But she's still just radiating you know, sexuality and just confidence, 77 00:03:49,385 --> 00:03:51,145 Speaker 2: but she doesn't have to do the whole hair and makeup. 78 00:03:51,425 --> 00:03:53,585 Speaker 1: That's just what we're coming to in this day and age, 79 00:03:53,625 --> 00:03:55,865 Speaker 1: like we're getting into that little pointy place where I 80 00:03:55,865 --> 00:03:59,345 Speaker 1: think things are getting a little bit hunger games like irl, Yes, 81 00:03:59,585 --> 00:04:02,585 Speaker 1: and it's just nice to see someone just pulling back 82 00:04:02,585 --> 00:04:04,905 Speaker 1: from that and just being like, I'm actually me do 83 00:04:04,985 --> 00:04:06,745 Speaker 1: what I want, and I'm going to kind of look 84 00:04:06,785 --> 00:04:09,425 Speaker 1: how I want to look and actually look like myself anyway. 85 00:04:09,425 --> 00:04:11,985 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful to see someone just like, yeah, kind 86 00:04:11,985 --> 00:04:14,425 Speaker 1: of embracing what they actually look like. I love that, 87 00:04:14,785 --> 00:04:15,065 Speaker 1: all right. 88 00:04:15,105 --> 00:04:17,505 Speaker 2: I want to talk Fashion Week. Most people don't know 89 00:04:17,625 --> 00:04:19,665 Speaker 2: exactly when I say most people, you know, it's an 90 00:04:19,705 --> 00:04:22,705 Speaker 2: industry event. So the lay person who doesn't work in 91 00:04:22,745 --> 00:04:25,745 Speaker 2: fashion doesn't really understand what it's about. So can you 92 00:04:25,745 --> 00:04:28,345 Speaker 2: give us a quick rundown? You know, what are we 93 00:04:28,425 --> 00:04:30,905 Speaker 2: seeing and why and when are the normal people going 94 00:04:30,945 --> 00:04:31,305 Speaker 2: to see it? 95 00:04:31,465 --> 00:04:34,305 Speaker 1: Well? I think what we're seeing is we're seeing what 96 00:04:34,345 --> 00:04:37,145 Speaker 1: the designers are bringing out, obviously for their next collections. 97 00:04:37,225 --> 00:04:40,545 Speaker 1: And usually it's always about you know, the buyers getting 98 00:04:40,585 --> 00:04:43,305 Speaker 1: to have a look and then they can purchase, you know, 99 00:04:43,385 --> 00:04:46,265 Speaker 1: in order whatever is because not everything on the runway 100 00:04:46,305 --> 00:04:49,265 Speaker 1: gets made, right, So that's why some things look kind 101 00:04:49,265 --> 00:04:51,385 Speaker 1: of crazy in outlandish and people like as if anyone's 102 00:04:51,425 --> 00:04:53,465 Speaker 1: ever going to wear that, And some of those pieces 103 00:04:53,505 --> 00:04:57,465 Speaker 1: are only just to show off like the aesthetic of 104 00:04:57,505 --> 00:05:00,905 Speaker 1: the brand, yes, and then other pieces are obviously ready 105 00:05:00,945 --> 00:05:03,465 Speaker 1: to wear and like you know, if someone comes in 106 00:05:03,505 --> 00:05:05,625 Speaker 1: there like we want that top, that's skirt, blah blah blah. 107 00:05:05,705 --> 00:05:07,745 Speaker 1: But that's what gets made. Yeah, So that's what fashion 108 00:05:07,745 --> 00:05:10,745 Speaker 1: week is about. It's about showcasing what they're acting they 109 00:05:10,785 --> 00:05:13,705 Speaker 1: want to create for the next season. 110 00:05:13,905 --> 00:05:15,545 Speaker 2: Yes, so it's a bit of a crystal ball for 111 00:05:15,785 --> 00:05:18,425 Speaker 2: I guess you and I I mean you model and 112 00:05:18,545 --> 00:05:20,945 Speaker 2: to ten, I saw your running around last week going backstage, 113 00:05:20,945 --> 00:05:23,465 Speaker 2: front stage, all over the place and for us, you know, 114 00:05:23,585 --> 00:05:26,065 Speaker 2: as media, it's for us to know what's coming up, 115 00:05:26,225 --> 00:05:29,225 Speaker 2: and like you say, buyers in Australia but also internationally 116 00:05:29,385 --> 00:05:32,825 Speaker 2: going okay, that brand's great, and yeah, let's okay. I've 117 00:05:32,825 --> 00:05:34,905 Speaker 2: seen you know, a lot more a lot of Sheer again, 118 00:05:35,025 --> 00:05:37,065 Speaker 2: so you know, she is coming as a trend overall, 119 00:05:37,145 --> 00:05:40,065 Speaker 2: so kind of everyone kind of getting across what's coming up. 120 00:05:40,105 --> 00:05:41,745 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people don't realize there 121 00:05:41,745 --> 00:05:44,665 Speaker 1: are some Australian brands that do really well overseas, yes, 122 00:05:44,785 --> 00:05:49,065 Speaker 1: more than you know in Australia, like you know, even 123 00:05:49,105 --> 00:05:51,625 Speaker 1: in like Arab markets and things like that, because it's 124 00:05:51,865 --> 00:05:54,465 Speaker 1: that modesty dressing. And I think we've got some beautiful brands, 125 00:05:54,465 --> 00:05:57,345 Speaker 1: Like I know that Zimmerman did really well overseas before 126 00:05:57,465 --> 00:05:59,545 Speaker 1: they kind of did well in Australia. Yes, yeah, yeah, 127 00:05:59,945 --> 00:06:02,385 Speaker 1: they did do well, but it was just like you know, 128 00:06:02,465 --> 00:06:04,425 Speaker 1: that kind of modesty dressing even when. 129 00:06:04,345 --> 00:06:06,705 Speaker 2: You travel to if I ever walked past to Zimmerman 130 00:06:06,825 --> 00:06:09,945 Speaker 2: or I saw Alimes when I was overseas, and I'm like, 131 00:06:10,065 --> 00:06:12,305 Speaker 2: I'm so proud, and you forget that, you know, our 132 00:06:12,345 --> 00:06:14,705 Speaker 2: beautiful brands that you know, are big names. 133 00:06:14,425 --> 00:06:18,145 Speaker 1: But they're global totally. I mean, Nagnat are huge globally. 134 00:06:18,465 --> 00:06:20,185 Speaker 2: So cool. I love that we're going to talk about 135 00:06:20,185 --> 00:06:22,545 Speaker 2: that in a little bit. How many years or how 136 00:06:22,545 --> 00:06:25,945 Speaker 2: long have you been attending or been involved in Fashion Week? 137 00:06:26,065 --> 00:06:28,225 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been involved since like my late 138 00:06:28,265 --> 00:06:29,745 Speaker 1: teen since I started modeling. 139 00:06:29,865 --> 00:06:32,545 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're not giving me a time frame like 140 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:35,905 Speaker 2: fifteen years. Yeah, yeah, so about that. 141 00:06:36,625 --> 00:06:39,265 Speaker 1: But I feel like this year is the funnest year 142 00:06:39,305 --> 00:06:42,865 Speaker 1: for me because I feel like finally I have friends there, 143 00:06:42,905 --> 00:06:45,465 Speaker 1: Like it feels a bit familiar and I feel less. 144 00:06:45,545 --> 00:06:47,585 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like anywhere you feel like you 145 00:06:47,705 --> 00:06:49,945 Speaker 1: finally built up a bit more of a community. Yes, 146 00:06:50,145 --> 00:06:52,265 Speaker 1: so it's a lot more fun now to attend rather 147 00:06:52,305 --> 00:06:54,425 Speaker 1: than like kind of daunting. It's more like I'm going 148 00:06:54,465 --> 00:06:55,825 Speaker 1: to go see what my friends have made. 149 00:06:55,905 --> 00:06:58,345 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you that because I think I've 150 00:06:58,385 --> 00:07:00,505 Speaker 2: had some dms on Instagram saying, oh my gosh, is 151 00:07:00,505 --> 00:07:03,745 Speaker 2: it intimidating? Is everyone wearing head to toe designer? So 152 00:07:03,865 --> 00:07:07,465 Speaker 2: do you find it intimidating or I guess not now. 153 00:07:07,585 --> 00:07:10,825 Speaker 2: But it's an interesting question to ask because personally, I 154 00:07:10,905 --> 00:07:15,425 Speaker 2: love Australian fashion. I like the fashion shows, but I 155 00:07:15,465 --> 00:07:18,225 Speaker 2: do find Fashion Week as an attendee and I'm not 156 00:07:18,265 --> 00:07:20,225 Speaker 2: even modeling or I don't know, I just turn up 157 00:07:20,865 --> 00:07:24,385 Speaker 2: quite overwhelming. Do you think it's clicking, like for the 158 00:07:24,425 --> 00:07:27,505 Speaker 2: outside person, do you think that that reputation or that 159 00:07:28,145 --> 00:07:29,305 Speaker 2: stereotype is true. 160 00:07:29,425 --> 00:07:32,905 Speaker 1: I think everything I would feel intimidated if I walked into, like, 161 00:07:33,505 --> 00:07:34,945 Speaker 1: you know, an accounting. 162 00:07:34,465 --> 00:07:36,665 Speaker 2: Meeting for your first time. 163 00:07:36,785 --> 00:07:39,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know what I'm talking about, and 164 00:07:39,185 --> 00:07:41,585 Speaker 1: I don't have colleagues or peers in that room. I 165 00:07:41,625 --> 00:07:45,545 Speaker 1: think everything is intimidating if it's not you, if you're 166 00:07:45,625 --> 00:07:48,185 Speaker 1: still getting to know, yeah, the colleagues and peers that 167 00:07:48,225 --> 00:07:50,505 Speaker 1: you have. I feel like, now after all these years, 168 00:07:50,585 --> 00:07:54,185 Speaker 1: I have friends who I like genuinely are my mates. Yeah, 169 00:07:54,225 --> 00:07:57,625 Speaker 1: which is so nice, but obviously yeah, Like I think 170 00:07:57,665 --> 00:07:59,625 Speaker 1: people always want to poopo it as something that's a 171 00:07:59,665 --> 00:08:02,665 Speaker 1: little bit superficial, you know. It's like people do want 172 00:08:02,705 --> 00:08:04,505 Speaker 1: to make clothes feel superficial a lot. 173 00:08:04,705 --> 00:08:05,065 Speaker 2: Yes. 174 00:08:05,145 --> 00:08:07,545 Speaker 1: And the thing is is I always say to that, like, 175 00:08:07,785 --> 00:08:11,185 Speaker 1: well wear something you're uncomfortable and see how much it matters. 176 00:08:11,305 --> 00:08:13,585 Speaker 1: So you know what I mean, Like it's a choice 177 00:08:13,585 --> 00:08:15,945 Speaker 1: that you're making every day, and yeah, these are the 178 00:08:15,945 --> 00:08:18,585 Speaker 1: people that are bringing you, yeah, you know the trends 179 00:08:18,625 --> 00:08:21,385 Speaker 1: and yeah, and often they're pretty like cookie and weird 180 00:08:21,425 --> 00:08:23,865 Speaker 1: and like they were the outsiders. So it's like they 181 00:08:23,985 --> 00:08:26,465 Speaker 1: finally kind of found their people in their place. I agree. 182 00:08:26,545 --> 00:08:29,785 Speaker 2: I've just loved watching the diversity of what people are 183 00:08:29,785 --> 00:08:32,225 Speaker 2: wearing and the expression. You know, this is art. You know, 184 00:08:32,305 --> 00:08:34,665 Speaker 2: you wouldn't say an art gallery or you know, an 185 00:08:34,745 --> 00:08:37,505 Speaker 2: art exhibition is superficial, but this is people wearing art 186 00:08:37,625 --> 00:08:39,865 Speaker 2: or creating art, and it's just on people's bodies instead 187 00:08:39,865 --> 00:08:40,545 Speaker 2: of on a campus. 188 00:08:40,625 --> 00:08:42,185 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think once you know the history of 189 00:08:42,185 --> 00:08:44,985 Speaker 1: fashion and things like that, it's it's more interesting. You know. 190 00:08:45,025 --> 00:08:46,865 Speaker 1: You can see like when I say the Jackie bag, 191 00:08:46,905 --> 00:08:48,385 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking? Yes, do you know what 192 00:08:48,465 --> 00:08:51,065 Speaker 1: I mean? Like it's Jackie, Oh, it's that bag? You 193 00:08:51,105 --> 00:08:53,905 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like there is history We're 194 00:08:53,945 --> 00:08:55,545 Speaker 1: woven into people's clothes. 195 00:08:55,665 --> 00:08:58,025 Speaker 2: And in Australia too. You know, I was chatting to 196 00:08:58,065 --> 00:08:59,745 Speaker 2: someone last week and we were talking about, you know, 197 00:08:59,785 --> 00:09:02,545 Speaker 2: when Sassen Bibe was Sassin Byde and the Rats leggings 198 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:04,625 Speaker 2: and you know that looking we were looking back at 199 00:09:04,625 --> 00:09:07,465 Speaker 2: old age photos from you know, ten years ago and 200 00:09:07,465 --> 00:09:11,025 Speaker 2: that sort of sequin skirt. You know, Australian fashion does 201 00:09:11,065 --> 00:09:13,625 Speaker 2: have that heritage and it's quite nice to see that 202 00:09:13,665 --> 00:09:15,505 Speaker 2: evolve over the decades. 203 00:09:15,105 --> 00:09:17,065 Speaker 1: Totally, and I think you only get a perspective of 204 00:09:17,145 --> 00:09:19,065 Speaker 1: time when you've lived through trends. 205 00:09:28,105 --> 00:09:35,425 Speaker 2: Talk to me about what you loved last week, standout trends, looks, shows, attendees, anything, well. 206 00:09:35,505 --> 00:09:38,745 Speaker 1: I obviously the week started with Colors and Patty, which 207 00:09:38,825 --> 00:09:41,985 Speaker 1: was beautiful and I think was super fitting. And the 208 00:09:42,025 --> 00:09:46,225 Speaker 1: Carriageworks showroom, which, even though the Carla show was in 209 00:09:46,385 --> 00:09:49,825 Speaker 1: Circular Key, the Carriagework showroom has been called the Colors 210 00:09:49,825 --> 00:09:52,665 Speaker 1: and Patty Room, so I think that's a really nice 211 00:09:52,825 --> 00:09:56,825 Speaker 1: nod beautiful with that legacy. The show was very Carlor like, 212 00:09:57,105 --> 00:10:01,065 Speaker 1: you know, it was those silhouettes, lots of beautiful like 213 00:10:01,225 --> 00:10:06,625 Speaker 1: feminine shapes, like flouncy. Rachel Rutt was wearing this beautiful 214 00:10:07,225 --> 00:10:11,065 Speaker 1: polka dot dress which was so floating and gorgeous, like 215 00:10:11,105 --> 00:10:14,425 Speaker 1: a kind of hole to neck, and then she had 216 00:10:14,665 --> 00:10:16,305 Speaker 1: elbow length leather gloves on. 217 00:10:16,425 --> 00:10:16,905 Speaker 2: Amazing. 218 00:10:17,145 --> 00:10:19,985 Speaker 1: I loved it. I was like, that is sick, you know, 219 00:10:20,265 --> 00:10:23,505 Speaker 1: like that that kind of contrast because I love being girly, 220 00:10:23,625 --> 00:10:25,545 Speaker 1: but I also think that I love it to kind 221 00:10:25,585 --> 00:10:27,625 Speaker 1: of like, you know, mess it up a little bit 222 00:10:27,665 --> 00:10:28,985 Speaker 1: as well. So that was gorgeous. 223 00:10:29,025 --> 00:10:31,785 Speaker 2: And I think also for us getting dressed at home, 224 00:10:31,825 --> 00:10:33,625 Speaker 2: it's kind of like the wrong shoe theory, but you 225 00:10:33,625 --> 00:10:35,745 Speaker 2: can apply it to anything in new ordrobe and like 226 00:10:36,025 --> 00:10:38,425 Speaker 2: technically if it doesn't go, that's kind of great. It 227 00:10:38,425 --> 00:10:40,865 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be your matchy match or just try it. 228 00:10:41,185 --> 00:10:44,145 Speaker 1: I think something has to draw the eye to go. 229 00:10:44,305 --> 00:10:46,025 Speaker 1: Do I like that or not? Like it's got to 230 00:10:46,145 --> 00:10:47,345 Speaker 1: you don't want to walk in the room and have 231 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:49,745 Speaker 1: no one have kind of an opinion on your outfit. 232 00:10:49,865 --> 00:10:51,065 Speaker 1: I feel anyway, I want. 233 00:10:50,945 --> 00:10:53,265 Speaker 2: Someone's somewhere you're going if you go into your accounting meetings. 234 00:10:53,385 --> 00:10:55,505 Speaker 2: We spoke earlier, Yeah. 235 00:10:55,265 --> 00:10:57,745 Speaker 1: But yes, and then I think another standout show for 236 00:10:57,785 --> 00:10:58,705 Speaker 1: me was obviously. 237 00:10:58,425 --> 00:11:00,465 Speaker 2: Nagnata Yes amazing. 238 00:11:00,585 --> 00:11:02,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, Laura and Hannah they is that their first show 239 00:11:03,105 --> 00:11:05,745 Speaker 1: that was their first on schedule show, yeah, which they 240 00:11:05,785 --> 00:11:08,425 Speaker 1: haven't shown on schedule before, and it was really big 241 00:11:08,465 --> 00:11:11,225 Speaker 1: for them because they launched Denim. Yes, it was super excited. 242 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:13,785 Speaker 2: I loved it because if for listeners that don't know. 243 00:11:13,825 --> 00:11:16,945 Speaker 2: It's kind of an active way brand, but I'd more 244 00:11:16,985 --> 00:11:18,345 Speaker 2: say a lifestyle brand. 245 00:11:18,385 --> 00:11:18,625 Speaker 1: You know. 246 00:11:18,745 --> 00:11:20,745 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of their shorts and I just 247 00:11:20,825 --> 00:11:23,305 Speaker 2: kind of wear them in summer with thongs and an 248 00:11:23,305 --> 00:11:26,145 Speaker 2: oversized shirt around to do chores. And I mean, I'm 249 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:29,745 Speaker 2: not really an exercise person, but it was all beautifully 250 00:11:29,785 --> 00:11:32,625 Speaker 2: tonal and I loved it. 251 00:11:32,665 --> 00:11:35,705 Speaker 1: Makething else that you love? Oh what else should I love? 252 00:11:35,905 --> 00:11:39,145 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like my outfit today is hands 253 00:11:39,225 --> 00:11:40,865 Speaker 1: and gradel. Yes, I loved. 254 00:11:40,945 --> 00:11:42,905 Speaker 2: I was saying to you before we started filming. I 255 00:11:42,945 --> 00:11:45,345 Speaker 2: love velvet, but I if I wear it, I look 256 00:11:45,385 --> 00:11:47,305 Speaker 2: like I'm going to be in a pantomime for school. 257 00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:50,945 Speaker 2: But you can just do velvet so well, it's such 258 00:11:50,945 --> 00:11:51,985 Speaker 2: a lux fabric. 259 00:11:52,145 --> 00:11:55,985 Speaker 1: I love. I do love like a silky piece, like 260 00:11:56,145 --> 00:11:57,505 Speaker 1: you know, silk laundry. 261 00:11:57,665 --> 00:12:00,465 Speaker 2: Yeah, I Laundry, which is another Aussie brand in the show. 262 00:12:00,585 --> 00:12:02,545 Speaker 1: I think you'd have talked about that before, yea, Yeah, 263 00:12:02,585 --> 00:12:04,665 Speaker 1: I love, I love silky. I love it's great to 264 00:12:04,705 --> 00:12:05,585 Speaker 1: fly in velvet. 265 00:12:06,465 --> 00:12:10,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is all right, first class. Actually, I do 266 00:12:10,305 --> 00:12:13,305 Speaker 2: have like wide legged, black oversized pants, elastic waists that 267 00:12:13,425 --> 00:12:16,665 Speaker 2: a velvet that's genius. I know they go for traxit pants. 268 00:12:16,785 --> 00:12:18,585 Speaker 2: They feel like shaks. 269 00:12:18,345 --> 00:12:20,585 Speaker 1: Feel like trackies, but you don't feel like, oh, I'm 270 00:12:20,625 --> 00:12:23,025 Speaker 1: just walking around in my trackies all the time. Yeah, no, 271 00:12:23,105 --> 00:12:23,545 Speaker 1: it's good. 272 00:12:24,065 --> 00:12:28,665 Speaker 2: I personally loved Negali. It was the most beautiful, like 273 00:12:28,785 --> 00:12:31,945 Speaker 2: the prints were. They're all indigenous prints and they were 274 00:12:32,105 --> 00:12:36,945 Speaker 2: just so beautifully crafted with the garments that it just 275 00:12:37,105 --> 00:12:41,145 Speaker 2: felt fresh and different but not sort of trying to 276 00:12:41,185 --> 00:12:43,105 Speaker 2: make a statement and out there there were some beautiful 277 00:12:43,145 --> 00:12:45,665 Speaker 2: browns and Beija's. As you can tell, I'm a neutral girl. 278 00:12:45,745 --> 00:12:48,305 Speaker 2: I just thought that was so beautiful. And for me, 279 00:12:48,465 --> 00:12:50,865 Speaker 2: I always loved bian Caspenda, which is interesting that you 280 00:12:50,905 --> 00:12:55,065 Speaker 2: mentioned Krla Biancaspender is her daughter. I think she's my 281 00:12:55,145 --> 00:12:58,945 Speaker 2: favorite Australian fancy designer. It's all that sort of classic 282 00:12:59,025 --> 00:13:01,825 Speaker 2: tailoring but a bit of structure. There was some beautiful 283 00:13:01,865 --> 00:13:05,345 Speaker 2: sort of billowing like almost strapless tops, and then these 284 00:13:05,425 --> 00:13:08,025 Speaker 2: amazing satin pants that are structured at the top but 285 00:13:08,065 --> 00:13:10,265 Speaker 2: then kind of billowing at the bottom. And she introduced 286 00:13:10,305 --> 00:13:12,025 Speaker 2: swim which I thought was quite cool. It was a 287 00:13:12,345 --> 00:13:15,185 Speaker 2: very yeah, it was very hers, so not I wouldn't 288 00:13:15,185 --> 00:13:19,905 Speaker 2: say conservative, but very sort of classic. I have so 289 00:13:19,945 --> 00:13:21,705 Speaker 2: many of her pieces that I've bought many years ago 290 00:13:21,745 --> 00:13:23,425 Speaker 2: and they still look brand new. And so while it's 291 00:13:23,585 --> 00:13:26,385 Speaker 2: expensive price point and they you know, they're classic enough 292 00:13:26,385 --> 00:13:28,105 Speaker 2: to keep wearing, but like you say, a little bit 293 00:13:28,145 --> 00:13:30,305 Speaker 2: structur all different that every time I wear it, people 294 00:13:30,345 --> 00:13:32,585 Speaker 2: will be like, where's that from. I'm like Biancaspander and 295 00:13:32,625 --> 00:13:33,825 Speaker 2: they got to look for it. I'm like, oh no, it's 296 00:13:33,865 --> 00:13:38,065 Speaker 2: like eight years old. Thoughts on fashion Week and size, 297 00:13:38,145 --> 00:13:42,745 Speaker 2: inclusivity and diversity, you know, all encompassing. I've saw a 298 00:13:42,745 --> 00:13:45,025 Speaker 2: lot of I hate to say older, but I saw 299 00:13:45,225 --> 00:13:49,825 Speaker 2: a really nice representation of women that weren't twenty. What 300 00:13:49,865 --> 00:13:52,945 Speaker 2: are your thoughts because you were front stage and backstage, Yeah, you. 301 00:13:52,905 --> 00:13:54,425 Speaker 1: Know, I feel like they were going to always have 302 00:13:54,465 --> 00:13:57,545 Speaker 1: this conversation about like diversity when it comes to you know, 303 00:13:57,705 --> 00:14:00,585 Speaker 1: size and race and age and gender and all that 304 00:14:00,665 --> 00:14:03,785 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Obviously my answer is always the same 305 00:14:03,865 --> 00:14:05,225 Speaker 1: year after, could. 306 00:14:04,985 --> 00:14:06,705 Speaker 2: Be better, could be better, could be better. 307 00:14:06,825 --> 00:14:10,385 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's less token ISTI now 308 00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:14,905 Speaker 1: like we actually know the model's names. You know, those curvier. 309 00:14:14,585 --> 00:14:17,585 Speaker 2: Girls, you know, they're not just quickly finding someone on 310 00:14:17,625 --> 00:14:18,825 Speaker 2: social media as a ring in. 311 00:14:18,985 --> 00:14:21,225 Speaker 1: I think I think it's like, yeah, we've seen girls 312 00:14:21,305 --> 00:14:24,065 Speaker 1: year after year on that runway, which is really nice 313 00:14:24,105 --> 00:14:26,225 Speaker 1: because it's that's what it's all about. It's about making 314 00:14:26,265 --> 00:14:30,425 Speaker 1: someone a personality, someone recognizable. It's not just about finding 315 00:14:30,505 --> 00:14:34,585 Speaker 1: you know, the yeah, feeling a brief and just recitling. 316 00:14:34,665 --> 00:14:36,625 Speaker 2: Because then everyone else is yeah. 317 00:14:36,785 --> 00:14:38,905 Speaker 1: So it's it's I feel like, I feel like it 318 00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:42,345 Speaker 1: could be better in terms of everything, but the age, 319 00:14:42,985 --> 00:14:45,585 Speaker 1: the age I love, and I just think it's just 320 00:14:45,665 --> 00:14:49,145 Speaker 1: less shocking now to see like that's personally how I feel. 321 00:14:49,145 --> 00:14:52,225 Speaker 1: And that's where I see that gap being bridged, is 322 00:14:52,785 --> 00:14:56,985 Speaker 1: where I'm not shocked to see an older woman or 323 00:14:57,025 --> 00:15:00,145 Speaker 1: you know, come down the runway. I'm excited and I 324 00:15:00,185 --> 00:15:02,705 Speaker 1: and I don't even notice, and you know, we're all 325 00:15:02,745 --> 00:15:05,465 Speaker 1: going to get older, and I'm frankly like pretty sick 326 00:15:05,545 --> 00:15:08,865 Speaker 1: of the lack of acknowledgment of I've reposted this thing 327 00:15:09,065 --> 00:15:11,985 Speaker 1: that Andy me Dal had like a video and someone 328 00:15:11,985 --> 00:15:13,585 Speaker 1: asked her like, oh, now that you're over forty and 329 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:16,105 Speaker 1: you're losing your beauty, Like she talks about this question 330 00:15:16,185 --> 00:15:18,825 Speaker 1: that she got and because you know, Andy McDowell was 331 00:15:18,905 --> 00:15:21,505 Speaker 1: just like forever the face of was it lorial? 332 00:15:21,665 --> 00:15:24,185 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it's one of those big beauty faces forever. 333 00:15:24,305 --> 00:15:26,425 Speaker 1: And then remember when she went into Made and she 334 00:15:26,545 --> 00:15:28,825 Speaker 1: had her hair and it was like gray, and yeah, 335 00:15:28,865 --> 00:15:30,905 Speaker 1: she looked her age like, you know, she's what is 336 00:15:30,905 --> 00:15:33,505 Speaker 1: she in her sixties? I think so she looks incredible, 337 00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:35,505 Speaker 1: but like she looks like a six aged. 338 00:15:35,745 --> 00:15:38,705 Speaker 2: Beauty is not about age, you know, it's not. I 339 00:15:38,945 --> 00:15:41,905 Speaker 2: was quick segue, but I was on mid which is 340 00:15:41,985 --> 00:15:44,305 Speaker 2: Muma MIA's podcast for women who are mid thirty, forty 341 00:15:44,305 --> 00:15:46,465 Speaker 2: fifty sixties, and I had that question on Instagram too 342 00:15:46,505 --> 00:15:48,705 Speaker 2: once and I was like, well, I'm not a banana, 343 00:15:48,905 --> 00:15:51,345 Speaker 2: I'm not ham and women aren't something that go off 344 00:15:51,425 --> 00:15:53,945 Speaker 2: after a you know, we can be a beautiful vintage 345 00:15:54,025 --> 00:15:56,785 Speaker 2: chair or building, and you know, I think that's right, 346 00:15:56,985 --> 00:16:01,385 Speaker 2: but it's true because you know, women wear fashion of 347 00:16:01,465 --> 00:16:03,665 Speaker 2: all different sizes, of all different ages, and I like 348 00:16:03,785 --> 00:16:05,705 Speaker 2: it to you know, a footballer, it's like, well, once 349 00:16:05,745 --> 00:16:09,665 Speaker 2: they're thirty, they're out. And it's oftentimes with models it's like, oh, 350 00:16:09,705 --> 00:16:11,225 Speaker 2: in your thirties, now, what are you going to do 351 00:16:11,305 --> 00:16:13,225 Speaker 2: for your real career after that? And it's like no, 352 00:16:13,985 --> 00:16:17,825 Speaker 2: women still work in that industry regardless of their age. 353 00:16:17,865 --> 00:16:19,865 Speaker 2: So it's nice to see, but I hope we continue 354 00:16:19,865 --> 00:16:23,305 Speaker 2: to see more. Yeah, and it just becomes subconscious before 355 00:16:23,345 --> 00:16:25,985 Speaker 2: I ask you just about other Aussie faves. I was 356 00:16:26,025 --> 00:16:28,105 Speaker 2: stopped last week. I wish I knew the publication. It 357 00:16:28,145 --> 00:16:30,145 Speaker 2: was a video and someone asked me about what I 358 00:16:30,225 --> 00:16:34,385 Speaker 2: thought about Australian street style. You know, you go to 359 00:16:34,505 --> 00:16:36,505 Speaker 2: Westfield and you see seeds of linen and all the 360 00:16:36,505 --> 00:16:38,865 Speaker 2: same colors. You go to fashion Week and it is 361 00:16:39,065 --> 00:16:42,265 Speaker 2: so varied and so individual that I'm clocking all these 362 00:16:42,305 --> 00:16:46,225 Speaker 2: amazing different things. But when I was asked to sum 363 00:16:46,345 --> 00:16:49,105 Speaker 2: up Australian street style, give me your thoughts. 364 00:16:49,305 --> 00:16:52,825 Speaker 1: It depends, like you know, Melbourne is very different to Sydney, Like, 365 00:16:52,905 --> 00:16:55,785 Speaker 1: you know, Melbourne is very New York, Sydney's very la 366 00:16:56,145 --> 00:16:59,545 Speaker 1: I think the temperature does change the way people dress 367 00:16:59,625 --> 00:17:01,585 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, and you know Sydney is a 368 00:17:01,585 --> 00:17:04,185 Speaker 1: bit more like cleavage and shearing, a bit more. 369 00:17:04,105 --> 00:17:06,505 Speaker 2: Like statemental yeah yeah, and. 370 00:17:06,465 --> 00:17:08,265 Speaker 1: Then Melbourn's a bit more covered up and like you know, 371 00:17:08,385 --> 00:17:09,825 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, bookish. 372 00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:12,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true what I saw last week. Because 373 00:17:12,305 --> 00:17:13,785 Speaker 2: when they asked me that, I was like, well, look, 374 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:17,065 Speaker 2: if I'm just looking at street style images of I 375 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:19,105 Speaker 2: know it's Copenhagen Fashion Week, you can just tell, or 376 00:17:19,105 --> 00:17:22,225 Speaker 2: you can tell it's New York. Whereas I said Australian 377 00:17:22,225 --> 00:17:25,505 Speaker 2: Fashion Week, for me last week was you probably couldn't 378 00:17:25,505 --> 00:17:28,265 Speaker 2: really tell. It felt like not so much London Fashion Week, 379 00:17:28,265 --> 00:17:32,025 Speaker 2: but just being out in London. So many different trends, looks, 380 00:17:32,745 --> 00:17:36,185 Speaker 2: not trends, just really creative outfits that you can't really 381 00:17:36,225 --> 00:17:38,905 Speaker 2: go Okay. Besides rad everyone was wearing red and burgundy. 382 00:17:39,105 --> 00:17:40,905 Speaker 2: There wasn't There were a lot of red, so did I. 383 00:17:42,225 --> 00:17:45,145 Speaker 2: But what I loved was that there was just such 384 00:17:45,145 --> 00:17:49,105 Speaker 2: a huge array of different looks, different trends. 385 00:17:49,465 --> 00:17:53,625 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the thing is about like Australia, I 386 00:17:53,665 --> 00:17:56,185 Speaker 1: wouldn't say we have like a distinct signature of how 387 00:17:56,225 --> 00:17:59,385 Speaker 1: we dress. Really like we're still pretty mismatched. We're very 388 00:17:59,465 --> 00:18:02,585 Speaker 1: multicultural society in terms of like I feel like people 389 00:18:02,625 --> 00:18:04,985 Speaker 1: go away, find themselves and come back. Like I moved 390 00:18:05,025 --> 00:18:07,345 Speaker 1: to London when I was younger, so I feel like 391 00:18:07,505 --> 00:18:10,665 Speaker 1: my kind of confidence in dressing is like I don't 392 00:18:10,665 --> 00:18:13,625 Speaker 1: mind if I look a little bit like Loud and Larry, because. 393 00:18:13,385 --> 00:18:15,025 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what I love about you, and I 394 00:18:15,025 --> 00:18:17,305 Speaker 2: ask you to come back time and time again, because 395 00:18:17,585 --> 00:18:19,985 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the right phrase is, 396 00:18:19,985 --> 00:18:21,945 Speaker 2: but people would say you're a curve model, which is 397 00:18:21,945 --> 00:18:25,025 Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous because you're smaller than the standard Australian woman. 398 00:18:25,945 --> 00:18:27,505 Speaker 1: But I love fluctuate. 399 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:31,465 Speaker 2: I don't really fluctually, but you wear what you want. 400 00:18:31,545 --> 00:18:34,665 Speaker 2: You look phenomenal. You use confidence from your Instagram and 401 00:18:34,705 --> 00:18:36,145 Speaker 2: knowing you in real life and I mostly see you 402 00:18:36,145 --> 00:18:39,905 Speaker 2: on Instagram. That is so inspiring and that sounds really 403 00:18:40,025 --> 00:18:42,545 Speaker 2: kind of like lip service, but it's not. You're just like, 404 00:18:42,665 --> 00:18:45,145 Speaker 2: I feel fucking great I'm wearing this. You know, it's 405 00:18:45,185 --> 00:18:48,225 Speaker 2: just very individual and you feel I feel like you 406 00:18:48,305 --> 00:18:50,065 Speaker 2: feel really happy and confident what you wear. 407 00:18:50,225 --> 00:18:52,105 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I felt like last week as well. I 408 00:18:52,185 --> 00:18:54,825 Speaker 1: was really dressing how I dress like it was for 409 00:18:54,865 --> 00:18:56,585 Speaker 1: the first year, and I feel like I was talking 410 00:18:56,585 --> 00:18:58,945 Speaker 1: to Liz Sunshine, who shoots a lot, and she was 411 00:18:58,985 --> 00:19:01,865 Speaker 1: wearing the same thing every day, and we talked a 412 00:19:01,865 --> 00:19:04,665 Speaker 1: bit about how this year it felt like people weren't 413 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:07,585 Speaker 1: doing as many go home get changed five changes And 414 00:19:07,745 --> 00:19:10,545 Speaker 1: the only look that mine that was featured on you know, 415 00:19:10,665 --> 00:19:14,465 Speaker 1: Vogue Runway, was I was wearing a sixteen dollar vintage 416 00:19:15,585 --> 00:19:19,945 Speaker 1: Nevada Cowboys T shirt and my own jeans. I think 417 00:19:19,985 --> 00:19:22,105 Speaker 1: I was wearing some Burberry sonnies, which is nice because 418 00:19:22,105 --> 00:19:24,065 Speaker 1: I love what Burbery is doing, especially speaking about the 419 00:19:24,065 --> 00:19:26,265 Speaker 1: age thing. But like that was me that I would 420 00:19:26,265 --> 00:19:27,385 Speaker 1: wear that any day of the week. 421 00:19:27,505 --> 00:19:29,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was Indivindually, it was the. 422 00:19:29,065 --> 00:19:31,585 Speaker 1: One that got kind of featured. And I feel like 423 00:19:31,625 --> 00:19:35,185 Speaker 1: it's because it speaks to wear how you actually would dress. 424 00:19:35,305 --> 00:19:37,105 Speaker 2: There was a lot of sheer, There was still a 425 00:19:37,185 --> 00:19:39,785 Speaker 2: lot of tailoring. What's stuck in your head that you're 426 00:19:39,785 --> 00:19:41,505 Speaker 2: excited to wear in the future. 427 00:19:41,665 --> 00:19:44,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think red red, and there was a lot 428 00:19:44,265 --> 00:19:46,625 Speaker 1: of red. So good on you, but yeah, no, but 429 00:19:46,705 --> 00:19:50,185 Speaker 1: it was almost that beautiful like cherry, kind of cherry red, 430 00:19:50,345 --> 00:19:52,585 Speaker 1: loved like a light chilled wine. 431 00:19:52,865 --> 00:19:53,985 Speaker 2: All the good things are red. 432 00:19:54,185 --> 00:19:55,665 Speaker 1: And I think as well, there was a lot of 433 00:19:55,705 --> 00:19:59,825 Speaker 1: things that you could have as a maximalist style, like 434 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:02,505 Speaker 1: but it's almost like sometimes if you go so maximalist, 435 00:20:02,585 --> 00:20:04,505 Speaker 1: it almost becomes a neutral. 436 00:20:04,265 --> 00:20:08,105 Speaker 2: Totally more street style. What do you think the everyday 437 00:20:08,105 --> 00:20:09,985 Speaker 2: person that doesn't go to fashion Week can learn from 438 00:20:09,985 --> 00:20:10,825 Speaker 2: what we saw? 439 00:20:10,985 --> 00:20:13,585 Speaker 1: Well, you know what I did this year was I 440 00:20:13,665 --> 00:20:18,465 Speaker 1: wore a lot of the same shoes and bag or 441 00:20:18,505 --> 00:20:21,465 Speaker 1: you know, like accessory wise like and I think the 442 00:20:21,505 --> 00:20:24,225 Speaker 1: thing is is taking away some of that decision fatigue 443 00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:27,185 Speaker 1: every morning, right, I think you don't have to style 444 00:20:27,225 --> 00:20:29,225 Speaker 1: your whole outfit head to toe and change it up 445 00:20:29,225 --> 00:20:33,665 Speaker 1: every day. You know, have the kind of like metallic 446 00:20:33,745 --> 00:20:36,505 Speaker 1: bag or like, you know that big statement earring. 447 00:20:36,585 --> 00:20:37,585 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you. 448 00:20:37,625 --> 00:20:41,065 Speaker 1: Know, the high high boot and wear that all week 449 00:20:41,145 --> 00:20:43,545 Speaker 1: with all different looks, Like have that be your statement? 450 00:20:43,625 --> 00:20:46,145 Speaker 1: And like, you know, it's like that. It can be 451 00:20:46,225 --> 00:20:49,065 Speaker 1: daunting trying to dress like interestingly every day, but if 452 00:20:49,065 --> 00:20:51,385 Speaker 1: you kind of commit to I'm going to have this 453 00:20:51,465 --> 00:20:53,825 Speaker 1: particular bag, which is a bit loud and out there, yes, 454 00:20:53,865 --> 00:20:55,345 Speaker 1: but I'm going to work it in with all these 455 00:20:55,385 --> 00:20:58,665 Speaker 1: different looks. I think that that's something where you can 456 00:20:58,665 --> 00:21:01,105 Speaker 1: play around with fashion and it's less daunty. 457 00:21:01,265 --> 00:21:03,785 Speaker 2: Agreed, And mine was belts. I noticed so many people 458 00:21:03,825 --> 00:21:06,545 Speaker 2: had a trench or a blazer or even just a 459 00:21:06,625 --> 00:21:08,745 Speaker 2: jumper and just checking on a belt and sinching it 460 00:21:08,785 --> 00:21:11,185 Speaker 2: in the waist or whatever. It looks like you were 461 00:21:11,185 --> 00:21:13,305 Speaker 2: so effortless and timeless in chic, but maybe you just 462 00:21:13,345 --> 00:21:15,465 Speaker 2: grabbed a belt at the last minute. 463 00:21:16,905 --> 00:21:18,425 Speaker 1: It's very expensive. 464 00:21:18,505 --> 00:21:23,425 Speaker 2: Damn, honey, how wonld are these percent okay? Bougie and budget. 465 00:21:23,425 --> 00:21:26,385 Speaker 2: You don't have to give me exact products, you can brands, 466 00:21:26,465 --> 00:21:28,505 Speaker 2: just Aussie themed bougie and budget. 467 00:21:28,745 --> 00:21:32,505 Speaker 1: My budget I'll start with that is Yeah. I did. 468 00:21:32,545 --> 00:21:34,905 Speaker 1: I bought a whole bunch of vintage tees this week 469 00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:38,225 Speaker 1: and I wore them to a couple of shows and 470 00:21:38,425 --> 00:21:40,745 Speaker 1: just like throughout the week, which I loved. There's a 471 00:21:40,785 --> 00:21:43,025 Speaker 1: shop on en More Road in a newtown called Route 472 00:21:43,025 --> 00:21:43,905 Speaker 1: sixty six. 473 00:21:44,065 --> 00:21:46,745 Speaker 2: And fashion Week wasn't far from there. No, I'm gonna 474 00:21:46,745 --> 00:21:47,625 Speaker 2: have to go back this week. 475 00:21:47,705 --> 00:21:50,465 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not usually I used to always be 476 00:21:50,505 --> 00:21:52,865 Speaker 1: afraid to kind of thrift to be because the shops 477 00:21:52,865 --> 00:21:55,745 Speaker 1: are a bit scat, but you know what, they've elevated 478 00:21:55,865 --> 00:21:57,545 Speaker 1: so many of that. Like I don't want to sound 479 00:21:57,545 --> 00:21:58,385 Speaker 1: like a snob. 480 00:21:58,305 --> 00:21:59,145 Speaker 2: No, but it's true. 481 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:01,105 Speaker 1: You know, it's like I'm having a good shopping extent 482 00:22:01,225 --> 00:22:01,625 Speaker 1: and you have. 483 00:22:01,585 --> 00:22:04,585 Speaker 2: To be in the right frame of mind and have 484 00:22:04,665 --> 00:22:05,385 Speaker 2: time to sift. 485 00:22:05,545 --> 00:22:07,785 Speaker 1: But then but then now I feel like they've sifted 486 00:22:07,825 --> 00:22:09,985 Speaker 1: it for you. I feel like they've gotten there together 487 00:22:10,025 --> 00:22:12,665 Speaker 1: in this Route sixty six hop love Love Love. Speaking 488 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:15,505 Speaker 1: of belts, you know, cowboy boots, but amazing vintage ship 489 00:22:15,665 --> 00:22:17,865 Speaker 1: teas and really good price point, I think. 490 00:22:18,105 --> 00:22:19,945 Speaker 2: And although you know you don't know the brand, you're 491 00:22:19,945 --> 00:22:22,425 Speaker 2: supporting an aussy business because that store is an Australian 492 00:22:22,465 --> 00:22:25,025 Speaker 2: business that's doing what they can for the circular economy 493 00:22:25,025 --> 00:22:26,185 Speaker 2: and the environment totally. 494 00:22:26,505 --> 00:22:28,425 Speaker 1: And I got like so many shirts for under forty 495 00:22:28,465 --> 00:22:29,225 Speaker 1: bucks and I just. 496 00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:32,785 Speaker 2: Love I'll quickly do my budget. It's not they didn't 497 00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:34,665 Speaker 2: show up fashion week, because it's important to note that 498 00:22:34,705 --> 00:22:36,745 Speaker 2: you know, one percent of Astrone in fashion label show 499 00:22:36,825 --> 00:22:39,985 Speaker 2: fashion Week. It's incredibly expensive, but a brand I love 500 00:22:39,985 --> 00:22:43,025 Speaker 2: that's quite affordable. It's staple the label. And they have 501 00:22:43,105 --> 00:22:44,945 Speaker 2: a nitch that just came out. It's called the Ember 502 00:22:45,065 --> 00:22:48,985 Speaker 2: Fluffy Nit Jumper and it's just a cream, quite deep 503 00:22:49,105 --> 00:22:51,665 Speaker 2: v neck. It's ninety nine dollars. I've been looking for 504 00:22:51,705 --> 00:22:54,785 Speaker 2: a cream jumper that doesn't throw yellow because I love 505 00:22:54,825 --> 00:22:56,785 Speaker 2: winter whites and it's I don't want it to be 506 00:22:56,825 --> 00:22:58,465 Speaker 2: too it's kind of off white. 507 00:22:58,625 --> 00:22:59,945 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to be Margarini. 508 00:23:00,225 --> 00:23:02,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. It just it's not right. And 509 00:23:02,145 --> 00:23:04,465 Speaker 2: it's got a lovely V. And that's because I just 510 00:23:04,505 --> 00:23:06,825 Speaker 2: love checking on a necklace and then feeling like I've 511 00:23:07,265 --> 00:23:09,985 Speaker 2: done something so that with jeans, that with white likes 512 00:23:09,985 --> 00:23:12,385 Speaker 2: that with my sequence skirt ninety nine dollars. I love 513 00:23:12,425 --> 00:23:14,265 Speaker 2: stay for the label and I would love to see 514 00:23:14,305 --> 00:23:17,905 Speaker 2: some more affordable Aussie brand showing it fashion Week, because 515 00:23:18,065 --> 00:23:20,145 Speaker 2: you know, not everyone has eight hundred dollars for a blazer, 516 00:23:20,345 --> 00:23:22,825 Speaker 2: but that's one of my favorite brands. Tell me your bougie. 517 00:23:22,865 --> 00:23:25,825 Speaker 1: I bet I can guess my bougie. Well, I mean 518 00:23:26,665 --> 00:23:29,385 Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, we could say it's bougie, but 519 00:23:29,465 --> 00:23:32,705 Speaker 1: I think it's an investment. Agree, Gagnana everything and the 520 00:23:32,825 --> 00:23:33,785 Speaker 1: denim is amazing. 521 00:23:34,025 --> 00:23:35,705 Speaker 2: I need to get into some of the dnims. This 522 00:23:35,825 --> 00:23:37,105 Speaker 2: was their first year doing dinner. 523 00:23:36,985 --> 00:23:39,145 Speaker 1: Their first year and you know what I feel like. 524 00:23:39,225 --> 00:23:41,385 Speaker 1: I spoke to Laura May about it. 525 00:23:41,785 --> 00:23:44,305 Speaker 2: I went to school with Laura May, is like three 526 00:23:44,345 --> 00:23:47,145 Speaker 2: or four grades below me and always that beautiful and 527 00:23:47,265 --> 00:23:49,945 Speaker 2: kind and smart. Wow, And that's why I'm so happy 528 00:23:49,945 --> 00:23:51,025 Speaker 2: to see their brand do so well. 529 00:23:51,105 --> 00:23:53,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, she's very clever, and you know, I think 530 00:23:53,345 --> 00:23:55,545 Speaker 1: you know she and Hannah has sister have made these 531 00:23:56,025 --> 00:23:59,185 Speaker 1: genes which are bury your jeanes. The whole concept is 532 00:23:59,545 --> 00:24:01,705 Speaker 1: you cut off the metallic parts, you cut off the 533 00:24:01,745 --> 00:24:03,745 Speaker 1: waistband and they're compossible. 534 00:24:03,865 --> 00:24:04,665 Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? 535 00:24:05,145 --> 00:24:06,945 Speaker 1: You know? And that's that's you know. I think the 536 00:24:07,305 --> 00:24:10,425 Speaker 1: whole greenwashing in the live sustainable fashion is like people 537 00:24:10,505 --> 00:24:12,185 Speaker 1: are making things where they're going to try and tell 538 00:24:12,225 --> 00:24:14,825 Speaker 1: you that you can wear it in threeenty thirteen, you know, 539 00:24:14,905 --> 00:24:17,465 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, this stuff is going to not 540 00:24:17,665 --> 00:24:18,145 Speaker 1: last that. 541 00:24:18,105 --> 00:24:19,545 Speaker 2: You're going to want to and your kids aren't going 542 00:24:19,585 --> 00:24:20,145 Speaker 2: to want to know. 543 00:24:20,425 --> 00:24:22,465 Speaker 1: But where we put it? And so it's like you 544 00:24:22,505 --> 00:24:25,145 Speaker 1: can bury these in your garden to put seeds and 545 00:24:25,145 --> 00:24:27,825 Speaker 1: then they will compost. It's organic cotton vegetable. 546 00:24:27,905 --> 00:24:30,665 Speaker 2: Guys, they really walk the walk, not just talk the talk. 547 00:24:30,745 --> 00:24:32,385 Speaker 1: I think. So I think I think it's just like 548 00:24:32,385 --> 00:24:34,905 Speaker 1: in a really like honest way about Like, No, I 549 00:24:34,945 --> 00:24:38,145 Speaker 1: don't think she's ever personally said that she's sustainable, no, like, 550 00:24:38,305 --> 00:24:38,865 Speaker 1: but you. 551 00:24:38,825 --> 00:24:43,865 Speaker 2: Can just tell, I mean from their vibes that they're 552 00:24:43,905 --> 00:24:45,985 Speaker 2: not going to just say something for the sake of it. 553 00:24:46,265 --> 00:24:49,065 Speaker 1: No. Well, and you know, you know, fashion is a business. 554 00:24:49,105 --> 00:24:51,425 Speaker 1: I guess people are out to make money. It's definitely true. 555 00:24:51,425 --> 00:24:54,705 Speaker 1: But like still to that point, like I just think, yeah, 556 00:24:54,745 --> 00:24:57,665 Speaker 1: that whole concept of like creating something that then can 557 00:24:57,745 --> 00:24:59,825 Speaker 1: get buried in your garden instead of going to land 558 00:24:59,825 --> 00:25:03,225 Speaker 1: phill is. Like, I think it's amazing. Wow, I've never 559 00:25:03,225 --> 00:25:04,465 Speaker 1: heard of anything like that. 560 00:25:04,705 --> 00:25:06,505 Speaker 2: I want to go and bury someone and see what happens. 561 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:07,985 Speaker 2: But I think you have to wait around a long time. 562 00:25:08,025 --> 00:25:09,585 Speaker 2: And if I buy some, I'm going to wear the 563 00:25:10,105 --> 00:25:12,465 Speaker 2: quickly for me. Another brand that didn't show but has 564 00:25:12,505 --> 00:25:16,465 Speaker 2: shown before, Rebecca Velance. I love her stuff. She has 565 00:25:16,585 --> 00:25:19,545 Speaker 2: just brought out the hazel shirt. It is expensive for 566 00:25:19,585 --> 00:25:22,425 Speaker 2: a shirt, three hundred and forty nine dollars. Pure silk, 567 00:25:22,625 --> 00:25:25,145 Speaker 2: the deepest, most delicious, rich chocolate. 568 00:25:25,545 --> 00:25:28,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, she makes beautiful, luxey vibes. 569 00:25:28,385 --> 00:25:30,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, very kind of black tie. But then she's got 570 00:25:30,545 --> 00:25:32,825 Speaker 2: some sort of suiting. And I just feel like this 571 00:25:32,985 --> 00:25:35,905 Speaker 2: rich chocolate silk shirt would make me feel so fancy 572 00:25:36,385 --> 00:25:39,145 Speaker 2: and so grown up with jeans, wide legged pants anything. 573 00:25:39,425 --> 00:25:41,945 Speaker 2: I just am not good enough at washing silk yet 574 00:25:42,145 --> 00:25:45,145 Speaker 2: to let myself invest in that. And I'm not dry 575 00:25:45,145 --> 00:25:48,185 Speaker 2: cleaning something like that all the time because cost per drying. 576 00:25:48,385 --> 00:25:53,545 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think choky silk is like it speaks like 577 00:25:53,585 --> 00:25:54,265 Speaker 1: I'm a grown up. 578 00:25:54,385 --> 00:25:56,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a grown up. Oh, Jess, I love chatting 579 00:25:56,665 --> 00:25:58,665 Speaker 2: to you. Let's not wait for fashion week next year. 580 00:25:58,705 --> 00:26:00,865 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have you back, but thank you for joining me. 581 00:26:00,905 --> 00:26:02,625 Speaker 2: I hope you can rest your voice after a very 582 00:26:02,665 --> 00:26:03,545 Speaker 2: busy week last. 583 00:26:03,505 --> 00:26:05,385 Speaker 1: And thank You'll be having a vitamental after this. 584 00:26:13,625 --> 00:26:15,665 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't 585 00:26:15,665 --> 00:26:18,185 Speaker 2: forget there's a wonderful newsletter that goes with this show. 586 00:26:18,225 --> 00:26:20,145 Speaker 2: There's a link in the show notes, so sign up. 587 00:26:20,265 --> 00:26:23,385 Speaker 2: It's free, and also, did you know you can watch 588 00:26:23,465 --> 00:26:25,625 Speaker 2: us on YouTube. There's also a link in the show 589 00:26:25,625 --> 00:26:29,105 Speaker 2: notes if you'd rather see this podcast. 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