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Speaker 1: So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel

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Speaker 2: guilty of body. Hello and welcome to you Beauty the

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Speaker 2: Daily Podcast for Your Face.

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Speaker 1: I am Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran and Lee has

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Speaker 1: just pointed out the date and it's the middle of wink. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not the middle of winter. It's the start of winter.

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Speaker 2: It's almost easy.

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Speaker 1: Basically, we're almost halfway through.

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Speaker 2: Now, I kind of met the end of financial yew one.

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Speaker 2: So if you've had a shit year, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I do every year? If I've had a shit

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Speaker 2: first half of the year, I buy.

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Speaker 1: Some lots of truth.

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Speaker 2: Well, Becausin's tax deduction, yes, but I count that, you know,

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Speaker 2: end of financial years like yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also end of financial sales, even if they're not

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Speaker 1: tax deductions, it's still free.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, very good. So you might want to buy something.

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Speaker 2: We suggest today it's a Monday. We answer your questions.

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Speaker 2: You send them in. Our wonderful team sifts through them.

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Speaker 2: Actually they have to send us all of them, We

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Speaker 2: speak them, then we try and help you out. So

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Speaker 2: what are we doing today? My friends?

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Speaker 1: Well today? Later on the episode, we do have a

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Speaker 1: question from a ub that I think ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of people can relate to at some point in their life.

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Speaker 1: But first a question. Lee and I will have very

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Speaker 1: different opinions on. I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything?

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Speaker 2: You ask many questions.

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Speaker 1: Honey has emailed us this is awkward, but I need

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Speaker 1: to break up with my eyebrow lady. We chat like

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Speaker 1: friends and she's lovely, but her work hasn't been great lately.

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Speaker 1: How do I end things without burning bridges or making

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Speaker 1: it super uncomfortable?

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Speaker 2: Honey? This is not enough information. I need to know.

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Speaker 2: Do you message or communicate outside of your appointments? Or

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Speaker 2: is she lovely to chat to while you're having your

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Speaker 2: brows done and that's the extent of your relationship?

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Speaker 1: Does it matter? Wait?

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Speaker 2: Okays, it matters. How long have you been going to her?

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Speaker 2: Do you follow each other on social media? Do your

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Speaker 2: Are you in a tiny town where there's two eyebrow people?

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Speaker 2: Do you live a new city where there's a millionaire.

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Speaker 2: You'll never see each other again. It's so hard. I

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Speaker 2: went through this. I'm not going to name the profession,

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Speaker 2: but I went through this after decades, and I decided

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Speaker 2: to what did you do? I'm not telling on the thing.

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Speaker 2: Well on I semi ghosted, and I feel sick about it,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: How do you semi ghost?

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Speaker 2: Well, I ghosted and then I was asked what's happening?

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Speaker 2: And oh no, don't ask So I kind of live

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Speaker 2: it comes up like you don't have to say Hi, Mary,

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Speaker 2: I've got something to tell.

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Speaker 1: You've been doing awful.

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Speaker 2: Drop and now I'm going to felicity Like it doesn't

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Speaker 1: Oh lies a fie?

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Speaker 2: Oh good, okay, what do you know, lie?

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Speaker 1: Lie? So what I would do because I'm actually in

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Speaker 1: That would I like to know, Like if someone was

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Speaker 2: But that's not what she I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: What if honey is code for like Margo Robbie. What

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Speaker 2: I just I hate to say this, but I just

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Speaker 1: But I also wouldn't have the conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's my point. But it's like, I love that women

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Speaker 1: No, no, you're taking it too far. Just simply tell

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Speaker 2: This question comes up a lot in the Ubi grip.

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Speaker 1: Well, but all people like you've got to have the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I think we've just encouraged it a lie.

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Speaker 1: So this email from Jazzy is the one that I

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Speaker 1: At some point, I thought it was the breaking up

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Speaker 2: how much I can relate to this right now. We've

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Speaker 2: even two glasses of wine will make me look puffy

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Speaker 2: you can get those memory foonelebate, yes, because you want

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, but you're not meant to go that hard anyway.

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Speaker 2: Some things that have helped me are the Buttapacific puffy

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Speaker 2: It's really nice forty two ninety five. Then you could

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Speaker 2: also try, which I love, the James cous Mex dpuff

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Speaker 2: eye mask. Kelly and I both love these products. They're

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Speaker 2: they're like little what are they called, like not silicon

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Speaker 2: and they do have a dpuff specific version. You get

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Speaker 2: five packs for thirty five dollars. It does feel quite active.

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Speaker 2: You'll feel that it's on, but my undereye always looks

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Speaker 2: quickly assess your makeup and see if that's you might

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Speaker 2: be having a slight irritation if you're puffy. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You might know, obviously you'll know better than we do.

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Speaker 2: But there's a really great mascara I recommended before that

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Speaker 2: was developed by an ophthalmologist.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I remember you talking about that that had the

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Speaker 1: braille on the side of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's got braill on it for people that are

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Speaker 2: vision impaired. It's called Oki. Oh and Prioritize mascara. It's

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Speaker 2: in black forty nine to fifty and they just launched brown.

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Speaker 2: So I've got a lot of friends that wear contact

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Speaker 2: thick conceala would be good. Just something light to brighten

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Speaker 1: Kelly and I love the Becke love under eye brighteners.

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Speaker 2: I love those ones?

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Speaker 2: Because are they recommending them? Well, the comment section is like,

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Speaker 2: But for the will, I've got to get out all okay,

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Speaker 2: So if you've got a question, slide into our dms

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