Speaker 1: We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording
Speaker 1: on today.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Welcome back, shitters. Oh gosh, it's good to
Speaker 2: be back. It is a brand spanking new season and
Speaker 2: error of your all time favorite podcast, Eat, Sleep, Shit, Repeat,
Speaker 2: your unhinged podcast about the madness that is motherhood and
Speaker 2: everything in between. I'm Kelly mccaren.
Speaker 1: We are back baby, not officially yet in studio. I'm
Speaker 1: Kiries and I'm currently have a baby not attached to
Speaker 1: me right now, but any moment now she is going
Speaker 1: to wake and attached to my very engorged, mastitis filled
Speaker 1: right breast.
Speaker 2: Oh poor thing.
Speaker 1: I'm on the front line here for the shitters, but
Speaker 1: we're back in front of the mic, and I am
Speaker 1: so excited to be using my brain in a different way.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: Oh well, if you are new here, welcome And if
Speaker 2: you missed us, welcome back. We really missed the show too,
Speaker 2: and the messages I've been receiving we've been off really
Speaker 2: reminded me just how important it is and the impact
Speaker 2: that it's having all over the world. Now. Really, there's
Speaker 2: been a couple that I've sent through to key from
Speaker 2: like random locations that she's like, Oh, whoa, We've got
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Speaker 1: I know, Isn't it cool? That's what's so fun about podcasting,
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Speaker 2: So, with this new season and era of the pod,
Speaker 2: I love the word error. I know that it's era,
Speaker 2: but I like saying error just error more impactful. We
Speaker 2: are going to try to do things a little bit differently,
Speaker 2: and of course you are welcome to share your thoughts
Speaker 2: and feedback.
Speaker 1: Yes, So after a few months of this new format,
Speaker 1: we're going to be putting out the feelers to see
Speaker 1: what you're thinking and see what the general consensus is.
Speaker 1: Because if the majority of our shitter is aren't vibing
Speaker 1: the new format. Then we're going to switch it up again.
Speaker 1: We just want the show to grow and evolve as
Speaker 1: we are growing and evolving too.
Speaker 2: So today's episode is going to be a standalone catch
Speaker 2: up episode in probably some pretty curty glory because it
Speaker 2: is us, we will update you on exactly what the
Speaker 2: fuck has been going on.
Speaker 1: And then from next week our monthly rotation of episodes
Speaker 1: will start and it's going to revert back to the
Speaker 1: start every four weeks. So if that's confusing, don't worry.
Speaker 1: We're going to run you through it.
Speaker 2: So the first episode of every rotation will be a
Speaker 2: good old fashioned rant, probably one of my favorite things
Speaker 2: to do. This episode will kick off with both of
Speaker 2: us doing our weekly peek and pit.
Speaker 1: Then can I just be a bitch for a sec?
Speaker 1: This was actually inspired by one of my favorite podcasts
Speaker 1: that I listened to called Las Culturistas. Shout out to them.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're not going to listen, but we have to
Speaker 1: give credit where credit's due, and we're going to link
Speaker 1: them in the show notes so you can start listening
Speaker 1: to them because you will love So the rant will
Speaker 1: go for like mac sixty seconds and it's timed and
Speaker 1: it's about something that we are annoyed with, about motherhood,
Speaker 1: about something that's happening with our little ones and.
Speaker 2: Our life, really like something's just really grading on us.
Speaker 1: Just relatable stuff that we are talking about, and then
Speaker 1: we're going to debate or have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a discussion about the topic in question. We will of
Speaker 1: course take turns, but I'm going to be kicking off
Speaker 1: things next week because it's only fair that I get
Speaker 1: to rant about the fresh hell that is going from
Speaker 1: one to two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sort of trumps like what's going on in
Speaker 2: my life, which is just my cat who insists on
Speaker 2: urinating where she shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not good.
Speaker 2: To fix, really really annoying. I need help. Then the
Speaker 2: next episode will be I just don't know if I care.
Speaker 2: So every month, once again we'll bring article, a study,
Speaker 2: a report, or you know, TikTok video that's really conversation
Speaker 2: provoking and thought provoking and something that people really seem
Speaker 2: to care about but we just don't know if we do,
Speaker 2: so are we interested or does it boor us to sleep?
Speaker 2: This will also just be a really good deep dive
Speaker 2: for shitters who can't be ass looking into things and
Speaker 2: want them explain to them in like a really easy
Speaker 2: to digest way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm always like, let's talk about the study
Speaker 1: and Cal's like that's boring, and I'm like, but someone
Speaker 1: might care. So then also originated from.
Speaker 2: The idea is that we've got to make it interesting
Speaker 2: exactly exactly at the end, we just go nas still
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't care, but thanks for your work done.
Speaker 1: So the third episode will be shitter Led. We're going
Speaker 1: to have a guest joining us and they'll be kicking
Speaker 1: off a convo with their sixty second bitch about something
Speaker 1: before we have a good old fashioned yap and yeah
Speaker 1: with them about it. So no experts unless they're super
Speaker 1: fun and interesting. We're just going to be getting on
Speaker 1: your regular Joe blows, friends of ours, people we know
Speaker 1: that are going through the same things. Hit is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shit is, shit is.
Speaker 2: Finally, every month our rotation will finish with an episode
Speaker 2: dedicated to drunk parenting advice with us, except we're not
Speaker 2: always going to be drunk because sometimes we might be
Speaker 2: recording at nine am on a Tuesday and no judgment.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know we're not on holidays. No, you
Speaker 2: loved the Unhinged solo app I did, so we're going
Speaker 2: to make it into a regular thing. This is the
Speaker 2: one episode per month that we won't have a peek
Speaker 2: and pit. We're just going to drive straight into your conundrums.
Speaker 2: Questions please if you will, and you can submit your
Speaker 2: questions via the link on our install It'll just live
Speaker 2: in the bio and it will always be completely anonymous. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's the plan and we're really excited about it.
Speaker 1: But as promised, we kind of need to catch up.
Speaker 1: There's a bit that's been on, hasn't it.
Speaker 2: We have so much to catch up on. Okay, key,
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on in your life?
Speaker 1: Oh god? Well, I'll start off with the biggest thing,
Speaker 1: because as if having a newborn whilst also having a
Speaker 1: toddler isn't enough, We are trying to buy a house.
Speaker 2: Yay, And are you feeling really defeated? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. We are in our fifth month of looking
Speaker 1: for a house. We have been every single Saturday, bar
Speaker 1: the weekend of Rou's birthday to open homes, and I've
Speaker 1: been going during the week and we have come really
Speaker 1: close twice. The first time, I don't think it was
Speaker 1: our house the second time was our house and someone
Speaker 1: stole it from us, so that's pretty hard to get over.
Speaker 1: But my God, like it really opens your eyes up
Speaker 1: to the process. Like everyone says, it's one of the
Speaker 1: most stressful things you'll do in your life is buying
Speaker 1: a house and having a baby, which we've decided to
Speaker 1: do both at the same time, which is.
Speaker 2: Very stupid, which we know.
Speaker 1: But literally my apartment is I hate it. And I
Speaker 1: don't know about UKL but like when you're living somewhere.
Speaker 2: That you just hate, you want out.
Speaker 1: I want out, And because it's also where I work,
Speaker 1: I just don't have a sanctuary. And because I'm here
Speaker 1: all the time with the baby and working, it's just
Speaker 1: a little much. So I think it's the stakes are
Speaker 1: a bit higher. I've also been through a complete identity
Speaker 1: crisis because spoiler alert, we cannot afford to live on
Speaker 1: the beaches in Sydney. It's just not attainable for us,
Speaker 1: so we are going suburban outrageous, So it's also been
Speaker 1: a bit of an identity crisis. But I'm feeling really
Speaker 1: good about the area.
Speaker 2: Key is so funny with something she messaged me one day,
Speaker 2: She goes, do you know much about this suburb, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, I've got a bunch of
Speaker 2: friends that lived there. I used to live like two
Speaker 2: suburbs from there. It was really great bub bluh. And
Speaker 2: she goes, oh, I just don't know. Maybe I'll get
Speaker 2: in touch with that person and talk to them about oposed.
Speaker 2: Like I've never met someone that's just like, oh.
Speaker 1: No, it's really okay. But this is my reasoning, right,
Speaker 1: It's like I grew up in britzee shout out to Brisbane,
Speaker 1: we love you. Have lived in Sydney for ten years,
Speaker 1: have only lived in the same suburb for ten years.
Speaker 2: So whereas I've always chopped changed suburbs exactly, I've lived
Speaker 2: in the most rogue Sydney suburbs, which I think is
Speaker 2: the right way to do.
Speaker 1: With anyone that's moving to Sydney who I chat to,
Speaker 1: I'm always like, biggest piece of advice. I really regret
Speaker 1: not moving around when I didn't have like ties like now,
Speaker 1: when the thing that kind of decides the area that
Speaker 1: we want to live in is like, is there a
Speaker 1: sense of community.
Speaker 2: Are the schools great? Like?
Speaker 1: Where are we zoned? Like all of those really sensible questions.
Speaker 1: Whereas when you're younger and a bit more agile, you
Speaker 1: can live where it's really cool and fun and edgy.
Speaker 1: Like right now where I live, it's like, on a
Speaker 1: Saturday night going out with a baby and a toddler,
Speaker 1: I'm walking into a freaking night club on the street.
Speaker 1: It's just so not good. So we had a big weekend.
Speaker 1: We were looking at houses in the suburb that we
Speaker 1: want to move to, and we had our friend's birthday
Speaker 1: party who they live out there as well, and we
Speaker 1: would just honestly, it's the best day I've had in
Speaker 1: so long. Even though I had mass status and was
Speaker 1: like in paying serious pain the whole time, it was
Speaker 1: so nice being in our suburb that we're hoping to
Speaker 1: move to. And then we came back to our house
Speaker 1: and we were just like fucking the suburb.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, the news is were buying a house but
Speaker 1: haven't found one yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think I've worked with different people that
Speaker 2: have been like on the auction circuit before and it
Speaker 2: just seems awful, like weekend after weekend, Yeah, which is
Speaker 2: why I stopped before I even really started looking like
Speaker 2: we were looking, but we didn't actually, like ever go
Speaker 2: bid on something or go speak to a bank. And
Speaker 2: I still sometimes have a peek at real estate dot
Speaker 2: com just to see what's.
Speaker 1: How addictive is it once you get into the hang
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, with everything that's been going on with my nanny,
Speaker 2: I just was feeling like extra sentimental about keeping her house,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I get that I don't really need any more,
Speaker 2: like we could really use it, but like that's we
Speaker 2: don't need it. And yeah, so that's sort of been
Speaker 2: put on hiatus for a while. But I do at
Speaker 2: some point need to speak to someone about money because
Speaker 2: I've got no idea what to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, financial advisor, I reckon that's a good good step
Speaker 1: for that. I luckily have Charlie, who is in finance,
Speaker 1: really good with money. He knows what to do. But
Speaker 1: if we were not together, I would be getting definitely
Speaker 1: a financial advisor. You just want to make sure that
Speaker 1: you're making the right choices with your money, and they
Speaker 1: don't teach you that stuff at school, so it's like
Speaker 1: you have to find someone who is going to educate
Speaker 1: you and give you tips and tricks on what to
Speaker 1: actually deal with it to make your money grow.
Speaker 2: But I'm not very good at spending money. On things
Speaker 2: that bore me, which is why I still don't have
Speaker 2: a proper accountant. I've given you my accountant's name, and
Speaker 2: I'm just so like, I hate spending money on things
Speaker 2: that are boring, Like I'll spend the most outrageous money
Speaker 2: on things that are fun and like pretty, but on
Speaker 2: anything like that that's going to benefit me more. Nah,
Speaker 2: hate it, hate it?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess because it's not a house is
Speaker 1: tangible because you'll be living in it. But I get
Speaker 1: what you mean. It is snoozy. It's like when you're
Speaker 1: You're Red Joe, You're like, oh, this is annoying, but
Speaker 1: I've got to do it or else I can't drive
Speaker 1: my car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I need to update everyone on my beautiful
Speaker 2: nanny because.
Speaker 1: I'm still like people of wanting to know what's going on. Dying.
Speaker 2: It's not funny, but Gallow's humor it is like a
Speaker 2: little bit funny. So, like six weeks ago, the doctor said, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's dying. There was the palliative like little sign on
Speaker 2: the door at the aged care thing. Everyone was sitting
Speaker 2: with her around the clock, like she did not have
Speaker 2: long Yeah. Sometimes you know when you just do things
Speaker 2: and then you look back on it and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: for goodness sake. So at one point I posted this
Speaker 2: like sad little video on Instagram going, well, it's Nanny's
Speaker 2: time and it's time for her to go. And now
Speaker 2: it's like six weeks later, well she's still here, duh
Speaker 2: with no, she's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but cal those were real emotions in that moment,
Speaker 1: Like I was talking to you pretty much every day.
Speaker 1: She's a strong woman actually, and she's turned it around.
Speaker 2: This is why it's just so funny because her entire life,
Speaker 2: so she's got four boys. When they were all really little,
Speaker 2: she was in quite a bad accident and that's why
Speaker 2: she's got like this thing on her head. So she
Speaker 2: was in such a bad car accident for my first birthday.
Speaker 2: That was her first ever heart attack where she needed
Speaker 2: a triple bypass. What she since had a further two
Speaker 2: oh my god, like severe heart attacks with triple bypasses.
Speaker 2: She has emphysema. She had a fall so bad in
Speaker 2: Perth that she was in a hospital for weeks in
Speaker 2: her entire body like she was black and blue. She
Speaker 2: was in such a bad car accident that the other
Speaker 2: person in the car ended up dying. This was such
Speaker 2: a bad car accident. She's been in car accidents with
Speaker 2: me before. I had to save her from drowning when
Speaker 2: I couldn't even swim that well myself in the pool
Speaker 2: that my sister now owns. She got hit by a
Speaker 2: boss Kelly, I'm not joking. She got this as wild
Speaker 2: how it was in the paper local elderly woman hit
Speaker 2: by bus. She was fine. There is just so many things.
Speaker 1: She is so resilient, resilient, but and lucky and lucky.
Speaker 2: She's so lucky. But it is also really sad and
Speaker 2: awful because there's no way if she was of sound
Speaker 2: to mind that she would want to be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2: So she's back up and at it, but not walking.
Speaker 2: But she's in a chair every day. Like they use
Speaker 2: this little thing. It's quite funny. It's like you know
Speaker 2: those things that they used to get sea creatures out
Speaker 2: of the ocean, like a little hammock almost, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how they get her in and out of bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, someone proll shamoo back in the ocean,
Speaker 2: and the nurses don't really get my humor. Anyway. So
Speaker 2: she's in the chair like she's got a catheter in
Speaker 2: permanently and like there's just no dignity left and there's
Speaker 2: no Yeah, she's just such a proud lady. And the dementia,
Speaker 2: you know, she doesn't know who I am ninety eight
Speaker 2: percent of the time, and I've got a good sense
Speaker 2: of human most of the time. Like, you know, she'll
Speaker 2: say to me, I've never seen you before and you're
Speaker 2: in my life, and I'm like, well, that's unfortunately not true.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm so glad that I bother coming
Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's one of those
Speaker 2: things where she's not eating and drinking that much, and
Speaker 2: I know that she's tiny and not doing that much,
Speaker 2: but I don't see how you can sort of go
Speaker 2: on for too long eating and drinking such little amounts.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just like this long, awful process. But
Speaker 2: my god, that lady is stubborn and resilient, and you know,
Speaker 2: she's my nanny through and through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's often I think, especially with dementia. I've experienced
Speaker 1: at it within our family, and it's often harder for
Speaker 1: the people that are left caring for them. I just
Speaker 1: don't feel like there's enough acknowledgment of that, Like it's
Speaker 1: really hard to still show up for someone every day,
Speaker 1: which you would do it in any circumstance, of course,
Speaker 1: but when they don't remember who you are, it's really
Speaker 1: difficult sometimes just to not not let it affect you deeply.
Speaker 1: So to have a sense of humor about it, I
Speaker 1: think is the best way.
Speaker 2: It's the only way. Key You've got to laugh, where
Speaker 2: you cry our life motto. Because it's also sometimes and
Speaker 2: that people don't really talk about. They can get quite cranky.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, because.
Speaker 2: They're very frustrated as well.
Speaker 1: They called it at my Nana's thing, they called it
Speaker 1: the like when it's coming sundowners sundown. Is that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to come at that time because it's
Speaker 1: awful basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I sort of have to go at
Speaker 2: that time. Well not at the moment actually, because she's
Speaker 2: eating a lot more and better. But there was a
Speaker 2: period like a couple of weeks where I went every
Speaker 2: single night for dinner to make sure that she ate
Speaker 2: some dinner. Yeah, because like even if I could just
Speaker 2: get her dessert into her, I was like, that's better
Speaker 2: than nothing. But like, yeah, she was shouting at me
Speaker 2: and like get away. I don't want it, and I'm like, Nanny, please,
Speaker 2: you have to eat something like for your own health.
Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, and then I was thinking I was
Speaker 2: having like a big sob about it last night because
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Oh my god, imagine if I was
Speaker 2: her age and I didn't recognize Lenny, Like, it's dementia
Speaker 2: is fucked. It is the Yeah, it's really It's so cruel.
Speaker 1: It's really cruel.
Speaker 2: Because at the end all we have our people and
Speaker 2: our memories of our people. If you don't have that,
Speaker 2: you don't have anything.
Speaker 1: It's really heartbreaking. I remember my grandad got released from
Speaker 1: hospitals is when he was dying and basically there was
Speaker 1: nothing else they could do for him, so he was
Speaker 1: released into palliat of care. And my nana's dementia because
Speaker 1: of obviously he had this heart attack and that his
Speaker 1: end of life was approaching, it sped up her dementia,
Speaker 1: which often does when traumatic events happen. And I just
Speaker 1: remember standing outside of the room when we had brought
Speaker 1: them back together after he had been in hospital and
Speaker 1: she had moved into the home, and I remember him
Speaker 1: just like pleading with her to remember who he was,
Speaker 1: like I'm your husband, like you're my wife, like we
Speaker 1: love each other. That was the hardest thing I have
Speaker 1: ever heard, Like it was just heartbreaking, heartbreaking, and he
Speaker 1: had been living with her and her dementia. They had
Speaker 1: hidden it from us for years. We all had suspicions,
Speaker 1: but it never was told to us, and obviously when
Speaker 1: everything happened, it all kind of came out. It is
Speaker 1: the cruelest of cruel thing that can happen to you
Speaker 1: when you live a long life and you get to
Speaker 1: the age where you just want to enjoy life, and
Speaker 1: then that's what happens.
Speaker 2: It's just awful.
Speaker 1: So I really think of you guys all the time
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think, even though she doesn't remember you,
Speaker 1: you being there with her is just so beautiful.
Speaker 2: And she does sometimes yeah, yeah, Like there's usually because
Speaker 2: I ask her every day and I never like try
Speaker 2: to force it or anything, but every day I go,
Speaker 2: do you know who I am? And she most of
Speaker 2: the time is like she just laughs and she goes no,
Speaker 2: or most of the time though she's still sort of
Speaker 2: happy to see me. But then every now' they're familiar.
Speaker 1: I think they like they know you're familiar, so they
Speaker 1: know that you're safe, safe, and they.
Speaker 2: Don't really know who you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It did break my heart though one day when I
Speaker 2: went to grab her hand and she sort of flinched,
Speaker 2: and then I realized, like, oh my god, she doesn't know,
Speaker 2: like I'm just a weird stranger touching her. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fucked me like that was awful. But the other day
Speaker 2: she looks at me when I asked that question, she goes,
Speaker 2: you're my granddaughter, like it was just so, and it's
Speaker 2: like whenever those moments happen, she looks at me like
Speaker 2: I'm crazy, Like as if I wouldn't know who you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hello,
Speaker 2: Oh so I have to tell you something funny that
Speaker 2: I do when I'm stressed. Yeah, And because I'm currently
Speaker 2: recording this in lef his room because there's so much space.
Speaker 2: When I'm stressed, I get rid of things.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yep.
Speaker 2: So I sold. There was like a couple of days
Speaker 2: where people were just turning up because I was just
Speaker 2: selling things on Facebook marketplace, but I didn't have anything
Speaker 2: to replace it with. So now I'm just living in
Speaker 2: some pretty empty spaces with just piles of crap everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. You just want like quick things
Speaker 1: to make you feel good. So you're like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to sell this. I'm going to sell this, and you're
Speaker 1: like oh.
Speaker 2: And then I was doing some donations and oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: I have like a bit of a rant at some
Speaker 2: point to go on about Salvos and Vinnie's and the donations.
Speaker 2: But I was giving away some really good stuff and
Speaker 2: my sister was like looking through one of the bags
Speaker 2: and she goes, why are you getting rid of these?
Speaker 2: You love these. I just.
Speaker 1: Sit with you while you're getting rid of the things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I probably needed someone here when I was
Speaker 2: selling everything on Facebook marketplace. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: You were showing me Lenny's big boy bend. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just don't look at the piles. There's nothing to put
Speaker 1: his things in. And I was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask. I'm just gonna push through.
Speaker 2: Cute bed that was a few weeks ago. We're still here,
Speaker 2: and the bed also doesn't have anything on it because
Speaker 2: the cat keeps pissing on it. Honestly, she's doing my
Speaker 2: head in. Every time I make the bed, she pisses
Speaker 2: on it. She also pisses on Luke's clothes, like piles
Speaker 2: of clothes. But that's it. It's so annoying.
Speaker 1: It must be like a becuse.
Speaker 2: Men.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's some hormone that they release.
Speaker 2: Well, I've got to get a dsex soon, so hopefully
Speaker 2: that will help.
Speaker 1: Fuck, that's annoying. No, I can't deal with pee.
Speaker 2: It just it's disgusting. He I would rather pooh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pooh's a lot easier to deal with. We it
Speaker 1: just seeps into stuff and it seeps.
Speaker 2: And cat wi smells disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 2: It's like there dehydrated elderly men. That's how bad he is.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't need that. I could have done about that,
Speaker 1: thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Anyway. I know that we're going to get into the
Speaker 2: going from one to two more in your round next week,
Speaker 2: but talk to us a little about like how you're
Speaker 2: going with wrangling and newborn managing businesses, dealing with the
Speaker 2: shit show that is life.
Speaker 1: It is not for the fainthearted. I think it is.
Speaker 1: Really it's really testing me. I think I have to say, like,
Speaker 1: we have got a pretty easy baby, and I think
Speaker 1: that had she not been easy I would have lost
Speaker 1: my mind, because I already did a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Over I wouldn't say that she's an easy baby. From
Speaker 2: what I've heard, she doesn't sleep independently most of the time.
Speaker 1: Well no, that was in her first weeks of being
Speaker 1: a baby, but now she.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't sleep in a cot or like at nighttime.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't sleep in a cot at nighttime. But this
Speaker 1: is all in like I feel like we're now she's
Speaker 1: gonna be thirteen weeks this week, still just over three months,
Speaker 1: so she's still a baby, not a newborn anymore. But
Speaker 1: I think in the first eight weeks it was rough
Speaker 1: because I was really trying to breastfeed and get everything
Speaker 1: happening with that. I was trying to learn who she was,
Speaker 1: and she was just a very clingy baby.
Speaker 2: Very different to Rue, very different to Rue.
Speaker 1: Rue was like really happy to be swaddled really tightly
Speaker 1: and sat down and she would just kind of go
Speaker 1: with the flow. But very quickly I learned that Suki
Speaker 1: just wanted to be on me. So it was a
Speaker 1: lot in the first eight weeks, I would say, is
Speaker 1: when it was extremely hard, because I think what happens
Speaker 1: is like you forget the newborn stage. So I had
Speaker 1: like blacked out or something that first bit, but everyone
Speaker 1: kept I.
Speaker 2: Think everyone does. And it was quite funny though when
Speaker 2: people would be like, oh, does Key having a newborn
Speaker 2: make you clucky? It all? But like talking to you
Speaker 2: every day, I was like, God, no.
Speaker 1: No, we were in the trenches. Like I can't even
Speaker 1: imagine had she not been a good feeder, had something
Speaker 1: else been wrong, because it was tough and she was
Speaker 1: a very textbook baby. Like everything I was saying to
Speaker 1: my midwife, which can I just it is obviously a
Speaker 1: massive investment and something that was such a privilege for
Speaker 1: me to be able to do. But having that midwife
Speaker 1: come every second day and every four days and every
Speaker 1: week for like six weeks postpartum was the best thing
Speaker 1: because I was going to her, is this normal? Is
Speaker 1: this normal? She's like, I don't know what to tell
Speaker 1: your key, Like she's gaining weight, she's really happy, she's
Speaker 1: looking good. She's just a baby.
Speaker 2: She's just a baby. And that was just so cute
Speaker 2: and smiley.
Speaker 1: She's so cute and smiling. She's just the most delicious thing.
Speaker 1: But that was the thing that I think was the
Speaker 1: most difference this time. It's like, obviously, yes, you've done
Speaker 1: it before, but it really doesn't mean anything because there's
Speaker 1: completely different personalities, right, So you don't get freaked out
Speaker 1: by like if they don't pooh for a few days,
Speaker 1: because they're like, okay, that's normal. So you're not as
Speaker 1: highly strung, but you're still really tired because you've got
Speaker 1: another baby as well to look after another toddler.
Speaker 2: But I wake having still.
Speaker 1: And they wake up still, and they get in the
Speaker 1: bed and the dogs in the bed, and it's like,
Speaker 1: thank god, you've got a king bed, because fucking I'd
Speaker 1: be sleeping on the floor if not. But I think
Speaker 1: what was so good is just reassuring that she's a baby,
Speaker 1: like this is all normal stuff, Like don't worry, there's
Speaker 1: nothing more that you can do. So having someone to
Speaker 1: remind me was like, yep, I've just got to lean
Speaker 1: into it. So I just leant into it. For the
Speaker 1: first three months of her life, it was like she
Speaker 1: only sleeps on me. That's fine, that's it. I just
Speaker 1: have to kind of get used to it. And also
Speaker 1: like trying to work, it was like I just have
Speaker 1: to go with the flow, Like if I'm recording a
Speaker 1: podcast and she's talking or yupping or crying or whatever.
Speaker 1: To not let it stress me out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean fair enough. If she's crying, then you
Speaker 2: know you sort of have to press pause. But yeah,
Speaker 2: she's having a gurg or having a suck like, it's fine.
Speaker 2: And so I think it has been really hard.
Speaker 1: Like, don't get me wrong, there are days when I
Speaker 1: have called Charlie to be like, you've got to come
Speaker 1: home now. But it's more so the sleep deprivation and
Speaker 1: then having to deal with a toddler who is just
Speaker 1: turned three. It's just a bit of a recipe for
Speaker 1: a disaster. And I think obviously which you can relate
Speaker 1: to Kella's not having I do have my sister in
Speaker 1: law here who does help and is amazing, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's got two young kids herself exactly, and she
Speaker 1: works full time. So it's like it's not having a
Speaker 1: grandma around to come. That's the thing that's missing, you know.
Speaker 2: That. That and not having Charlie's mum this time around
Speaker 2: to call the way you did with U exactly, which
Speaker 2: I would have been heartbreaking as well, and something both
Speaker 2: to navigate over the past couple of months.
Speaker 1: It's just an added layer of because you're so happy
Speaker 1: because you've got this new baby, and they're just delicious
Speaker 1: and delightful. But there's someone that's missing out on and
Speaker 1: that has been there previously, and you know how excited
Speaker 1: they were to meet your baby and just to you know,
Speaker 1: take them off your hands when you're in the depths
Speaker 1: of being like, what the hell am I doing? But
Speaker 1: it's been good. Like as we've come out of the
Speaker 1: three months, I feel like once you get past that
Speaker 1: twelve weeks, it's still hard, of course, but I really
Speaker 1: didn't think so this time when it was leading up
Speaker 1: to the twelve weeks. I'm not gonna get to twelve
Speaker 1: weeks and it's all going to feel easier.
Speaker 2: But somehow it does.
Speaker 1: Like you just I think it's just a perfect amount
Speaker 1: of time for you to understand the rhythm of your baby.
Speaker 1: And obviously things change, but you know, I know that
Speaker 1: when she wakes up in the morning, I'm gonna feed
Speaker 1: her and she's going to do a big pooh straight away.
Speaker 1: I know that she's gonna probably want to sleep for
Speaker 1: forty five minutes after I drop real daycare. Like, you
Speaker 1: start to notice the consistencies and the patterns, and you're
Speaker 1: like all right, and then that gives you a bit
Speaker 1: of confidence to plan your day or I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just what they say about getting to that twelve
Speaker 1: weeks that you know through the fourth trimester is really true.
Speaker 1: It kind of gives you a bit of breathing room
Speaker 1: to be able to get to the next bit. Although
Speaker 1: the adrenaline does run out, so I'm falling asleep during
Speaker 1: every night feed and waking up being like, shit, I've
Speaker 1: just fallen asleep, Like I've definitely the adrenaline's definitely worn off,
Speaker 1: but caught a bit of a stride. Do you get
Speaker 1: to nap during the day, No, because I've scot shit
Speaker 1: to do. Like it's not like when you've got one
Speaker 1: baby and you're like, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I never napped, obviously, I never napped even with
Speaker 2: one little baby. Bit yeah I wish that I had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was doing that in the early early weeks.
Speaker 1: But now I'll get I'll have a shit night and
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I've got to take a nap today,
Speaker 1: and the day just gets away from me. It's like, well, no,
Speaker 1: there's stuff to do. I've got to reset the house.
Speaker 1: A house is a mess like toddlers are so messy.
Speaker 2: They are so messy, they get their every single toe out,
Speaker 2: Like God, I'm obviously painting this with a very positive brush. Like.
Speaker 1: My most recent breakdown was in the middle of Sheridan.
Speaker 1: I was buying Rue a big girl bed for her birthday.
Speaker 1: I thought this would be so nice. It was a Friday,
Speaker 1: I had the baby, I had her. I'm going to
Speaker 1: take her out and we're going to get big girl
Speaker 1: sheets for your bed. I said, you can pick them out. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I was only going to give her the ones I liked,
Speaker 1: and she could pick from those. Yes, And we went
Speaker 1: to two shops and then I was like, why am
Speaker 1: I giving her like the options of shops? Like I
Speaker 1: kind of fucked up. I know that I did. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we get to Sheridan and I'm like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: get everything here. It's all forty percent off, it's all
Speaker 1: good quality, fine done. And she just ran circles around me.
Speaker 1: It was so bad, and I was so exhausted that
Speaker 1: I was weeping in the middle of Sheridan and.
Speaker 2: She screaming or just going crazy, just.
Speaker 1: Going crazy, running around, laughing, pulling things out of boxes.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, but not listening. To you when you
Speaker 2: were like, stop.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, not listening to me. Like the thing with
Speaker 1: Rue is like she isn't a hitter, that isn't anything
Speaker 1: I have to worry about with her, right, but she
Speaker 1: does not listen to me. So I will say her
Speaker 1: name twenty times in a row and she will not
Speaker 1: even look at me. And I cannot tell you how
Speaker 1: frustrating favory when you've spent a whole morning. So up
Speaker 1: until that point, I had said her name a million times,
Speaker 1: like just to get her to do basic stuff. And
Speaker 1: for me, I get really upset when things aren't fair.
Speaker 1: And that's something that I find really and hard about
Speaker 1: raising a toddler.
Speaker 2: It's like because they don't have that.
Speaker 1: They don't give a shit. And I'm like, it's like,
Speaker 1: fus fair, yeah, Like I've done everything for you. All
Speaker 1: I'm asking is for you to not take your arms
Speaker 1: out of your seat, bet in the car because I'm trouble,
Speaker 1: And then I can't duck drive the car, can I
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna lose all my points, not to mention
Speaker 1: the bloody money that happens that you have to pay.
Speaker 1: But I had just reached my limit. It was like
Speaker 1: she does not listen to me. I'm out numbered, I've
Speaker 1: got this baby on me, my boobs are aching, and
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do fucking nice thing for my
Speaker 1: toddler and she does not give a shit. So that
Speaker 1: was my most recent breakdown, and that was off the
Speaker 1: back of Suki just deciding for three days that she
Speaker 1: was not going to sleep like we had been sleeping.
Speaker 1: One thing will happen with the baby, the toddler will
Speaker 1: act up and all compounds. You've had no sleep and
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a disaster. But the toddler calms down,
Speaker 1: you get a solid couple of days sleep or not
Speaker 1: even think I got one good night's sleep, like Suki
Speaker 1: just went back to sleeping pretty well, like only one
Speaker 1: wake up a night. I couldn't put her down during
Speaker 1: those three days basically overnight, so it was like awful,
Speaker 1: But I just got one good night of sleep where
Speaker 1: I could put her in her cot and maybe work
Speaker 1: up once or twice.
Speaker 2: One or two feeds and then goes back to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one to three times I'm waking up overnight
Speaker 1: at the moment, so that's like standard. I can deal
Speaker 1: with normal, but then should go through something developmentally, and
Speaker 1: it was like I could not put her down. I'd
Speaker 1: put her down, turn the lamp off, She'd start crying,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, how am I going to sleep?
Speaker 1: I cannot sleep sitting up anymore.
Speaker 2: My neck is fucked. She still hate the snoop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we sold it.
Speaker 1: We put it on and she screamed. She screamed, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, we don't have enough
Speaker 1: space in the apartment, sell it, get rid of it.
Speaker 1: We got the side sleep all to toe and she
Speaker 1: liked it because she's so clingy, she has to be
Speaker 1: right next to me. I literally will walk into a
Speaker 1: room she's crying, Charlie's holding her. I'll walk into a room.
Speaker 2: And she'll go, ah, I can see her, I can,
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 1: I can smell her, like if I'm in the room,
Speaker 1: Charlie can hold her because she can smell me. But
Speaker 1: if I'm not there, it's just she's getting better, she's
Speaker 1: getting better. But it was really intense there for a moment.
Speaker 1: But what I was saying was that things can switch
Speaker 1: on a dime, but they can also switch back, and
Speaker 1: you'll be surprised at how quickly you can recover with
Speaker 1: like a bit of sleep and a toddler that is
Speaker 1: being nice to you for at least, you know, and
Speaker 1: before they turn on you again.
Speaker 2: The not listening is driving me crazy as well.
Speaker 1: What are you doing because I bribe everything. You're not
Speaker 1: going to daycare unless you do this, And she's like,
Speaker 1: I want to go to daycare, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: put your shoes on.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to see. I have a bribery box,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure the experts you would have a lot
Speaker 2: to say about, but they're not here, are they. I
Speaker 2: am just at my wits end with the not listening
Speaker 2: to me, and I just said it in the way
Speaker 2: that I say it to him. I'm like, you need
Speaker 2: to listen. Yeah, listen to me. Oh my god. It
Speaker 2: drives me insane. And Luke has started night shifts. Oh,
Speaker 2: he hasn't started recently. It's been for like four or
Speaker 2: five weeks now, Yeah, which means that four five nights
Speaker 2: a week. It's just me. Okay, so I have to
Speaker 2: finish work early to pick Lenny up, organized dinner, bath, teeth,
Speaker 2: getting him to bed. Every single thing is on me.
Speaker 2: I'd say overall, I'm mostly fine, but there's some nights
Speaker 2: last Tuesday, he started whining at me in the car
Speaker 2: on the way home, and I literally just burst into
Speaker 2: tears because the thought of another night of just us
Speaker 2: ahead of me with no help, and just also I
Speaker 2: think I'd probably been by myself a lot during the day,
Speaker 2: so I was just like probably a bit lonely as well,
Speaker 2: and I was just so off it. Oh, it's so bleak.
Speaker 1: It's so bleak when you are down the barrel of
Speaker 1: a dinner bathom bed routine. It's all on the toddler
Speaker 1: as to whether or not this goes well exactly. And
Speaker 1: they're psychotic, and so it's literally it's not even fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty, I reckon, it's eighty twenty to whether there's
Speaker 1: no final reason, Like no, you know, you you could think, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if they did nap during the day, then maybe they'll
Speaker 1: be nicer at nighttime.
Speaker 2: No, sometimes he doesn't nap, and he's still an angel.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he has a long as snap and he's an
Speaker 2: absolute monster. Still. Yeah, And I really struggle not to
Speaker 2: lose my temper so much. I lose my temper, like
Speaker 2: I'm so not proud of it, but like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: it's just so to try to not just with a
Speaker 2: awful little monster.
Speaker 1: It's honestly so hard. I'm the same like cal I
Speaker 1: just get really like shouting. I'm like, don't do that.
Speaker 1: All of the good parenting stuff goes out the and
Speaker 1: I'm just there being like bribing it. And they lead
Speaker 1: up to her birthday. I canceled her party maybe one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty times. You know, like you're not having
Speaker 1: a party. That's it. That is not good parenting. But
Speaker 1: they are so young, that's all they understand.
Speaker 2: My thing is, though, is that, like I say this
Speaker 2: to Luke all the time, I'm like, you need to
Speaker 2: give him a punishment that makes sense, and you need
Speaker 2: to follow through with it. However, I still don't actually
Speaker 2: know if that works because the few times that I
Speaker 2: have followed through with Lenny certainly didn't make his behavior
Speaker 2: any better the next day.
Speaker 1: Still no, and I think, like, I can't cancel a
Speaker 1: party that was never going to happen, you know.
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, I follow her sometimes I'm pretty strict.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't, but do you know what I have
Speaker 1: done is that we do put her in her bedroom.
Speaker 1: And I know that this is a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, you can't do this, but I think it's
Speaker 1: different to time out where they're like sitting and looking
Speaker 1: at an empty wall. I say, you've got to go
Speaker 1: and sit in your room. You can play with whatever's
Speaker 1: in there. But that's how I basically break the cycle
Speaker 1: of you're not listening to me, you're having a tantrum.
Speaker 1: It's reached like a ten and there's nothing else for
Speaker 1: me to do, and I myself need a break. So
Speaker 1: she'll send her room she wants. She just scream in
Speaker 1: there though, Yeah she screams, but then she'll pick up
Speaker 1: a book, start reading, coloring in and then I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: have you come down now?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Are you ready to come back out?
Speaker 2: Yes? All right?
Speaker 1: Can we get Oh that sounds good.
Speaker 2: Then it's working.
Speaker 1: Well, it is working, but it feels wrong. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. It feels wrong being like you've got to
Speaker 1: go to your bedroom. I think it's the smartest way
Speaker 1: to do it, to put a little bit of space
Speaker 1: between you both and just to stop the cycle of
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck is going on in their head.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I would do that, but Lenny literally will stand
Speaker 2: at the door, throwing himself against it and screaming no.
Speaker 2: He's an intense little kid.
Speaker 1: He's well, yeah, I mean the screams aren't great, are they.
Speaker 2: It's not good. How did you feel about returning three,
Speaker 2: because remember I made an entire episode learning turning through it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had so many feelings.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit different to you, Like
Speaker 1: I like celebrating those things. I think I like creating
Speaker 1: those core memories. For me. It was really exciting this birthday,
Speaker 1: just because it's the first one they're really going to remember.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think they really remember two, but three.
Speaker 1: She's like, I want a ballerina party. I want a
Speaker 1: blue ey cake, And it was all she talked about
Speaker 1: for months, Like the month leading up to her party.
Speaker 1: It was like every day she would have a tandrum
Speaker 1: because she thought she was going to her party, but no,
Speaker 1: she was going to date.
Speaker 2: Because the concept of time is two minutes, four minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So next time, I'm probably not going to
Speaker 1: tell her until a week out. But it was awesome.
Speaker 1: I was so excited for her to have her birthday
Speaker 1: and for her to like to teach her you know
Speaker 1: that she's this many she's three, because we learned for weeks.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're two and holding up two fingers
Speaker 1: and then you're going to be three soon. So we
Speaker 1: were like learning that, which was really fun, and then
Speaker 1: the actual party, Like I was really proud of how
Speaker 1: the party turned.
Speaker 2: Out so good. Yeah, Kelly came, I did. Sorry. I came,
Speaker 2: and I dressed for the occasion.
Speaker 1: She came and she slaid. She came and she slaid
Speaker 1: in a full too. Two get up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I just tell you, I never look up
Speaker 2: somewhere before I go. Yeah, so I thought it was
Speaker 2: like a sports hall or something that you'd hire it.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, so I didn't think about like other patrons,
Speaker 2: you'd actually been there and I rock up and it's
Speaker 2: like a pub. Yeah. Yeah, it's like our little lots there.
Speaker 2: And I was dressed like a ballet teacher.
Speaker 1: It's true. But you were also like twinning with Charlie
Speaker 1: who had a full leotard, Radley.
Speaker 2: Who was best dressed. He was he was better than
Speaker 2: Rue even with her teeny tiny little bottom and cowboy boots.
Speaker 1: This is the difference between went men and woman. I'm
Speaker 1: like having a bit of a breakdown, being like, oh babe,
Speaker 1: I'm just so overwhelmed with this party planning, Like do
Speaker 1: you have any ideas basically like fishing to be like
Speaker 1: you're not even helping kind of thing. And he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know, I've got to sort out my tutu.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do maybe like a dance with her.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Babe, I'm talking about logistics, not
Speaker 1: about your outfit. I don't fit any of my clothes, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to hear about your tutu that
Speaker 1: you're gonna buy to wear her party.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was the sleigh Dad move though it.
Speaker 1: Was, And you know what, I honestly think I've got
Speaker 1: the formula to having a kid's birthday party which isn't
Speaker 1: overwhelming and stressful. And it all lies and spending a
Speaker 1: bit of cash on a children the entertainer, because honestly,
Speaker 1: it takes the sting out of it for sixty minutes
Speaker 1: or however long you want the entertainer to stay based
Speaker 1: on what your budget is, they are centering your party.
Speaker 1: Basically the kids will all flock to them, and it
Speaker 1: means that you, as an adult hosting a party, are
Speaker 1: able to kind of move around talk to people for
Speaker 1: five minutes, say thanks for coming, catch up with them,
Speaker 1: whereas if you don't have a cholsres an entertainer. They're
Speaker 1: all kind of like running around in different directions and
Speaker 1: it's really stressful and you feel like you can't relax.
Speaker 1: But I felt like I could relax at that part.
Speaker 2: It's good. I looked like the children's entertainer, Well, she
Speaker 2: can just tire me. I'll just do it for you
Speaker 2: for free. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well it's three hundred dollars for sixty minutes. It's not
Speaker 1: a bad gig. When she was leaving, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming, Like, do you need
Speaker 1: help getting to your car? And the whole time she
Speaker 1: was talking to the kids, she had an American accent.
Speaker 1: When she answered me, she was Australian again, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, where's your accent from? And she's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, So we actually talk in an American accent
Speaker 1: because the kids listen to us more. It makes them
Speaker 1: pay attention to what we're saying if we're talking in
Speaker 1: an American accent. And I was like, what, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I watched television, maybe if I call ruin an American accent,
Speaker 1: she'll actually listen to me.
Speaker 2: Do you know what, I will try it to Lenny
Speaker 2: brought back, Lenny, get ready for all out of time?
Speaker 2: Come on, can we tell that she is? What Lenny did?
Speaker 2: It'striddle's birthday body? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh god. I felt bad. But he had a good time.
Speaker 1: Apparently told me he.
Speaker 2: Had a good time, and I was like, are you sure? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he from the moment he walked in, he sat and
Speaker 2: glared and hid.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you understand now why I don't like children's birthday parties?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, well, because you don't really get to have
Speaker 1: time to enjoy the party either, like you're yeah, you're
Speaker 1: sitting with him. He's just so shy and shy things.
Speaker 1: And I get it because whenever I go someone with real,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh great, it's gonna be like half an
Speaker 1: hour forty five minutes before she let's go with me
Speaker 1: and then enjoys what we're doing. But that didn't finish
Speaker 1: fill in It.
Speaker 2: Was no, that did not. The only time he was
Speaker 2: happy was when we were on the football field kicking
Speaker 2: a ball, just us. Yeah, like he actually And then
Speaker 2: we went onto the play equipment, but no other children
Speaker 2: from the birthday party with hair and he goes, mummy.
Speaker 2: I say hello to like one random boy who then
Speaker 2: asked me why Lenny was wearing a dress.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it was a ballerina party, so all
Speaker 1: of the kids were wearing two does.
Speaker 2: And that's so cu really cute. Well, even if it
Speaker 2: wasn't a ballerina party, he can wear whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: he wants exactly. And the thing that breaks my heart
Speaker 2: is that he was so excited, like he just gets
Speaker 2: so overwhelmed, and you know, but he kept being like, oh,
Speaker 2: where Strudle And I'm like, oh, Darling, she's busy actually
Speaker 2: having fun. She doesn't want to come and sit in
Speaker 2: a corner with you, like I.
Speaker 1: Know, but that's just, you know what, He's better in
Speaker 1: a one on one scenario, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: Like like if he's really comfortable and not too many adults.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a lot of Look, there was I
Speaker 1: don't know how, but I somehow, with a newborn, ended
Speaker 1: up planning a party for sixty people, twenty kids and
Speaker 1: forty adults. I was like, very chill about the party,
Speaker 1: and then I realized how many people coming and I
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, but it was fine.
Speaker 2: It was at a pub, so it was fine. Like
Speaker 2: it was fine.
Speaker 1: And again, the children's entertaining was great. Outsourcing your cake.
Speaker 1: Lucy and her boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Job they al it. I mean, sorry, Lucy, but you
Speaker 2: didn't really do anything John John, Oh it was so good.
Speaker 2: Was it gluten free? Did you get to eat any Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was gluten free dairy free.
Speaker 2: You're joking. It was that good and gluten and dairy free. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She makes it every year the same. It's just packet
Speaker 1: mix actually that they get this awesome dairy gluten and
Speaker 1: dairy free one.
Speaker 2: It was so yummy. Lenny did enjoy his piece of cake.
Speaker 2: And he really liked the goodie bag. Oh yes, the
Speaker 2: slimy rag.
Speaker 1: I slayed the goodie bags. Can I just say, I've
Speaker 1: been going to a few parties and like the goodie bags.
Speaker 1: All the parents are like, can we not do goody
Speaker 1: bags anymore? Because they're just full of lollies, because that's
Speaker 1: what they're meant to be. But I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: how do I like make this different? So I went
Speaker 1: onto Amazon and I got these mini coloring in books,
Speaker 1: packs of stickers, I got some slime. I got some Plato,
Speaker 1: like not real Plato, like fake Plato that's cheap, all
Speaker 1: of Amazon and it was so good.
Speaker 2: And the cars there were some with cars because Lenny
Speaker 2: got on with cars, which he was thrilled about.
Speaker 1: And then I put a little nostalgia purposes, like a
Speaker 1: little roll up in there. For the sweet things, I thought,
Speaker 1: that's kind of like fun. We had them when we
Speaker 1: were kids.
Speaker 2: I think it's nice to have one sweet thing.
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, But honestly, I was so
Speaker 1: proud of that birthday party.
Speaker 2: It's late.
Speaker 1: I have never enjoyed hosting as much as I did
Speaker 1: for that bay and I really liked it, considering how
Speaker 1: like that was also the day after, or the weekend
Speaker 1: after I had my breakdown in Sheridan, So yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go about.
Speaker 2: Did she clean up? I was really jealous of how
Speaker 2: many beautifully riped gifts she had because I love presents.
Speaker 1: Literally today I have to go out and buy a
Speaker 1: new storage container because she has so many gifts, which
Speaker 1: is so nice. She's so lucky, and all of them
Speaker 1: are like so well fought, like hell, the books that
Speaker 1: you got her very good, she's obsessed, very cool good.
Speaker 2: I got her an arrangement of activity books and normal
Speaker 2: books about Ballerina's.
Speaker 1: Very cute, very cute. And she also got a few
Speaker 1: dress ups. This time a couple of tea party sets,
Speaker 1: so it's so cute. But now I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: currently all sitting next to me, I need to put
Speaker 1: these somewhere, so I'm just gonna go and buy some
Speaker 1: of those, like you know.
Speaker 2: She had so much fun and wrapping them all.
Speaker 1: It took us three days to unwrap the presents, like
Speaker 1: we would unwrap some every night, but because Charlie gets
Speaker 1: home late from work and he wanted to see her
Speaker 1: unwrap them, I'm like, yeah, Pattie gets home and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we really need to kind of
Speaker 1: go to bird now, so just do two. And it
Speaker 1: was good.
Speaker 2: I think as well. They get so overwhelmed with toys
Speaker 2: and new things, so that's probably a really good way
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also I wanted her to kind of take
Speaker 1: stock of what she was getting. You know, have you
Speaker 1: ever seen the kids at Christmas and they just like
Speaker 1: rip one open and that moves straight on too the
Speaker 1: next because it's not so like and I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let's just like take stock of what we've got and
Speaker 1: be thankful. I was trying to explain to her, like,
Speaker 1: not everyone as lucky as you are, Like you're very
Speaker 1: lucky to get these presents. But yeah, it was really nice,
Speaker 1: and it was so nice seeing everyone, I think is
Speaker 1: the main thing. So yeah, birthday parties, I'm still into them,
Speaker 1: and I'm not upset that she's three. I'm excited, like
Speaker 1: I'm excited to barn her personality for this year.
Speaker 2: You know. Okay, to finish up the episode, we always
Speaker 2: want to leave you with at least one good recommendation,
Speaker 2: because who doesn't love a wreck. So it's the author
Speaker 2: Noel w ill eh Hill. I don't know, we'll link
Speaker 2: her in the show notes. She writes horror books, and
Speaker 2: I read five when I was in Bali in February five. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know why I was reading horror books while
Speaker 2: I was like on a solo trip by myself. That
Speaker 2: was probably a little bit silly. But you know, regardless,
Speaker 2: if you like horror thriller. But the reason I don't
Speaker 2: want to publicly recommend them on Instagram is because some
Speaker 2: of them are a little bit ooh why did your
Speaker 2: brain go there? Kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I always think that about horror stuff. Though, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you have to be a sick person to write anything like.
Speaker 2: True true, but I think it's more so with supernatural.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I just I read a lot
Speaker 2: of thriller, but I don't read a lot of horror,
Speaker 2: and maybe that's very true.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just feels weird that I enjoy reading about that
Speaker 2: sort of thing. But there's obviously lots of other people
Speaker 2: enjoy reading horror. I enjoyed watching horror as well, so.
Speaker 1: New genre that people just love to be scared shitless.
Speaker 2: Not me anyway, Key resells, you have got a bassinetch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this because I mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: that Suki came out and she immediately I just knew
Speaker 1: that she was going to be a clingy baby, that
Speaker 1: she was gonna want me a lot. And I never
Speaker 1: really heard much about co sleepers when I was pregnant
Speaker 1: with Rue. And I think we've got a bit of
Speaker 1: a culture when we have our kids that they've been
Speaker 1: inside of us for nine ten months, and then it's
Speaker 1: like we want them to sleep independently away from us, right,
Speaker 1: But it's not actually realistic. We Kelly and I have
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the fact that we have co
Speaker 1: slept safely in the safe way in which you can
Speaker 1: do so.
Speaker 2: I also co slept very unsafely before I educated myself
Speaker 2: on it because I had no one to talk to
Speaker 2: about it or no one to say hey, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I famously wrote in a girl's chat, who's co sleft?
Speaker 1: And no one answered me, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: the worst mother in the world.
Speaker 2: I'm me And I was like, oh, of course we
Speaker 2: all do. Here's some information so you can do.
Speaker 1: It properly exactly.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: I had heard from a girlfriend of mine about a
Speaker 1: co sleeping basin at and I thought when Suki wasn't
Speaker 1: vibing the snoop, I also found that my anxiety with her,
Speaker 1: for some reason was quite high. I think it was
Speaker 1: because my whole brain was consumed by a toddler that
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like maybe there was enough room for
Speaker 1: me to, like, I don't know, keep my baby safe
Speaker 1: or something. I just wanted to see her at all times.
Speaker 1: And so I actually reached out to our friends at Aultuto,
Speaker 1: who you know, at the start of the year we
Speaker 1: did the sponsorship with for their lovely nursing chair that
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in now, which is just.
Speaker 2: You have become ash one with that chair.
Speaker 1: If you see me, I'm with the chair. We are one.
Speaker 1: And I reached out to our friends all because I
Speaker 1: had heard that their close sleeping bacinet, the Cozy Breeze Plus,
Speaker 1: was amazing, and I just said to them, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: like in the depths of my newborn state, would you
Speaker 1: be interested in me trialing this out and seeing if
Speaker 1: I like it or not. They were really lovely and
Speaker 1: they sent it to me. And I cannot tell you
Speaker 1: how good this crow sleeper has been. You can change
Speaker 1: it from just a normal bacinet on wheels to one
Speaker 1: that rocks. There is an attachment on it that you
Speaker 1: kind of put underneath your mattress so that the co
Speaker 1: sleeper does not move. There isn't like any way it
Speaker 1: can move. And it has a little side that you
Speaker 1: unzip that falls down so that you can basically your
Speaker 1: baby is level with you, so they can really sleep
Speaker 1: next to you, but separately in a bacinet. It's really
Speaker 1: good if you want to breastfeed sidelining.
Speaker 2: So the side comes off. I'm having a look at
Speaker 2: a photo of it.
Speaker 1: I'm here, Yeah, the side comes off, so it's mesh yeah,
Speaker 1: and the side zips down and then your baby you
Speaker 1: can just basically move your baby from your boob, you know,
Speaker 1: into her back over, Yeah, roll her back over. And
Speaker 1: for me, it meant that Suki, I just knew straight
Speaker 1: away she could sense me anywhere. So putting her into
Speaker 1: a basinet just wasn't working. It was too far away
Speaker 1: and it was disturbing her sleep. So being able to
Speaker 1: just pass her into the co sleeping bacinet, which is
Speaker 1: attached to the bed, was so good. And then I
Speaker 1: found that during the day I could wheel that bacinet
Speaker 1: into the lound room and have her next to me.
Speaker 1: Like That's how I was able to work in the
Speaker 1: early days, or even just like watch TV without having
Speaker 1: to hold her. The bacinet was really handy for that.
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit larger than your average like bassinet,
Speaker 1: which is good, so you get a bit more use
Speaker 1: out of it. And it's chic. It's a lovely color
Speaker 1: that looks good. It looked good in the room. But
Speaker 1: I can't recommend it enough. It's just an option to
Speaker 1: have that maybe you haven't thought of, because for some
Speaker 1: reason people don't want to speak about co sleeping in
Speaker 1: ways that they have been able to do that, and
Speaker 1: I just think it's the most genius way to be
Speaker 1: able to co sleep with your baby, have them next
Speaker 1: to you, have them in sight. It was really good
Speaker 1: for my anxiety with her. And yeah, we'll put a
Speaker 1: link in the show notes.
Speaker 2: And with that we will love you and leave you.
Speaker 2: She is. We'll be back next week with a truly
Speaker 2: great rant from key Oh where she shares exactly how
Speaker 2: she's found life lately navigating a toddler and newborn, so
Speaker 2: she will really go into the fresh hell and all
Speaker 2: of the feelings that poor Strudle has had. And I
Speaker 2: say poor Strudle, but I should say poor Key Yeah, us.
Speaker 1: Or both of us really our last reminder to please
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Speaker 1: audio production and general awesomeness by Maddie joannau See. And
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Speaker 2: Bye, good to be back.
Speaker 1: Woo