WEBVTT - We’re Back, Better Than Ever 😈

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<v Speaker 1>We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Welcome back, shitters. Oh gosh, it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>be back. It is a brand spanking new season and

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<v Speaker 2>error of your all time favorite podcast, Eat, Sleep, Shit, Repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>your unhinged podcast about the madness that is motherhood and

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<v Speaker 2>everything in between. I'm Kelly mccaren.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back baby, not officially yet in studio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kiries and I'm currently have a baby not attached to

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<v Speaker 1>me right now, but any moment now she is going

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<v Speaker 1>to wake and attached to my very engorged, mastitis filled

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<v Speaker 1>right breast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh poor thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the front line here for the shitters, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're back in front of the mic, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to be using my brain in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, if you are new here, welcome And if

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<v Speaker 2>you missed us, welcome back. We really missed the show too,

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<v Speaker 2>and the messages I've been receiving we've been off really

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<v Speaker 2>reminded me just how important it is and the impact

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<v Speaker 2>that it's having all over the world. Now. Really, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been a couple that I've sent through to key from

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<v Speaker 2>like random locations that she's like, Oh, whoa, We've got

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<v Speaker 2>shit is everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Isn't it cool? That's what's so fun about podcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you never know who is listening. Speaking of though,

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<v Speaker 1>can we actually take this opportunity, just at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of a brand new season, brand new show, to kindly

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<v Speaker 1>request that you go and leave us a rating and review.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to make the pod bigger and better than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really need the Shit has helped to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's super easy. You just find us wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to your podcast, So right now, wherever you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>scroll down, make sure you're subscribed, and then leave us

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<v Speaker 1>a little rating and review.

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<v Speaker 2>So, with this new season and era of the pod,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the word error. I know that it's era,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like saying error just error more impactful. We

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<v Speaker 2>are going to try to do things a little bit differently,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you are welcome to share your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>and feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So after a few months of this new format,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be putting out the feelers to see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're thinking and see what the general consensus is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if the majority of our shitter is aren't vibing

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<v Speaker 1>the new format. Then we're going to switch it up again.

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<v Speaker 1>We just want the show to grow and evolve as

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<v Speaker 1>we are growing and evolving too.

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<v Speaker 2>So today's episode is going to be a standalone catch

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<v Speaker 2>up episode in probably some pretty curty glory because it

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<v Speaker 2>is us, we will update you on exactly what the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck has been going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from next week our monthly rotation of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>will start and it's going to revert back to the

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<v Speaker 1>start every four weeks. So if that's confusing, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to run you through it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first episode of every rotation will be a

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<v Speaker 2>good old fashioned rant, probably one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 2>to do. This episode will kick off with both of

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<v Speaker 2>us doing our weekly peek and pit.

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<v Speaker 1>Then can I just be a bitch for a sec?

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<v Speaker 1>This was actually inspired by one of my favorite podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>that I listened to called Las Culturistas. Shout out to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they're not going to listen, but we have to

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<v Speaker 1>give credit where credit's due, and we're going to link

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<v Speaker 1>them in the show notes so you can start listening

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<v Speaker 1>to them because you will love So the rant will

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<v Speaker 1>go for like mac sixty seconds and it's timed and

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<v Speaker 1>it's about something that we are annoyed with, about motherhood,

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<v Speaker 1>about something that's happening with our little ones and.

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<v Speaker 2>Our life, really like something's just really grading on us.

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<v Speaker 1>Just relatable stuff that we are talking about, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to debate or have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion about the topic in question. We will of

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<v Speaker 1>course take turns, but I'm going to be kicking off

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<v Speaker 1>things next week because it's only fair that I get

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<v Speaker 1>to rant about the fresh hell that is going from

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<v Speaker 1>one to two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sort of trumps like what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, which is just my cat who insists on

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<v Speaker 2>urinating where she shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>To fix, really really annoying. I need help. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>next episode will be I just don't know if I care.

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<v Speaker 2>So every month, once again we'll bring article, a study,

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<v Speaker 2>a report, or you know, TikTok video that's really conversation

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<v Speaker 2>provoking and thought provoking and something that people really seem

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<v Speaker 2>to care about but we just don't know if we do,

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<v Speaker 2>so are we interested or does it boor us to sleep?

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<v Speaker 2>This will also just be a really good deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>for shitters who can't be ass looking into things and

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<v Speaker 2>want them explain to them in like a really easy

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<v Speaker 2>to digest way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm always like, let's talk about the study

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<v Speaker 1>and Cal's like that's boring, and I'm like, but someone

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<v Speaker 1>might care. So then also originated from.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea is that we've got to make it interesting

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<v Speaker 2>exactly exactly at the end, we just go nas still

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<v Speaker 2>don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I don't care, but thanks for your work done.

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<v Speaker 1>So the third episode will be shitter Led. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a guest joining us and they'll be kicking

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<v Speaker 1>off a convo with their sixty second bitch about something

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<v Speaker 1>before we have a good old fashioned yap and yeah

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<v Speaker 1>with them about it. So no experts unless they're super

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<v Speaker 1>fun and interesting. We're just going to be getting on

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<v Speaker 1>your regular Joe blows, friends of ours, people we know

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<v Speaker 1>that are going through the same things. Hit is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>shit is, shit is.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, every month our rotation will finish with an episode

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated to drunk parenting advice with us, except we're not

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be drunk because sometimes we might be

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<v Speaker 2>recording at nine am on a Tuesday and no judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know we're not on holidays. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>loved the Unhinged solo app I did, so we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to make it into a regular thing. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>one episode per month that we won't have a peek

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<v Speaker 2>and pit. We're just going to drive straight into your conundrums.

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<v Speaker 2>Questions please if you will, and you can submit your

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<v Speaker 2>questions via the link on our install It'll just live

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<v Speaker 2>in the bio and it will always be completely anonymous. Yep, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the plan and we're really excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But as promised, we kind of need to catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bit that's been on, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have so much to catch up on. Okay, key,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell is going on in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god? Well, I'll start off with the biggest thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because as if having a newborn whilst also having a

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<v Speaker 1>toddler isn't enough, We are trying to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, And are you feeling really defeated? Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. We are in our fifth month of looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a house. We have been every single Saturday, bar

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend of Rou's birthday to open homes, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been going during the week and we have come really

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<v Speaker 1>close twice. The first time, I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>our house the second time was our house and someone

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<v Speaker 1>stole it from us, so that's pretty hard to get over.

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<v Speaker 1>But my God, like it really opens your eyes up

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<v Speaker 1>to the process. Like everyone says, it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most stressful things you'll do in your life is buying

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<v Speaker 1>a house and having a baby, which we've decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do both at the same time, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Very stupid, which we know.

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<v Speaker 1>But literally my apartment is I hate it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about UKL but like when you're living somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>That you just hate, you want out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want out, And because it's also where I work,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't have a sanctuary. And because I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>all the time with the baby and working, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a little much. So I think it's the stakes are

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<v Speaker 1>a bit higher. I've also been through a complete identity

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<v Speaker 1>crisis because spoiler alert, we cannot afford to live on

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<v Speaker 1>the beaches in Sydney. It's just not attainable for us,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are going suburban outrageous, So it's also been

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an identity crisis. But I'm feeling really

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<v Speaker 1>good about the area.

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<v Speaker 2>Key is so funny with something she messaged me one day,

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, do you know much about this suburb, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, yeah, I've got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>friends that lived there. I used to live like two

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<v Speaker 2>suburbs from there. It was really great bub bluh. And

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, oh, I just don't know. Maybe I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with that person and talk to them about oposed.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've never met someone that's just like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's really okay. But this is my reasoning, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I grew up in britzee shout out to Brisbane,

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<v Speaker 1>we love you. Have lived in Sydney for ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>have only lived in the same suburb for ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>So whereas I've always chopped changed suburbs exactly, I've lived

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<v Speaker 2>in the most rogue Sydney suburbs, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>the right way to do.

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<v Speaker 1>With anyone that's moving to Sydney who I chat to,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, biggest piece of advice. I really regret

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<v Speaker 1>not moving around when I didn't have like ties like now,

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<v Speaker 1>when the thing that kind of decides the area that

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<v Speaker 1>we want to live in is like, is there a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of community.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the schools great? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we zoned? Like all of those really sensible questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas when you're younger and a bit more agile, you

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<v Speaker 1>can live where it's really cool and fun and edgy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right now where I live, it's like, on a

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night going out with a baby and a toddler,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking into a freaking night club on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so not good. So we had a big weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We were looking at houses in the suburb that we

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<v Speaker 1>want to move to, and we had our friend's birthday

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<v Speaker 1>party who they live out there as well, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would just honestly, it's the best day I've had in

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<v Speaker 1>so long. Even though I had mass status and was

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<v Speaker 1>like in paying serious pain the whole time, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice being in our suburb that we're hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>move to. And then we came back to our house

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<v Speaker 1>and we were just like fucking the suburb.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the news is were buying a house but

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<v Speaker 1>haven't found one yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think I've worked with different people that

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<v Speaker 2>have been like on the auction circuit before and it

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<v Speaker 2>just seems awful, like weekend after weekend, Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I stopped before I even really started looking like

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<v Speaker 2>we were looking, but we didn't actually, like ever go

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<v Speaker 2>bid on something or go speak to a bank. And

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<v Speaker 2>I still sometimes have a peek at real estate dot

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<v Speaker 2>com just to see what's.

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<v Speaker 1>How addictive is it once you get into the hang

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, with everything that's been going on with my nanny,

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<v Speaker 2>I just was feeling like extra sentimental about keeping her house,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I get that I don't really need any more,

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<v Speaker 2>like we could really use it, but like that's we

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<v Speaker 2>don't need it. And yeah, so that's sort of been

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<v Speaker 2>put on hiatus for a while. But I do at

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<v Speaker 2>some point need to speak to someone about money because

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no idea what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, financial advisor, I reckon that's a good good step

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<v Speaker 1>for that. I luckily have Charlie, who is in finance,

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<v Speaker 1>really good with money. He knows what to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we were not together, I would be getting definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a financial advisor. You just want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you're making the right choices with your money, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't teach you that stuff at school, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to find someone who is going to educate

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<v Speaker 1>you and give you tips and tricks on what to

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<v Speaker 1>actually deal with it to make your money grow.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not very good at spending money. On things

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<v Speaker 2>that bore me, which is why I still don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a proper accountant. I've given you my accountant's name, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just so like, I hate spending money on things

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<v Speaker 2>that are boring, Like I'll spend the most outrageous money

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<v Speaker 2>on things that are fun and like pretty, but on

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that that's going to benefit me more. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>hate it, hate it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I guess because it's not a house is

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<v Speaker 1>tangible because you'll be living in it. But I get

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean. It is snoozy. It's like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>You're Red Joe, You're like, oh, this is annoying, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to do it or else I can't drive

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<v Speaker 1>my car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I need to update everyone on my beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>nanny because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still like people of wanting to know what's going on. Dying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not funny, but Gallow's humor it is like a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit funny. So, like six weeks ago, the doctor said, yeah,

0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.200
<v Speaker 2>she's dying. There was the palliative like little sign on

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<v Speaker 2>the door at the aged care thing. Everyone was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>with her around the clock, like she did not have

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<v Speaker 2>long Yeah. Sometimes you know when you just do things

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<v Speaker 2>and then you look back on it and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>for goodness sake. So at one point I posted this

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<v Speaker 2>like sad little video on Instagram going, well, it's Nanny's

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<v Speaker 2>time and it's time for her to go. And now

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<v Speaker 2>it's like six weeks later, well she's still here, duh

0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.880
<v Speaker 2>with no, she's not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but cal those were real emotions in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was talking to you pretty much every day.

0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.160
<v Speaker 1>She's a strong woman actually, and she's turned it around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why it's just so funny because her entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's got four boys. When they were all really little,

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<v Speaker 2>she was in quite a bad accident and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>she's got like this thing on her head. So she

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<v Speaker 2>was in such a bad car accident for my first birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>That was her first ever heart attack where she needed

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<v Speaker 2>a triple bypass. What she since had a further two

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, like severe heart attacks with triple bypasses.

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<v Speaker 2>She has emphysema. She had a fall so bad in

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<v Speaker 2>Perth that she was in a hospital for weeks in

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<v Speaker 2>her entire body like she was black and blue. She

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<v Speaker 2>was in such a bad car accident that the other

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<v Speaker 2>person in the car ended up dying. This was such

0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a bad car accident. She's been in car accidents with

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<v Speaker 2>me before. I had to save her from drowning when

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even swim that well myself in the pool

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<v Speaker 2>that my sister now owns. She got hit by a

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<v Speaker 2>boss Kelly, I'm not joking. She got this as wild

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<v Speaker 2>how it was in the paper local elderly woman hit

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<v Speaker 2>by bus. She was fine. There is just so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>She is so resilient, resilient, but and lucky and lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so lucky. But it is also really sad and

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<v Speaker 2>awful because there's no way if she was of sound

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<v Speaker 2>to mind that she would want to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I know, I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's back up and at it, but not walking.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's in a chair every day. Like they use

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<v Speaker 2>this little thing. It's quite funny. It's like you know

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<v Speaker 2>those things that they used to get sea creatures out

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<v Speaker 2>of the ocean, like a little hammock almost, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they get her in and out of bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, someone proll shamoo back in the ocean,

0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and the nurses don't really get my humor. Anyway. So

0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.080
<v Speaker 2>she's in the chair like she's got a catheter in

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<v Speaker 2>permanently and like there's just no dignity left and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no Yeah, she's just such a proud lady. And the dementia,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she doesn't know who I am ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the time, and I've got a good sense

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<v Speaker 2>of human most of the time. Like, you know, she'll

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<v Speaker 2>say to me, I've never seen you before and you're

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, and I'm like, well, that's unfortunately not true.

0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm so glad that I bother coming

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<v Speaker 2>every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's one of those

0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.080
<v Speaker 2>things where she's not eating and drinking that much, and

0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I know that she's tiny and not doing that much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't see how you can sort of go

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<v Speaker 2>on for too long eating and drinking such little amounts.

0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's just like this long, awful process. But

0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:47.200
<v Speaker 2>my god, that lady is stubborn and resilient, and you know,

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.240
<v Speaker 2>she's my nanny through and through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's often I think, especially with dementia. I've experienced

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<v Speaker 1>at it within our family, and it's often harder for

0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the people that are left caring for them. I just

0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:06.320
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like there's enough acknowledgment of that, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to still show up for someone every day,

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<v Speaker 1>which you would do it in any circumstance, of course,

0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.360
<v Speaker 1>but when they don't remember who you are, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult sometimes just to not not let it affect you deeply.

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<v Speaker 1>So to have a sense of humor about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is the best way.

0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.080
<v Speaker 2>It's the only way. Key You've got to laugh, where

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<v Speaker 2>you cry our life motto. Because it's also sometimes and

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<v Speaker 2>that people don't really talk about. They can get quite cranky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes, because.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very frustrated as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They called it at my Nana's thing, they called it

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<v Speaker 1>the like when it's coming sundowners sundown. Is that's right, Yeah,

0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want to come at that time because it's

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<v Speaker 1>awful basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but I sort of have to go at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. Well not at the moment actually, because she's

0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.080
<v Speaker 2>eating a lot more and better. But there was a

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<v Speaker 2>period like a couple of weeks where I went every

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<v Speaker 2>single night for dinner to make sure that she ate

0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.040
<v Speaker 2>some dinner. Yeah, because like even if I could just

0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.400
<v Speaker 2>get her dessert into her, I was like, that's better

0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.200
<v Speaker 2>than nothing. But like, yeah, she was shouting at me

0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and like get away. I don't want it, and I'm like, Nanny, please,

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.360
<v Speaker 2>you have to eat something like for your own health.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, anyway, and then I was thinking I was

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<v Speaker 2>having like a big sob about it last night because

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, Oh my god, imagine if I was

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<v Speaker 2>her age and I didn't recognize Lenny, Like, it's dementia

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<v Speaker 2>is fucked. It is the Yeah, it's really It's so cruel.

0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It's really cruel.

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<v Speaker 2>Because at the end all we have our people and

0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.880
<v Speaker 2>our memories of our people. If you don't have that,

0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really heartbreaking. I remember my grandad got released from

0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>hospitals is when he was dying and basically there was

0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.520
<v Speaker 1>nothing else they could do for him, so he was

0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.120
<v Speaker 1>released into palliat of care. And my nana's dementia because

0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of obviously he had this heart attack and that his

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<v Speaker 1>end of life was approaching, it sped up her dementia,

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.000
<v Speaker 1>which often does when traumatic events happen. And I just

0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.920
<v Speaker 1>remember standing outside of the room when we had brought

0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 1>them back together after he had been in hospital and

0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.560
<v Speaker 1>she had moved into the home, and I remember him

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<v Speaker 1>just like pleading with her to remember who he was,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm your husband, like you're my wife, like we

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<v Speaker 1>love each other. That was the hardest thing I have

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard, Like it was just heartbreaking, heartbreaking, and he

0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.439
<v Speaker 1>had been living with her and her dementia. They had

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.880
<v Speaker 1>hidden it from us for years. We all had suspicions,

0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.440
<v Speaker 1>but it never was told to us, and obviously when

0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.879
<v Speaker 1>everything happened, it all kind of came out. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the cruelest of cruel thing that can happen to you

0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.080
<v Speaker 1>when you live a long life and you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the age where you just want to enjoy life, and

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>then that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just awful.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really think of you guys all the time

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I think, even though she doesn't remember you,

0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you being there with her is just so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And she does sometimes yeah, yeah, Like there's usually because

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<v Speaker 2>I ask her every day and I never like try

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:04.879
<v Speaker 2>to force it or anything, but every day I go,

0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.520
<v Speaker 2>do you know who I am? And she most of

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.920
<v Speaker 2>the time is like she just laughs and she goes no,

0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.119
<v Speaker 2>or most of the time though she's still sort of

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.400
<v Speaker 2>happy to see me. But then every now' they're familiar.

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I think they like they know you're familiar, so they

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<v Speaker 1>know that you're safe, safe, and they.

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Don't really know who you are.

0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.240
<v Speaker 2>It did break my heart though one day when I

0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.200
<v Speaker 2>went to grab her hand and she sort of flinched,

0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.399
<v Speaker 2>and then I realized, like, oh my god, she doesn't know,

0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.160
<v Speaker 2>like I'm just a weird stranger touching her. Yeah. Yeah,

0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.720
<v Speaker 2>fucked me like that was awful. But the other day

0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.240
<v Speaker 2>she looks at me when I asked that question, she goes,

0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you're my granddaughter, like it was just so, and it's

0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.040
<v Speaker 2>like whenever those moments happen, she looks at me like

0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:49.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm crazy, Like as if I wouldn't know who you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so I have to tell you something funny that

0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I do when I'm stressed. Yeah, And because I'm currently

0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.800
<v Speaker 2>recording this in lef his room because there's so much space.

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.639
<v Speaker 2>When I'm stressed, I get rid of things.

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes, yep.

0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So I sold. There was like a couple of days

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.080
<v Speaker 2>where people were just turning up because I was just

0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.280
<v Speaker 2>selling things on Facebook marketplace, but I didn't have anything

0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.919
<v Speaker 2>to replace it with. So now I'm just living in

0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.879
<v Speaker 2>some pretty empty spaces with just piles of crap everywhere.

0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that. You just want like quick things

0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to make you feel good. So you're like, I'm going

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to sell this. I'm going to sell this, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>like oh.

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And then I was doing some donations and oh my goodness,

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I have like a bit of a rant at some

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 2>point to go on about Salvos and Vinnie's and the donations.

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 2>But I was giving away some really good stuff and

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.359
<v Speaker 2>my sister was like looking through one of the bags

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, why are you getting rid of these?

0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 2>You love these. I just.

0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Sit with you while you're getting rid of the things.

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I probably needed someone here when I was

0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.199
<v Speaker 2>selling everything on Facebook marketplace. Yeah, I know.

0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>You were showing me Lenny's big boy bend. You're like, yeah,

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.400
<v Speaker 1>just don't look at the piles. There's nothing to put

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 1>his things in. And I was just like, all right,

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna ask. I'm just gonna push through.

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Cute bed that was a few weeks ago. We're still here,

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and the bed also doesn't have anything on it because

0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the cat keeps pissing on it. Honestly, she's doing my

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.160
<v Speaker 2>head in. Every time I make the bed, she pisses

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 2>on it. She also pisses on Luke's clothes, like piles

0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 2>of clothes. But that's it. It's so annoying.

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.359
<v Speaker 1>It must be like a becuse.

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Men.

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's some hormone that they release.

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got to get a dsex soon, so hopefully

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:34.119
<v Speaker 2>that will help.

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Fuck, that's annoying. No, I can't deal with pee.

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 2>It just it's disgusting. He I would rather pooh.

0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Pooh's a lot easier to deal with. We it

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just seeps into stuff and it seeps.

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.120
<v Speaker 2>And cat wi smells disgusting.

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not great.

0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like there dehydrated elderly men. That's how bad he is.

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I didn't need that. I could have done about that,

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:57.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. I know that we're going to get into the

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.760
<v Speaker 2>going from one to two more in your round next week,

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.959
<v Speaker 2>but talk to us a little about like how you're

0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 2>going with wrangling and newborn managing businesses, dealing with the

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 2>shit show that is life.

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.479
<v Speaker 1>It is not for the fainthearted. I think it is.

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Really it's really testing me. I think I have to say, like,

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we have got a pretty easy baby, and I think

0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that had she not been easy I would have lost

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.480
<v Speaker 1>my mind, because I already did a couple of times.

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Over I wouldn't say that she's an easy baby. From

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 2>what I've heard, she doesn't sleep independently most of the time.

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Well no, that was in her first weeks of being

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a baby, but now she.

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't sleep in a cot or like at nighttime.

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't sleep in a cot at nighttime. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is all in like I feel like we're now she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be thirteen weeks this week, still just over three months,

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>so she's still a baby, not a newborn anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the first eight weeks it was rough

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<v Speaker 1>because I was really trying to breastfeed and get everything

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<v Speaker 1>happening with that. I was trying to learn who she was,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was just a very clingy baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Very different to Rue, very different to Rue.

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Rue was like really happy to be swaddled really tightly

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<v Speaker 1>and sat down and she would just kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>with the flow. But very quickly I learned that Suki

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be on me. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in the first eight weeks, I would say, is

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<v Speaker 1>when it was extremely hard, because I think what happens

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.880
<v Speaker 1>is like you forget the newborn stage. So I had

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 1>like blacked out or something that first bit, but everyone

0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 1>kept I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think everyone does. And it was quite funny though when

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.360
<v Speaker 2>people would be like, oh, does Key having a newborn

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>make you clucky? It all? But like talking to you

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 2>every day, I was like, God, no.

0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>No, we were in the trenches. Like I can't even

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 1>imagine had she not been a good feeder, had something

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 1>else been wrong, because it was tough and she was

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<v Speaker 1>a very textbook baby. Like everything I was saying to

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 1>my midwife, which can I just it is obviously a

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>massive investment and something that was such a privilege for

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 1>me to be able to do. But having that midwife

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 1>come every second day and every four days and every

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>week for like six weeks postpartum was the best thing

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>because I was going to her, is this normal? Is

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>this normal? She's like, I don't know what to tell

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>your key, Like she's gaining weight, she's really happy, she's

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>looking good. She's just a baby.

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 2>She's just a baby. And that was just so cute

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and smiley.

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 1>She's so cute and smiling. She's just the most delicious thing.

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 1>But that was the thing that I think was the

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<v Speaker 1>most difference this time. It's like, obviously, yes, you've done

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it before, but it really doesn't mean anything because there's

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>completely different personalities, right, So you don't get freaked out

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>by like if they don't pooh for a few days,

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>because they're like, okay, that's normal. So you're not as

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>highly strung, but you're still really tired because you've got

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>another baby as well to look after another toddler.

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>But I wake having still.

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And they wake up still, and they get in the

0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 1>bed and the dogs in the bed, and it's like,

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>thank god, you've got a king bed, because fucking I'd

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>be sleeping on the floor if not. But I think

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>what was so good is just reassuring that she's a baby,

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like this is all normal stuff, Like don't worry, there's

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 1>nothing more that you can do. So having someone to

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>remind me was like, yep, I've just got to lean

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>into it. So I just leant into it. For the

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>first three months of her life, it was like she

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>only sleeps on me. That's fine, that's it. I just

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of get used to it. And also

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 1>like trying to work, it was like I just have

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to go with the flow, Like if I'm recording a

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast and she's talking or yupping or crying or whatever.

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>To not let it stress me out.

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean fair enough. If she's crying, then you

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 2>know you sort of have to press pause. But yeah,

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 2>she's having a gurg or having a suck like, it's fine.

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And so I think it has been really hard.

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Like, don't get me wrong, there are days when I

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>have called Charlie to be like, you've got to come

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>home now. But it's more so the sleep deprivation and

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>then having to deal with a toddler who is just

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>turned three. It's just a bit of a recipe for

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a disaster. And I think obviously which you can relate

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to Kella's not having I do have my sister in

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>law here who does help and is amazing, but yeah,

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 1>but she's got two young kids herself exactly, and she

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>works full time. So it's like it's not having a

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>grandma around to come. That's the thing that's missing, you know.

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>That. That and not having Charlie's mum this time around

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>to call the way you did with U exactly, which

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I would have been heartbreaking as well, and something both

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.120
<v Speaker 2>to navigate over the past couple of months.

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>It's just an added layer of because you're so happy

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>because you've got this new baby, and they're just delicious

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 1>and delightful. But there's someone that's missing out on and

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>that has been there previously, and you know how excited

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>they were to meet your baby and just to you know,

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>take them off your hands when you're in the depths

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 1>of being like, what the hell am I doing? But

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been good. Like as we've come out of the

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>three months, I feel like once you get past that

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>twelve weeks, it's still hard, of course, but I really

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't think so this time when it was leading up

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to the twelve weeks. I'm not gonna get to twelve

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>weeks and it's all going to feel easier.

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>But somehow it does.

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you just I think it's just a perfect amount

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of time for you to understand the rhythm of your baby.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And obviously things change, but you know, I know that

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>when she wakes up in the morning, I'm gonna feed

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>her and she's going to do a big pooh straight away.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that she's gonna probably want to sleep for

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes after I drop real daycare. Like, you

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>start to notice the consistencies and the patterns, and you're

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like all right, and then that gives you a bit

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>of confidence to plan your day or I don't know,

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just what they say about getting to that twelve

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>weeks that you know through the fourth trimester is really true.

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.120
<v Speaker 1>It kind of gives you a bit of breathing room

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to be able to get to the next bit. Although

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the adrenaline does run out, so I'm falling asleep during

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>every night feed and waking up being like, shit, I've

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>just fallen asleep, Like I've definitely the adrenaline's definitely worn off,

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>but caught a bit of a stride. Do you get

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>to nap during the day, No, because I've scot shit

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to do. Like it's not like when you've got one

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>baby and you're like, I.

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Mean I never napped, obviously, I never napped even with

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>one little baby. Bit yeah I wish that I had.

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was doing that in the early early weeks.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>But now I'll get I'll have a shit night and

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, I've got to take a nap today,

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and the day just gets away from me. It's like, well, no,

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>there's stuff to do. I've got to reset the house.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>A house is a mess like toddlers are so messy.

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 2>They are so messy, they get their every single toe out,

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Like God, I'm obviously painting this with a very positive brush. Like.

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>My most recent breakdown was in the middle of Sheridan.

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I was buying Rue a big girl bed for her birthday.

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought this would be so nice. It was a Friday,

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I had the baby, I had her. I'm going to

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>take her out and we're going to get big girl

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>sheets for your bed. I said, you can pick them out. Obviously,

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I was only going to give her the ones I liked,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and she could pick from those. Yes, And we went

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 1>to two shops and then I was like, why am

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I giving her like the options of shops? Like I

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of fucked up. I know that I did. Anyway,

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>we get to Sheridan and I'm like, I'm just gonna

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>get everything here. It's all forty percent off, it's all

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>good quality, fine done. And she just ran circles around me.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>It was so bad, and I was so exhausted that

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I was weeping in the middle of Sheridan and.

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 2>She screaming or just going crazy, just.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Going crazy, running around, laughing, pulling things out of boxes.

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.719
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, but not listening. To you when you

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>were like, stop.

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>It, yeah, not listening to me. Like the thing with

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Rue is like she isn't a hitter, that isn't anything

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I have to worry about with her, right, but she

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>does not listen to me. So I will say her

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>name twenty times in a row and she will not

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>even look at me. And I cannot tell you how

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>frustrating favory when you've spent a whole morning. So up

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>until that point, I had said her name a million times,

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>like just to get her to do basic stuff. And

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>for me, I get really upset when things aren't fair.

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's something that I find really and hard about

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>raising a toddler.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like because they don't have that.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>They don't give a shit. And I'm like, it's like,

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>fus fair, yeah, Like I've done everything for you. All

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking is for you to not take your arms

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>out of your seat, bet in the car because I'm trouble,

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And then I can't duck drive the car, can I

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm gonna lose all my points, not to mention

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the bloody money that happens that you have to pay.

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>But I had just reached my limit. It was like

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>she does not listen to me. I'm out numbered, I've

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>got this baby on me, my boobs are aching, and

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to do fucking nice thing for my

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>toddler and she does not give a shit. So that

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>was my most recent breakdown, and that was off the

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>back of Suki just deciding for three days that she

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>was not going to sleep like we had been sleeping.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>One thing will happen with the baby, the toddler will

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>act up and all compounds. You've had no sleep and

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of a disaster. But the toddler calms down,

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you get a solid couple of days sleep or not

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>even think I got one good night's sleep, like Suki

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>just went back to sleeping pretty well, like only one

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>wake up a night. I couldn't put her down during

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>those three days basically overnight, so it was like awful,

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>But I just got one good night of sleep where

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I could put her in her cot and maybe work

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>up once or twice.

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 2>One or two feeds and then goes back to sleep.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's one to three times I'm waking up overnight

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>at the moment, so that's like standard. I can deal

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>with normal, but then should go through something developmentally, and

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like I could not put her down. I'd

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>put her down, turn the lamp off, She'd start crying,

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, how am I going to sleep?

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I cannot sleep sitting up anymore.

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>My neck is fucked. She still hate the snoop. Yeah,

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:35.959
<v Speaker 2>we sold it.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>We put it on and she screamed. She screamed, and

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, all right, we don't have enough

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>space in the apartment, sell it, get rid of it.

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>We got the side sleep all to toe and she

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>liked it because she's so clingy, she has to be

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>right next to me. I literally will walk into a

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>room she's crying, Charlie's holding her. I'll walk into a room.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And she'll go, ah, I can see her, I can,

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I can.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I can smell her, like if I'm in the room,

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Charlie can hold her because she can smell me. But

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not there, it's just she's getting better, she's

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>getting better. But it was really intense there for a moment.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>But what I was saying was that things can switch

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>on a dime, but they can also switch back, and

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you'll be surprised at how quickly you can recover with

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like a bit of sleep and a toddler that is

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>being nice to you for at least, you know, and

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>before they turn on you again.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>The not listening is driving me crazy as well.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing because I bribe everything. You're not

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>going to daycare unless you do this, And she's like,

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to daycare, and I'm like, well,

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>put your shoes on.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to see. I have a bribery box,

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>which I'm sure the experts you would have a lot

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>to say about, but they're not here, are they. I

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>am just at my wits end with the not listening

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>to me, and I just said it in the way

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that I say it to him. I'm like, you need

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>to listen. Yeah, listen to me. Oh my god. It

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 2>drives me insane. And Luke has started night shifts. Oh,

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>he hasn't started recently. It's been for like four or

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>five weeks now, Yeah, which means that four five nights

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>a week. It's just me. Okay, so I have to

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>finish work early to pick Lenny up, organized dinner, bath, teeth,

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 2>getting him to bed. Every single thing is on me.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd say overall, I'm mostly fine, but there's some nights

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>last Tuesday, he started whining at me in the car

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>on the way home, and I literally just burst into

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>tears because the thought of another night of just us

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>ahead of me with no help, and just also I

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>think I'd probably been by myself a lot during the day,

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>so I was just like probably a bit lonely as well,

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and I was just so off it. Oh, it's so bleak.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>It's so bleak when you are down the barrel of

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a dinner bathom bed routine. It's all on the toddler

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>as to whether or not this goes well exactly. And

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they're psychotic, and so it's literally it's not even fifty

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to fifty, I reckon, it's eighty twenty to whether there's

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>no final reason, Like no, you know, you you could think, oh, well,

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>if they did nap during the day, then maybe they'll

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>be nicer at nighttime.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>No, sometimes he doesn't nap, and he's still an angel.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he has a long as snap and he's an

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>absolute monster. Still. Yeah, And I really struggle not to

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>lose my temper so much. I lose my temper, like

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm so not proud of it, but like, oh my goodness,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just so to try to not just with a

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>awful little monster.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It's honestly so hard. I'm the same like cal I

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>just get really like shouting. I'm like, don't do that.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>All of the good parenting stuff goes out the and

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just there being like bribing it. And they lead

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>up to her birthday. I canceled her party maybe one

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty times. You know, like you're not having

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a party. That's it. That is not good parenting. But

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they are so young, that's all they understand.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>My thing is, though, is that, like I say this

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to Luke all the time, I'm like, you need to

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>give him a punishment that makes sense, and you need

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>to follow through with it. However, I still don't actually

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 2>know if that works because the few times that I

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>have followed through with Lenny certainly didn't make his behavior

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>any better the next day.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Still no, and I think, like, I can't cancel a

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>party that was never going to happen, you know.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh no, I follow her sometimes I'm pretty strict.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't, but do you know what I have

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>done is that we do put her in her bedroom.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And I know that this is a lot of people

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>are like, you can't do this, but I think it's

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>different to time out where they're like sitting and looking

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>at an empty wall. I say, you've got to go

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and sit in your room. You can play with whatever's

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>in there. But that's how I basically break the cycle

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of you're not listening to me, you're having a tantrum.

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>It's reached like a ten and there's nothing else for

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>me to do, and I myself need a break. So

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>she'll send her room she wants. She just scream in

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>there though, Yeah she screams, but then she'll pick up

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a book, start reading, coloring in and then I'm like, okay,

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>have you come down now?

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Are you ready to come back out?

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes? All right?

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Can we get Oh that sounds good.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Then it's working.

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is working, but it feels wrong. Let me

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you. It feels wrong being like you've got to

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>go to your bedroom. I think it's the smartest way

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to do it, to put a little bit of space

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>between you both and just to stop the cycle of

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>whatever the fuck is going on in their head.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I would do that, but Lenny literally will stand

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>at the door, throwing himself against it and screaming no.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 2>He's an intense little kid.

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>He's well, yeah, I mean the screams aren't great, are they.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not good. How did you feel about returning three,

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>because remember I made an entire episode learning turning through it. Yeah,

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I had so many feelings.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm a little bit different to you, Like

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I like celebrating those things. I think I like creating

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>those core memories. For me. It was really exciting this birthday,

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>just because it's the first one they're really going to remember.

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think they really remember two, but three.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I want a ballerina party. I want a

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>blue ey cake, And it was all she talked about

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>for months, Like the month leading up to her party.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>It was like every day she would have a tandrum

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>because she thought she was going to her party, but no,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>she was going to date.

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Because the concept of time is two minutes, four minutes.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, So next time, I'm probably not going to

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>tell her until a week out. But it was awesome.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I was so excited for her to have her birthday

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and for her to like to teach her you know

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that she's this many she's three, because we learned for weeks.

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're two and holding up two fingers

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you're going to be three soon. So we

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>were like learning that, which was really fun, and then

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the actual party, Like I was really proud of how

0:36:58.400 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the party turned.

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Out so good. Yeah, Kelly came, I did. Sorry. I came,

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 2>and I dressed for the occasion.

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>She came and she slaid. She came and she slaid

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>in a full too. Two get up.

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Can I just tell you, I never look up

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>somewhere before I go. Yeah, so I thought it was

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>like a sports hall or something that you'd hire it.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, so I didn't think about like other patrons,

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you'd actually been there and I rock up and it's

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 2>like a pub. Yeah. Yeah, it's like our little lots there.

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>And I was dressed like a ballet teacher.

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It's true. But you were also like twinning with Charlie

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>who had a full leotard, Radley.

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Who was best dressed. He was he was better than

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Rue even with her teeny tiny little bottom and cowboy boots.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>This is the difference between went men and woman. I'm

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.439
<v Speaker 1>like having a bit of a breakdown, being like, oh babe,

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just so overwhelmed with this party planning, Like do

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you have any ideas basically like fishing to be like

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.959
<v Speaker 1>you're not even helping kind of thing. And he's like, yeah, yeah,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I've got to sort out my tutu.

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do maybe like a dance with her.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Babe, I'm talking about logistics, not

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>about your outfit. I don't fit any of my clothes, Like,

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to hear about your tutu that

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna buy to wear her party.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it was the sleigh Dad move though it.

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Was, And you know what, I honestly think I've got

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.439
<v Speaker 1>the formula to having a kid's birthday party which isn't

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming and stressful. And it all lies and spending a

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>bit of cash on a children the entertainer, because honestly,

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it takes the sting out of it for sixty minutes

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:35.959
<v Speaker 1>or however long you want the entertainer to stay based

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>on what your budget is, they are centering your party.

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Basically the kids will all flock to them, and it

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>means that you, as an adult hosting a party, are

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of move around talk to people for

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>five minutes, say thanks for coming, catch up with them,

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>whereas if you don't have a cholsres an entertainer. They're

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 1>all kind of like running around in different directions and

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it's really stressful and you feel like you can't relax.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 1>But I felt like I could relax at that part.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 2>It's good. I looked like the children's entertainer, Well, she

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>can just tire me. I'll just do it for you

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>for free. Yeah.

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Well it's three hundred dollars for sixty minutes. It's not

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 1>a bad gig. When she was leaving, I was like, oh,

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.399
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming, Like, do you need

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>help getting to your car? And the whole time she

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:19.720
<v Speaker 1>was talking to the kids, she had an American accent.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>When she answered me, she was Australian again, and I

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, where's your accent from? And she's like,

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>oh no, So we actually talk in an American accent

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>because the kids listen to us more. It makes them

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to what we're saying if we're talking in

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>an American accent. And I was like, what, Yeah, because

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I watched television, maybe if I call ruin an American accent,

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>she'll actually listen to me.

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what, I will try it to Lenny

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>brought back, Lenny, get ready for all out of time?

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Come on, can we tell that she is? What Lenny did?

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>It'striddle's birthday body? Yeah?

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh god. I felt bad. But he had a good time.

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Apparently told me he.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Had a good time, and I was like, are you sure? Yeah,

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>he from the moment he walked in, he sat and

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>glared and hid.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you understand now why I don't like children's birthday parties?

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, well, because you don't really get to have

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>time to enjoy the party either, like you're yeah, you're

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>sitting with him. He's just so shy and shy things.

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And I get it because whenever I go someone with real,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh great, it's gonna be like half an

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>hour forty five minutes before she let's go with me

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and then enjoys what we're doing. But that didn't finish

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>fill in It.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Was no, that did not. The only time he was

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>happy was when we were on the football field kicking

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 2>a ball, just us. Yeah, like he actually And then

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>we went onto the play equipment, but no other children

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 2>from the birthday party with hair and he goes, mummy.

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I say hello to like one random boy who then

0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>asked me why Lenny was wearing a dress.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because it was a ballerina party, so all

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of the kids were wearing two does.

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's so cu really cute. Well, even if it

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a ballerina party, he can wear whatever the fuck

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 2>he wants exactly. And the thing that breaks my heart

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>is that he was so excited, like he just gets

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 2>so overwhelmed, and you know, but he kept being like, oh,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>where Strudle And I'm like, oh, Darling, she's busy actually

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 2>having fun. She doesn't want to come and sit in

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>a corner with you, like I.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Know, but that's just, you know what, He's better in

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a one on one scenario, and that's okay.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Like like if he's really comfortable and not too many adults.

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were a lot of Look, there was I

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know how, but I somehow, with a newborn, ended

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>up planning a party for sixty people, twenty kids and

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>forty adults. I was like, very chill about the party,

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I realized how many people coming and I

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, fuck, but it was fine.

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>It was at a pub, so it was fine. Like

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>it was fine.

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.959
<v Speaker 1>And again, the children's entertaining was great. Outsourcing your cake.

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Lucy and her boyfriend.

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Job they al it. I mean, sorry, Lucy, but you

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't really do anything John John, Oh it was so good.

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Was it gluten free? Did you get to eat any Yeah?

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was gluten free dairy free.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>You're joking. It was that good and gluten and dairy free. Yeah. Yeah.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>She makes it every year the same. It's just packet

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>mix actually that they get this awesome dairy gluten and

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>dairy free one.

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 2>It was so yummy. Lenny did enjoy his piece of cake.

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 2>And he really liked the goodie bag. Oh yes, the

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 2>slimy rag.

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I slayed the goodie bags. Can I just say, I've

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>been going to a few parties and like the goodie bags.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 1>All the parents are like, can we not do goody

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>bags anymore? Because they're just full of lollies, because that's

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>what they're meant to be. But I was like, all right,

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>how do I like make this different? So I went

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>onto Amazon and I got these mini coloring in books,

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>packs of stickers, I got some slime. I got some Plato,

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>like not real Plato, like fake Plato that's cheap, all

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of Amazon and it was so good.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 2>And the cars there were some with cars because Lenny

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 2>got on with cars, which he was thrilled about.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>And then I put a little nostalgia purposes, like a

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>little roll up in there. For the sweet things, I thought,

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like fun. We had them when we

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>were kids.

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's nice to have one sweet thing.

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. Yeah, But honestly, I was so

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>proud of that birthday party.

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>It's late.

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I have never enjoyed hosting as much as I did

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>for that bay and I really liked it, considering how

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like that was also the day after, or the weekend

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>after I had my breakdown in Sheridan, So yeah, there

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you go about.

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Did she clean up? I was really jealous of how

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 2>many beautifully riped gifts she had because I love presents.

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Literally today I have to go out and buy a

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>new storage container because she has so many gifts, which

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is so nice. She's so lucky, and all of them

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>are like so well fought, like hell, the books that

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you got her very good, she's obsessed, very cool good.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I got her an arrangement of activity books and normal

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>books about Ballerina's.

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Very cute, very cute. And she also got a few

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>dress ups. This time a couple of tea party sets,

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 1>so it's so cute. But now I'm like, okay, well,

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>currently all sitting next to me, I need to put

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>these somewhere, so I'm just gonna go and buy some

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of those, like you know.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>She had so much fun and wrapping them all.

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It took us three days to unwrap the presents, like

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>we would unwrap some every night, but because Charlie gets

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>home late from work and he wanted to see her

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>unwrap them, I'm like, yeah, Pattie gets home and then

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, we really need to kind of

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>go to bird now, so just do two. And it

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>was good.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I think as well. They get so overwhelmed with toys

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 2>and new things, so that's probably a really good way

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:26.399
<v Speaker 2>to do it.

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also I wanted her to kind of take

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>stock of what she was getting. You know, have you

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>ever seen the kids at Christmas and they just like

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>rip one open and that moves straight on too the

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>next because it's not so like and I'm like, no, no, no,

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>let's just like take stock of what we've got and

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>be thankful. I was trying to explain to her, like,

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>not everyone as lucky as you are, Like you're very

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>lucky to get these presents. But yeah, it was really nice,

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was so nice seeing everyone, I think is

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the main thing. So yeah, birthday parties, I'm still into them,

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not upset that she's three. I'm excited, like

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to barn her personality for this year.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>You know. Okay, to finish up the episode, we always

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>want to leave you with at least one good recommendation,

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>because who doesn't love a wreck. So it's the author

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Noel w ill eh Hill. I don't know, we'll link

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>her in the show notes. She writes horror books, and

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I read five when I was in Bali in February five. Wow. Yeah,

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I was reading horror books while

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like on a solo trip by myself. That

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>was probably a little bit silly. But you know, regardless,

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>if you like horror thriller. But the reason I don't

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>want to publicly recommend them on Instagram is because some

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 2>of them are a little bit ooh why did your

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>brain go there? Kind of thing?

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I always think that about horror stuff. Though, I'm like,

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a sick person to write anything like.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>True true, but I think it's more so with supernatural.

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe I just I read a lot

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 2>of thriller, but I don't read a lot of horror,

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and maybe that's very true.

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 2>It just feels weird that I enjoy reading about that

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. But there's obviously lots of other people

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>enjoy reading horror. I enjoyed watching horror as well, so.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>New genre that people just love to be scared shitless.

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Not me anyway, Key resells, you have got a bassinetch. Yeah.

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about this because I mentioned earlier

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that Suki came out and she immediately I just knew

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that she was going to be a clingy baby, that

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>she was gonna want me a lot. And I never

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>really heard much about co sleepers when I was pregnant

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>with Rue. And I think we've got a bit of

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a culture when we have our kids that they've been

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>inside of us for nine ten months, and then it's

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like we want them to sleep independently away from us, right,

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's not actually realistic. We Kelly and I have

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about the fact that we have co

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>slept safely in the safe way in which you can

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>do so.

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I also co slept very unsafely before I educated myself

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>on it because I had no one to talk to

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>about it or no one to say hey, exactly.

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And I famously wrote in a girl's chat, who's co sleft?

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And no one answered me, and I was like, I'm

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the worst mother in the world.

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm me And I was like, oh, of course we

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 2>all do. Here's some information so you can do.

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It properly exactly.

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I had heard from a girlfriend of mine about a

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>co sleeping basin at and I thought when Suki wasn't

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>vibing the snoop, I also found that my anxiety with her,

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 1>for some reason was quite high. I think it was

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>because my whole brain was consumed by a toddler that

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like maybe there was enough room for

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>me to, like, I don't know, keep my baby safe

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>or something. I just wanted to see her at all times.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I actually reached out to our friends at Aultuto,

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>who you know, at the start of the year we

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>did the sponsorship with for their lovely nursing chair that

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in now, which is just.

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.479
<v Speaker 2>You have become ash one with that chair.

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>If you see me, I'm with the chair. We are one.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And I reached out to our friends all because I

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>had heard that their close sleeping bacinet, the Cozy Breeze Plus,

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>was amazing, and I just said to them, hey, guys,

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>like in the depths of my newborn state, would you

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>be interested in me trialing this out and seeing if

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I like it or not. They were really lovely and

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>they sent it to me. And I cannot tell you

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>how good this crow sleeper has been. You can change

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it from just a normal bacinet on wheels to one

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 1>that rocks. There is an attachment on it that you

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of put underneath your mattress so that the co

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>sleeper does not move. There isn't like any way it

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>can move. And it has a little side that you

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>unzip that falls down so that you can basically your

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.800
<v Speaker 1>baby is level with you, so they can really sleep

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 1>next to you, but separately in a bacinet. It's really

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>good if you want to breastfeed sidelining.

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 2>So the side comes off. I'm having a look at

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a photo of it.

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, Yeah, the side comes off, so it's mesh yeah,

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and the side zips down and then your baby you

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 1>can just basically move your baby from your boob, you know,

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>into her back over, Yeah, roll her back over. And

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>for me, it meant that Suki, I just knew straight

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 1>away she could sense me anywhere. So putting her into

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a basinet just wasn't working. It was too far away

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was disturbing her sleep. So being able to

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just pass her into the co sleeping bacinet, which is

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>attached to the bed, was so good. And then I

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>found that during the day I could wheel that bacinet

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>into the lound room and have her next to me.

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Like That's how I was able to work in the

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>early days, or even just like watch TV without having

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to hold her. The bacinet was really handy for that.

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's a little bit larger than your average like bassinet,

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>which is good, so you get a bit more use

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.720
<v Speaker 1>out of it. And it's chic. It's a lovely color

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that looks good. It looked good in the room. But

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't recommend it enough. It's just an option to

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>have that maybe you haven't thought of, because for some

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>reason people don't want to speak about co sleeping in

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>ways that they have been able to do that, and

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's the most genius way to be

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>able to co sleep with your baby, have them next

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to you, have them in sight. It was really good

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>for my anxiety with her. And yeah, we'll put a

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>link in the show notes.

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 2>And with that we will love you and leave you.

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<v Speaker 2>She is. We'll be back next week with a truly

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.879
<v Speaker 2>great rant from key Oh where she shares exactly how

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 2>she's found life lately navigating a toddler and newborn, so

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 2>she will really go into the fresh hell and all

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 2>of the feelings that poor Strudle has had. And I

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>say poor Strudle, but I should say poor Key Yeah, us.

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