1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,714 --> 00:00:21,753 Speaker 2: From MoMA Mia, Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 3 00:00:21,794 --> 00:00:25,273 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick, and and here's something I 4 00:00:25,314 --> 00:00:28,394 Speaker 2: never thought i'd say. Welcome to our brutally honest review 5 00:00:28,954 --> 00:00:30,354 Speaker 2: of High School Musical. 6 00:00:30,954 --> 00:00:34,354 Speaker 1: As we. 7 00:00:37,874 --> 00:00:42,554 Speaker 2: See it's happening. We are talking about the breakout sensation 8 00:00:42,754 --> 00:00:46,153 Speaker 2: that was this Disney Channel movie that came out in 9 00:00:46,233 --> 00:00:49,434 Speaker 2: two thousand and six. Because if you can believe it, Emily, 10 00:00:49,553 --> 00:00:51,394 Speaker 2: because I can't believe that we are even this old. 11 00:00:51,754 --> 00:00:55,434 Speaker 2: High School musical came out twenty years ago this year. 12 00:00:55,634 --> 00:00:57,794 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is my first like twenty year 13 00:00:57,914 --> 00:00:58,594 Speaker 1: old something. 14 00:00:58,714 --> 00:01:00,194 Speaker 2: Well, it's huge, it's huge. 15 00:01:00,273 --> 00:01:01,794 Speaker 1: This was such a big part of my life that 16 00:01:01,834 --> 00:01:04,474 Speaker 1: I feel like it should have happened before I was born. 17 00:01:04,714 --> 00:01:07,394 Speaker 2: It's born to franchise. We had High School Musical one, 18 00:01:07,434 --> 00:01:12,434 Speaker 2: two and three, three, I somehow saw in the theater unnecessary. 19 00:01:12,514 --> 00:01:13,274 Speaker 1: Oh yes, so lucky. 20 00:01:13,314 --> 00:01:15,114 Speaker 2: And then you didn't see the theater I did. 21 00:01:15,234 --> 00:01:16,074 Speaker 1: I was sorry about it. 22 00:01:16,154 --> 00:01:18,554 Speaker 2: Oh Okay, we're getting there, guys. Because if you can't tell, 23 00:01:18,754 --> 00:01:20,194 Speaker 2: one of us is a super fan and one of 24 00:01:20,274 --> 00:01:23,234 Speaker 2: us is contructually obligated to be here. As part of 25 00:01:23,234 --> 00:01:24,994 Speaker 2: her job. And as we go through all that, you 26 00:01:25,034 --> 00:01:25,874 Speaker 2: see it's. 27 00:01:25,634 --> 00:01:28,914 Speaker 1: Really hard to be excited. But I'm so nervous right now. Well, yeah, 28 00:01:28,954 --> 00:01:29,594 Speaker 1: voice is shaking. 29 00:01:29,714 --> 00:01:32,034 Speaker 2: Before I go into my big speel, let's just address 30 00:01:32,114 --> 00:01:34,394 Speaker 2: the elephant in the room, which is the fact that 31 00:01:34,554 --> 00:01:38,154 Speaker 2: I've never seen you this nervous to do a pod record. 32 00:01:39,034 --> 00:01:41,394 Speaker 2: I'm actually so nervous now because I came in thinking 33 00:01:41,434 --> 00:01:43,434 Speaker 2: this was just another pod record, and I've got my 34 00:01:43,474 --> 00:01:46,074 Speaker 2: script and I'm all prepped, and you are shaking. You 35 00:01:46,114 --> 00:01:48,594 Speaker 2: look nervous. You didn't want to start. We've had several 36 00:01:48,634 --> 00:01:51,394 Speaker 2: false starts. I know, what is it about this movie 37 00:01:51,434 --> 00:01:52,994 Speaker 2: that has freaked you out so much? 38 00:01:53,114 --> 00:01:56,674 Speaker 1: This movie has the reason I exist as a person. 39 00:01:56,834 --> 00:01:59,874 Speaker 2: Okay, no crushure for this episode. 40 00:01:59,394 --> 00:02:02,754 Speaker 1: Of this movie. Wow, I cannot even begin to explain. 41 00:02:02,834 --> 00:02:04,154 Speaker 1: So I need to give you some context. 42 00:02:04,194 --> 00:02:04,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, please do. 43 00:02:04,994 --> 00:02:08,274 Speaker 1: The first high school musical movie came out on Disney Channel. 44 00:02:08,874 --> 00:02:10,434 Speaker 1: I was nine years old. 45 00:02:11,073 --> 00:02:15,154 Speaker 2: Wow. I never really feel like there's an age gap 46 00:02:15,194 --> 00:02:17,234 Speaker 2: between us, but I really just felt it then. 47 00:02:17,434 --> 00:02:20,914 Speaker 1: I was nine years old. My parents didn't have Fox Style, 48 00:02:21,074 --> 00:02:24,474 Speaker 1: so I never had access to Disney Channel as a kid, 49 00:02:25,074 --> 00:02:27,794 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I was hearing all of 50 00:02:27,834 --> 00:02:30,714 Speaker 1: these like chat is that recess chat is at lunch 51 00:02:30,754 --> 00:02:34,674 Speaker 1: about Troy Gabriella, and I'm like, who are these people? 52 00:02:34,994 --> 00:02:36,754 Speaker 1: And this is also the phase where I was still 53 00:02:36,794 --> 00:02:39,474 Speaker 1: really into like animation as a kid, Like I only 54 00:02:39,474 --> 00:02:41,913 Speaker 1: wanted to watch like animated stuff. So I hadn't really 55 00:02:41,954 --> 00:02:44,994 Speaker 1: watched any like real life movies unless I was watching 56 00:02:45,034 --> 00:02:47,594 Speaker 1: them with my parents. Yeah, And then I went over 57 00:02:47,674 --> 00:02:50,234 Speaker 1: to my cousin's house, who did have Disney Channel, and 58 00:02:50,274 --> 00:02:52,594 Speaker 1: she was like hey, and I was like what was like, 59 00:02:53,034 --> 00:02:55,354 Speaker 1: have you seen High School Musical? And I was like, 60 00:02:55,634 --> 00:02:57,874 Speaker 1: what the hell is that? And she was like it 61 00:02:57,994 --> 00:03:01,194 Speaker 1: is a movie about a musical. And I'm like, no way, 62 00:03:01,394 --> 00:03:03,434 Speaker 1: say no more. And I was like, oh, my mom 63 00:03:03,474 --> 00:03:05,314 Speaker 1: made me watch Grease when I was young, and I 64 00:03:05,354 --> 00:03:08,314 Speaker 1: was like, I don't like songs. I don't like real people. 65 00:03:08,634 --> 00:03:11,514 Speaker 2: It's so funny how like kids in our joint generation. 66 00:03:11,554 --> 00:03:14,354 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with that or watched Grease as kids, 67 00:03:14,514 --> 00:03:17,634 Speaker 2: and when you become adults, you're like the themes of that, we're. 68 00:03:17,434 --> 00:03:19,434 Speaker 1: Not for children, not for children at all. 69 00:03:19,514 --> 00:03:22,114 Speaker 2: The pregnancy scare, there's talk of abortion, all these other 70 00:03:22,154 --> 00:03:24,994 Speaker 2: things which again, none of those things are bad, but 71 00:03:25,034 --> 00:03:27,074 Speaker 2: it's a lot for them parents to be like, oh, 72 00:03:27,114 --> 00:03:28,954 Speaker 2: you can't watch this episode the Simpsons, but like, go 73 00:03:29,034 --> 00:03:29,874 Speaker 2: watch Grease. 74 00:03:29,954 --> 00:03:32,114 Speaker 1: And like that's literally what my childhood was. I was 75 00:03:32,114 --> 00:03:35,714 Speaker 1: like Grease Lightning, my chance, me and my dad dancing 76 00:03:35,754 --> 00:03:38,994 Speaker 1: the Grease Lightning. It's a great song. Anyway, she sat 77 00:03:39,034 --> 00:03:41,154 Speaker 1: me down, we watched High School Musical. My whole life 78 00:03:41,234 --> 00:03:45,754 Speaker 1: changed overnight. We then get the DVDs Huge, so I 79 00:03:45,794 --> 00:03:48,874 Speaker 1: could watch the DVD all the time. Then my school 80 00:03:48,914 --> 00:03:51,114 Speaker 1: got the DVD my primary school, and they would play 81 00:03:51,194 --> 00:03:54,794 Speaker 1: High School Musical during lunch break, really every single lunch 82 00:03:54,794 --> 00:03:56,874 Speaker 1: I'm not even joking for a month straight, because that's 83 00:03:56,954 --> 00:03:59,834 Speaker 1: all the kids wanted to do was to watch High 84 00:03:59,834 --> 00:04:03,754 Speaker 1: School Musical every single day. It was this huge, huge deal, 85 00:04:03,794 --> 00:04:06,394 Speaker 1: to the point that in two years after when High 86 00:04:06,434 --> 00:04:09,634 Speaker 1: School Musical two came out, this was the only thing 87 00:04:09,634 --> 00:04:10,634 Speaker 1: that I had going on in my life. 88 00:04:10,874 --> 00:04:11,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it. 89 00:04:11,634 --> 00:04:15,154 Speaker 1: My parents allowed to take me sick day so you 90 00:04:15,154 --> 00:04:16,914 Speaker 1: could watch it, so I could watch it at home. 91 00:04:16,993 --> 00:04:18,914 Speaker 2: Well, they probably thought she's gonna do nothing at school, 92 00:04:18,914 --> 00:04:20,674 Speaker 2: she's not gonna think about anything, She's just gonna so 93 00:04:20,714 --> 00:04:22,634 Speaker 2: you could just be instead of watching the afternoons, you 94 00:04:22,634 --> 00:04:23,394 Speaker 2: could watch it in the morning. 95 00:04:23,474 --> 00:04:25,193 Speaker 1: I watched it, like, yeah, in the morning because of 96 00:04:25,193 --> 00:04:27,393 Speaker 1: the American times it came out at a different time, 97 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:30,394 Speaker 1: so I watched it at home in bed, and then 98 00:04:30,433 --> 00:04:32,034 Speaker 1: I went to school the next day and everyone was like, 99 00:04:32,113 --> 00:04:33,754 Speaker 1: why did you stay at home? We were allowed to 100 00:04:33,753 --> 00:04:35,394 Speaker 1: wat High School Musical two at school, and I was like, 101 00:04:35,474 --> 00:04:39,113 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm allowing you floozies to be listening 102 00:04:39,154 --> 00:04:42,153 Speaker 1: to High School Musical with me and then annoying me 103 00:04:42,433 --> 00:04:44,834 Speaker 1: and then talking about stuff and going why did Troy 104 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:46,593 Speaker 1: get a new haircut? Which is also fair? 105 00:04:46,674 --> 00:04:47,514 Speaker 2: He got into your haircut? 106 00:04:47,714 --> 00:04:50,873 Speaker 1: So and then High School Musical three came out when 107 00:04:50,914 --> 00:04:53,913 Speaker 1: I was twelve, my last year of primary school, year six, 108 00:04:54,313 --> 00:04:56,793 Speaker 1: my mom had all my friends over for a pizza 109 00:04:56,834 --> 00:04:59,633 Speaker 1: party and then she drove us to Hoyts in Penrith 110 00:05:00,154 --> 00:05:02,513 Speaker 1: and then we sat in the back row and my 111 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:04,993 Speaker 1: mom and my aunt and then all my friends and 112 00:05:05,034 --> 00:05:08,754 Speaker 1: we watched High School musicool the last movie together. And 113 00:05:09,034 --> 00:05:12,234 Speaker 1: I think because that was a cinema release, yeah, it 114 00:05:12,313 --> 00:05:14,794 Speaker 1: didn't really have that like big of an impact on 115 00:05:14,834 --> 00:05:17,753 Speaker 1: me because I couldn't keep rewatching it. Because on Disney 116 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:20,153 Speaker 1: Channel they would just play High School Musicool Wanted two 117 00:05:20,234 --> 00:05:22,553 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. You just like memorize 118 00:05:22,553 --> 00:05:24,674 Speaker 1: this movie. Yeah, so High School Musical three for me 119 00:05:24,794 --> 00:05:26,313 Speaker 1: didn't really hit as hard. 120 00:05:26,433 --> 00:05:28,513 Speaker 2: But also is that because High School Musical three is 121 00:05:28,513 --> 00:05:30,993 Speaker 2: not a great movie. Yeah, because to me, look, I'll 122 00:05:30,993 --> 00:05:33,273 Speaker 2: give High School Musical it's due. The first one is 123 00:05:33,274 --> 00:05:35,154 Speaker 2: a ten out of ten movie. It's a great movie. 124 00:05:35,193 --> 00:05:37,393 Speaker 2: The songs are catchy. I was an adult when it 125 00:05:37,433 --> 00:05:39,313 Speaker 2: came out, like I had. I was out of high school, 126 00:05:39,753 --> 00:05:42,593 Speaker 2: and I remember with very different experiences. I remember like 127 00:05:42,633 --> 00:05:44,234 Speaker 2: I was out of high school anythink. I was like, 128 00:05:44,274 --> 00:05:45,753 Speaker 2: I wasn't in UNI yet. It was like that kind 129 00:05:45,794 --> 00:05:48,154 Speaker 2: of like period between and I remember going like with 130 00:05:48,193 --> 00:05:50,674 Speaker 2: my girlfriends from high school, just having like a movie 131 00:05:50,753 --> 00:05:52,674 Speaker 2: night together. And I was and I went to the 132 00:05:52,753 --> 00:05:56,714 Speaker 2: DVD shop to get it, and I was like, oh. 133 00:05:56,594 --> 00:05:58,873 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll Blockbuster Video easy. 134 00:05:58,953 --> 00:06:00,914 Speaker 2: It was Blockbuster because that was the one on the 135 00:06:00,993 --> 00:06:01,874 Speaker 2: corner near my head. 136 00:06:01,873 --> 00:06:04,034 Speaker 1: And you got like a cheeky fairy fluss with it. 137 00:06:04,313 --> 00:06:06,314 Speaker 2: Yeah. I got some snacks, I got some dro deck. 138 00:06:06,674 --> 00:06:09,354 Speaker 2: I was and I just got my license. So I 139 00:06:09,474 --> 00:06:11,553 Speaker 2: was like guys, I will, I will pick up the movies. 140 00:06:11,594 --> 00:06:12,474 Speaker 1: He drove to Huge. 141 00:06:12,513 --> 00:06:14,914 Speaker 2: I drove It was a huge moment. I drove to Blockbuster. 142 00:06:15,193 --> 00:06:17,633 Speaker 2: I walked in and I'm like, I saw the whole 143 00:06:17,753 --> 00:06:19,354 Speaker 2: shelf of the new release shelf. You know how the 144 00:06:19,433 --> 00:06:20,953 Speaker 2: usaid to the new release shelf and then a like 145 00:06:20,993 --> 00:06:24,274 Speaker 2: the weeklies and like the new releases like overnight Huge, 146 00:06:24,274 --> 00:06:25,433 Speaker 2: So you had to get back to the next stage. 147 00:06:25,433 --> 00:06:27,914 Speaker 2: Stakes were high, and I was the whole wall was 148 00:06:27,914 --> 00:06:32,113 Speaker 2: the high school musical DVD? Any left? That was all? 149 00:06:32,154 --> 00:06:34,794 Speaker 1: There was like fifty I remember so specifically a Blockbuster 150 00:06:34,873 --> 00:06:37,914 Speaker 1: with the new releases. They had the cover. They had two. 151 00:06:38,354 --> 00:06:39,953 Speaker 1: They had the cover on the front and the real 152 00:06:40,034 --> 00:06:41,993 Speaker 1: DVD yeah, on the one at the back, and you 153 00:06:42,034 --> 00:06:43,593 Speaker 1: had to check the ones on the back because to 154 00:06:43,633 --> 00:06:44,113 Speaker 1: make sure. 155 00:06:43,993 --> 00:06:48,073 Speaker 2: There was one. Yeah, guys, what we went through kids today. 156 00:06:48,594 --> 00:06:50,633 Speaker 2: And so I was like, oh, this is obviously the 157 00:06:50,674 --> 00:06:52,354 Speaker 2: movie of the moment. I didn't know much about it, 158 00:06:52,393 --> 00:06:54,553 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, for a girl's like movie night, 159 00:06:54,633 --> 00:06:58,553 Speaker 2: this would be so funny to bring this like stupid movie. 160 00:06:58,834 --> 00:07:00,914 Speaker 2: So I got that. I arrived at the movie night. 161 00:07:00,993 --> 00:07:03,314 Speaker 2: My friends are like, you are so lame. You bought 162 00:07:03,313 --> 00:07:05,074 Speaker 2: a kids movie. We thought you were gonna get like 163 00:07:05,073 --> 00:07:07,113 Speaker 2: a rom com, like a sexy movie or a horror 164 00:07:07,354 --> 00:07:10,114 Speaker 2: movie something, So they were angry. We watched the movie. 165 00:07:10,194 --> 00:07:13,234 Speaker 2: They all hated it, and I loved it. Wait, this 166 00:07:13,274 --> 00:07:16,554 Speaker 2: was Tigscho Musical two Ischo Musical one oh one? Okay, yeah, 167 00:07:16,554 --> 00:07:17,754 Speaker 2: the first one. We didn't know what it was. I 168 00:07:17,794 --> 00:07:19,314 Speaker 2: just grabbed it because I thought it was funny. 169 00:07:19,434 --> 00:07:20,434 Speaker 1: It is so funny. 170 00:07:20,554 --> 00:07:21,833 Speaker 2: No, no, I thought it was funny to bring it 171 00:07:21,834 --> 00:07:24,234 Speaker 2: to the sleepover. And then where they hated it, I 172 00:07:24,393 --> 00:07:26,354 Speaker 2: liked it good. I don't even remember how I saw 173 00:07:26,434 --> 00:07:28,033 Speaker 2: too probably on. 174 00:07:27,914 --> 00:07:29,273 Speaker 1: Which is my favorite. 175 00:07:29,514 --> 00:07:31,474 Speaker 2: Really okay, we'll get to that. And then I took 176 00:07:31,514 --> 00:07:35,034 Speaker 2: my little sister to the movies to see the third one, 177 00:07:35,034 --> 00:07:35,994 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is bad. 178 00:07:36,154 --> 00:07:38,954 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, okay, I'm not a big, big fan 179 00:07:38,953 --> 00:07:39,593 Speaker 1: of pastical music. 180 00:07:39,634 --> 00:07:39,794 Speaker 2: Three. 181 00:07:39,794 --> 00:07:41,034 Speaker 1: I didn't really give it a big of a chance. 182 00:07:41,074 --> 00:07:43,554 Speaker 1: But also one of my favorite songs, the Boys Are Back. 183 00:07:44,074 --> 00:07:46,114 Speaker 2: I know a lot of the high School Musical one songs. 184 00:07:46,274 --> 00:07:47,994 Speaker 2: I think I actually had the CD in my carp 185 00:07:47,994 --> 00:07:52,034 Speaker 2: on stage. I'm a Disney girl, yeah I am. At 186 00:07:52,034 --> 00:07:54,833 Speaker 2: any age. Definitely listen to the soundtrack Wow, Well, guys, 187 00:07:54,834 --> 00:07:57,274 Speaker 2: the stakes could not be higher today as we go 188 00:07:57,314 --> 00:07:58,593 Speaker 2: through this bally honest review. 189 00:07:58,674 --> 00:07:59,793 Speaker 1: He's why I'm so nervous. 190 00:08:00,234 --> 00:08:01,994 Speaker 2: It's gonna be okay, buddy, we're going to get through this. 191 00:08:02,434 --> 00:08:04,514 Speaker 2: Just picture that you're Troy Bolton about to step onto 192 00:08:04,514 --> 00:08:06,473 Speaker 2: the court or the stage, and if he did it, 193 00:08:06,514 --> 00:08:08,033 Speaker 2: so can you. That's so true? 194 00:08:09,834 --> 00:08:10,714 Speaker 1: Okay. 195 00:08:10,953 --> 00:08:13,634 Speaker 2: So, High School Musical came out in two thousand and six, 196 00:08:14,274 --> 00:08:17,754 Speaker 2: made stars of a lot of its cast, particularly Zac Efron. 197 00:08:18,274 --> 00:08:21,954 Speaker 2: And do you know where the idea for High School 198 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:27,834 Speaker 2: Musical originally came from? No, the terrorist attacks of September eleven. 199 00:08:28,474 --> 00:08:29,593 Speaker 2: You're lying, I'm not hying. 200 00:08:30,393 --> 00:08:30,953 Speaker 1: What do you think? 201 00:08:31,354 --> 00:08:34,234 Speaker 2: Loosely? Okay? Can I just say this has been completely 202 00:08:34,234 --> 00:08:37,554 Speaker 2: fat Yeah, loosely, but also but not as loose as 203 00:08:37,594 --> 00:08:42,234 Speaker 2: you think. Okay. So I'm getting this information, this particular information, 204 00:08:42,274 --> 00:08:43,994 Speaker 2: which I know has been fact checked to an inch 205 00:08:44,034 --> 00:08:46,874 Speaker 2: of its life because it's from the book Disney High 206 00:08:46,914 --> 00:08:51,274 Speaker 2: by Ashley Spencer. Ashley Spencer is an incredible journalist entertainment 207 00:08:51,274 --> 00:08:53,994 Speaker 2: pop culture writes for a few little publications like The 208 00:08:53,994 --> 00:08:55,754 Speaker 2: New York Times. But I did know her when she 209 00:08:55,834 --> 00:08:58,554 Speaker 2: was working as an entertainment journalist here in Australia. She's incredible. 210 00:08:58,874 --> 00:09:00,874 Speaker 2: She wrote this book, Disney High, which, oh my god, 211 00:09:00,914 --> 00:09:03,954 Speaker 2: you would love it. I actually can't believe you haven't 212 00:09:03,954 --> 00:09:05,914 Speaker 2: read it, but you should read it because it is 213 00:09:05,954 --> 00:09:09,074 Speaker 2: your jem. It is all these histories and these backstories 214 00:09:09,074 --> 00:09:11,074 Speaker 2: of like the Disney Channels and the kids who were 215 00:09:11,074 --> 00:09:12,394 Speaker 2: in it, the movies that came out of it, all 216 00:09:12,394 --> 00:09:14,354 Speaker 2: the TV shows. Like she talked to hundreds of people 217 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:16,874 Speaker 2: and pulled all their stories together for this book as well. 218 00:09:16,914 --> 00:09:18,514 Speaker 1: Disney actually frozen and. 219 00:09:19,074 --> 00:09:20,754 Speaker 2: That's not in the book when I read it unless 220 00:09:20,754 --> 00:09:24,634 Speaker 2: they've added the chapter. It's more than Disney Channel. Okay, okay, 221 00:09:24,714 --> 00:09:26,674 Speaker 2: it's like Disney Yeah, Disney High. So all like the 222 00:09:26,674 --> 00:09:29,794 Speaker 2: teen stars who were in that Disney High machine and 223 00:09:29,794 --> 00:09:34,114 Speaker 2: that franchise and like what happened like the yeah, yeah, yeah, 224 00:09:34,154 --> 00:09:36,394 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. So in the Disney High book, 225 00:09:36,674 --> 00:09:40,474 Speaker 2: it's been confirmed that High School Musical initially came from 226 00:09:40,554 --> 00:09:43,554 Speaker 2: a very serious Disney movie that was set around the 227 00:09:43,594 --> 00:09:47,114 Speaker 2: events of the New York terrorist attacks of nine to eleven. Okay, 228 00:09:47,514 --> 00:09:51,034 Speaker 2: the movie which starred Hayden Pannetieri because she was a 229 00:09:51,074 --> 00:09:54,834 Speaker 2: Disney Channel kid. It's a movie called Tiger Cruise and 230 00:09:54,914 --> 00:09:56,953 Speaker 2: it came out in two thousand and four. It's a 231 00:09:56,994 --> 00:09:59,914 Speaker 2: Disney Channel original movie because before High School Musical, Disney 232 00:09:59,994 --> 00:10:01,954 Speaker 2: Channel movies were a bit more low budget, Like this 233 00:10:02,074 --> 00:10:05,034 Speaker 2: was the one that really changed things. So Tiger Cruz 234 00:10:05,314 --> 00:10:07,674 Speaker 2: was about a group of families on a NA boat 235 00:10:07,994 --> 00:10:10,994 Speaker 2: and they're on the boat when the September eleven attacks 236 00:10:11,074 --> 00:10:15,354 Speaker 2: take place. Okay, yeap, And in an unlikely scene in 237 00:10:15,394 --> 00:10:17,554 Speaker 2: this movie, all the kids who are on this navy 238 00:10:17,594 --> 00:10:19,834 Speaker 2: boat they have a session where they start like jamming 239 00:10:19,874 --> 00:10:22,874 Speaker 2: and singing and like having a sing off. And an 240 00:10:22,914 --> 00:10:26,794 Speaker 2: executive producer of Disney called Bill Borden saw that scene, 241 00:10:27,154 --> 00:10:29,194 Speaker 2: saw these kids dancing to kind of get away from 242 00:10:29,234 --> 00:10:31,794 Speaker 2: the horrors of nine to eleven, and was like, we 243 00:10:31,834 --> 00:10:34,714 Speaker 2: should make our own original musical and have it be 244 00:10:34,794 --> 00:10:36,994 Speaker 2: based off this idea of like kids jamming together. And 245 00:10:36,994 --> 00:10:39,754 Speaker 2: that is how High School Musical was born. Oh so 246 00:10:39,834 --> 00:10:41,354 Speaker 2: next time you watch a movie, think about that. 247 00:10:41,634 --> 00:10:43,754 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes me very sad. 248 00:10:45,354 --> 00:10:48,034 Speaker 2: Just like I read that like three times, that thing 249 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:50,754 Speaker 2: that description. I'm like, they can't be real, be real, 250 00:10:51,194 --> 00:10:51,834 Speaker 2: it is real. 251 00:10:51,914 --> 00:10:53,754 Speaker 1: Wait, don't actual movie that's come out. 252 00:10:53,914 --> 00:10:56,953 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a movie. Sarrying Hayden Panetieri. It came out 253 00:10:56,954 --> 00:10:59,154 Speaker 2: in two thousand and four. We have to watch that, 254 00:10:59,554 --> 00:11:01,554 Speaker 2: not that long ago. And as soon as he saw 255 00:11:01,594 --> 00:11:03,514 Speaker 2: that scene, we have to find it. Does anyone have 256 00:11:03,554 --> 00:11:07,953 Speaker 2: Tiger Cruise on DVD? You can find it somewhere. It's 257 00:11:07,994 --> 00:11:10,314 Speaker 2: a lighthearted scene in the movie involving a group of 258 00:11:10,394 --> 00:11:12,234 Speaker 2: kids having an impromptu jam session. 259 00:11:12,994 --> 00:11:14,954 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that sounds like high school musical. 260 00:11:15,034 --> 00:11:17,874 Speaker 2: Yeah. And what Bill Borden took away from that scene 261 00:11:17,954 --> 00:11:19,794 Speaker 2: was not the horror of like, these kids living through 262 00:11:19,834 --> 00:11:22,354 Speaker 2: a terrorist attack, not the you know, they're worrying about 263 00:11:22,354 --> 00:11:24,554 Speaker 2: their families and stuff, was like, oh, but they're finding 264 00:11:24,634 --> 00:11:27,354 Speaker 2: joy through song, and we should make a movie about that, 265 00:11:27,394 --> 00:11:29,554 Speaker 2: which leads us to high school musical. Okay, Emily, now 266 00:11:29,594 --> 00:11:31,074 Speaker 2: your moment to shine. Do you want to tell us 267 00:11:31,114 --> 00:11:32,234 Speaker 2: the plot of high school Musical? 268 00:11:32,274 --> 00:11:34,354 Speaker 1: Oh? My god, why did you make me do this? 269 00:11:34,434 --> 00:11:36,354 Speaker 2: Well, you've watched this movie a million times. 270 00:11:36,514 --> 00:11:40,874 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I've actually written notes on this. Okay. So 271 00:11:40,914 --> 00:11:43,994 Speaker 1: it starts off on New Year's Eve. They're at a 272 00:11:44,034 --> 00:11:47,274 Speaker 1: ski lodge, which looks so fake. When I rewatched this movie, 273 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:49,474 Speaker 1: it looks the worst back not even. 274 00:11:49,314 --> 00:11:52,274 Speaker 2: A sound stage. It looks like it's just like a 275 00:11:52,314 --> 00:11:54,874 Speaker 2: corner of a animation and they've hung a sheet in 276 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:58,194 Speaker 2: the back and it's like one camera on this little 277 00:11:58,274 --> 00:11:59,354 Speaker 2: like fake set. 278 00:11:59,554 --> 00:12:03,954 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so we first get introduced to Gabriella. She's 279 00:12:04,034 --> 00:12:07,114 Speaker 1: reading a book on a couch and a mom's like, Gabrielle, 280 00:12:07,634 --> 00:12:10,234 Speaker 1: it's your last day of holidays. Go to the teen 281 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:12,354 Speaker 1: party and she's like, mom, just let me let me 282 00:12:12,394 --> 00:12:14,594 Speaker 1: read my book and she's like, no, go down there. 283 00:12:14,914 --> 00:12:17,234 Speaker 1: And then we get Troy Bolton's mum and she comes 284 00:12:17,274 --> 00:12:19,594 Speaker 1: to the court and she's like, what are you two 285 00:12:19,754 --> 00:12:22,114 Speaker 1: doing because he's playing basketball with his dad. 286 00:12:22,474 --> 00:12:22,994 Speaker 2: His dad. 287 00:12:23,034 --> 00:12:26,354 Speaker 1: Okay, I remember this so specifically when this first came out, 288 00:12:26,394 --> 00:12:29,554 Speaker 1: because I feel like when a movie just gets captulated 289 00:12:29,554 --> 00:12:31,833 Speaker 1: by a generation, you have to know every single thing 290 00:12:31,914 --> 00:12:34,994 Speaker 1: about it. Played by Bart Johnson, who I think is 291 00:12:35,034 --> 00:12:36,594 Speaker 1: married to Blake Lively. 292 00:12:36,394 --> 00:12:40,314 Speaker 2: Syester, and he was very outspoken during the initial backlash 293 00:12:40,354 --> 00:12:43,354 Speaker 2: against Blake Lively with that it ends with us the 294 00:12:43,354 --> 00:12:46,714 Speaker 2: disaster of the press tour and then the lawsuit. Bart Johnson, yeah, 295 00:12:46,754 --> 00:12:47,994 Speaker 2: I know that name. Yeah. 296 00:12:48,034 --> 00:12:51,674 Speaker 1: He was thirty five years old when he played Coach Bolton. 297 00:12:51,874 --> 00:12:52,514 Speaker 2: That's too young. 298 00:12:52,634 --> 00:12:55,114 Speaker 1: That means he had Troy when he was eighteen. 299 00:12:56,114 --> 00:12:58,234 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing about all these especially at that time, 300 00:12:58,314 --> 00:13:00,554 Speaker 2: like the parents were all like the thirty five is 301 00:13:00,594 --> 00:13:02,554 Speaker 2: actually old for a Disney channel, pairent usual. They were 302 00:13:02,554 --> 00:13:04,874 Speaker 2: about thirty and they would just put like a really 303 00:13:04,874 --> 00:13:05,954 Speaker 2: young woman in a cardigan. 304 00:13:06,154 --> 00:13:08,434 Speaker 1: That's out to me, and I love that. 305 00:13:08,514 --> 00:13:12,954 Speaker 2: Vanessa Hudgens, who plays Gabriella, is that classic old school 306 00:13:12,994 --> 00:13:15,394 Speaker 2: of like the late nineties, early two thousands of like 307 00:13:15,434 --> 00:13:17,074 Speaker 2: the geeky girl, where like she's a. 308 00:13:17,034 --> 00:13:20,794 Speaker 1: Geeky girl but with the Disney curls, but beautiful. 309 00:13:20,114 --> 00:13:24,274 Speaker 2: Like conventionally beautiful, stunning, perfect hair, perfect skin, perfect makeup, 310 00:13:24,594 --> 00:13:26,914 Speaker 2: but wearing a jacket holding a book. So you know 311 00:13:26,994 --> 00:13:27,554 Speaker 2: she's nerdy. 312 00:13:27,594 --> 00:13:30,994 Speaker 1: She's really really nerdy. Also, and I'll get to this 313 00:13:31,074 --> 00:13:34,594 Speaker 1: a bit later. After rewatching high school musical, I didn't 314 00:13:34,634 --> 00:13:37,674 Speaker 1: realize how much of a big me girl she is. 315 00:13:38,314 --> 00:13:42,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but she's so young and you were so young. 316 00:13:42,954 --> 00:13:45,914 Speaker 1: But she's full pick me. I've written some quotes, Oh. 317 00:13:47,034 --> 00:13:48,794 Speaker 2: I don't want to shatter your childhood dreams, but you're 318 00:13:48,794 --> 00:13:50,314 Speaker 2: doing it to yourself anyway. 319 00:13:50,514 --> 00:13:52,874 Speaker 1: So they're at this New Year's Eve party, the teen 320 00:13:52,954 --> 00:13:56,514 Speaker 1: party and they have to sing karaoke, which I'm like, 321 00:13:56,554 --> 00:13:59,314 Speaker 1: what teen party has karaoke? Because there's no alcohol there. 322 00:13:59,714 --> 00:14:02,514 Speaker 1: That means you're sober singing. And they get pushed onto 323 00:14:02,554 --> 00:14:04,953 Speaker 1: stage by strangers who don't even know who they are. 324 00:14:05,074 --> 00:14:06,754 Speaker 1: They're like, look at that sad girl reading. 325 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:12,754 Speaker 2: In the corner in another universe. This is Carrie. When 326 00:14:12,754 --> 00:14:15,994 Speaker 2: she comes back and like throws and kills them all because. 327 00:14:17,714 --> 00:14:20,194 Speaker 1: And then they sing the first song of the movie, 328 00:14:20,314 --> 00:14:25,354 Speaker 1: start of something New, great song, it's the of something 329 00:14:25,714 --> 00:14:26,634 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sing all the song. 330 00:14:26,674 --> 00:14:28,754 Speaker 2: Oh please do Let's just make this a two episode. 331 00:14:28,794 --> 00:14:30,474 Speaker 2: You just sing every time we stop you to sing 332 00:14:30,514 --> 00:14:30,834 Speaker 2: a song. 333 00:14:31,274 --> 00:14:33,554 Speaker 1: And then he gets really into it. She nearly falls 334 00:14:33,554 --> 00:14:35,954 Speaker 1: off the stage. It was quite dramatic, and then someone 335 00:14:35,994 --> 00:14:38,634 Speaker 1: pushes her back on and then they like kind of 336 00:14:38,754 --> 00:14:41,114 Speaker 1: I feel like their story is like love at first time. 337 00:14:41,234 --> 00:14:45,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love the first song. Okay, it's your movie, 338 00:14:45,954 --> 00:14:49,154 Speaker 2: don't and then they kind of like chat afterwards. 339 00:14:49,594 --> 00:14:51,594 Speaker 1: She was like, oh my god, I can't believe I 340 00:14:51,594 --> 00:14:53,514 Speaker 1: did that. I'm so scared. I get stage fed. I 341 00:14:53,514 --> 00:14:56,274 Speaker 1: always faint even though I only did choir. And he's like, 342 00:14:56,314 --> 00:14:58,434 Speaker 1: all i'd sing is in the shower and then they 343 00:14:58,474 --> 00:15:01,034 Speaker 1: exchange numbers and then he takes photos of her. 344 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:05,994 Speaker 2: Oh I missed up it like with her consent, what's happening? Sorry? 345 00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:08,554 Speaker 1: This is the one thing because when I was because 346 00:15:08,554 --> 00:15:10,474 Speaker 1: this was a time before iPhones, right, so they all 347 00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:13,034 Speaker 1: had different phones. Yeah, and you see them all have 348 00:15:13,114 --> 00:15:15,834 Speaker 1: different phones because when they go in their first lesson 349 00:15:15,834 --> 00:15:17,994 Speaker 1: and Miss Darbis is like no phones in my class. 350 00:15:18,114 --> 00:15:19,794 Speaker 1: They all have to put their phones in that bucket 351 00:15:19,994 --> 00:15:21,514 Speaker 1: and they're all different, Like shar Pei has like a 352 00:15:21,514 --> 00:15:23,674 Speaker 1: bit of a flip phone. Yeah, and that's the Hudgens 353 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:25,754 Speaker 1: has like a bit of a BlackBerry moment. I think 354 00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:28,594 Speaker 1: Troy has a motor roller. So what he did was 355 00:15:28,674 --> 00:15:30,954 Speaker 1: very interesting to me because I remember when I exchanged 356 00:15:31,034 --> 00:15:34,034 Speaker 1: numbers with my friends. All you did was exchange numbers, 357 00:15:34,074 --> 00:15:36,274 Speaker 1: but he wanted to assign a photo to the number. 358 00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:37,834 Speaker 1: Do you not remember this? 359 00:15:38,074 --> 00:15:39,554 Speaker 2: No, I did this and it was not a plot 360 00:15:39,594 --> 00:15:41,274 Speaker 2: point for me. But I'm loving where you got it. 361 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:43,114 Speaker 1: Takes a photo with his phone and then he takes 362 00:15:43,114 --> 00:15:45,594 Speaker 1: a selfie with her phone, and I'm like, I don't 363 00:15:45,594 --> 00:15:47,754 Speaker 1: think she can sent it to this Oh, I mean she. 364 00:15:47,754 --> 00:15:49,234 Speaker 2: Kind of liked it. And I'll have They're both just 365 00:15:49,274 --> 00:15:51,594 Speaker 2: like falling in love because they both had never sung 366 00:15:51,594 --> 00:15:54,234 Speaker 2: before and just realized they were both incredible thingers. Yeah, 367 00:15:54,274 --> 00:15:56,874 Speaker 2: and that's enough to do it. That's enough to karaoke high. 368 00:15:56,874 --> 00:15:58,114 Speaker 2: We've all been there exactly. 369 00:15:58,474 --> 00:16:00,794 Speaker 1: And then we moved to the first day back at 370 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:04,394 Speaker 1: school where at East High, Gabriella is a new student 371 00:16:04,474 --> 00:16:06,514 Speaker 1: at this school. Because of her mum's job, she has 372 00:16:06,554 --> 00:16:08,754 Speaker 1: to move around a lot. But then her mom says 373 00:16:08,794 --> 00:16:11,474 Speaker 1: that my bosses have promised that I won't have to 374 00:16:11,514 --> 00:16:14,154 Speaker 1: move until you graduate, and she was like okay. So 375 00:16:14,154 --> 00:16:17,234 Speaker 1: she's at this new school. She's super super nervous. Her 376 00:16:17,274 --> 00:16:19,994 Speaker 1: whole thing was like to get around the school curriculum 377 00:16:20,434 --> 00:16:23,874 Speaker 1: before she like joins any extracurricular club. And this is 378 00:16:23,914 --> 00:16:26,274 Speaker 1: where we get the first taste of the pickmi right, 379 00:16:26,714 --> 00:16:29,194 Speaker 1: because she says, I quote, I don't want to be 380 00:16:29,314 --> 00:16:33,354 Speaker 1: the school's freaky genius girl again. Like calm down again. 381 00:16:33,394 --> 00:16:36,314 Speaker 2: That's such a classic of this like era thing of 382 00:16:36,434 --> 00:16:38,234 Speaker 2: like I just want to be like the smart girl 383 00:16:38,274 --> 00:16:39,034 Speaker 2: who like wins. 384 00:16:39,034 --> 00:16:41,034 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to be the freaky genius 385 00:16:41,034 --> 00:16:43,914 Speaker 1: girl again. So it's happened in the past school, and 386 00:16:43,954 --> 00:16:46,034 Speaker 1: then her first science lesson, she goes to the teacher, 387 00:16:46,154 --> 00:16:49,754 Speaker 1: shouldn't that equation be sixteen over pie? Shut your damn mouse, 388 00:16:50,754 --> 00:16:54,674 Speaker 1: you liar and a cheater. You're a liar and a cheater, 389 00:16:55,154 --> 00:16:56,914 Speaker 1: and you don't deserve Troe Bolton. 390 00:16:57,634 --> 00:16:59,594 Speaker 2: Wow, It's like she couldn't even hold it in for 391 00:16:59,634 --> 00:17:02,994 Speaker 2: the lesson. Also, that teacher is probably just very underpaid 392 00:17:03,394 --> 00:17:05,914 Speaker 2: and underworked and she's having to protect all. 393 00:17:06,033 --> 00:17:07,073 Speaker 1: Also, that teacher was pregnant. 394 00:17:07,554 --> 00:17:08,994 Speaker 2: Oh oh my gosh, so she took a shot at 395 00:17:08,994 --> 00:17:11,073 Speaker 2: a pregnant woman. Sorry, she's the villain of the story. 396 00:17:11,234 --> 00:17:15,594 Speaker 1: And she also hates women because then she became friends 397 00:17:15,834 --> 00:17:19,914 Speaker 1: with Taylor McKinsey, who is played by Minnie Coleman. She 398 00:17:20,114 --> 00:17:22,474 Speaker 1: was actually twenty five years old when she played. I 399 00:17:22,514 --> 00:17:25,114 Speaker 1: would believe it, And I remember this so specifically because 400 00:17:25,114 --> 00:17:27,514 Speaker 1: when me and my cousins found this out, we were like, oh, 401 00:17:27,594 --> 00:17:31,714 Speaker 1: my god, that old hag. God, twenty five year old. 402 00:17:32,194 --> 00:17:34,954 Speaker 2: I'm glad, seventeen year old, I'm glad you weren't watching 403 00:17:34,954 --> 00:17:37,114 Speaker 2: any actual teen shows of that time. 404 00:17:37,154 --> 00:17:39,394 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, this was my first one in two. 405 00:17:39,274 --> 00:17:41,674 Speaker 2: Thousand and six, and that was like the huge tite 406 00:17:41,674 --> 00:17:44,074 Speaker 2: of teen shows like coming off like Beverly Hills and 407 00:17:44,114 --> 00:17:46,474 Speaker 2: into like the OC In One Tree Hill, there were 408 00:17:46,514 --> 00:17:49,954 Speaker 2: like twenty eight year olds in the Minx. Yeah, playing 409 00:17:49,954 --> 00:17:50,793 Speaker 2: fifteen year old. 410 00:17:50,674 --> 00:17:52,474 Speaker 1: Absolutely throwing me, and then I just remember me and 411 00:17:52,514 --> 00:17:53,834 Speaker 1: my cousins going, oh my god. 412 00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:57,033 Speaker 2: It's because they can work longer hours. Like hiring teens 413 00:17:57,074 --> 00:17:58,954 Speaker 2: to be in teen shows as hard because they can 414 00:17:58,994 --> 00:18:01,594 Speaker 2: work longer hours if you're an adult. And also teens 415 00:18:01,594 --> 00:18:04,194 Speaker 2: are often going through that. I've heard Holy executives say 416 00:18:04,194 --> 00:18:06,674 Speaker 2: this openly. They're often going through that like awkward stage, 417 00:18:06,674 --> 00:18:09,553 Speaker 2: like acne, like growing at different things, hair being wild. 418 00:18:09,834 --> 00:18:11,954 Speaker 2: So if they get people to be in the roles 419 00:18:11,994 --> 00:18:15,154 Speaker 2: and they're like late twenties, they've usually matured, have some 420 00:18:15,194 --> 00:18:18,274 Speaker 2: plastic surgery, their makeup and hairs all fixed, and they 421 00:18:18,274 --> 00:18:20,313 Speaker 2: look more like what a teenage student should look like 422 00:18:20,514 --> 00:18:21,594 Speaker 2: in Hollywood's eye. 423 00:18:22,114 --> 00:18:24,154 Speaker 1: I was just so messed up, so messed up, and 424 00:18:24,194 --> 00:18:26,874 Speaker 1: I feel so bad because she has turned out to 425 00:18:26,954 --> 00:18:29,834 Speaker 1: be like such a good person. I remember I think 426 00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:32,634 Speaker 1: it was like twenty twenty one where she came out 427 00:18:32,634 --> 00:18:35,394 Speaker 1: and said that her experience high school musical was great, 428 00:18:35,434 --> 00:18:38,554 Speaker 1: but also like her character had to always wear headbands 429 00:18:38,594 --> 00:18:41,794 Speaker 1: because the crew weren't prepared to like work with black hair. 430 00:18:42,194 --> 00:18:43,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, that must suck. 431 00:18:43,794 --> 00:18:46,553 Speaker 1: And then also she ended up joining like the UN 432 00:18:46,634 --> 00:18:48,474 Speaker 1: Youth Commission, and she like traveled around the world. I 433 00:18:48,474 --> 00:18:50,874 Speaker 1: remember her coming to Australia and she would speak at schools, 434 00:18:50,914 --> 00:18:54,434 Speaker 1: like she spoke at saut Sydney Grammar about like youth 435 00:18:54,554 --> 00:18:57,714 Speaker 1: and like the importance of like safety on internet and 436 00:18:57,754 --> 00:19:00,594 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And she just did so so much 437 00:19:00,714 --> 00:19:03,513 Speaker 1: after high school musical in terms of like politics and 438 00:19:03,514 --> 00:19:06,034 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Massive, And when I was like nine 439 00:19:06,114 --> 00:19:09,154 Speaker 1: years old, I was like, twenty five, that's really going 440 00:19:09,194 --> 00:19:12,834 Speaker 1: to stay with me? Really, Okay? So we get there. Also, 441 00:19:13,514 --> 00:19:17,794 Speaker 1: so she becomes friends with Taylor Mackenzie. They randomly hate cheerleaders. 442 00:19:18,074 --> 00:19:20,434 Speaker 1: Taylor's like, do you want to hang out with these guys? 443 00:19:20,434 --> 00:19:21,674 Speaker 1: And she was like, I guess I don't know how 444 00:19:21,674 --> 00:19:23,674 Speaker 1: to speak cheerleader unless you want to talk about nail 445 00:19:23,674 --> 00:19:26,073 Speaker 1: beds all day. They're not girls girls, That's what I'm 446 00:19:26,114 --> 00:19:26,714 Speaker 1: gonna say about that. 447 00:19:26,994 --> 00:19:28,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I agree with you. Not girls girls. 448 00:19:28,914 --> 00:19:31,154 Speaker 2: And Gabriella does she is coming across like the villain 449 00:19:31,194 --> 00:19:34,354 Speaker 2: of the story. However, that was at the time. That's 450 00:19:34,834 --> 00:19:37,874 Speaker 2: was the like the ideal high school girl in like 451 00:19:37,914 --> 00:19:41,434 Speaker 2: she's so cool, beautiful, doesn't know it, she's super smart, 452 00:19:41,874 --> 00:19:44,234 Speaker 2: like it doesn't like what the other girls likes, you know, 453 00:19:44,274 --> 00:19:45,114 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. 454 00:19:45,474 --> 00:19:49,474 Speaker 1: And then we get to the singing issue. So Troy 455 00:19:49,514 --> 00:19:52,194 Speaker 1: and Gabriella they kind of like have a little meat 456 00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:54,834 Speaker 1: cute again. Their second mu cute is like a little surprise. 457 00:19:55,394 --> 00:20:00,954 Speaker 1: They go to the auditions for the musicale Sharpey Evans 458 00:20:01,234 --> 00:20:05,274 Speaker 1: and Ryan Evans. This is their musical Yeah, played by 459 00:20:05,434 --> 00:20:09,434 Speaker 1: Ashley Tisdale and Lucas gre Bill. Also, have you heard 460 00:20:09,434 --> 00:20:12,074 Speaker 1: the recent interview Lucas has gave from the twenty. 461 00:20:12,114 --> 00:20:16,034 Speaker 2: Yeah Now, I'm as everything about their meeting because Ashley Tisdale, 462 00:20:16,394 --> 00:20:19,314 Speaker 2: can I just say, given the recent events of the 463 00:20:19,354 --> 00:20:22,394 Speaker 2: whole mom group drama and like everyone turning on her, 464 00:20:23,034 --> 00:20:25,754 Speaker 2: everything she has said about Lucas over the last two 465 00:20:25,874 --> 00:20:28,634 Speaker 2: decades has all of a sudden not aged very well. No, no, 466 00:20:28,714 --> 00:20:30,834 Speaker 2: because she was the one who initially said, she said 467 00:20:30,834 --> 00:20:33,314 Speaker 2: this over a decade ago, that we never got along 468 00:20:33,394 --> 00:20:35,674 Speaker 2: through all the movies. I think by the third movie 469 00:20:35,714 --> 00:20:38,154 Speaker 2: they started to become friends. They never got along. They 470 00:20:38,194 --> 00:20:41,394 Speaker 2: even said they hated each other and they're friendly now, 471 00:20:41,674 --> 00:20:43,513 Speaker 2: but when you hear the story of their audition, is 472 00:20:43,514 --> 00:20:45,754 Speaker 2: that what you want to say? Then that just yeah 473 00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:48,354 Speaker 2: again this point in time, I'm sure she's just like, 474 00:20:48,434 --> 00:20:50,954 Speaker 2: please stop talking. It's coming out not great. 475 00:20:51,114 --> 00:20:54,354 Speaker 1: Yeah. So Lucas did an interview where he talked about 476 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:57,274 Speaker 1: their audition and he pretty much said that Ashley Tisdale 477 00:20:57,434 --> 00:21:01,553 Speaker 1: was exactly like Sharpey. I believe that's and that they 478 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:03,594 Speaker 1: were getting ready for the audition. They were in this 479 00:21:03,754 --> 00:21:05,954 Speaker 1: room waiting and usually for these additions, all you do 480 00:21:06,074 --> 00:21:09,474 Speaker 1: is just wait for your turn, and she was like announcing, 481 00:21:09,554 --> 00:21:11,234 Speaker 1: I need to rehearse with someone. I need to rehearse 482 00:21:11,274 --> 00:21:13,634 Speaker 1: with someone. She grabbed him and then they rehearsed together 483 00:21:13,634 --> 00:21:16,394 Speaker 1: and she was giving him notes and like instructions of 484 00:21:16,434 --> 00:21:18,634 Speaker 1: what to do. But he did credit her, saying that 485 00:21:18,634 --> 00:21:21,074 Speaker 1: that was the reason why they ended up getting that 486 00:21:21,154 --> 00:21:23,594 Speaker 1: role together because they also did the audition together. 487 00:21:24,114 --> 00:21:27,394 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I've seen so much backlash, especially recently because 488 00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:30,874 Speaker 2: it is the twentieth anniversary of high school musical this year. 489 00:21:31,314 --> 00:21:33,194 Speaker 2: So he's been doing a lot of interviews off the 490 00:21:33,194 --> 00:21:35,794 Speaker 2: back of that, and he's told this story again and yeah, 491 00:21:35,874 --> 00:21:37,754 Speaker 2: saying that she was like giving him notes, telling you 492 00:21:37,834 --> 00:21:39,834 Speaker 2: where to stand, and she kept saying like, I'm on 493 00:21:39,874 --> 00:21:41,674 Speaker 2: the Sweet Life. I know what I'm talking about, which 494 00:21:41,714 --> 00:21:43,834 Speaker 2: was the show she was on, Sweet Life of Zack 495 00:21:43,874 --> 00:21:46,594 Speaker 2: and Cody. Yeah, yeah, come, you haven't watched it, No, 496 00:21:46,714 --> 00:21:49,073 Speaker 2: can't say, but I'm across. I'm across what it is. 497 00:21:49,354 --> 00:21:50,553 Speaker 2: And he was like, I don't know what the Sweet 498 00:21:50,554 --> 00:21:54,033 Speaker 2: Life is, but that doesn't make me dislike her. That 499 00:21:54,194 --> 00:21:56,314 Speaker 2: was just a girl in a cutthroat industry who had 500 00:21:56,314 --> 00:21:58,154 Speaker 2: been in a cutthroat industry for a long time and 501 00:21:58,234 --> 00:21:59,714 Speaker 2: knew what she had to do to get a role. 502 00:22:00,114 --> 00:22:02,274 Speaker 2: And yes, she was being very intense, but you kind 503 00:22:02,314 --> 00:22:02,874 Speaker 2: of have to be. 504 00:22:03,274 --> 00:22:06,474 Speaker 1: She played that role like so well, especially for kids 505 00:22:06,474 --> 00:22:09,234 Speaker 1: who were like Channel kids, because I saw in Sweet 506 00:22:09,274 --> 00:22:11,513 Speaker 1: Life of Zack and Cody and I really liked her 507 00:22:11,514 --> 00:22:14,274 Speaker 1: because she played Maddie, who was like the complete opposite 508 00:22:14,274 --> 00:22:16,714 Speaker 1: of Yeah, complete opposite. 509 00:22:16,794 --> 00:22:18,914 Speaker 2: Wow, I just assume because I only know her as 510 00:22:18,954 --> 00:22:22,194 Speaker 2: that like highly strung, intense, overachiever character. 511 00:22:22,354 --> 00:22:24,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's and she plays like Sweet Life of 512 00:22:24,394 --> 00:22:28,553 Speaker 1: Zack and Cody character so so well. She mann's the 513 00:22:29,074 --> 00:22:32,474 Speaker 1: candy store in the hotel oh, and she like doesn't 514 00:22:32,474 --> 00:22:34,794 Speaker 1: have a lot of money. She's super nerdy, Like she's 515 00:22:34,834 --> 00:22:39,194 Speaker 1: really like whit smart. So playing Sharpei, I think it was. 516 00:22:39,314 --> 00:22:40,994 Speaker 1: It would have been so hard if they wanted to 517 00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:43,514 Speaker 1: get that Disney like children's audience because it was. 518 00:22:43,474 --> 00:22:44,273 Speaker 2: Such a switch of it. 519 00:22:44,314 --> 00:22:44,754 Speaker 3: You get that. 520 00:22:45,074 --> 00:22:47,114 Speaker 1: And they even did a sweet Live Zack and Cody 521 00:22:47,154 --> 00:22:50,474 Speaker 1: episode about Sharpey Evans after High School Musical. 522 00:22:50,874 --> 00:22:51,914 Speaker 2: That is mind bending. 523 00:22:51,994 --> 00:22:54,154 Speaker 1: Well, they wanted to like recreate high School Musical and 524 00:22:54,194 --> 00:22:55,874 Speaker 1: she kept going, should I audition this shar Pei? And 525 00:22:55,914 --> 00:22:57,114 Speaker 1: everyone's like, I don't see it. 526 00:22:57,274 --> 00:23:00,194 Speaker 2: That's not because High School Musical just became this huge 527 00:23:00,314 --> 00:23:02,834 Speaker 2: juggernaut that even Disney was like, oh shit, we would 528 00:23:02,954 --> 00:23:05,634 Speaker 2: not expecting that, and it prompted them to not only 529 00:23:05,674 --> 00:23:08,073 Speaker 2: make two more movies, but put all of this money 530 00:23:08,554 --> 00:23:10,674 Speaker 2: into all these other Disney Channel movies because all of 531 00:23:10,674 --> 00:23:12,714 Speaker 2: a sudden they realized, like what a money maker it 532 00:23:12,714 --> 00:23:13,154 Speaker 2: would be. 533 00:23:13,274 --> 00:23:18,954 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy kids. So we're at the auditions, 534 00:23:19,754 --> 00:23:22,834 Speaker 1: Troy and Gabriella missed. Okay, mister hap is this a 535 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:23,513 Speaker 1: bit of a bitch? 536 00:23:23,834 --> 00:23:26,714 Speaker 2: Oh, but she's just like a quintessential quirky theater teacher. 537 00:23:27,394 --> 00:23:28,794 Speaker 2: The thing is, you've got to think she's like mister 538 00:23:28,834 --> 00:23:30,874 Speaker 2: Shue from Glee. She doesn't want to be there, wanted 539 00:23:30,914 --> 00:23:33,714 Speaker 2: to be a staff, didn't happen. Now she's teaching kids. 540 00:23:33,874 --> 00:23:37,314 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, surely you're sick of Sharpay and Ryan. 541 00:23:37,594 --> 00:23:39,354 Speaker 2: I know she loves them, Can I tell you why? 542 00:23:39,554 --> 00:23:43,794 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree that she would love them. 543 00:23:43,914 --> 00:23:46,114 Speaker 2: And I'm very much on their side throughout this whole 544 00:23:46,154 --> 00:23:49,154 Speaker 2: movie because they're the talented ones. They're the ones who 545 00:23:49,154 --> 00:23:51,954 Speaker 2: put in the work like they're the drama kids who 546 00:23:51,994 --> 00:23:53,834 Speaker 2: she's probably looking for. She has all these other kids 547 00:23:53,834 --> 00:23:56,154 Speaker 2: coming in mucking around, they get up on stage, they 548 00:23:56,154 --> 00:23:58,114 Speaker 2: can't sing, they can't move, and all she wants to 549 00:23:58,154 --> 00:24:00,394 Speaker 2: do is put on a big production. That's her entire life. 550 00:24:00,554 --> 00:24:02,754 Speaker 2: And then inlooks these two kids who can sing and 551 00:24:02,834 --> 00:24:05,474 Speaker 2: dance so well, it has to be said, and who 552 00:24:05,554 --> 00:24:08,794 Speaker 2: are actual like little stars. Yeah, no, wonder she's so 553 00:24:08,834 --> 00:24:10,914 Speaker 2: excited when they come into their audition song. She's like 554 00:24:10,954 --> 00:24:13,354 Speaker 2: someone who can sing in this whole school. I'm on 555 00:24:13,394 --> 00:24:13,874 Speaker 2: her side. 556 00:24:14,594 --> 00:24:17,594 Speaker 1: But also the other people who audition could sing quite well, 557 00:24:17,594 --> 00:24:18,553 Speaker 1: like they're not a a singer. 558 00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:20,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, not as good as as. 559 00:24:20,674 --> 00:24:22,394 Speaker 1: What about the guy who just came into cartwheels on 560 00:24:22,434 --> 00:24:27,514 Speaker 1: the Stag's But then she was like anybody else want 561 00:24:27,514 --> 00:24:30,553 Speaker 1: to audition? Anybody else? And then it was like pause, 562 00:24:30,634 --> 00:24:33,234 Speaker 1: and then she started packing up, and then Gabrielle's like, 563 00:24:33,474 --> 00:24:35,714 Speaker 1: I want to audition Miss Barbs, and then she was 564 00:24:35,754 --> 00:24:39,874 Speaker 1: like no. She's like sorry, the singles auditions are done. 565 00:24:39,874 --> 00:24:43,314 Speaker 1: And then Zack's like Zach Troy, she was pretty entertain 566 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:46,793 Speaker 1: Troy is like, ah, sing with her, and she's like, 567 00:24:47,154 --> 00:24:48,834 Speaker 1: you will not make a mockery out of me. 568 00:24:48,954 --> 00:24:51,634 Speaker 2: Boy, Well, she's he's a sports star, he can't sing, 569 00:24:51,714 --> 00:24:54,074 Speaker 2: and also fair enough, fair enough assumption. 570 00:24:54,234 --> 00:24:56,954 Speaker 1: And then she leaves and then Kelsey, she was at 571 00:24:56,954 --> 00:24:59,634 Speaker 1: the piano. She drops all the music, and then Troy 572 00:24:59,674 --> 00:25:01,354 Speaker 1: and Gabrielle are like, oh, I guess we'll help you. 573 00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:03,394 Speaker 1: So they run up to the piano and start packing away, 574 00:25:03,434 --> 00:25:05,073 Speaker 1: and they had a bit of a discussion, and then 575 00:25:05,114 --> 00:25:07,314 Speaker 1: Kelsey's like, sing my song and then they're like okay, 576 00:25:07,474 --> 00:25:09,114 Speaker 1: they sang it the way she wanted it to be, 577 00:25:09,154 --> 00:25:12,474 Speaker 1: fun like slow, even though Ryan and Charpage's version is better. 578 00:25:12,514 --> 00:25:14,514 Speaker 2: Okay, usually I had bopped to the top. Is I'm 579 00:25:14,594 --> 00:25:16,353 Speaker 2: talking about what I've been looking for what I've been 580 00:25:16,354 --> 00:25:22,754 Speaker 2: looking for? Sorry, that's song was like clicking, yeah, sorry. 581 00:25:22,874 --> 00:25:25,074 Speaker 2: They're so good in that song, The Ja Squars, the 582 00:25:25,114 --> 00:25:28,313 Speaker 2: Jazz Square. Their version is better and I'll die on 583 00:25:28,314 --> 00:25:30,674 Speaker 2: that hill all the way through. They're better performers than 584 00:25:30,674 --> 00:25:31,474 Speaker 2: Try and Gabrielle. 585 00:25:31,474 --> 00:25:33,874 Speaker 1: I will give them that. But little did they know 586 00:25:34,274 --> 00:25:36,154 Speaker 1: Miss Darbis was listening in the background. 587 00:25:36,554 --> 00:25:38,834 Speaker 2: She's always there, and she's like the fans with the operations, 588 00:25:40,394 --> 00:25:42,634 Speaker 2: she's always looking in the background her. 589 00:25:43,074 --> 00:25:47,114 Speaker 1: And then she's like, Try, Gabriella, I'll see you at callbacks. 590 00:25:47,394 --> 00:25:49,354 Speaker 1: And they were like, what did we just do? 591 00:25:50,194 --> 00:25:53,314 Speaker 2: Even then, they well, they were not ready for the 592 00:25:53,394 --> 00:25:55,194 Speaker 2: drama that they unleashed on that. 593 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:59,474 Speaker 1: School because they didn't tell their friends. Mm hmmm. She 594 00:25:59,594 --> 00:26:02,154 Speaker 1: didn't tell the mathematics. 595 00:26:01,754 --> 00:26:03,194 Speaker 2: Gigs, the gigs. 596 00:26:03,834 --> 00:26:07,754 Speaker 1: He didn't tell the boys the dad who's his coach 597 00:26:07,794 --> 00:26:08,154 Speaker 1: as well. 598 00:26:08,194 --> 00:26:10,634 Speaker 2: Cute. It's so late, it's so drama, so late, and. 599 00:26:10,594 --> 00:26:13,274 Speaker 1: His dad's like, you have to focus. Also, they're two 600 00:26:13,314 --> 00:26:16,033 Speaker 1: weeks back at school. No, they're back at school and 601 00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:18,314 Speaker 1: in two weeks they have the championship playoffs. 602 00:26:18,474 --> 00:26:20,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, the timeline's not acting up. 603 00:26:20,874 --> 00:26:22,794 Speaker 1: They didn't go to the drama gigs for this because 604 00:26:22,834 --> 00:26:26,353 Speaker 1: something's not working out anyway. Troy's dad, the thirty five 605 00:26:26,434 --> 00:26:30,594 Speaker 1: year old, he's like Bart Johnson, Bart Johnson. He's like, Troy, 606 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:33,314 Speaker 1: you need to focus on basketball. Do you know how 607 00:26:33,314 --> 00:26:35,074 Speaker 1: many college reps are going to be there? We need 608 00:26:35,114 --> 00:26:37,354 Speaker 1: to get you a scholarship. And he's saying this while 609 00:26:37,394 --> 00:26:41,474 Speaker 1: he's standing in his million dollar mansion with a basketball 610 00:26:41,514 --> 00:26:45,554 Speaker 1: court in the mansion. Yeah, true does not need a scholarship. 611 00:26:45,594 --> 00:26:47,474 Speaker 2: That boy is a rich boy all the way through 612 00:26:47,474 --> 00:26:50,793 Speaker 2: this movie and explains so much about his character. But also, college, 613 00:26:50,834 --> 00:26:54,714 Speaker 2: particularly in America, is just so so expensive and so 614 00:26:55,034 --> 00:26:56,714 Speaker 2: but it's more than that. It's not even the money. 615 00:26:56,714 --> 00:26:58,074 Speaker 2: It's getting on one of those big. 616 00:26:57,954 --> 00:26:59,434 Speaker 1: Saying that you've got a scholarship. 617 00:26:59,634 --> 00:27:03,394 Speaker 2: People especially in America, follow college basketball like they follow 618 00:27:03,874 --> 00:27:06,034 Speaker 2: I want to say the NBA. 619 00:27:06,274 --> 00:27:09,834 Speaker 1: Yes, that's you make it in college basketball. You will 620 00:27:09,874 --> 00:27:10,553 Speaker 1: be in the NBA. 621 00:27:11,274 --> 00:27:13,674 Speaker 2: No, but that's it. It gives you, It gives you 622 00:27:13,714 --> 00:27:14,874 Speaker 2: a better stepping stone. 623 00:27:14,954 --> 00:27:15,674 Speaker 1: You will get there. 624 00:27:15,954 --> 00:27:17,554 Speaker 2: Not asked like factor human NBA. 625 00:27:17,834 --> 00:27:21,194 Speaker 1: Troy Bolton will be in the NBA. That's pretty much 626 00:27:21,234 --> 00:27:21,914 Speaker 1: what his dad wanted. 627 00:27:22,154 --> 00:27:24,394 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And he gets on the right to I guess. 628 00:27:24,314 --> 00:27:25,834 Speaker 1: Make more money since they don't have enough. 629 00:27:25,874 --> 00:27:28,594 Speaker 2: Clearly, yeah, well to be a basketball star. I guess 630 00:27:28,594 --> 00:27:30,994 Speaker 2: that's all he wants again because he like miss Dabis, 631 00:27:30,994 --> 00:27:32,994 Speaker 2: he was a short king. Who's zac Efron? 632 00:27:33,114 --> 00:27:33,634 Speaker 1: Yeah? 633 00:27:33,714 --> 00:27:35,314 Speaker 2: Okay, so how is he doing this? 634 00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:35,714 Speaker 4: Well? 635 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:38,874 Speaker 2: Exactly, he should not be a basketball player. So can 636 00:27:38,914 --> 00:27:40,274 Speaker 2: we talk a little bit at the casting of zac 637 00:27:40,314 --> 00:27:42,994 Speaker 2: Efron because this boy had a bumpy road? I do 638 00:27:43,074 --> 00:27:46,273 Speaker 2: feel really sad they First of all, the character is 639 00:27:46,314 --> 00:27:47,634 Speaker 2: based on a real person. Do you know this? 640 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:48,434 Speaker 1: No? 641 00:27:48,674 --> 00:27:51,714 Speaker 2: So, Lynn Swann, who was an NFL player, was friends 642 00:27:51,714 --> 00:27:54,034 Speaker 2: with one of the screenwriters who worked on high school 643 00:27:54,074 --> 00:27:57,914 Speaker 2: musical and one day they were traveling home from like 644 00:27:57,954 --> 00:28:00,954 Speaker 2: a school basketball game. So he went on to be 645 00:28:00,994 --> 00:28:03,234 Speaker 2: like an NFL player, But he in high school, he 646 00:28:03,314 --> 00:28:05,154 Speaker 2: told his friend, who went on to be a screenwriter, 647 00:28:05,714 --> 00:28:07,954 Speaker 2: a big secret that he even though he was like 648 00:28:07,994 --> 00:28:11,434 Speaker 2: the star football player of their high school, he one 649 00:28:11,514 --> 00:28:13,354 Speaker 2: day confessed to him in a whisper that he had 650 00:28:13,394 --> 00:28:16,194 Speaker 2: always actually wanted to be a ballet dancer, but he 651 00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:22,954 Speaker 2: couldn't say it out loud, and so no, no, no, 652 00:28:22,994 --> 00:28:25,634 Speaker 2: he just was an NFL player. And his friend was like, 653 00:28:25,674 --> 00:28:32,714 Speaker 2: that would be so great to sorry. That's how high 654 00:28:32,754 --> 00:28:33,434 Speaker 2: school musical. 655 00:28:33,794 --> 00:28:35,114 Speaker 1: Remember, like, man, I told you that I were a 656 00:28:35,154 --> 00:28:36,554 Speaker 1: bunch of confidence. 657 00:28:37,594 --> 00:28:39,834 Speaker 2: I told him he was in high school. Yeah, he 658 00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:42,354 Speaker 2: told him on the bus in high school. Oh went 659 00:28:42,434 --> 00:28:44,834 Speaker 2: off to be an NFL player, but he secretly wanted 660 00:28:44,834 --> 00:28:47,154 Speaker 2: to be a ballet dancer. And so that was the 661 00:28:47,194 --> 00:28:50,394 Speaker 2: initial like how they brought higher school musical together. It 662 00:28:50,474 --> 00:28:53,474 Speaker 2: was also supposed to be just like cover songs of 663 00:28:53,514 --> 00:28:55,994 Speaker 2: eighties and nineties songs, Like they weren't supposed to have 664 00:28:56,034 --> 00:28:59,314 Speaker 2: their own songs until Disney said they weren't willing to 665 00:28:59,354 --> 00:29:01,914 Speaker 2: spend money on the songs that Disney didn't own, so 666 00:29:01,954 --> 00:29:04,394 Speaker 2: you write your own. So like those songs are just 667 00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:07,074 Speaker 2: because they didn't want to put the bill for musical right, 668 00:29:07,194 --> 00:29:09,794 Speaker 2: and we got all these bangers out of it. They 669 00:29:09,834 --> 00:29:12,234 Speaker 2: went too hard. It's like they went too hard on 670 00:29:12,274 --> 00:29:15,114 Speaker 2: the assignment. It was also supposed to be called middle 671 00:29:15,114 --> 00:29:18,474 Speaker 2: school Musical because they wanted it to be a middle 672 00:29:18,474 --> 00:29:20,874 Speaker 2: school kids like that age group, so that it would 673 00:29:20,914 --> 00:29:23,754 Speaker 2: better align to your people, to a Disney Channel audience. 674 00:29:24,474 --> 00:29:27,274 Speaker 2: And then the writers are like, we think a tad 675 00:29:27,314 --> 00:29:30,994 Speaker 2: inappropriate for the storyline that we have planned and also. 676 00:29:30,834 --> 00:29:33,714 Speaker 1: Young kids need to like look forward to something exactly. 677 00:29:33,754 --> 00:29:36,074 Speaker 2: You don't know what your kid, your own age, like kissing, 678 00:29:36,154 --> 00:29:36,994 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. 679 00:29:36,994 --> 00:29:38,394 Speaker 1: And that was like the whole thing was filmed in 680 00:29:38,394 --> 00:29:41,074 Speaker 1: an actual high school and Utah, I think it's also 681 00:29:41,194 --> 00:29:41,994 Speaker 1: called East High. 682 00:29:42,354 --> 00:29:44,194 Speaker 2: They have like zero. 683 00:29:44,914 --> 00:29:47,874 Speaker 1: Zero thought and they still till if they do tours, 684 00:29:48,434 --> 00:29:49,714 Speaker 1: like they're three pm. 685 00:29:49,874 --> 00:29:51,634 Speaker 2: Okay, how bad do you want to do that tour? 686 00:29:51,834 --> 00:29:53,314 Speaker 2: I want to do it, shad we go. I want 687 00:29:53,354 --> 00:29:53,794 Speaker 2: to actually go. 688 00:29:54,514 --> 00:29:55,954 Speaker 1: We can get sponsored by the company. 689 00:29:56,074 --> 00:29:59,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, surely Disney will send us there for the twentieth anniversary, 690 00:29:59,194 --> 00:30:01,714 Speaker 2: which is this year. Yeah, yeah, so crazy. So High 691 00:30:01,714 --> 00:30:04,154 Speaker 2: School Musical was just the placeholder title. They're like, we're 692 00:30:04,154 --> 00:30:05,714 Speaker 2: going to think it's like the MINDI Project. How the 693 00:30:05,714 --> 00:30:08,114 Speaker 2: MINDI Project was the placeholder and then like we'll just 694 00:30:08,114 --> 00:30:10,394 Speaker 2: write that on the scripts, but we'll think of something better. 695 00:30:11,234 --> 00:30:12,674 Speaker 2: And then the show came out they hadn't thought of 696 00:30:12,674 --> 00:30:14,634 Speaker 2: something better. High School Musicals a same. It got time 697 00:30:14,634 --> 00:30:16,594 Speaker 2: to release and they're like, we literally have nothing else, 698 00:30:16,714 --> 00:30:19,514 Speaker 2: So what a bad go with that? But zac Efron 699 00:30:19,554 --> 00:30:21,034 Speaker 2: coming back to him was never meant to be Troy. 700 00:30:21,114 --> 00:30:21,634 Speaker 2: You'll cross this. 701 00:30:22,234 --> 00:30:24,034 Speaker 1: I know there are a few people who are meant 702 00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:26,114 Speaker 1: to be Troy. I think they were really looking at 703 00:30:26,194 --> 00:30:26,834 Speaker 1: Jesse McCarthy. 704 00:30:27,114 --> 00:30:28,474 Speaker 2: McCartney turned it down. 705 00:30:28,554 --> 00:30:31,754 Speaker 1: Which makes sense because Jesse McCartney also started doing little 706 00:30:31,834 --> 00:30:35,154 Speaker 1: roles in Disney Channel, like he was in Hannah Montana episode, 707 00:30:35,154 --> 00:30:37,194 Speaker 1: he was in the Sweet Life of Zack and Cody episode. 708 00:30:37,474 --> 00:30:39,114 Speaker 2: Well, he said he didn't want to be typecast as 709 00:30:39,114 --> 00:30:41,394 Speaker 2: a Disney stuff. Okay, and I think now. 710 00:30:41,554 --> 00:30:46,034 Speaker 1: That typecast is nothing, so wow. 711 00:30:47,874 --> 00:30:50,234 Speaker 2: Ever crushed, Well, you should have given him talking to 712 00:30:50,354 --> 00:30:53,514 Speaker 2: He turned down a huge payday for the third movie. 713 00:30:53,554 --> 00:30:55,914 Speaker 1: I'm actually glad because, no, you don't understand how in 714 00:30:55,994 --> 00:30:58,034 Speaker 1: love I was with Jesse McCartney when I was younger. 715 00:30:58,114 --> 00:31:00,434 Speaker 1: I had big plans when I turned sixteen to go 716 00:31:00,514 --> 00:31:03,634 Speaker 1: find La and to marry him. Well, and then I 717 00:31:03,674 --> 00:31:05,314 Speaker 1: turned sixteen and it didn't happen. 718 00:31:06,474 --> 00:31:08,834 Speaker 2: You're like, what is a confused? Wow? And that was 719 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:10,314 Speaker 2: when you first realized that life was going to be 720 00:31:10,354 --> 00:31:11,194 Speaker 2: full of disappointments. 721 00:31:11,274 --> 00:31:13,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. But I was the only one 722 00:31:13,194 --> 00:31:15,394 Speaker 1: who really liked him because everyone who watch High School 723 00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:18,154 Speaker 1: Musical were obsessed with zach Efron. 724 00:31:18,234 --> 00:31:20,114 Speaker 2: He is. Look, I'll give this to zac Efron, who 725 00:31:20,154 --> 00:31:22,554 Speaker 2: I actually have such a soft spot for just I 726 00:31:22,594 --> 00:31:25,234 Speaker 2: love that boy is that he is great on screen. 727 00:31:25,314 --> 00:31:26,954 Speaker 2: He's so good in this role. So he went through 728 00:31:26,994 --> 00:31:30,154 Speaker 2: the whole audition process. There was always like other people 729 00:31:30,194 --> 00:31:33,474 Speaker 2: above him that the executives wanted to cast And the 730 00:31:33,514 --> 00:31:35,354 Speaker 2: only reason he got it is they brought him in 731 00:31:35,434 --> 00:31:38,394 Speaker 2: for a last dish audition. But they were like, it's 732 00:31:38,434 --> 00:31:41,194 Speaker 2: not him for sure. But the last audition they brought 733 00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,754 Speaker 2: him in for was a chemistry read with him and 734 00:31:43,834 --> 00:31:48,114 Speaker 2: Vanessa Hudgens, and their chemistry off the charts. Yeah, because 735 00:31:48,154 --> 00:31:48,834 Speaker 2: in the read. 736 00:31:48,714 --> 00:31:50,434 Speaker 1: And then they went into a five year relationship. 737 00:31:50,514 --> 00:31:54,114 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also after they so they saw the chemistry read 738 00:31:54,154 --> 00:31:56,074 Speaker 2: and they were just like, well, it's him because they're 739 00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:58,274 Speaker 2: so good together and we want her. But then the 740 00:31:58,314 --> 00:32:00,434 Speaker 2: executives pulled him aside, now like you can have this 741 00:32:00,554 --> 00:32:04,554 Speaker 2: role on one condition, and it's the teeth thing. No, 742 00:32:04,634 --> 00:32:06,634 Speaker 2: I'm telling you about this and you know everything they 743 00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:08,274 Speaker 2: said to the gap on your teeth. 744 00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:09,954 Speaker 1: He had such a cute gap in it. 745 00:32:09,954 --> 00:32:11,354 Speaker 2: It's gone now it's gone. 746 00:32:11,554 --> 00:32:13,314 Speaker 1: You kind of see it in High School Musical one, 747 00:32:13,354 --> 00:32:16,154 Speaker 1: but it's definitely gone by High School Musical because can 748 00:32:16,154 --> 00:32:17,034 Speaker 1: be together. 749 00:32:16,874 --> 00:32:20,034 Speaker 2: And high School Musical two, because then he became a star. 750 00:32:20,514 --> 00:32:23,074 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and he dyed his hair darker color. It 751 00:32:23,154 --> 00:32:24,834 Speaker 1: was crazy. No, But also the singing. 752 00:32:25,154 --> 00:32:27,034 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, when did you discover that that 753 00:32:27,154 --> 00:32:29,314 Speaker 2: wasn't him singing? And did that change your because I'm 754 00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:30,954 Speaker 2: assuming as a kid that you didn't pick that up. 755 00:32:31,034 --> 00:32:33,514 Speaker 1: I didn't pick it up in the movie, but then 756 00:32:33,594 --> 00:32:36,274 Speaker 1: they did. After the movie was released, they did a 757 00:32:36,314 --> 00:32:40,234 Speaker 1: high school musical like concert tour around America where like 758 00:32:40,554 --> 00:32:44,474 Speaker 1: the original cast just performed on stage and zac Efron 759 00:32:44,514 --> 00:32:47,354 Speaker 1: wasn't in that because I think he was doing hairspray 760 00:32:47,394 --> 00:32:50,754 Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, and so who replaced him was 761 00:32:50,834 --> 00:32:53,154 Speaker 1: this guy named Drew Seely, And I was like, who 762 00:32:53,154 --> 00:32:55,634 Speaker 1: the hell is this poser? And he looked very familiar 763 00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:58,074 Speaker 1: to me, and then I realized it's because he stars 764 00:32:58,114 --> 00:33:00,794 Speaker 1: in another Cinderella story alongside Selena Gomez. 765 00:33:00,874 --> 00:33:01,634 Speaker 2: Yeah. 766 00:33:01,674 --> 00:33:05,594 Speaker 1: He was the original singing voice of Troy Bolton in 767 00:33:05,674 --> 00:33:07,034 Speaker 1: High School Musical one. 768 00:33:07,674 --> 00:33:12,034 Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually feel no, oh my god, this is 769 00:33:12,074 --> 00:33:15,434 Speaker 2: such a melting point pot of like, I feel so 770 00:33:15,474 --> 00:33:17,154 Speaker 2: bad for both of them. I hope they've worked it out. 771 00:33:17,194 --> 00:33:19,914 Speaker 2: I doubt they have. Drew Silly was nearly Troy Bolton. 772 00:33:20,514 --> 00:33:23,514 Speaker 2: Imagine to the point where they kep his vocal. Yeah, yeah, 773 00:33:23,554 --> 00:33:25,034 Speaker 2: to the point where he was like he thought them 774 00:33:25,114 --> 00:33:27,954 Speaker 2: roll was his and then they're like, sorry, we replaced 775 00:33:27,954 --> 00:33:30,954 Speaker 2: you with the gap tooth kid, and now I don't worry. 776 00:33:31,754 --> 00:33:34,234 Speaker 2: But don't worry. We're using your voice, but we're not 777 00:33:34,274 --> 00:33:37,034 Speaker 2: telling anyone at first that it's you. And then they 778 00:33:37,034 --> 00:33:39,034 Speaker 2: didn't even have a premiere for High School Musical because 779 00:33:39,034 --> 00:33:40,914 Speaker 2: it was so low budget, so low stakes. It was 780 00:33:40,954 --> 00:33:43,154 Speaker 2: just a big nothing. They didn't have a premiere, and 781 00:33:43,194 --> 00:33:45,154 Speaker 2: I do believe that Zacha Fron didn't even find out 782 00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:48,314 Speaker 2: until like soon before the movie came out, and when 783 00:33:48,354 --> 00:33:49,994 Speaker 2: it came out, but like not a lot of time 784 00:33:50,234 --> 00:33:53,114 Speaker 2: realized that he was not singing. They had dubbed Drew's 785 00:33:53,194 --> 00:33:55,074 Speaker 2: voice over all his vocals because they said he wasn't 786 00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:55,674 Speaker 2: a good singer. 787 00:33:55,994 --> 00:33:57,154 Speaker 1: But he is a good singer. 788 00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:01,994 Speaker 2: He's fine. I don't know, I've never heard him Showman. No, 789 00:34:02,114 --> 00:34:05,274 Speaker 2: he's great in that, but how much of that is like, yeah, okay, no, 790 00:34:05,474 --> 00:34:07,994 Speaker 2: he's great and greatest Showman. I love him in that movie. 791 00:34:08,034 --> 00:34:10,074 Speaker 2: I also love him in Hairspray. That's one of my 792 00:34:10,114 --> 00:34:11,074 Speaker 2: favorite movie. 793 00:34:11,194 --> 00:34:13,713 Speaker 1: Yeah, he sang in that as well, and he sang 794 00:34:13,754 --> 00:34:16,034 Speaker 1: for the Fire School Musical two and High School Musical three. 795 00:34:16,114 --> 00:34:17,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, we'll give you a break, maybe 796 00:34:17,674 --> 00:34:19,194 Speaker 2: you can sing. I never had him live, so I 797 00:34:19,234 --> 00:34:20,034 Speaker 2: don't know what his voices. 798 00:34:21,114 --> 00:34:22,873 Speaker 1: High School Musical two banger of a song. 799 00:34:22,994 --> 00:34:25,754 Speaker 2: I mean, no one has ever got marching along and 800 00:34:26,634 --> 00:34:27,394 Speaker 2: something to prove. 801 00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:30,994 Speaker 1: We also are up to the part where Troy and 802 00:34:30,994 --> 00:34:33,234 Speaker 1: Gabriella's friends are like, this cannot happen. 803 00:34:33,354 --> 00:34:34,834 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly, we get. 804 00:34:34,714 --> 00:34:36,674 Speaker 1: The best song in the whole movie. 805 00:34:36,754 --> 00:34:37,874 Speaker 2: That's your favorite song. 806 00:34:38,194 --> 00:34:39,433 Speaker 1: Stick to the status quo. 807 00:34:39,834 --> 00:34:41,074 Speaker 2: I mean, so you ain't a. 808 00:34:41,114 --> 00:34:44,354 Speaker 1: Skater boy to play the cello? No, no, no, you 809 00:34:44,394 --> 00:34:46,754 Speaker 1: want this geek girl to do hip hop? No you 810 00:34:46,754 --> 00:34:49,754 Speaker 1: want Zeke as one of our star basketball players to 811 00:34:49,834 --> 00:34:52,554 Speaker 1: make cramble at He really wanted to. How dare he 812 00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:56,194 Speaker 1: put it away? I know away. I remember when I 813 00:34:56,234 --> 00:34:58,354 Speaker 1: was rewatching this movie and watching that scene, I was like, 814 00:34:58,434 --> 00:35:01,154 Speaker 1: they made so high steaks. As a kid, I was. 815 00:35:01,114 --> 00:35:03,714 Speaker 2: Like, no, no. 816 00:35:02,354 --> 00:35:09,274 Speaker 1: No, you know it was such a good song, and 817 00:35:09,314 --> 00:35:10,394 Speaker 1: I was like, how dare. 818 00:35:10,194 --> 00:35:12,314 Speaker 2: These It does make you think, yeah, don't try anything. 819 00:35:12,634 --> 00:35:14,393 Speaker 1: And that was the only time I was on sharpey side. 820 00:35:14,434 --> 00:35:17,033 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, get to what you know. When 821 00:35:17,034 --> 00:35:19,554 Speaker 2: she stands up like this kind of overlord in a 822 00:35:19,594 --> 00:35:21,994 Speaker 2: home and she doesn't hip in that. It's like a 823 00:35:22,034 --> 00:35:24,953 Speaker 2: two story school cafe, and she's standing up and she's 824 00:35:24,994 --> 00:35:28,314 Speaker 2: observing like everyone in like her land and looking around 825 00:35:28,394 --> 00:35:30,554 Speaker 2: and she's like and she's like she can sense a movement. 826 00:35:31,074 --> 00:35:32,834 Speaker 2: It's like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings all 827 00:35:32,874 --> 00:35:35,393 Speaker 2: together with like this kind of like powerful person who 828 00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:38,434 Speaker 2: can like see across space and time. It give me chills. 829 00:35:38,434 --> 00:35:41,314 Speaker 1: Actually, such a good song, such good choreography. And then 830 00:35:41,354 --> 00:35:44,114 Speaker 1: the silent drop when Gabriella walks in and she's like, 831 00:35:44,194 --> 00:35:46,794 Speaker 1: why is everyone staring at you? And she's like, not me, 832 00:35:47,234 --> 00:35:49,513 Speaker 1: you and she's like, because of the callbacks, I can't 833 00:35:49,554 --> 00:35:52,674 Speaker 1: hurt people staring at me. I really aren't. And I'm like, oh, 834 00:35:52,674 --> 00:35:55,314 Speaker 1: like you did this to yourself. Yeah, you said you 835 00:35:55,314 --> 00:35:57,114 Speaker 1: didn't want any attention, so you're not going to be 836 00:35:57,154 --> 00:35:59,714 Speaker 1: doing any extracurriculum. And then you're like, oh, audition, mister. 837 00:35:59,554 --> 00:36:01,754 Speaker 2: Habits, let me au just announce, and now you're like 838 00:36:01,874 --> 00:36:04,513 Speaker 2: reaping the re perfassions and you have no idea. 839 00:36:04,674 --> 00:36:07,234 Speaker 1: Come on, don't play with me even as an and 840 00:36:07,234 --> 00:36:09,073 Speaker 1: you're old kid. I was like, you knew what you're doing. 841 00:36:09,154 --> 00:36:10,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, she knew what she was. 842 00:36:10,274 --> 00:36:12,674 Speaker 1: You should have stuck with what you know, which is 843 00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:17,834 Speaker 1: mathematics exactly. So then we have the Troy and Gabriella 844 00:36:17,914 --> 00:36:22,513 Speaker 1: fallout huge because they kind of I don't. I mean, 845 00:36:23,034 --> 00:36:25,634 Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal. He did say it. 846 00:36:25,994 --> 00:36:28,034 Speaker 2: He did say it. He did explain to people who 847 00:36:28,034 --> 00:36:29,274 Speaker 2: because someone has gone to live in See a lot 848 00:36:29,314 --> 00:36:31,034 Speaker 2: of people haven't watched this movie in twenty years. 849 00:36:31,074 --> 00:36:34,074 Speaker 1: So Chad and the Boys also played by Corbyn Blue, 850 00:36:34,114 --> 00:36:36,274 Speaker 1: who was still one of my favorite tiktoks of this day. 851 00:36:36,394 --> 00:36:39,234 Speaker 1: He really he loves TikTok so much. TikTok, he's on 852 00:36:39,274 --> 00:36:42,434 Speaker 1: the TikTok. He's now become like quite a professional voice actor. 853 00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:46,714 Speaker 1: He is best friends with Lucas Gabriel, so they always 854 00:36:46,754 --> 00:36:49,554 Speaker 1: still do like little interviews together and stuff like that. 855 00:36:49,754 --> 00:36:51,994 Speaker 1: And he loves high school musical so much. He loves 856 00:36:52,034 --> 00:36:52,794 Speaker 1: talking about it. 857 00:36:52,754 --> 00:36:53,513 Speaker 2: It's so nice. 858 00:36:53,554 --> 00:36:56,274 Speaker 1: After that, he did a movie called jump In about 859 00:36:56,314 --> 00:36:56,794 Speaker 1: like skipping. 860 00:36:56,914 --> 00:36:59,514 Speaker 2: Can't say I've seen it missed that one. 861 00:36:59,794 --> 00:37:01,594 Speaker 1: It's so good because that's where I was also introduced 862 00:37:01,634 --> 00:37:02,354 Speaker 1: to Kiki Palmer. 863 00:37:02,594 --> 00:37:05,474 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, well, such it. That's my fault for not 864 00:37:05,514 --> 00:37:05,913 Speaker 2: seeing it. 865 00:37:05,914 --> 00:37:07,594 Speaker 1: It's such a good I forgot what it's called. 866 00:37:07,594 --> 00:37:09,754 Speaker 2: When you like jump rope, jump rope, that was called 867 00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:12,754 Speaker 2: I think that's what it's called. Jump Okay, well, the 868 00:37:12,874 --> 00:37:13,554 Speaker 2: names in the title. 869 00:37:13,834 --> 00:37:16,154 Speaker 1: He's so good. And also I think Corbyn Blue is 870 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:17,634 Speaker 1: one of the best things in the whole movie. 871 00:37:17,674 --> 00:37:19,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's hot too, so hot. He was probably 872 00:37:19,834 --> 00:37:21,513 Speaker 2: like thirty in that movie, so it's fine with movie. 873 00:37:21,514 --> 00:37:23,914 Speaker 1: And he has like his emotional support basketball at all times. 874 00:37:23,994 --> 00:37:26,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was going through stuff too. He was 875 00:37:26,274 --> 00:37:27,714 Speaker 2: a complex character exactly. 876 00:37:27,714 --> 00:37:30,674 Speaker 1: And he's like Troy is a star player. He's an 877 00:37:30,674 --> 00:37:33,194 Speaker 1: eppo baby because the coach is his dad. Yet I'm 878 00:37:33,234 --> 00:37:34,714 Speaker 1: the one who's always showing up to try. 879 00:37:34,994 --> 00:37:37,393 Speaker 2: He's the one who's dragging him in there, keeping the 880 00:37:37,434 --> 00:37:40,194 Speaker 2: track exactly, the golden child who can't commit. Yeah. 881 00:37:40,234 --> 00:37:42,874 Speaker 1: So he's like to Taylor, let's device a plan. 882 00:37:43,274 --> 00:37:43,913 Speaker 2: Just put them up. 883 00:37:43,914 --> 00:37:45,594 Speaker 1: And this is also where we get their enemies to 884 00:37:45,634 --> 00:37:46,474 Speaker 1: love a story. 885 00:37:46,354 --> 00:37:48,674 Speaker 2: Which I actually love the most. That's my favorite romance 886 00:37:48,674 --> 00:37:50,434 Speaker 2: in the High School Musical universe. 887 00:37:50,634 --> 00:37:53,194 Speaker 1: It's so good. I wish we just had their POV. 888 00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:58,714 Speaker 1: So they devise a plan where Taylor gets Gabriella in 889 00:37:58,794 --> 00:38:01,594 Speaker 1: the lab and she's showing her a video and on 890 00:38:01,634 --> 00:38:04,393 Speaker 1: the video it's a live taping, which I don't know, 891 00:38:04,554 --> 00:38:05,393 Speaker 1: it didn't really have to. 892 00:38:05,314 --> 00:38:10,714 Speaker 2: Be live, but Difendad states of it because she can't 893 00:38:10,754 --> 00:38:13,913 Speaker 2: say like, oh he's changed, ornythink it's happening in that moment, and. 894 00:38:13,834 --> 00:38:16,394 Speaker 1: It's a live taping of Troy going into the locker 895 00:38:16,474 --> 00:38:19,514 Speaker 1: room and being confronted by all of his teammates. And 896 00:38:19,554 --> 00:38:21,473 Speaker 1: it was quite a nice setup, I must say. They 897 00:38:21,514 --> 00:38:23,754 Speaker 1: had like this big table with all the awards and 898 00:38:23,794 --> 00:38:26,433 Speaker 1: they're showing all of like the past big athletes that 899 00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:29,393 Speaker 1: come from the school, including his dad. They bought the 900 00:38:29,434 --> 00:38:32,274 Speaker 1: dad in which is huge days and then Troy was 901 00:38:32,354 --> 00:38:34,714 Speaker 1: just like so confused in the moment. He's like, I 902 00:38:34,754 --> 00:38:37,914 Speaker 1: don't care about Gabriella. I care about you guys. Singing 903 00:38:37,954 --> 00:38:40,594 Speaker 1: means nothing to me. And Gabrielle's watching this on the 904 00:38:40,674 --> 00:38:43,234 Speaker 1: video and then she starts to cry and then taylorus like, 905 00:38:43,274 --> 00:38:44,834 Speaker 1: anyway you want to go get lunch and she was 906 00:38:44,914 --> 00:38:45,674 Speaker 1: like no. 907 00:38:46,234 --> 00:38:48,514 Speaker 2: We'll So she's known this girl like five days and 908 00:38:48,514 --> 00:38:51,554 Speaker 2: now she's ruined her life, and also the way they 909 00:38:51,754 --> 00:38:55,234 Speaker 2: done it with a secret video and a live stream 910 00:38:55,274 --> 00:38:58,993 Speaker 2: going to a separate room that is criminal minds level 911 00:38:59,034 --> 00:39:01,354 Speaker 2: in TRAPPD Like these are teenagers. 912 00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:03,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then at the end when they like fully 913 00:39:03,394 --> 00:39:07,634 Speaker 1: turn off the lights and while they're also competing, Yeah, yeah, 914 00:39:07,674 --> 00:39:11,074 Speaker 1: these nordes are crazy, just like I really started to 915 00:39:11,074 --> 00:39:12,913 Speaker 1: think what's gonna happen to them when they all grow up? 916 00:39:13,714 --> 00:39:16,114 Speaker 1: And then we get the fallout from Troy and Gabrielle 917 00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:18,314 Speaker 1: where he comes to her locker and he's talking to 918 00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:20,794 Speaker 1: her and she's fully blanking him and he has no idea, 919 00:39:20,874 --> 00:39:22,754 Speaker 1: and she's like, let's just not do it, let's just 920 00:39:22,754 --> 00:39:25,114 Speaker 1: not do the callback see her and he's like, I'm 921 00:39:25,154 --> 00:39:27,554 Speaker 1: so confused on what happened. And then you see him 922 00:39:27,594 --> 00:39:30,594 Speaker 1: like not being able to shoot basketballs anymore. He's getting 923 00:39:30,634 --> 00:39:34,114 Speaker 1: really really sad. And then Chad and Taylor have to 924 00:39:34,154 --> 00:39:35,674 Speaker 1: talk and be like, we've got to get them. 925 00:39:35,794 --> 00:39:38,593 Speaker 2: We've gone too far. They were too powerful. They didn't 926 00:39:38,634 --> 00:39:40,194 Speaker 2: know that what they could do exactly. 927 00:39:40,514 --> 00:39:43,634 Speaker 1: So then they find Troy up in his garden on 928 00:39:43,674 --> 00:39:47,754 Speaker 1: the rooftop, but seemingly he only knows exists. And then 929 00:39:47,834 --> 00:39:51,114 Speaker 1: Zeke's like, I made you these cookies then. 930 00:39:51,034 --> 00:39:52,714 Speaker 2: Before we tell you what we did. 931 00:39:53,274 --> 00:39:57,274 Speaker 1: Zeke is okay, confession, Yeah, number one character in the 932 00:39:57,274 --> 00:39:59,474 Speaker 1: whole High School Medical franchise, Zeke. 933 00:39:59,954 --> 00:40:02,953 Speaker 2: That's your number one. Oh, I did not pick that. 934 00:40:02,954 --> 00:40:06,994 Speaker 1: He's a basketball He has a great singing voice, amazing vocal, 935 00:40:07,634 --> 00:40:11,433 Speaker 1: great dancer, and he bakes and he plays basketball and 936 00:40:11,514 --> 00:40:12,474 Speaker 1: he's super hot. 937 00:40:12,314 --> 00:40:15,314 Speaker 2: And he goes on such an emotional journey. 938 00:40:16,674 --> 00:40:21,314 Speaker 1: I'm deserving. That girl is undeserving anyway, Troy hears all 939 00:40:21,354 --> 00:40:23,754 Speaker 1: of this. He goes to Gabriella's house, who also lives 940 00:40:23,754 --> 00:40:25,074 Speaker 1: in a mansion, even tho it was just her and 941 00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:26,314 Speaker 1: her mum, and he. 942 00:40:26,434 --> 00:40:28,954 Speaker 2: Scales the side is a bunch of rich kids just 943 00:40:28,994 --> 00:40:29,834 Speaker 2: making up problems. 944 00:40:29,994 --> 00:40:32,314 Speaker 1: My god, I love like this is like the best 945 00:40:32,394 --> 00:40:37,194 Speaker 1: like depiction of early late two thousands Disney movies, because 946 00:40:37,314 --> 00:40:39,234 Speaker 1: every single one of them lives in a mansion. 947 00:40:39,314 --> 00:40:41,834 Speaker 2: And they only have a filmed mansions in that exactly. 948 00:40:41,474 --> 00:40:43,874 Speaker 1: They live in a bedroom that's as big as our office, 949 00:40:43,914 --> 00:40:46,873 Speaker 1: and they have balconies and big windows, and they can 950 00:40:46,954 --> 00:40:48,074 Speaker 1: like talk to their friends. 951 00:40:47,834 --> 00:40:49,674 Speaker 2: And created with an inch of their lives in a 952 00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:51,794 Speaker 2: way that teen bedrooms just never just never are. 953 00:40:52,114 --> 00:40:55,354 Speaker 1: So he scales the wall, jumps onto her balcony, and 954 00:40:55,354 --> 00:40:57,194 Speaker 1: then she turns around. Oh sorry, he was on the 955 00:40:57,234 --> 00:41:01,034 Speaker 1: phone to her. Turn around, and then she turns around, 956 00:41:01,314 --> 00:41:04,434 Speaker 1: and then he sings start of Something New, the first 957 00:41:04,474 --> 00:41:06,913 Speaker 1: song that they together, and I think that was his 958 00:41:07,114 --> 00:41:07,754 Speaker 1: real voice. 959 00:41:08,154 --> 00:41:10,354 Speaker 2: Oh huge, Yeah, I feel like you can sing one 960 00:41:10,394 --> 00:41:11,514 Speaker 2: line because. 961 00:41:11,314 --> 00:41:13,033 Speaker 1: It sounded much different to the other. 962 00:41:13,314 --> 00:41:15,034 Speaker 2: I know. The whole movie is meant to be like 963 00:41:15,114 --> 00:41:17,754 Speaker 2: a kind of loose Romeo and Juliet kind of vibe. 964 00:41:17,834 --> 00:41:20,513 Speaker 2: They went so hard on the whole balcony scene. They're 965 00:41:20,514 --> 00:41:22,274 Speaker 2: like slapping the kids across the face, like, just in 966 00:41:22,274 --> 00:41:25,714 Speaker 2: case you didn't get it, this is a Shakespearean story exactly. 967 00:41:26,274 --> 00:41:28,714 Speaker 1: And then they get together again and then they rehearse 968 00:41:28,994 --> 00:41:32,794 Speaker 1: their big song, breaking Free, the song that Kelsey wrote 969 00:41:32,954 --> 00:41:36,114 Speaker 1: for them. And then the whole thing is is that 970 00:41:36,514 --> 00:41:39,953 Speaker 1: Sharpey and Ryan were like, they sound really really good. 971 00:41:40,154 --> 00:41:42,794 Speaker 1: Let's try to mess things up. So they decide to 972 00:41:42,874 --> 00:41:47,594 Speaker 1: put the callbacks for the musical on the same day 973 00:41:47,714 --> 00:41:51,074 Speaker 1: as a big championship game, as the same day as 974 00:41:51,114 --> 00:41:53,114 Speaker 1: the geeky thing that's happened. 975 00:41:53,154 --> 00:41:56,674 Speaker 2: The athletes, the mathlets, the science guys, or is that 976 00:41:57,074 --> 00:42:01,794 Speaker 2: the thing I'm probably cross referencing there with me girls, 977 00:42:01,794 --> 00:42:03,473 Speaker 2: But it's all. 978 00:42:03,394 --> 00:42:07,714 Speaker 1: The same thing. They're making some potions, yeah, okay, and 979 00:42:07,754 --> 00:42:10,714 Speaker 1: now we're in Hogwarts whatever they're doing in there, okay. 980 00:42:11,194 --> 00:42:13,354 Speaker 1: So they devise a plan all together, but they don't 981 00:42:13,394 --> 00:42:14,913 Speaker 1: let the audience in on it, so we're kind of 982 00:42:14,914 --> 00:42:17,194 Speaker 1: like catching up as they're doing it. They're all like 983 00:42:17,274 --> 00:42:21,154 Speaker 1: friends again. Zeke makes them a cake, yeah, huge, a 984 00:42:21,234 --> 00:42:24,794 Speaker 1: beautiful big cake. They draw Go Wildcats on a whiteboard, 985 00:42:25,234 --> 00:42:28,794 Speaker 1: not the same thing, and they all wear Go Drama 986 00:42:28,834 --> 00:42:31,314 Speaker 1: Club on the shirts to show miss Darbis and Sharpey 987 00:42:31,434 --> 00:42:33,274 Speaker 1: and Ryan that they loved a Drama Club and they're 988 00:42:33,314 --> 00:42:33,993 Speaker 1: all friends again. 989 00:42:34,274 --> 00:42:36,674 Speaker 2: Wow, but there's lass I've missed until you've told. 990 00:42:36,794 --> 00:42:39,394 Speaker 1: Little do they know they were hatching up a plan. 991 00:42:40,034 --> 00:42:43,274 Speaker 1: So Gabriella is with her guys doing the competition. She's 992 00:42:43,594 --> 00:42:47,954 Speaker 1: allegedly winning. Troy is on the basketball court. The score 993 00:42:48,074 --> 00:42:52,434 Speaker 1: is very very tight. Suddenly the scoreboard in the basketball 994 00:42:52,514 --> 00:42:56,354 Speaker 1: courts go and all the lights turn off, and then 995 00:42:56,394 --> 00:42:59,433 Speaker 1: you find out that it was Gabriella and Taylor on 996 00:42:59,474 --> 00:43:01,794 Speaker 1: their computer that's not really attached to any courts. 997 00:43:02,674 --> 00:43:05,154 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what do they think computers in twenty sixty 998 00:43:05,674 --> 00:43:08,634 Speaker 2: that they could huck into a system. We can't even 999 00:43:08,674 --> 00:43:10,954 Speaker 2: do that now, hack into a system to shut the 1000 00:43:10,994 --> 00:43:11,754 Speaker 2: power down. 1001 00:43:11,594 --> 00:43:13,873 Speaker 1: In the school only in the basketball court. 1002 00:43:13,994 --> 00:43:18,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, that there's no computer that can do that anyway. 1003 00:43:19,194 --> 00:43:21,674 Speaker 1: And at the same time, this like chemical reaction is 1004 00:43:21,674 --> 00:43:24,514 Speaker 1: happening in their lab that apparently smells really bad, so 1005 00:43:24,514 --> 00:43:30,393 Speaker 1: they have to evacuate that. Then Troy and Gabriella run run, run, run, run, 1006 00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:33,194 Speaker 1: run to the musical theater or like, at the same time, 1007 00:43:33,234 --> 00:43:34,714 Speaker 1: Bop to the Top is going off. 1008 00:43:34,554 --> 00:43:35,873 Speaker 2: And can we just have a moment for Bop to 1009 00:43:35,914 --> 00:43:39,154 Speaker 2: the Top because that it is an incredible musical number. 1010 00:43:39,714 --> 00:43:43,274 Speaker 2: Their execution, the singing, and the dancing show some muscle 1011 00:43:43,274 --> 00:43:45,834 Speaker 2: do the whole so good. I play that in my 1012 00:43:45,874 --> 00:43:46,634 Speaker 2: car lots still. 1013 00:43:47,154 --> 00:43:48,314 Speaker 1: It's a great song, it is. 1014 00:43:48,554 --> 00:43:49,834 Speaker 2: I just put it on when I'm like doing my 1015 00:43:49,874 --> 00:43:51,194 Speaker 2: dishes at home. It's so good. 1016 00:43:51,514 --> 00:43:53,473 Speaker 1: And yeah, so that song's happening while all of this 1017 00:43:53,554 --> 00:43:57,594 Speaker 1: is going on. Yeah, and then Miss Darbus is like anyone. 1018 00:43:57,314 --> 00:43:58,394 Speaker 2: Else for callbacks? 1019 00:43:58,394 --> 00:44:01,913 Speaker 1: Troy Gabriella, where are you Troy Gabriella, And She's like, 1020 00:44:01,914 --> 00:44:04,194 Speaker 1: I guess they're not here and then Kelsey's like, they'll 1021 00:44:04,234 --> 00:44:06,394 Speaker 1: be here, and then she was like, no, they won't, 1022 00:44:06,394 --> 00:44:08,954 Speaker 1: and then she runs away. I'm like, Kelsey, stand your ground, girl. 1023 00:44:08,914 --> 00:44:10,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the moment you gotta have, and you 1024 00:44:11,034 --> 00:44:13,393 Speaker 2: want to work in the music industry, you gotta be And. 1025 00:44:13,394 --> 00:44:15,433 Speaker 1: Then Troy and Gabriella come running in. He's in his 1026 00:44:15,514 --> 00:44:17,794 Speaker 1: basketball uniform, she's in her lab coat, which I think 1027 00:44:17,914 --> 00:44:18,994 Speaker 1: is a bit overdone. 1028 00:44:19,194 --> 00:44:21,394 Speaker 2: No, no, no, but the lab coat leads the best moment. 1029 00:44:21,554 --> 00:44:24,674 Speaker 1: The best moment. And then the Miss Darbis again was 1030 00:44:24,714 --> 00:44:27,594 Speaker 1: like too late, I called your name and then she's like, 1031 00:44:27,594 --> 00:44:29,514 Speaker 1: and you don't even have a pianist. And then Kelsey 1032 00:44:29,554 --> 00:44:31,873 Speaker 1: comes back and she's like I'm here. And then they 1033 00:44:31,914 --> 00:44:35,754 Speaker 1: sing the best song, but only because and the only 1034 00:44:35,794 --> 00:44:38,354 Speaker 1: reason Miss Dabis let them sing was because the whole 1035 00:44:38,434 --> 00:44:41,794 Speaker 1: theater started filling out with everyone who will enter the game, 1036 00:44:41,994 --> 00:44:45,674 Speaker 1: everyone who went to the lab thing. It was clouds 1037 00:44:46,114 --> 00:44:49,834 Speaker 1: and crowds of people and they start singing breaking Free. 1038 00:44:49,834 --> 00:44:52,393 Speaker 1: But wait, Gabriella gets stage. 1039 00:44:52,154 --> 00:44:54,954 Speaker 2: Fright because she can't be seeing by people, she can't. 1040 00:44:54,954 --> 00:44:56,354 Speaker 1: Remember what I'm in a church choir. 1041 00:44:56,434 --> 00:44:56,794 Speaker 2: She faint. 1042 00:44:59,394 --> 00:45:04,674 Speaker 4: Sorry, she just don't deserves Gabriella your whole school girl. Also, 1043 00:45:04,714 --> 00:45:06,274 Speaker 4: you're about your audition for a show that's going to 1044 00:45:06,314 --> 00:45:08,674 Speaker 4: play across multip nines and you need to perform every 1045 00:45:08,754 --> 00:45:11,274 Speaker 4: night like a theater actress. It's not just a one 1046 00:45:11,274 --> 00:45:12,073 Speaker 4: off song girl. 1047 00:45:12,474 --> 00:45:16,114 Speaker 1: And also you just ruined that guy's championship game and 1048 00:45:16,154 --> 00:45:17,074 Speaker 1: now you can't sing. 1049 00:45:17,554 --> 00:45:18,314 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1050 00:45:19,074 --> 00:45:22,033 Speaker 1: Anyway, he kind of comforts her and he takes the lead, 1051 00:45:22,954 --> 00:45:25,034 Speaker 1: So I technically she was meant to start song, but 1052 00:45:25,074 --> 00:45:26,634 Speaker 1: he starts the song, which is the way we know, 1053 00:45:27,274 --> 00:45:30,074 Speaker 1: and then they sing together, and then they're dancing together. 1054 00:45:30,594 --> 00:45:32,674 Speaker 1: We're breaking for your song, Ram. 1055 00:45:33,154 --> 00:45:39,074 Speaker 2: That song is so good. So it's such a classic 1056 00:45:39,274 --> 00:45:40,794 Speaker 2: Disney song, like it would have come from one of 1057 00:45:40,834 --> 00:45:43,154 Speaker 2: the animated classics. But they're kind of just in that 1058 00:45:43,234 --> 00:45:46,514 Speaker 2: high school tone and just just a town of ten bop. 1059 00:45:46,394 --> 00:45:49,393 Speaker 1: And everyone's like clapping. Miss Darbis throws her notes and 1060 00:45:49,434 --> 00:45:50,114 Speaker 1: starts clapping. 1061 00:45:50,514 --> 00:45:52,434 Speaker 2: And then when we do that where she goes flying 1062 00:45:52,594 --> 00:45:56,074 Speaker 2: and then she does the twirl and he pulls the lafe. 1063 00:45:56,154 --> 00:45:58,154 Speaker 2: She's wearing the red dress underneath. 1064 00:45:58,954 --> 00:46:01,513 Speaker 1: I don't remember that part, g serious, I don't think 1065 00:46:01,514 --> 00:46:01,954 Speaker 1: I remember. 1066 00:46:02,034 --> 00:46:05,354 Speaker 2: That's my favorite part, where she twirls away from him, 1067 00:46:05,394 --> 00:46:07,393 Speaker 2: and she pulls a lab coat off and she's got 1068 00:46:07,434 --> 00:46:09,034 Speaker 2: the red dress on. It's like a red dress right 1069 00:46:09,354 --> 00:46:11,594 Speaker 2: and underneath, and it's this whole moment like it's this 1070 00:46:11,634 --> 00:46:14,593 Speaker 2: big reveal. It's a classic like Broadway moment. Because also 1071 00:46:14,594 --> 00:46:16,554 Speaker 2: when the people who are making High School Musical went 1072 00:46:16,594 --> 00:46:17,794 Speaker 2: to make the show, they're like, we actually don't know 1073 00:46:17,794 --> 00:46:19,274 Speaker 2: how to do this. So apparently they got a book 1074 00:46:19,274 --> 00:46:22,274 Speaker 2: out I've assuming from the library about like Broadway shows, 1075 00:46:22,274 --> 00:46:24,474 Speaker 2: like the history of Broadway shows, to help them to 1076 00:46:24,514 --> 00:46:27,074 Speaker 2: help them make this movie. And that's such a classic 1077 00:46:27,154 --> 00:46:28,634 Speaker 2: musical thing to have that costume, Like. 1078 00:46:28,714 --> 00:46:31,754 Speaker 1: The triography is really important in this movie. Because the 1079 00:46:31,914 --> 00:46:36,114 Speaker 1: director Kenny Ortaga, who also directed like the Cheetah Girl movies, 1080 00:46:36,194 --> 00:46:39,074 Speaker 1: the Hannah Montana meet Miley Cyrus movie, he also did 1081 00:46:39,114 --> 00:46:42,034 Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson movie. He is like also a coo 1082 00:46:42,154 --> 00:46:45,434 Speaker 1: gofer And you can see like the behind the scenes filming, 1083 00:46:45,514 --> 00:46:47,794 Speaker 1: especially in High School Musical two, because I think only 1084 00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:49,873 Speaker 1: after this one got so big they were like, oh, 1085 00:46:49,954 --> 00:46:51,634 Speaker 1: we need to give the people what they want, YEA. 1086 00:46:51,714 --> 00:46:54,394 Speaker 1: So High School Musical two BTS has been like filmed 1087 00:46:54,634 --> 00:46:57,514 Speaker 1: like everything, and you just see him in the like 1088 00:46:58,034 --> 00:47:01,234 Speaker 1: dance studios with the performers like giving them like little 1089 00:47:01,234 --> 00:47:03,074 Speaker 1: tips and tricks, and I'm like, oh my god, what 1090 00:47:03,114 --> 00:47:05,234 Speaker 1: I would do to meet that man, the man of 1091 00:47:05,274 --> 00:47:10,434 Speaker 1: my dreams. But yeah, we get soaring flying everyone erups 1092 00:47:10,594 --> 00:47:13,274 Speaker 1: the whole theater of raps and then it immediately transitions 1093 00:47:13,314 --> 00:47:13,794 Speaker 1: to the end. 1094 00:47:14,194 --> 00:47:16,354 Speaker 2: Well, it's assumed they got the roles, right do they 1095 00:47:16,354 --> 00:47:16,674 Speaker 2: say that? 1096 00:47:16,994 --> 00:47:19,634 Speaker 1: Well, you know they got the roles because Sharpe Evans 1097 00:47:19,634 --> 00:47:22,114 Speaker 1: comes up to Gabriella and she's like, break a leg 1098 00:47:22,354 --> 00:47:24,554 Speaker 1: and she's like that means good luck, So you know 1099 00:47:24,674 --> 00:47:25,194 Speaker 1: she got it. 1100 00:47:25,314 --> 00:47:28,074 Speaker 2: Okay. Do you think they should have got the lead roles. 1101 00:47:27,954 --> 00:47:33,354 Speaker 1: Because it was higher school musical? Yes? I if I 1102 00:47:33,394 --> 00:47:35,354 Speaker 1: was watching this as an adult, absolutely not. 1103 00:47:35,514 --> 00:47:37,714 Speaker 2: Well, I get I was an adults like I need better, 1104 00:47:38,234 --> 00:47:41,554 Speaker 2: and this movie is really just a cautionary tale about 1105 00:47:41,554 --> 00:47:43,354 Speaker 2: that sometimes you can be the most talent and do 1106 00:47:43,434 --> 00:47:45,234 Speaker 2: the most work and someone with a gimmick will come 1107 00:47:45,274 --> 00:47:47,634 Speaker 2: in and just overtake you because. 1108 00:47:47,474 --> 00:47:50,234 Speaker 1: The lead sports star of your school will just say 1109 00:47:50,314 --> 00:47:50,954 Speaker 1: everything from you. 1110 00:47:51,194 --> 00:47:54,234 Speaker 2: That song's a fun, feel good song. Again, I love 1111 00:47:54,354 --> 00:47:57,754 Speaker 2: I love that song, But they look so timid and 1112 00:47:57,914 --> 00:48:00,834 Speaker 2: shy singing it until the end where they're just singing 1113 00:48:00,834 --> 00:48:04,714 Speaker 2: to each other. How are you gonna lead a musical? Well, also, 1114 00:48:04,714 --> 00:48:06,154 Speaker 2: we don't know the plot of this musical, like what 1115 00:48:06,274 --> 00:48:08,433 Speaker 2: musical or they auditioned for, And we also don't know 1116 00:48:08,714 --> 00:48:11,154 Speaker 2: like they've got to act and play characters and single 1117 00:48:11,154 --> 00:48:11,834 Speaker 2: which just makes. 1118 00:48:11,754 --> 00:48:14,074 Speaker 1: Sense for surely you'll be singing songs from the musical. 1119 00:48:14,234 --> 00:48:17,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing about this adds up. So Also, yes, Gabriella, 1120 00:48:17,754 --> 00:48:20,393 Speaker 2: with the right support and the right moment, can get 1121 00:48:20,434 --> 00:48:22,194 Speaker 2: up on stage and sing one song, how's she gonna 1122 00:48:22,194 --> 00:48:24,634 Speaker 2: get through a whole show? Meanwhile, shar Pay has come in, 1123 00:48:24,834 --> 00:48:27,554 Speaker 2: can sing, can dance on cue, can act? 1124 00:48:28,674 --> 00:48:30,634 Speaker 1: It doesn't like Kelsey though, who writes the song? 1125 00:48:30,754 --> 00:48:33,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've got some beef with Kelsey too, because 1126 00:48:33,234 --> 00:48:35,714 Speaker 2: apparently she can only write like a very specific kind 1127 00:48:35,714 --> 00:48:38,914 Speaker 2: of ballad and she's not willing to creatively work with others. 1128 00:48:39,194 --> 00:48:43,994 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So the logistics like if they can't even 1129 00:48:44,034 --> 00:48:47,034 Speaker 1: get to a callback, how are they gonna put on 1130 00:48:47,074 --> 00:48:47,594 Speaker 1: a show? 1131 00:48:48,714 --> 00:48:50,393 Speaker 2: Being in a school? Were you even in musicals in 1132 00:48:50,434 --> 00:48:50,914 Speaker 2: high school? 1133 00:48:51,634 --> 00:48:53,074 Speaker 1: That wasn't enough stage? 1134 00:48:53,114 --> 00:48:55,234 Speaker 2: Okay? Well I was in many musicals. I can I 1135 00:48:55,314 --> 00:48:59,954 Speaker 2: just tell you that just making so much draw and 1136 00:48:59,994 --> 00:49:00,994 Speaker 2: you never made it. 1137 00:49:01,034 --> 00:49:04,074 Speaker 1: No, which sucks because like I think it was the acting. 1138 00:49:04,514 --> 00:49:07,114 Speaker 1: Oh because I did singing in school and they always 1139 00:49:07,154 --> 00:49:08,714 Speaker 1: wanted to me in like the big choirs and stuff 1140 00:49:08,754 --> 00:49:11,274 Speaker 1: like that. But like when it came to actually a musical. 1141 00:49:11,234 --> 00:49:12,834 Speaker 2: We're just like no, thank you for you. 1142 00:49:13,354 --> 00:49:14,953 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, got it. 1143 00:49:15,034 --> 00:49:17,754 Speaker 2: So it's a lot of work. It's a lot your 1144 00:49:17,874 --> 00:49:21,433 Speaker 2: only like thing that you know, I was backstage. Well 1145 00:49:21,474 --> 00:49:24,194 Speaker 2: we need backstage people too for the stars on stage, 1146 00:49:24,554 --> 00:49:25,994 Speaker 2: and I yeah, I just don't think they were going 1147 00:49:26,034 --> 00:49:27,674 Speaker 2: to commit. And also I just don't think that they 1148 00:49:27,714 --> 00:49:29,953 Speaker 2: wanted to be in a musical. It's like they took 1149 00:49:29,994 --> 00:49:32,073 Speaker 2: them like the whole show to paint that bloody moon. 1150 00:49:33,674 --> 00:49:34,913 Speaker 1: All they were doing was painting the mood. 1151 00:49:34,994 --> 00:49:37,034 Speaker 2: So it's really a tragedy if you look at that way. 1152 00:49:37,034 --> 00:49:39,433 Speaker 2: It's a tragedy on behalf of sharpe Evans, which can 1153 00:49:39,474 --> 00:49:41,234 Speaker 2: I say you didn't ask, but it is my favorite. 1154 00:49:41,034 --> 00:49:43,194 Speaker 1: Character, Sharpey Evans, favorite character. 1155 00:49:43,754 --> 00:49:45,154 Speaker 2: Love her so much, even in High. 1156 00:49:44,994 --> 00:49:45,834 Speaker 1: School Musical two. 1157 00:49:45,954 --> 00:49:48,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in High High School Musical two that's when 1158 00:49:48,554 --> 00:49:49,314 Speaker 2: she has the big number. 1159 00:49:49,394 --> 00:49:50,074 Speaker 1: Yeah fabulous. 1160 00:49:50,154 --> 00:49:52,953 Speaker 2: Yeah, So she's like back on on the lawn chair. 1161 00:49:52,994 --> 00:49:55,274 Speaker 2: It's more the pink and everything. Even when she gets 1162 00:49:55,314 --> 00:49:56,634 Speaker 2: out of that car with all her stuff and like 1163 00:49:56,714 --> 00:49:59,074 Speaker 2: runs into like the holiday club thing there and she's like, 1164 00:49:59,074 --> 00:50:01,473 Speaker 2: you would not believe what happened. Yeah, we didn't get 1165 00:50:01,474 --> 00:50:03,034 Speaker 2: the leads to the musical. I'm like, yeah, you've been 1166 00:50:03,074 --> 00:50:05,873 Speaker 2: through trauma. I love her ten or ten actually two 1167 00:50:05,914 --> 00:50:09,274 Speaker 2: is down on the fence about but Evans. And then 1168 00:50:09,314 --> 00:50:12,514 Speaker 2: we have the finale, which was filmed in one shot? 1169 00:50:12,594 --> 00:50:13,674 Speaker 2: Can you believe that we're. 1170 00:50:13,554 --> 00:50:14,434 Speaker 1: All in this together? 1171 00:50:14,914 --> 00:50:16,953 Speaker 2: Even some of the movie musicals now, like the big 1172 00:50:17,034 --> 00:50:18,634 Speaker 2: ones are like in the mix of the oscars, don't 1173 00:50:18,634 --> 00:50:21,194 Speaker 2: even do that. That's so hard. They filmed it the 1174 00:50:21,274 --> 00:50:23,674 Speaker 2: whole dance in one go. They did it about sixteen times. 1175 00:50:23,714 --> 00:50:24,873 Speaker 1: You have like a live performance. 1176 00:50:24,914 --> 00:50:26,913 Speaker 2: It's a live performance and the camera guy's just moving 1177 00:50:26,914 --> 00:50:28,594 Speaker 2: around like what he caught was what he caught. 1178 00:50:28,794 --> 00:50:31,794 Speaker 1: And watching the backstage footage of them making that, it's 1179 00:50:31,874 --> 00:50:34,314 Speaker 1: so intense. It looks like they're about to go on 1180 00:50:34,354 --> 00:50:36,594 Speaker 1: stage for a concert because it has to be so 1181 00:50:36,714 --> 00:50:39,674 Speaker 1: method because it's all in one shot. So Kenny o'tager 1182 00:50:39,714 --> 00:50:41,553 Speaker 1: is there and he's like, so when you go here, 1183 00:50:41,634 --> 00:50:43,473 Speaker 1: you then have to run over there and move there, 1184 00:50:43,474 --> 00:50:44,873 Speaker 1: and then you have to move there, and then you 1185 00:50:44,914 --> 00:50:46,714 Speaker 1: have to back up over there, and then these people 1186 00:50:46,754 --> 00:50:48,194 Speaker 1: have to come to the front. And I'm like, oh 1187 00:50:48,274 --> 00:50:56,714 Speaker 1: my god, and these are kids, kids Commens twenty five 1188 00:50:56,754 --> 00:50:57,634 Speaker 1: and everyone else will seven. 1189 00:50:57,674 --> 00:51:01,314 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, these kids. Yeah, yeah, it's such a 1190 00:51:01,314 --> 00:51:01,714 Speaker 2: good moment. 1191 00:51:01,714 --> 00:51:02,794 Speaker 1: We're all in this together. 1192 00:51:03,074 --> 00:51:06,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they are. But until the next movie all 1193 00:51:06,594 --> 00:51:08,994 Speaker 2: split up. They go back to the exact same situation 1194 00:51:09,034 --> 00:51:10,634 Speaker 2: where they all hate each other and it's all back 1195 00:51:10,674 --> 00:51:13,034 Speaker 2: and forth. But that's fine. We needed a sequel. It's 1196 00:51:13,074 --> 00:51:14,634 Speaker 2: such a good way to end the movie. It just 1197 00:51:14,674 --> 00:51:17,594 Speaker 2: feels like, yeah, it is one of the best original 1198 00:51:17,874 --> 00:51:20,714 Speaker 2: movie musicals ever. It really is. 1199 00:51:20,954 --> 00:51:21,714 Speaker 1: It's so good. 1200 00:51:22,154 --> 00:51:24,433 Speaker 2: It's just yeah, the execution and the characters, like they 1201 00:51:24,474 --> 00:51:27,154 Speaker 2: all feel very layered, like there's maybe not getrial, but 1202 00:51:27,194 --> 00:51:31,873 Speaker 2: they feel lated and interesting, and I just love that 1203 00:51:31,914 --> 00:51:34,674 Speaker 2: you still love it. It's still your face, my god. 1204 00:51:34,794 --> 00:51:38,074 Speaker 1: Rewatching this to do research for this episode one is 1205 00:51:38,114 --> 00:51:40,434 Speaker 1: our Jobs, I was just like, oh my god, Like 1206 00:51:40,474 --> 00:51:43,114 Speaker 1: there were so many times where I just specifically remember 1207 00:51:43,194 --> 00:51:45,834 Speaker 1: being so young watching those scenes and like how I 1208 00:51:45,914 --> 00:51:48,234 Speaker 1: react differently now as men dull, But like there were 1209 00:51:48,274 --> 00:51:50,754 Speaker 1: so many like jokes in that movie that just went 1210 00:51:50,874 --> 00:51:52,154 Speaker 1: straight over my head as a kid. 1211 00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:54,993 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is such like a particular moment in time 1212 00:51:55,034 --> 00:51:56,914 Speaker 2: for pop culture when that movie came out, and also 1213 00:51:56,994 --> 00:51:59,674 Speaker 2: like such an ongoing thing of like wish fulfillment for 1214 00:51:59,794 --> 00:52:02,794 Speaker 2: like young girls, especially like what if I discovered I 1215 00:52:02,794 --> 00:52:04,993 Speaker 2: could sing? What if I discovered I there's a little 1216 00:52:04,994 --> 00:52:08,314 Speaker 2: of a musical, What if I play basketball? Yeah? What 1217 00:52:08,394 --> 00:52:10,114 Speaker 2: if the hottest boy in school turned out to be 1218 00:52:10,154 --> 00:52:11,954 Speaker 2: just a sweetheart who wants to sing with me? Like 1219 00:52:11,994 --> 00:52:13,714 Speaker 2: it's it's all these things that you kind of would 1220 00:52:13,794 --> 00:52:15,674 Speaker 2: daydream about if you were just like as most of 1221 00:52:15,754 --> 00:52:17,834 Speaker 2: us were, just an average high school girl feeling really 1222 00:52:17,874 --> 00:52:20,514 Speaker 2: out of place. And it's like Gabriella just goes and 1223 00:52:20,554 --> 00:52:21,954 Speaker 2: even though that's maybe why she's a bit of a 1224 00:52:21,954 --> 00:52:24,634 Speaker 2: playing character because a lot of the time the main 1225 00:52:24,674 --> 00:52:26,674 Speaker 2: girls and these types of things have to sort of 1226 00:52:26,714 --> 00:52:29,234 Speaker 2: be a bit of like an author inset in this 1227 00:52:29,474 --> 00:52:31,354 Speaker 2: or in this case, an audience inset, so you can 1228 00:52:31,394 --> 00:52:34,354 Speaker 2: put yourself in her place and like go through that. Yeah, 1229 00:52:34,674 --> 00:52:37,873 Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for that moment. I'm still waiting to 1230 00:52:37,914 --> 00:52:39,873 Speaker 2: me to find out like and I'm going to be 1231 00:52:39,914 --> 00:52:44,674 Speaker 2: the story. Yeah, I'm still waiting for that to happen. Okay. 1232 00:52:44,754 --> 00:52:48,314 Speaker 2: Well that is our brutally honest review of High School Musical. 1233 00:52:48,834 --> 00:52:52,354 Speaker 1: So stressful, like being so fast, I think I need 1234 00:52:52,354 --> 00:52:54,074 Speaker 1: to take a sick day, take. 1235 00:52:53,914 --> 00:52:55,873 Speaker 2: A sick day to borrow and in the little tab 1236 00:52:55,914 --> 00:52:58,314 Speaker 2: But you can just be like did High School Musical 1237 00:52:58,314 --> 00:53:02,314 Speaker 2: episode slash Trauba tized, Sorry, well, I'm about to make 1238 00:53:02,354 --> 00:53:04,993 Speaker 2: things worse for you. Okay, I'm so sorry because even 1239 00:53:04,994 --> 00:53:06,554 Speaker 2: though I did enjoy that, I didn't want to do 1240 00:53:06,594 --> 00:53:08,513 Speaker 2: this episode like it's going to put that out there. 1241 00:53:08,914 --> 00:53:12,674 Speaker 2: I was like, high School Musical really really, come on, 1242 00:53:12,794 --> 00:53:13,714 Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna do. 1243 00:53:13,994 --> 00:53:14,954 Speaker 1: The fact that it's. 1244 00:53:14,834 --> 00:53:18,274 Speaker 2: Like twenty years, like already we've done it, buddy, because 1245 00:53:18,274 --> 00:53:18,754 Speaker 2: it's like the. 1246 00:53:18,714 --> 00:53:21,754 Speaker 1: First thing in my life where I've like felt what 1247 00:53:21,794 --> 00:53:24,114 Speaker 1: my parents felt. I guess when Greece happened, like in 1248 00:53:24,154 --> 00:53:26,314 Speaker 1: twenty years. Oh okay, And I'm like, oh, I now 1249 00:53:26,354 --> 00:53:28,473 Speaker 1: understand what you guys meant by that. When yeah, you're 1250 00:53:28,474 --> 00:53:30,034 Speaker 1: looking back on it in twenty years, I was like, 1251 00:53:30,834 --> 00:53:31,553 Speaker 1: so much time. 1252 00:53:31,634 --> 00:53:34,834 Speaker 2: It's so much time. Famously, it's a lot of times, 1253 00:53:34,834 --> 00:53:36,234 Speaker 2: so you wait, No, I'm happy we've done it now. 1254 00:53:36,234 --> 00:53:38,314 Speaker 2: But at first I was like, really, but you really 1255 00:53:38,314 --> 00:53:40,993 Speaker 2: wanted to do it. And our producer Minisha, who's been 1256 00:53:40,994 --> 00:53:42,674 Speaker 2: in this room with us and dying in the corner 1257 00:53:42,754 --> 00:53:44,554 Speaker 2: the whole time wanting to jump in and sing and 1258 00:53:44,594 --> 00:53:47,514 Speaker 2: everything and or just sleep judging us. You really wanted 1259 00:53:47,514 --> 00:53:49,554 Speaker 2: to do this, and you're the boss, and so now 1260 00:53:49,554 --> 00:53:50,954 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you how did we do? 1261 00:53:51,314 --> 00:53:53,834 Speaker 3: I was really impressed. I had a whole list of 1262 00:53:53,874 --> 00:53:55,473 Speaker 3: facts and I was like, they're doing it. They got 1263 00:53:55,514 --> 00:53:56,594 Speaker 3: the zach Ef front teeth. 1264 00:53:58,754 --> 00:54:00,714 Speaker 2: Huge. Yeah you were ready to fact check us? 1265 00:54:00,874 --> 00:54:02,754 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was ready. I've like based my life on 1266 00:54:02,874 --> 00:54:04,994 Speaker 3: Gabrielle and Montez. I did the math club, I did 1267 00:54:05,034 --> 00:54:06,034 Speaker 3: the a cappella group. 1268 00:54:08,394 --> 00:54:09,514 Speaker 1: What she was saying, well, I don't know. 1269 00:54:09,554 --> 00:54:10,993 Speaker 5: I did math Club because that's all we had. 1270 00:54:11,194 --> 00:54:12,634 Speaker 2: She did the post That's meant to be. 1271 00:54:13,154 --> 00:54:14,154 Speaker 1: It was the lab coats. 1272 00:54:14,154 --> 00:54:14,393 Speaker 2: For me. 1273 00:54:14,554 --> 00:54:15,234 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my. 1274 00:54:15,194 --> 00:54:17,074 Speaker 3: God, I feel like a generation of girls just had 1275 00:54:17,074 --> 00:54:19,954 Speaker 3: those long sleeved blue tops because that's the iconic. 1276 00:54:19,714 --> 00:54:22,434 Speaker 5: Thing she wears, and then leaned against a lot of lockers. 1277 00:54:22,714 --> 00:54:24,834 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a great moment where she goes, oh 1278 00:54:24,834 --> 00:54:25,914 Speaker 2: that's a solo song. 1279 00:54:26,074 --> 00:54:27,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, huge. 1280 00:54:27,234 --> 00:54:29,033 Speaker 3: Well, one thing I thought, and when you were talking 1281 00:54:29,074 --> 00:54:31,354 Speaker 3: about how the ski lodge looks like the most fake 1282 00:54:31,474 --> 00:54:34,074 Speaker 3: thing ever, My favorite thing that I read is that 1283 00:54:34,194 --> 00:54:37,634 Speaker 3: the Disney Channel president Rich Ross he visited the setting 1284 00:54:37,754 --> 00:54:40,674 Speaker 3: Utah when they were filming that scene, and that scene 1285 00:54:40,914 --> 00:54:44,874 Speaker 3: brought him to tears. Watching Gabriella and Troy sings grown 1286 00:54:44,954 --> 00:54:49,554 Speaker 3: many Court said that he remembered he literally burst out crying. 1287 00:54:49,794 --> 00:54:51,913 Speaker 3: And I'm not a crier, but he just said he'd 1288 00:54:51,954 --> 00:54:53,234 Speaker 3: witnessed something perfect. 1289 00:54:53,354 --> 00:54:56,234 Speaker 5: It was them finding each other and us finding our footing. 1290 00:54:56,594 --> 00:54:57,154 Speaker 2: Oh you know what? 1291 00:54:57,234 --> 00:54:58,834 Speaker 1: He was being there for that. 1292 00:54:58,914 --> 00:55:00,873 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I think in that moment it really 1293 00:55:00,874 --> 00:55:02,953 Speaker 2: did work because their chemistry was so good, the song 1294 00:55:03,074 --> 00:55:04,834 Speaker 2: was great, the setting was ship. I think he was 1295 00:55:04,874 --> 00:55:09,913 Speaker 2: crying like, I'm going to make so much money. Yeah, 1296 00:55:08,034 --> 00:55:13,354 Speaker 2: I've made it exactly. Oh my god, So does that 1297 00:55:13,394 --> 00:55:15,234 Speaker 2: live up to your expectations? Anything else you want to 1298 00:55:15,234 --> 00:55:15,594 Speaker 2: throw in? 1299 00:55:15,954 --> 00:55:17,794 Speaker 3: Well, when you were saying we don't know the plot 1300 00:55:17,834 --> 00:55:20,714 Speaker 3: of what the musical is in high school musical, I 1301 00:55:20,754 --> 00:55:22,794 Speaker 3: was thinking that last night when I was rewatching it, 1302 00:55:22,834 --> 00:55:25,513 Speaker 3: and then I was like, maybe it's meta and this 1303 00:55:25,594 --> 00:55:28,393 Speaker 3: is the high school musical, Like maybe their musical in 1304 00:55:28,474 --> 00:55:30,994 Speaker 3: high school musical is the musical that we just watched. 1305 00:55:31,514 --> 00:55:33,234 Speaker 1: I don't get it. 1306 00:55:33,314 --> 00:55:34,433 Speaker 5: So the high school music. 1307 00:55:34,514 --> 00:55:37,033 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, but no, we watched. 1308 00:55:36,834 --> 00:55:39,194 Speaker 3: High school musical, which is the process of them making 1309 00:55:39,234 --> 00:55:39,754 Speaker 3: this musical. 1310 00:55:39,834 --> 00:55:42,674 Speaker 5: But that's the plot of the musical. It's like inception. 1311 00:55:43,074 --> 00:55:45,714 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 1312 00:55:46,474 --> 00:55:47,473 Speaker 5: Anyway, I thought, I come. 1313 00:55:47,394 --> 00:55:49,554 Speaker 2: Up, I know what you're saying. I don't think it 1314 00:55:49,594 --> 00:55:52,834 Speaker 2: is that. I think what it actually is is that 1315 00:55:52,954 --> 00:55:54,794 Speaker 2: we just never learned the plot of whatever their musical 1316 00:55:54,794 --> 00:55:56,314 Speaker 2: they're doing because they've made it up. So it's not 1317 00:55:56,354 --> 00:55:59,754 Speaker 2: a famous music what you're saying now, Yeah. 1318 00:55:59,914 --> 00:56:00,954 Speaker 5: So they're playing themselves. 1319 00:56:01,794 --> 00:56:04,754 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but like they made that more obvious in 1320 00:56:04,834 --> 00:56:07,714 Speaker 1: High School Musical three. But the musical is the high. 1321 00:56:07,514 --> 00:56:08,513 Speaker 2: School Yeah that's true. 1322 00:56:08,594 --> 00:56:10,754 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but maybe that was foreshadowing. 1323 00:56:10,754 --> 00:56:11,074 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1324 00:56:11,114 --> 00:56:13,194 Speaker 1: Anyway, I don't want to speculate about genius. 1325 00:56:13,234 --> 00:56:14,954 Speaker 3: But maybe they'll get a shout out at the Oscars, 1326 00:56:14,994 --> 00:56:16,354 Speaker 3: you know, a twenty year anniversary. 1327 00:56:16,434 --> 00:56:17,634 Speaker 5: Maybe they'll be a little review. 1328 00:56:19,234 --> 00:56:21,754 Speaker 1: What Lucas Grayville says that he wants so bad for 1329 00:56:21,794 --> 00:56:24,354 Speaker 1: there to be a reunion because he's a reunion. I 1330 00:56:24,394 --> 00:56:26,154 Speaker 1: think he's the only one who talks to all of them. 1331 00:56:26,354 --> 00:56:30,033 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Vanessa and Zach in particular, we're going through 1332 00:56:30,074 --> 00:56:32,434 Speaker 2: a pretty rough time. Again, This is from sources that 1333 00:56:32,434 --> 00:56:34,834 Speaker 2: I've double checked. We're going through a terrible time during 1334 00:56:34,874 --> 00:56:37,674 Speaker 2: the filming of the last movie and would have screaming 1335 00:56:37,714 --> 00:56:39,913 Speaker 2: matches on set and could barely be around each other. 1336 00:56:39,994 --> 00:56:42,634 Speaker 2: They broke up afterwards, but they and now if Vanessa 1337 00:56:42,674 --> 00:56:45,594 Speaker 2: has been like, we're not in touch anymore, Sheet still 1338 00:56:45,594 --> 00:56:48,074 Speaker 2: asked about it and she falled out with us Ashley 1339 00:56:48,114 --> 00:56:50,594 Speaker 2: Tisdale over the whole Austin Butler thing. 1340 00:56:50,794 --> 00:56:53,834 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really sad because she has friends with Austin Butler. 1341 00:56:53,674 --> 00:56:55,034 Speaker 5: And they were friends for a while. They did that 1342 00:56:55,074 --> 00:56:57,274 Speaker 5: cover together, weren't they in. 1343 00:56:57,194 --> 00:56:59,074 Speaker 2: The spinoff from High School mus a coinm of I 1344 00:56:59,114 --> 00:57:00,634 Speaker 2: know this Sharpay's Big Adventure. 1345 00:57:00,794 --> 00:57:02,714 Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, and I think they stayed in touch 1346 00:57:02,714 --> 00:57:05,074 Speaker 3: after that his breakout role. 1347 00:57:05,314 --> 00:57:06,354 Speaker 5: Anyway, we're really ending on a. 1348 00:57:06,394 --> 00:57:08,354 Speaker 2: Down and there. The way the thing is, even if 1349 00:57:08,394 --> 00:57:10,674 Speaker 2: the cast hasn't so the test of time, the movie has, 1350 00:57:10,754 --> 00:57:13,194 Speaker 2: and that's important. Wellme on, I'm so glad that was 1351 00:57:13,234 --> 00:57:14,234 Speaker 2: everything you wanted it to be. 1352 00:57:14,794 --> 00:57:16,234 Speaker 1: I'm so glad this is out in the world. 1353 00:57:16,434 --> 00:57:18,914 Speaker 2: I'm slightly stressed about you basing your all your life 1354 00:57:18,994 --> 00:57:21,954 Speaker 2: choices around Gabriella, who has just spent the whole episode 1355 00:57:21,954 --> 00:57:24,474 Speaker 2: trashing something. Well you talk about later girl. 1356 00:57:24,354 --> 00:57:27,274 Speaker 5: Well she never became a podcast producer, so it's not well. 1357 00:57:27,154 --> 00:57:28,954 Speaker 2: For he know what happened to her? Probably nothing good? 1358 00:57:29,034 --> 00:57:32,394 Speaker 2: Just married rich Well and also Emily a huge moment 1359 00:57:32,434 --> 00:57:34,194 Speaker 2: for you. I hope that lived up to your expectations. 1360 00:57:34,234 --> 00:57:34,914 Speaker 2: You did a great job. 1361 00:57:34,954 --> 00:57:36,794 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I mean, I'll wait for the 1362 00:57:36,834 --> 00:57:39,914 Speaker 1: spiller's feedback. Yeah, certainly know she did a good job. 1363 00:57:39,994 --> 00:57:42,674 Speaker 1: But oh my god, guys like this movie. Well, can't 1364 00:57:42,674 --> 00:57:44,554 Speaker 1: wait for when we do a really entreview for Haschoo 1365 00:57:44,594 --> 00:57:45,874 Speaker 1: Musical two and then Hagschore Musical three. 1366 00:57:45,914 --> 00:57:48,674 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't agreed to that, but okay. 1367 00:57:48,434 --> 00:57:51,234 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for listening to this episode. 1368 00:57:51,314 --> 00:57:54,034 Speaker 1: I hope you really like it personally. 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