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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the spill your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Free Player, executive producer of Mma MIA's interview podcast

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Speaker 1: No Filter, and just a pop culture media junkie that

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Speaker 1: muscles her way in here every now and then.

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Speaker 2: Well you muscle you're wearing when it's red carpet day.

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Speaker 2: I do because we have a very red carpet going

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Speaker 2: on as a record. I know it's not called a

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Speaker 2: screen Actors Guild anymore, a bag of lore. Always the

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Speaker 2: Actors Awards. What is that? Also? I think it's confusing

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Speaker 2: for Australians because we do have and we have the

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Speaker 2: actual Actor Awards. Yeah, so that's my feedback on that.

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Speaker 2: That's Australia's ipe by the way, Yes, yes, But apart

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Speaker 2: from that, all our favorite movie stars and TV show

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Speaker 2: stars are all in the red carpet together. We're going

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Speaker 2: to go through our best and worst looks because that's

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Speaker 2: what we do during awards season, is what we do.

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Speaker 2: That is what we are qualifying. Yes, me is in here,

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Speaker 2: just like, pull this T shirt off the floor and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna it's cream corded I'm gonna critique some red

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Speaker 2: carpet dresses. We love to see it. Also, Zendaia and

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Speaker 2: Rob Pattinson have kicked off their press tour for their

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Speaker 2: new movie, The Drama with a truly iconic joint interview

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Speaker 2: and magazine spread that we're going to get into. But first, Bree,

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Speaker 2: your brief for this morning was can I talk about

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Speaker 2: Harry Styles to kick the show off? And I said sure,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not even sure what you're gonna say.

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Speaker 1: And like, why she's here again yahing about Harry? But

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Speaker 1: there is news about Harry. Firstly, it's Harry Week. His

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Speaker 1: album comes out this Friday, Long Long Away in her

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Speaker 1: album comes out this Friday, which is so exciting. He

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Speaker 1: also performed at the brit Awards over the weekend, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught that. You have to

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Speaker 1: have not been able to miss it because it's been

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Speaker 1: all over social media. I love that Harry Edward Styles

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Speaker 1: has finally learned to dance. Yes, enjoyed a dance. But

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Speaker 1: if you look back at his one direction videos and

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Speaker 1: I have seen some fans mash them together and it

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Speaker 1: is so funny seeing where he started to where he's yeh,

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Speaker 1: a real inspiration for like, if you just work hard enough,

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Speaker 1: auditioned for X Factor or yes, yeah, yeah, couldn't dance

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Speaker 1: at all, but also interestingly can't sing it all. No,

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Speaker 1: And now look at the boy, go yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: just gorgeous. Then is even more gorgeous now so important?

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Speaker 1: He looked fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I did think.

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Speaker 1: What was really interesting thing is we are about to

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Speaker 1: talk about red carpet is he wore his Chanel suit

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Speaker 1: on the red carpet, got backstage, came out in the

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Speaker 1: same Chanel suit and did that whole performance in his

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Speaker 1: red carpet gear.

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Speaker 2: Oh that never happened to be a man. Also, like

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Speaker 2: I would not be allowed to do that. But he's

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Speaker 2: just like, you know what, I've got a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to change. And he also looked back

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Speaker 2: in his like full superstar vibe. Because remember when he

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Speaker 2: came out at the end of the Grammys, the boy

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Speaker 2: looked absolutely shell shocked. It's like your first day back

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Speaker 2: from holidays where you can't really function in the office.

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Speaker 2: That was him, but unfortunately it was at the Grammy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he had his January at the Grammy. Yes, that we

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Speaker 2: all do when we come back. This is a big

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Speaker 2: week for him. We've seen some activity. There's like the

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Speaker 2: album coming out. There's a pop up shop in Sydney

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Speaker 2: this week where there's is that where you're going to

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Speaker 2: his album in advance, which I'm really lucky to do.

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Speaker 1: I'll give a full report on Mama Mia later this

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Speaker 1: week and be on the spill next week.

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Speaker 2: You're mustling my way into talk about it. We love it,

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Speaker 2: love it if he deserves it. That boy's been through

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 1: And there's some rumors about some Netflix stock go. We've

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Speaker 2: On us, like behind the scenes. Yeah, maybe we don't know.

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Speaker 2: making their album. I'll watch all of them the same same. Okay, So,

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Speaker 2: as previously mentioned, the Screen Actors Guild Awards aka the

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Speaker 2: Actor Awards, I guess is happening as we speak. This

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Speaker 2: is one of the last big red carpets before the Oscars,

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Speaker 2: and there's so much voting crossover with the Oscars because

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Speaker 2: we'll get into that in a later show because the

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Speaker 2: ceremony hasn't happened yet. Today we're talking about the red carpet.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any faves or indeed things that you hate.

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Speaker 2: Let's go wearing over Bookie, because the thing is we

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Speaker 2: actually love all these people and it's like, it's not

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Speaker 1: No, it's so fine, And sometimes you have a miss

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Speaker 1: and then the next Red carpet you have a win. Okay,

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Speaker 1: straight off the bat, I love Love Love Rose Byrn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she looks stunning. I mean, look, she rarely puts a

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Speaker 1: foot wrong. I have to say. She's wearing Chanelle and

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Speaker 1: I normally rag on Chanell lately, but this is such

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Speaker 1: those times where I looked at it and preferred it

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Speaker 1: the runway. I think she just wears it so well,

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Speaker 1: and it's like this gorgeous like white gown. It's completely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she just looks stunning. I loved there's something when

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Speaker 2: And as someone who always has their ankle showing because

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Speaker 2: I'm so tall, can't find any things you don't have,

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Speaker 2: making that look chic. At first, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's a little simplistic, like I know, the closer you

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Speaker 2: wish she'd worn something just that. She's had a very

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Speaker 2: kind of like safe red carpet run But then the

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Speaker 2: so off the mark with what the fashion girls think.

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Speaker 2: Because I saw her in that beautiful green, I thought

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Speaker 1: Rose Burd That's how I felt about, Oh, I know

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Speaker 1: do feel like we have so many things that we

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Speaker 2: Okay, getting into a few other looks, I've got to

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Speaker 2: say I haven't felt a visceral hatred for anyone yet

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Speaker 2: this year, which is interesting. But maybe some more looks

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Speaker 2: just that I guess everyone looks kind of a little

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Speaker 2: bit simple. What did you think in Sarah Pigeon in Balenciaga. Okay,

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Speaker 1: The two that I have not loved, Yes, the two

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Speaker 1: then also the other one is our year in har Okay.

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Speaker 1: about Yaron hah is that she is so the lady

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Speaker 1: the world right now, the like the final part of

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Speaker 2: She just did a whole nother press around. Everyone's obsessed

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Speaker 2: Bridgeting came out like she should be the leading lady

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Speaker 2: just wanted her stylist to put her on a massive gown.

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Speaker 1: Well, I look, I think that they've gone the opposite

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Speaker 2: I mean, she looks so cool and she is, like,

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Speaker 2: she is so beautiful, she is so cool. I just

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Speaker 2: It's one of those situations, unlike Rose, where the model

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Speaker 2: runway look as well. And you're right. The model's got

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Speaker 2: she's got like she's wearing the pants high waisted, the

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Speaker 1: You get that, you get that proportion break in between

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Speaker 2: The outfits wearing her Oh yeah, I mean I don't,

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Speaker 2: like you said, She's had such a good run in

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Speaker 2: these beautiful gowns. So I'm sure it's fine and she

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Speaker 2: does look like so there's something about just rocking up

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Speaker 2: when everyone else is in these over the top gowns

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Speaker 2: tell she's got like a huge heel. There's something like

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Speaker 2: so chic about that. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 2: just wish she had kind of made a statement. It's

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Speaker 2: interesting her and Sarah Pigeon, the two girls her in Bluenciaga,

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Speaker 2: because Sarah Pigeons have a huge run on love story

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Speaker 2: I didn't mind this like pale pink almost like I'm

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Speaker 2: an upside down Chuoler perfect down the bottom. Yeah, it's pretty.

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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: see her in something more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I'm like, you're having the week of your

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Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about Yeah, you know who else is in Valenciaga,

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Speaker 2: She's in Valenciaga too. I don't love it either.

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Speaker 1: Purple, it's the really intense purple in the pale blue

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Speaker 1: And also I love when a woman gets the gear.

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Speaker 2: A few that I loved? Wouldn' Masaka from Sinners in

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Speaker 2: It's old school Paris Hilton in like the hair, the sunglasses.

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Speaker 2: So like it's so clever, Like I could dissect that

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Speaker 1: She looks like, well I want to we'll get our

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Speaker 2: Is she got a thigh high stocking one? Yes? She does. Okay,

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Speaker 2: First of all, I love that she's not wearing black.

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Speaker 1: It's like a it looks like like an evening slip,

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Speaker 2: love growing up mid normally, Like I know she is

430
00:18:52,794 --> 00:18:54,474
Speaker 2: a grown up. I know she's like mid twenties, but

431
00:18:54,514 --> 00:18:57,594
Speaker 2: something about that look, it's getting away from the whole,

432
00:18:57,674 --> 00:18:59,114
Speaker 2: like I'm Wednesday in high school.

433
00:18:59,154 --> 00:19:02,074
Speaker 1: That she doesn't pray and she does, you know, she

434
00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,273
Speaker 1: she does often play someone much younger than her, and

435
00:19:05,314 --> 00:19:07,834
Speaker 1: she does have that look where she can do that.

436
00:19:08,034 --> 00:19:09,874
Speaker 1: But it is nice to see her in this really

437
00:19:09,914 --> 00:19:12,114
Speaker 1: grown up look. And it's like it is sexy, it's

438
00:19:12,114 --> 00:19:13,553
Speaker 1: cut down or whatever, but it's not.

439
00:19:13,994 --> 00:19:16,074
Speaker 2: I don't think it's too much. No, it's great. No,

440
00:19:16,194 --> 00:19:18,634
Speaker 2: it's gorge Well, I guess it's all the red carpet

441
00:19:18,634 --> 00:19:20,394
Speaker 2: looks we have time for. We'll put the photos up

442
00:19:20,394 --> 00:19:23,314
Speaker 2: on our Instagram and yes, more about the SAG Awards

443
00:19:23,314 --> 00:19:31,354
Speaker 2: on tomorrow's show Okay, now onto a very important interview.

444
00:19:31,354 --> 00:19:33,354
Speaker 2: So this did come out over a week ago, but

445
00:19:33,474 --> 00:19:36,034
Speaker 2: it's for the March issue of Interview Magazine. And look,

446
00:19:36,074 --> 00:19:38,154
Speaker 2: we had other things going on, but I cannot let

447
00:19:38,274 --> 00:19:41,313
Speaker 2: Zendeia and Ron Pattinson's first big joint interview for the

448
00:19:41,394 --> 00:19:43,874
Speaker 2: drama go undiscussed. So we're going to do it now.

449
00:19:44,554 --> 00:19:47,394
Speaker 2: So yes, it's for the March issue of Interview Magazine

450
00:19:47,754 --> 00:19:52,114
Speaker 2: and the title is Robert Pattinson and Zendea Enter the Unknown.

451
00:19:52,514 --> 00:19:55,314
Speaker 2: And then we have one of the best mag covers

452
00:19:55,594 --> 00:19:58,033
Speaker 2: I think I have seen in many, many moons. So

453
00:19:58,074 --> 00:19:59,914
Speaker 2: you worked in mags for a long time, Bree, and

454
00:19:59,954 --> 00:20:02,994
Speaker 2: you did covers, especially what is your expert I haven't

455
00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,833
Speaker 2: even asked you this, What is your expert opinion on

456
00:20:04,874 --> 00:20:05,274
Speaker 2: this cover?

457
00:20:05,474 --> 00:20:09,194
Speaker 1: I love it. It's so hard now to create a

458
00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:12,154
Speaker 1: moment with magazine covers because I feel like we have

459
00:20:12,234 --> 00:20:15,234
Speaker 1: seen everything and everyone tries to have a crack at

460
00:20:15,274 --> 00:20:17,794
Speaker 1: making sure their mag cover gets really good cuts. Yeah,

461
00:20:17,834 --> 00:20:21,114
Speaker 1: it's tricky as well, because you're at the whim of

462
00:20:21,154 --> 00:20:24,513
Speaker 1: what the talent is and isn't willing to do the

463
00:20:24,594 --> 00:20:27,314
Speaker 1: great thing with our Pats and zendeya is they are

464
00:20:27,394 --> 00:20:30,314
Speaker 1: really fun, They are really quirky. They love to lean

465
00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:32,714
Speaker 1: into that, and they definitely want to do something really

466
00:20:32,914 --> 00:20:34,714
Speaker 1: unusual and stand out with this.

467
00:20:35,194 --> 00:20:36,994
Speaker 2: So as soon as I saw it, I was like, Okay,

468
00:20:36,994 --> 00:20:37,514
Speaker 2: this is great.

469
00:20:37,514 --> 00:20:39,434
Speaker 1: This Everyone's going to be talking about this, and that's

470
00:20:39,434 --> 00:20:41,554
Speaker 1: what you want when you're promoting a movie. Playing it

471
00:20:41,674 --> 00:20:42,914
Speaker 1: safe doesn't work.

472
00:20:43,074 --> 00:20:45,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to work. So everyone hasn't seen it.

473
00:20:45,514 --> 00:20:50,194
Speaker 2: They're both wearing a curly blonde wig almost she's and

474
00:20:50,234 --> 00:20:53,674
Speaker 2: he's wearing a white lace like a woman's pajama top

475
00:20:53,714 --> 00:20:56,074
Speaker 2: with a little bowl on it, and she's wearing coming

476
00:20:56,074 --> 00:20:58,434
Speaker 2: to see the sleeve like a white lacy top. But

477
00:20:58,714 --> 00:21:02,314
Speaker 2: she's standing behind him, and they've both got very sameared

478
00:21:02,474 --> 00:21:04,273
Speaker 2: red lipstick looks like me at the end of a

479
00:21:04,274 --> 00:21:07,314
Speaker 2: pod record sme and red lipstick all over their faces.

480
00:21:07,554 --> 00:21:10,914
Speaker 2: And she's got her arms wrapped like around his chest

481
00:21:11,114 --> 00:21:14,794
Speaker 2: and also her leg in a sheer stocking. I don't

482
00:21:14,794 --> 00:21:16,553
Speaker 2: know why this sounds dirty, It's not the way I'm

483
00:21:16,594 --> 00:21:19,714
Speaker 2: describing it. Wrapped around his waist and he's clutching her

484
00:21:19,834 --> 00:21:23,234
Speaker 2: legs kind of like sexy. It looks in old school

485
00:21:23,314 --> 00:21:25,274
Speaker 2: romance novel. Now that I'm looking at it, but.

486
00:21:25,314 --> 00:21:28,594
Speaker 1: Also constructed, Yeah, deconstructed. This is really interesting because my

487
00:21:28,714 --> 00:21:30,714
Speaker 1: first thought when I saw this is like, this is

488
00:21:30,714 --> 00:21:33,793
Speaker 1: the anti Wuthering Heights espress to her, and everything that

489
00:21:33,794 --> 00:21:36,914
Speaker 1: they're doing so far feels so different to what Margaret.

490
00:21:36,994 --> 00:21:39,554
Speaker 1: We've just watched Margot and Jacob do, and I love it.

491
00:21:39,754 --> 00:21:43,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost because their energy is so brother and sister. Yeah,

492
00:21:43,234 --> 00:21:45,234
Speaker 2: well not even brother and sister, and it's more like

493
00:21:45,314 --> 00:21:47,954
Speaker 2: kind of just like two colleagues who have started becoming friends,

494
00:21:47,994 --> 00:21:49,394
Speaker 2: which I guess is what they are. They've done so

495
00:21:49,434 --> 00:21:53,434
Speaker 2: many movies together. Now, yeah, are we should create his

496
00:21:53,594 --> 00:21:58,073
Speaker 2: poes total. But also this is like a little bit

497
00:21:58,154 --> 00:22:00,154
Speaker 2: it's not sexy, like it's sexy in the way they

498
00:22:00,154 --> 00:22:02,074
Speaker 2: both look hot, but I think it's because he looks

499
00:22:02,074 --> 00:22:04,553
Speaker 2: like a pretty court jester who's just been and she

500
00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:06,553
Speaker 2: looks like a queen and like an evil queen, and

501
00:22:06,554 --> 00:22:09,834
Speaker 2: there's like they've plotting our death totally. So it's more interesting,

502
00:22:10,554 --> 00:22:13,154
Speaker 2: Like the mouth and the lips is almost giving Joker,

503
00:22:13,234 --> 00:22:17,274
Speaker 2: which is so he's obviously Batman, but his switch side,

504
00:22:17,474 --> 00:22:19,593
Speaker 2: he switched sides, and he and he Lo does look

505
00:22:19,634 --> 00:22:23,754
Speaker 2: a bit villainous in it. I love it, and yeah,

506
00:22:23,914 --> 00:22:26,513
Speaker 2: what a great execution. It's weird that this is the

507
00:22:26,554 --> 00:22:29,034
Speaker 2: hottest I found Robert Pattinson for a long time, because

508
00:22:29,074 --> 00:22:31,754
Speaker 2: I love that man dearly and his quirky, weird thinks.

509
00:22:31,754 --> 00:22:33,794
Speaker 2: He smells like a crayon, all these sorts of things,

510
00:22:33,834 --> 00:22:36,074
Speaker 2: but I've never found him hot. And something about that

511
00:22:36,194 --> 00:22:39,674
Speaker 2: lace top across his muscly chest and the smeared lipstick.

512
00:22:41,354 --> 00:22:44,994
Speaker 1: That reminds me of speaking of Sendeaes when Tom Holland

513
00:22:44,994 --> 00:22:46,874
Speaker 1: did his lip sync.

514
00:22:46,714 --> 00:22:48,834
Speaker 2: Bat Oh my god. And that's the hottest he's ever been.

515
00:22:48,954 --> 00:22:49,754
Speaker 2: I've ever been.

516
00:22:49,994 --> 00:22:52,154
Speaker 1: And do you know what, because there's something so hot

517
00:22:52,234 --> 00:22:56,033
Speaker 1: about a man just like taking something on that they

518
00:22:56,034 --> 00:23:00,114
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally do and then just really owning it as well.

519
00:23:00,234 --> 00:23:02,754
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. Stick and lace and a

520
00:23:02,794 --> 00:23:05,194
Speaker 2: weird wig and I'll still look and that exactly. It's

521
00:23:05,194 --> 00:23:06,714
Speaker 2: hotter than just a man wearing a suit.

522
00:23:06,794 --> 00:23:09,553
Speaker 1: And he doesn't look self conscious or anything, make it

523
00:23:09,594 --> 00:23:12,114
Speaker 1: all yeah that no, you just be like that's the

524
00:23:12,154 --> 00:23:14,274
Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't hit but admits because he looks

525
00:23:14,354 --> 00:23:16,674
Speaker 1: so he looks confident, confident and comfortable.

526
00:23:16,994 --> 00:23:18,914
Speaker 2: Usually it looks like an easy little man like in

527
00:23:18,914 --> 00:23:20,234
Speaker 2: the corner, like he's.

528
00:23:19,954 --> 00:23:22,994
Speaker 1: He hates doing your talk about that awful meme of him.

529
00:23:23,874 --> 00:23:27,274
Speaker 2: But no, he is an awkward guy impressed so often

530
00:23:27,274 --> 00:23:29,073
Speaker 2: when you see him in interviews and things, he's like

531
00:23:29,314 --> 00:23:31,394
Speaker 2: he loves to giggle. Yes, he loves to giggle with

532
00:23:31,394 --> 00:23:33,874
Speaker 2: his female crows. Does he's one of the girls. He giggles,

533
00:23:33,914 --> 00:23:36,354
Speaker 2: he puts his head down, he looks shy, he's always

534
00:23:36,354 --> 00:23:39,474
Speaker 2: got his shoulders hunched and like it's endearing but not attractive.

535
00:23:39,594 --> 00:23:41,674
Speaker 1: It's also so funny because it's not like he's new

536
00:23:41,714 --> 00:23:43,074
Speaker 1: to doing pressing it.

537
00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:45,834
Speaker 2: No, but I think that's why he hates doing it.

538
00:23:45,914 --> 00:23:48,954
Speaker 1: But it's like he hates doing it. He's technically not

539
00:23:48,994 --> 00:23:51,314
Speaker 1: good at it, but he's actually great at it because

540
00:23:51,354 --> 00:23:55,394
Speaker 1: he creates these amazing viral moments. As an audience, we

541
00:23:55,474 --> 00:23:58,474
Speaker 1: love it. I don't know how his team feel about it,

542
00:23:58,834 --> 00:24:00,794
Speaker 1: but I don't think that he can be managed.

543
00:24:01,434 --> 00:24:03,074
Speaker 2: No, not at all, And I wonder though this is

544
00:24:03,114 --> 00:24:05,994
Speaker 2: their big first interview for the drama, which they talk

545
00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:09,034
Speaker 2: about in this and one of their teams were like, guys,

546
00:24:09,034 --> 00:24:11,754
Speaker 2: just be careful because the whole interview is Zendeia and

547
00:24:11,834 --> 00:24:14,954
Speaker 2: Robert interviewing each other in a kind of like you know,

548
00:24:14,994 --> 00:24:18,793
Speaker 2: they're just talking. It's not censored. So the interview starts

549
00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:21,594
Speaker 2: with saying, welcome to Rob Pattinson's and Deya's first into

550
00:24:21,714 --> 00:24:24,834
Speaker 2: about the drama and talking about them being the superstar

551
00:24:24,954 --> 00:24:27,114
Speaker 2: couple and saying that after they shot this movie, they

552
00:24:27,154 --> 00:24:29,994
Speaker 2: obviously wanted to do other movies, so The Odyssey and

553
00:24:30,034 --> 00:24:33,634
Speaker 2: also June Part three. So now they're kind of as

554
00:24:33,634 --> 00:24:36,793
Speaker 2: they're saying, like you know, besties. It starts off by

555
00:24:36,834 --> 00:24:39,354
Speaker 2: saying during the call, Rob was on vacation and wide

556
00:24:39,394 --> 00:24:42,674
Speaker 2: on caffeine, Zendea was taking a break from scrubbing grout,

557
00:24:42,754 --> 00:24:46,114
Speaker 2: and neither was in promo mode. Just two actors confronting

558
00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:49,234
Speaker 2: the absurdity of selling something they don't know how to explain.

559
00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:50,874
Speaker 2: So there we start off.

560
00:24:50,954 --> 00:24:53,874
Speaker 1: It's really interesting that they've taken that approach, and you know,

561
00:24:53,954 --> 00:24:56,994
Speaker 1: like at the beginning of the chat they both are like, oh,

562
00:24:56,994 --> 00:25:00,594
Speaker 1: who's interviewing us? And then which is weird and where

563
00:25:00,634 --> 00:25:03,754
Speaker 1: they kind of haven't been briefed that they're interviewing each other.

564
00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:06,074
Speaker 2: Now, I think skeptics.

565
00:25:05,594 --> 00:25:07,914
Speaker 1: Would go like, as if you don't if your team

566
00:25:07,954 --> 00:25:11,554
Speaker 1: haven't briefed you, but you probably can attest this with me.

567
00:25:11,874 --> 00:25:14,114
Speaker 1: The amount of times that I have gone to interview

568
00:25:14,154 --> 00:25:16,234
Speaker 1: someone and they have not been briefed by their team

569
00:25:16,554 --> 00:25:20,234
Speaker 1: on the construct of the interview. I wasn't surprised to read.

570
00:25:20,754 --> 00:25:22,874
Speaker 2: I'm sure people thought there was a setup, but like

571
00:25:22,914 --> 00:25:24,313
Speaker 2: it's just the two of them on the call, and

572
00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:26,194
Speaker 2: they're chatting like how are you? How are you? And

573
00:25:26,234 --> 00:25:29,034
Speaker 2: then Zendas like sorry, are we just interuing each other?

574
00:25:29,074 --> 00:25:31,194
Speaker 2: And he's like, it's interesting when Rob Pattinson is the

575
00:25:31,194 --> 00:25:33,674
Speaker 2: one who's in control, because usually he's like the I

576
00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:36,833
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on kind of gal. And he's like, yeah, Zenderai,

577
00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:38,754
Speaker 2: it's called Interview magazine and she's like, yes, I know,

578
00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:41,394
Speaker 2: but I thought someone would be asking us questions and

579
00:25:41,434 --> 00:25:43,754
Speaker 2: then they're just so chatty they get into it. Yeah,

580
00:25:43,754 --> 00:25:46,074
Speaker 2: and like essentially maybe she even thought that just someone

581
00:25:46,154 --> 00:25:48,954
Speaker 2: was moderating their conversation, not they would just be giving

582
00:25:48,994 --> 00:25:51,434
Speaker 2: free for Okay, here's a question about in terms of

583
00:25:51,434 --> 00:25:53,514
Speaker 2: the setup. So I don't believe that the top part

584
00:25:53,634 --> 00:25:56,754
Speaker 2: was set up? Do we think that she do? You

585
00:25:56,754 --> 00:25:59,194
Speaker 2: know not? What I'm going to say, this is wild

586
00:25:59,274 --> 00:26:00,914
Speaker 2: to me and I can't believe more people aren't thinking

587
00:26:00,954 --> 00:26:04,194
Speaker 2: about it. She starts by saying that, so he's on holidays,

588
00:26:04,234 --> 00:26:06,474
Speaker 2: he's white, on caffeine, he's having a fun time. She

589
00:26:06,634 --> 00:26:10,394
Speaker 2: is at home scrubbing her bathroom. She said, she's in

590
00:26:10,434 --> 00:26:14,554
Speaker 2: cleaning mode and she's down in the tiles scrubbing. And

591
00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:16,314
Speaker 2: he was like, oh, yeah, you're really getting it done.

592
00:26:16,354 --> 00:26:18,074
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, you know, it's just really like it

593
00:26:18,154 --> 00:26:20,234
Speaker 2: needed to be done. And I was like, there is

594
00:26:20,394 --> 00:26:24,313
Speaker 2: no way that Zendea is scrubbing her own bathroom, right, No,

595
00:26:24,314 --> 00:26:26,754
Speaker 2: no way at all. I thought that when I saw it.

596
00:26:27,034 --> 00:26:28,754
Speaker 1: I don't scrub the grout in my bathroom.

597
00:26:30,354 --> 00:26:32,274
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's the fact. You get a little bit of money,

598
00:26:32,354 --> 00:26:33,994
Speaker 2: the first thing you do is pay someone else to

599
00:26:33,994 --> 00:26:36,474
Speaker 2: scrub your bathroom, because that's the worst cleaning job ever.

600
00:26:36,834 --> 00:26:38,914
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. This girl has been very famous and

601
00:26:39,034 --> 00:26:41,234
Speaker 2: rich since she was fifteen, and I know she's down

602
00:26:41,274 --> 00:26:43,754
Speaker 2: to earth in many other ways and that she's like

603
00:26:43,794 --> 00:26:45,914
Speaker 2: a bit more low key, but I just don't think

604
00:26:45,914 --> 00:26:48,314
Speaker 2: she's spending her day off scrubbing her bathroom. Stories and DAYA,

605
00:26:48,434 --> 00:26:49,714
Speaker 2: you're lying, you know what.

606
00:26:49,594 --> 00:26:52,034
Speaker 1: My first thought was after that, after I thought there's

607
00:26:52,074 --> 00:26:53,594
Speaker 1: no way she's doing it. I was like, wait, is

608
00:26:53,594 --> 00:26:55,914
Speaker 1: she a virgo? Do I need to look into this?

609
00:26:56,034 --> 00:26:58,594
Speaker 1: Is she like this like neurotic virgos?

610
00:26:58,714 --> 00:26:59,994
Speaker 2: Is that what virgoes are? Yeah?

611
00:27:00,034 --> 00:27:01,994
Speaker 1: I think about star signs. Yeah, that's what I thought.

612
00:27:02,074 --> 00:27:03,194
Speaker 1: So I don't know, we need to check that.

613
00:27:03,394 --> 00:27:05,714
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the only thing that I could find

614
00:27:05,754 --> 00:27:07,834
Speaker 2: that would make sense for why she's scrubbing. I know,

615
00:27:08,154 --> 00:27:09,234
Speaker 2: I'm sure she wants to see.

616
00:27:09,154 --> 00:27:11,514
Speaker 1: Down to earth, but that was a little too down

617
00:27:11,594 --> 00:27:14,634
Speaker 1: and then she could have been making dinner. Yeah, that's

618
00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:18,514
Speaker 1: down to exactly because the rest of it was very

619
00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:20,513
Speaker 1: Oh oh, we just had only just had an update

620
00:27:20,514 --> 00:27:21,674
Speaker 1: from our producer live on air.

621
00:27:21,714 --> 00:27:24,634
Speaker 2: She is a virgo. Wow is my horoscopes? So really,

622
00:27:24,754 --> 00:27:28,033
Speaker 2: my friends, I've never believed in horoscopes. So maybe I

623
00:27:28,074 --> 00:27:31,154
Speaker 2: need to look into it till now. Till now because

624
00:27:31,154 --> 00:27:33,834
Speaker 2: she's wanting to Okay, so maybe she was scrubbing her bathroom,

625
00:27:33,994 --> 00:27:35,874
Speaker 2: maybe her world of scrubbing. I can't believe this is

626
00:27:35,914 --> 00:27:37,474
Speaker 2: the interview bit that we're going to talk for most

627
00:27:37,514 --> 00:27:41,154
Speaker 2: of that there's all this other important stuff they say,

628
00:27:41,194 --> 00:27:43,394
Speaker 2: but I can't move past this. Maybe she just gave

629
00:27:43,474 --> 00:27:45,514
Speaker 2: a little wife and she was like, well, scrubbed it,

630
00:27:45,674 --> 00:27:47,274
Speaker 2: and her clean has already been in there for three

631
00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:49,474
Speaker 2: hours and has like done it. It's interesting because they

632
00:27:49,554 --> 00:27:52,314
Speaker 2: start talking about what part of them is the most

633
00:27:52,314 --> 00:27:55,154
Speaker 2: Hollywood and over the top, and she's like, I'm not

634
00:27:55,194 --> 00:27:57,314
Speaker 2: a really over the top Hollywood person, which I kind

635
00:27:57,354 --> 00:27:58,954
Speaker 2: of do believe. I think she and Tom al were

636
00:27:58,994 --> 00:28:01,954
Speaker 2: like chilling when they're not work agree And I think

637
00:28:01,954 --> 00:28:05,114
Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine because no one has had a

638
00:28:05,114 --> 00:28:08,874
Speaker 2: better red carpet run than said, like, she always looks

639
00:28:08,994 --> 00:28:12,394
Speaker 2: and has always looked like the epitome of a Hollywood

640
00:28:12,514 --> 00:28:14,394
Speaker 2: yestar every time we see her, So it's hard to

641
00:28:14,434 --> 00:28:18,793
Speaker 2: imagine this like goddess Yeah, down on her hands and knees, scrubbing,

642
00:28:18,874 --> 00:28:21,353
Speaker 2: grubbing her bathroom and when they ask her what is like? Well,

643
00:28:21,434 --> 00:28:23,914
Speaker 2: Robert asked her in the interview Rob Pattinson, what's the

644
00:28:23,914 --> 00:28:25,874
Speaker 2: most Hollywood thing about her? And she said how she

645
00:28:25,914 --> 00:28:28,353
Speaker 2: treats her dog, And she's like, I'm so low key

646
00:28:28,354 --> 00:28:30,234
Speaker 2: about everything else, but she's like, my dog is these

647
00:28:30,274 --> 00:28:33,194
Speaker 2: really crazy meals that I get professionally cooked with the dog,

648
00:28:33,594 --> 00:28:35,754
Speaker 2: and they have all these special vitamins and she's like

649
00:28:35,794 --> 00:28:37,194
Speaker 2: walks the dog and She's like if and he's like,

650
00:28:37,234 --> 00:28:38,914
Speaker 2: if anyone looked at your dog funny, She's like, Oh,

651
00:28:38,914 --> 00:28:41,714
Speaker 2: I'd fight them for sure. So her dog's a diva.

652
00:28:41,914 --> 00:28:42,434
Speaker 1: I love that.

653
00:28:42,634 --> 00:28:44,914
Speaker 2: And then the dog a diva that a dog is.

654
00:28:44,954 --> 00:28:47,194
Speaker 2: It's like she's cleaning the bathroom and her dog's having

655
00:28:47,194 --> 00:28:50,034
Speaker 2: like a five star Michelin meal and the cutest moment,

656
00:28:50,074 --> 00:28:51,674
Speaker 2: which I wish I've delved into more. But I guess

657
00:28:51,754 --> 00:28:55,234
Speaker 2: Robert Pattinson's like not a journalist because during the interview,

658
00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:57,314
Speaker 2: the you can hear the dog, like in the audio,

659
00:28:57,354 --> 00:28:58,754
Speaker 2: he was saying, you can hear the dog barking in

660
00:28:58,794 --> 00:29:01,354
Speaker 2: the backgrounds because Tom Holland just like wandered in and

661
00:29:01,394 --> 00:29:03,594
Speaker 2: the dog was really excited to see him. And Robert

662
00:29:03,594 --> 00:29:06,194
Speaker 2: Pattinson asked no follow up questions. Oh, this is why

663
00:29:06,234 --> 00:29:08,394
Speaker 2: they needed a moderate That's what they needed a moderator

664
00:29:08,434 --> 00:29:10,554
Speaker 2: to get in there. I loved her. They also started

665
00:29:10,554 --> 00:29:12,754
Speaker 2: talking about like each other's personas and stuff, and he

666
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,794
Speaker 2: was like to her, like, you were so kind of

667
00:29:15,114 --> 00:29:17,674
Speaker 2: like you come across so confident, you know what you

668
00:29:17,754 --> 00:29:19,674
Speaker 2: want and like, and he was talking about the fact

669
00:29:19,674 --> 00:29:21,514
Speaker 2: that when she has her days off from shooting, she

670
00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:24,554
Speaker 2: still goes to set and watches everything on the monitors.

671
00:29:24,954 --> 00:29:26,674
Speaker 2: And I love how he was talking about the fact

672
00:29:26,674 --> 00:29:29,034
Speaker 2: that he wishes he was a bit more like together

673
00:29:29,114 --> 00:29:31,914
Speaker 2: and mysterious, and he's like, sometimes he stays really quiet

674
00:29:31,914 --> 00:29:34,234
Speaker 2: so that people think he's like more aloof and everything,

675
00:29:34,234 --> 00:29:36,234
Speaker 2: but when he starts talking, it's kind of sad. He

676
00:29:36,314 --> 00:29:38,474
Speaker 2: was basically saying, when he starts talking, he thinks people

677
00:29:38,474 --> 00:29:41,034
Speaker 2: think he's stupid, and he's so in awe of people

678
00:29:41,074 --> 00:29:43,594
Speaker 2: who can speak eloquently and who can just speak off

679
00:29:43,594 --> 00:29:44,914
Speaker 2: the cuff because he can't do it.

680
00:29:45,154 --> 00:29:47,354
Speaker 1: I think he's too good of an actor for people

681
00:29:47,354 --> 00:29:48,514
Speaker 1: to really think that he's stupid.

682
00:29:48,554 --> 00:29:49,914
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't think he's at all.

683
00:29:50,114 --> 00:29:53,514
Speaker 1: I you know, I think he's just awkward and gets

684
00:29:53,594 --> 00:29:55,674
Speaker 1: nervous in public settings like that.

685
00:29:56,514 --> 00:29:56,954
Speaker 2: I don't know.

686
00:29:57,634 --> 00:30:01,434
Speaker 1: I do think he's mysterious, he's amusing, that's not quite unpacked,

687
00:30:01,674 --> 00:30:03,434
Speaker 1: and I was twyhard back in the day.

688
00:30:03,474 --> 00:30:05,914
Speaker 2: I think I'm packing this man forever. Yeah, you still

689
00:30:05,954 --> 00:30:08,074
Speaker 2: don't have an answer. Yeah, it's it was an interesting

690
00:30:08,154 --> 00:30:11,554
Speaker 2: insecurity to hear from him that felt very genuine because

691
00:30:11,554 --> 00:30:13,434
Speaker 2: he and you know, I know they edited a call down,

692
00:30:13,434 --> 00:30:14,994
Speaker 2: but I think hens and they were just talking back

693
00:30:14,994 --> 00:30:17,034
Speaker 2: and forth for an hour, and it's the first time

694
00:30:17,034 --> 00:30:19,434
Speaker 2: they'd done anything like that. It's the first time they'd

695
00:30:19,434 --> 00:30:21,314
Speaker 2: done promo for any of these three movies they have

696
00:30:21,394 --> 00:30:23,314
Speaker 2: coming out, so it's all coming out in one go.

697
00:30:23,994 --> 00:30:26,194
Speaker 2: And yeah, I thought that was interesting. He was like, Oh,

698
00:30:26,234 --> 00:30:29,594
Speaker 2: you're so confident, you speak so well, and basically he's like,

699
00:30:29,634 --> 00:30:31,754
Speaker 2: I come across as a bimbo when I open my mouth.

700
00:30:32,674 --> 00:30:36,394
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, poor that poor rich, white successful man.

701
00:30:36,714 --> 00:30:39,634
Speaker 1: Who also has leant heavily on his female co stars

702
00:30:39,674 --> 00:30:41,394
Speaker 1: for every press ever tour.

703
00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:45,034
Speaker 2: He's just giggling in the background. I also just like

704
00:30:45,514 --> 00:30:46,994
Speaker 2: loved and maybe this is a bit nerdy and just

705
00:30:47,034 --> 00:30:48,674
Speaker 2: because like this is the area we work in. I

706
00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:51,634
Speaker 2: loved when they started talking about like press in general

707
00:30:51,994 --> 00:30:53,954
Speaker 2: and how they approach it because I found that they

708
00:30:53,994 --> 00:30:56,194
Speaker 2: were a little bit maybe a little bit more no

709
00:30:56,314 --> 00:30:58,634
Speaker 2: filter there when they would normally be. I agree.

710
00:30:58,634 --> 00:31:00,874
Speaker 1: And I think actually the fact that they didn't have

711
00:31:00,914 --> 00:31:03,434
Speaker 1: someone interviewing them and it was just them talking and

712
00:31:03,474 --> 00:31:06,394
Speaker 1: they had to talk about how to promote this film. Yeah,

713
00:31:06,434 --> 00:31:08,874
Speaker 1: it's like that we're having a work meetings in the interview,

714
00:31:08,914 --> 00:31:10,874
Speaker 1: because it was like they were having a work meeting

715
00:31:10,954 --> 00:31:13,034
Speaker 1: and talking about like, oh, how do we promote this film?

716
00:31:13,074 --> 00:31:15,154
Speaker 2: They're like, we don't really know how to promote this film.

717
00:31:15,154 --> 00:31:16,874
Speaker 2: We don't know how to talk about this film.

718
00:31:17,074 --> 00:31:19,274
Speaker 1: So that was really fascinating to see because we're going

719
00:31:19,314 --> 00:31:21,234
Speaker 1: to see now them going on like press run where

720
00:31:21,234 --> 00:31:25,314
Speaker 1: they get interviewed by professional journalists and to see how

721
00:31:25,674 --> 00:31:27,394
Speaker 1: like between now and then, surely they're gonna come up

722
00:31:27,394 --> 00:31:30,194
Speaker 1: with a way to actually describe this film right now.

723
00:31:30,274 --> 00:31:32,714
Speaker 2: They were struggling, yeah, because I guess they hadn't had

724
00:31:32,754 --> 00:31:34,674
Speaker 2: a plan together of how they were going to attack

725
00:31:34,714 --> 00:31:36,994
Speaker 2: the press run for this movie. And it's interesting because

726
00:31:37,074 --> 00:31:38,634
Speaker 2: Rob was like, I don't really like doing press and

727
00:31:38,754 --> 00:31:40,954
Speaker 2: en days like I wish we could find a way

728
00:31:41,034 --> 00:31:44,114
Speaker 2: to promote these movies without doing press, which I don't

729
00:31:44,154 --> 00:31:46,034
Speaker 2: love to hear, especially like Cintaia. I thought you and

730
00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:47,914
Speaker 2: I really bonded when last time I interviewed you. But

731
00:31:47,914 --> 00:31:50,954
Speaker 2: that's fine, But I understand why, because they're worried about

732
00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:53,034
Speaker 2: getting tricked up. They're worrying about like how they talk

733
00:31:53,074 --> 00:31:55,514
Speaker 2: about the movie. They're worried about the headlines that are

734
00:31:55,514 --> 00:31:57,234
Speaker 2: going to come out of it. And they both said,

735
00:31:57,234 --> 00:31:59,314
Speaker 2: they're so happy to do press runs, but they wish

736
00:31:59,354 --> 00:32:01,634
Speaker 2: they could find a way because She's like, at the

737
00:32:01,674 --> 00:32:02,914
Speaker 2: end of the day, we want people to go to

738
00:32:02,914 --> 00:32:04,954
Speaker 2: the cinema to see movies because we love movies. We

739
00:32:04,994 --> 00:32:07,394
Speaker 2: love people going to the cinema, and there's no to

740
00:32:07,434 --> 00:32:09,874
Speaker 2: do that without us doing this big press run. But

741
00:32:09,914 --> 00:32:11,474
Speaker 2: I wish we didn't have to and we could just

742
00:32:11,514 --> 00:32:14,674
Speaker 2: go make another movie. And I was like, yeah, it's like,

743
00:32:14,714 --> 00:32:16,274
Speaker 2: I get it, but it's part of the job.

744
00:32:16,354 --> 00:32:18,514
Speaker 1: And you know, everyone has parts of their job that

745
00:32:18,554 --> 00:32:21,154
Speaker 1: they don't love. And I guess if you've got an

746
00:32:21,194 --> 00:32:24,194
Speaker 1: actor who prefers the press to her more than the

747
00:32:24,354 --> 00:32:26,874
Speaker 1: draft herself, that's probably a bit of a red flag

748
00:32:26,994 --> 00:32:29,434
Speaker 1: and they're probably not going to have a very successful career.

749
00:32:29,634 --> 00:32:30,834
Speaker 2: Ye. But yeah, I.

750
00:32:30,754 --> 00:32:33,474
Speaker 1: Also don't love hearing that centaut I gave you a

751
00:32:33,514 --> 00:32:34,674
Speaker 1: Dolly cover back in the day.

752
00:32:34,874 --> 00:32:37,034
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, I thought we bonded there. We've

753
00:32:37,034 --> 00:32:40,034
Speaker 2: both been very instrumental in your no. I think here's

754
00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:42,034
Speaker 2: why I think it was surprising Rob Pattinson saying he

755
00:32:42,114 --> 00:32:44,314
Speaker 2: doesn't love a press run. I'm like, dude, obviously you

756
00:32:44,354 --> 00:32:46,674
Speaker 2: look like you're in hell. We know you've been looking

757
00:32:46,714 --> 00:32:48,594
Speaker 2: like you're in hell for the last twenty honeurs you

758
00:32:48,714 --> 00:32:51,954
Speaker 2: do it, Zendaya. I thought that was interesting because she

759
00:32:52,074 --> 00:32:54,674
Speaker 2: seems like an actress who quite loves a press run.

760
00:32:54,674 --> 00:32:56,514
Speaker 2: And I know she loves the outfits and she loves

761
00:32:56,514 --> 00:32:58,754
Speaker 2: the drama in totally and she loves all of that,

762
00:32:58,874 --> 00:33:01,394
Speaker 2: But she leans into a press run in such a

763
00:33:01,514 --> 00:33:04,714
Speaker 2: huge way, both by how she like dresses and little

764
00:33:04,714 --> 00:33:06,634
Speaker 2: East drogs that she hides in her outfits, and how

765
00:33:06,634 --> 00:33:09,514
Speaker 2: she likes to create a moment virgo energy about. Yeah.

766
00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:11,634
Speaker 2: Yet now we've I've learned what to burgo is and

767
00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:13,314
Speaker 2: I'm more across that, And so I thought it was

768
00:33:13,354 --> 00:33:15,954
Speaker 2: interesting that she is coming out and saying she doesn't

769
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:17,874
Speaker 2: like to do a press run when so much of

770
00:33:17,914 --> 00:33:21,234
Speaker 2: her career is built on her doing this big iconic

771
00:33:21,274 --> 00:33:23,154
Speaker 2: It's like her and Margot Robbie are the two I

772
00:33:23,154 --> 00:33:25,554
Speaker 2: think actors at the moment who really own press runs

773
00:33:25,594 --> 00:33:28,074
Speaker 2: in a way that becomes bigger than a movie, definitely,

774
00:33:28,154 --> 00:33:29,954
Speaker 2: And so I would also find it strange if Margot

775
00:33:29,994 --> 00:33:32,394
Speaker 2: Robbie was like, I hate doing press too, absolutely, And

776
00:33:32,394 --> 00:33:35,114
Speaker 2: also we can see the payoff from those as well.

777
00:33:35,194 --> 00:33:38,234
Speaker 2: I mean they've been really instrumental in getting people into cinemas.

778
00:33:39,034 --> 00:33:41,554
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. And yeah, you know, I think I think

779
00:33:41,634 --> 00:33:45,514
Speaker 2: Zendaya has a producer brain as well, which I don't

780
00:33:45,554 --> 00:33:48,154
Speaker 2: necessarily think our Pats had. No, he doesn't. That's because

781
00:33:48,154 --> 00:33:50,354
Speaker 2: that's what Margot Robbie has, Right, there's someone who there's

782
00:33:50,354 --> 00:33:52,274
Speaker 2: some women who are like, you're not just an actress,

783
00:33:52,274 --> 00:33:53,034
Speaker 2: you're a business woman.

784
00:33:53,194 --> 00:33:55,634
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think Zendaya has been that since the

785
00:33:55,714 --> 00:33:59,074
Speaker 1: start she had, Like her father was really instrumental in

786
00:33:59,234 --> 00:34:01,954
Speaker 1: the beginning of her career as well and managed her. Yeah,

787
00:34:01,994 --> 00:34:03,954
Speaker 1: and so I think it's kind of again like that

788
00:34:04,074 --> 00:34:06,274
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift vibe as well on the music into the

789
00:34:06,394 --> 00:34:09,234
Speaker 1: like family business to start with, the grows grows and grows,

790
00:34:09,274 --> 00:34:12,473
Speaker 1: and you know she learnt the business from the inside

791
00:34:12,514 --> 00:34:15,234
Speaker 1: like that. But even her going to set on days

792
00:34:15,234 --> 00:34:17,674
Speaker 1: where she's not needed and watching the monitor and everything,

793
00:34:17,714 --> 00:34:18,754
Speaker 1: that's that's producer in it.

794
00:34:18,874 --> 00:34:21,674
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, that really is. And so most of the

795
00:34:21,754 --> 00:34:23,674
Speaker 2: rest of the interviews is them talking about the drama

796
00:34:23,714 --> 00:34:24,994
Speaker 2: and talking at the fact that they don't know how

797
00:34:25,034 --> 00:34:26,953
Speaker 2: to promote it because it's a movie we have talked

798
00:34:26,954 --> 00:34:29,274
Speaker 2: about in the spill, We've seen the trailer, and it's

799
00:34:29,274 --> 00:34:31,473
Speaker 2: like they are a couple who's engaged, are in love,

800
00:34:31,514 --> 00:34:34,754
Speaker 2: and then she tells him some huge, big secret about

801
00:34:34,754 --> 00:34:37,154
Speaker 2: something terrible that she's done. It throws the whole wedding

802
00:34:37,234 --> 00:34:40,114
Speaker 2: off kilter, and obviously the whole movie hinges on the

803
00:34:40,154 --> 00:34:43,994
Speaker 2: audience not knowing what that secret is, and so they're

804
00:34:44,234 --> 00:34:46,154
Speaker 2: very kind of wary of how to talk about it.

805
00:34:46,314 --> 00:34:48,114
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you've seen this. The secret's

806
00:34:48,114 --> 00:34:50,594
Speaker 2: being leaked online. I know that it.

807
00:34:50,554 --> 00:34:54,914
Speaker 1: Has because Spill hosts Tina Burke. Yeah, yeah, she looked,

808
00:34:56,114 --> 00:34:59,594
Speaker 1: Oh okay, she told me it had been spoiled for her.

809
00:34:59,954 --> 00:35:02,234
Speaker 1: Oh she didn't tell you, did she? No, she didn't

810
00:35:02,234 --> 00:35:03,834
Speaker 1: tell me what it was. She said, I won't tell you.

811
00:35:03,874 --> 00:35:05,954
Speaker 1: I ruined it. But she's like, it got spoiled for me,

812
00:35:06,114 --> 00:35:09,074
Speaker 1: but now you tell me. She actually no, she looks

813
00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:09,634
Speaker 1: she knows.

814
00:35:09,674 --> 00:35:11,794
Speaker 2: So I have a couple of friends who were like, oh,

815
00:35:11,834 --> 00:35:14,594
Speaker 2: did you see that the drama secrets? Being like it

816
00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:16,834
Speaker 2: got leaked and there's a whole Reddit thread and people

817
00:35:16,874 --> 00:35:18,194
Speaker 2: are talking about it. And I said to every one

818
00:35:18,234 --> 00:35:19,754
Speaker 2: of them, if you show me that, I would never

819
00:35:19,754 --> 00:35:20,433
Speaker 2: speak to you again.

820
00:35:20,554 --> 00:35:20,754
Speaker 1: Yeah.

821
00:35:20,794 --> 00:35:22,594
Speaker 2: I don't want it spoiled. I don't want to cinema

822
00:35:22,594 --> 00:35:23,074
Speaker 2: and watch it.

823
00:35:23,234 --> 00:35:25,754
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's what Zendeya and our Pats want to

824
00:35:25,754 --> 00:35:27,274
Speaker 1: start as well. They just don't know how to tell

825
00:35:27,354 --> 00:35:27,554
Speaker 1: us how.

826
00:35:28,114 --> 00:35:30,433
Speaker 2: They are just struggling to do press for this movie,

827
00:35:30,434 --> 00:35:32,514
Speaker 2: to keep this secret, and then the secret's out online

828
00:35:32,554 --> 00:35:34,274
Speaker 2: so everyone don't look at it. That's bad.

829
00:35:34,514 --> 00:35:36,834
Speaker 1: I don't look at it. It is bad, but I do.

830
00:35:37,034 --> 00:35:40,074
Speaker 1: I really do feel like this is the opposite to

831
00:35:40,154 --> 00:35:42,473
Speaker 1: what we saw with the watering height. Yeah, but they

832
00:35:42,594 --> 00:35:44,594
Speaker 1: really knew what they wanted to say, and yeah, all

833
00:35:44,634 --> 00:35:47,594
Speaker 1: the different talking, but had they're talking, they were, you know,

834
00:35:48,034 --> 00:35:51,434
Speaker 1: Margo had that down and locked and Jacob followed suit

835
00:35:51,634 --> 00:35:55,354
Speaker 1: like a little puppy around and we're seeing the opposite use,

836
00:35:55,394 --> 00:35:55,913
Speaker 1: which is fun.

837
00:35:55,914 --> 00:35:58,074
Speaker 2: It keeps it interesting. He just keep it interesting. Well,

838
00:35:58,114 --> 00:35:59,554
Speaker 2: I know these two don't want to do a press tour,

839
00:35:59,594 --> 00:36:01,074
Speaker 2: but I'm so looking forward to the next couple of

840
00:36:01,114 --> 00:36:03,873
Speaker 2: weeks and watching their press tour roll out. So we'll

841
00:36:03,874 --> 00:36:07,074
Speaker 2: link the full Interview magazine article in our show notes.

842
00:36:08,074 --> 00:36:10,074
Speaker 2: We only really scratch the surface, but it's just the

843
00:36:10,074 --> 00:36:12,354
Speaker 2: two of them bantering back and forth through the whole thing,

844
00:36:12,394 --> 00:36:15,514
Speaker 2: and really the bathroom takeaway is the biggest thing, absolutely

845
00:36:15,554 --> 00:36:16,234
Speaker 2: the biggest thing.

846
00:36:16,354 --> 00:36:19,154
Speaker 1: And you know what center If you are scrubbing your bathroom,

847
00:36:19,154 --> 00:36:19,834
Speaker 1: more power to you.

848
00:36:19,954 --> 00:36:20,634
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

849
00:36:21,354 --> 00:36:23,393
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the Spill today wherever you're

850
00:36:23,394 --> 00:36:25,674
Speaker 1: listening from. If you could rate and review, we will

851
00:36:25,714 --> 00:36:28,033
Speaker 1: love you for it. We'll be back tomorrow to talk

852
00:36:28,114 --> 00:36:29,274
Speaker 1: more about the SAG Awards.

853
00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:38,714
Speaker 2: Bye bye, Mamma. Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land.

854
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Speaker 2: We have recorded this podcast on the Gatigor people of

855
00:36:41,754 --> 00:36:45,154
Speaker 2: the Orination. We pay our respects to their elders past

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Speaker 2: and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and

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Speaker 2: Torres Strait Islander cultures.