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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Quikie. Do you have Post Olympic depression? For those

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Speaker 1: who love nothing more than watching random games of handball

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Speaker 1: and that Canadian kneeling canoe racing with a side order

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Speaker 1: of artistic gymnastics and a few laps of the pool. Then,

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Speaker 1: with the two weeks of sporting prowess now gone for

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Speaker 1: another four years, we might feel a little down. That is,

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Speaker 1: until you realize the Paralympics are just eight days away.

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Speaker 1: Today the quikizonwe Taylor Strato is going to join us

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Speaker 1: again to learn a few things about the Paralympics. One

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Speaker 1: fact that may just make you feel pretty down, silly

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Speaker 1: for not knowing. I know I did so before we

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Speaker 1: get our Paralympics on, let's get the latest from the

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Speaker 1: Quokie newsroom. Tuesday, August twenty Britney Higgins, lawyer has told

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Speaker 1: the judge the defamation trial brought against her by Senator

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Speaker 1: due to take to the stand for five days next week,

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Speaker 1: for reasons she'll make clear and closing, she doesn't think

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Speaker 1: they need to call Miss Higgins to satisfy the judge

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Speaker 1: and be successful in the proceedings. Senator Reynolds's former chief

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Speaker 1: judge granting her an exemption after her psychiatric and medical

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Speaker 1: reports were provided. Senator Reynolds's claims that social media posts

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Speaker 1: by Miss Higgins and her now husband David scharraz around

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Speaker 1: the Senator's handling of Miss higgins allegation she was raped

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Speaker 1: cause distress. A world first study by the University of

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Speaker 1: Adelaide JBI and the Mandarou Foundation has found exposure to

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Speaker 1: chemicals found in common plastics increases health risks across the

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Speaker 1: human life cycle. The Umbrella Review, which consolidated vast amounts

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Speaker 1: of research into a single source, found exposure to plasid

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Speaker 1: Dick associated chemicals was linked to a wide range of

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Speaker 1: health outcomes, including miscarriage, low birth weight, neurodevelopment in children, obesity,

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Speaker 1: blood pressure, asthma, and precocious puberty in girls in adulthood.

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Speaker 1: The chemicals increase the risk of a woman developing endometriosis

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Speaker 1: cardiovascular disease, hypertension and cancer. Mindaroo Foundation director Jay Weatherill

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Speaker 1: says when the Weld faced similar discoveries with other chemicals

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Speaker 1: for countries to do the same with plastic chemicals. After

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Speaker 1: CFMEU into administration, passing a law to stop the Construction

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Speaker 1: Union from resisting external administrators. The union criticized the law,

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Speaker 1: saying it strips members of the right to affair process.

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Speaker 1: The move comes as criminal allegations were leveled at the union,

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Speaker 1: its national secretary, Zack Smith, saying the allegations were being

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Speaker 1: but that they remain untested in court and until that happens,

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Speaker 1: in jail. Phil Donahue, the host of his own long

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening across the globe today. Next it's just

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Speaker 1: more epic sporting moments. If you've done a bit of

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Speaker 1: that the Olympics is over? Well? USA rugby seven's queen

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Speaker 3: What am I going to do now the Olympics are over?

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Speaker 3: There's nothing to see? There's something to watch as more excitement. Wrong.

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Speaker 1: One thing that cuts through across the Paralympic team, aside

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Speaker 5: These are the best athletes on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Many other para athletes have been posting to remind the

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Speaker 1: By nineteen sixty four hundred athletes from twenty three countries

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Speaker 1: and as of Seoul in nineteen eighty eight, the Paralympic

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Speaker 1: as the Olympics. Australia has competed at every Paralympic Games

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Speaker 1: Taylor Strano is the Quickie senior producer, and she joins

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Speaker 2: Hello Taylor, Oh, thank you for having me back. I

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Speaker 2: feel like we're carving out a sport niche for ourselves. Guy.

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Speaker 1: I know pretty soon we're going to be launching our

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to know, are you fully across why

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Speaker 1: we call the Paralympics of Paralympics?

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Speaker 2: It's not something that I've ever considered before. I know

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Speaker 4: We're all completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: I was completely wrong. And this goes to show just

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Speaker 1: and ignorant of me to think that. But apparently I'm

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Speaker 1: oh my god, why did I ever think that? Because

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Speaker 1: the Paralympics is a reference to being parallel to the

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Speaker 1: Olympic Game. So it comes from a Greek word power,

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Speaker 1: which means like alongside, So it means the Paralympics are

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Speaker 1: the parallel to the Olympic Games, so they exist side

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Speaker 4: Which makes sense on so many levels.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that's where the Olympics started in ancient Greece.

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