1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,465 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:23,745 Speaker 1: recorded on. Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed, 4 00:00:23,985 --> 00:00:25,785 Speaker 1: and I'm don't even feel jailty about it. 5 00:00:28,345 --> 00:00:31,225 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to You Beauty, the daily podcast for 6 00:00:31,305 --> 00:00:34,985 Speaker 2: Your Face. I'm Arion Dockerty and welcome to the formula. 7 00:00:35,065 --> 00:00:37,185 Speaker 2: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of 8 00:00:37,185 --> 00:00:40,145 Speaker 2: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into 9 00:00:40,145 --> 00:00:43,225 Speaker 2: their skincare autems. If you guys tuned in. A few 10 00:00:43,265 --> 00:00:46,505 Speaker 2: weeks ago, we did a French skincare deep dive, which 11 00:00:46,585 --> 00:00:48,745 Speaker 2: has ignited a bit of a question in the You 12 00:00:48,825 --> 00:00:52,825 Speaker 2: Beauty team. Which country does the best skincare? I'm on 13 00:00:52,865 --> 00:00:55,385 Speaker 2: a mission to find out. Over the next few months, 14 00:00:55,425 --> 00:00:58,385 Speaker 2: I'll be uncovering the best kept skincare secrets from around 15 00:00:58,385 --> 00:01:02,185 Speaker 2: the globe. And today we're learning all about Indian beauty. 16 00:01:02,625 --> 00:01:06,065 Speaker 2: India is known for use of natural ingredients, herbal remedies 17 00:01:06,065 --> 00:01:09,625 Speaker 2: and deeply moisturizing products, and of course we can't forget 18 00:01:09,745 --> 00:01:12,505 Speaker 2: how India is leading the way with scalp and haircare. 19 00:01:12,945 --> 00:01:16,385 Speaker 2: To help learn more, we're chatting with doctor Tanya Ernie today. 20 00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:19,465 Speaker 2: Doctor Tania started out as a GP but now works 21 00:01:19,545 --> 00:01:23,705 Speaker 2: wonders in dermatology and cosmetic skincare. She's even launched her 22 00:01:23,705 --> 00:01:27,985 Speaker 2: own medical grade skincare line all about achieving healthy, radiant skin. 23 00:01:28,705 --> 00:01:32,345 Speaker 2: Rooted in her Indian heritage, Doctor Tania combines modern science 24 00:01:32,385 --> 00:01:35,665 Speaker 2: with Indian skin secrets, so we know we can trust her. 25 00:01:36,225 --> 00:01:39,465 Speaker 2: She's here to share the top four skincare ingredients every 26 00:01:39,505 --> 00:01:43,185 Speaker 2: Indian woman swears by. The glowing skin, glossy hair and 27 00:01:43,305 --> 00:01:48,305 Speaker 2: deep hydration plus doctor Tania's ultimate hair oiling technique and 28 00:01:48,545 --> 00:01:52,425 Speaker 2: the little known supercharged Elixa she uses as a primer, 29 00:01:52,665 --> 00:01:59,025 Speaker 2: moisturizer and glowenhandser. You are such beautiful skill, but how 30 00:02:00,185 --> 00:02:02,625 Speaker 2: well Tanya. Thank you so much for joining us today. 31 00:02:02,785 --> 00:02:04,745 Speaker 2: You have been on New Beauty before and I have 32 00:02:04,905 --> 00:02:09,505 Speaker 2: been itching to have a conversation with you and talk skincare. 33 00:02:09,745 --> 00:02:12,385 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. I should thank you. I 34 00:02:12,465 --> 00:02:15,185 Speaker 1: really loved the last time that we had a conversation, 35 00:02:15,305 --> 00:02:18,425 Speaker 1: and yeah, when I was invited this time, I was like, yeah, 36 00:02:18,745 --> 00:02:20,505 Speaker 1: love what you guys do. Thank you. 37 00:02:20,585 --> 00:02:23,105 Speaker 2: Oh that's good news. We can't wait to get into 38 00:02:23,305 --> 00:02:26,345 Speaker 2: everything skincare with you. So let's start with a little 39 00:02:26,385 --> 00:02:28,745 Speaker 2: bit of a background. Can you walk us through some 40 00:02:28,785 --> 00:02:32,505 Speaker 2: of the common skin concerns that you usually come across 41 00:02:32,545 --> 00:02:34,225 Speaker 2: in cosmetic medicine. 42 00:02:34,425 --> 00:02:37,585 Speaker 1: I have to say, like, lately, I've been seeing a 43 00:02:37,665 --> 00:02:42,825 Speaker 1: lot of youngsters with acne and pigmentation problem and that 44 00:02:43,185 --> 00:02:48,225 Speaker 1: then affecting their confidence and then impacting in their productivity 45 00:02:48,225 --> 00:02:52,305 Speaker 1: and stuff. The other skin condition that I'm seeing regularly 46 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:57,145 Speaker 1: is pigmentation issues and uneven skin tone. The third, I 47 00:02:57,185 --> 00:03:01,985 Speaker 1: would say underride dark circles that people are concerned about. 48 00:03:02,585 --> 00:03:04,785 Speaker 2: So with these kind of skin concerns that you're saying, 49 00:03:04,985 --> 00:03:08,265 Speaker 2: do you think some of them particularly like acne, flare 50 00:03:08,345 --> 00:03:11,425 Speaker 2: ups or pigmentation, any of these off the back of 51 00:03:11,945 --> 00:03:15,425 Speaker 2: the kind of social media trends that have been happening 52 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:18,745 Speaker 2: with people trying so many different products, you know, having 53 00:03:18,785 --> 00:03:20,585 Speaker 2: access to so many products. 54 00:03:20,785 --> 00:03:24,265 Speaker 1: I love that question. I do believe that is the case. 55 00:03:24,465 --> 00:03:27,065 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about your practice. 56 00:03:27,145 --> 00:03:31,545 Speaker 2: It's mainly inspired by Indian skincare secrets. Can you walk 57 00:03:31,665 --> 00:03:35,385 Speaker 2: us through the principles of Indian skincare and tell me 58 00:03:35,425 --> 00:03:38,225 Speaker 2: a little bit about why Indian beauty can help us 59 00:03:38,265 --> 00:03:38,905 Speaker 2: with our skin. 60 00:03:39,425 --> 00:03:43,665 Speaker 1: I've always wondered things that I grew up which I 61 00:03:43,705 --> 00:03:48,385 Speaker 1: thought was just natural and just normal, and I thought, you, oh, 62 00:03:48,705 --> 00:03:53,145 Speaker 1: isn't this common knowledge that was in my mind. You know, 63 00:03:53,225 --> 00:03:55,905 Speaker 1: we call it like a daily routine or dinner charia. 64 00:03:56,145 --> 00:03:58,545 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a routine thing like I'll give 65 00:03:58,545 --> 00:04:02,665 Speaker 1: you an example, like certain food that you should avoid. 66 00:04:02,705 --> 00:04:06,305 Speaker 1: Those are like the things that you tend to follow 67 00:04:06,345 --> 00:04:09,785 Speaker 1: when you have got particular type of skin, and that's 68 00:04:09,865 --> 00:04:13,625 Speaker 1: on certain principles and idoweta or Indian medicine. And then 69 00:04:14,305 --> 00:04:17,705 Speaker 1: applying oil was something that I thought everyone will know 70 00:04:17,825 --> 00:04:21,425 Speaker 1: about it and everyone does that. But then it changed 71 00:04:21,465 --> 00:04:27,625 Speaker 1: when I started practicing in skin, and then I realized, actually, no, 72 00:04:27,905 --> 00:04:30,465 Speaker 1: that's not the key. Like I apply oil every single 73 00:04:30,505 --> 00:04:34,665 Speaker 1: time before I have shower, like on my scap because 74 00:04:34,665 --> 00:04:36,745 Speaker 1: that's a normal thing for me because yes, I have 75 00:04:36,985 --> 00:04:40,225 Speaker 1: actually bleached my hair. But then I know I need 76 00:04:40,265 --> 00:04:43,465 Speaker 1: to do the something to actually antidote or protect it. 77 00:04:43,545 --> 00:04:46,785 Speaker 1: That's oil for me. That's normal. So those sort of 78 00:04:46,865 --> 00:04:50,825 Speaker 1: things I thought that was just common knowledge. So if 79 00:04:50,825 --> 00:04:54,745 Speaker 1: I look back, my heritage, oiling was regular, like once 80 00:04:54,785 --> 00:04:58,145 Speaker 1: a week, whole body oiling that's growing on. You know, 81 00:04:58,305 --> 00:05:01,785 Speaker 1: you would have like cleansing water in the morning. When 82 00:05:01,825 --> 00:05:05,265 Speaker 1: you're going through that phase of you know, periods and stuff. 83 00:05:05,465 --> 00:05:07,705 Speaker 1: You know, there are certain things that you would do 84 00:05:07,905 --> 00:05:10,465 Speaker 1: more or do lesser, certain alas. What I'm trying to 85 00:05:10,465 --> 00:05:14,185 Speaker 1: say is a lifestyle. So it's really a lifestyle. Medicine 86 00:05:14,385 --> 00:05:17,545 Speaker 1: is what I grew up with. That's my background, and 87 00:05:17,625 --> 00:05:21,905 Speaker 1: when in real practice, I'm trying regularly to see how 88 00:05:21,945 --> 00:05:26,145 Speaker 1: I can incorporate what I have been brought up, not 89 00:05:26,425 --> 00:05:31,265 Speaker 1: into medicine, but helping and guiding people in their lifestyle 90 00:05:31,465 --> 00:05:35,025 Speaker 1: through the lifestyle changes. Because we can treat problem, but 91 00:05:35,065 --> 00:05:37,985 Speaker 1: then while the problem is sorted, then we need to maintain. 92 00:05:38,665 --> 00:05:40,305 Speaker 1: That's where I'm looking at, Tanya. 93 00:05:40,345 --> 00:05:42,945 Speaker 2: It's just so interesting hearing you say this, because I 94 00:05:43,065 --> 00:05:45,825 Speaker 2: have a lot of Indian friends that have grown up 95 00:05:46,185 --> 00:05:49,225 Speaker 2: with the scalp oiling and that's something that they've just 96 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:52,185 Speaker 2: done their whole lives. And then when you look at 97 00:05:52,225 --> 00:05:54,865 Speaker 2: all of these TikTok trends, it's kind of almost been 98 00:05:54,905 --> 00:05:58,345 Speaker 2: rebranded into something new, and then you know you've got 99 00:05:58,385 --> 00:06:00,385 Speaker 2: people being like, oh, what's this, I've never heard of 100 00:06:00,385 --> 00:06:04,065 Speaker 2: this before, And then you've obviously got such a cultural 101 00:06:04,105 --> 00:06:06,585 Speaker 2: aspect to these practices. Can you tell me a little 102 00:06:06,585 --> 00:06:07,225 Speaker 2: bit about that. 103 00:06:07,625 --> 00:06:11,745 Speaker 1: It's second nature to us. Really, I almost feel a 104 00:06:11,785 --> 00:06:16,185 Speaker 1: bit uncomfortable if I actually have a you know, shower 105 00:06:16,265 --> 00:06:19,745 Speaker 1: without like my hair, wash my hair without oiling it, 106 00:06:19,905 --> 00:06:22,825 Speaker 1: because I feel that I'm not doing my scarp the 107 00:06:22,945 --> 00:06:27,465 Speaker 1: justice of moisturizing it. So it's just being so much 108 00:06:27,585 --> 00:06:32,265 Speaker 1: of a common practice that just comes automatically and second nature. 109 00:06:32,385 --> 00:06:36,345 Speaker 1: It's common knowledge. If there's hair fall, you suddenly think, oh, 110 00:06:36,505 --> 00:06:39,705 Speaker 1: have I not been oiling enough? Have I skipped the massage? 111 00:06:39,865 --> 00:06:42,265 Speaker 1: So it's just like when you rule out certain things 112 00:06:42,505 --> 00:06:44,905 Speaker 1: that would be like the top thing that you think of. 113 00:06:45,545 --> 00:06:48,825 Speaker 1: Those are things that is very natural. So when you 114 00:06:49,025 --> 00:06:52,065 Speaker 1: grow up in a culture like that and you see 115 00:06:52,105 --> 00:06:55,905 Speaker 1: everyone doing the same, you're not thinking that this is unusual. 116 00:06:56,185 --> 00:06:59,785 Speaker 1: Your cousins do the same, your friends do the same. 117 00:07:00,185 --> 00:07:03,625 Speaker 1: That's growing up then moving from India where I thought 118 00:07:03,665 --> 00:07:07,585 Speaker 1: everything was normal, that everyone used the oiling. Then when 119 00:07:07,585 --> 00:07:10,185 Speaker 1: I went to England and I was in the hospitalcommodation, 120 00:07:10,545 --> 00:07:12,745 Speaker 1: so it was very normal to me that I apply 121 00:07:12,945 --> 00:07:15,905 Speaker 1: oil and massage didn't And then I would actually go 122 00:07:16,025 --> 00:07:19,145 Speaker 1: to the common kitchen to do cooking and I didn't 123 00:07:19,185 --> 00:07:21,145 Speaker 1: think it was looking weird because I thought this is 124 00:07:21,185 --> 00:07:23,425 Speaker 1: just normal. You know, that's what you normally do. You 125 00:07:23,465 --> 00:07:26,625 Speaker 1: apply oil, you leave it on in a bond, and 126 00:07:26,665 --> 00:07:29,585 Speaker 1: then have your showl. So then I had people looking 127 00:07:29,625 --> 00:07:32,665 Speaker 1: at me like, it looks like it's cow licked, you know, 128 00:07:32,865 --> 00:07:37,425 Speaker 1: very it's very greasy. And then I started realizing, actually, 129 00:07:38,305 --> 00:07:41,505 Speaker 1: there's something wrong. And then I realize it's what we 130 00:07:41,665 --> 00:07:45,985 Speaker 1: do is not it's not a common practice. And then 131 00:07:46,345 --> 00:07:49,945 Speaker 1: when people worry about their hair loss and hair fall, 132 00:07:50,545 --> 00:07:54,185 Speaker 1: then from that experience, I realized that one of the 133 00:07:54,305 --> 00:07:59,065 Speaker 1: key problem is of dry hair and dry scalp and 134 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:02,865 Speaker 1: people hence lose your hair because they lax nutrients and 135 00:08:02,905 --> 00:08:05,865 Speaker 1: they're using their hair sprays. We have a lot of 136 00:08:05,905 --> 00:08:09,985 Speaker 1: hair products traitening all those sorts of jazz, but we 137 00:08:10,065 --> 00:08:14,225 Speaker 1: are not doing enough to counter that problem. So yes, 138 00:08:14,465 --> 00:08:16,185 Speaker 1: that's basically my observation. 139 00:08:16,825 --> 00:08:20,265 Speaker 2: I'm in that dry scalp camp. So I feel like 140 00:08:20,305 --> 00:08:22,545 Speaker 2: I could take a lot of tips from you and 141 00:08:22,625 --> 00:08:24,945 Speaker 2: learn a lot from you. Tell me a little bit 142 00:08:24,985 --> 00:08:28,425 Speaker 2: about your actual scalp oiling routine that you do. 143 00:08:28,785 --> 00:08:32,865 Speaker 1: Now, Now what I do is I have my hair sidum. 144 00:08:33,105 --> 00:08:36,825 Speaker 1: I use that, so that has a hollybaseil and it 145 00:08:36,945 --> 00:08:41,065 Speaker 1: has got the MCT. So I use the drop a 146 00:08:41,065 --> 00:08:45,145 Speaker 1: bottle and I apply on my scalp. So I take 147 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:48,385 Speaker 1: parts and then I apply through the dropper and then 148 00:08:48,385 --> 00:08:52,025 Speaker 1: i'm masagittate. The reason I'm using that now as supposed 149 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:54,825 Speaker 1: to like the commercial oil, is because I can leave 150 00:08:54,865 --> 00:08:58,265 Speaker 1: it all night and it doesn't stain like my pillows 151 00:08:58,305 --> 00:09:00,865 Speaker 1: and stuff. In the morning I can wash, or even 152 00:09:00,905 --> 00:09:04,225 Speaker 1: if I leave it and I wash the next evening, 153 00:09:04,305 --> 00:09:08,145 Speaker 1: it's fine. And also it's got the hollybasil, which really 154 00:09:08,225 --> 00:09:11,785 Speaker 1: is super drug for my scalp. So that's my routine. 155 00:09:11,825 --> 00:09:14,385 Speaker 1: And once I apply, I make sure I do some 156 00:09:14,545 --> 00:09:18,265 Speaker 1: massage like I'm massaged in so the scalp is then 157 00:09:18,305 --> 00:09:21,065 Speaker 1: taken care of. The scalp is an extension of the face, 158 00:09:21,585 --> 00:09:24,425 Speaker 1: it's a scale extend, so you need to look after 159 00:09:24,465 --> 00:09:27,665 Speaker 1: the scalp and that's where the life is, so basically 160 00:09:28,145 --> 00:09:30,985 Speaker 1: giving it a good massage, making sure it spread evenly, 161 00:09:31,465 --> 00:09:35,905 Speaker 1: and then the rest I run throughout my body of 162 00:09:35,945 --> 00:09:39,705 Speaker 1: my hair, not forgetting the tip, so that's really really important. 163 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:42,345 Speaker 1: Tip's important because that's where the split tents and stuff, 164 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:45,625 Speaker 1: and of course the shaft of the hair because otherwise 165 00:09:45,705 --> 00:09:49,025 Speaker 1: you will have like a breakages and stuff. But if 166 00:09:49,065 --> 00:09:52,465 Speaker 1: I'm going to be really like in a mood to 167 00:09:52,505 --> 00:09:56,785 Speaker 1: look after my hair, so I will apply the oil, 168 00:09:57,465 --> 00:10:01,185 Speaker 1: I will massage it in and then I would steam 169 00:10:01,785 --> 00:10:06,305 Speaker 1: like I just get a towel in warm water, I'll 170 00:10:06,385 --> 00:10:08,665 Speaker 1: dip it, I rinse it, and then I place so 171 00:10:09,345 --> 00:10:12,545 Speaker 1: again and it helps with penetration of the oils and 172 00:10:12,665 --> 00:10:16,505 Speaker 1: nutrients like the holly basil to go through muscap. That's 173 00:10:16,505 --> 00:10:19,425 Speaker 1: something that I would do if I've got the luxury 174 00:10:19,425 --> 00:10:22,025 Speaker 1: of time and I really want to like get on 175 00:10:22,145 --> 00:10:24,665 Speaker 1: top of my hair care routine. That's what I do. 176 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,505 Speaker 2: You just gave me so many great tips there. Just 177 00:10:27,545 --> 00:10:31,665 Speaker 2: looking at your hair is glorious. It's long, it's Chinese gorgeous. 178 00:10:31,785 --> 00:10:33,545 Speaker 2: So you're obviously doing something right. 179 00:10:33,745 --> 00:10:35,945 Speaker 1: And I'm forty plus, so it's not bad. 180 00:10:43,425 --> 00:10:45,945 Speaker 2: I want to move right into the products. Walk me 181 00:10:45,985 --> 00:10:48,785 Speaker 2: through some of the beauty products that Indian women are 182 00:10:48,825 --> 00:10:49,705 Speaker 2: loving right now. 183 00:10:50,145 --> 00:10:53,825 Speaker 1: Whatever we practice, it's some ancient medicines that's been fast 184 00:10:53,865 --> 00:10:57,705 Speaker 1: from generations after generations. If you have a problem, you 185 00:10:57,745 --> 00:11:01,745 Speaker 1: would ask your mom or your grandma or your arms, 186 00:11:02,145 --> 00:11:05,425 Speaker 1: because they have solution to everything. It's not because they 187 00:11:05,465 --> 00:11:08,425 Speaker 1: have done medicine. It's because it's what's been passed from 188 00:11:08,625 --> 00:11:12,945 Speaker 1: you know, like center. So top ingredients I would say 189 00:11:12,945 --> 00:11:15,785 Speaker 1: first as holibaseil, which is my absolute favorite because it's 190 00:11:15,785 --> 00:11:18,985 Speaker 1: the most potent super drug and it's queen of herbs 191 00:11:19,305 --> 00:11:22,265 Speaker 1: that can be used for the face, the head, as 192 00:11:22,265 --> 00:11:25,625 Speaker 1: a tea, you name it. Every part of the plant 193 00:11:25,985 --> 00:11:28,905 Speaker 1: is being used for a different things. So that's my top. 194 00:11:29,865 --> 00:11:33,425 Speaker 1: The other one that I would say is turmeric. It's 195 00:11:33,505 --> 00:11:39,625 Speaker 1: an anti door, it's an anti inflammatory product, antibacteria. Cocon 196 00:11:39,705 --> 00:11:44,785 Speaker 1: it oil, absolute go to, absolute favorite for every Indian. 197 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:49,025 Speaker 1: You know, we can add things, but these are like 198 00:11:49,105 --> 00:11:54,625 Speaker 1: the absolute foundation. Then there's a clay I called multani 199 00:11:54,985 --> 00:11:59,945 Speaker 1: multanimity masks from through multanimity and to that that's a base, 200 00:12:00,305 --> 00:12:04,745 Speaker 1: and we add like turmery, yogurt, whatever you know, according 201 00:12:04,745 --> 00:12:08,025 Speaker 1: to your imagine, you can blend and that's your face mask. 202 00:12:08,265 --> 00:12:12,825 Speaker 1: So these are things that women have been using for years. 203 00:12:12,865 --> 00:12:15,225 Speaker 1: And sandalwood will is an absolute go to. 204 00:12:15,545 --> 00:12:18,225 Speaker 2: Would these be ingredients that you've grown up using in 205 00:12:18,265 --> 00:12:20,745 Speaker 2: your skincare routine? 206 00:12:21,185 --> 00:12:23,345 Speaker 1: This is like a norm this you would always have 207 00:12:23,425 --> 00:12:26,025 Speaker 1: that and to add to that, you know, the expoliation 208 00:12:26,705 --> 00:12:29,905 Speaker 1: has been an always a must do thing for us 209 00:12:29,945 --> 00:12:35,705 Speaker 1: Indian and that expoliation is either by chickpea flow and 210 00:12:35,825 --> 00:12:39,145 Speaker 1: that's what we normally use. We were always against using 211 00:12:39,345 --> 00:12:40,225 Speaker 1: soap on our face. 212 00:12:41,145 --> 00:12:42,745 Speaker 2: I think that's that's probably a good thing. 213 00:12:43,425 --> 00:12:44,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 214 00:12:45,185 --> 00:12:47,785 Speaker 2: Tell me about some of these ingredients you've mentioned, for example, 215 00:12:47,865 --> 00:12:51,665 Speaker 2: sandal would like are these ingredients used raw, like sandal wood? 216 00:12:51,705 --> 00:12:53,825 Speaker 2: Would that be like a raw ingredient that you would 217 00:12:53,905 --> 00:12:56,625 Speaker 2: use no through the face back, okay. 218 00:12:56,905 --> 00:12:59,905 Speaker 1: Use it through the face pack of the multanimity, or 219 00:13:00,025 --> 00:13:03,345 Speaker 1: you would use like diffused in oil. So those sort 220 00:13:03,385 --> 00:13:07,545 Speaker 1: of things. These days, sandalwood is very hard to you know, 221 00:13:07,625 --> 00:13:10,065 Speaker 1: get so, yeah, when I'm talking sandal wood, you're not 222 00:13:10,105 --> 00:13:13,225 Speaker 1: talking about a big chunk of sizes. This is another 223 00:13:13,385 --> 00:13:18,025 Speaker 1: very important thing in Nawati practice. Proportion is important. There's 224 00:13:18,065 --> 00:13:22,625 Speaker 1: always like proportion. You don't over just because something works. 225 00:13:22,665 --> 00:13:25,985 Speaker 1: You don't overdo it because if you do, that's affect 226 00:13:26,065 --> 00:13:27,865 Speaker 1: your the balance of your body. 227 00:13:28,145 --> 00:13:30,905 Speaker 2: So, just to go back to what you were saying before, 228 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:34,025 Speaker 2: so you basically mix is there a specific yogurt or 229 00:13:34,305 --> 00:13:37,785 Speaker 2: so you just mix yogurt with maultany meaty clay and 230 00:13:37,825 --> 00:13:41,305 Speaker 2: then the oils and it turns into that kind of 231 00:13:41,345 --> 00:13:44,025 Speaker 2: type of face mask. Yeah, and then does it kind 232 00:13:44,025 --> 00:13:45,665 Speaker 2: of harden and then you wash it off? 233 00:13:46,305 --> 00:13:47,065 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. 234 00:13:47,145 --> 00:13:49,385 Speaker 2: I'm getting into the nitty gritty details because I need 235 00:13:49,385 --> 00:13:50,945 Speaker 2: to know exactly how to do this. 236 00:13:51,225 --> 00:13:54,945 Speaker 1: Maybe I should actually one show. I should actually make 237 00:13:54,985 --> 00:13:56,345 Speaker 1: it then apply show you. 238 00:13:56,585 --> 00:14:00,505 Speaker 2: Oh Di, why get in the beauty studio and we'll 239 00:14:00,505 --> 00:14:02,625 Speaker 2: have to do that. Tell me a little bit about 240 00:14:02,905 --> 00:14:05,945 Speaker 2: specific beauty products that might be available on the market 241 00:14:06,065 --> 00:14:09,905 Speaker 2: right now that kind of include these ingredients or are 242 00:14:09,945 --> 00:14:13,185 Speaker 2: they all kind of diy at home ingredients? 243 00:14:13,585 --> 00:14:16,785 Speaker 1: Like everything that I said is easily available, everyone can 244 00:14:16,825 --> 00:14:20,345 Speaker 1: access it. And that's the beauty of Indian skin care. 245 00:14:20,825 --> 00:14:24,305 Speaker 1: Everything is actually made for humans that you know, you 246 00:14:24,345 --> 00:14:28,745 Speaker 1: can live in harmony with nature. It's not difficult to access. 247 00:14:28,785 --> 00:14:32,025 Speaker 1: So skin care and you know skin routine and look 248 00:14:32,025 --> 00:14:36,385 Speaker 1: health routine. It's for everyone and everyone regardless how much 249 00:14:36,545 --> 00:14:39,545 Speaker 1: rich or poor you are. It doesn't matter because tumeric 250 00:14:39,665 --> 00:14:43,705 Speaker 1: is readily available, yogurt is really available, multanimity is like 251 00:14:44,185 --> 00:14:48,785 Speaker 1: easily available. Oil is easily available, so it can blend 252 00:14:48,865 --> 00:14:53,425 Speaker 1: into a lifestyle of everyone. It's self care has actually 253 00:14:53,425 --> 00:14:56,665 Speaker 1: given a lot of importance. Looking after yourself is not 254 00:14:56,945 --> 00:15:01,945 Speaker 1: selfish in the culture either, because it's just a normal practice, 255 00:15:02,105 --> 00:15:06,425 Speaker 1: so commercially available. So that's really the reason I started 256 00:15:06,465 --> 00:15:09,105 Speaker 1: my brand, because I wanted to make sure, like holly 257 00:15:09,145 --> 00:15:11,345 Speaker 1: basil is that increed in that I would talk about, 258 00:15:11,625 --> 00:15:15,825 Speaker 1: to make it more readily available and accessible, because hey, 259 00:15:15,865 --> 00:15:19,385 Speaker 1: we can't all grow holy basil plant in our you know, 260 00:15:19,505 --> 00:15:22,785 Speaker 1: backyard turmeric you can buy, but holy basil oil it's 261 00:15:22,825 --> 00:15:26,465 Speaker 1: not easy to actually have. We basically pluck the plant 262 00:15:26,745 --> 00:15:29,945 Speaker 1: leaves and then infuse it. You know, I've seen my 263 00:15:30,065 --> 00:15:33,665 Speaker 1: mom do it all the time, like infusing the oil 264 00:15:33,865 --> 00:15:36,465 Speaker 1: or water and you know, keep it overnight and is 265 00:15:36,465 --> 00:15:39,945 Speaker 1: a process. So for us Western in our western world 266 00:15:40,025 --> 00:15:42,905 Speaker 1: that we need we are even including me, I don't 267 00:15:42,905 --> 00:15:45,265 Speaker 1: have the luxury of time to make the mixture and 268 00:15:45,305 --> 00:15:48,705 Speaker 1: apply and let it dry and taking it off. So 269 00:15:48,865 --> 00:15:52,025 Speaker 1: basically being a mom, I wanted to bring the same 270 00:15:52,145 --> 00:15:55,865 Speaker 1: level of lifestyle and the quality infreedance in a bottle. 271 00:15:55,945 --> 00:15:59,265 Speaker 1: So may it be like face oil. For instance, I've 272 00:15:59,305 --> 00:16:01,945 Speaker 1: got the hair sidum and the face sidum, so that 273 00:16:02,265 --> 00:16:05,825 Speaker 1: is MCT oil. It's got a Kakai which is Amazonian 274 00:16:05,905 --> 00:16:09,145 Speaker 1: forest super drug. And the Holy Basil in that because 275 00:16:09,145 --> 00:16:12,825 Speaker 1: that is the closest I feel that I'm in India 276 00:16:13,265 --> 00:16:17,745 Speaker 1: and closest possible way that I can live the same lifestyle. 277 00:16:18,145 --> 00:16:20,705 Speaker 1: And it's easy for me to carry anywhere because I 278 00:16:20,785 --> 00:16:23,465 Speaker 1: travel a lot. So that's my skin care in a 279 00:16:23,545 --> 00:16:27,105 Speaker 1: bottle as my one go to and skin care in 280 00:16:27,145 --> 00:16:31,745 Speaker 1: our culture, like Indian culture, it is not limited just 281 00:16:32,145 --> 00:16:35,745 Speaker 1: to like apply stuff on your face. It is your lifestyle, 282 00:16:36,265 --> 00:16:40,505 Speaker 1: it is the food you eat, it is your stress levels, 283 00:16:40,785 --> 00:16:43,225 Speaker 1: that's the yoga, the whole thing. So it's a more 284 00:16:43,265 --> 00:16:46,145 Speaker 1: holistic way of looking at skincare. 285 00:16:46,545 --> 00:16:49,505 Speaker 2: I love that. I think it's so interesting to hear 286 00:16:49,625 --> 00:16:52,185 Speaker 2: how not only are so many of these products so 287 00:16:52,385 --> 00:16:56,665 Speaker 2: multi purpose, multifunctional, but as well that aspect of you know, 288 00:16:56,745 --> 00:16:59,785 Speaker 2: holistic wellness. It's not just your skin care routine. It's 289 00:16:59,825 --> 00:17:03,065 Speaker 2: impacting so many different things. You touch a little bit 290 00:17:03,145 --> 00:17:07,265 Speaker 2: on some kind of skincare trends that women enjoy in India, 291 00:17:07,305 --> 00:17:09,625 Speaker 2: Could you tell me a little bit more about any 292 00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:11,265 Speaker 2: are the specific trends? 293 00:17:11,705 --> 00:17:17,145 Speaker 1: Yes, like something that I always find in most Indian 294 00:17:17,185 --> 00:17:19,945 Speaker 1: household even now when I go, when I visit my 295 00:17:20,025 --> 00:17:24,105 Speaker 1: families and friends, is this root plant. It's called victiva 296 00:17:24,545 --> 00:17:28,105 Speaker 1: and it's spelled we E t I v e R. 297 00:17:28,385 --> 00:17:32,505 Speaker 1: It's absolutely divine. It's I mean to me, I love 298 00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:35,625 Speaker 1: that it's it just feels like you're in a spar 299 00:17:36,265 --> 00:17:40,265 Speaker 1: you know, it's so good. So it's this root of 300 00:17:40,305 --> 00:17:46,505 Speaker 1: this plant that's used for all over bodies scrubbing. These days, 301 00:17:46,625 --> 00:17:48,985 Speaker 1: it can be it may be a bit more commercialized 302 00:17:49,385 --> 00:17:53,305 Speaker 1: because you can see get it in like perfect shapes before. 303 00:17:53,345 --> 00:17:55,305 Speaker 1: But when we were growing up, it wasn't like in 304 00:17:55,385 --> 00:17:59,265 Speaker 1: all perfect shape. But it's there in every bathroom because 305 00:17:59,705 --> 00:18:03,545 Speaker 1: scrubbing an exfoliation is a routine thing. I think the 306 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:07,545 Speaker 1: ancient people knew it better than us. Like if you 307 00:18:07,585 --> 00:18:10,905 Speaker 1: look at different cultures, whether it's Indian culture, that's Egyptian culture, 308 00:18:10,945 --> 00:18:16,185 Speaker 1: where there's Romanian culture, the only the ancient practices expoliation 309 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:20,865 Speaker 1: is always even Cleopatra uses the milk galactic acid for expolation. 310 00:18:20,945 --> 00:18:24,705 Speaker 1: It's just been there. But somehow, you know, we've made 311 00:18:24,745 --> 00:18:29,385 Speaker 1: everything into bottles and we lost what the power of 312 00:18:29,505 --> 00:18:33,825 Speaker 1: expoliation could do to our body, and not just the face, 313 00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:35,545 Speaker 1: but all over the body scrubbing. 314 00:18:35,745 --> 00:18:38,625 Speaker 2: It's actually so interesting that you said that about the 315 00:18:38,705 --> 00:18:41,945 Speaker 2: root and you know the ancient beauty trends because when 316 00:18:41,985 --> 00:18:45,225 Speaker 2: I was recently in Peru, there's actually a plant root 317 00:18:45,305 --> 00:18:47,745 Speaker 2: that they use on their hair. They use it for, 318 00:18:47,985 --> 00:18:51,105 Speaker 2: you know, washing their hair. None of the women, the 319 00:18:51,145 --> 00:18:54,105 Speaker 2: ancient women there, have any grays. All the hair are 320 00:18:54,145 --> 00:18:57,625 Speaker 2: completely like jet black. They've got no grays and all 321 00:18:57,665 --> 00:19:00,465 Speaker 2: they use is that plant root. When I was over there, 322 00:19:00,465 --> 00:19:02,505 Speaker 2: I was like, how do I bring that into Australia. 323 00:19:03,345 --> 00:19:06,425 Speaker 2: Unfortunately cannot, but they were like, yeah, you just actually 324 00:19:06,465 --> 00:19:08,585 Speaker 2: have to use that plant root. But it's just amazing 325 00:19:08,665 --> 00:19:12,145 Speaker 2: the ancient practices that are now used today, but also 326 00:19:12,225 --> 00:19:14,305 Speaker 2: that I've kind of forgotten about as well now that 327 00:19:14,345 --> 00:19:16,745 Speaker 2: we've kind of moved in as you said, to like borowing. 328 00:19:16,945 --> 00:19:20,745 Speaker 1: Apparently it cools your body as well, that plant. Kings 329 00:19:20,785 --> 00:19:24,545 Speaker 1: and the queens and noble people, the aristocrats. If you 330 00:19:24,545 --> 00:19:27,305 Speaker 1: go to their like you know in museums, you'd see 331 00:19:27,345 --> 00:19:30,585 Speaker 1: the root can go to like a fan, you know, 332 00:19:30,705 --> 00:19:34,865 Speaker 1: the servants will have this fanning all night for them 333 00:19:34,905 --> 00:19:46,105 Speaker 1: to sleep in summer. Hit You've made one of the 334 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:47,825 Speaker 1: greatest discoveries. 335 00:19:47,265 --> 00:19:52,745 Speaker 2: Of all time or miss never again never I want 336 00:19:52,905 --> 00:19:56,385 Speaker 2: to ask you for a skincare technique or ingredient that 337 00:19:56,425 --> 00:19:59,785 Speaker 2: you love and one that you think is overrated. 338 00:20:00,025 --> 00:20:04,305 Speaker 1: So what I love is one hundred percent the power 339 00:20:04,345 --> 00:20:09,505 Speaker 1: of oil, the power of hydration through oiling, not only 340 00:20:09,545 --> 00:20:12,865 Speaker 1: the face, looking after the scalp and the body, and 341 00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:17,585 Speaker 1: the massaging massage of head massage, whether it's face and 342 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:20,265 Speaker 1: all of our body. I think that's really very important. 343 00:20:20,825 --> 00:20:24,265 Speaker 1: What I think is overrated is like Korean glasskin. 344 00:20:24,745 --> 00:20:25,425 Speaker 2: Tell me more. 345 00:20:26,305 --> 00:20:29,425 Speaker 1: The reason I'm actually I have a problem with this 346 00:20:29,505 --> 00:20:33,865 Speaker 1: is because I see a lot of girls and youngsters 347 00:20:33,905 --> 00:20:38,105 Speaker 1: struggling with that because they want to achieve Korean glasking, 348 00:20:38,705 --> 00:20:42,105 Speaker 1: but we are not Koreans. We won't have Korean glaskin, 349 00:20:42,185 --> 00:20:44,185 Speaker 1: you know. And it's so hard for me to like 350 00:20:45,305 --> 00:20:49,025 Speaker 1: explain to them it's fine, you're having your period, you 351 00:20:49,105 --> 00:20:51,305 Speaker 1: are having acne, and this is. 352 00:20:51,345 --> 00:20:54,025 Speaker 2: Not I think it's so true because you see these 353 00:20:54,105 --> 00:20:57,345 Speaker 2: kind of like pawless images, and you know, these k 354 00:20:57,545 --> 00:21:00,025 Speaker 2: beauty products that are supposed to make you get skin 355 00:21:00,145 --> 00:21:04,225 Speaker 2: exactly like that, and you see it everywhere, and obviously, 356 00:21:04,265 --> 00:21:06,705 Speaker 2: as you said, that's not real life. Everyone has pause, 357 00:21:07,305 --> 00:21:10,065 Speaker 2: everyone's goes through cycles like. 358 00:21:10,065 --> 00:21:12,905 Speaker 1: Yours and mine, and your skin is different, and we 359 00:21:12,985 --> 00:21:15,385 Speaker 1: try to put everything on the one and we all 360 00:21:15,425 --> 00:21:17,665 Speaker 1: want you know, people are trying to achieve the Kreent 361 00:21:17,785 --> 00:21:21,625 Speaker 1: glass and then that itself causes them distress and they're 362 00:21:21,785 --> 00:21:25,905 Speaker 1: sad and insecurities. They look at all this you know model, 363 00:21:26,625 --> 00:21:29,225 Speaker 1: so that I think is a bit a bit too much. 364 00:21:29,665 --> 00:21:32,545 Speaker 2: Definitely another one of those unattainable beauty trends that we 365 00:21:32,665 --> 00:21:35,585 Speaker 2: really don't need in our lives. Tanya, thank you so 366 00:21:35,705 --> 00:21:38,745 Speaker 2: much for joining us and giving us a rundown on 367 00:21:39,145 --> 00:21:44,105 Speaker 2: your amazing background, the Indian beauty practices that you know, 368 00:21:44,265 --> 00:21:47,705 Speaker 2: you've inspired me to actually kind of look after my scalp. 369 00:21:47,785 --> 00:21:51,305 Speaker 2: Better not have a dry its you scalp. So thank 370 00:21:51,305 --> 00:21:53,665 Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. 371 00:21:54,145 --> 00:21:56,505 Speaker 1: Yes, sure, I'd love to maybe one day come and 372 00:21:56,545 --> 00:21:57,385 Speaker 1: make them all time. 373 00:21:57,305 --> 00:22:00,145 Speaker 2: You please do I need to get that on my face. 374 00:22:00,225 --> 00:22:01,385 Speaker 2: We need to get you in here. 375 00:22:01,665 --> 00:22:03,345 Speaker 1: I will surely promise we'll do that. 376 00:22:05,025 --> 00:22:07,185 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show today. 377 00:22:07,425 --> 00:22:10,705 Speaker 2: Doctor Tania was an absolute wealthy knowledge. I hope you 378 00:22:10,745 --> 00:22:12,865 Speaker 2: love the show as much as I did. If you 379 00:22:13,025 --> 00:22:15,185 Speaker 2: have a topic you want me to talk about, hit 380 00:22:15,305 --> 00:22:17,745 Speaker 2: up the you Beauty Facebook group. We would love to 381 00:22:17,745 --> 00:22:21,545 Speaker 2: hear from You. The producer of You Beauty is Cassie Merritt, 382 00:22:21,545 --> 00:22:24,425 Speaker 2: with audio production by Lou Hill. And I'll catch you 383 00:22:24,425 --> 00:22:26,945 Speaker 2: next Tuesday for another skincare deep dive. 384 00:22:27,145 --> 00:22:37,385 Speaker 1: Bye.