1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:20,233 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast from Mama Mia. Welcome 2 00:00:20,233 --> 00:00:23,073 Speaker 1: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 3 00:00:23,074 --> 00:00:26,314 Speaker 1: Brodneck and today I'm joined by free Player. I'm the 4 00:00:26,354 --> 00:00:30,914 Speaker 1: executive producer of Mama MIA's interview podcast, No Filter, and 5 00:00:31,314 --> 00:00:33,274 Speaker 1: I'm just a bit of a pop culture chunky. You've 6 00:00:33,274 --> 00:00:35,754 Speaker 1: been around for a long time working women's mags, and 7 00:00:35,833 --> 00:00:38,954 Speaker 1: I love the music industry, so today is an exciting day. Yes, 8 00:00:39,034 --> 00:00:41,513 Speaker 1: you are our music insider. You know everything about the 9 00:00:41,513 --> 00:00:43,993 Speaker 1: pop girls and guys and people, which is one of 10 00:00:43,994 --> 00:00:45,673 Speaker 1: the well, one of the many reasons we have you 11 00:00:45,714 --> 00:00:48,274 Speaker 1: on today because it is Grammy is the red carpet 12 00:00:48,314 --> 00:00:51,114 Speaker 1: is still happening as we speak, but he's literally looking 13 00:00:51,153 --> 00:00:53,233 Speaker 1: at her laptop telling people to walk faster down the 14 00:00:53,233 --> 00:00:55,874 Speaker 1: red carpet so I can see the rest of their outfits. 15 00:00:55,954 --> 00:00:57,594 Speaker 1: So coming up on the show today, we're going to 16 00:00:57,674 --> 00:01:00,874 Speaker 1: do best and worst looks from the Grammy's Red Carpet. Worst, 17 00:01:00,874 --> 00:01:03,874 Speaker 1: we say, with love, we just have some weird vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 18 00:01:03,954 --> 00:01:06,714 Speaker 1: with love of course. Plus, if you can imagine, there's 19 00:01:06,754 --> 00:01:10,794 Speaker 1: even more Beckham family drama. Some ex girlfriends of Brooklyn 20 00:01:10,874 --> 00:01:15,074 Speaker 1: Beckham have given interviews. Some people connected to Nicola Peltz 21 00:01:15,114 --> 00:01:18,474 Speaker 1: have come out, one famous sibling in particular. The story 22 00:01:18,554 --> 00:01:20,634 Speaker 1: is evolving and changing, so we're getting it into that. 23 00:01:20,994 --> 00:01:24,554 Speaker 1: But first up, some very sad news happened over the weekend, 24 00:01:24,994 --> 00:01:28,354 Speaker 1: and that was the death of legendary actress and comedian 25 00:01:28,474 --> 00:01:32,034 Speaker 1: Catherine O'Hara, who sadly passed away at the age of 26 00:01:32,074 --> 00:01:35,674 Speaker 1: seventy one, which seventy young feels young. Yeah, it does 27 00:01:35,714 --> 00:01:37,994 Speaker 1: feel young. And also she's been active. It's not like 28 00:01:38,074 --> 00:01:40,354 Speaker 1: she's been out of the spotlight for a long time. 29 00:01:40,474 --> 00:01:44,314 Speaker 1: And we've heard this news like Beatlejuice only came out 30 00:01:44,394 --> 00:01:46,594 Speaker 1: what was it last year, yeah, film, so she was 31 00:01:46,634 --> 00:01:50,714 Speaker 1: in that. We saw her the presentation of Macaulay Carlcon 32 00:01:50,754 --> 00:01:52,914 Speaker 1: getting his star on the Walk of Fame. Only in 33 00:01:52,954 --> 00:01:55,234 Speaker 1: the last few years, like you know, she's been out 34 00:01:55,274 --> 00:01:58,074 Speaker 1: and about. She's just been under award shows recently, exactly 35 00:01:58,154 --> 00:02:00,594 Speaker 1: a red carpet. She's been out and about at events. 36 00:02:00,714 --> 00:02:02,714 Speaker 1: I mean again, those some actors who when they get 37 00:02:02,714 --> 00:02:04,834 Speaker 1: older and go into ill health sometimes step away from 38 00:02:04,834 --> 00:02:06,794 Speaker 1: the spotlight. But I think it was shocking to a 39 00:02:06,834 --> 00:02:09,114 Speaker 1: lot of people because we've just seen her on Red carpets. 40 00:02:09,114 --> 00:02:11,794 Speaker 1: We've seen her doing press. She's on the Studio, which 41 00:02:11,874 --> 00:02:13,954 Speaker 1: is just one a bunch of awards, namely at the 42 00:02:13,954 --> 00:02:17,194 Speaker 1: Golden Globe. Exact, she was supposed to be filming season 43 00:02:17,234 --> 00:02:19,633 Speaker 1: two of the Studios, so she was booked and busy, 44 00:02:19,914 --> 00:02:21,714 Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons why the studio team 45 00:02:21,754 --> 00:02:23,434 Speaker 1: has like all about out of their press day they 46 00:02:23,474 --> 00:02:25,634 Speaker 1: were supposed to be having this week, which is fair enough. Yes, 47 00:02:25,754 --> 00:02:28,114 Speaker 1: of course, she was such a huge part of that show. 48 00:02:28,634 --> 00:02:31,754 Speaker 1: And it's kind of interesting too and like beautiful in 49 00:02:31,794 --> 00:02:34,554 Speaker 1: a way to see the outpouring of love from people 50 00:02:35,194 --> 00:02:37,594 Speaker 1: fans and people who loved her work over the weekend, 51 00:02:37,674 --> 00:02:40,034 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of us remember her from 52 00:02:40,074 --> 00:02:42,514 Speaker 1: our childhoods, from the Home Alone movies and like what 53 00:02:42,594 --> 00:02:45,154 Speaker 1: a community genius she is, which is like we get 54 00:02:45,154 --> 00:02:47,834 Speaker 1: to see her every Christmas because everyone does a rewatch 55 00:02:47,874 --> 00:02:50,074 Speaker 1: of Home Alone at Christmas, and you know, she's in 56 00:02:50,114 --> 00:02:52,554 Speaker 1: both the first and second Home Alone films. They're iconic 57 00:02:52,634 --> 00:02:55,633 Speaker 1: Christmas film so it's like she's part of our families 58 00:02:55,714 --> 00:02:58,474 Speaker 1: Christmas in my household and I'm sure in yours. Yeah, 59 00:02:58,674 --> 00:03:00,834 Speaker 1: just I remember just growing up on those movies and 60 00:03:00,874 --> 00:03:02,994 Speaker 1: like as I got older, realizing like, not only is 61 00:03:03,034 --> 00:03:06,034 Speaker 1: she hilarious as an actress, but also such a good 62 00:03:06,114 --> 00:03:08,634 Speaker 1: dramatic actress. That's one of the reasons people love that 63 00:03:08,714 --> 00:03:11,274 Speaker 1: movie is and there's such especially in the first one 64 00:03:11,274 --> 00:03:12,874 Speaker 1: when she's trying to get home and she and John 65 00:03:12,914 --> 00:03:17,234 Speaker 1: Candy are doing those scenes together, which improvised is what 66 00:03:17,274 --> 00:03:20,674 Speaker 1: I've been reading. Yeah, which is just like, I mean, amazing, 67 00:03:20,794 --> 00:03:24,474 Speaker 1: both two incredible, incredible actors. Yeah, it's interesting what you 68 00:03:24,474 --> 00:03:26,634 Speaker 1: said about her being such a big part of every 69 00:03:26,674 --> 00:03:29,434 Speaker 1: project she's done, and it's true, like even if her 70 00:03:29,554 --> 00:03:32,994 Speaker 1: role isn't the lead in something, she's still the one 71 00:03:33,034 --> 00:03:36,634 Speaker 1: that you walk away from thinking she was incredible. Yeah, exactly. 72 00:03:36,674 --> 00:03:39,354 Speaker 1: And there's Yeah, she's got such a huge ba caalog 73 00:03:39,434 --> 00:03:42,074 Speaker 1: of films and TV shows, and I think the thing 74 00:03:42,074 --> 00:03:43,914 Speaker 1: that was coming through from all of her co stars 75 00:03:43,994 --> 00:03:45,954 Speaker 1: was not just talking about her work, but what she 76 00:03:46,074 --> 00:03:48,074 Speaker 1: meant to them on a personal level. And I think 77 00:03:48,114 --> 00:03:50,954 Speaker 1: like the Macaulay Cole contribute is the one that got 78 00:03:50,994 --> 00:03:53,074 Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially because she played his mother 79 00:03:53,154 --> 00:03:57,074 Speaker 1: across two films and he famously had a terrible childhood 80 00:03:57,434 --> 00:04:00,314 Speaker 1: and he calls her mom exactly, he was calling her 81 00:04:00,354 --> 00:04:02,074 Speaker 1: mama and that was just so and like you know, 82 00:04:02,114 --> 00:04:04,194 Speaker 1: when he's a child star, his parents had a whole 83 00:04:04,234 --> 00:04:06,714 Speaker 1: bunch of kids. They were living in a one bedroom apartment. 84 00:04:06,954 --> 00:04:09,634 Speaker 1: He was the breadwinner for the family. His dad, by 85 00:04:09,634 --> 00:04:13,434 Speaker 1: all accounts, was like super abusive, and he's always talked 86 00:04:13,434 --> 00:04:16,433 Speaker 1: about her being this mother influence to him. And when 87 00:04:16,474 --> 00:04:19,193 Speaker 1: the movie's finished as well, and that's why those photos 88 00:04:19,594 --> 00:04:22,074 Speaker 1: when Macaulay Culkin got his star on the Hollywood Walk 89 00:04:22,113 --> 00:04:24,113 Speaker 1: of Fame and Katherine O'Hara was up there the one 90 00:04:24,154 --> 00:04:27,393 Speaker 1: giving the speech, hugging him, and then his tribute was, Mama, 91 00:04:27,433 --> 00:04:29,594 Speaker 1: I thought we had more time. I wanted to sit 92 00:04:29,674 --> 00:04:31,274 Speaker 1: next to you and just hear you speak, but I'll 93 00:04:31,313 --> 00:04:33,993 Speaker 1: see you later. Yeah, it was really beautiful. It was beautiful. 94 00:04:34,073 --> 00:04:36,874 Speaker 1: It was so nice to see. And then also Beetlejuice 95 00:04:37,073 --> 00:04:39,113 Speaker 1: both one and two, but especially that first one was 96 00:04:39,154 --> 00:04:41,113 Speaker 1: such a cold appearance. But then also the fact that 97 00:04:41,154 --> 00:04:44,674 Speaker 1: she found this whole new audience in her fifty sixties 98 00:04:44,674 --> 00:04:47,713 Speaker 1: and seventies with these TV roles, most notably as Ship's 99 00:04:47,753 --> 00:04:50,674 Speaker 1: Creak of course, and she kind of created that character. Obviously. 100 00:04:50,753 --> 00:04:54,354 Speaker 1: Eugene Levy and Dan Levy, the father son creators of 101 00:04:54,354 --> 00:04:56,993 Speaker 1: that show. Eugene had worked with her many times before 102 00:04:57,354 --> 00:04:59,954 Speaker 1: and they wrote that part for her, but they were 103 00:04:59,993 --> 00:05:02,073 Speaker 1: never sure if they could actually get Katherine and O'Hara 104 00:05:02,193 --> 00:05:04,633 Speaker 1: to their tiny show. Yeah, and to also like for 105 00:05:04,674 --> 00:05:06,354 Speaker 1: her to pull it off the way she did, which 106 00:05:06,393 --> 00:05:10,234 Speaker 1: was unbelievab And I saw Daphne Guinness posted about how 107 00:05:10,313 --> 00:05:13,713 Speaker 1: that's who she drew inspiration from for the character. Daphne 108 00:05:13,794 --> 00:05:16,354 Speaker 1: said they'd never actually met, but it was so like 109 00:05:16,474 --> 00:05:20,474 Speaker 1: special to her that she played that kind of influencing 110 00:05:20,553 --> 00:05:23,434 Speaker 1: Catherine's life, which was amazing. Yeah, the fact that she 111 00:05:23,513 --> 00:05:25,593 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that part's so well written because the 112 00:05:25,674 --> 00:05:27,954 Speaker 1: Levees did an incredible job on that show, but they 113 00:05:27,993 --> 00:05:30,473 Speaker 1: even said so much of it was bits of improvise. 114 00:05:30,553 --> 00:05:33,634 Speaker 1: The accent she came up with, all her little sayings 115 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:36,794 Speaker 1: and her little mannerisms were all coming from her. And 116 00:05:36,834 --> 00:05:39,313 Speaker 1: then I think a whole nother audience has also found 117 00:05:39,313 --> 00:05:41,313 Speaker 1: her on the studio because that's been such a good show, 118 00:05:41,474 --> 00:05:44,633 Speaker 1: such a huge show, and it's just very sad but 119 00:05:44,674 --> 00:05:47,673 Speaker 1: also really beautiful to see what everyone was saying about 120 00:05:47,674 --> 00:05:51,633 Speaker 1: her amazing and also the influx of like clips from 121 00:05:51,674 --> 00:05:55,034 Speaker 1: Ship's Creek that infiltrated my feet over the weekend, and 122 00:05:55,113 --> 00:05:57,274 Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone else is. And I think the thing 123 00:05:57,274 --> 00:05:59,274 Speaker 1: with the ship's creek clip is I'm never going to 124 00:05:59,313 --> 00:06:01,393 Speaker 1: scroll past without watching it because you know you're going 125 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:02,953 Speaker 1: to have a laugh. I was doing the same thing. 126 00:06:02,953 --> 00:06:05,153 Speaker 1: I'm watching clips of her over the weekend and seeing things. 127 00:06:05,154 --> 00:06:06,873 Speaker 1: I know. There was that one viral clip that everyone 128 00:06:06,873 --> 00:06:09,514 Speaker 1: was talking about where she's at at airport and someone's 129 00:06:09,553 --> 00:06:11,833 Speaker 1: filming her and they asked which role she would most 130 00:06:11,914 --> 00:06:13,794 Speaker 1: like to be remembered for, and she says a mother, 131 00:06:14,193 --> 00:06:16,794 Speaker 1: which is really lovely to her two kids. But there's 132 00:06:16,794 --> 00:06:19,153 Speaker 1: also another clip of an interview going around where she 133 00:06:19,234 --> 00:06:21,474 Speaker 1: was asked about like the biggest difference in her career 134 00:06:21,714 --> 00:06:23,633 Speaker 1: in her early career into now and she looks out 135 00:06:23,633 --> 00:06:26,153 Speaker 1: press junkets, which I thought was so funny, and I'm like, 136 00:06:26,193 --> 00:06:28,393 Speaker 1: i was already team Catherine Ohara, but now I'm even 137 00:06:28,433 --> 00:06:31,593 Speaker 1: more team Catherine Ohara because she talks about young journalists 138 00:06:31,594 --> 00:06:34,313 Speaker 1: just wanting her to repeat things she said before that 139 00:06:34,354 --> 00:06:37,273 Speaker 1: are funny or like repeat lines, and she was like, 140 00:06:37,313 --> 00:06:39,193 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to do press and I'm so happy 141 00:06:39,193 --> 00:06:40,753 Speaker 1: to talk about things. But she's like, I'm used to 142 00:06:40,794 --> 00:06:43,713 Speaker 1: doing like a back and forth conversation or a round 143 00:06:43,753 --> 00:06:46,794 Speaker 1: table and basically saying she doesn't like when people come 144 00:06:46,834 --> 00:06:48,553 Speaker 1: in and just get her to do like she was 145 00:06:48,553 --> 00:06:50,834 Speaker 1: onto what they were doing, like just repeat funny lines 146 00:06:50,873 --> 00:06:53,274 Speaker 1: she said before to be cut up into clips chase 147 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:55,714 Speaker 1: those virus. It's not because I'm not funny, It's because 148 00:06:55,714 --> 00:06:59,553 Speaker 1: I have taste. I love the truest thing I've ever heard. 149 00:06:59,834 --> 00:07:01,794 Speaker 1: And I just love that she's like such a comedy 150 00:07:01,834 --> 00:07:03,633 Speaker 1: genius that she was like, I'll do anything in front 151 00:07:03,633 --> 00:07:05,313 Speaker 1: of the camera for press, but like, let's make it 152 00:07:05,354 --> 00:07:08,634 Speaker 1: funny and unique, not just repeating means again. Yeah, So 153 00:07:08,753 --> 00:07:10,594 Speaker 1: I love her. I love and I feel like because 154 00:07:10,634 --> 00:07:12,514 Speaker 1: she was booked and busy and she was such a 155 00:07:12,594 --> 00:07:14,994 Speaker 1: huge part of the entertainment industry that everyone's kind of 156 00:07:15,314 --> 00:07:18,474 Speaker 1: in morning but also scrambling, like it was so unexpected. 157 00:07:18,714 --> 00:07:21,034 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of reports about like a mystery illness, 158 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:23,114 Speaker 1: and like even the nine one one call was being released, 159 00:07:23,114 --> 00:07:26,034 Speaker 1: and I was like, let's not business. No, I see that. No, 160 00:07:26,194 --> 00:07:28,994 Speaker 1: I don't need any details, don't need about her death 161 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:30,953 Speaker 1: or anything like that or her illness. Like I think 162 00:07:31,434 --> 00:07:33,713 Speaker 1: the way people have been celebrating her life is the 163 00:07:33,714 --> 00:07:36,554 Speaker 1: way that is absolutely like what we've seen from everyone 164 00:07:36,554 --> 00:07:38,634 Speaker 1: that worked with her, knew her, loved her, is a 165 00:07:38,714 --> 00:07:43,593 Speaker 1: celebration of her life, which is just what she deserves. Yeah, 166 00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:46,153 Speaker 1: just when you thought this story was winding down, it's 167 00:07:46,154 --> 00:07:48,434 Speaker 1: never really going to wind down until like it will. 168 00:07:48,434 --> 00:07:51,233 Speaker 1: It will like every celebrity story Peter aut eventually until 169 00:07:51,274 --> 00:07:53,314 Speaker 1: some other big moment happens. But the thing is, people 170 00:07:53,354 --> 00:07:56,273 Speaker 1: are still coming out of the woodwork giving interviews. There's 171 00:07:56,274 --> 00:07:59,033 Speaker 1: still a lot of news swelling around, and that is 172 00:07:59,074 --> 00:08:01,834 Speaker 1: the Beckham family feud, of course it is. And are 173 00:08:01,834 --> 00:08:04,354 Speaker 1: you surprised about the number of people that have come 174 00:08:04,354 --> 00:08:07,034 Speaker 1: out and given interviews because I think that's quite unnw 175 00:08:07,154 --> 00:08:10,674 Speaker 1: visual for a story of this magnitude, with like celebs 176 00:08:10,953 --> 00:08:13,194 Speaker 1: of this calibar. Yeah, it's just I feel like, did 177 00:08:13,234 --> 00:08:15,874 Speaker 1: they not have the initial NDAs when the family was first, 178 00:08:15,953 --> 00:08:18,634 Speaker 1: like even from ten years ago on lock. I'm surprised 179 00:08:18,674 --> 00:08:20,314 Speaker 1: of how many people are coming out. I mean a 180 00:08:20,314 --> 00:08:23,434 Speaker 1: few celebrity bystanders who aren't involved. I guess they can 181 00:08:23,474 --> 00:08:26,554 Speaker 1: sort of give their thoughts, especially on Nikola, But yeah, 182 00:08:26,594 --> 00:08:29,154 Speaker 1: maybe I thought some of those girlfriends, Yeah, this is 183 00:08:29,194 --> 00:08:32,834 Speaker 1: not David Victoria's first rodeo like they have been. You know, 184 00:08:32,874 --> 00:08:36,834 Speaker 1: they have like copped hardcore British press issues for their 185 00:08:37,034 --> 00:08:40,114 Speaker 1: entire relationship. So it's interesting, as you say, if they 186 00:08:40,114 --> 00:08:42,914 Speaker 1: didn't have these NDAs on lock for all of these people, 187 00:08:43,434 --> 00:08:46,554 Speaker 1: I was still only getting the surface. Yes, I think 188 00:08:46,554 --> 00:08:48,554 Speaker 1: there's a lot more out there. I think these little 189 00:08:48,794 --> 00:08:50,754 Speaker 1: bits of info that are kind of coming through the 190 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:53,234 Speaker 1: cracks are just like the tip of the ice pel. Yeah, 191 00:08:53,314 --> 00:08:55,194 Speaker 1: but they're all we have at the moment. Yeah. The 192 00:08:55,234 --> 00:08:59,194 Speaker 1: accusation at the moment is that Brooklyn and Nicola, and 193 00:08:59,234 --> 00:09:00,914 Speaker 1: we've mentioned this on a show last week, we were 194 00:09:00,914 --> 00:09:03,434 Speaker 1: talking about them putting on a very public front. Is 195 00:09:03,474 --> 00:09:06,234 Speaker 1: it They're posting a lot to their instagrams. They're kind 196 00:09:06,234 --> 00:09:09,434 Speaker 1: of collab posting, commenting, and it's not there sort of 197 00:09:09,474 --> 00:09:11,434 Speaker 1: promoting anything a lot at the moment. I mean, every 198 00:09:11,434 --> 00:09:14,514 Speaker 1: so often Brooklyn still promotes his hot sauce and Nikola 199 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:17,074 Speaker 1: posts a lot from the charities that she works with, 200 00:09:17,314 --> 00:09:21,234 Speaker 1: the Dog Rest Rescue, which she says Victoria wouldn't help 201 00:09:21,234 --> 00:09:24,154 Speaker 1: her with. Yeah. Oh, I kind of like took that. 202 00:09:24,234 --> 00:09:26,794 Speaker 1: So that was in Brooklyn's initial statement, which we couldn't 203 00:09:26,794 --> 00:09:28,914 Speaker 1: really touch on because there was so much else happening 204 00:09:28,914 --> 00:09:32,234 Speaker 1: in there that she had asked Victoria to help. Was 205 00:09:32,234 --> 00:09:34,194 Speaker 1: the LA fire. It was the LA fires, So it 206 00:09:34,234 --> 00:09:37,474 Speaker 1: was the dogs that were displaced from their homes during 207 00:09:37,474 --> 00:09:39,394 Speaker 1: the LA fires. Was obviously a lot of dogs like 208 00:09:39,514 --> 00:09:44,074 Speaker 1: run when there's danger, and so apparently, according to Brooklyn 209 00:09:44,074 --> 00:09:47,474 Speaker 1: in the statement, she had asked Victoria if she would 210 00:09:47,594 --> 00:09:49,994 Speaker 1: post about it to just help spread the word and 211 00:09:50,074 --> 00:09:52,953 Speaker 1: help these dogs, and that Victoria said no, she would not. 212 00:09:53,154 --> 00:09:54,954 Speaker 1: I mean, again, I don't know the ins and outs 213 00:09:54,994 --> 00:09:56,674 Speaker 1: of this, but to me that makes a little bit 214 00:09:56,674 --> 00:09:59,474 Speaker 1: of sense because Victoria, I think she's so careful with 215 00:09:59,514 --> 00:10:01,754 Speaker 1: her brand. I'm not saying she doesn't care about stray 216 00:10:01,794 --> 00:10:04,074 Speaker 1: dogs or homeless dogs. I mean, maybe she doesn't. I 217 00:10:04,074 --> 00:10:06,314 Speaker 1: don't know who knows that that woman. But I think 218 00:10:06,354 --> 00:10:08,314 Speaker 1: also like if she posts about that, and then she 219 00:10:08,314 --> 00:10:10,634 Speaker 1: didn't post anything else about the LA fires, which I 220 00:10:10,634 --> 00:10:12,314 Speaker 1: think she did post something at the time, but then 221 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:13,874 Speaker 1: like you have to be so careful when you've got 222 00:10:13,874 --> 00:10:17,074 Speaker 1: such a huge platform like that that everything is like 223 00:10:17,154 --> 00:10:19,754 Speaker 1: kind of vetted and you're posting about other causes that 224 00:10:19,794 --> 00:10:22,074 Speaker 1: you take other plan content down, like it's not just 225 00:10:22,154 --> 00:10:25,274 Speaker 1: Victoria grabbing her phone and pressing share. So I'm always 226 00:10:25,314 --> 00:10:27,874 Speaker 1: just wondering if there's more of a back see there. 227 00:10:28,074 --> 00:10:30,674 Speaker 1: But what people are thinking now is that not only 228 00:10:30,674 --> 00:10:33,114 Speaker 1: are they posting these Brooklyn and Nicola posting these really 229 00:10:33,194 --> 00:10:35,474 Speaker 1: loved up photos, but it kind of looks like they're 230 00:10:35,514 --> 00:10:38,794 Speaker 1: recreating some of Victoria Beckham and David Beckham on their 231 00:10:38,874 --> 00:10:43,154 Speaker 1: date nights. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, like, oh, 232 00:10:43,394 --> 00:10:45,354 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a bit of a rache I 233 00:10:45,434 --> 00:10:47,754 Speaker 1: personally do. I mean, there's only like so many ways 234 00:10:47,754 --> 00:10:50,514 Speaker 1: a date can look round. I think that's a reach 235 00:10:50,554 --> 00:10:52,314 Speaker 1: as well. There's other things I don't comment on, but 236 00:10:52,354 --> 00:10:53,754 Speaker 1: I was like, how many ways that it kissed someone 237 00:10:53,754 --> 00:10:56,594 Speaker 1: across the dinner tab? Right? Like, if you put anyone's 238 00:10:56,594 --> 00:10:59,394 Speaker 1: photos together, they're gonna look like that. Yeah, anyone's like 239 00:10:59,474 --> 00:11:02,794 Speaker 1: collection of photographs out on a day. Yeah, it's it's 240 00:11:02,834 --> 00:11:05,234 Speaker 1: all going to look a little bit same same. I 241 00:11:05,234 --> 00:11:08,594 Speaker 1: don't think we can take those that evidence off the table. Yeah, 242 00:11:08,714 --> 00:11:11,234 Speaker 1: I think there's I actually think there's enough to go 243 00:11:11,314 --> 00:11:14,794 Speaker 1: with and to wade through without having to kind of 244 00:11:15,314 --> 00:11:18,234 Speaker 1: make so exactly. We have people speaking on the record, 245 00:11:18,314 --> 00:11:20,994 Speaker 1: so one of them, who obviously this woman's braver than me. 246 00:11:21,074 --> 00:11:23,714 Speaker 1: That's all I say for going against brand Beckham. But 247 00:11:23,794 --> 00:11:25,794 Speaker 1: she's probably also now like what have I got to lose? 248 00:11:25,834 --> 00:11:28,434 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get into Victoria Beckham's good graces 249 00:11:28,434 --> 00:11:31,434 Speaker 1: and wear her dresses. Which is one of Brooklyn Beckham's 250 00:11:31,434 --> 00:11:36,034 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend's, Talia Storm, who gave an interview with Piers Morgan, 251 00:11:36,314 --> 00:11:40,314 Speaker 1: which red flag already. Yeah, I mean Peers is stolen 252 00:11:40,354 --> 00:11:42,874 Speaker 1: with the gossip though he's all over this. He was 253 00:11:42,914 --> 00:11:45,434 Speaker 1: asking the tough questions. Yeah, she is a twenty seven 254 00:11:45,514 --> 00:11:48,114 Speaker 1: year old singer and dated Brooklyn when she was sixteen. 255 00:11:48,554 --> 00:11:50,634 Speaker 1: But also she was like in with the family like that, 256 00:11:50,714 --> 00:11:52,034 Speaker 1: which she would go to events with them, she was 257 00:11:52,074 --> 00:11:53,874 Speaker 1: in their home a lot. They were together for a while. 258 00:11:53,914 --> 00:11:57,074 Speaker 1: So I guess she's sharing what she remembers from and 259 00:11:57,114 --> 00:12:01,514 Speaker 1: what she is and also the treatment that she received. Yeah, exactly, 260 00:12:01,594 --> 00:12:03,114 Speaker 1: And so maybe there were a little lax on the 261 00:12:03,234 --> 00:12:05,674 Speaker 1: NDA's back then, because one thing she says is that 262 00:12:05,714 --> 00:12:09,714 Speaker 1: she accuses Victoria Beckham of setting up paparazzi shots of 263 00:12:09,754 --> 00:12:12,714 Speaker 1: Brooklyn in the family, but namely her in Brooklyn, which 264 00:12:12,794 --> 00:12:16,034 Speaker 1: is one of the allegations that he initially put out 265 00:12:16,034 --> 00:12:19,233 Speaker 1: in his big statement about the family, I'm not surprised 266 00:12:19,274 --> 00:12:21,953 Speaker 1: to hear that as being something that they did as 267 00:12:21,954 --> 00:12:25,354 Speaker 1: a family. I'm really not. Yeah, I mean, they had 268 00:12:25,474 --> 00:12:29,554 Speaker 1: such intense paparazzi scrutiny on them from the moment they 269 00:12:29,554 --> 00:12:31,474 Speaker 1: got together. I do think it is kind of a 270 00:12:31,474 --> 00:12:33,194 Speaker 1: bit weird to be like and then calling them on 271 00:12:33,194 --> 00:12:35,914 Speaker 1: their teenage son, which is what she's alleging. What she's 272 00:12:35,914 --> 00:12:37,714 Speaker 1: not alleging they called them when she might be wearing 273 00:12:37,714 --> 00:12:40,474 Speaker 1: a new design walking into an event, or they would 274 00:12:40,474 --> 00:12:42,474 Speaker 1: call it call they're going to be there at the event. 275 00:12:42,554 --> 00:12:45,354 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that like brand, Beckham is 276 00:12:46,074 --> 00:12:49,594 Speaker 1: a family, right, So I don't know about calling them 277 00:12:49,634 --> 00:12:52,274 Speaker 1: on their teenage son to come and like, you know, 278 00:12:52,394 --> 00:12:54,713 Speaker 1: hide in the bushes and catch Brooklyn leaving school or 279 00:12:54,754 --> 00:12:58,314 Speaker 1: whatever it's like. But to present them as a family 280 00:12:58,474 --> 00:13:01,274 Speaker 1: unit and as a brand. A lot of celebrities do 281 00:13:01,354 --> 00:13:03,554 Speaker 1: give the heads up about where they're going to be 282 00:13:03,594 --> 00:13:07,114 Speaker 1: and what time when they want a certain appearance, Yeah, 283 00:13:07,274 --> 00:13:10,154 Speaker 1: come through, Yes, absolutely, Well. This is some of what 284 00:13:10,194 --> 00:13:12,434 Speaker 1: she said in the interview, is that she got such 285 00:13:12,434 --> 00:13:16,114 Speaker 1: a fright once because she says that Victoria sent the 286 00:13:16,154 --> 00:13:18,834 Speaker 1: paparazzi to a gig she was playing it, and sent 287 00:13:18,874 --> 00:13:21,194 Speaker 1: them also to follow her in Brooklyn when they were 288 00:13:21,194 --> 00:13:23,474 Speaker 1: on a date. And she said, at this point, David 289 00:13:23,514 --> 00:13:26,154 Speaker 1: had already dropped Brooklyn off at my house. I had 290 00:13:26,194 --> 00:13:29,914 Speaker 1: met Victoria in her pajamas. That's huge. Huge. Also, like 291 00:13:30,034 --> 00:13:33,594 Speaker 1: David doing the drop off, driving around the thing is 292 00:13:33,634 --> 00:13:36,194 Speaker 1: everything she's saying with them as a family sounds so normal, like, yeah, 293 00:13:36,234 --> 00:13:38,234 Speaker 1: his dad dropped him off. I run around to the house. 294 00:13:38,314 --> 00:13:40,594 Speaker 1: His mom's in her pajamas and she's chatting away to me, 295 00:13:40,674 --> 00:13:43,194 Speaker 1: being nice. And she said it was all lovely and 296 00:13:43,314 --> 00:13:46,154 Speaker 1: no big deal until Brooklyn had come to one of 297 00:13:46,194 --> 00:13:49,634 Speaker 1: her gigs and he arrived with a security detail, and 298 00:13:49,674 --> 00:13:52,114 Speaker 1: she said that felt kind of strange that I kind 299 00:13:52,114 --> 00:13:54,034 Speaker 1: of get like, he can't be out about by himself 300 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,834 Speaker 1: at sixteen without security when his parents the most famous 301 00:13:56,834 --> 00:13:59,674 Speaker 1: people in the country. So she said, so he came 302 00:13:59,714 --> 00:14:01,833 Speaker 1: to the gig and he sent the security team, and 303 00:14:01,834 --> 00:14:03,674 Speaker 1: at the start, and that was already a bit off 304 00:14:03,714 --> 00:14:06,554 Speaker 1: because she said, we're chilling. It's not that deep. You've 305 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:09,354 Speaker 1: come to my and there's no security team. And then 306 00:14:09,394 --> 00:14:11,634 Speaker 1: we left and there were all these people outside, and 307 00:14:11,674 --> 00:14:14,394 Speaker 1: I was frightened, thinking, oh my goodness, I don't want 308 00:14:14,434 --> 00:14:16,754 Speaker 1: him to think it was me. So she didn't want 309 00:14:16,834 --> 00:14:18,234 Speaker 1: him to think that because she's trying to be a 310 00:14:18,234 --> 00:14:21,554 Speaker 1: singer at the time to the concert. Obviously it would 311 00:14:21,874 --> 00:14:24,514 Speaker 1: do well for her career because they would all report 312 00:14:24,514 --> 00:14:26,874 Speaker 1: that he was at this gig she was playing. And 313 00:14:26,914 --> 00:14:29,274 Speaker 1: then she said it was later, maybe ten years ago 314 00:14:29,314 --> 00:14:32,554 Speaker 1: in London. There were twenty thirty paps around and we 315 00:14:32,714 --> 00:14:36,554 Speaker 1: found out that Team Victoria had sent them in. Yeah, 316 00:14:36,594 --> 00:14:38,594 Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean, it's a lot. She did 317 00:14:38,674 --> 00:14:40,874 Speaker 1: go on to say she's team Brooklyn and she's so 318 00:14:40,914 --> 00:14:43,394 Speaker 1: happy he's finally finding a voice and has the power 319 00:14:43,434 --> 00:14:47,074 Speaker 1: to say, hang on a minute, I'm not a show pony. Look, 320 00:14:48,234 --> 00:14:50,594 Speaker 1: it's strange. It's strange to be sitting out there and 321 00:14:50,634 --> 00:14:53,794 Speaker 1: giving these sorts of interviews. I do think, like, what's 322 00:14:53,874 --> 00:14:57,834 Speaker 1: her angle there? You know, I understand, you know, if 323 00:14:57,834 --> 00:14:59,994 Speaker 1: she's saying that she didn't want people to think of Brooklyn, 324 00:15:00,074 --> 00:15:02,754 Speaker 1: to think that she'd called the paparazzi to her show 325 00:15:02,794 --> 00:15:05,154 Speaker 1: and whatever, But like, what's what's her reason for sitting 326 00:15:05,154 --> 00:15:07,794 Speaker 1: down and giving an interview now other than attention? Well, exactly, 327 00:15:07,874 --> 00:15:10,794 Speaker 1: especially eleven years after they've dated and there were kids 328 00:15:10,834 --> 00:15:12,914 Speaker 1: and their adults. Now, I'm not sure how much I 329 00:15:12,954 --> 00:15:15,394 Speaker 1: want to take the kind of thoughts of a sixteen 330 00:15:15,434 --> 00:15:18,994 Speaker 1: year old at the time around accusations against Victoria Beckham. 331 00:15:19,194 --> 00:15:20,954 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it does kind of fit 332 00:15:20,994 --> 00:15:23,554 Speaker 1: in with things that Brooklyn have said. Yeah, it does. 333 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:25,874 Speaker 1: That is interesting. It does kind of corroborate some of 334 00:15:25,914 --> 00:15:28,514 Speaker 1: the claims that he's made. Yeah, it's like we were 335 00:15:28,514 --> 00:15:30,594 Speaker 1: saying when this whole all these statements came out, is 336 00:15:30,594 --> 00:15:33,594 Speaker 1: that all the statements that are coming from the Peltz 337 00:15:33,594 --> 00:15:37,074 Speaker 1: Beckham camp and all the stories that come out around 338 00:15:37,114 --> 00:15:39,954 Speaker 1: them are all giving the same information. Like it feels 339 00:15:39,954 --> 00:15:42,754 Speaker 1: like when there are leaks, it's almost like their leaks, 340 00:15:42,794 --> 00:15:46,314 Speaker 1: but their leaks with information that fits into this one 341 00:15:46,394 --> 00:15:49,754 Speaker 1: narrative sort of all comes together. Like Victorian David were controlling, 342 00:15:49,794 --> 00:15:52,194 Speaker 1: they called the paparazzi. They use their son as a brand. 343 00:15:52,354 --> 00:15:55,074 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying that she checked with Brooklyn and 344 00:15:55,474 --> 00:15:57,914 Speaker 1: said it was okay for her to do the interview, 345 00:15:58,194 --> 00:16:00,474 Speaker 1: but it's interesting that it kind of all aligns with 346 00:16:00,514 --> 00:16:02,514 Speaker 1: what he has said now like eleven years later in 347 00:16:02,554 --> 00:16:05,434 Speaker 1: his statement, Yeah, I mean, look, ultimately, to me, it 348 00:16:05,474 --> 00:16:09,954 Speaker 1: feels like they are a brand. He was a football player, 349 00:16:10,114 --> 00:16:12,514 Speaker 1: she was a pop star. They had to move on 350 00:16:12,634 --> 00:16:15,954 Speaker 1: from that. They built this brand. Having a family was 351 00:16:16,034 --> 00:16:18,194 Speaker 1: part of that brand. This is the choice they make. 352 00:16:18,314 --> 00:16:21,714 Speaker 1: They need paparazzi, they need, you know, Colin Inch's in 353 00:16:21,834 --> 00:16:26,314 Speaker 1: order for this brand to survive and prosper, and he 354 00:16:26,434 --> 00:16:28,554 Speaker 1: just doesn't want to be part of yet anymore. And 355 00:16:28,594 --> 00:16:30,714 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of all okay on both sides, 356 00:16:30,754 --> 00:16:33,954 Speaker 1: which you know, there was that interesting poll about how 357 00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:37,394 Speaker 1: people felt about who was on Victorian David's side, who 358 00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:41,434 Speaker 1: was on Brooklyn and Nicholas's side, and the percentages were 359 00:16:41,474 --> 00:16:43,954 Speaker 1: really small. I feel like it was like six and 360 00:16:44,034 --> 00:16:47,194 Speaker 1: seven percent for each side, and everyone else was just 361 00:16:47,234 --> 00:16:49,874 Speaker 1: happy to watch the whole circus play out. Yeah, I 362 00:16:49,874 --> 00:16:52,394 Speaker 1: feel like not as many people have inten sense of 363 00:16:52,434 --> 00:16:54,514 Speaker 1: loyalty like they did with the Royal family in Harry 364 00:16:54,594 --> 00:16:57,674 Speaker 1: Nigge and Kate and William. People are like being swayed 365 00:16:57,674 --> 00:16:59,394 Speaker 1: to eat a side, but mostly they kind of just 366 00:16:59,434 --> 00:17:02,794 Speaker 1: want the information. We do know another girlfriend a past 367 00:17:02,874 --> 00:17:05,194 Speaker 1: girlfriend of Brooklyn Beckham, because he has a lot of 368 00:17:05,234 --> 00:17:07,833 Speaker 1: famous ex girlfriends, some of them now have kind of 369 00:17:07,834 --> 00:17:09,793 Speaker 1: built their own brands and they're not weighing in on it. 370 00:17:10,114 --> 00:17:13,554 Speaker 1: But one girlfriend, Hannah Cross, who he was with for 371 00:17:13,834 --> 00:17:15,434 Speaker 1: I think well over a year, but they've had like 372 00:17:15,434 --> 00:17:18,234 Speaker 1: a back and forth relationship, was all set to do 373 00:17:18,274 --> 00:17:20,074 Speaker 1: a big tell all interview and that was kind of 374 00:17:20,074 --> 00:17:23,154 Speaker 1: being teased in different places. And now the story has 375 00:17:23,274 --> 00:17:25,874 Speaker 1: come out that she's been warned off giving the interview 376 00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:28,194 Speaker 1: and has pulled out of doing this big tell all 377 00:17:28,274 --> 00:17:32,154 Speaker 1: about the family. Interesting, and I wonder if that's kind 378 00:17:32,194 --> 00:17:36,274 Speaker 1: of the fallout after the Pierce Morgan interview, if suddenly 379 00:17:36,274 --> 00:17:40,073 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, these people are talking, these girls are talking, 380 00:17:40,154 --> 00:17:42,554 Speaker 1: we need to get to the other ones. Well, yeah, exactly. 381 00:17:42,634 --> 00:17:44,954 Speaker 1: And then also people started doing a few hit pieces 382 00:17:44,994 --> 00:17:48,114 Speaker 1: on her before she even gave her interview. But apparently 383 00:17:48,194 --> 00:17:50,354 Speaker 1: they had like a toxic relationship and like, you know, 384 00:17:50,394 --> 00:17:52,834 Speaker 1: a back and forth, breaking up, all these sorts of things. 385 00:17:52,834 --> 00:17:55,114 Speaker 1: So I mean, they're the story. I don't know, they're 386 00:17:55,114 --> 00:17:57,874 Speaker 1: the stories that are coming out now. So it's almost like, 387 00:17:57,914 --> 00:18:00,314 Speaker 1: were their hit pieces coming about her so she pulled back. 388 00:18:00,674 --> 00:18:02,954 Speaker 1: Did someone from the Beckham family, one of their reps 389 00:18:02,994 --> 00:18:05,474 Speaker 1: say something to her to shut it down? Is that 390 00:18:05,594 --> 00:18:09,194 Speaker 1: the only tell all interview that she has some decent 391 00:18:09,274 --> 00:18:12,313 Speaker 1: friends in her life that said, hey, babe, don't do this. 392 00:18:12,554 --> 00:18:13,954 Speaker 1: I hope it's that one, because I've seen a lot 393 00:18:13,954 --> 00:18:15,634 Speaker 1: of photos of her and like red carpets and events 394 00:18:15,674 --> 00:18:17,794 Speaker 1: and stuff, and she's just a stylish kind of girl. 395 00:18:17,914 --> 00:18:19,874 Speaker 1: So I wonder if she was just like this is 396 00:18:19,914 --> 00:18:21,834 Speaker 1: It's enough that people were kind of like, there's a 397 00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:23,954 Speaker 1: bit of story bubbling weight, but I'll keep the mystery. 398 00:18:23,954 --> 00:18:26,194 Speaker 1: And it wasn't worth it, even I'm sure she was 399 00:18:26,234 --> 00:18:29,114 Speaker 1: being offered a lot of money. The other famous name 400 00:18:29,154 --> 00:18:31,434 Speaker 1: that has weighed into this, and I think this is interesting, 401 00:18:31,594 --> 00:18:35,234 Speaker 1: is that it's from Alana had did So, Gigi and 402 00:18:35,314 --> 00:18:40,154 Speaker 1: Bella's sister. And it's interesting because Nicola Peltz dated Ana 403 00:18:40,474 --> 00:18:44,754 Speaker 1: did previously. Yes, and so no one else in her 404 00:18:44,834 --> 00:18:46,994 Speaker 1: kind of life has said anything negative about her. There's 405 00:18:47,034 --> 00:18:49,914 Speaker 1: been like whispers and stuff. But there was a fan 406 00:18:49,954 --> 00:18:52,634 Speaker 1: account who posted some of the statement and the bit 407 00:18:52,714 --> 00:18:55,954 Speaker 1: asking for privacy, and there were like comments underneath it 408 00:18:56,154 --> 00:18:58,274 Speaker 1: from people being like, oh, they want privacy, but they're 409 00:18:58,314 --> 00:19:00,513 Speaker 1: posting the statement or they're doing this sort of stuff. 410 00:19:00,834 --> 00:19:03,594 Speaker 1: And then Alana had did from her like verified account 411 00:19:03,594 --> 00:19:06,514 Speaker 1: where she just posted all of her beautiful wedding photos 412 00:19:06,554 --> 00:19:08,954 Speaker 1: and Gigi Bella were like her, you know, bridesmaids, like 413 00:19:08,994 --> 00:19:12,834 Speaker 1: it was very beautiful, famous oudting. So Elana had did 414 00:19:12,874 --> 00:19:14,914 Speaker 1: wrote on this fan account and this account, and this 415 00:19:14,954 --> 00:19:17,394 Speaker 1: comment got picked up, she said, right, And that girl 416 00:19:17,394 --> 00:19:19,833 Speaker 1: doesn't want privacy. She's been trying to get famous for 417 00:19:19,874 --> 00:19:24,754 Speaker 1: a decade. I mean, that's so messy of her to do. 418 00:19:25,034 --> 00:19:27,234 Speaker 1: It's always a bit of an ick when someone who's 419 00:19:27,274 --> 00:19:30,354 Speaker 1: in the public eye jumps on a fan account like 420 00:19:30,474 --> 00:19:33,154 Speaker 1: lurking fan account and writing comments, and they always a 421 00:19:33,194 --> 00:19:34,954 Speaker 1: thing where they just thought I never thought anyone would 422 00:19:34,954 --> 00:19:36,674 Speaker 1: see it. And I guess, like it's like she has 423 00:19:36,714 --> 00:19:38,994 Speaker 1: a public account, but it's also not her like official 424 00:19:39,074 --> 00:19:41,793 Speaker 1: name on it. She commented on like a fan account 425 00:19:41,794 --> 00:19:43,954 Speaker 1: where there were hundreds of comments, like, I guess there's 426 00:19:43,994 --> 00:19:45,474 Speaker 1: a world in which she didn't think that would get 427 00:19:45,514 --> 00:19:48,714 Speaker 1: picked up. But do you think I don't know, I 428 00:19:49,034 --> 00:19:53,114 Speaker 1: actually say it about like my boomer aunt, Yeah, but 429 00:19:53,194 --> 00:19:56,074 Speaker 1: I don't think I could say it about Alana ha did. Yeah, 430 00:19:56,234 --> 00:19:58,714 Speaker 1: she would be so across the movements of like her 431 00:19:58,754 --> 00:20:01,874 Speaker 1: own famous stuff that she can't put out into the world. 432 00:20:02,274 --> 00:20:03,793 Speaker 1: I think the reason I got picked up is that 433 00:20:03,874 --> 00:20:06,234 Speaker 1: it kind of fit into that narrative that's been pushed 434 00:20:06,234 --> 00:20:09,994 Speaker 1: about Nikola, that she comes from this crazy wealthy family. 435 00:20:10,074 --> 00:20:12,833 Speaker 1: But the one thing you can't buy is like relevance 436 00:20:12,954 --> 00:20:16,874 Speaker 1: and fame in Hollywood entertainment. And as we know, she 437 00:20:16,914 --> 00:20:20,554 Speaker 1: does consider herself by trade as an actor. That's what 438 00:20:20,594 --> 00:20:25,034 Speaker 1: she's dedicated her life to. That and saving dogs noble cause. 439 00:20:25,314 --> 00:20:27,994 Speaker 1: But she's done roles. She's had some great ones, she's 440 00:20:27,994 --> 00:20:30,714 Speaker 1: had some not so great one. She's had some real dodge, 441 00:20:30,754 --> 00:20:33,514 Speaker 1: she's had some great ones. I think her baits motions. Okay, fine, 442 00:20:33,554 --> 00:20:37,274 Speaker 1: she's had she's had great one good. Yeah, she's had 443 00:20:37,314 --> 00:20:39,354 Speaker 1: one good role. Yeah. I don't mean that to sound nasty, 444 00:20:39,354 --> 00:20:42,594 Speaker 1: but I think into the story because she's had a 445 00:20:42,594 --> 00:20:45,354 Speaker 1: lot of big roles and like blockbusters or things that 446 00:20:45,394 --> 00:20:47,754 Speaker 1: were meant to be blockbusters, a lot of money behind them. 447 00:20:47,994 --> 00:20:50,553 Speaker 1: She's directed her own film and like start in it, 448 00:20:50,554 --> 00:20:52,394 Speaker 1: and I believe like did the financing for it and 449 00:20:52,394 --> 00:20:55,033 Speaker 1: all those sorts of things. And so she's been in 450 00:20:55,074 --> 00:20:57,314 Speaker 1: a lot of things. But I don't think anyone knows 451 00:20:57,354 --> 00:21:00,274 Speaker 1: her as no dress. No one knows crossed that line 452 00:21:00,314 --> 00:21:02,634 Speaker 1: to be seen as a famous person in her own 453 00:21:02,714 --> 00:21:04,754 Speaker 1: right or to be seen as like part of the 454 00:21:04,834 --> 00:21:08,073 Speaker 1: zeitgeist or anything doing blockbuster is the only way she 455 00:21:08,074 --> 00:21:09,994 Speaker 1: could kind of do that was to marry into a 456 00:21:10,034 --> 00:21:13,114 Speaker 1: famous family. Absolutely, That's why people were like picking up 457 00:21:13,154 --> 00:21:15,074 Speaker 1: on this Salana had did quote, because they're like, oh, 458 00:21:15,154 --> 00:21:17,914 Speaker 1: that's what everyone's been whispering about, and now someone who 459 00:21:18,554 --> 00:21:21,394 Speaker 1: knows her and like she was dating someone in their family. 460 00:21:21,554 --> 00:21:25,034 Speaker 1: It's almost like someone was giving credibility to a rumor. Yeah, 461 00:21:25,074 --> 00:21:28,114 Speaker 1: well it's true. I mean she was billionaire heiress, then 462 00:21:28,434 --> 00:21:32,834 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Beckham's wife, and then behind that actress, aspiring actress, 463 00:21:32,874 --> 00:21:37,114 Speaker 1: working actress, but not certainly not headlining films and picking 464 00:21:37,194 --> 00:21:39,793 Speaker 1: up awards. Yeah exactly. So that is there. We're with 465 00:21:39,834 --> 00:21:42,354 Speaker 1: the Beckham family drama. I'm sure we'll have a few 466 00:21:42,354 --> 00:21:44,994 Speaker 1: more twists and turns before this story comes to a resolution. 467 00:21:45,114 --> 00:21:46,674 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of roomors flying out there, and 468 00:21:46,674 --> 00:21:48,354 Speaker 1: also a lot of girls who are just like thinking, 469 00:21:48,754 --> 00:21:50,834 Speaker 1: should I do give the tell all interview? And sometimes 470 00:21:50,914 --> 00:21:52,834 Speaker 1: the answer is no. Yeah, I think a lot of 471 00:21:52,834 --> 00:21:55,634 Speaker 1: the time the answer is no for them, for us, 472 00:21:55,954 --> 00:22:02,234 Speaker 1: keep it coming, Yeah exactly exactly. So the Grammy Awards 473 00:22:02,314 --> 00:22:04,594 Speaker 1: are happening as we speak. As we sit in this 474 00:22:04,714 --> 00:22:07,634 Speaker 1: studio with the door locked, the red carpet is still 475 00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:10,674 Speaker 1: going on. The last few people literally running down the 476 00:22:10,674 --> 00:22:13,994 Speaker 1: red carpet. We might get a live reaction because I 477 00:22:14,034 --> 00:22:18,074 Speaker 1: am the sviously refreshing my screen as we speak. You know, 478 00:22:18,194 --> 00:22:21,234 Speaker 1: this is live reporting the energy. But we're going to 479 00:22:21,314 --> 00:22:24,154 Speaker 1: go through the best and worst looks from the red carpet, 480 00:22:24,194 --> 00:22:28,274 Speaker 1: well best worst, most interesting thoughts, because this is American 481 00:22:28,394 --> 00:22:30,954 Speaker 1: Music's a night of nights, and there's a lot of 482 00:22:31,114 --> 00:22:34,794 Speaker 1: huge stars here, most notably one Sabrina Carpentella. I think 483 00:22:34,794 --> 00:22:37,594 Speaker 1: it is the big name there. Yeah, and which good 484 00:22:37,594 --> 00:22:40,154 Speaker 1: on her for showing up early and looking huge. So 485 00:22:40,354 --> 00:22:43,154 Speaker 1: sunny all the biggest star like that you do come last? Ye? 486 00:22:43,474 --> 00:22:46,314 Speaker 1: Hold that? Yeah, Sabrina did turn up right and early. 487 00:22:46,394 --> 00:22:48,714 Speaker 1: I would say it's because she's performing tonight, so she 488 00:22:48,754 --> 00:22:51,234 Speaker 1: wanted to walk the red carpet still, get backstage and 489 00:22:51,274 --> 00:22:55,074 Speaker 1: get all settled for her big performances. Quick turnaround, quick turnaround. 490 00:22:55,114 --> 00:22:57,874 Speaker 1: She did an epic performance last year, so people are 491 00:22:57,874 --> 00:23:00,194 Speaker 1: going to expect a religiod followers. Great, she's such a 492 00:23:00,274 --> 00:23:02,434 Speaker 1: freaking good live performer. All right, we have to talk 493 00:23:02,474 --> 00:23:04,434 Speaker 1: about her red carpet look. I'll say before we jump in, 494 00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:06,513 Speaker 1: we're going to do our best to describe the looks, 495 00:23:06,514 --> 00:23:08,834 Speaker 1: but also have posted all of the photos of the 496 00:23:08,834 --> 00:23:11,354 Speaker 1: looks we're talking about on our Instagram account. So it's 497 00:23:11,354 --> 00:23:14,994 Speaker 1: the Spill podcast on Instagram. So maybe open up our page, 498 00:23:15,154 --> 00:23:17,114 Speaker 1: find the gallery of looks we talk about the Spill 499 00:23:17,154 --> 00:23:18,833 Speaker 1: and you can follow along and be looking at them 500 00:23:18,874 --> 00:23:21,554 Speaker 1: as we talk. As we talk. So Sabrina's look, she's 501 00:23:21,594 --> 00:23:25,754 Speaker 1: wearing custom Valentino. Yes, And I'm so happy because I 502 00:23:25,834 --> 00:23:28,514 Speaker 1: love Alessandra Mcalay. I think that the last three times 503 00:23:28,554 --> 00:23:30,914 Speaker 1: I've been on the Spill, I've managed to bring Alessandra 504 00:23:30,994 --> 00:23:35,554 Speaker 1: Mcalay woman. So he took over at Valentino the last 505 00:23:35,594 --> 00:23:38,513 Speaker 1: couple of years. Previously he was at Gucci, where he 506 00:23:38,874 --> 00:23:41,194 Speaker 1: made over the house of Gucci, and that's why Gucci 507 00:23:41,314 --> 00:23:44,394 Speaker 1: was like so epic for so many years. He just 508 00:23:44,634 --> 00:23:48,354 Speaker 1: understands beauty and you can see that in Sabrina's look. 509 00:23:48,434 --> 00:23:52,154 Speaker 1: It is so ethereal and pretty and it is a 510 00:23:52,154 --> 00:23:55,634 Speaker 1: bit reminiscent of that beautiful gown. I think that Kendall 511 00:23:55,714 --> 00:23:58,034 Speaker 1: Jenna watered the Metcala that year, well, the one where 512 00:23:58,074 --> 00:24:01,513 Speaker 1: she said that she channeled Audrey Ben Audrey Hepburn in 513 00:24:01,594 --> 00:24:05,034 Speaker 1: the My Fair Lady dress. I can see that kind 514 00:24:05,074 --> 00:24:08,514 Speaker 1: of shaping and detailing this as well. But the work 515 00:24:08,554 --> 00:24:11,474 Speaker 1: in it is exquisite. It's so so pretty. You're much 516 00:24:11,554 --> 00:24:13,114 Speaker 1: nicer than me by saying that, because when I first 517 00:24:13,154 --> 00:24:16,634 Speaker 1: saw it, I was a little Underwell, let me describe 518 00:24:16,634 --> 00:24:18,553 Speaker 1: the dress at first. So it's almost like a white, 519 00:24:18,594 --> 00:24:21,594 Speaker 1: like a cream. It's got a sparkly bodice and then 520 00:24:21,714 --> 00:24:24,833 Speaker 1: going into like this long teared, ruffle skirt, and then 521 00:24:24,834 --> 00:24:27,274 Speaker 1: it's got the beautiful kind of sheer sleeves over the top. 522 00:24:27,674 --> 00:24:30,314 Speaker 1: She looks gorgeous, that's not in question. Like she looks 523 00:24:30,314 --> 00:24:32,594 Speaker 1: like a little angel who floated down from heaven to 524 00:24:32,714 --> 00:24:34,874 Speaker 1: just pop onto the Grammy's red carpet. Then she's gonna 525 00:24:34,914 --> 00:24:37,754 Speaker 1: float away again. But the thing is like, she always 526 00:24:37,754 --> 00:24:41,074 Speaker 1: looks pretty, that's her default setting. And this is a 527 00:24:41,074 --> 00:24:43,874 Speaker 1: lovely dress. But it kind of looks like any dress 528 00:24:43,954 --> 00:24:47,154 Speaker 1: that any kind of like starlet, like a glittery gown, 529 00:24:47,514 --> 00:24:49,994 Speaker 1: would wear on any red carpet. She's not having a 530 00:24:49,994 --> 00:24:52,834 Speaker 1: Grammys moment, and she's the biggest star there in my 531 00:24:52,954 --> 00:24:55,474 Speaker 1: very humble opinion, she's the biggest star there. It's a 532 00:24:55,514 --> 00:24:58,714 Speaker 1: massive night for her. That dress is pretty, but I 533 00:24:58,794 --> 00:25:01,194 Speaker 1: just I wish she'd had this like wow moment Like 534 00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:02,914 Speaker 1: that just looks like a lot of other different dresses 535 00:25:02,914 --> 00:25:05,434 Speaker 1: she's worn to many a red carpet, you could put 536 00:25:05,474 --> 00:25:10,634 Speaker 1: that on it, amore disagree with you. It's just so 537 00:25:11,474 --> 00:25:13,634 Speaker 1: gorgeous and I love seeing her this way. I love 538 00:25:13,674 --> 00:25:16,754 Speaker 1: seeing her hair and makeup a little bit different as well. 539 00:25:16,834 --> 00:25:19,834 Speaker 1: Like you know, she's had the really big hair at 540 00:25:19,834 --> 00:25:22,034 Speaker 1: the last few events and over the last couple of 541 00:25:22,114 --> 00:25:24,514 Speaker 1: years that she's been doing, so I love seeing her 542 00:25:24,554 --> 00:25:27,954 Speaker 1: in this really elegant look rather than kind of that 543 00:25:28,274 --> 00:25:33,314 Speaker 1: leaning into that country tis. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's 544 00:25:33,354 --> 00:25:35,434 Speaker 1: a bit like kind of old school Taylor Swift when 545 00:25:35,474 --> 00:25:37,793 Speaker 1: she was doing the Princess e gown. That that's all 546 00:25:37,834 --> 00:25:40,514 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say on that. But also she looks beautiful 547 00:25:40,514 --> 00:25:42,314 Speaker 1: and that's important. Can I tell you who I'm actually 548 00:25:42,314 --> 00:25:44,914 Speaker 1: obsessed with and who's my best dress? Yes, chupple room, 549 00:25:44,994 --> 00:25:48,034 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, so Waiter show up at the 550 00:25:48,074 --> 00:25:50,554 Speaker 1: Grammys and have a moment. Yeah, it's giving a lot 551 00:25:50,554 --> 00:25:53,033 Speaker 1: of tits. I'm worried for her. Can I say that 552 00:25:53,194 --> 00:25:56,513 Speaker 1: like a shiver, a goosewumpy shiver has gone down my spine. 553 00:25:56,594 --> 00:26:00,194 Speaker 1: I hope she's being sponsored by like the boob tape, 554 00:26:00,314 --> 00:26:02,954 Speaker 1: you know, one of those brands. It's not take I 555 00:26:02,994 --> 00:26:05,714 Speaker 1: don't think it is either. That is a nipple piercing, right, 556 00:26:05,834 --> 00:26:09,553 Speaker 1: I'm zoom writing you see that? Okay, So Chappel's dress 557 00:26:09,594 --> 00:26:11,874 Speaker 1: if you can call it that, or piece of materials 558 00:26:11,874 --> 00:26:13,754 Speaker 1: which have a house design that I'm sure that they 559 00:26:13,954 --> 00:26:17,354 Speaker 1: have done the leg work. So it's a burgundy sheer 560 00:26:17,514 --> 00:26:21,594 Speaker 1: piece of basically material and it's coming into a long train. 561 00:26:22,114 --> 00:26:25,674 Speaker 1: But she has two necklaces and no top, no top 562 00:26:25,714 --> 00:26:29,114 Speaker 1: to speak of, no bra, no cups, no pads, nothing, 563 00:26:29,514 --> 00:26:32,073 Speaker 1: just two boobs out there in the world. Beautiful boobs. 564 00:26:32,114 --> 00:26:35,794 Speaker 1: And it looks like her nipples have a piercing unless 565 00:26:35,914 --> 00:26:37,954 Speaker 1: it's some sort of like they've put a tape over 566 00:26:37,994 --> 00:26:39,794 Speaker 1: it and the piercing is on the tape. I want 567 00:26:39,834 --> 00:26:43,194 Speaker 1: scientists to study this. Yeah, we need more information, but 568 00:26:43,794 --> 00:26:47,194 Speaker 1: it looks like a nipple piercing and the material has 569 00:26:47,234 --> 00:26:50,154 Speaker 1: been looped through the piercing to hold it up. Like 570 00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:53,954 Speaker 1: the engineering here is so good. I mean she looks incredible. 571 00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:57,914 Speaker 1: She's so a hair with the gown is so incredible. 572 00:26:57,914 --> 00:27:01,273 Speaker 1: That makeup, Yeah, she's wow. I'm just a little worried 573 00:27:01,314 --> 00:27:04,474 Speaker 1: for her because if indeed those are two nipple piercings 574 00:27:04,554 --> 00:27:06,754 Speaker 1: that the material is pulled through and that's supporting the 575 00:27:06,754 --> 00:27:10,034 Speaker 1: whole and she's got a long train, all we need 576 00:27:10,154 --> 00:27:12,553 Speaker 1: is one busy body to walk. Yeah. Yeah, you look 577 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:17,034 Speaker 1: at me. Sick someone someone, someone's heel to someone. One 578 00:27:17,074 --> 00:27:19,674 Speaker 1: person stands on that train and they are ripping out 579 00:27:19,834 --> 00:27:23,754 Speaker 1: two nipple piercings off chapel roone and that is a 580 00:27:23,834 --> 00:27:26,474 Speaker 1: level of pain. I like, as we all know, she's 581 00:27:26,474 --> 00:27:28,793 Speaker 1: got a lot of bite, so I think people are 582 00:27:28,834 --> 00:27:30,874 Speaker 1: pretty wary of coming too close to her at a 583 00:27:30,914 --> 00:27:34,074 Speaker 1: red carpet moment. Yeah, she's got ten people around her 584 00:27:34,154 --> 00:27:36,114 Speaker 1: being like, if anyone steps on her dress, you will 585 00:27:36,194 --> 00:27:39,033 Speaker 1: rip her nipples from her body. And we can't have that. No, 586 00:27:39,154 --> 00:27:41,314 Speaker 1: we cannot have that. But I love it because it 587 00:27:41,554 --> 00:27:43,154 Speaker 1: is such a moment and it doesn't look like she's 588 00:27:43,154 --> 00:27:44,914 Speaker 1: even doing it for attention. It looks like she wants 589 00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:46,874 Speaker 1: to be wearing it. Oh yeah, I mean she's she's 590 00:27:47,154 --> 00:27:50,914 Speaker 1: wearing that yeah dress, it's I mean, it's unbelievable to me. 591 00:27:51,034 --> 00:27:54,234 Speaker 1: It's such an editorial look, which makes sense because it 592 00:27:54,274 --> 00:27:56,714 Speaker 1: looks like something that should only be handled in a 593 00:27:56,754 --> 00:27:59,034 Speaker 1: still shot, and she's wearing it on a red carpet. 594 00:27:59,234 --> 00:28:02,434 Speaker 1: So exactly, I just will give her every award just 595 00:28:02,474 --> 00:28:04,793 Speaker 1: for being fearless in her like putting her nipples on 596 00:28:04,794 --> 00:28:07,114 Speaker 1: the line in the name of fashion. I want to see, 597 00:28:07,314 --> 00:28:09,514 Speaker 1: in the name of fashion and the name of music, exactly. 598 00:28:09,594 --> 00:28:11,234 Speaker 1: And the thing is, like, it's so hard to do 599 00:28:11,434 --> 00:28:13,474 Speaker 1: a good kind of naked dress now because it feels 600 00:28:13,514 --> 00:28:18,234 Speaker 1: so dune. Boobs have become boring boobs and butts have 601 00:28:18,234 --> 00:28:21,394 Speaker 1: become boring a red carpet. These boobs, I'm so into. 602 00:28:22,314 --> 00:28:24,634 Speaker 1: I'm done, such a great job. What a high Well 603 00:28:24,634 --> 00:28:28,954 Speaker 1: that's my best dress. Who's who are yours? Look Sabrina's mine? 604 00:28:28,954 --> 00:28:32,833 Speaker 1: So we've already kept boring Sabrina according to my gosh, 605 00:28:33,154 --> 00:28:37,434 Speaker 1: that's that rotation. But you know what, there is someone 606 00:28:37,434 --> 00:28:39,714 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about because I heard gasps 607 00:28:39,754 --> 00:28:42,834 Speaker 1: around the office, everyone loving what she was wearing. So 608 00:28:42,914 --> 00:28:45,674 Speaker 1: I quickly had a look and I didn't like it. 609 00:28:46,994 --> 00:28:50,114 Speaker 1: Addison Ray, Okay, I'm gonna have to defend my girl 610 00:28:50,114 --> 00:28:52,834 Speaker 1: Otis and got a big, massive day for me. Okay, 611 00:28:52,914 --> 00:28:56,554 Speaker 1: I liked her last series of Red Carpet looks a 612 00:28:56,554 --> 00:28:58,914 Speaker 1: bit more like I loved when she last year did 613 00:28:58,914 --> 00:29:01,354 Speaker 1: the pointy bra and the big skirt and they were 614 00:29:01,394 --> 00:29:04,434 Speaker 1: both so ill fitting but just looked like such a moment. 615 00:29:05,274 --> 00:29:07,554 Speaker 1: This I don't so she's wearing or she's a liar. 616 00:29:07,634 --> 00:29:09,794 Speaker 1: That's important. Yes, she's wearing a lion. It's a totally 617 00:29:09,794 --> 00:29:12,914 Speaker 1: important design. Yes, a totally important side. So it's a 618 00:29:12,994 --> 00:29:17,914 Speaker 1: white dress where completely cut down the middle, going into 619 00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:20,874 Speaker 1: like a poofy almost like a reverse multi reverse mullet 620 00:29:20,914 --> 00:29:24,394 Speaker 1: skirt alltt skirt with a white heel. Yes, I really 621 00:29:24,434 --> 00:29:27,234 Speaker 1: love it. And then it's also I think a little 622 00:29:27,234 --> 00:29:31,034 Speaker 1: bit reminiscent of your Swan dress, right, I was getting 623 00:29:31,034 --> 00:29:36,434 Speaker 1: that vibe from it, But she hasn't committed full not. Yes, 624 00:29:36,594 --> 00:29:40,474 Speaker 1: it's like like a clean lines modern version of the Swan. 625 00:29:40,634 --> 00:29:43,514 Speaker 1: It's that kind of shape. I don't like. The reverse 626 00:29:43,594 --> 00:29:46,834 Speaker 1: mullet I don't like, but that's her. She's like she 627 00:29:46,874 --> 00:29:49,874 Speaker 1: does those kind of retroy things from she retro from 628 00:29:49,874 --> 00:29:52,794 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, which nearly two thousands, I don't know. 629 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,674 Speaker 1: I'd just like to see something different on Addison. I 630 00:29:55,674 --> 00:29:59,234 Speaker 1: think she's done this kind of safe, and it's a 631 00:29:59,234 --> 00:30:01,114 Speaker 1: bit safe than I thought from her. Like again I 632 00:30:01,114 --> 00:30:03,914 Speaker 1: thought that the bra and full skirt, and but I 633 00:30:03,954 --> 00:30:05,674 Speaker 1: also think of like when she went to the Metcalla 634 00:30:05,714 --> 00:30:08,034 Speaker 1: and she's like, it's a vintage gown from two thousand 635 00:30:08,034 --> 00:30:12,514 Speaker 1: and three, like, girl, get out of here. I guess 636 00:30:12,514 --> 00:30:15,074 Speaker 1: it is. I'm also kind of a little bit sick 637 00:30:15,194 --> 00:30:18,754 Speaker 1: of seeing her nickers. Oh no, I'll never get over that. 638 00:30:20,434 --> 00:30:22,514 Speaker 1: I might be hypocritical for me to say after just 639 00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:25,314 Speaker 1: going on about how great it was seeing Chapple roads 640 00:30:25,554 --> 00:30:28,474 Speaker 1: Bobs on the red carpet, But it's just it's only 641 00:30:28,514 --> 00:30:30,634 Speaker 1: that we've just seen the same thing from Addison. I 642 00:30:30,674 --> 00:30:32,754 Speaker 1: mean that's how she did her album promo, which I loved, 643 00:30:32,794 --> 00:30:34,794 Speaker 1: by the way, when she was doing her album promo 644 00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:37,514 Speaker 1: and on like the streets of LA paying for her 645 00:30:37,554 --> 00:30:40,874 Speaker 1: parking and you could see like her album, you know, 646 00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:44,074 Speaker 1: release schedule on her nickers. Great. That was so fun 647 00:30:44,114 --> 00:30:47,554 Speaker 1: and silly and funny and so like referencing those early 648 00:30:47,634 --> 00:30:50,474 Speaker 1: naughties pat picks of all the big girls. I loved it. 649 00:30:50,674 --> 00:30:52,274 Speaker 1: But I just feel like she's done it. I want 650 00:30:52,314 --> 00:30:54,514 Speaker 1: to see something new from Addison. Yeah, that's your thing 651 00:30:54,594 --> 00:30:55,874 Speaker 1: is as much as I love it and like her 652 00:30:55,914 --> 00:30:58,354 Speaker 1: makeup looks beautiful, but like natural and pretty. Again, I 653 00:30:58,394 --> 00:31:01,074 Speaker 1: think maybe she went a little safe when she's been 654 00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:03,674 Speaker 1: a bit more headline making in the past. But I 655 00:31:03,714 --> 00:31:05,994 Speaker 1: also think of just like when you see the videos 656 00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:08,594 Speaker 1: from her tour and she's sometimes on stage wearing like 657 00:31:08,674 --> 00:31:11,474 Speaker 1: little to no makeup, her hair's not done, she's wearing 658 00:31:11,594 --> 00:31:13,354 Speaker 1: just a bra and a pair of denim shorts, and 659 00:31:13,354 --> 00:31:15,394 Speaker 1: she looks like she just ran off the beach, like 660 00:31:15,434 --> 00:31:18,114 Speaker 1: forgot she was performing to thousands of people, ran off 661 00:31:18,114 --> 00:31:20,714 Speaker 1: the beach, gets on stage. But that so works, yes, 662 00:31:20,874 --> 00:31:23,954 Speaker 1: like great memory. And she's so pretty and she's got 663 00:31:23,954 --> 00:31:27,874 Speaker 1: this like glorious hair as well, So she's a gorgeous girl. 664 00:31:27,914 --> 00:31:30,314 Speaker 1: She gets away with whatever she wears. Your face, I 665 00:31:30,394 --> 00:31:32,274 Speaker 1: just would have liked to see more. Now. I tell 666 00:31:32,274 --> 00:31:35,394 Speaker 1: you who I think looks absolutely gorgeous is Olivia Dean, 667 00:31:35,474 --> 00:31:38,594 Speaker 1: who always does. She is like the music industry is 668 00:31:38,674 --> 00:31:42,554 Speaker 1: darling at the moment. She just keeps getting those number ones, 669 00:31:42,754 --> 00:31:45,914 Speaker 1: she keeps selling out her tours. Please, if anyone wants 670 00:31:45,954 --> 00:31:49,714 Speaker 1: to sell me tickets, I'm desperate for them. She also 671 00:31:49,834 --> 00:31:56,354 Speaker 1: same tickets whatever you like, chilling cash for comment tickets 672 00:31:56,354 --> 00:31:58,154 Speaker 1: will comment on this pole, which we will do, by 673 00:31:58,154 --> 00:32:02,914 Speaker 1: the way, We'll do anything for Olivia Dean tickets. But 674 00:32:03,034 --> 00:32:06,354 Speaker 1: she looks stunning, she always does, so that the fashion 675 00:32:06,394 --> 00:32:08,554 Speaker 1: world are obsessed with her, the music world or obsessed 676 00:32:08,554 --> 00:32:10,634 Speaker 1: with her. Olivia Dean's not a long career ahead of 677 00:32:10,634 --> 00:32:13,434 Speaker 1: her because she's super talented, super gorgeous, and she wears 678 00:32:13,434 --> 00:32:16,154 Speaker 1: a dress. Well, so she's in Chanelle today. I think 679 00:32:16,194 --> 00:32:18,914 Speaker 1: she looks gorgeous in it. I am a little concerned 680 00:32:19,274 --> 00:32:24,194 Speaker 1: about her wearing Chanelle only because Chanelle have not done 681 00:32:24,234 --> 00:32:27,754 Speaker 1: the best job with dressing celebrities in recent years. I mean, 682 00:32:27,834 --> 00:32:31,154 Speaker 1: they committed awful crimes on Margot Robbie and we're all 683 00:32:31,194 --> 00:32:34,914 Speaker 1: glad that she's free. So fair she did, she did. 684 00:32:35,394 --> 00:32:37,394 Speaker 1: I would love to see or I would love to 685 00:32:37,434 --> 00:32:41,194 Speaker 1: see Olivia with Valentino. Yeah, okay, I just don't want 686 00:32:41,274 --> 00:32:43,954 Speaker 1: her being saddled with Chanelle forever. But she does look 687 00:32:43,954 --> 00:32:45,874 Speaker 1: gorgeous in it. We know the money's good, girls, but 688 00:32:45,914 --> 00:32:48,234 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, if it's that between it and a 689 00:32:48,274 --> 00:32:50,274 Speaker 1: bad dress. Okay, I don't mean, I don't mean this 690 00:32:50,314 --> 00:32:53,594 Speaker 1: to sound bad. I didn't love this only because again 691 00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:57,034 Speaker 1: Olivia Dean looks stunning and the styling like her face, 692 00:32:57,074 --> 00:33:00,314 Speaker 1: her hair, and also knowing like that voices living within 693 00:33:00,394 --> 00:33:02,394 Speaker 1: her is just like, so she's ten out of ten, 694 00:33:02,714 --> 00:33:04,674 Speaker 1: I think, in fairness to her, I think why was 695 00:33:04,674 --> 00:33:06,714 Speaker 1: little underwhelmed when I saw this as I saw it 696 00:33:06,714 --> 00:33:08,634 Speaker 1: as like at the end of looking at like all 697 00:33:08,674 --> 00:33:11,754 Speaker 1: the red carpet looks, and there's so much white and 698 00:33:11,794 --> 00:33:14,714 Speaker 1: black and so much cream, and everyone's got a very 699 00:33:14,754 --> 00:33:17,634 Speaker 1: similar silhouette. Yeah, with the way. So I think there's 700 00:33:17,754 --> 00:33:20,194 Speaker 1: so much sameness on the Grammys Red carpet this year, 701 00:33:20,274 --> 00:33:23,194 Speaker 1: which is interesting for a carpet where more people, like 702 00:33:23,194 --> 00:33:25,354 Speaker 1: they usually ar make bigger statements like it's not the 703 00:33:25,354 --> 00:33:28,434 Speaker 1: Oscars the Emmys where sometimes all the SAgs where people 704 00:33:28,474 --> 00:33:30,074 Speaker 1: feel like they have to play it a bit safe, 705 00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:32,474 Speaker 1: but yeah, they're they're promoting a drama, like it's the 706 00:33:32,514 --> 00:33:35,434 Speaker 1: Grammy's Red carpet. It's where we get those big iconic looks. 707 00:33:35,434 --> 00:33:37,314 Speaker 1: That's where people take a risk, yeah, and they want 708 00:33:37,314 --> 00:33:39,954 Speaker 1: to express themselves ass and you know, they go a 709 00:33:39,994 --> 00:33:42,074 Speaker 1: bit rock and roll or whatever. You know. So when 710 00:33:42,074 --> 00:33:43,674 Speaker 1: I saw her dress and I was like, it's not 711 00:33:43,794 --> 00:33:45,674 Speaker 1: her fault that she was the last black and white 712 00:33:45,754 --> 00:33:47,394 Speaker 1: dress that I saw on the carpet, But I think 713 00:33:47,394 --> 00:33:49,314 Speaker 1: when I saw it, I was like, oh, I wanted 714 00:33:49,314 --> 00:33:51,154 Speaker 1: more of I've just seen her wear some things that 715 00:33:51,194 --> 00:33:53,514 Speaker 1: are such standard. That's fair, and she looks so good 716 00:33:53,554 --> 00:33:55,434 Speaker 1: in color, Like she looks so good in like a 717 00:33:55,514 --> 00:33:59,394 Speaker 1: burnt orange and like yellow. Only her no stylist team, 718 00:33:59,394 --> 00:34:01,354 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure they saw World of chosen this Chanel dress, 719 00:34:01,354 --> 00:34:04,434 Speaker 1: like because it's gorgeous, But if only you, like you 720 00:34:04,474 --> 00:34:06,714 Speaker 1: get the heads up. Everyone else is wearing black and white, 721 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:10,674 Speaker 1: and of people have that like ball gowny silhouette, whether 722 00:34:10,714 --> 00:34:12,913 Speaker 1: it's a half mullet or a kind of straighter gown 723 00:34:12,994 --> 00:34:15,314 Speaker 1: or like that big kind of sweeping dress that Rose 724 00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,714 Speaker 1: was wearing. But it's almost like you would have been 725 00:34:17,834 --> 00:34:20,073 Speaker 1: such a standout moment if you had worn not black 726 00:34:20,114 --> 00:34:22,314 Speaker 1: and white. Yes on a year when everyone else is 727 00:34:22,714 --> 00:34:25,914 Speaker 1: Olivia Dean looks beautiful. I just wish it was Okay, 728 00:34:26,394 --> 00:34:31,433 Speaker 1: breaking news, we do have Lady Breaking recognize happening, This 729 00:34:31,594 --> 00:34:36,754 Speaker 1: is happening live, but in this incredible black feathered number 730 00:34:37,634 --> 00:34:45,754 Speaker 1: it is here is Lady Gaga looking incredibly Lady Gaga. No, 731 00:34:45,954 --> 00:34:50,114 Speaker 1: you're disappointed. I know you're disappointed so much samees this year. 732 00:34:50,354 --> 00:34:53,834 Speaker 1: That is beautiful is that feather detail, it's the entire dress. 733 00:34:54,394 --> 00:34:57,714 Speaker 1: A black feathered, high necked gown is beautiful. But again, 734 00:34:58,474 --> 00:35:00,754 Speaker 1: like I've seen this will be carried inside as an egg. 735 00:35:00,954 --> 00:35:02,873 Speaker 1: I've seen her wear a dress made of meat. I've 736 00:35:02,874 --> 00:35:05,714 Speaker 1: seen her disrobe going up the Metgala stairs and like 737 00:35:05,754 --> 00:35:08,074 Speaker 1: putting on a show with like twelve a cane. I've 738 00:35:08,074 --> 00:35:09,594 Speaker 1: seen so much from her that seeing her in a 739 00:35:09,634 --> 00:35:14,514 Speaker 1: black gown she as it looks red whelming. It reminds 740 00:35:14,514 --> 00:35:16,794 Speaker 1: me a bit of what of Catnus. Oh my god, 741 00:35:16,794 --> 00:35:19,274 Speaker 1: it does like it's giving that mocking She looks like 742 00:35:19,274 --> 00:35:21,433 Speaker 1: the mocking She's dressed like the mocking ja. Oh my god, 743 00:35:21,474 --> 00:35:24,794 Speaker 1: she's doing secret promo for the upcoming Hunger Games movie. 744 00:35:24,514 --> 00:35:27,034 Speaker 1: Maybe she's done the song for it. Okay that I 745 00:35:27,034 --> 00:35:29,433 Speaker 1: would love song for it. And this is an easter. 746 00:35:29,834 --> 00:35:32,114 Speaker 1: I don't mean to call it everything. I just if 747 00:35:32,154 --> 00:35:34,034 Speaker 1: I see one more person in black and white or 748 00:35:34,194 --> 00:35:36,074 Speaker 1: just black or white, I just think, was there a 749 00:35:36,114 --> 00:35:38,754 Speaker 1: color band this year? Was there a band on doing 750 00:35:38,794 --> 00:35:41,954 Speaker 1: anything interesting? Chapel's out here, literally her nipples are holding 751 00:35:42,034 --> 00:35:44,794 Speaker 1: up the entire Grammy's Red Carpet. That's where we're at 752 00:35:44,874 --> 00:35:47,913 Speaker 1: right now. I have to agree with you on the 753 00:35:47,914 --> 00:35:50,794 Speaker 1: fact that Chapel is definitely the standout on the Red 754 00:35:50,794 --> 00:35:55,674 Speaker 1: carpet this year. Justin Bieber's arrived with Hailey. What Hailey really, 755 00:35:56,354 --> 00:35:59,514 Speaker 1: I'm really nervous to tell you. No, is she in white? 756 00:35:59,834 --> 00:36:04,034 Speaker 1: She's in black. She looks really pretty. I'm going to 757 00:36:04,114 --> 00:36:08,594 Speaker 1: show you. It's underwhelming. Yeah, to show is a black 758 00:36:08,634 --> 00:36:11,274 Speaker 1: strapless gut. Yeah, it's really. I mean, I'm going to 759 00:36:11,354 --> 00:36:14,354 Speaker 1: kill her a pass because that's not her style, and 760 00:36:14,434 --> 00:36:17,154 Speaker 1: it's not she is there to support her husband, and 761 00:36:17,194 --> 00:36:19,114 Speaker 1: also that is very in keeping with her style. She's 762 00:36:19,154 --> 00:36:22,194 Speaker 1: a minimal scowl. She often wears a black calm gown 763 00:36:22,274 --> 00:36:24,393 Speaker 1: or a white colemn ground. She's picked the black one. 764 00:36:24,674 --> 00:36:27,154 Speaker 1: Just her opening up her huge closet. It's just like 765 00:36:27,194 --> 00:36:30,354 Speaker 1: a row of black on one and white on the other. 766 00:36:30,714 --> 00:36:33,354 Speaker 1: And she just picked one of her black dresses, which 767 00:36:33,394 --> 00:36:35,514 Speaker 1: is totally fine. Look, there is a little bit of 768 00:36:35,594 --> 00:36:38,433 Speaker 1: color there, I mean, and her necklace is pretty. Justin 769 00:36:38,474 --> 00:36:39,993 Speaker 1: looks fine. Do you have any thoughts on him before 770 00:36:39,994 --> 00:36:43,194 Speaker 1: we move on to the other gals. Yeah, he looks fine, 771 00:36:43,314 --> 00:36:47,754 Speaker 1: but they look happy. That's nice. Yeah, Yeah, they're there happy. 772 00:36:48,274 --> 00:36:50,073 Speaker 1: So where did you get happy from? Well, he doesn't 773 00:36:50,074 --> 00:36:54,314 Speaker 1: look angry the last few photos I've seen him, and 774 00:36:54,434 --> 00:36:56,154 Speaker 1: he looks very angry, and he just looks like he's 775 00:36:56,154 --> 00:36:59,234 Speaker 1: at the Grammies and he has an employment obligation. He's 776 00:36:59,234 --> 00:37:01,594 Speaker 1: got a lot of knobs tonight. So maybe he's hoping 777 00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:03,234 Speaker 1: to come away with an award. That would be cute. 778 00:37:03,234 --> 00:37:04,994 Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing her on stage and giving 779 00:37:05,034 --> 00:37:07,073 Speaker 1: his acceptance speeches, and he will give a little shato 780 00:37:07,314 --> 00:37:10,354 Speaker 1: to Baby Jack Blues. Yeah they're song Yeah, I would 781 00:37:10,394 --> 00:37:13,634 Speaker 1: love to see that. You know. I also thought groups, Okay, 782 00:37:13,754 --> 00:37:16,594 Speaker 1: you don't get enough groups these days. But cats I 783 00:37:16,674 --> 00:37:19,913 Speaker 1: are there and they look like they've really nailed girl 784 00:37:19,954 --> 00:37:22,354 Speaker 1: band dressing for a glamor of a I love girl. 785 00:37:22,754 --> 00:37:25,594 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you they are and white, but 786 00:37:26,234 --> 00:37:28,234 Speaker 1: I think they look fabulous, and I think that they 787 00:37:28,274 --> 00:37:30,993 Speaker 1: look individually all gorgeous. You know, often when you get 788 00:37:30,994 --> 00:37:32,834 Speaker 1: a girl group and there's a lot of them as well, 789 00:37:32,994 --> 00:37:35,154 Speaker 1: there's always like one that you're like, oh, she got 790 00:37:35,194 --> 00:37:38,954 Speaker 1: the bed dress, But they all look really lovely. The 791 00:37:39,754 --> 00:37:45,354 Speaker 1: Tina and old. Yes, the Pelle Michelle. Yes, my favorite 792 00:37:45,394 --> 00:37:48,594 Speaker 1: blog back in the day, Paor Michelle. But they all 793 00:37:48,594 --> 00:37:52,154 Speaker 1: look gorgeous. At the other girlies that look fantastic altogether. Again, sorry, 794 00:37:52,154 --> 00:37:54,194 Speaker 1: they are in black. I don't know why I feel 795 00:37:54,194 --> 00:37:56,714 Speaker 1: like I need to apologize you shoe somewhat out the 796 00:37:56,714 --> 00:37:59,834 Speaker 1: fact that you and I excuse me, my skirt is blue. 797 00:37:59,874 --> 00:38:02,634 Speaker 1: And also I'm not on the gravy. It is blue, 798 00:38:03,274 --> 00:38:06,274 Speaker 1: not on the Grammys Red carpet. That's all. I didn't 799 00:38:06,314 --> 00:38:08,834 Speaker 1: have unlimited. I didn't even eye on my top this morning. 800 00:38:09,074 --> 00:38:12,794 Speaker 1: But again, I'm to be giving fashion advice. Behim. Sisters 801 00:38:13,314 --> 00:38:17,354 Speaker 1: all look fantastic. All again, MATCHI MATCHI dressing. I love that. 802 00:38:17,434 --> 00:38:19,314 Speaker 1: I want to see that from girl bands. I want 803 00:38:19,394 --> 00:38:21,513 Speaker 1: you know I love a girl bad moment. Yeah, me too. 804 00:38:21,834 --> 00:38:23,114 Speaker 1: We do have a little bit of color on the 805 00:38:23,114 --> 00:38:24,274 Speaker 1: red cart But I just feel like I have to 806 00:38:24,354 --> 00:38:26,914 Speaker 1: just before people think I didn't accurately report what was 807 00:38:26,954 --> 00:38:29,714 Speaker 1: going on Zara last time I loved Oh, I think 808 00:38:29,834 --> 00:38:32,674 Speaker 1: she is Oh my god. Okay, at least she's wearing color, 809 00:38:32,794 --> 00:38:35,114 Speaker 1: so she's I mean. The thing is, this dress is 810 00:38:35,194 --> 00:38:37,993 Speaker 1: timeless in the way that it's so like over the top, 811 00:38:38,114 --> 00:38:40,234 Speaker 1: bubbly gum pop. It looks like it could have been 812 00:38:40,274 --> 00:38:42,674 Speaker 1: worn by someone in the nineties, the early two thousands 813 00:38:42,754 --> 00:38:45,554 Speaker 1: or now. It's such a pop girl look, so it's 814 00:38:45,594 --> 00:38:49,354 Speaker 1: timeless in a way of it's not very stylish, but 815 00:38:49,434 --> 00:38:51,953 Speaker 1: it's always there's always one pop girl who will wear 816 00:38:52,034 --> 00:38:54,194 Speaker 1: this look. And this year at Zara Larson, so she's 817 00:38:54,194 --> 00:38:58,474 Speaker 1: wearing a crop top with like a one shoulder and 818 00:38:58,514 --> 00:39:03,154 Speaker 1: a skirt and it's almost like a neon yellow sequence. Yeah, 819 00:39:03,194 --> 00:39:05,954 Speaker 1: it's almost like a sha true sort of sequence. And 820 00:39:06,034 --> 00:39:09,393 Speaker 1: it has another peace that goes around the waist that 821 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,234 Speaker 1: she's not wearing on the carpet but she wore on stage, 822 00:39:12,434 --> 00:39:15,074 Speaker 1: and there's like spikes coming up from it. Kind of 823 00:39:15,074 --> 00:39:16,554 Speaker 1: looked like a bit of a like it was like 824 00:39:16,754 --> 00:39:21,274 Speaker 1: sun rays or something exactly, because it looked more costumey, 825 00:39:21,394 --> 00:39:24,194 Speaker 1: but on the red carpet, I was a bit underwhelmed 826 00:39:24,194 --> 00:39:25,714 Speaker 1: for the fact that it just to me looked like 827 00:39:25,954 --> 00:39:29,234 Speaker 1: kind of typical pop. Yeah, it looks very old school pop, 828 00:39:29,274 --> 00:39:30,794 Speaker 1: but I like that because no one else is doing 829 00:39:30,794 --> 00:39:32,714 Speaker 1: it this year in a sea of black and white 830 00:39:32,954 --> 00:39:35,914 Speaker 1: like shift dresses and ball gown with the extra piece, 831 00:39:36,274 --> 00:39:39,794 Speaker 1: it looks a bit like Bob Mackey inspire like an 832 00:39:39,834 --> 00:39:42,394 Speaker 1: old like shaer Bob Mackey look. But this was actually 833 00:39:42,434 --> 00:39:45,554 Speaker 1: a Swiss designer that did this one called Jermina, and 834 00:39:45,594 --> 00:39:47,954 Speaker 1: there are a Swiss curturist. So I do love that 835 00:39:48,034 --> 00:39:51,474 Speaker 1: she's wrapping her heart. Yeah, well exactly least she stood 836 00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:54,194 Speaker 1: out to me and then like FK Twigs. I really 837 00:39:54,234 --> 00:39:57,794 Speaker 1: loved that look again, very hard to describe it, kind 838 00:39:57,794 --> 00:40:01,074 Speaker 1: of like beige, almost like Peter pan Esk. It looks 839 00:40:01,074 --> 00:40:02,954 Speaker 1: like she's soda in a tree and came down to 840 00:40:02,994 --> 00:40:05,593 Speaker 1: the to the red carpet and she's holding a red 841 00:40:05,674 --> 00:40:08,194 Speaker 1: flower and she's holding a book in her hand that 842 00:40:08,314 --> 00:40:11,354 Speaker 1: might be her purse. Oh yeah, a red flower and 843 00:40:11,394 --> 00:40:14,593 Speaker 1: a book. I love the accessory. Yeah, I love again, 844 00:40:14,714 --> 00:40:16,674 Speaker 1: just looking a bit different. She's got the bangles. She 845 00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:18,834 Speaker 1: looks like she's also about she looks both like a 846 00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:20,994 Speaker 1: fairy and that like she's about to go into a 847 00:40:21,034 --> 00:40:24,154 Speaker 1: medieval battle. Yeah, both things at the same time. You 848 00:40:24,194 --> 00:40:27,474 Speaker 1: know her else looks fabulous Miley Cyrus oh in the 849 00:40:27,594 --> 00:40:30,594 Speaker 1: suit yeah, and the selene it's very rock and roll. 850 00:40:30,714 --> 00:40:33,393 Speaker 1: I love it. I think she looks incredible. Yeah. And 851 00:40:33,434 --> 00:40:35,433 Speaker 1: also I don't sometimes don't love a suit on a 852 00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:38,394 Speaker 1: red carpet, but this one I feel like, I quite 853 00:40:38,514 --> 00:40:41,114 Speaker 1: like because it is a bit of a statement with 854 00:40:41,354 --> 00:40:43,514 Speaker 1: the way like it's tied, and it's got like almost 855 00:40:43,554 --> 00:40:46,554 Speaker 1: like a bruch detail. She's wearing the little leather gloves 856 00:40:46,554 --> 00:40:49,433 Speaker 1: and the heels, and she's wearing the sunglasses and it 857 00:40:49,434 --> 00:40:52,514 Speaker 1: all just works. It all just looks very Miley esque. 858 00:40:52,674 --> 00:40:54,594 Speaker 1: Of course, she's in black and white because apparently everyone 859 00:40:54,634 --> 00:40:57,594 Speaker 1: was threatened not to wear anything interesting. It's like Zara Larson, 860 00:40:57,634 --> 00:40:59,514 Speaker 1: who's gone missing, I'm sure, for wearing color on the 861 00:40:59,554 --> 00:41:02,154 Speaker 1: red carpet. So we have to wrap up. But I'm 862 00:41:02,194 --> 00:41:05,514 Speaker 1: really sad because Harry Styles has not shown. His fee 863 00:41:05,634 --> 00:41:07,674 Speaker 1: is like a refreshing home computer. It's kind of shotup. 864 00:41:07,834 --> 00:41:10,033 Speaker 1: We'll do some more Grammy's Chat on tomorrow's episode because 865 00:41:10,034 --> 00:41:12,354 Speaker 1: the ceremony hasn't even started to night or I'm sure 866 00:41:12,354 --> 00:41:14,474 Speaker 1: we're in for some and we know he's coming because 867 00:41:14,474 --> 00:41:16,634 Speaker 1: he's presenting. I was just hoping to see him and 868 00:41:16,714 --> 00:41:19,754 Speaker 1: Zoe Kravitz walk down that carpet. I don't think that 869 00:41:19,754 --> 00:41:22,034 Speaker 1: they know he's never ever ever done anything with a 870 00:41:22,074 --> 00:41:25,354 Speaker 1: girlfriend publicly before. Yeah, but hey, a girl can live 871 00:41:25,354 --> 00:41:28,034 Speaker 1: in hope. Yeah, one day, I'm sure one day they'll 872 00:41:28,034 --> 00:41:29,994 Speaker 1: go to the Grammy's Lot Oscars. It'll be something like 873 00:41:29,994 --> 00:41:31,514 Speaker 1: that when he knows he's either going to win an 874 00:41:31,554 --> 00:41:34,433 Speaker 1: oscar or he's gonna win album. It's definitely not his night, 875 00:41:34,514 --> 00:41:36,194 Speaker 1: so it's not really the time to just not gonna 876 00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:38,354 Speaker 1: waste his big red carpet moment on tonight, but we 877 00:41:38,394 --> 00:41:40,473 Speaker 1: will definitely have to catch up at some point talk 878 00:41:40,474 --> 00:41:43,033 Speaker 1: about what he does wear. Okay, yes, yes, we will 879 00:41:43,114 --> 00:41:45,754 Speaker 1: stay tuned for tomorrow's episode. Well, thank you so much 880 00:41:45,794 --> 00:41:47,914 Speaker 1: for joining us today, and make sure that you're following 881 00:41:47,914 --> 00:41:50,433 Speaker 1: our social accounts, So where the Spill on TikTok and 882 00:41:50,474 --> 00:41:53,554 Speaker 1: The Spill podcast on Instagram, because not only be posting 883 00:41:53,554 --> 00:41:56,434 Speaker 1: the photos everything we talked about today, We'll be posting 884 00:41:56,594 --> 00:41:59,074 Speaker 1: videos from the event, will be posting behind the scenes moments. 885 00:41:59,114 --> 00:42:02,034 Speaker 1: We'll be posting some gossipy things that maybe you missed 886 00:42:02,034 --> 00:42:04,114 Speaker 1: from the ceremony. And maybe you can have an extra 887 00:42:04,154 --> 00:42:06,234 Speaker 1: good look at chapels nipples and try and work out 888 00:42:06,274 --> 00:42:08,714 Speaker 1: exactly what is going on there because that feels important. 889 00:42:08,954 --> 00:42:10,994 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for Breed for joining us today. 890 00:42:12,794 --> 00:42:15,594 Speaker 1: Harry Styles appears very soon for you. This bill is 891 00:42:15,634 --> 00:42:18,794 Speaker 1: produced by Militias Warren with some production by Scott Stronik. 892 00:42:18,954 --> 00:42:20,913 Speaker 1: And we'll see you back in this speed right nearly 893 00:42:20,954 --> 00:42:34,194 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning from morning tea, Bye bye. Mamma Mia acknowledges 894 00:42:34,274 --> 00:42:36,674 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this 895 00:42:36,754 --> 00:42:40,674 Speaker 1: podcast on the Gatigor people of the eorination. 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