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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face.

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Speaker 1: My name is Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCarron, and Lee

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Speaker 1: and I are both sitting here with a blue shirt on.

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Speaker 2: Yours this blue and white stripe, and mine is a

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Speaker 2: baby blue and this is called an Oxford shirt.

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Speaker 1: You know, both of them could have used denying.

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Speaker 2: I steamed mine this morning Sturday. I had annoying crinkly fabric.

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Speaker 2: That's like then you can't sit down anyway. Hey, this

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Speaker 2: is not nothing to where it's you, beauty. What do

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Speaker 2: we do every day?

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Speaker 1: We do something different, but on Mondays we answer your

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Speaker 1: questions and you know what we are kicking things off

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Speaker 1: today with one of our favorite types of emergant's answer.

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Speaker 1: It is a pervy one. I couldn't help but wonder

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Speaker 1: asked me anything you ask any questions? So good?

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Speaker 2: So a lovely lady Rocky has DM d Reckon. It's

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Speaker 2: like Rochelle or like rock Sanne Rocks. Oh maybe her

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Speaker 2: name's just Rocky. This is so good. And when I

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Speaker 2: thought about it, I thought I didn't have an answer.

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Speaker 1: Now I've put a million.

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Speaker 2: So the question is, if you were both ladies of

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Speaker 2: schedule look like?

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Speaker 1: Hair, face, body, all of it.

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Speaker 2: I play this game with my friends sometimes it is

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Speaker 2: so fun to dream. Omg okay, you.

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Speaker 1: Can kick Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, at first I was like, well, we're kind of

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Speaker 2: in the industry, like we do get a lot of

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Speaker 2: things for free if we want, you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, I really want anything.

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Speaker 2: And then when I started thinking, boy, oh boy, I

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Speaker 2: need to become this version of Lee, which is win

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Speaker 2: fifty million dollars and obviously just quit all my jobs

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Speaker 2: because this is my full time job. Now, okay, I

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Speaker 2: want someone to come to my house to style my

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Speaker 1: They don't have to wash it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like getting my hair washed at the basin,

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Speaker 2: but I just want them to style a cool girl wave.

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Speaker 1: What is the point of that? Yeah, you're not washing

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Speaker 2: Wait, okay, So Adam Wintour has someone to come and

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Speaker 2: fix her bob and trim her fringe every morning at home.

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Speaker 2: I only want every second day. Then I want my

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Speaker 2: fast and then slow, and then I just want to

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Speaker 2: be like, come now.

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Speaker 1: I'll turned into raw bossy bitch too.

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Speaker 2: I want a full at home LED body like the

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Speaker 2: Selarium type look vibe, but it's full LED with a

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Speaker 2: fortnightly lymphatic drainage body massage, the really firm one where

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Speaker 2: they get in there and you just like what hurt me.

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Speaker 2: I want someone to come over or maybe because I'm

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Speaker 2: love like you know that Tokyo head spa. Yes. Birthday

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Speaker 2: probably every three weeks a one hour, very firm facial massage.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to be raped. In this life

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Speaker 2: you are and last, but not least. I mean, all

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Speaker 2: of this is completely unrealistic. I want one of those

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's not much, No, not much at all. What's yours? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So I am the lady of leisure. I think I'd

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Speaker 1: been an excellent lady of leisure because I'm very good

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Speaker 1: me too. It is. It's like wellness, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wellness lifestyle. Okay, So she meets me at a local park.

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Speaker 1: because in this dream, man, I've got a big house

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Speaker 2: listening to a podcast? Because I just find it so boring.

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Speaker 1: Well, because I'm a lady of leisure, I have a

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Speaker 1: I can do nothing. Well, I have a massage every day,

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Speaker 2: Because you don't want to have to wash it off

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Speaker 1: I have an elbody bet as well. And I also

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Speaker 1: good painkillers. I'm going to get my monthly needling, but

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes that's something that I do in my regular life.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm like, eh, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: But i still find it annoying to fit in and

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Speaker 2: I've got things to do, like I'm running a charity

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Speaker 1: a lady of leisure that just is beautiful is donning?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it. That was the best

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Speaker 2: if I win the lotto? And then when I've stopped daydreaming,

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Speaker 2: I get so sad because it's not real. Okay, coming

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Speaker 2: up after the break something much more realistic but.

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Speaker 1: Helpful, Hunt the Dream.

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Speaker 2: A question about switching up your products between season and

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Speaker 2: how and why.

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Speaker 1: We do that, so Joanna has asked killing Lee please

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Speaker 1: help with something that has always confused me. I know

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to switch products in winter and summer for

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Speaker 1: the different seasons, but why do you switch your products?

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Speaker 1: And if you do, which ones do you change? Excellent question, Joanna.

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Speaker 2: It's not a rule, and it depends on a lot

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Speaker 2: you know, a foundation that's not as dewy whatever it is. Also,

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Speaker 2: Kelly and I are very different. She's dry skin. I'm

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Speaker 1: You love winter because you get to play more with skincare.

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Speaker 2: I can do more layers in winter, but then my

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Speaker 2: body's dry and gross, and I still do bodycare, but

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Speaker 2: like it's annoying, but also you just wear jeans.

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Speaker 1: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: So what do I switch up? I definitely use I

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Speaker 2: guess a bit more skincare in that I can do

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Speaker 2: skin can really only take serum, a light way moisturizer

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Speaker 2: and sunscreen in the mornings in summer.

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Speaker 1: I never switch my hair care because of the seasons.

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Speaker 2: I actually need to care for my hair more in

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Speaker 2: summer because of the swimming and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I probably should. I mean, this is a lot of shoulds.

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Speaker 2: Exfoliate my body more and then do more juicy hydration

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Speaker 2: because if you are wearing you know, pants or stockings

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Speaker 2: and inside heating or fire or air coorn, you kind

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Speaker 2: your legs. And I barely even shave my legs in

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Speaker 2: the winter. Very hairy right now, Yeah, I used to

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Speaker 2: switch my cleanses because I used to use it, you know,

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Speaker 2: more hardcore cleanser in summer. But now with my age

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Speaker 2: you know, I double cleans with like a balm and

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Speaker 2: then use my cellar water or a milky cleanser anyway,

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Speaker 2: so I don't need to change from summer to winter.

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Speaker 2: So no, I don't really. I probably just maybe use

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Speaker 2: a bit more dewy skin care and makeup in winter

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Speaker 2: when it's not as humid and fitzy.

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Speaker 1: If you've nailed it, you don't have to. Like, it's

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Speaker 1: not a rule.

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Speaker 2: And maybe if I, you know, I'm gradual tanning in summer,

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Speaker 1: What about you, Well, I think, as I'm a dry,

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Speaker 1: Root off the red fleeting my goodness, dear nappy rush cream,

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Speaker 2: Or you're sick of plass like anything that's kind of

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Speaker 1: Then dressing in winter is also more fun. Winter is

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Speaker 1: Still swim in winter. But it's not as enjoyable as

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Speaker 1: some clever uses for oil from Lea.

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Speaker 2: What a.

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Speaker 1: You macup packs? All right, well, I better go first.

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Speaker 2: Mine actually came from an ex Mamma Mer employee. She's

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Speaker 2: down in Melbourne and I've got a beauty brand that

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Speaker 1: I love the smell how much.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I said it like that, how

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Speaker 2: oh no, I use it as my makeup remover, as

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Speaker 2: you absolutely can.

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Speaker 1: It's just a lovely oil.

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Speaker 2: But then I was listening to an episode with Erin

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Speaker 2: and Aeron was like, you use the moisturizer before you

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Speaker 2: kitchen olive oil. Yuck.

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Speaker 1: You would smell like you're cooking something.

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Speaker 2: Listen as a makeup remover, like your first clean okay,

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Speaker 1: My point is a lot of oils are just oils,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people I know have olive oil

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Speaker 1: Stuff originated from.

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Speaker 2: Probably you don't use like canol oil, but if you've

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Speaker 2: or I use good old body oil.

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Speaker 1: When you were growing up, did your mom like fry

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Speaker 2: But yes, my mum literally used one of those bundles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then reuse it. I'm talking about like my extra

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Speaker 2: I use a body oil or any oil when I

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Speaker 2: shave my face as the slip.

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Speaker 1: So get your oil out, Yeah, get oily, what's yours?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm so intrigued. I mean, it's not that interesting,

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Speaker 1: So the doctor winds barrier protect Sarah made balm. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: and it just sort of keeps it looking glowy. I

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Speaker 1: press so I don't move the makeup around, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: You try doing that before the makeup to make sure

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Speaker 2: that area is extra juicy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But then it's harder to get makeup on. So

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Speaker 1: I just find like to put it on afterwards your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been finding that too, I think just because

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Speaker 1: Skin's like I'm still combo, but the drive it's just

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Speaker 1: up at your local pharmacy off I Go. It's really

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Speaker 1: for like, you know, locking everything in. It's incredible croaked

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Speaker 1: over makeup as well delicious. Kelly, Well, thank you for listening. Youbies.

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Speaker 1: This episode of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood.

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Speaker 1: Bye Bye