1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,784 --> 00:00:29,744 Speaker 1: to the spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,744 --> 00:00:32,744 Speaker 1: Brodnick and today we have a special guest back in 7 00:00:32,784 --> 00:00:35,064 Speaker 1: the house again. It's Kelly. 8 00:00:35,264 --> 00:00:37,504 Speaker 2: I'm back. He couldn't get rid of me last week. 9 00:00:38,024 --> 00:00:39,784 Speaker 1: It's like the end of the horror movie where they 10 00:00:39,824 --> 00:00:41,624 Speaker 1: shoot the villain and like they think he's dead, but 11 00:00:41,664 --> 00:00:43,544 Speaker 1: they didn't do a head so he rises. 12 00:00:43,864 --> 00:00:45,024 Speaker 2: Ye, I'm still here. 13 00:00:45,624 --> 00:00:48,464 Speaker 1: No, we love having you here. It's my birthday as well, 14 00:00:48,544 --> 00:00:49,304 Speaker 1: So what to today? 15 00:00:49,464 --> 00:00:52,064 Speaker 2: Get yes to get to spend it with the Spillers. 16 00:00:52,184 --> 00:00:54,424 Speaker 1: I can't believe you're saying that on air, that your 17 00:00:54,464 --> 00:00:56,984 Speaker 1: birthday is today. This is the first I'm hearing of this, 18 00:00:57,424 --> 00:00:59,464 Speaker 1: listening to me prattle on about the air conditioning not 19 00:00:59,504 --> 00:01:01,864 Speaker 1: working for the last twenty minutes out slipping that in. 20 00:01:02,104 --> 00:01:04,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, well anyway, it is won't out there. I have 21 00:01:04,104 --> 00:01:07,264 Speaker 2: got a pink pair of pouty pants on oh am, 22 00:01:07,304 --> 00:01:08,864 Speaker 2: glad to becoming myself A night at home. 23 00:01:10,544 --> 00:01:13,384 Speaker 1: Birthday Kelly McCarran and what a beautiful topic. We have 24 00:01:13,544 --> 00:01:18,504 Speaker 1: to celebrate, Yes, your special day. A series of really 25 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:21,504 Speaker 1: troubling allegations about Kanye West have come out over the 26 00:01:21,624 --> 00:01:23,864 Speaker 1: last couple of days. We're going to dive into that 27 00:01:23,944 --> 00:01:25,704 Speaker 1: because we just know there's a lot of confusion around. 28 00:01:25,744 --> 00:01:27,664 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different headlines. We're going to make 29 00:01:27,744 --> 00:01:30,784 Speaker 1: sense of it all. But first, something light, please, Kelly, 30 00:01:30,864 --> 00:01:31,104 Speaker 1: be a. 31 00:01:31,104 --> 00:01:34,664 Speaker 2: Little bit light, well, very light. Netflix have announced that 32 00:01:34,784 --> 00:01:37,504 Speaker 2: a second season of Nobody Wants This will be made 33 00:01:37,784 --> 00:01:41,064 Speaker 2: simply because the audience wants it. And what makes me 34 00:01:41,184 --> 00:01:43,984 Speaker 2: really happy about this, Laura, is that it's not just 35 00:01:44,064 --> 00:01:48,024 Speaker 2: like Netflix went, oh goodness, may we've made so much money, 36 00:01:48,104 --> 00:01:51,224 Speaker 2: Let's just make a crappy season two because we can. 37 00:01:52,184 --> 00:01:55,624 Speaker 2: There is a lot of unresolved obstacles to the love 38 00:01:55,664 --> 00:01:58,624 Speaker 2: story between Noah and Joeanne still, so, even though it 39 00:01:58,744 --> 00:02:01,904 Speaker 2: ended on like a high, I think that their love 40 00:02:01,984 --> 00:02:05,024 Speaker 2: story actually does have a lot more storylines to be had, 41 00:02:05,224 --> 00:02:07,024 Speaker 2: So the writers can have a lot of fun with 42 00:02:07,104 --> 00:02:07,584 Speaker 2: season two. 43 00:02:07,984 --> 00:02:10,184 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, because it did end on I'm going 44 00:02:10,224 --> 00:02:11,984 Speaker 1: to a bit of a cliffhanger, like they decided to 45 00:02:12,024 --> 00:02:15,104 Speaker 1: stay together, but the resolution about whether they could make 46 00:02:15,144 --> 00:02:17,824 Speaker 1: it work whether they get married, also the resolution with 47 00:02:17,864 --> 00:02:20,424 Speaker 1: their siblings, what's gonna happen there, Like, there's a lot 48 00:02:20,464 --> 00:02:23,384 Speaker 1: of kind of unfinished moments that we have to touch on. 49 00:02:23,464 --> 00:02:26,544 Speaker 1: So apparently they've already been in the writer's room figuring 50 00:02:26,584 --> 00:02:28,424 Speaker 1: out where the show is going to go next. Aaron 51 00:02:28,464 --> 00:02:31,224 Speaker 1: Foster who created the show, and it's based on her life, 52 00:02:31,424 --> 00:02:33,224 Speaker 1: so that she has a lot more content from her 53 00:02:33,224 --> 00:02:35,664 Speaker 1: personal life to bring to the show. Kristen Bell is 54 00:02:35,664 --> 00:02:38,344 Speaker 1: obviously back as the star but also the executive producer, 55 00:02:38,744 --> 00:02:41,904 Speaker 1: and they've got a few new people joining the team. 56 00:02:42,344 --> 00:02:45,384 Speaker 1: Most notably the two new showrunners are Jenny Khner and 57 00:02:45,424 --> 00:02:48,864 Speaker 1: Bruce eric Kaplan, who very infamously were part of the 58 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:52,064 Speaker 1: team of Girls, and in particular Jenny is like a 59 00:02:52,144 --> 00:02:55,864 Speaker 1: force in TV making, particularly women's stories. So I'm so 60 00:02:55,904 --> 00:02:57,784 Speaker 1: excited to see what she brings to the table. 61 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:00,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, do you think that it will be 62 00:03:00,504 --> 00:03:04,344 Speaker 2: launchier maybe season two because they did some very raunchy 63 00:03:04,504 --> 00:03:05,664 Speaker 2: storylines in Girls. 64 00:03:06,064 --> 00:03:08,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, potentially, I mean I think she was more the 65 00:03:08,184 --> 00:03:10,264 Speaker 1: production or she did write with Lena Dunnam. They had 66 00:03:10,464 --> 00:03:12,344 Speaker 1: very infamous falling out once, because when. 67 00:03:12,304 --> 00:03:15,504 Speaker 2: You say it's infamous that they're coming across because they 68 00:03:15,504 --> 00:03:16,664 Speaker 2: did have a big falling out. 69 00:03:17,144 --> 00:03:19,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they haven't really spoken too much about 70 00:03:19,184 --> 00:03:21,744 Speaker 1: in the public eye, but they were creative partners across 71 00:03:21,904 --> 00:03:24,064 Speaker 1: multiple projects for a really long time, so when they 72 00:03:24,064 --> 00:03:26,904 Speaker 1: severed their partnership, it was a huge deal. We've never 73 00:03:26,944 --> 00:03:29,344 Speaker 1: heard exactly what's happened, but Jenny's continued to go on 74 00:03:29,384 --> 00:03:31,624 Speaker 1: and make different projects. So I think this is going 75 00:03:31,664 --> 00:03:33,864 Speaker 1: to be quite interesting. I don't know, because nobody wants 76 00:03:33,864 --> 00:03:36,344 Speaker 1: This was like infamously like not very raunchy at all, 77 00:03:36,464 --> 00:03:38,584 Speaker 1: which we talked about in our brutally honest review of 78 00:03:38,624 --> 00:03:40,064 Speaker 1: the show, and I'll pop a link in the show 79 00:03:40,064 --> 00:03:41,944 Speaker 1: notes for that if you want to listen. It wasn't 80 00:03:41,944 --> 00:03:44,584 Speaker 1: a show that was built on sex scenes or anything 81 00:03:44,624 --> 00:03:46,304 Speaker 1: like that. It was more just the chemistry. 82 00:03:46,744 --> 00:03:50,104 Speaker 2: It's like, maybe they're, you know, bringing on these new 83 00:03:50,424 --> 00:03:51,944 Speaker 2: executive producers and show run. 84 00:03:51,944 --> 00:03:54,264 Speaker 1: It's to raaunch it up a little. Oh well maybe. 85 00:03:54,304 --> 00:03:56,144 Speaker 1: So all we know now is that they're back in 86 00:03:56,144 --> 00:03:57,744 Speaker 1: the writer's room. So I'm going to say it's going 87 00:03:57,784 --> 00:04:00,824 Speaker 1: to be at least a year, potentially much longer before 88 00:04:00,864 --> 00:04:02,544 Speaker 1: the second season comes out, but at least we know 89 00:04:02,584 --> 00:04:03,664 Speaker 1: it's on the way and at. 90 00:04:03,704 --> 00:04:05,544 Speaker 2: Least we know that they're not just making it for 91 00:04:05,584 --> 00:04:09,624 Speaker 2: the hell of it. All right, Laura, tell me what 92 00:04:09,744 --> 00:04:12,304 Speaker 2: on earth has happened with Kanye West. 93 00:04:12,864 --> 00:04:14,824 Speaker 1: So last week you and I were discussed seing the 94 00:04:14,864 --> 00:04:17,064 Speaker 1: fact that there were reports everywhere by a lot of 95 00:04:17,064 --> 00:04:21,144 Speaker 1: reputable sources that Kanye West and Bianco Sensori, who is 96 00:04:21,144 --> 00:04:23,384 Speaker 1: an Australian woman who has been married to him for 97 00:04:23,664 --> 00:04:25,424 Speaker 1: a few years now, they've been together for a while, 98 00:04:25,744 --> 00:04:28,664 Speaker 1: that they were divorcing after all the headlines about their 99 00:04:28,704 --> 00:04:32,184 Speaker 1: relationship and allegations that he was very controlling behind the scenes, 100 00:04:32,504 --> 00:04:35,384 Speaker 1: and that really blew up. But this weekend, in particular, 101 00:04:35,464 --> 00:04:38,704 Speaker 1: the story took a very different turn. So with Kanye West, 102 00:04:39,064 --> 00:04:41,464 Speaker 1: he's probably in the last couple of years, had nearly 103 00:04:41,504 --> 00:04:45,304 Speaker 1: close to twenty different lawsuits against him, a lot of 104 00:04:45,304 --> 00:04:48,464 Speaker 1: them to do with behavior that happened at his company, 105 00:04:48,664 --> 00:04:50,144 Speaker 1: a lot of them also to do with things like 106 00:04:50,184 --> 00:04:54,024 Speaker 1: copyright infringement and not delivering on different deals. So it 107 00:04:54,064 --> 00:04:57,504 Speaker 1: was a lot of different allegations but all very business focused, 108 00:04:57,824 --> 00:05:00,104 Speaker 1: and it should be said, a lot of different allegations 109 00:05:00,104 --> 00:05:03,064 Speaker 1: from stuff about bad behavior, things like him being abusive, 110 00:05:03,104 --> 00:05:05,624 Speaker 1: towards them, showing them porn all that sort of stuff. 111 00:05:05,624 --> 00:05:07,824 Speaker 1: So those have been building over the last couple of years, 112 00:05:08,144 --> 00:05:10,504 Speaker 1: but then a new series of allegations have come to 113 00:05:10,584 --> 00:05:12,624 Speaker 1: light over the last week and there's a lot of 114 00:05:12,744 --> 00:05:16,264 Speaker 1: equally disturbing and new stuff in here. So these complaints 115 00:05:16,264 --> 00:05:18,384 Speaker 1: have been made by a John Doe, So he hasn't 116 00:05:18,424 --> 00:05:21,664 Speaker 1: been named publicly yet, but he is a former staffer 117 00:05:21,784 --> 00:05:25,264 Speaker 1: of Kanye West and he is suing him for allegations 118 00:05:25,304 --> 00:05:30,144 Speaker 1: of emotional distress, retaliation, and labor code violations. And the 119 00:05:30,224 --> 00:05:33,464 Speaker 1: full complaint document has been obtained by a number of 120 00:05:33,544 --> 00:05:37,184 Speaker 1: different outlets, rolling Stone TMZ people, so all of this 121 00:05:37,264 --> 00:05:40,224 Speaker 1: part of the lawsuit has been made public, and there's 122 00:05:40,264 --> 00:05:41,744 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in here. But one thing that 123 00:05:41,784 --> 00:05:43,744 Speaker 1: everyone has picked up on is that this Jon Doe, 124 00:05:44,104 --> 00:05:46,104 Speaker 1: who was hired as like a bit of a fixer 125 00:05:46,144 --> 00:05:48,264 Speaker 1: for Kanye West, is what he's saying. So he was 126 00:05:48,344 --> 00:05:50,064 Speaker 1: hired to come in and like, you know, help with 127 00:05:50,104 --> 00:05:52,864 Speaker 1: bad press, help where things were blowing up. So he 128 00:05:52,984 --> 00:05:55,944 Speaker 1: was the kind of person that was brought in to 129 00:05:56,024 --> 00:05:58,064 Speaker 1: fix a lot of these issues that have been bubbling 130 00:05:58,144 --> 00:05:59,904 Speaker 1: up for Kanye West in the last couple of years 131 00:05:59,944 --> 00:06:02,624 Speaker 1: because of his behavior, but now the tables have turned 132 00:06:02,624 --> 00:06:04,944 Speaker 1: and he's suing him for pretty much doing the same 133 00:06:04,944 --> 00:06:08,144 Speaker 1: thing to him. Oh So, one of the really interesting 134 00:06:08,184 --> 00:06:10,104 Speaker 1: parts of the complaint is that this Jon Doe is 135 00:06:10,104 --> 00:06:14,024 Speaker 1: said that he was instructed by Kanye West to investigate 136 00:06:14,104 --> 00:06:16,704 Speaker 1: the Kardashian family. So obviously, he was married to Kim 137 00:06:16,744 --> 00:06:20,824 Speaker 1: Kardashian for many years. They share four children together, and 138 00:06:21,224 --> 00:06:24,104 Speaker 1: during the breakdown of their marriage at the time when 139 00:06:24,224 --> 00:06:26,744 Speaker 1: Kanye West was talking a lot about his different medical 140 00:06:26,784 --> 00:06:30,024 Speaker 1: and mental health conditions, including bipolar, he would put up 141 00:06:30,064 --> 00:06:33,504 Speaker 1: a lot of allegations about Kim Kardashian on his social 142 00:06:33,544 --> 00:06:36,864 Speaker 1: media and a lot to do also with Christianna, that 143 00:06:36,944 --> 00:06:40,264 Speaker 1: they were pulling strings behind the scenes, controlling him, paying 144 00:06:40,304 --> 00:06:44,784 Speaker 1: people off, involved in like really dirty business dealings and 145 00:06:45,024 --> 00:06:47,584 Speaker 1: among other things. I mean, he made allegations about Christiana 146 00:06:47,624 --> 00:06:49,584 Speaker 1: trying to sleep with different people. Got really messy, but 147 00:06:49,624 --> 00:06:51,784 Speaker 1: it was really all tied into his mental health, and 148 00:06:52,184 --> 00:06:54,584 Speaker 1: at the time it looked quite bad behind the scenes 149 00:06:54,624 --> 00:06:57,144 Speaker 1: because it looked like Kim Kardashian was and she put 150 00:06:57,184 --> 00:06:58,904 Speaker 1: up a post at the time saying, you know, when 151 00:06:58,904 --> 00:07:01,784 Speaker 1: you're dealing with someone who you'd love who's going through 152 00:07:01,904 --> 00:07:04,264 Speaker 1: such an intense mental health battle, like you have to 153 00:07:04,304 --> 00:07:06,744 Speaker 1: try and help them out. So there's footage of her 154 00:07:06,784 --> 00:07:09,464 Speaker 1: and her mum like going to his residence, and then 155 00:07:09,504 --> 00:07:11,744 Speaker 1: he kind of locked himself a ranch in Wyoming and 156 00:07:11,824 --> 00:07:14,824 Speaker 1: they were trying to put him into care. But obviously 157 00:07:14,864 --> 00:07:17,064 Speaker 1: he has a lot of power and people around him, 158 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:18,904 Speaker 1: so there were a lot of different obstacles in that. 159 00:07:19,384 --> 00:07:21,184 Speaker 1: And he was being so public at the time, and 160 00:07:21,224 --> 00:07:24,344 Speaker 1: people were really consuming it like a sport, like, you know, 161 00:07:24,424 --> 00:07:27,504 Speaker 1: refreshing his Instagram at the time to see all of 162 00:07:27,544 --> 00:07:30,144 Speaker 1: his different allegations and rants, and so many of them 163 00:07:30,184 --> 00:07:35,024 Speaker 1: were about Kim and her mother and all of these allegations. 164 00:07:34,544 --> 00:07:37,224 Speaker 2: And the public interest in them is so high, so 165 00:07:37,304 --> 00:07:40,824 Speaker 2: of course everyone was kind of like wanting that little 166 00:07:41,304 --> 00:07:44,184 Speaker 2: pervy inside look at the Kardashians. 167 00:07:44,304 --> 00:07:49,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like enjoying someone's mental health downfall, but also kindie, 168 00:07:49,184 --> 00:07:51,144 Speaker 1: we said a lot of really awful things that you 169 00:07:51,224 --> 00:07:52,664 Speaker 1: sort of that were really like so it was a 170 00:07:52,664 --> 00:07:54,944 Speaker 1: good thing that when his Instagram was taken away from him. 171 00:07:55,224 --> 00:07:57,544 Speaker 2: Would you say people were enjoying it or was it 172 00:07:57,624 --> 00:07:59,864 Speaker 2: more like like I'd say that some parts of the 173 00:07:59,904 --> 00:08:02,264 Speaker 2: media were probably enjoying it because it gave them so 174 00:08:02,384 --> 00:08:04,984 Speaker 2: much content, But it's almost like you're watching in a 175 00:08:05,064 --> 00:08:08,024 Speaker 2: voyeuristic way. So it's kind of like when you drive 176 00:08:08,064 --> 00:08:10,544 Speaker 2: past a car accident. You can't help but look that 177 00:08:10,544 --> 00:08:12,224 Speaker 2: you shouldn't, but you can't help, but look. But it's 178 00:08:12,264 --> 00:08:15,704 Speaker 2: more voyeuristic rather than you're sort of gleeful or really 179 00:08:15,824 --> 00:08:16,344 Speaker 2: enjoying it. 180 00:08:16,544 --> 00:08:18,064 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, there was definitely that side of it where 181 00:08:18,064 --> 00:08:19,784 Speaker 1: people were watching it being like, oh my god, this 182 00:08:19,864 --> 00:08:21,904 Speaker 1: is awful, but also like kind of just like wanting 183 00:08:21,904 --> 00:08:23,784 Speaker 1: to know what he was going to post next. But 184 00:08:23,864 --> 00:08:26,304 Speaker 1: then there were secrets he would spill. But then there 185 00:08:26,304 --> 00:08:29,024 Speaker 1: were hundreds of comments under each of the posts before 186 00:08:29,064 --> 00:08:31,824 Speaker 1: they were deleted, saying people like people thinks like, yeah, 187 00:08:31,944 --> 00:08:34,184 Speaker 1: take them down. The Kardashians are dirty and awful. We 188 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:36,224 Speaker 1: know this. Like there's always that faction of people who 189 00:08:36,264 --> 00:08:38,344 Speaker 1: are very like course, wanting it to be true. So 190 00:08:38,384 --> 00:08:40,944 Speaker 1: what this John Doe has said in these allegations is 191 00:08:40,944 --> 00:08:45,264 Speaker 1: that Karne West hired him to investigate Kim Kardashian and 192 00:08:45,304 --> 00:08:48,584 Speaker 1: her family and try and prove that they had criminal 193 00:08:48,664 --> 00:08:53,264 Speaker 1: links and they had links with criminal enterprises, including allegations 194 00:08:53,264 --> 00:08:56,784 Speaker 1: of sex trafficking. So this man was hired to almost 195 00:08:56,784 --> 00:08:59,704 Speaker 1: like tail the Kardashians, look into their business dealings and 196 00:08:59,744 --> 00:09:02,904 Speaker 1: report back to kardne West. And this is all while 197 00:09:03,064 --> 00:09:05,384 Speaker 1: Kim and Kanye are like sharing custody of their children 198 00:09:05,464 --> 00:09:07,864 Speaker 1: and going through their divorce. And he's even sometimes appearing 199 00:09:07,904 --> 00:09:10,264 Speaker 1: in the background of the new episodes of The Kardashian 200 00:09:10,464 --> 00:09:13,864 Speaker 1: even when they were separated, like sometimes he's there. And 201 00:09:13,904 --> 00:09:16,264 Speaker 1: so this is the first time we've had an allegation 202 00:09:16,504 --> 00:09:18,424 Speaker 1: like this from a staff member that's been involved with 203 00:09:18,464 --> 00:09:20,544 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. I think that's why the headlines have really 204 00:09:20,544 --> 00:09:21,144 Speaker 1: centered on it. 205 00:09:22,184 --> 00:09:24,664 Speaker 2: What was his history though? Does it say if he 206 00:09:24,944 --> 00:09:28,104 Speaker 2: was an actual spy or like an investigator or is 207 00:09:28,104 --> 00:09:31,944 Speaker 2: he just like the assistant marketing manager and old mate 208 00:09:32,024 --> 00:09:34,664 Speaker 2: Yeasy's just like, oh can you go on tailgate my 209 00:09:34,664 --> 00:09:35,184 Speaker 2: ex wife? 210 00:09:35,344 --> 00:09:36,744 Speaker 1: Oh no, I think he is, like because they do 211 00:09:36,824 --> 00:09:39,024 Speaker 1: have people in Hollywood who are fixes, so you can 212 00:09:39,104 --> 00:09:41,624 Speaker 1: hire them to come in and like find information on 213 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:44,144 Speaker 1: people or shut things down and have Yeah, but this 214 00:09:44,184 --> 00:09:46,704 Speaker 1: guy in particular, it's been reported that he's a military 215 00:09:46,784 --> 00:09:50,224 Speaker 1: veteran who also has suffered from PTSD because of that 216 00:09:50,264 --> 00:09:53,184 Speaker 1: in the past, and he's also saying that because of 217 00:09:53,264 --> 00:09:55,824 Speaker 1: some of the abuse that he suffered from Kanye West, 218 00:09:55,904 --> 00:09:59,064 Speaker 1: He's saying things like Kanye and his leadership team would 219 00:09:59,144 --> 00:10:02,344 Speaker 1: like abuse him and he would receive a phone calls 220 00:10:02,344 --> 00:10:05,624 Speaker 1: from Kanye where Kanye would yell at him and curse 221 00:10:05,664 --> 00:10:08,184 Speaker 1: at him and threaten him, and like an actual line 222 00:10:08,264 --> 00:10:10,584 Speaker 1: from the report is that he would threaten him with 223 00:10:10,664 --> 00:10:14,344 Speaker 1: great bodily injury, including death. So I think that might 224 00:10:14,504 --> 00:10:16,544 Speaker 1: that's kind of yeah. I think there's so much in 225 00:10:16,584 --> 00:10:19,064 Speaker 1: here that's like incredibly messed up. And at the time, 226 00:10:19,064 --> 00:10:21,264 Speaker 1: obviously these are just all allegations, but these are the 227 00:10:21,304 --> 00:10:24,304 Speaker 1: allegations in the complaint that have been made. 228 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:26,264 Speaker 2: Public official filed complains. 229 00:10:26,344 --> 00:10:28,704 Speaker 1: It's a twenty two page document just filled with all 230 00:10:28,744 --> 00:10:30,864 Speaker 1: of these things that this man says that he can 231 00:10:30,904 --> 00:10:32,984 Speaker 1: prove Kanye West did to him and that he's going 232 00:10:33,024 --> 00:10:33,864 Speaker 1: to sue him for. 233 00:10:34,184 --> 00:10:36,864 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, And is there any truth to any 234 00:10:36,944 --> 00:10:40,064 Speaker 2: of what he was like looking into or is that 235 00:10:40,104 --> 00:10:42,464 Speaker 2: sort of like a separate news story within itself. 236 00:10:42,864 --> 00:10:44,544 Speaker 1: Well, I guess in the lawsuit, like part of it 237 00:10:44,584 --> 00:10:47,064 Speaker 1: is that you have to prove that the allegations you're 238 00:10:47,064 --> 00:10:49,104 Speaker 1: saying are true. So I'm assuming that this Jon Doe 239 00:10:49,504 --> 00:10:53,464 Speaker 1: has documentation or something, you know, messages or emails from 240 00:10:53,504 --> 00:10:55,944 Speaker 1: the team or recordings that he can prove all of 241 00:10:55,944 --> 00:10:58,664 Speaker 1: this happened. But what's also included in this is some 242 00:10:58,784 --> 00:11:03,104 Speaker 1: allegations about Biankers and sorry so Kanye West's current wife, 243 00:11:03,144 --> 00:11:06,264 Speaker 1: and this Jon Do is alleging that Kanye West ordered 244 00:11:06,344 --> 00:11:11,104 Speaker 1: him to have private investigators follow Bianca when she came 245 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:13,384 Speaker 1: home to visit her family in Australia to kind of 246 00:11:13,464 --> 00:11:15,344 Speaker 1: keep an eye on her report back on what she 247 00:11:15,424 --> 00:11:18,704 Speaker 1: was doing. And we haven't had any confirmation from Bianca 248 00:11:18,704 --> 00:11:21,424 Speaker 1: that that's true, but that does really fit into these 249 00:11:21,464 --> 00:11:24,344 Speaker 1: allegations of a controlling narrative, and that's like part of 250 00:11:24,344 --> 00:11:28,344 Speaker 1: the lawsuit that's really out there. Bana Nana. Well. Over 251 00:11:28,344 --> 00:11:30,184 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, there's been a lot of 252 00:11:30,184 --> 00:11:32,504 Speaker 1: different lawsuits and I think like these have been making 253 00:11:32,504 --> 00:11:34,744 Speaker 1: the news and people have been talking about them, but 254 00:11:34,784 --> 00:11:37,704 Speaker 1: it's always the more I guess salacious moments, like allegations 255 00:11:37,704 --> 00:11:41,104 Speaker 1: that he would make people who worked for Yeezy watch 256 00:11:41,144 --> 00:11:43,424 Speaker 1: different porn, or that he was being abusive to people. 257 00:11:43,504 --> 00:11:46,064 Speaker 1: Like there's always been those allegations out there, but a 258 00:11:46,104 --> 00:11:48,704 Speaker 1: bunch of allegations that were put forward and have like 259 00:11:48,744 --> 00:11:52,384 Speaker 1: resurfaced with some new information this week is from Lauren 260 00:11:52,424 --> 00:11:55,464 Speaker 1: p Ciocotto, who was Khane west assistant and she works 261 00:11:55,464 --> 00:11:57,904 Speaker 1: from him from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two, 262 00:11:58,424 --> 00:12:01,704 Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of complaints and lawsuits that she 263 00:12:01,824 --> 00:12:05,664 Speaker 1: has put forward with some really disturbing allegations because she 264 00:12:05,864 --> 00:12:08,304 Speaker 1: accused Kane West during the time that she was his 265 00:12:08,344 --> 00:12:12,224 Speaker 1: assistant of drugging and sexually assaulting her. I mean, this 266 00:12:12,264 --> 00:12:13,664 Speaker 1: whole thing is messed up, but this is where it 267 00:12:13,664 --> 00:12:16,904 Speaker 1: gets really messed up. Drugging and sexually assaulting her at 268 00:12:16,944 --> 00:12:20,104 Speaker 1: a studio session which is co hosted by Sean Combs. 269 00:12:20,504 --> 00:12:23,544 Speaker 1: As in the man who has been arrested for multiple 270 00:12:23,584 --> 00:12:28,184 Speaker 1: counts of allegations of rape sexual assault in particular drugging 271 00:12:28,224 --> 00:12:31,624 Speaker 1: women and different people at parties and a lot of 272 00:12:31,624 --> 00:12:36,424 Speaker 1: different allegations including rape, sexual assault, forcing people into awful 273 00:12:36,584 --> 00:12:40,064 Speaker 1: sexual circumstances in his free cough parties that he's been holding. 274 00:12:40,424 --> 00:12:43,544 Speaker 1: So what she's saying is that at this studio session 275 00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:46,024 Speaker 1: that Kanye West and Shawn Holmes were present at. So 276 00:12:46,064 --> 00:12:49,224 Speaker 1: this is what Lauren is alleging is that Kanye West 277 00:12:49,224 --> 00:12:53,424 Speaker 1: committed sexual battery against her after serving her a lay drink, 278 00:12:53,984 --> 00:12:56,744 Speaker 1: and then afterwards, she's saying that she was wrongfully termined 279 00:12:56,784 --> 00:13:01,104 Speaker 1: by Kanye West because she brought up what had happened, 280 00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:05,024 Speaker 1: and then she said she was subjected to really explicit texts, 281 00:13:05,064 --> 00:13:08,864 Speaker 1: pornographic videos and photos and phone calls from him, and 282 00:13:08,904 --> 00:13:10,224 Speaker 1: then ultimately he fired. 283 00:13:11,144 --> 00:13:13,784 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this just gets messier and messier. And 284 00:13:13,904 --> 00:13:15,984 Speaker 2: the fact that now this is tied up with the 285 00:13:16,184 --> 00:13:17,344 Speaker 2: Diddy stuff. 286 00:13:17,464 --> 00:13:19,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And so it should be said that, like 287 00:13:19,904 --> 00:13:22,864 Speaker 1: Shawn Colmbs has denied all of these allegations and so 288 00:13:22,984 --> 00:13:25,104 Speaker 1: that he'll go to court and prove his innocence. And 289 00:13:25,144 --> 00:13:27,704 Speaker 1: it should also be said that when Lauren put these 290 00:13:27,704 --> 00:13:31,624 Speaker 1: allegations forward, a legal representative for Kanye West said that 291 00:13:31,704 --> 00:13:35,144 Speaker 1: the allegations were completely not true and so that Kanye 292 00:13:35,144 --> 00:13:38,584 Speaker 1: West would be filing a lawsuit against Lauren for defamation 293 00:13:38,664 --> 00:13:41,704 Speaker 1: and saying she was lying. But what's interesting there is 294 00:13:41,744 --> 00:13:44,264 Speaker 1: what Lauren is saying about Kanye West fits in with 295 00:13:44,384 --> 00:13:49,024 Speaker 1: the over one hundred and twenty formal complaints against Shawn Combs. 296 00:13:49,024 --> 00:13:51,784 Speaker 1: So Shawn Colmes was arrested in the last few months. 297 00:13:51,904 --> 00:13:54,224 Speaker 1: Is now being held in custody in New York awaiting 298 00:13:54,304 --> 00:13:58,784 Speaker 1: trial for multiple accounts of you know, drugging people's sexual battery. 299 00:13:58,784 --> 00:14:00,664 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on and on, and what 300 00:14:00,744 --> 00:14:03,584 Speaker 1: a lot of these witnesses have said happened at these 301 00:14:04,064 --> 00:14:07,304 Speaker 1: Shawn Comb's events and parties, whether it was studio sessions 302 00:14:07,424 --> 00:14:09,584 Speaker 1: or like his team bringing people in, including like a 303 00:14:09,664 --> 00:14:11,784 Speaker 1: nine year old boy, bringing them into these studios and 304 00:14:11,824 --> 00:14:13,504 Speaker 1: saying like will make you famous if you do what 305 00:14:13,584 --> 00:14:16,824 Speaker 1: we say. What Lauren is saying about Kanye West, like, 306 00:14:16,904 --> 00:14:19,944 Speaker 1: these allegations mirror that. So I think obviously that's a 307 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:21,704 Speaker 1: really disturbing element to the story. 308 00:14:22,144 --> 00:14:24,664 Speaker 2: It's very Harvey Weinstein two point zero. 309 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:27,384 Speaker 1: Well, that's what the lawyers who are representing the people 310 00:14:27,544 --> 00:14:30,624 Speaker 1: who have made these accusations against Seawan comes have said 311 00:14:31,024 --> 00:14:34,024 Speaker 1: that it's been Hollywood's worst kept seecret for a long time. 312 00:14:34,224 --> 00:14:36,104 Speaker 1: And obviously, like at this stage, they are just like 313 00:14:36,144 --> 00:14:39,624 Speaker 1: allegations that are being investigated. But what these lawyers have 314 00:14:39,704 --> 00:14:42,304 Speaker 1: been saying as they keep giving us information about what 315 00:14:42,344 --> 00:14:45,224 Speaker 1: has happened with Shawn Colmbs is that they are aware 316 00:14:45,264 --> 00:14:48,864 Speaker 1: that there's a list of really powerful Hollywood people who 317 00:14:49,024 --> 00:14:51,824 Speaker 1: were very complicit in what Shawn Combs, like the allegations 318 00:14:51,824 --> 00:14:53,704 Speaker 1: of what he was doing, and that all of their 319 00:14:53,784 --> 00:14:55,504 Speaker 1: names are going to come out. So I guess that's 320 00:14:55,504 --> 00:14:57,424 Speaker 1: been the main interest for a lot of people, is 321 00:14:57,464 --> 00:15:00,224 Speaker 1: wanting to know who else in this power circle in 322 00:15:00,304 --> 00:15:03,664 Speaker 1: Hollywood was involved in this. And that's why these allegations 323 00:15:03,664 --> 00:15:07,264 Speaker 1: against Kanye West have really gained people's interests because they 324 00:15:07,264 --> 00:15:10,584 Speaker 1: think now that it's almost proof, although it's all still 325 00:15:10,624 --> 00:15:12,624 Speaker 1: allegations at this point, that it's proof that he was 326 00:15:12,704 --> 00:15:15,544 Speaker 1: very much involved in this big secret that's going to 327 00:15:15,584 --> 00:15:17,504 Speaker 1: blow up with all these different famous names. 328 00:15:17,904 --> 00:15:22,224 Speaker 2: It's almost come a very either unfortunate or fortunate time, 329 00:15:22,344 --> 00:15:26,584 Speaker 2: depending on the legitimacy of the accusations. 330 00:15:26,904 --> 00:15:29,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And now it's hard too because it's like 331 00:15:29,784 --> 00:15:32,464 Speaker 1: when the Shawn Kromb stuff happened, and then there were 332 00:15:32,904 --> 00:15:36,784 Speaker 1: allegations at Jay Z and Beyonce were involved and Jennifer Lopez, 333 00:15:36,864 --> 00:15:39,624 Speaker 1: and so people really started attacking like particularly the women, 334 00:15:39,704 --> 00:15:42,464 Speaker 1: like particularly Jennifer Lopez and Beyonce for the cover up, 335 00:15:42,864 --> 00:15:45,104 Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting because there's nothing to say 336 00:15:45,104 --> 00:15:47,424 Speaker 1: they're involved yet, like we have no information about that. 337 00:15:47,784 --> 00:15:49,904 Speaker 1: But I think it's always where people's mind goes is 338 00:15:49,944 --> 00:15:51,904 Speaker 1: like which other famous women can we pull into this? 339 00:15:52,304 --> 00:15:54,544 Speaker 1: And I feel like a nearly similar thing has happened 340 00:15:54,584 --> 00:15:57,184 Speaker 1: here where people are now going for Kim Kardashian and 341 00:15:57,224 --> 00:15:59,864 Speaker 1: saying like, well, how much did she know? Like how 342 00:15:59,944 --> 00:16:02,184 Speaker 1: much has she involved in this? But at this point 343 00:16:02,224 --> 00:16:04,584 Speaker 1: in time, we don't know if she was at all. 344 00:16:04,624 --> 00:16:05,904 Speaker 1: But I just think that they would just want to 345 00:16:05,904 --> 00:16:07,864 Speaker 1: pull in the names of other famous women to be 346 00:16:07,904 --> 00:16:08,904 Speaker 1: involved in the story. 347 00:16:09,144 --> 00:16:12,104 Speaker 2: It's exactly because I think think that the public would 348 00:16:12,544 --> 00:16:16,384 Speaker 2: have a lot more fun probably pulling down women in 349 00:16:16,424 --> 00:16:18,704 Speaker 2: this situation. And it's also like, why do you just 350 00:16:18,744 --> 00:16:21,704 Speaker 2: assume that just because someone's husband or partner was involved, 351 00:16:21,744 --> 00:16:24,784 Speaker 2: that the woman has any idea that it's even going on. 352 00:16:25,264 --> 00:16:27,584 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, And I'm sure if like this list of 353 00:16:27,584 --> 00:16:29,464 Speaker 1: people that comes out that were involved, I'm sure there'll 354 00:16:29,504 --> 00:16:32,144 Speaker 1: be men and women on there equally. But I just 355 00:16:32,184 --> 00:16:34,784 Speaker 1: find it interesting that that's the first port of call 356 00:16:34,864 --> 00:16:37,384 Speaker 1: people go to, whereas like the information that we have 357 00:16:37,544 --> 00:16:40,584 Speaker 1: just from these allegations is kind of disturbing enough with 358 00:16:40,984 --> 00:16:42,584 Speaker 1: out having to sort of pull these people in, so 359 00:16:42,624 --> 00:16:45,784 Speaker 1: should say, like, at the moment Kim Kardashian was contacted 360 00:16:45,824 --> 00:16:48,664 Speaker 1: for comment by a number of outlets, and she said 361 00:16:48,704 --> 00:16:50,904 Speaker 1: that her team had no comment at this point in time, 362 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:53,904 Speaker 1: which is fair enough because she's not going to jump 363 00:16:53,944 --> 00:16:56,304 Speaker 1: in and say anything at this stage of the game. 364 00:16:56,744 --> 00:16:59,104 Speaker 2: We also need to remember they have four kids at 365 00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:04,504 Speaker 2: home exactly, and the news articles about their parents and 366 00:17:04,624 --> 00:17:06,824 Speaker 2: their father like, they need to be careful, and you 367 00:17:06,824 --> 00:17:10,024 Speaker 2: can understand why Kim's trying to protect them and his 368 00:17:10,424 --> 00:17:11,584 Speaker 2: Midge in a way, oh. 369 00:17:11,424 --> 00:17:13,664 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And also just from a legal standpoint, 370 00:17:13,664 --> 00:17:15,464 Speaker 1: you'd have to wait for this to go through the courts, 371 00:17:15,464 --> 00:17:17,224 Speaker 1: like putting out a statement now, it's just really going 372 00:17:17,304 --> 00:17:19,944 Speaker 1: to add to that situation. And one person who has 373 00:17:19,984 --> 00:17:22,064 Speaker 1: been talking a bit who isn't really wrapped up in 374 00:17:22,104 --> 00:17:24,344 Speaker 1: any of this because they had such a short relationship. 375 00:17:24,344 --> 00:17:26,944 Speaker 1: But I think it's really interesting is Julia Fox. So 376 00:17:27,344 --> 00:17:29,744 Speaker 1: it's strange she's still kind of wrapped up in this 377 00:17:29,904 --> 00:17:33,224 Speaker 1: narrative because she only dated Kanye West for a month 378 00:17:33,264 --> 00:17:35,424 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, like over two years ago. 379 00:17:35,984 --> 00:17:40,304 Speaker 2: I hate saying this, Yeah, but it's because she wasn't 380 00:17:40,344 --> 00:17:44,024 Speaker 2: that well known before she dated him, and that's why 381 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:47,224 Speaker 2: she's still so tied up with it. So she will 382 00:17:47,264 --> 00:17:49,224 Speaker 2: forever or at least for the next couple of years. 383 00:17:49,304 --> 00:17:51,584 Speaker 2: Be oh, Kannie s dated her for a while because 384 00:17:51,624 --> 00:17:53,344 Speaker 2: she wasn't that famous prior to it. 385 00:17:53,424 --> 00:17:54,264 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly. 386 00:17:54,344 --> 00:17:56,544 Speaker 2: It because I wish that that wasn't the case, but 387 00:17:56,624 --> 00:17:58,344 Speaker 2: it is. Oh yeah, that's why. 388 00:17:58,424 --> 00:18:00,744 Speaker 1: But even if she said that, even she has said 389 00:18:00,784 --> 00:18:02,824 Speaker 1: that she knows that she had like a different level, 390 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:04,584 Speaker 1: like she'd obviously been a model and an IT girl 391 00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:07,264 Speaker 1: and an actress before this, but even she has said 392 00:18:07,264 --> 00:18:09,904 Speaker 1: that she knows that it like capulated her to global fame. 393 00:18:10,144 --> 00:18:12,384 Speaker 1: But she did an interview recently where she said, I 394 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:14,544 Speaker 1: regret that relationship so much. I hated it. 395 00:18:14,624 --> 00:18:15,824 Speaker 2: She was so brutal, it was great. 396 00:18:16,144 --> 00:18:18,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah exactly. She's like, it was only a few weeks, 397 00:18:18,544 --> 00:18:20,544 Speaker 1: but enough to last me a lifetime. I was probably 398 00:18:20,584 --> 00:18:22,904 Speaker 1: the most uncomfortable position of my life. And that's saying 399 00:18:22,944 --> 00:18:24,784 Speaker 1: a lot, which it is saying a lot. If you've 400 00:18:24,824 --> 00:18:28,024 Speaker 1: read her memoir, this woman has been through it in 401 00:18:28,064 --> 00:18:29,824 Speaker 1: her life. And she said, I don't want to be 402 00:18:29,904 --> 00:18:32,784 Speaker 1: no one for being anyone's girlfriend, which I understand, but 403 00:18:32,864 --> 00:18:35,304 Speaker 1: I also think that she very much kind of took 404 00:18:35,344 --> 00:18:37,224 Speaker 1: advantage of the publicy at the time in a really 405 00:18:37,424 --> 00:18:39,744 Speaker 1: iconic way, like she would give interviews from bed to 406 00:18:39,824 --> 00:18:43,704 Speaker 1: different magazines about like the morning after they'd had their dates, 407 00:18:43,704 --> 00:18:45,424 Speaker 1: and she would say like, oh, I'll just call you 408 00:18:45,424 --> 00:18:47,824 Speaker 1: guys like after every date to kind of keep you 409 00:18:47,864 --> 00:18:49,424 Speaker 1: in the loop. But I think like she was very 410 00:18:49,464 --> 00:18:51,424 Speaker 1: above board with it all and doing it in a 411 00:18:51,504 --> 00:18:54,304 Speaker 1: very fun way. But now she's coming out and saying 412 00:18:54,304 --> 00:18:56,784 Speaker 1: that he was very controlling behind the scenes and that 413 00:18:56,824 --> 00:18:58,984 Speaker 1: she thinks that he was really trying just to hurt 414 00:18:59,024 --> 00:19:02,344 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian with their relationship, which are things that she 415 00:19:02,464 --> 00:19:04,464 Speaker 1: wasn't aware about the time, Like she was just happy 416 00:19:04,504 --> 00:19:06,784 Speaker 1: to like have a few like fun headlines, yes, and 417 00:19:07,024 --> 00:19:09,744 Speaker 1: you could lot of fun. Yeah, And obviously now that 418 00:19:09,784 --> 00:19:11,984 Speaker 1: all of this information has come out, she's kind of 419 00:19:12,024 --> 00:19:14,064 Speaker 1: going back with a different light. But again, it's again, 420 00:19:14,104 --> 00:19:17,104 Speaker 1: it's just kind of, I guess, very disturbing that there's 421 00:19:17,104 --> 00:19:19,104 Speaker 1: always a woman's name that we have to pull into this. 422 00:19:19,544 --> 00:19:22,544 Speaker 1: So there's yeah, as I said about twenty different lawsuits 423 00:19:22,624 --> 00:19:26,264 Speaker 1: against Kanye West at the moment, these new allegations from 424 00:19:26,384 --> 00:19:29,544 Speaker 1: John Doe, which are involving Kim Kardashin and Biancasensory, have 425 00:19:29,624 --> 00:19:32,064 Speaker 1: only just come out, and what we know now is 426 00:19:32,064 --> 00:19:33,904 Speaker 1: that has to go through the chords and that Kanye 427 00:19:33,944 --> 00:19:36,504 Speaker 1: West is denying it and said he's going to counter suit. 428 00:19:37,064 --> 00:19:39,584 Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be a very interesting couple of months, 429 00:19:39,624 --> 00:19:42,664 Speaker 2: I think in the celeb world. Thank you so much 430 00:19:42,744 --> 00:19:46,224 Speaker 2: for listening to the spill today. If you want TV recommendations, 431 00:19:46,264 --> 00:19:49,584 Speaker 2: we did a big episode on Friday, the Comfort TV 432 00:19:49,704 --> 00:19:52,784 Speaker 2: shows you need to watch immediately. Apple was having some 433 00:19:52,944 --> 00:19:55,184 Speaker 2: issues on Friday, so you might have missed it and 434 00:19:55,224 --> 00:19:57,104 Speaker 2: we don't want that, so we wanted to remind you 435 00:19:57,424 --> 00:19:59,744 Speaker 2: and we'll pop a link to that in our show notes. 436 00:19:59,864 --> 00:20:02,624 Speaker 1: I know I've already had so many messages from spillers 437 00:20:02,624 --> 00:20:05,464 Speaker 1: on my Instagram sharing their Comfort TV show, so thank 438 00:20:05,464 --> 00:20:07,784 Speaker 1: you for everyone. Keep them coming because I do have 439 00:20:07,784 --> 00:20:11,664 Speaker 1: to pull this big list for us all. Yeah, yes, 440 00:20:11,704 --> 00:20:12,944 Speaker 1: I will share them with you because I know you 441 00:20:12,984 --> 00:20:14,624 Speaker 1: need some new ones as well. I'll share them on 442 00:20:14,624 --> 00:20:16,944 Speaker 1: the spill in Stu once I've gone through and curated 443 00:20:16,944 --> 00:20:18,904 Speaker 1: the list, But you guys have some really good suggestions. 444 00:20:19,144 --> 00:20:22,104 Speaker 2: Laura and Emily will be back in your podcast feed 445 00:20:22,184 --> 00:20:24,984 Speaker 2: at three pm tomorrow. Thank you so much for letting 446 00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:28,184 Speaker 2: me fell in again. The Spill is produced by Kimberly British, 447 00:20:28,264 --> 00:20:36,504 Speaker 2: with sound production by Scott Stronik bye Byelan