1 00:00:05,606 --> 00:00:12,046 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mother Mea podcast. Hello, old friend, 2 00:00:12,565 --> 00:00:15,526 Speaker 1: I'm Annalie Todd, host of Mumma MEA's new podcast, She 3 00:00:15,605 --> 00:00:18,246 Speaker 1: Built That, and I'm dropping into you. That's incredible feed 4 00:00:18,326 --> 00:00:20,645 Speaker 1: because I think you're going to love this just like 5 00:00:20,726 --> 00:00:23,326 Speaker 1: That's Incredible. It's a co listening podcast for you to 6 00:00:23,406 --> 00:00:26,006 Speaker 1: enjoy with your kids. She Built That is all about 7 00:00:26,046 --> 00:00:29,566 Speaker 1: courageous women who've turned their dreams into reality. These women 8 00:00:29,606 --> 00:00:33,166 Speaker 1: didn't just dream big, they built their futures. Each episode, 9 00:00:33,205 --> 00:00:37,126 Speaker 1: I sit down with inspiring female entrepreneurs, athletes, and game 10 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:40,765 Speaker 1: changers who've created something extraordinary from the ground up. We 11 00:00:40,806 --> 00:00:44,285 Speaker 1: take you on a journey through storytelling with beautiful soundscapes, 12 00:00:44,605 --> 00:00:47,205 Speaker 1: diving deep into their winds, the hard times, and the 13 00:00:47,245 --> 00:00:50,726 Speaker 1: moments that sparked everything for them. So gather up the kids, 14 00:00:50,885 --> 00:00:53,406 Speaker 1: stick around, and if you love what you hear, make 15 00:00:53,446 --> 00:00:55,725 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to She Built That wherever you get 16 00:00:55,726 --> 00:00:58,446 Speaker 1: your podcasts for more incredible episodes. 17 00:00:58,806 --> 00:01:07,126 Speaker 2: Enjoy. Hello, future Builders, and welcome to She Built That, 18 00:01:07,406 --> 00:01:11,206 Speaker 2: the podcast where we discover incredible women who didn't. 19 00:01:10,966 --> 00:01:13,366 Speaker 3: Just dream be, they built their futures. 20 00:01:13,846 --> 00:01:16,926 Speaker 1: Every episode, we hang ten with young women who stacked 21 00:01:16,966 --> 00:01:20,486 Speaker 1: their talents wear the wipeouts and kept paddling until they 22 00:01:20,486 --> 00:01:23,726 Speaker 1: made a splash on their own terms. I'm your host 23 00:01:23,766 --> 00:01:26,926 Speaker 1: Annalise Todd, Mamma MIA's lifestyle writer and. 24 00:01:26,926 --> 00:01:30,406 Speaker 3: Chief administrator of the Dreaming Department. And before we. 25 00:01:30,446 --> 00:01:33,486 Speaker 1: Catch the swell of today's story, can you guess which 26 00:01:33,526 --> 00:01:38,686 Speaker 1: brilliant builder is starring in this episode? Make no mistake, 27 00:01:38,966 --> 00:01:42,086 Speaker 1: this is a competitive quiz, so grown ups, get your 28 00:01:42,086 --> 00:01:43,286 Speaker 1: thinking caps onto. 29 00:01:43,726 --> 00:01:45,806 Speaker 3: Clue number one. 30 00:01:45,806 --> 00:01:49,806 Speaker 1: This surf star started catching waves at around age nine 31 00:01:50,286 --> 00:01:54,206 Speaker 1: on Australia's famous Gold Coast and quickly fell for the 32 00:01:54,246 --> 00:01:59,926 Speaker 1: thrill of the ocean. Clue number two. She's also a 33 00:02:00,046 --> 00:02:03,446 Speaker 1: musician and artist, and one of the bravest things she's 34 00:02:03,566 --> 00:02:06,646 Speaker 1: ever done is get on a plane all by herself 35 00:02:06,726 --> 00:02:10,085 Speaker 1: at age fifteen and fly to the other side of 36 00:02:10,126 --> 00:02:11,525 Speaker 1: the world for a competition. 37 00:02:13,246 --> 00:02:14,326 Speaker 3: Clue number three. 38 00:02:15,046 --> 00:02:18,925 Speaker 1: She's impressed surfing scouts, inspired other young athletes, and has 39 00:02:18,965 --> 00:02:21,966 Speaker 1: made serious waves in major competitions. 40 00:02:23,286 --> 00:02:29,606 Speaker 3: Can you guess who it is? How did you go? 41 00:02:30,365 --> 00:02:33,726 Speaker 1: If you guess Charlie Hately, You're riding the perfect wave. 42 00:02:35,046 --> 00:02:39,486 Speaker 1: Today we're talking about determined surfer and rising star Charlie Hately, 43 00:02:39,645 --> 00:02:43,685 Speaker 1: who's building her legacy, one wave, one wipeout, and one 44 00:02:43,805 --> 00:02:45,006 Speaker 1: epic comeback. 45 00:02:44,645 --> 00:02:45,125 Speaker 3: At a time. 46 00:02:45,566 --> 00:02:48,125 Speaker 1: Get ready to suit up, because after the break, we're 47 00:02:48,166 --> 00:02:51,405 Speaker 1: paddling out with Charlie to discover how brave girls surf 48 00:02:51,645 --> 00:03:03,046 Speaker 1: into their dreams. The ocean is glassy before dawn. It's 49 00:03:03,085 --> 00:03:08,525 Speaker 1: waves rising and falling like calm. But on the sand, 50 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:13,446 Speaker 1: young Charlie Hateley's pulse races harder than the water's crash. 51 00:03:13,805 --> 00:03:17,526 Speaker 1: Her toes dig into cold sand, surfboard tucked right beneath 52 00:03:17,525 --> 00:03:18,286 Speaker 1: her arm. 53 00:03:18,726 --> 00:03:22,405 Speaker 3: The lineup looks daunting the sky, just a whisper of pink. 54 00:03:24,326 --> 00:03:27,886 Speaker 1: This is that moment every surfer faces when both nerves 55 00:03:27,925 --> 00:03:29,206 Speaker 1: and excitement. 56 00:03:28,726 --> 00:03:32,126 Speaker 3: Crash at once. Would she paddle out and nail her run? 57 00:03:32,886 --> 00:03:34,966 Speaker 1: Or would the sea sweeper off her feet like the 58 00:03:34,966 --> 00:03:37,766 Speaker 1: first time she tried and tumbled under its fearsome power. 59 00:03:40,886 --> 00:03:47,565 Speaker 1: Imagine this a kid on Australia's famous Gold Coast, staring 60 00:03:47,606 --> 00:03:50,566 Speaker 1: at thundering waves and thinking, why just swim in this 61 00:03:51,006 --> 00:03:56,326 Speaker 1: when you can ride? That's Charlie, aged nine, all knees 62 00:03:56,366 --> 00:03:59,966 Speaker 1: and elbows and dreams. She was watching surfers slice along 63 00:04:00,046 --> 00:04:03,285 Speaker 1: the water, wanting burning to be one of them. She 64 00:04:03,446 --> 00:04:07,526 Speaker 1: begged for lessons, convinced her parents, and somewhere out there, 65 00:04:07,726 --> 00:04:10,686 Speaker 1: Charlie's mum is still ankle deep in sand, holding her 66 00:04:10,686 --> 00:04:13,686 Speaker 1: wet suit while driving to work, because, as we know, 67 00:04:13,966 --> 00:04:16,645 Speaker 1: your car will never be sand free after a trip 68 00:04:16,686 --> 00:04:20,205 Speaker 1: with your kids to the beach. Ever, from the start, 69 00:04:20,326 --> 00:04:23,565 Speaker 1: Charlie was different. While other kids built sand castles and 70 00:04:23,565 --> 00:04:27,046 Speaker 1: stuck to the safety of shallow waters, she built surf plants, 71 00:04:29,325 --> 00:04:34,565 Speaker 1: mapping imaginary courses through the biggest sets. Her questions next level, 72 00:04:34,966 --> 00:04:36,445 Speaker 1: what if I could do a turn no one had 73 00:04:36,486 --> 00:04:39,166 Speaker 1: ever named? How many boards do I have to try 74 00:04:39,166 --> 00:04:39,686 Speaker 1: before I. 75 00:04:39,606 --> 00:04:43,086 Speaker 3: Find the one? Can waves see me the way I 76 00:04:43,206 --> 00:04:43,846 Speaker 3: see them? 77 00:04:43,926 --> 00:04:44,286 Speaker 1: Hmmm? 78 00:04:45,765 --> 00:04:47,806 Speaker 3: Charlie remembers those early days. 79 00:04:48,046 --> 00:04:50,966 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess the first waves I really remember surfing. 80 00:04:51,206 --> 00:04:53,565 Speaker 4: Her parents were putting on a big foami and I 81 00:04:53,606 --> 00:04:56,126 Speaker 4: had to throw a life jacket. The feeling you get 82 00:04:56,366 --> 00:04:59,686 Speaker 4: is it's so different to anything that I've ever felt before. 83 00:04:59,765 --> 00:05:02,845 Speaker 4: It's a mixture of like fear, it's the unknown, but 84 00:05:02,885 --> 00:05:06,166 Speaker 4: it's also this like beautiful, like I'm on something that's 85 00:05:06,286 --> 00:05:09,166 Speaker 4: creative in nature and I can do whatever I want 86 00:05:09,166 --> 00:05:11,445 Speaker 4: with it. Like it's this empowering kind of feeling that 87 00:05:11,486 --> 00:05:13,846 Speaker 4: you're like on the edge of being scared, but you're 88 00:05:13,885 --> 00:05:16,966 Speaker 4: also inspired and I can never forget it. 89 00:05:18,086 --> 00:05:20,046 Speaker 3: But it wasn't all blue sky thinking. 90 00:05:20,646 --> 00:05:25,366 Speaker 1: Those early sessions were rough, wipeouts, felt endless. There were 91 00:05:25,366 --> 00:05:27,885 Speaker 1: boys in the lineup who didn't make room or called 92 00:05:27,885 --> 00:05:29,326 Speaker 1: her brave instead of good. 93 00:05:30,206 --> 00:05:31,646 Speaker 3: Sometimes she'd trudged back up. 94 00:05:31,606 --> 00:05:36,525 Speaker 1: The beach, salty tears mixing with seawater. Still Charlie kept 95 00:05:36,565 --> 00:05:41,326 Speaker 1: coming back. That's what building looks like, getting knocked down, 96 00:05:41,606 --> 00:05:45,126 Speaker 1: getting up again, stacking courage a top talent. 97 00:05:45,206 --> 00:05:49,806 Speaker 3: Paddle stroke after paddle stroke. Then came the pandemic. 98 00:05:50,726 --> 00:05:54,645 Speaker 1: The world got quiet, but for Charlie, the waves were. 99 00:05:54,526 --> 00:05:56,766 Speaker 3: Calling, with competitions on pause. 100 00:05:57,166 --> 00:06:00,246 Speaker 1: She served to stay sane, which is much healthier than 101 00:06:00,286 --> 00:06:04,445 Speaker 1: turning your garage into a sourdough bread factory. Hey, don't judge, 102 00:06:04,445 --> 00:06:07,806 Speaker 1: we all did some weird stuff from the pandemic anyway. 103 00:06:08,286 --> 00:06:12,046 Speaker 1: Every morning in the cold, Charlie turned her love into 104 00:06:12,126 --> 00:06:17,445 Speaker 1: a calling board. Shorts not uniforms, ocean not classroom. She 105 00:06:17,606 --> 00:06:21,246 Speaker 1: spent hours of affecting footwork, learning how to read tides, 106 00:06:21,325 --> 00:06:25,126 Speaker 1: getting stronger, even when the only crowds were seagulls. 107 00:06:26,005 --> 00:06:29,526 Speaker 4: During COVID, I just got soup into surfing, and I 108 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:32,165 Speaker 4: just knew that I wanted to do it. I wouldn't 109 00:06:32,166 --> 00:06:34,565 Speaker 4: stop doing it. I just couldn't stop. 110 00:06:36,926 --> 00:06:41,366 Speaker 1: When contests returned, Charlie came back sharper. She won heats, 111 00:06:41,726 --> 00:06:44,606 Speaker 1: placed high at state comps, and caught the attention of 112 00:06:44,646 --> 00:06:48,046 Speaker 1: surfing scouts. I asked Charlie how she prepares for these 113 00:06:48,046 --> 00:06:48,686 Speaker 1: big events. 114 00:06:48,966 --> 00:06:52,726 Speaker 4: Preparing for a competition, There's a lot involved. It depends 115 00:06:52,846 --> 00:06:55,766 Speaker 4: where it is and what the wave bofellas like, but 116 00:06:55,926 --> 00:06:58,005 Speaker 4: there's a lot of discipline involved. It's a lot of 117 00:06:58,086 --> 00:07:01,886 Speaker 4: time in the water, practicing skills and certain things need 118 00:07:01,926 --> 00:07:05,046 Speaker 4: to work on for that particular event. Eating and food 119 00:07:05,086 --> 00:07:08,325 Speaker 4: it's definitely a big part of it, like getting enough protein, 120 00:07:08,445 --> 00:07:12,326 Speaker 4: getting enough cars, making sure you're not energy deficient. But 121 00:07:12,526 --> 00:07:14,126 Speaker 4: it comes down to practice at the end of the 122 00:07:14,206 --> 00:07:16,126 Speaker 4: day and how much time you spend in the water. 123 00:07:17,246 --> 00:07:20,486 Speaker 1: Still, every medal was just a milestone on her way 124 00:07:20,526 --> 00:07:23,845 Speaker 1: to bigger goals, to surf with the world's best, to 125 00:07:24,006 --> 00:07:27,766 Speaker 1: inspire other girls, to show that surfing isn't just for boys, 126 00:07:28,126 --> 00:07:31,526 Speaker 1: or just for the locals or just the fearless. It's 127 00:07:31,526 --> 00:07:34,326 Speaker 1: for anyone who loves the water enough to try and 128 00:07:34,446 --> 00:07:38,646 Speaker 1: try again. But as Charlie was riding high, her love 129 00:07:38,646 --> 00:07:41,286 Speaker 1: of surfing would be put to the ultimate test. 130 00:07:41,766 --> 00:07:44,845 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually had a major setback. I injured my 131 00:07:44,926 --> 00:07:47,366 Speaker 4: knee and I had to have surgery. I was right 132 00:07:47,406 --> 00:07:50,086 Speaker 4: on the cut line to make the Challenger Series, which 133 00:07:50,126 --> 00:07:52,965 Speaker 4: is the next step up, and I didn't qualify because 134 00:07:53,046 --> 00:07:55,046 Speaker 4: I couldn't compete in the last comp. So that was 135 00:07:55,086 --> 00:07:57,846 Speaker 4: a major set like for me. But when I had 136 00:07:57,886 --> 00:07:59,766 Speaker 4: to stay out of the water, it was huge to 137 00:07:59,846 --> 00:08:01,965 Speaker 4: realize I want to be in the water, this is 138 00:08:02,006 --> 00:08:03,846 Speaker 4: what I want to do, Because sometimes you can be 139 00:08:04,046 --> 00:08:06,966 Speaker 4: going through the motions but really taking a step back 140 00:08:07,006 --> 00:08:09,206 Speaker 4: and realizing I want to spend the rest of my 141 00:08:09,246 --> 00:08:12,406 Speaker 4: life doing this, and I'm going to work as hard 142 00:08:12,446 --> 00:08:14,486 Speaker 4: as I can and do everything I can to get 143 00:08:14,686 --> 00:08:17,446 Speaker 4: back to where I was. Even more just because you 144 00:08:17,486 --> 00:08:19,286 Speaker 4: have a step back, the dream's still there. 145 00:08:21,366 --> 00:08:24,446 Speaker 1: Unable to get in the water, Charlie embraced her creative 146 00:08:24,486 --> 00:08:28,725 Speaker 1: side to stay mentally fresh, writing music, singing, but also 147 00:08:28,806 --> 00:08:31,326 Speaker 1: finding expression through another handy outlet. 148 00:08:31,566 --> 00:08:34,686 Speaker 4: I guess from a very young age, I was fielding 149 00:08:34,726 --> 00:08:38,206 Speaker 4: with lego blocks. Traditionally, like boys and men always taught 150 00:08:38,246 --> 00:08:40,286 Speaker 4: to build and they can do that, and I think 151 00:08:40,806 --> 00:08:44,046 Speaker 4: being able to show females that they can build whatever 152 00:08:44,045 --> 00:08:47,326 Speaker 4: they want and they can create whatever's in their head, 153 00:08:47,606 --> 00:08:48,646 Speaker 4: that's pretty incredible. 154 00:08:50,366 --> 00:08:54,686 Speaker 1: This injury setback became a blessing in disguise because Charlie 155 00:08:54,766 --> 00:08:57,805 Speaker 1: went deep in her mental game so she'd be even 156 00:08:57,966 --> 00:09:00,086 Speaker 1: better when the next competition rolled around. 157 00:09:00,526 --> 00:09:03,606 Speaker 4: Learning about intentions for me, was very important to know 158 00:09:04,446 --> 00:09:08,006 Speaker 4: that there's a different between like the outcome and the 159 00:09:08,045 --> 00:09:10,806 Speaker 4: wok you put in, and just knowing that if you 160 00:09:11,165 --> 00:09:14,886 Speaker 4: have the intent to want something and to do something 161 00:09:15,045 --> 00:09:17,565 Speaker 4: like that's enough and you're on the right track. 162 00:09:18,726 --> 00:09:22,406 Speaker 1: Today, Charlie Hately is building more than her own story. 163 00:09:22,926 --> 00:09:25,846 Speaker 1: She's paving a track through the surf for the next generation, 164 00:09:26,646 --> 00:09:30,566 Speaker 1: making it normal for girls to charge hard, celebrate wipeouts, 165 00:09:30,646 --> 00:09:34,565 Speaker 1: and dream huge. You'll see her in interviews encouraging kids 166 00:09:34,606 --> 00:09:37,126 Speaker 1: to just have a go, that everyone's a builder of 167 00:09:37,165 --> 00:09:40,405 Speaker 1: their own journey, even if it starts one paddle at 168 00:09:40,446 --> 00:09:44,045 Speaker 1: a time. So what would Charlie say to anyone scared 169 00:09:44,086 --> 00:09:47,285 Speaker 1: to try something new starting in the shallows or trying 170 00:09:47,285 --> 00:09:49,325 Speaker 1: to stand up after a complete wipeout? 171 00:09:49,566 --> 00:09:51,886 Speaker 3: Figuratively and literally. 172 00:09:51,766 --> 00:09:54,846 Speaker 4: If you're wanting to create a profession or do something. 173 00:09:54,886 --> 00:09:57,206 Speaker 4: The gymming of if you want it, you've got to 174 00:09:57,285 --> 00:10:00,446 Speaker 4: work hard and never give up, no matter what anyone 175 00:10:00,526 --> 00:10:03,926 Speaker 4: is telling you, no matter who said this, or you're 176 00:10:03,966 --> 00:10:07,806 Speaker 4: not enough. If you' believing yourself, then you can one 177 00:10:07,886 --> 00:10:11,086 Speaker 4: hundred percent get there. And I think finding a support 178 00:10:11,126 --> 00:10:13,566 Speaker 4: group that wants you to get where you want to 179 00:10:13,566 --> 00:10:16,886 Speaker 4: be as well is really important. And just believing in yourself. 180 00:10:21,006 --> 00:10:23,686 Speaker 1: Next time you watch the waves or face something that 181 00:10:23,766 --> 00:10:29,526 Speaker 1: scares you, remember Charlie Hately. She didn't just dream about surfing. 182 00:10:30,086 --> 00:10:33,846 Speaker 1: She built her way, wipe out by wipeout until she 183 00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:37,166 Speaker 1: was able to glide, spin and carve her name into 184 00:10:37,206 --> 00:10:41,246 Speaker 1: the water itself. Building your path, whether on land or 185 00:10:41,285 --> 00:10:45,405 Speaker 1: at sea, takes guts, patients, and a willingness. 186 00:10:44,886 --> 00:10:47,565 Speaker 3: To fall a lot before you fly. 187 00:10:48,206 --> 00:10:51,446 Speaker 1: Choose something you care about and promise yourself to try it, 188 00:10:51,926 --> 00:10:58,126 Speaker 1: just once more when it gets tough. Your challenge this 189 00:10:58,206 --> 00:11:02,046 Speaker 1: week Head to the water, your skateboard, or even your 190 00:11:02,086 --> 00:11:05,566 Speaker 1: own backyard and try something new, no matter how how 191 00:11:05,606 --> 00:11:09,006 Speaker 1: many times it takes. And the trick here, don't have 192 00:11:09,126 --> 00:11:11,966 Speaker 1: any expectations. Just give yourself a pat on the back 193 00:11:12,006 --> 00:11:14,406 Speaker 1: for having the courage to try, because That's how we 194 00:11:14,446 --> 00:11:17,766 Speaker 1: find out about ourselves, whether it becomes ten seconds of 195 00:11:17,806 --> 00:11:20,926 Speaker 1: discomfort or a lifetime of carving it up. 196 00:11:21,366 --> 00:11:23,366 Speaker 3: The only way to know is to start. 197 00:11:23,926 --> 00:11:27,846 Speaker 1: Great surfers and great builders are made by showing up 198 00:11:28,206 --> 00:11:34,806 Speaker 1: wave after wave. Thanks for listening to She Built That. Remember, 199 00:11:34,926 --> 00:11:39,366 Speaker 1: incredible girls don't just dream, they build. She Built That 200 00:11:39,486 --> 00:11:42,166 Speaker 1: was written by Tom Lyon. He also did the sound design. 201 00:11:42,646 --> 00:11:46,606 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Courtney Ammenhauser and I'm Annalise Todd. 202 00:11:46,966 --> 00:11:49,526 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week as we fly into the 203 00:11:49,526 --> 00:11:52,726 Speaker 1: stratosphere to tell a story of a woman whose journey 204 00:11:52,846 --> 00:11:53,526 Speaker 1: launched her. 205 00:11:53,726 --> 00:12:04,966 Speaker 5: Quite literally out of this world. See then, Mamma Mia. 206 00:12:05,045 --> 00:12:07,565 Speaker 3: Acknowledge the traditional owners of the land. 207 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:11,046 Speaker 1: We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigul people of 208 00:12:11,086 --> 00:12:14,606 Speaker 1: the Eor Nation. We pay our respects to their elders 209 00:12:14,686 --> 00:12:18,526 Speaker 1: past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal 210 00:12:18,566 --> 00:12:20,246 Speaker 1: and torrest Rate islander cultures.