1 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:19,624 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 3 00:00:19,744 --> 00:00:27,264 Speaker 1: is recorded on From Mama Mia. Welcome to this spill 4 00:00:27,304 --> 00:00:30,424 Speaker 1: your daily pop culture feax. I'm Laura Brodneck. 5 00:00:30,064 --> 00:00:31,104 Speaker 2: And I'm MPM. 6 00:00:31,504 --> 00:00:33,664 Speaker 1: And it's not many adults I know M who can 7 00:00:33,704 --> 00:00:36,704 Speaker 1: pull off. You've got plattid pigtails happening. 8 00:00:38,104 --> 00:00:39,944 Speaker 2: I feel like a very far from you. We're in 9 00:00:39,944 --> 00:00:42,544 Speaker 2: a different studio today. My mom did my hair this 10 00:00:42,624 --> 00:00:44,984 Speaker 2: morning because she stayed over at my apartment last night. 11 00:00:45,024 --> 00:00:46,144 Speaker 2: We had a bit of a sleepover. 12 00:00:46,344 --> 00:00:48,024 Speaker 1: That is the most adorable thing I'd ever heard a 13 00:00:48,064 --> 00:00:48,904 Speaker 1: grown woman say. 14 00:00:48,984 --> 00:00:52,504 Speaker 2: I think, well, it wasn't planned. I actually had a 15 00:00:52,544 --> 00:00:54,024 Speaker 2: movie premiere last night. 16 00:00:54,144 --> 00:00:56,904 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you weren't there, so I not go to 17 00:00:56,904 --> 00:00:57,344 Speaker 1: this one. 18 00:00:57,424 --> 00:01:00,264 Speaker 2: I had to fly the spill flag for both of us. 19 00:01:00,344 --> 00:01:02,504 Speaker 1: Did your mom have a fun time? She had Everlyn 20 00:01:02,544 --> 00:01:03,304 Speaker 1: have a fun time. 21 00:01:03,224 --> 00:01:06,464 Speaker 2: The best time. She was talking to all the influences. 22 00:01:06,544 --> 00:01:08,664 Speaker 1: And although you don't even do that, we just sit now, 23 00:01:08,744 --> 00:01:10,584 Speaker 1: seat quietly. Does she know that you and I sit 24 00:01:10,624 --> 00:01:12,944 Speaker 1: down seats quietly and we look at famous people. We 25 00:01:12,944 --> 00:01:13,624 Speaker 1: don't talk to them. 26 00:01:13,704 --> 00:01:15,224 Speaker 2: She did not know that, and I felt like I 27 00:01:15,264 --> 00:01:17,104 Speaker 2: would have destroyed her if I told her. But she 28 00:01:17,184 --> 00:01:20,104 Speaker 2: was sitting next to these influences, so everyone would know. 29 00:01:20,224 --> 00:01:22,304 Speaker 2: But they have like millions of followers on TikTok. 30 00:01:22,744 --> 00:01:24,384 Speaker 1: And did she say what do you do? No? 31 00:01:24,704 --> 00:01:27,424 Speaker 2: She they were serving at pizza at the event. It 32 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:29,344 Speaker 2: was fun, and she was like, and we missed out 33 00:01:29,344 --> 00:01:31,824 Speaker 2: on the pizza. And she was like, oh, that looks 34 00:01:31,904 --> 00:01:35,024 Speaker 2: nice and they were like, yeah, there's heaves out there 35 00:01:35,064 --> 00:01:37,304 Speaker 2: and she's like oh, and she's like, maybe I should 36 00:01:37,344 --> 00:01:39,184 Speaker 2: get some, and then they were like serving it and 37 00:01:39,184 --> 00:01:41,384 Speaker 2: then she wasn't looking and they were like, hey, hey, 38 00:01:41,424 --> 00:01:43,944 Speaker 2: there's more pizza here. Do you want something? And she's like, oh, actually, 39 00:01:43,944 --> 00:01:45,984 Speaker 2: I'm quite ful. We just had dinner before. We had 40 00:01:46,024 --> 00:01:47,544 Speaker 2: some noodles and some dumpling. 41 00:01:47,864 --> 00:01:48,304 Speaker 1: Oh. 42 00:01:48,344 --> 00:01:50,544 Speaker 2: And she's like, but you guys look great, like you 43 00:01:50,624 --> 00:01:53,224 Speaker 2: really enjoyed this film. I'm like, oh my god. 44 00:01:53,184 --> 00:01:55,104 Speaker 1: Next time your mom ditches, you goes and sits with 45 00:01:55,144 --> 00:01:55,904 Speaker 1: the influences. 46 00:01:55,984 --> 00:02:00,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw John Wiggle. Oh important important. I think 47 00:02:00,304 --> 00:02:01,824 Speaker 2: it's like a partner is pregnant now. 48 00:02:02,064 --> 00:02:05,864 Speaker 1: And she was like allegedly, I don't know if that's true. 49 00:02:06,144 --> 00:02:08,384 Speaker 2: He was with a pregnant woman and she was like, 50 00:02:08,424 --> 00:02:10,744 Speaker 2: oh my god, congrats, Oh my god. 51 00:02:10,784 --> 00:02:12,424 Speaker 1: Okay, we used to take your mom to every premiere 52 00:02:12,424 --> 00:02:13,784 Speaker 1: with us so we can get in with the other 53 00:02:13,784 --> 00:02:14,384 Speaker 1: famous people. 54 00:02:14,704 --> 00:02:17,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were into it. But yeah, she enjoyed the movie. 55 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:19,144 Speaker 2: She didn't see the first two, but she had a 56 00:02:19,144 --> 00:02:21,704 Speaker 2: good time. She's like, this is really nice. 57 00:02:22,064 --> 00:02:25,704 Speaker 1: Well, coming up on today's show, unfortunately Emily's mum doesn't 58 00:02:25,704 --> 00:02:27,904 Speaker 1: make an appearance, or does she, I don't know. Stay tuned. 59 00:02:28,584 --> 00:02:31,944 Speaker 1: We are talking about Nicole Kimmen's brilliant new marketing plan. 60 00:02:32,104 --> 00:02:36,384 Speaker 1: She's tricked everyone. Also, there's so many more Sean Colmb's allegations. 61 00:02:36,384 --> 00:02:39,104 Speaker 1: You guys, we have to get into that. But first, 62 00:02:39,184 --> 00:02:41,384 Speaker 1: coming off the back of your influence and news, I 63 00:02:41,424 --> 00:02:42,944 Speaker 1: have a little bit of of you hanging out with 64 00:02:42,944 --> 00:02:45,064 Speaker 1: the influencers and your mum last night. I have a 65 00:02:45,064 --> 00:02:47,224 Speaker 1: bit of influence and news for you, and that is 66 00:02:47,264 --> 00:02:50,944 Speaker 1: the fact that one Queen Camilla, your fath who's currently 67 00:02:50,984 --> 00:02:51,304 Speaker 1: in this. 68 00:02:51,304 --> 00:02:53,424 Speaker 2: Okay, she's not my fave. I just said, I'm a 69 00:02:53,504 --> 00:02:56,184 Speaker 2: royal apologist, like the history of the royal family. 70 00:02:56,464 --> 00:02:59,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, current the current dyes, that's equally problematic. But we'll 71 00:02:59,664 --> 00:03:01,864 Speaker 1: just loss right over that for the purpose of today's show. 72 00:03:02,184 --> 00:03:03,624 Speaker 1: And that is the fact that when she was on 73 00:03:03,704 --> 00:03:06,384 Speaker 1: her recent royal outing in the last couple of days, 74 00:03:06,504 --> 00:03:09,624 Speaker 1: she was attending an event, and she attended the event 75 00:03:09,704 --> 00:03:12,704 Speaker 1: right next door to the hotel where the cast of 76 00:03:12,864 --> 00:03:15,704 Speaker 1: Married at First Site twenty twenty five are both staying 77 00:03:15,744 --> 00:03:18,984 Speaker 1: and filming, and the cast saw her outside and they 78 00:03:18,984 --> 00:03:21,904 Speaker 1: were filming from their balcony. And then some of the 79 00:03:21,944 --> 00:03:23,904 Speaker 1: men who were on the new season Married at First 80 00:03:23,944 --> 00:03:26,704 Speaker 1: Site snuck outside into the crowd and were trying to 81 00:03:26,784 --> 00:03:29,624 Speaker 1: get this is what's been reported, trying to get over 82 00:03:29,744 --> 00:03:31,984 Speaker 1: to Camilla and get a glance of her. And I 83 00:03:32,024 --> 00:03:34,464 Speaker 1: don't think the cameras follow them out. But now, if 84 00:03:34,464 --> 00:03:36,424 Speaker 1: you see the headlines today that Camilla might be on 85 00:03:36,504 --> 00:03:38,984 Speaker 1: Married at First Site twenty twenty five, it's not a 86 00:03:39,024 --> 00:03:39,784 Speaker 1: complete lie. 87 00:03:39,824 --> 00:03:43,504 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she has no idea what like Australian 88 00:03:43,584 --> 00:03:44,904 Speaker 2: Royalty she has walked into. 89 00:03:44,704 --> 00:03:48,544 Speaker 1: On Yeah, it's like two different sides of Australian Royalty meeting. 90 00:03:48,744 --> 00:03:50,944 Speaker 1: But I think if they needed some relationship advice, like 91 00:03:50,944 --> 00:03:53,864 Speaker 1: the woman would have some imagine. 92 00:03:53,384 --> 00:03:56,464 Speaker 2: Like Camilla for the camera, for the camera. I'm so jealous. 93 00:03:56,584 --> 00:03:59,664 Speaker 2: I wanted to go see Camilla Jazz and I didn't 94 00:03:59,664 --> 00:04:02,824 Speaker 2: get the chance to. Apparently it was absolutely packed down there. 95 00:04:02,824 --> 00:04:04,064 Speaker 2: You know how we were saying when they went to 96 00:04:04,104 --> 00:04:06,424 Speaker 2: the opera house and people were invited along to meet them, 97 00:04:06,584 --> 00:04:08,424 Speaker 2: and we were saying, like, we hope people show up. 98 00:04:08,464 --> 00:04:11,224 Speaker 2: We did not need to worry because the crowds of 99 00:04:11,264 --> 00:04:13,744 Speaker 2: people were just sneaking around the street like. 100 00:04:13,744 --> 00:04:18,544 Speaker 1: You would have been crushed. So Nicole Kidman's new movie, 101 00:04:18,704 --> 00:04:21,864 Speaker 1: Baby Girl, is coming out in December. Bit of a 102 00:04:21,944 --> 00:04:24,464 Speaker 1: Christmas movie. You can take your parents to see this one. 103 00:04:24,624 --> 00:04:25,664 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 104 00:04:27,024 --> 00:04:31,384 Speaker 1: So in this movie, which has been described as extremely kinky, 105 00:04:31,504 --> 00:04:34,584 Speaker 1: that's in the tagline for trailer. Yeah, I've seen the trailer. 106 00:04:34,544 --> 00:04:36,984 Speaker 2: Was intense and scary, but it's. 107 00:04:36,824 --> 00:04:38,424 Speaker 1: Not meant to be scary. What are you talking about. 108 00:04:38,744 --> 00:04:40,224 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a sexy thriller. 109 00:04:40,664 --> 00:04:41,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, thriller. 110 00:04:41,544 --> 00:04:43,864 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you have a very low threshold for movies, 111 00:04:44,024 --> 00:04:45,304 Speaker 1: so thriller and sexy. 112 00:04:45,024 --> 00:04:45,864 Speaker 2: Should not go together. 113 00:04:45,944 --> 00:04:49,184 Speaker 1: They always do, okay. So in Baby Girl, Nicole Kidman 114 00:04:49,224 --> 00:04:53,504 Speaker 1: plays this very powerful businesswoman with a very cute, lovely family. 115 00:04:53,624 --> 00:04:57,464 Speaker 1: She's married to Antonio Banderaz, notoriously a very sexy man. 116 00:04:57,864 --> 00:05:00,384 Speaker 1: And then she meets a new intern who has come 117 00:05:00,424 --> 00:05:01,584 Speaker 1: to work in her business. 118 00:05:01,904 --> 00:05:04,744 Speaker 2: So every other film Nicole has been then well. 119 00:05:04,544 --> 00:05:07,544 Speaker 1: No, this is very different, played by Harris Dickinson, who 120 00:05:07,584 --> 00:05:09,184 Speaker 1: you might know as the hot guy from where the 121 00:05:09,224 --> 00:05:13,024 Speaker 1: Crawdads sing, Yes, Yes, very yes, very hot actor. So 122 00:05:13,544 --> 00:05:16,064 Speaker 1: there's a scene if you've seen the trailer, where he 123 00:05:16,264 --> 00:05:18,904 Speaker 1: says he can control his dog by giving her a biscuit, 124 00:05:19,184 --> 00:05:22,264 Speaker 1: and this parleys into him and Nicole Kimmen starting a 125 00:05:22,344 --> 00:05:26,064 Speaker 1: crazy affair where it's very kind of like dom sub 126 00:05:26,424 --> 00:05:28,304 Speaker 1: you know, she's being submissive to him. They have all 127 00:05:28,304 --> 00:05:31,104 Speaker 1: these wild sex acts where he's controlling her because. 128 00:05:30,904 --> 00:05:33,224 Speaker 2: In real life it's like different. She's like the CEO 129 00:05:33,264 --> 00:05:34,184 Speaker 2: and he's the intern. 130 00:05:34,344 --> 00:05:37,344 Speaker 1: So they get roll and they roll reverse behind the scenes, 131 00:05:37,424 --> 00:05:39,704 Speaker 1: which leads to all sorts of sex. 132 00:05:39,464 --> 00:05:41,544 Speaker 2: Scene and it was quiet inemidating. 133 00:05:41,744 --> 00:05:44,264 Speaker 1: It does sound very sexy and I'm into it. But 134 00:05:44,424 --> 00:05:46,304 Speaker 1: they've been doing a whole lot of press in the 135 00:05:46,344 --> 00:05:48,464 Speaker 1: lead up to the movie coming out in December, and 136 00:05:48,584 --> 00:05:51,744 Speaker 1: in a recent interview, Nicole Kidmen the thing is, I 137 00:05:51,824 --> 00:05:53,944 Speaker 1: do believe she was joking, but this is what happens 138 00:05:53,944 --> 00:05:56,104 Speaker 1: on the internet when an interview gets taken in written 139 00:05:56,104 --> 00:05:58,904 Speaker 1: form and then everyone else reads the headlines, and then 140 00:05:58,944 --> 00:06:01,624 Speaker 1: everyone writes around the headlines what happened? So she I 141 00:06:01,664 --> 00:06:04,504 Speaker 1: think she said jokingly that she was so turned on 142 00:06:04,744 --> 00:06:08,064 Speaker 1: while filming this new erotic drama Baby Girl, that she 143 00:06:08,224 --> 00:06:12,304 Speaker 1: had to temporarily like keep calling pause on production because 144 00:06:12,304 --> 00:06:17,304 Speaker 1: she was so sick of having orgasms, she said. She 145 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:19,384 Speaker 1: said in this interview, there were times we were shooting 146 00:06:19,384 --> 00:06:21,864 Speaker 1: where I was like, I don't want to orgasm anymore. 147 00:06:22,264 --> 00:06:25,064 Speaker 1: And then she said that sometimes the sex scenes would 148 00:06:25,064 --> 00:06:28,264 Speaker 1: get so intense and so graphic that she would yell 149 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:30,264 Speaker 1: out to the cast and crew, don't come near me. 150 00:06:30,344 --> 00:06:32,624 Speaker 1: I hate doing this. I don't care if I'm ever 151 00:06:32,664 --> 00:06:35,064 Speaker 1: touched toget in my life. That's me doing a cock kippin. 152 00:06:35,384 --> 00:06:40,264 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, that is intense. So do we 153 00:06:40,304 --> 00:06:42,304 Speaker 2: think it's a joke. I think it sounds pretty real. 154 00:06:42,504 --> 00:06:44,304 Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's I meant the joke part 155 00:06:44,384 --> 00:06:46,384 Speaker 1: is that I do not believe, although I wasn't on 156 00:06:46,424 --> 00:06:48,304 Speaker 1: the set, I do not believe that she was having 157 00:06:48,344 --> 00:06:52,104 Speaker 1: an orgasm every single time they filmed something, or indeed 158 00:06:52,264 --> 00:06:55,624 Speaker 1: at all. I think she was just playing having an orgasm, 159 00:06:55,664 --> 00:06:57,504 Speaker 1: which I feel would be very especially when you. 160 00:06:57,464 --> 00:06:59,864 Speaker 2: Feel like playing having an orgasm would be much more 161 00:06:59,904 --> 00:07:00,984 Speaker 2: difficult than actually. 162 00:07:01,344 --> 00:07:05,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, the physical structure of getting her body right for that, 163 00:07:05,544 --> 00:07:08,184 Speaker 1: the face, the noises she'd have to make, and also 164 00:07:08,224 --> 00:07:09,584 Speaker 1: it's not like you do it a couple of times 165 00:07:09,584 --> 00:07:11,824 Speaker 1: and that's it. The scenes Like I don't know if 166 00:07:11,824 --> 00:07:13,464 Speaker 1: you've ever been on a movie set, but sometimes you 167 00:07:13,504 --> 00:07:15,784 Speaker 1: watch a scene being shot and they literally shoot the 168 00:07:15,864 --> 00:07:19,704 Speaker 1: same thing thirty to forty times, and that's not an exaggeration. 169 00:07:19,824 --> 00:07:21,264 Speaker 1: And then sometimes I go to a cinema and then 170 00:07:21,304 --> 00:07:23,584 Speaker 1: I watch the movie that I watched the scene be filmed, 171 00:07:23,984 --> 00:07:25,624 Speaker 1: and I was like, that was two days of my 172 00:07:25,784 --> 00:07:28,744 Speaker 1: life watching that be filmed, and now it was two 173 00:07:28,784 --> 00:07:30,024 Speaker 1: seconds in the whole movie. 174 00:07:30,104 --> 00:07:30,824 Speaker 2: Oh I hate that. 175 00:07:30,904 --> 00:07:32,824 Speaker 1: So I think, if the whole movie is based around 176 00:07:32,864 --> 00:07:35,744 Speaker 1: these sex scenes and she's having these intense orgasms, that 177 00:07:35,824 --> 00:07:38,024 Speaker 1: could have been weeks of filming that. So I understand 178 00:07:38,024 --> 00:07:38,944 Speaker 1: why the woman is tired. 179 00:07:39,184 --> 00:07:41,424 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's doing God's work. 180 00:07:42,344 --> 00:07:43,984 Speaker 1: But the thing about it, I feel like we're gonna. 181 00:07:43,824 --> 00:07:46,424 Speaker 2: Say, like literally on the screen, like half an orgasm. 182 00:07:46,824 --> 00:07:48,584 Speaker 1: No, I think this movie is going to deliver on 183 00:07:48,624 --> 00:07:49,304 Speaker 1: all the orgasms. 184 00:07:49,304 --> 00:07:51,464 Speaker 2: See why you making me take my parents to watch it? 185 00:07:52,024 --> 00:07:53,904 Speaker 1: I just thought they like a movie. They like a movie, 186 00:07:53,904 --> 00:07:55,624 Speaker 1: adding there might be some free pizza, maybe they can 187 00:07:55,664 --> 00:07:58,504 Speaker 1: watch it on that. But what I think is interesting 188 00:07:58,544 --> 00:08:01,184 Speaker 1: here is that one, everyone thinks she's being overly serious, 189 00:08:01,224 --> 00:08:02,784 Speaker 1: and I think there is a part of her that's 190 00:08:02,824 --> 00:08:05,304 Speaker 1: just leading into the joke element of it. But two 191 00:08:05,464 --> 00:08:08,224 Speaker 1: is I think that the marketing campaign for this movie 192 00:08:08,264 --> 00:08:11,704 Speaker 1: has just been so genius, because I mean, this is 193 00:08:11,784 --> 00:08:14,144 Speaker 1: probably the third or four time we've talked about it 194 00:08:14,384 --> 00:08:16,424 Speaker 1: on the spill since it was announced, and normally we 195 00:08:16,424 --> 00:08:18,584 Speaker 1: would only do that for like a crazy, big blockbuster 196 00:08:18,584 --> 00:08:20,784 Speaker 1: where there was lots of you know, big news and 197 00:08:20,824 --> 00:08:24,064 Speaker 1: cast announcement around it. And it's because every time they 198 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:26,824 Speaker 1: do any little bit of press, Nicole Kimmen drops these 199 00:08:26,864 --> 00:08:30,744 Speaker 1: like saucy little stories about having wild chemistry with Antonio 200 00:08:30,784 --> 00:08:33,424 Speaker 1: Bandars or how she was so scared to do this 201 00:08:33,464 --> 00:08:35,464 Speaker 1: movie but she had to push herself out of her 202 00:08:35,464 --> 00:08:37,904 Speaker 1: comfort zone and she's done some wild stuff before, like 203 00:08:37,944 --> 00:08:40,824 Speaker 1: the woman is in an A list actress's body, but 204 00:08:40,944 --> 00:08:43,224 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, she's really just like a little crazy 205 00:08:43,264 --> 00:08:45,784 Speaker 1: indie actress who loves to do weird stuff. But because 206 00:08:45,784 --> 00:08:48,344 Speaker 1: she keeps dropping these stories like her marketing plan is 207 00:08:48,384 --> 00:08:49,064 Speaker 1: quite genius. 208 00:08:50,184 --> 00:08:52,624 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. But yeah, she seems like she's 209 00:08:53,024 --> 00:08:56,304 Speaker 2: especially the stuff that she's doing recently, The Perfect Couple, 210 00:08:56,824 --> 00:08:59,064 Speaker 2: And then we saw that movie with Zach Efron, and 211 00:08:59,104 --> 00:09:01,424 Speaker 2: she's kind of like letting loose a little bit more. 212 00:09:01,464 --> 00:09:04,104 Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, I mean, she has always done that, 213 00:09:04,184 --> 00:09:06,464 Speaker 1: but maybe she's just doing a bit more in mainstream 214 00:09:06,864 --> 00:09:07,864 Speaker 1: movies at the moment. 215 00:09:07,944 --> 00:09:09,704 Speaker 2: And do I think she's done with the whole like 216 00:09:09,904 --> 00:09:12,344 Speaker 2: chasing the next Academy award. 217 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:14,704 Speaker 1: Potentially, I don't know. I mean, she's got so many 218 00:09:14,704 --> 00:09:17,464 Speaker 1: projects coming out, Like the woman is a workaholic. She's 219 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:20,024 Speaker 1: got you know, multiple movies and TV shows coming out 220 00:09:20,024 --> 00:09:21,504 Speaker 1: from now until I'm going to say the end of 221 00:09:21,544 --> 00:09:24,464 Speaker 1: Eternity with her production schedule. So there could be a 222 00:09:24,504 --> 00:09:26,944 Speaker 1: guess an Oscar moment in there, but I think for 223 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:29,224 Speaker 1: this movie, it is just about because you know, she's 224 00:09:29,224 --> 00:09:31,744 Speaker 1: got so much money, she's got the endorsements, she produces 225 00:09:31,784 --> 00:09:35,104 Speaker 1: everything she works on, so anything that she loves young 226 00:09:35,144 --> 00:09:37,584 Speaker 1: men and look don't we all? But I think also 227 00:09:37,624 --> 00:09:40,424 Speaker 1: looking at something like look how anyone but you took off. 228 00:09:40,584 --> 00:09:42,504 Speaker 1: That was you know, over a year ago now, But 229 00:09:42,584 --> 00:09:45,104 Speaker 1: the build up to it with Sydney Sweeney and Glenn 230 00:09:45,144 --> 00:09:48,664 Speaker 1: Powell of them saying like they got too flustered, you know, 231 00:09:48,744 --> 00:09:51,544 Speaker 1: filming their scenes. The chemistry was too strong, Like it 232 00:09:51,584 --> 00:09:54,264 Speaker 1: was clearly a marketing plan, but the build up for 233 00:09:54,304 --> 00:09:56,864 Speaker 1: that movie was so intense that everyone went and saw it. 234 00:09:57,384 --> 00:10:00,584 Speaker 1: Or it's like with that upcoming Andrew Garfield Florence Pugh movie, 235 00:10:00,584 --> 00:10:03,024 Speaker 1: we live in time, Like they're obviously doing a very 236 00:10:03,064 --> 00:10:05,344 Speaker 1: cute press tour together at the moment, and they're talking 237 00:10:05,424 --> 00:10:07,424 Speaker 1: about the important parts of the film because you know, 238 00:10:07,464 --> 00:10:10,264 Speaker 1: it appears from the trailer that Florence Pugh's character has 239 00:10:10,464 --> 00:10:13,384 Speaker 1: a diagnosis of some sort of terminal illness. But they're 240 00:10:13,384 --> 00:10:16,664 Speaker 1: also really hyping up the sex scenes and the chemistry 241 00:10:16,664 --> 00:10:19,344 Speaker 1: between them. And Andrew Garfield like he's been a cole 242 00:10:19,424 --> 00:10:22,024 Speaker 1: Kimmen of that press tour where he was saying, we 243 00:10:22,264 --> 00:10:24,624 Speaker 1: leant into some sex scenes and we went further than 244 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:26,544 Speaker 1: we had to go when we really let loose. 245 00:10:26,544 --> 00:10:29,744 Speaker 2: And then especially now that it's supposedly single, it feels 246 00:10:29,784 --> 00:10:30,464 Speaker 2: even more. 247 00:10:30,304 --> 00:10:33,064 Speaker 1: Intense exactly, and he's saying, oh, At one stage, we 248 00:10:33,144 --> 00:10:35,464 Speaker 1: looked up and we were like, sow into the sex scene. 249 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:37,024 Speaker 1: Then we finished, and we looked up and all the 250 00:10:37,024 --> 00:10:38,984 Speaker 1: cameras were off and everyone had stopped, and we had 251 00:10:39,024 --> 00:10:41,984 Speaker 1: just kept going. I was like, okay, sir, alright, we 252 00:10:42,064 --> 00:10:44,664 Speaker 1: get it. This scene's hot. We're gonna come see the movie. Okay, 253 00:10:44,784 --> 00:10:47,024 Speaker 1: this is giving Courtney Carashional. Well, I'm excited for you 254 00:10:47,064 --> 00:10:49,224 Speaker 1: and I to have our movie date to Baby Girl 255 00:10:49,264 --> 00:10:49,744 Speaker 1: in December. 256 00:10:49,744 --> 00:10:51,224 Speaker 2: As long as you don't ditch me for another date, 257 00:10:51,264 --> 00:10:57,664 Speaker 2: I'll be fine. There are seven new sexual abuse lawsuits 258 00:10:57,704 --> 00:11:01,064 Speaker 2: that Sean Diddy Combs has been hit with. One of 259 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:04,544 Speaker 2: the claims included the alleged assault of a thirteen year 260 00:11:04,584 --> 00:11:07,904 Speaker 2: old girl. She alleged that the assault took place at 261 00:11:07,944 --> 00:11:11,544 Speaker 2: the two thousand MTV Music Video War at an after party, 262 00:11:11,984 --> 00:11:15,464 Speaker 2: where Sean Combs and an unnamed male celebrity raped her 263 00:11:15,584 --> 00:11:19,384 Speaker 2: while an unnamed female celebrity watched. She also alleged that 264 00:11:19,424 --> 00:11:22,144 Speaker 2: after it happened, Shawn Combs told her, you are ready 265 00:11:22,344 --> 00:11:22,944 Speaker 2: to party. 266 00:11:23,704 --> 00:11:26,384 Speaker 1: Every time I hear anything about these allegations, like the 267 00:11:26,424 --> 00:11:29,304 Speaker 1: horrific nature of them just hits me the same. Even 268 00:11:29,344 --> 00:11:32,264 Speaker 1: though there's so many now and their stories all reads 269 00:11:32,384 --> 00:11:34,024 Speaker 1: so similar, which is very chilling. 270 00:11:34,224 --> 00:11:37,184 Speaker 2: Also really like a terrible person. Because this morning we 271 00:11:37,184 --> 00:11:40,464 Speaker 2: were talking about when I was prepping for this episode 272 00:11:40,864 --> 00:11:43,064 Speaker 2: and I asked her. I was like, we're already covered this, 273 00:11:43,224 --> 00:11:45,464 Speaker 2: and you were like, no, it's a different one. But 274 00:11:45,504 --> 00:11:47,224 Speaker 2: they all read so similar. 275 00:11:47,024 --> 00:11:50,024 Speaker 1: Exactly like you think that you've covered the worst one. 276 00:11:50,144 --> 00:11:52,824 Speaker 1: I mean, they're all awful. It does feel sometimes with 277 00:11:52,864 --> 00:11:55,944 Speaker 1: these allegations that you're hearing repeated news. And that's why 278 00:11:55,944 --> 00:11:57,824 Speaker 1: I wonder if some parts of this, of the Shawn 279 00:11:57,864 --> 00:12:00,384 Speaker 1: Combs allegations, people are turning away from because they're like, 280 00:12:00,384 --> 00:12:03,464 Speaker 1: you have heard that, but they're new allegations every time. 281 00:12:03,624 --> 00:12:07,104 Speaker 1: It's just that there's so many allegations of young men 282 00:12:07,144 --> 00:12:09,504 Speaker 1: and women in particular, you know, teens, a nine year 283 00:12:09,504 --> 00:12:13,704 Speaker 1: old boy, this woman who was thirteen being subjected to 284 00:12:13,784 --> 00:12:17,464 Speaker 1: these sorts of atrocities at these parties, and because the 285 00:12:17,504 --> 00:12:20,344 Speaker 1: stories are so similar, I think people are not realizing 286 00:12:20,624 --> 00:12:22,504 Speaker 1: how many separate claims there are. 287 00:12:22,624 --> 00:12:25,744 Speaker 2: There's also been another accuser who's a seventeen year old 288 00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:27,584 Speaker 2: boy that said that he was making small talk with 289 00:12:27,664 --> 00:12:30,584 Speaker 2: Shawn Combs at a penthouse party in Manhattan in twenty 290 00:12:30,624 --> 00:12:33,704 Speaker 2: twenty two, and he alleged that Combs told him that 291 00:12:33,744 --> 00:12:36,704 Speaker 2: he could make him a star before drugging and sexually 292 00:12:36,744 --> 00:12:39,624 Speaker 2: assaulting him, which is so similar to that last case 293 00:12:39,624 --> 00:12:42,384 Speaker 2: that we talked about. During all of this, Shawncomb's children 294 00:12:42,424 --> 00:12:45,344 Speaker 2: have also released a joint statement. It was posted to 295 00:12:45,424 --> 00:12:48,864 Speaker 2: his eldest childs Quincy's account, who's thirty three, and collabed 296 00:12:48,904 --> 00:12:51,464 Speaker 2: with the other children's account. It was a photo of 297 00:12:51,504 --> 00:12:53,984 Speaker 2: their family with Comb sitting in the front and center, 298 00:12:54,024 --> 00:12:57,824 Speaker 2: and the statement read this past month has devastated our family. 299 00:12:58,024 --> 00:13:01,104 Speaker 2: Many have judged both him and us based on accusations, 300 00:13:01,144 --> 00:13:05,424 Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, and false narratives that have spiraled into absurdity 301 00:13:05,464 --> 00:13:09,224 Speaker 2: on social media. We stand united, supporting you every step 302 00:13:09,224 --> 00:13:12,144 Speaker 2: of the way on to the truth, knowing it will 303 00:13:12,144 --> 00:13:14,664 Speaker 2: prevail and nothing will break the strength of our family. 304 00:13:15,024 --> 00:13:18,584 Speaker 2: We miss you and love you, Dad. So Quincy is 305 00:13:18,704 --> 00:13:22,424 Speaker 2: the son of late actor and model Kim Porter from 306 00:13:22,464 --> 00:13:26,184 Speaker 2: a previous relationships, and then Sean Combs adopted him when 307 00:13:26,504 --> 00:13:27,184 Speaker 2: Porter died. 308 00:13:27,624 --> 00:13:30,424 Speaker 1: I feel like there's two very competing narratives out there 309 00:13:30,464 --> 00:13:33,464 Speaker 1: at the moment, and one is very much centered on 310 00:13:33,544 --> 00:13:36,464 Speaker 1: all of the celebrities who we think are embroiled in 311 00:13:36,504 --> 00:13:39,864 Speaker 1: these allegations in an upcoming trial. So in that allegation 312 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:41,904 Speaker 1: that you were reading out about the thirteen year old girl, 313 00:13:41,984 --> 00:13:44,744 Speaker 1: where there's the allegation of a male celebrity and a 314 00:13:44,784 --> 00:13:46,224 Speaker 1: female who watched, that's. 315 00:13:46,104 --> 00:13:49,384 Speaker 2: What everyone's really like focusing on. Yeah, which I'm like, 316 00:13:49,624 --> 00:13:52,264 Speaker 2: I feel like all of these stories should be seen 317 00:13:52,344 --> 00:13:55,504 Speaker 2: through like a similar leveled lens. But I think the 318 00:13:55,624 --> 00:13:59,024 Speaker 2: sound of like another celebrity being involved, even with people 319 00:13:59,024 --> 00:14:02,504 Speaker 2: saying that apparently these celebrities are more well known than 320 00:14:02,584 --> 00:14:04,184 Speaker 2: Comb's himself, well. 321 00:14:03,944 --> 00:14:06,144 Speaker 1: That's I think the interesting thing, and I understand why 322 00:14:06,184 --> 00:14:09,064 Speaker 1: people are really gravitating towards that part of the story. 323 00:14:09,424 --> 00:14:11,464 Speaker 1: And what you and I I've spoken out before is 324 00:14:11,544 --> 00:14:14,144 Speaker 1: people online or with you know, TikTok accounts thinking that 325 00:14:14,184 --> 00:14:18,144 Speaker 1: they've guessed the person because they've stitched together some video 326 00:14:18,264 --> 00:14:20,624 Speaker 1: or audio of people on red carpets together and we 327 00:14:20,744 --> 00:14:22,664 Speaker 1: just don't know, because what we do know is that 328 00:14:22,704 --> 00:14:25,424 Speaker 1: at the time Shawn Colmbs had a huge circle of 329 00:14:25,464 --> 00:14:28,624 Speaker 1: celebrities around him. And also the fact that the legal 330 00:14:28,624 --> 00:14:31,824 Speaker 1: team around this case are saying that these two celebrities 331 00:14:31,864 --> 00:14:34,784 Speaker 1: who have been named and like alleged they saw all 332 00:14:34,784 --> 00:14:37,824 Speaker 1: these horrific acts go down, are known to the team, 333 00:14:37,904 --> 00:14:40,024 Speaker 1: and the fact they're saying they're much more famous than 334 00:14:40,064 --> 00:14:42,864 Speaker 1: Shaan Comb's just because you think about these people that 335 00:14:43,384 --> 00:14:46,224 Speaker 1: we've loved over the years, if we're loving their music 336 00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:48,704 Speaker 1: or their movies, if they're very high profile, it means 337 00:14:48,704 --> 00:14:50,904 Speaker 1: they have a very big fan base. And if they 338 00:14:50,944 --> 00:14:53,824 Speaker 1: were around when these allegations took place, it means they've 339 00:14:53,864 --> 00:14:57,224 Speaker 1: been famous for over two decades. So what's going to 340 00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:59,784 Speaker 1: happen is that when this trial starts in May of 341 00:14:59,864 --> 00:15:02,344 Speaker 1: next year, the same day as the met Gala, is 342 00:15:02,384 --> 00:15:05,184 Speaker 1: that eventually these names are going to start to come 343 00:15:05,224 --> 00:15:08,384 Speaker 1: out and a whole string of people that we've loved 344 00:15:08,424 --> 00:15:11,464 Speaker 1: for twenty years are probably going to be embroiled in this. 345 00:15:11,824 --> 00:15:13,984 Speaker 1: And it's obviously not as important as the victims and 346 00:15:14,024 --> 00:15:15,944 Speaker 1: what they went through, but it is gonna, I think, 347 00:15:16,024 --> 00:15:17,384 Speaker 1: send shockwaves through people. 348 00:15:17,504 --> 00:15:21,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in Hollywood, right because we have talked about 349 00:15:21,224 --> 00:15:24,104 Speaker 2: the white parties and the freak of parties, and we 350 00:15:24,184 --> 00:15:27,384 Speaker 2: talked about like leaked security footage and the fact that 351 00:15:27,424 --> 00:15:30,424 Speaker 2: this footage has been like shopped around Hollywood for a 352 00:15:30,464 --> 00:15:34,304 Speaker 2: long time, and the fact that someone's sexual assault is shoppable. 353 00:15:34,664 --> 00:15:36,184 Speaker 2: Is absolutely disgusting. 354 00:15:36,504 --> 00:15:38,784 Speaker 1: And I think also with the children's statement, I think 355 00:15:38,944 --> 00:15:41,144 Speaker 1: was really sobering for me to read when they released that, 356 00:15:41,264 --> 00:15:44,584 Speaker 1: because it was this reminder that, like, there have obviously 357 00:15:44,624 --> 00:15:48,264 Speaker 1: always been allegations against Sean Comb's and there's been celebrities 358 00:15:48,264 --> 00:15:50,264 Speaker 1: saying for years and they wouldn't go to his parties, 359 00:15:50,344 --> 00:15:52,504 Speaker 1: or that their kids go to his parties. There's been 360 00:15:52,504 --> 00:15:54,624 Speaker 1: people who are saying, like, you don't understand what happens, 361 00:15:54,664 --> 00:15:56,704 Speaker 1: but really, like for a long time, he was very 362 00:15:56,704 --> 00:15:59,904 Speaker 1: beloved for his music and just also for the person 363 00:15:59,984 --> 00:16:02,784 Speaker 1: he was, and he was also really known as a 364 00:16:02,784 --> 00:16:05,944 Speaker 1: good father, and we have no information around that, but 365 00:16:05,944 --> 00:16:08,944 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, it's so interesting how someone's public 366 00:16:08,984 --> 00:16:11,864 Speaker 1: persona can be so different to what's been alleged that 367 00:16:11,944 --> 00:16:15,424 Speaker 1: was happening behind the scenes. But yes, when he adopted Quincy, 368 00:16:15,504 --> 00:16:17,304 Speaker 1: he was always you know, this is my son, this 369 00:16:17,424 --> 00:16:20,344 Speaker 1: is my child, and Quincy has always really talked about 370 00:16:20,344 --> 00:16:23,264 Speaker 1: Seawan Comb's being this, you know, amazing father to him. 371 00:16:23,784 --> 00:16:27,464 Speaker 1: And then there's the twins, Delilah and Jesse with kim Porter, 372 00:16:27,744 --> 00:16:29,744 Speaker 1: and also the whole kim Porter thing is also I 373 00:16:29,784 --> 00:16:31,784 Speaker 1: think that people are looking at that with fresh eyes 374 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:34,304 Speaker 1: because she was with Shawn Combs so such a long time, 375 00:16:34,344 --> 00:16:37,504 Speaker 1: they had kids together, and in recent years when she 376 00:16:38,024 --> 00:16:40,864 Speaker 1: unexpectedly passed away, there are now questions. We have no 377 00:16:40,904 --> 00:16:42,904 Speaker 1: information about that, so want to go into the allegations, 378 00:16:42,904 --> 00:16:45,384 Speaker 1: but there is you know, after that, it was very 379 00:16:45,464 --> 00:16:48,544 Speaker 1: much kind of Shawn Combs stepping in to be a father, 380 00:16:48,664 --> 00:16:51,944 Speaker 1: to really look after those two twin girls. And he 381 00:16:52,024 --> 00:16:54,824 Speaker 1: has seven children with I think it's four different women, 382 00:16:54,944 --> 00:16:57,504 Speaker 1: seven children, but they're all very present in his life 383 00:16:57,584 --> 00:17:00,384 Speaker 1: and he's always pictured with them at red carpets and events, 384 00:17:00,664 --> 00:17:03,264 Speaker 1: and the older kids have been at his trials every 385 00:17:03,264 --> 00:17:06,344 Speaker 1: time there's a hearing or more evidence, especially Quincy and 386 00:17:06,384 --> 00:17:09,384 Speaker 1: Delilah and Jesse. Some of the older kids are always 387 00:17:09,384 --> 00:17:11,344 Speaker 1: seen coming out of the court house with his mum, 388 00:17:11,424 --> 00:17:13,864 Speaker 1: and they've been saying from the beginning, none of this 389 00:17:13,944 --> 00:17:16,904 Speaker 1: is true, our dad did nothing. You're all making up stories. 390 00:17:17,104 --> 00:17:19,744 Speaker 1: There's photos of Delilah and Jesse, the twins going in 391 00:17:19,784 --> 00:17:22,664 Speaker 1: to visit him in prison accompanied by his mother and 392 00:17:22,704 --> 00:17:24,904 Speaker 1: then like the paparazzi chasing them down the street to 393 00:17:24,904 --> 00:17:27,744 Speaker 1: get photos like there's this horrific fall out over the 394 00:17:27,784 --> 00:17:31,784 Speaker 1: seven kids who really just believe that this is all 395 00:17:31,904 --> 00:17:32,904 Speaker 1: lie about their dad. 396 00:17:33,304 --> 00:17:37,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it's absolutely horrific on like every end 397 00:17:37,464 --> 00:17:39,944 Speaker 2: of this yes, like there's not one place that makes 398 00:17:39,944 --> 00:17:42,584 Speaker 2: sense really, But I feel like every week we have 399 00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:44,984 Speaker 2: an update from this case, and I feel like we're 400 00:17:45,024 --> 00:17:47,544 Speaker 2: just going to keep updating it until that may trial. 401 00:17:48,144 --> 00:17:50,584 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 402 00:17:51,064 --> 00:17:53,584 Speaker 2: If you're listening on a podcast app, which we definitely 403 00:17:53,624 --> 00:17:56,584 Speaker 2: know you are, if you please can tap that little 404 00:17:56,744 --> 00:17:59,504 Speaker 2: five star button and give us a little review. 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