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Speaker 3: From Mamma Mia.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm

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Speaker 2: Laura Brodneck and I'm Taylor Strano and Taylor, you were

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Speaker 2: here for a very important show. I have been waiting

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Speaker 2: all year to do this particular episode because on today's

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Speaker 2: show we are talking about the very best TV shows

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Speaker 3: Because we're halfway through the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, happy into financial year, which.

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Speaker 2: Is terrifying, Like I'm pushing that thought aside, and I'm

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Speaker 2: on how many good shows we've had come out this year.

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Speaker 1: This has been a very tall order to fulfill. So

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Speaker 1: I hope that I do the Spiller's justice. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you and I Laura watch a lot of TV.

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Speaker 1: We rewatch a lot of comfort TV, so I had

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Speaker 1: that's been a new release this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you touch on a good point, because first

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Speaker 2: we're going to do rules, because what is the pop

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Speaker 2: So the criteria for this year that we were looking

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Speaker 2: TV shows that have premiered their first season this year,

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Speaker 2: there's a few others we wanted to mention.

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Speaker 1: Yes, honorable mentions, because what is a roundup of the

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Speaker 1: silly to not talk about The White Lotus. Season three

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Speaker 1: You piqued my free interests. Okay. Power Moves is a

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Speaker 3: I just know that he was a basketball player.

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Speaker 1: you're into, that's totally fine. Laura is not gonna watch it,

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Speaker 3: Okay, look, I'm I'm not against it. I why I

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I feel about a lot of other shows you.

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Speaker 1: I think you're so right. This stirred up so many

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Speaker 4: I'm Stanley Tucci, and I believe that the best way

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Speaker 1: Now, I hope that you'll forgive me because this technically

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Speaker 1: So Tucci in Italy not to be confused with Stanley

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Speaker 1: Tucci searching for Italy, completely different shows. They were on

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Speaker 1: should watch because it came out this year. Absolutely, that's

434
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Speaker 1: all I want from that mean rape.

435
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Speaker 2: I just want him to go through Italy, and I

436
00:19:00,304 --> 00:19:02,384
Speaker 2: want him to like roll up his shirt sleeves and

437
00:19:02,424 --> 00:19:05,144
Speaker 2: show off his little buff tad now. And I want

438
00:19:05,224 --> 00:19:07,664
Speaker 2: him to explain to me the different flavors of wine

439
00:19:07,704 --> 00:19:10,024
Speaker 2: and the cheese, and why should have a particular sandwich,

440
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Speaker 2: why actually get wine from particular places? All I want

441
00:19:12,504 --> 00:19:15,024
Speaker 2: from that man, well, that's all you get from exactly that. Well,

442
00:19:15,024 --> 00:19:16,384
Speaker 2: that and for him to be in the devil wors

443
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Speaker 2: pritus equal. There's two things I want from that man,

444
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Speaker 2: and he's delivered one well interestingly.

445
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Speaker 1: So the reason that I knew about this show before

446
00:19:22,904 --> 00:19:25,544
Speaker 1: any marketing kick me is because he talked about it

447
00:19:25,664 --> 00:19:28,424
Speaker 1: literally NonStop, I reckon every chapter. There was a mention

448
00:19:28,504 --> 00:19:30,784
Speaker 1: of making this show in his latest book, What I

449
00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:33,544
Speaker 1: Ate In One Year. Yeah, But in his memoir that

450
00:19:33,664 --> 00:19:35,784
Speaker 1: came out a couple of years ago, he spoke so

451
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Speaker 1: fondly of working with Meryl Streep and like they have

452
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Speaker 1: this beautiful relationship. And so I'm like, if he's not

453
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Speaker 1: in the Devils prior to with Meryl Streep, yeah, I

454
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Speaker 1: will be devastated.

455
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Speaker 2: Well, he's married to Emily Blunt's sister, as well. Oh,

456
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Speaker 2: yes they met has become a deaf worst protect which

457
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Speaker 2: if you.

458
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Speaker 3: Don't know the law buckling, Yeah, exactly.

459
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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Well he ear Emily Bond DeVos prior and she's like,

461
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Speaker 2: you love, my sister introduced them and now they're married

462
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Speaker 2: with children.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he speaks so lovingly of his wife's solicity.

464
00:20:00,664 --> 00:20:03,744
Speaker 1: Just that whole family dynamic is fantastic. But yes, Tucci

465
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Speaker 1: in Italy, it does what it says in the box.

466
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Speaker 1: It is a box worth opening. I think it's like

467
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Speaker 1: six episodes in Disney Pluss.

468
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, so lovely. Well, I'm going to keep

469
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Speaker 2: us on Disney Plus. But take us to a very

470
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Speaker 2: different section, okay, which is the TV show Dying for Sex.

471
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Speaker 1: Okay, this TV show, I wonder what it's about.

472
00:20:20,024 --> 00:20:23,624
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well Bucklin because it doesn't exactly do

473
00:20:23,664 --> 00:20:25,384
Speaker 2: what it says in the teen in a way. So

474
00:20:25,624 --> 00:20:29,024
Speaker 2: this show has completely stayed with me. And it's based

475
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Speaker 2: on a true story. So it's based on the story

476
00:20:30,824 --> 00:20:34,064
Speaker 2: of Molly Kochran, who was an American podcaster. She lived

477
00:20:34,064 --> 00:20:37,584
Speaker 2: in la and after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer,

478
00:20:38,064 --> 00:20:40,784
Speaker 2: she decided to blow up her life. She separated from

479
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Speaker 2: her husband, and she wanted this kind of odyssey to

480
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Speaker 2: discover what she wanted from sex, from herself, from partners,

481
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Speaker 2: and she documented it all this podcast and Michelle Williams

482
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Speaker 2: plays her in the TV show and she is incredible. Like,

483
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Speaker 2: I know this is a TV show, but also Michelle

484
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Speaker 2: Williams is due her It's time Oscar because she's one

485
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Speaker 2: of those actresses who's been so incredible and has been

486
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Speaker 2: nominated for an Oscar so many times. And it gets

487
00:21:05,624 --> 00:21:07,424
Speaker 2: that point where they'll just give it to her for something,

488
00:21:07,544 --> 00:21:09,864
Speaker 2: just for her career. Yeah, And I was like, I know,

489
00:21:09,984 --> 00:21:11,864
Speaker 2: like this is breaking the rules, but just give her

490
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Speaker 2: the Oscar for dying for sex because it is the

491
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Speaker 2: performance of her career.

492
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Speaker 1: Wow.

493
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Speaker 2: She's so incredible, so funny, so heartbreaking. And Jenny Slate

494
00:21:20,464 --> 00:21:22,744
Speaker 2: plays her best friend based on the real woman in

495
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Speaker 2: the show. And as much as it's a show about

496
00:21:25,544 --> 00:21:29,824
Speaker 2: Michelle Williams's character signing out, she has terminal cancer, leaving

497
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Speaker 2: her husband who's perfectly lovely, but also going on this

498
00:21:32,384 --> 00:21:36,624
Speaker 2: like wild sex odyssey to discover things about herself, mending

499
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Speaker 2: her relationship with her a strange mother. It's really about

500
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Speaker 2: these two best friends and the way that Jenny Slat's

501
00:21:42,584 --> 00:21:45,224
Speaker 2: character is there for her. Like there's such a heartbreaking

502
00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:48,344
Speaker 2: scene when Michell Wiams's character is like close to dying

503
00:21:48,384 --> 00:21:51,784
Speaker 2: and Jenny Slats's character is supporting her through it all,

504
00:21:51,824 --> 00:21:53,784
Speaker 2: and they say to her like should take the breathing tubout,

505
00:21:53,824 --> 00:21:56,504
Speaker 2: but she could die, and she's just like I don't know,

506
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Speaker 2: Like I haven't slept in days, I haven't showered in weeks.

507
00:21:59,264 --> 00:22:01,304
Speaker 2: I'm watching my best friend die. I'm wearing toilet paper

508
00:22:01,344 --> 00:22:03,984
Speaker 2: for underwear, and you want me to decide what to do.

509
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Speaker 2: And so you have those moments, but you're also funny

510
00:22:06,504 --> 00:22:08,944
Speaker 2: moments where she's like re enacting movie scenes in the

511
00:22:09,024 --> 00:22:11,504
Speaker 2: hotel room and all. So you have all these like

512
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Speaker 2: crazy sex scenes as she discovered what she likes. And

513
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Speaker 2: I also think like death is so uncomfortable, Like I

514
00:22:17,384 --> 00:22:19,304
Speaker 2: can't stand TV shows and movies that death. I find

515
00:22:19,344 --> 00:22:21,224
Speaker 2: it way too confronting. I would just love to pretend

516
00:22:21,264 --> 00:22:24,504
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen, but the show makes you confront it

517
00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:27,104
Speaker 2: in such an interesting way. Like there's a scene where

518
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Speaker 2: one are the nurses who's looking after it comes in

519
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Speaker 2: and she gives this speech that's really stayed with me,

520
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Speaker 2: where she talks about the fact like your body knows

521
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Speaker 2: how to live, but your body knows how to die.

522
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Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? Like your body She's like, you don't

523
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Speaker 2: have to worry. When she goes into pallliade of care,

524
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Speaker 2: she youn have to worry. Your body knows how to die.

525
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Speaker 2: It's going to do this, and then it's going to

526
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Speaker 2: do this, and it's going to do this, and then

527
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Speaker 2: you're going to go into a euphoria and you're gonna

528
00:22:47,424 --> 00:22:50,104
Speaker 2: feel so comfortable because your body is preparing and like

529
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Speaker 2: you're watching like Michelle Williams react to that, but I'm

530
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Speaker 2: also just watching it as if you were being like,

531
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Speaker 2: holy hell, that's amazing, so like dying for sex so good,

532
00:22:58,984 --> 00:23:02,024
Speaker 2: Like everyone should watch it, like you'll sob but it's

533
00:23:02,104 --> 00:23:02,984
Speaker 2: so worth it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really interesting point about how we

535
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Speaker 1: approach death in pop culture and television just in our

536
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Speaker 1: everyday lives well, because like, yeah, sure it's inevitable, but

537
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Speaker 1: whenever people try to portray that in television and film,

538
00:23:15,424 --> 00:23:17,784
Speaker 1: it usually so often misses the mark where they go

539
00:23:17,904 --> 00:23:19,984
Speaker 1: too hard with the hand and the comedy or they

540
00:23:20,024 --> 00:23:22,864
Speaker 1: go a too sincere and this feels like it strikes

541
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Speaker 1: a really nice balance.

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Speaker 2: Between the two exactly, and the fact that it's also

543
00:23:26,464 --> 00:23:28,424
Speaker 2: based on a true story, and like you should definitely

544
00:23:28,464 --> 00:23:30,864
Speaker 2: like watch the show and then listen to the podcast because.

545
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Speaker 3: They really go together very well.

546
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm back on my sport beer.

547
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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh wow, that another sports show came out.

548
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Speaker 1: This year, Laura. It's very very rare that I get

549
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Speaker 1: to come on this podcast. So when I do, I

550
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Speaker 1: will abuse the power. Okay, you've seen this though, and

551
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you have a take on it. It's

552
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Speaker 1: from Netflix. It's running point.

553
00:23:48,904 --> 00:23:52,664
Speaker 2: I work in a family business, the greatest basketball franchise.

554
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Speaker 4: In the history of the game, the Los Angeles Weaves,

555
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Speaker 4: and this is the story of the fucked up family

556
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Speaker 4: that runs me. I'm making you the president of the Waves.

557
00:24:05,304 --> 00:24:08,264
Speaker 4: When I was a little girl, Daddy never believed in me,

558
00:24:09,024 --> 00:24:10,344
Speaker 4: and I started to doubt myself.

559
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Speaker 1: I need you to stop because I don't care about

560
00:24:11,944 --> 00:24:15,144
Speaker 1: any of that shit. You were the president of the

561
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Speaker 1: Wais this shocking? Weir on behalf of all women don't

562
00:24:17,784 --> 00:24:19,544
Speaker 1: ever make a mistake, and it looks bad for all

563
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Speaker 1: of us.

564
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Speaker 4: We're a family, sys we got your back, no matter

565
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Speaker 4: what people say. What are they saying, Just the fact

566
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Speaker 4: that you're a NEPO baby and you don't know what

567
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Speaker 4: you're doing, but you're old, so it's like you're kind

568
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Speaker 4: of you're like a nepo chrome. Oh my god, don't

569
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Speaker 4: go on red unless you want to kill yourself.

570
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Speaker 1: You are the smartest lord, and I know, I know

571
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Speaker 1: that's not a high bar.

572
00:24:39,064 --> 00:24:40,264
Speaker 4: Now, we're a family brand.

573
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Speaker 1: You ness and Sandy don't represent our values.

574
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's a couple of pictures of my dad

575
00:24:45,224 --> 00:24:47,024
Speaker 2: with Saddam Musan, but we are good people.

576
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Speaker 3: Hereously, when I die, you suck.

577
00:24:49,984 --> 00:24:51,184
Speaker 4: I want to know what you're going to do to

578
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Speaker 4: stop the suck.

579
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Speaker 2: I know the record doesn't show it, but this is

580
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Speaker 2: a winning loster and I have a team to run.

581
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Speaker 1: So if you'll excuse me, wait, this is my office.

582
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Speaker 1: You get out.

583
00:25:00,984 --> 00:25:02,384
Speaker 3: Yeah. I really liked Wanting Point.

584
00:25:02,464 --> 00:25:05,264
Speaker 2: I understand the criticism. Mark Okay, guys, I get it.

585
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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you don't know a Running Point Netflix

586
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Speaker 1: comedy series. It was created by Mindy Kayley, who we love.

587
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Speaker 1: It stars Kate Hudson as Ela Gordon, who unexpectedly like

588
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Speaker 1: becomes the president of the Los Angeles Waves, which is

589
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Speaker 1: a basketball team in My Basketball Villain error. But basically

590
00:25:22,984 --> 00:25:25,384
Speaker 1: she becomes the president. She's got a couple of brothers

591
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Speaker 1: who also work at the family company, and they're all

592
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Speaker 1: kind of annoyed that she's the president. She was the

593
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Speaker 1: party girl, she was the black sheep, a little bit

594
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Speaker 1: of the family, and now she's sort of trumped them

595
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Speaker 1: all into this high ranking role and they're conspiring against her.

596
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Speaker 1: Nobody thinks she can do this job. She's out to

597
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Speaker 1: prove them all wrong. Her best friend slash assistant is

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Speaker 1: played by Brenda Song, which I know we've already talked

599
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Speaker 1: about this, but like, how nice is it to see

600
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Speaker 1: Brenda's song back on thres.

601
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Speaker 2: That is the best part of that show for being Like,

602
00:25:50,904 --> 00:25:53,104
Speaker 2: there's other bits I liked, but it is the best

603
00:25:53,184 --> 00:25:56,264
Speaker 2: role that's been written for Brenda, and she just snails.

604
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Speaker 2: And I hope she gets all the award nominations for

605
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Speaker 2: that role in the comedy genre.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like pushing for her and Kieran Colkin. I'm

607
00:26:03,584 --> 00:26:06,064
Speaker 1: pushing for her and Macaulay Culkin, But like, I would

608
00:26:06,104 --> 00:26:08,144
Speaker 1: also be okay if it was Kieran Coulkin to like

609
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Speaker 1: play a couple in The White Lotus season.

610
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Speaker 3: Four that needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she needs to be on the white Lotus. I

612
00:26:13,904 --> 00:26:16,344
Speaker 1: like this show because, like we said, Brenda Song's great,

613
00:26:16,424 --> 00:26:19,424
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson's good. But I also love that there's like

614
00:26:19,464 --> 00:26:22,824
Speaker 1: a bunch of sort of subplots going on while the

615
00:26:22,824 --> 00:26:25,464
Speaker 1: main thing is like her trying to keep the company,

616
00:26:25,464 --> 00:26:28,744
Speaker 1: the family business, which is a bloody basketball franchise, while

617
00:26:28,744 --> 00:26:30,704
Speaker 1: she's trying to keep it all afloat, like there's a

618
00:26:30,744 --> 00:26:34,144
Speaker 1: secret extra brother nobody knows about, hey, And I love

619
00:26:34,184 --> 00:26:36,064
Speaker 1: that the brothers that we do know about it are

620
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Speaker 1: all very flawed, bad individuals in their own ways. What

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Speaker 1: did you think, because, like you said, there was a

622
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Speaker 1: lot of criticism when this came.

623
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Speaker 2: It was I think there was just so much hype

624
00:26:44,504 --> 00:26:47,384
Speaker 2: for it. One is that Mindy Kaling just makes shows

625
00:26:47,384 --> 00:26:50,264
Speaker 2: that people feel so strongly about. From the MINDI Project

626
00:26:50,344 --> 00:26:52,664
Speaker 2: and all these other TV projects she's done. It was

627
00:26:52,704 --> 00:26:55,304
Speaker 2: the first time Kate Hudson had been in a TV

628
00:26:55,384 --> 00:26:57,904
Speaker 2: show and like played a role like this, and so

629
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Speaker 2: the height from it was huge. Netflix really put it

630
00:27:00,864 --> 00:27:03,104
Speaker 2: up as their big comedy of the year, and I

631
00:27:03,184 --> 00:27:04,744
Speaker 2: really loved it. But I feel like it did take

632
00:27:04,784 --> 00:27:07,144
Speaker 2: a few episodes to find its feet, and I think

633
00:27:07,144 --> 00:27:09,664
Speaker 2: it's because the first episode is just like it's like

634
00:27:09,904 --> 00:27:14,584
Speaker 2: plot plot plot much almost. Yeah, it kind of felt

635
00:27:14,584 --> 00:27:16,824
Speaker 2: like lazy storytelling, but I almost think they just wanted

636
00:27:16,824 --> 00:27:18,864
Speaker 2: to pull you into the world really quickly. But a

637
00:27:18,864 --> 00:27:20,264
Speaker 2: lot of people, I know, I just watched the first

638
00:27:20,264 --> 00:27:22,384
Speaker 2: episode and turned off, which I've been yelling at people

639
00:27:22,384 --> 00:27:25,144
Speaker 2: about because it's like, this is Isla Gordon, she does this,

640
00:27:25,224 --> 00:27:26,784
Speaker 2: and this is her brother and he does this, and

641
00:27:26,824 --> 00:27:27,504
Speaker 2: this is what their dad.

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Speaker 3: I hate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know people probably even don't have an

644
00:27:30,984 --> 00:27:32,544
Speaker 1: opinion of this will feel very strongly.

645
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

646
00:27:33,264 --> 00:27:36,264
Speaker 1: I hate when shows like stop freeze frame and then

647
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Speaker 1: like scribble on the scroll.

648
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Speaker 3: And that's what they do through the fall.

649
00:27:38,904 --> 00:27:40,824
Speaker 1: They do this episode. They do that so much because

650
00:27:40,824 --> 00:27:43,624
Speaker 1: there's like so much to establish the first But I agree,

651
00:27:43,664 --> 00:27:46,064
Speaker 1: like you have to persevere through the first episode and

652
00:27:46,104 --> 00:27:47,984
Speaker 1: then it ends and it's really like it's not like

653
00:27:48,024 --> 00:27:50,504
Speaker 1: a huge twist, but it's an interesting twist.

654
00:27:50,184 --> 00:27:51,944
Speaker 2: It is, And I thought, like, especially it's one on

655
00:27:51,984 --> 00:27:53,584
Speaker 2: like it had a lot of heart as well as

656
00:27:53,624 --> 00:27:56,384
Speaker 2: being like quite funny, and Kate Hudson just knows how

657
00:27:56,424 --> 00:27:58,264
Speaker 2: to carry something that she can carry a movie, she

658
00:27:58,264 --> 00:28:00,824
Speaker 2: can carry a TV show. I'm really excited it's coming

659
00:28:00,864 --> 00:28:03,304
Speaker 2: back for a second season. Kate Hudson's never played a

660
00:28:03,384 --> 00:28:05,864
Speaker 2: character twice because she doesn't do sequels. This is the

661
00:28:05,864 --> 00:28:07,784
Speaker 2: first time she gets to revisit a character. And I

662
00:28:07,784 --> 00:28:11,064
Speaker 2: find that with Mindy Kayling's writing, it is per effect always.

663
00:28:11,104 --> 00:28:13,064
Speaker 2: I'm such a fan girl, But I also find that

664
00:28:13,184 --> 00:28:16,144
Speaker 2: as shows go along, she only gets better. So I

665
00:28:16,184 --> 00:28:18,664
Speaker 2: for like, season two, it's gonna be where it's at. Yeah,

666
00:28:18,704 --> 00:28:22,264
Speaker 2: it'll hit it stride, I hope. Okay, the other TV show.

667
00:28:22,264 --> 00:28:23,664
Speaker 2: And I've been obsessed with this and I feel like

668
00:28:23,704 --> 00:28:25,504
Speaker 2: the longer it goes on, more people have been too,

669
00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:28,504
Speaker 2: which is the studio on Apple TV. Plus you ever

670
00:28:28,544 --> 00:28:30,824
Speaker 2: heard so No, but I've heard so much about that.

671
00:28:30,904 --> 00:28:33,704
Speaker 2: I think you'd really like. I love seth Rogen. Yes, well,

672
00:28:33,744 --> 00:28:35,584
Speaker 2: then you're gonna love this because he stars in it

673
00:28:35,624 --> 00:28:38,864
Speaker 2: and he created He was involved in that big Sony

674
00:28:38,904 --> 00:28:41,704
Speaker 2: email leak many many years ago, which if you're not

675
00:28:41,744 --> 00:28:44,664
Speaker 2: a cross guys, don't worry. We did a whole episode

676
00:28:44,664 --> 00:28:49,384
Speaker 2: on it. It's my favorite celebrity Hollywood scandal really when well,

677
00:28:49,384 --> 00:28:51,424
Speaker 2: there's so many, but this is so the fact that

678
00:28:51,544 --> 00:28:54,584
Speaker 2: all of the emails sent by a list stars and

679
00:28:54,704 --> 00:28:58,144
Speaker 2: studio heads were all made public, and you saw what

680
00:28:58,384 --> 00:29:02,424
Speaker 2: huge celebrities like Channing Tatum and Seth Rogan stuff were saying,

681
00:29:02,464 --> 00:29:05,264
Speaker 2: but also what studio heads were saying about Angelina and

682
00:29:05,304 --> 00:29:07,584
Speaker 2: Jolly behind her back. Like I know it was wrapped

683
00:29:07,664 --> 00:29:11,704
Speaker 2: up in terrorism, that's really bad, but the juicy Hollywood

684
00:29:11,704 --> 00:29:16,224
Speaker 2: gossip that was leaked every day for a month paralleled.

685
00:29:16,424 --> 00:29:19,024
Speaker 2: So Seth Rogen, because his movie at the time, was

686
00:29:19,064 --> 00:29:21,464
Speaker 2: involved in the Studio League and so he kind of

687
00:29:21,504 --> 00:29:23,064
Speaker 2: looked at all of that and use that to make

688
00:29:23,104 --> 00:29:25,664
Speaker 2: the Studio. So The Studio is kind of like a

689
00:29:25,704 --> 00:29:29,744
Speaker 2: satirical comedy, which is about Seth Rogan who gets made

690
00:29:29,824 --> 00:29:32,904
Speaker 2: the head of this very embattled Hollywood studio and he's

691
00:29:32,984 --> 00:29:35,584
Speaker 2: has to turn it around. And the cast is incredible.

692
00:29:35,584 --> 00:29:39,544
Speaker 2: It's Catherine O'Hara, like Baron Holtz, Chase Sue Wonders, Catherine Hahn,

693
00:29:39,904 --> 00:29:42,104
Speaker 2: They're all incredible, and it's got all these like wild

694
00:29:42,184 --> 00:29:45,704
Speaker 2: stories about like the inner workings of this Hollywood studio.

695
00:29:45,904 --> 00:29:48,064
Speaker 2: But what's really great is they have all these big

696
00:29:48,104 --> 00:29:53,624
Speaker 2: stars come in and play caricatures of themsel. Yeah, it

697
00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,104
Speaker 2: works so well. It's kind of like he's on a

698
00:29:55,144 --> 00:29:57,224
Speaker 2: few movies where he has people play themselves. It's always

699
00:29:57,224 --> 00:29:59,344
Speaker 2: works so well. But like Olivia Wilde comes in and

700
00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:01,664
Speaker 2: plays like a caricature of myself and she's so good.

701
00:30:01,744 --> 00:30:03,624
Speaker 2: Zach Efron does it, He's really funny.

702
00:30:03,704 --> 00:30:04,144
Speaker 1: I love this.

703
00:30:04,264 --> 00:30:06,904
Speaker 2: Jean Smart does it, Charlie's Throne. I think my favorite

704
00:30:06,904 --> 00:30:10,144
Speaker 2: one though, was Muttin's called Sasey playing himself.

705
00:30:09,784 --> 00:30:11,584
Speaker 1: Away because he just like what would get it?

706
00:30:11,864 --> 00:30:13,944
Speaker 3: I know, like as if he would do that, and

707
00:30:13,944 --> 00:30:14,824
Speaker 3: he's so good.

708
00:30:14,944 --> 00:30:17,824
Speaker 2: Loki kind of a bastard, right, yeah, but he comes

709
00:30:17,824 --> 00:30:20,464
Speaker 2: in and just plays like this wild caricature of himself,

710
00:30:20,504 --> 00:30:22,544
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's actually kind of what he's like,

711
00:30:22,664 --> 00:30:24,504
Speaker 2: but like that is just such a wild ride. So

712
00:30:24,504 --> 00:30:27,064
Speaker 2: it's already been renewed for a second season, and you

713
00:30:27,104 --> 00:30:29,424
Speaker 2: don't have to be super interested like the inner workings

714
00:30:29,464 --> 00:30:31,784
Speaker 2: of Hollywood to watch it. You can just watch it

715
00:30:31,824 --> 00:30:33,544
Speaker 2: as a comedy. It doesn't even matter if you don't

716
00:30:33,584 --> 00:30:36,224
Speaker 2: know who half these people are who are playing themselves,

717
00:30:36,344 --> 00:30:39,024
Speaker 2: and some of the best people are playing fictionalized characters.

718
00:30:39,064 --> 00:30:40,664
Speaker 3: So love it. Yeah, so good.

719
00:30:40,864 --> 00:30:42,704
Speaker 2: The other one I want to mention just to Finish

720
00:30:42,744 --> 00:30:44,344
Speaker 2: Us Off is a show that came out this year

721
00:30:44,384 --> 00:30:47,624
Speaker 2: called The Last Anniversary that came out on Binge. So

722
00:30:47,784 --> 00:30:50,744
Speaker 2: it's based on a Leanne Moriarty novel and there's so

723
00:30:50,744 --> 00:30:52,784
Speaker 2: many reasons to love it. I think, like, usually when

724
00:30:52,784 --> 00:30:54,504
Speaker 2: a TV show comes out that's based on a book,

725
00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:56,464
Speaker 2: I've always read the book first because I'm such a

726
00:30:56,464 --> 00:30:59,544
Speaker 2: big reader. But this is the one Leanne Moriarty book

727
00:30:59,544 --> 00:31:02,184
Speaker 2: I hadn't read, so I got to experience the unfolding

728
00:31:02,224 --> 00:31:05,824
Speaker 2: of this cheastory for the first time. So Teresa Palmer

729
00:31:05,904 --> 00:31:08,184
Speaker 2: is the lead, and she plays this woman called Sophie.

730
00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,504
Speaker 2: And this is where things got a bit tense when

731
00:31:10,504 --> 00:31:12,944
Speaker 2: I was at the premiere watching it because watching it

732
00:31:12,944 --> 00:31:16,464
Speaker 2: in this beautiful theater. And Sophie is a woman living

733
00:31:16,464 --> 00:31:19,904
Speaker 2: in Sydney who writes for a women's media publication. She's

734
00:31:19,944 --> 00:31:22,104
Speaker 2: in her late thirties. She's going on a series of

735
00:31:22,224 --> 00:31:26,024
Speaker 2: bad dates, and when she's ever like stressed out about life,

736
00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:29,984
Speaker 2: love or anything, she gets this incredible, like intense flush

737
00:31:30,024 --> 00:31:31,304
Speaker 2: through her neck and cheeks.

738
00:31:31,784 --> 00:31:33,184
Speaker 1: How you oh No.

739
00:31:33,944 --> 00:31:36,384
Speaker 3: I'm like I was watching it and I literally.

740
00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:38,944
Speaker 1: Like, did you know this? When you interviewed Teresa Palmel.

741
00:31:38,904 --> 00:31:41,384
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I okay, yeah, I interviewed her after the

742
00:31:41,424 --> 00:31:43,824
Speaker 2: premiere and I so, in case you don't know me,

743
00:31:43,904 --> 00:31:47,824
Speaker 2: that's me, Like that's me to a tea, including the

744
00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:50,944
Speaker 2: intense flush, the same age, and even when she was

745
00:31:50,984 --> 00:31:52,504
Speaker 2: like she's talking to her ed about stories and she

746
00:31:52,584 --> 00:31:53,984
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, just do this and do that,

747
00:31:54,024 --> 00:31:55,824
Speaker 2: and like just the way she talks about working in

748
00:31:55,904 --> 00:31:58,824
Speaker 2: the women's media, I'm like, this is the bad dates everything.

749
00:31:58,864 --> 00:32:00,304
Speaker 3: Like it's just so I feel.

750
00:32:00,144 --> 00:32:03,704
Speaker 2: Like attacked and I also feel seen. Yeah, So that's

751
00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:05,464
Speaker 2: the only part that Sophie and I are the same person.

752
00:32:05,464 --> 00:32:08,784
Speaker 2: Because after that, this man that she had dated years

753
00:32:08,824 --> 00:32:10,304
Speaker 2: and years and years ago, who's a bit of a jerk,

754
00:32:10,864 --> 00:32:14,304
Speaker 2: lets her know that his grandmother has passed away and

755
00:32:14,424 --> 00:32:17,944
Speaker 2: left Sophie, his ex girlfriend of many years, her house

756
00:32:18,064 --> 00:32:20,224
Speaker 2: on this tiny little island off the coast of norw

757
00:32:20,264 --> 00:32:23,504
Speaker 2: South Wales called Scribly Gum Island, and all the family

758
00:32:23,544 --> 00:32:26,264
Speaker 2: members live there and there's a mystery attached to the island.

759
00:32:26,304 --> 00:32:28,224
Speaker 2: So this is where it's like a love story of

760
00:32:28,304 --> 00:32:31,184
Speaker 2: Sophie like moving to the island and living in this

761
00:32:31,504 --> 00:32:33,504
Speaker 2: house and trying to discover why it was left to

762
00:32:33,544 --> 00:32:35,904
Speaker 2: her and one of the reasons she decides to go

763
00:32:36,064 --> 00:32:37,624
Speaker 2: is At the end of the letter, it says, I

764
00:32:37,664 --> 00:32:39,744
Speaker 2: think you'll find love here. There's a man that you

765
00:32:39,744 --> 00:32:41,944
Speaker 2: should meet. So she goes there and she meets all

766
00:32:41,944 --> 00:32:43,864
Speaker 2: these different men, and every time she meets a man,

767
00:32:44,064 --> 00:32:46,384
Speaker 2: including a man who she used to date who was

768
00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:48,744
Speaker 2: married to her ex boyfriend's cousin.

769
00:32:48,784 --> 00:32:50,784
Speaker 3: It's the whole thing. Oh, it's a whole living on

770
00:32:50,824 --> 00:32:51,304
Speaker 3: the island.

771
00:32:51,384 --> 00:32:53,464
Speaker 2: Yeah, So as much as it's about Sophie like meeting

772
00:32:53,464 --> 00:32:55,704
Speaker 2: all these different men, some of them are great, some

773
00:32:55,744 --> 00:32:57,584
Speaker 2: of them she has wild sex with, some of them

774
00:32:57,624 --> 00:33:01,984
Speaker 2: are awful. It's like also this mystery because the island

775
00:33:02,064 --> 00:33:05,344
Speaker 2: Scribbly Gum is known for this mystery where a couple

776
00:33:05,384 --> 00:33:07,424
Speaker 2: moved to the island and then they disappeared and a

777
00:33:07,464 --> 00:33:10,304
Speaker 2: baby was left and the baby is like a now

778
00:33:10,464 --> 00:33:13,384
Speaker 2: a grown up woman living on the island. So then Sophie,

779
00:33:13,384 --> 00:33:16,104
Speaker 2: who's a journalist, goes back and tries to like solve

780
00:33:16,144 --> 00:33:16,704
Speaker 2: the mystery.

781
00:33:17,504 --> 00:33:19,624
Speaker 3: I'm hold it's yeah, I just really loved it.

782
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:20,824
Speaker 2: I found out such as so I went to the

783
00:33:20,824 --> 00:33:22,544
Speaker 2: premiere and I watched it and I interviewed Trees of

784
00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:24,664
Speaker 2: Palmer and that was amazing. But then every week, and

785
00:33:24,704 --> 00:33:25,904
Speaker 2: I got a lot of TV to watch, so I

786
00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:27,664
Speaker 2: don't watch stuff unless I have to. But then every

787
00:33:27,704 --> 00:33:29,784
Speaker 2: week I turned on Binge to watch the next episode

788
00:33:29,784 --> 00:33:31,944
Speaker 2: because I loved the weekly drop, and I just found

789
00:33:31,984 --> 00:33:34,304
Speaker 2: like a personal It's got all these incredible, like female

790
00:33:34,384 --> 00:33:37,104
Speaker 2: characters like Daniel McDonald's in it as well, But it's

791
00:33:37,144 --> 00:33:39,904
Speaker 2: really about all these women in this unconventional family living

792
00:33:39,944 --> 00:33:43,664
Speaker 2: on this island, solving the mystery, the love story. But

793
00:33:43,664 --> 00:33:45,104
Speaker 2: I also just love when they're just like cooking in

794
00:33:45,144 --> 00:33:47,184
Speaker 2: the kitchen and making cakes and drinking wine. I know,

795
00:33:47,304 --> 00:33:49,384
Speaker 2: I just really loved it, Like I know keeps people

796
00:33:49,384 --> 00:33:50,704
Speaker 2: have watched it and loved it, but I just feel

797
00:33:50,704 --> 00:33:52,784
Speaker 2: like more people need to watch it.

798
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:53,384
Speaker 3: I'm sold.

799
00:33:53,584 --> 00:33:55,064
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you would really love it. Don't if

800
00:33:55,064 --> 00:33:57,064
Speaker 2: you haven't read the book, don't google the ending. Okay,

801
00:33:57,424 --> 00:33:59,824
Speaker 2: when you find out the mystery of the baby and

802
00:33:59,864 --> 00:34:02,144
Speaker 2: how she was left there and how it's like intertwined

803
00:34:02,144 --> 00:34:03,944
Speaker 2: with the family, you'll be like, wow, I have.

804
00:34:03,864 --> 00:34:05,984
Speaker 1: So many like peries running through my head, having not

805
00:34:06,064 --> 00:34:08,664
Speaker 1: watched or know any of the characters' names. Kayla, bring

806
00:34:08,744 --> 00:34:10,344
Speaker 1: us home one more very quick.

807
00:34:10,504 --> 00:34:11,224
Speaker 3: Okay, we've done it.

808
00:34:11,224 --> 00:34:13,704
Speaker 2: Recently, but in case anyone hasn't watched it adults on

809
00:34:13,784 --> 00:34:17,064
Speaker 2: Disney Plus. Yes, and I'm not saying this, guys, one

810
00:34:17,104 --> 00:34:20,664
Speaker 2: of the funniest shows I have ever seen, because it's

811
00:34:20,704 --> 00:34:22,624
Speaker 2: so rare that I would sit in my apartment alone

812
00:34:22,624 --> 00:34:25,744
Speaker 2: and watch a TV show and be hysterically laughing out loud.

813
00:34:26,024 --> 00:34:28,544
Speaker 2: And when Emily Vernerm and I did this on Weekend Watch.

814
00:34:28,664 --> 00:34:30,624
Speaker 2: We don't look at any other reviews first, so we

815
00:34:30,664 --> 00:34:33,424
Speaker 2: watch a show, we give our honest review, and usually

816
00:34:33,504 --> 00:34:36,584
Speaker 2: we're like fairly with other people. This was like quite

817
00:34:36,624 --> 00:34:38,864
Speaker 2: badly reviewed, and really I would not normally say this

818
00:34:38,904 --> 00:34:41,344
Speaker 2: about my colleagues, but they're wrong, and I just don't

819
00:34:41,384 --> 00:34:43,384
Speaker 2: think they were watching it. So it's about a group

820
00:34:43,464 --> 00:34:45,904
Speaker 2: of four twenty somethings who were living in New York,

821
00:34:46,224 --> 00:34:47,904
Speaker 2: like you know, out in the world for the first

822
00:34:47,944 --> 00:34:50,984
Speaker 2: time in a sharehouse together and it just tracks their life.

823
00:34:51,024 --> 00:34:52,104
Speaker 3: There's eight episodes.

824
00:34:52,504 --> 00:34:54,504
Speaker 2: They should have been longer. They're like twenty two minutes.

825
00:34:54,904 --> 00:34:57,384
Speaker 2: That wasn't enough for me. I needed more. Like Charlie

826
00:34:57,424 --> 00:35:00,024
Speaker 2: Cox is in it, He's so funny. Julia Fox does

827
00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:03,824
Speaker 2: is an episode playing herself, fantastic, so good. There's so

828
00:35:03,824 --> 00:35:06,304
Speaker 2: many laugh out loud moments, so many kind of like

829
00:35:06,584 --> 00:35:09,464
Speaker 2: wild moments, Like it starts with a character masturbating on

830
00:35:09,504 --> 00:35:11,304
Speaker 2: a train because of me doing it. She's trying to

831
00:35:11,304 --> 00:35:14,344
Speaker 2: stand up for women's rights and like you know, and

832
00:35:14,424 --> 00:35:17,144
Speaker 2: different quality and stuff. But it is just really funny.

833
00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:20,344
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like, don't trust the reviews unless

834
00:35:20,344 --> 00:35:24,984
Speaker 2: it's my Yeah, don't trust all the reviews. But Adults

835
00:35:25,184 --> 00:35:27,824
Speaker 2: is on Disney Plus right now. It's eight episodes or

836
00:35:27,984 --> 00:35:31,624
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes each. It just felt so fresh and funny,

837
00:35:31,664 --> 00:35:33,224
Speaker 2: and I just really loved it.

838
00:35:33,304 --> 00:35:35,624
Speaker 1: What a way to end public pleasure on or train.

839
00:35:35,824 --> 00:35:38,064
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's what all TV shows should have obviously.

840
00:35:38,464 --> 00:35:40,504
Speaker 1: Laura Rodnet, thank you for having me back. Thank you

841
00:35:40,544 --> 00:35:44,384
Speaker 1: for coming on and talking about basketball. I'm sure you

842
00:35:44,424 --> 00:35:45,264
Speaker 1: did well.

843
00:35:45,264 --> 00:35:47,144
Speaker 2: Thank you so much Taylor for joining us today, and

844
00:35:47,184 --> 00:35:49,184
Speaker 2: thank you to you all for listening to the spill.

845
00:35:49,224 --> 00:35:52,024
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00:36:06,984 --> 00:36:11,824
Speaker 3: Bye Byella.

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Speaker 4: Cll it love it,