1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,184 --> 00:00:25,984 Speaker 3: From Mamma Mia. 5 00:00:26,184 --> 00:00:29,064 Speaker 2: Welcome to this bill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm 6 00:00:29,144 --> 00:00:32,384 Speaker 2: Laura Brodneck and I'm cassemue lu Kitch. And coming up 7 00:00:32,424 --> 00:00:34,864 Speaker 2: on the show today, Sidney Sweeney has a new lover. 8 00:00:35,144 --> 00:00:37,544 Speaker 2: Apparently I've got a few holes to poke in. This 9 00:00:37,624 --> 00:00:40,584 Speaker 2: story does be in a lot of Internet uproar. Plus, 10 00:00:40,664 --> 00:00:44,544 Speaker 2: Sabrina Carpenter's controversial new album is finally here, but doesn't 11 00:00:44,584 --> 00:00:46,624 Speaker 2: live up to the hype from when she released that photo. 12 00:00:46,624 --> 00:00:49,504 Speaker 2: We're going to get into that, but first first, the 13 00:00:49,624 --> 00:00:53,264 Speaker 2: eighty second Venice Film Festival is back, and this film 14 00:00:53,304 --> 00:00:58,224 Speaker 2: festival is kind of synonymous with ridiculous standing ovations and 15 00:00:58,624 --> 00:01:01,184 Speaker 2: lots of moments, and it's also like where we kind 16 00:01:01,184 --> 00:01:05,264 Speaker 2: of see our first bits for Oscars Bars and Awards season. 17 00:01:05,784 --> 00:01:08,224 Speaker 1: So it's still going on. But there's a couple of 18 00:01:08,264 --> 00:01:10,144 Speaker 1: my favorite moments that I kind of want to chat 19 00:01:10,184 --> 00:01:13,344 Speaker 1: for today. The first one I want to go into 20 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:17,544 Speaker 1: is the new Frankenstein movie by Gamo de Torro, who 21 00:01:17,744 --> 00:01:23,784 Speaker 1: is a absolute wizard of filmmaking. So Jacob Alordi is 22 00:01:23,824 --> 00:01:28,504 Speaker 1: actually playing Frankenstein's monster. Now I know everybody, people who 23 00:01:28,704 --> 00:01:32,144 Speaker 1: are Frankenstein fans always get really into this, like Frankenstein 24 00:01:32,264 --> 00:01:35,784 Speaker 1: is not the monster. Frankenstein is the doctor who creates 25 00:01:35,864 --> 00:01:36,384 Speaker 1: the monster. 26 00:01:36,504 --> 00:01:38,264 Speaker 2: The monster doesn't have a name. That's the whole point 27 00:01:38,264 --> 00:01:40,504 Speaker 2: of his story is that he's not accepted by anyone. 28 00:01:40,824 --> 00:01:45,664 Speaker 1: Yes, So the film itself was received really, really well. 29 00:01:45,784 --> 00:01:50,104 Speaker 1: It got a fifteen minute standing ovation, which I mean, 30 00:01:50,184 --> 00:01:52,984 Speaker 1: look anywhere else would be huge. Venice, as you said, 31 00:01:53,104 --> 00:01:55,904 Speaker 1: is known for its long standing ovations, although some of 32 00:01:55,904 --> 00:01:58,104 Speaker 1: them have only been six or eight, so fifteen is 33 00:01:58,144 --> 00:02:00,984 Speaker 1: quite long. So I actually looked it up because I 34 00:02:01,024 --> 00:02:04,024 Speaker 1: was very curious about what the longest standing ovation was 35 00:02:04,104 --> 00:02:07,904 Speaker 1: at the Venice Film Festival. So the longest standing ovation 36 00:02:08,424 --> 00:02:11,624 Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty four, which was the Room next door. 37 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:14,624 Speaker 1: Can you imagine clapping the eighteen minutes. 38 00:02:14,864 --> 00:02:16,904 Speaker 2: I think it'd been like that horrible feeling you have 39 00:02:17,024 --> 00:02:18,984 Speaker 2: when you're standing in a room and everyone's seeing you 40 00:02:19,024 --> 00:02:21,384 Speaker 2: happy birthday, and it's like really fun for the first minute, 41 00:02:21,464 --> 00:02:22,904 Speaker 2: but after a while you don't know where to look 42 00:02:22,944 --> 00:02:23,904 Speaker 2: and what to do with your hands. 43 00:02:23,944 --> 00:02:26,104 Speaker 4: I feel like it'd be like that eighteen minutes is 44 00:02:26,144 --> 00:02:29,184 Speaker 4: a really long hour time I would have left. 45 00:02:29,224 --> 00:02:30,784 Speaker 2: But it does bode well for the movie because this 46 00:02:30,824 --> 00:02:32,624 Speaker 2: is the movie from the festival that I was most 47 00:02:32,664 --> 00:02:36,064 Speaker 2: excited to hear the responses. I love Guamanda Torro's film 48 00:02:36,184 --> 00:02:39,304 Speaker 2: so much, panslab Breath, Crimson Peak, and I also love 49 00:02:39,344 --> 00:02:42,144 Speaker 2: that he's taken a really strong stance against CGI and 50 00:02:42,184 --> 00:02:45,184 Speaker 2: special effects. He's like practical effects or nothing, and was like, 51 00:02:45,224 --> 00:02:46,624 Speaker 2: give this man an oscar. I don't even have to 52 00:02:46,624 --> 00:02:47,224 Speaker 2: see the movie. 53 00:02:47,264 --> 00:02:50,104 Speaker 1: Well, jacob Elordie was talking in the press about, you know, 54 00:02:50,224 --> 00:02:52,944 Speaker 1: having to spend ten hours in makeup, so we should. 55 00:02:53,104 --> 00:02:55,744 Speaker 1: The fact that he's Frankenstein's monster and still looks that 56 00:02:55,824 --> 00:02:56,504 Speaker 1: hot is. 57 00:02:57,464 --> 00:03:00,504 Speaker 2: Did you see during the ovation that Jacob Elordie was crying, No, 58 00:03:00,864 --> 00:03:03,224 Speaker 2: he was crying. He was just so Overcolm and it 59 00:03:03,264 --> 00:03:04,984 Speaker 2: really made me love him. I mean, I've only met 60 00:03:05,024 --> 00:03:06,784 Speaker 2: him briefly a few times, and he's lovely, but he's 61 00:03:06,984 --> 00:03:09,824 Speaker 2: very kind of stoic and moody and always looking down 62 00:03:09,904 --> 00:03:12,864 Speaker 2: and sometimes gives that air that he doesn't care about 63 00:03:12,864 --> 00:03:14,704 Speaker 2: these things as much. But he was looking around the 64 00:03:14,744 --> 00:03:17,464 Speaker 2: room and just watching everyone clap and knowing he just 65 00:03:17,584 --> 00:03:19,944 Speaker 2: opened this like Australian boy. He just opened this movie 66 00:03:20,024 --> 00:03:22,184 Speaker 2: the Venice Film Festival and he started crying and I 67 00:03:22,184 --> 00:03:23,984 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I just melted my cold dead heart. 68 00:03:24,144 --> 00:03:27,024 Speaker 1: I know, it's like when Brendan Fraser was crying for 69 00:03:27,064 --> 00:03:29,784 Speaker 1: the while. It's just I think when you as an 70 00:03:29,824 --> 00:03:35,264 Speaker 1: actor seeing basically your peers applauding you, and in this 71 00:03:35,344 --> 00:03:38,864 Speaker 1: case for that long, it would be quite an amazing feeling. Yeah. 72 00:03:39,104 --> 00:03:43,184 Speaker 1: But yeah, watching the Brendan Fraser tear up like made 73 00:03:43,184 --> 00:03:45,704 Speaker 1: May Tier up. So Jacob Bladi, same thing. So I'm 74 00:03:45,744 --> 00:03:48,664 Speaker 1: really excited about that movie. The other one that I'm 75 00:03:48,704 --> 00:03:52,024 Speaker 1: super excited about is Bogonia, which is the new Emma 76 00:03:52,104 --> 00:03:56,304 Speaker 1: Stone movie, and she kind of famously has shaped her 77 00:03:56,384 --> 00:03:59,344 Speaker 1: head for this. This is a film by Yogos Lanthemos, 78 00:03:59,384 --> 00:04:02,304 Speaker 1: who did one of my favorite movies of all time, 79 00:04:02,344 --> 00:04:06,024 Speaker 1: Poor Things. Absolutely love that movie. Emmastone was also in that. 80 00:04:06,704 --> 00:04:08,784 Speaker 1: But the big thing that the big takeaway from that 81 00:04:08,904 --> 00:04:11,264 Speaker 1: was talking about how she now bel eats aliens. 82 00:04:12,264 --> 00:04:14,424 Speaker 2: Yes, And when I first saw that quote, I got 83 00:04:14,544 --> 00:04:17,384 Speaker 2: very excited because I love when celebrities just unveil they 84 00:04:17,704 --> 00:04:20,264 Speaker 2: love weird things and I was like, is this like 85 00:04:20,384 --> 00:04:22,864 Speaker 2: Kesha talking about believing in ghosts? But it's a bit 86 00:04:22,864 --> 00:04:25,144 Speaker 2: different because Kesha had a demon crawl up her leg 87 00:04:25,184 --> 00:04:27,704 Speaker 2: and bite her, whereas Emma Stone, when you like watch 88 00:04:27,744 --> 00:04:29,864 Speaker 2: the full clip, she's not saying like I believe in 89 00:04:29,904 --> 00:04:31,864 Speaker 2: aliens and they're here and they're walking amongst us. 90 00:04:32,144 --> 00:04:33,384 Speaker 3: She was saying, which. 91 00:04:33,344 --> 00:04:35,904 Speaker 2: What I think most people believe really is what I believe, 92 00:04:36,024 --> 00:04:39,104 Speaker 2: is like the universe is so vast and wear such 93 00:04:39,104 --> 00:04:41,904 Speaker 2: a tire little speck. Of course there's something else out there, 94 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:44,584 Speaker 2: but she doesn't think they're walking around with us, which is. 95 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:45,304 Speaker 4: Also what I think. 96 00:04:45,424 --> 00:04:48,104 Speaker 1: I completely agree. And I think that the way that 97 00:04:48,184 --> 00:04:52,024 Speaker 1: it was clipped, it was like Emma Stone believes aliens. 98 00:04:52,184 --> 00:04:52,424 Speaker 1: I know. 99 00:04:52,504 --> 00:04:54,224 Speaker 2: I love that well because also she kind of was 100 00:04:54,224 --> 00:04:56,384 Speaker 2: a little laugh and she's like, look like she does know. 101 00:04:56,424 --> 00:04:58,064 Speaker 2: I think that she knows that's the moment that's going 102 00:04:58,144 --> 00:04:59,304 Speaker 2: to be clipped from the whole pressos. 103 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:00,744 Speaker 1: She's like, how do you know I'm not an alien 104 00:05:00,864 --> 00:05:01,824 Speaker 1: right now? 105 00:05:02,184 --> 00:05:05,024 Speaker 2: And I mean she is, like her face was looking lovely, 106 00:05:05,104 --> 00:05:07,144 Speaker 2: so she's looking very alien like in a beautiful way. 107 00:05:07,344 --> 00:05:07,544 Speaker 3: Yeah. 108 00:05:07,704 --> 00:05:09,584 Speaker 1: Well, the hairs started to grow out a little bit 109 00:05:09,904 --> 00:05:12,824 Speaker 1: like actually shaved her head for it. Yeah, but yeah, 110 00:05:12,824 --> 00:05:15,824 Speaker 1: it looks like there's some really great movies, some great 111 00:05:15,864 --> 00:05:20,504 Speaker 1: red carpet moments as well. One for me is I 112 00:05:20,504 --> 00:05:23,384 Speaker 1: don't know if did you say Rosy Hunting and Whitely? Yes, 113 00:05:23,744 --> 00:05:27,224 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that woman does not age. She was 114 00:05:27,264 --> 00:05:30,824 Speaker 1: wearing this beautiful white gown with her stomach bed and 115 00:05:30,864 --> 00:05:34,824 Speaker 1: I was just like, you just can do absolutely no wrong. 116 00:05:35,504 --> 00:05:35,704 Speaker 3: Yeah. 117 00:05:35,704 --> 00:05:37,504 Speaker 2: I think the fashion at Venice is always fun to 118 00:05:37,544 --> 00:05:40,104 Speaker 2: look at because everyone arrives via boat, so you had 119 00:05:40,104 --> 00:05:43,224 Speaker 2: that moment of them like descending from the boat and 120 00:05:43,264 --> 00:05:45,944 Speaker 2: walking along those little platforms and stuff. So it's just 121 00:05:45,944 --> 00:05:49,504 Speaker 2: different to like her traditional red carpet. But yeah, overall 122 00:05:49,544 --> 00:05:51,944 Speaker 2: everyone was looking very sexy. I thought it was interesting 123 00:05:51,944 --> 00:05:55,424 Speaker 2: how Sukie Waterhouse was getting like absolutely trolled for her outfit, 124 00:05:55,464 --> 00:05:57,624 Speaker 2: and I was like, leave that poor girl alone. She's 125 00:05:57,744 --> 00:05:59,624 Speaker 2: just had a hernia because she was her pants were 126 00:05:59,624 --> 00:06:01,064 Speaker 2: too tired and she said it calls to hernia. 127 00:06:01,144 --> 00:06:02,264 Speaker 3: So she just recovered from that. 128 00:06:02,584 --> 00:06:05,424 Speaker 2: Then she shows up in Venice and there's glitterally glittery 129 00:06:05,584 --> 00:06:09,024 Speaker 2: gold sequined two set piece with like stockings, and she 130 00:06:09,144 --> 00:06:11,624 Speaker 2: just looked I thought she I'm obsessed with her style, 131 00:06:11,944 --> 00:06:14,024 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh, this is what happens when you 132 00:06:14,064 --> 00:06:16,104 Speaker 2: put a foot wrong or you come to an event 133 00:06:16,144 --> 00:06:18,184 Speaker 2: too over dress like because they're saying it's too much 134 00:06:18,184 --> 00:06:20,304 Speaker 2: for a photo call. But I was like, the woman's 135 00:06:20,344 --> 00:06:22,424 Speaker 2: in Venice and she dresses like that all the time. 136 00:06:22,504 --> 00:06:23,184 Speaker 2: Just let her wear it. 137 00:06:23,264 --> 00:06:26,424 Speaker 1: And also Venice is like, there's just so many different events. 138 00:06:26,944 --> 00:06:28,424 Speaker 3: How could you even pick her out of a lineup? 139 00:06:28,664 --> 00:06:32,344 Speaker 1: There's photo calls, there's press junkets, there's the red carpets, 140 00:06:32,384 --> 00:06:35,104 Speaker 1: there's the opening. It's like, it's a lot. Can you 141 00:06:35,184 --> 00:06:40,384 Speaker 1: imagine having to prepare all of those outfits. I can't 142 00:06:40,384 --> 00:06:42,824 Speaker 1: even prepare an outfit for two shows a week. But 143 00:06:42,864 --> 00:06:44,584 Speaker 1: the other one that I did want to talk about 144 00:06:44,784 --> 00:06:49,624 Speaker 1: is Julia Roberts. Yes, so this has caused a little 145 00:06:49,664 --> 00:06:53,104 Speaker 1: bit of controversy. Her new film is called After the Hunt. 146 00:06:53,864 --> 00:06:57,144 Speaker 1: Reviews of the movie have been quite mixed because the 147 00:06:57,384 --> 00:07:01,144 Speaker 1: tone is basically, she plays a Yale professor who one 148 00:07:01,144 --> 00:07:05,584 Speaker 1: of her students accuses another student of sexual assault, and 149 00:07:06,344 --> 00:07:10,024 Speaker 1: the basic thing is Julia Roberts's character doesn't necessarily believe 150 00:07:10,064 --> 00:07:11,624 Speaker 1: her that this is a little bit of sweeping under 151 00:07:11,624 --> 00:07:13,984 Speaker 1: the rug, and all of this and the criticism is 152 00:07:13,984 --> 00:07:17,264 Speaker 1: basically that this is setting back for me too movement. 153 00:07:18,544 --> 00:07:23,624 Speaker 1: Julia Roberts's response was basically, this is like an art piece. 154 00:07:24,344 --> 00:07:27,464 Speaker 1: You can take it how you want. But I think 155 00:07:27,504 --> 00:07:31,304 Speaker 1: that taking it that seriously I understand why people do, 156 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:34,264 Speaker 1: because it is a very sensitive time, it's a sensitive topic. 157 00:07:35,104 --> 00:07:37,184 Speaker 1: But I do also think that it's a way of 158 00:07:37,384 --> 00:07:40,144 Speaker 1: critically looking at a film, like you got to look 159 00:07:40,144 --> 00:07:41,224 Speaker 1: at it in a critical way. 160 00:07:41,304 --> 00:07:43,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought her response was like quite. I mean again, 161 00:07:43,864 --> 00:07:45,664 Speaker 2: without having seen the movie, like I might have it, 162 00:07:45,744 --> 00:07:47,704 Speaker 2: I might have a really strong stance once I see it, 163 00:07:47,744 --> 00:07:49,784 Speaker 2: if it if I feel like it is pushing against 164 00:07:49,824 --> 00:07:51,704 Speaker 2: the me too movement. But I thought it was like 165 00:07:51,744 --> 00:07:55,344 Speaker 2: just really refreshing. How she obviously hadn't put any caveats 166 00:07:55,344 --> 00:07:57,824 Speaker 2: in place around like which questions she would and wouldn't answer. 167 00:07:58,184 --> 00:08:00,704 Speaker 2: She was getting thrown on and all those questions were 168 00:08:00,744 --> 00:08:02,064 Speaker 2: coming to her, and she was the one who was 169 00:08:02,144 --> 00:08:04,344 Speaker 2: jumping in to talk about it and sort of saying like, yeah, 170 00:08:04,464 --> 00:08:06,224 Speaker 2: like this is an art piece that's not meant to 171 00:08:06,904 --> 00:08:09,944 Speaker 2: be a huge commentary on right or wrong. And I 172 00:08:09,984 --> 00:08:12,384 Speaker 2: also just found it like just super refreshing. I guess 173 00:08:12,464 --> 00:08:14,784 Speaker 2: just to have her back in the mix as like her, 174 00:08:14,904 --> 00:08:16,984 Speaker 2: because she is like those kind of old school movie 175 00:08:16,984 --> 00:08:19,384 Speaker 2: stars that you don't make anymore, like the photos of 176 00:08:19,384 --> 00:08:20,944 Speaker 2: her getting off the boat, the photos of her going 177 00:08:20,984 --> 00:08:23,664 Speaker 2: down the red carpet, coming into a press conference and 178 00:08:23,704 --> 00:08:26,464 Speaker 2: being like the one who is leading the room. 179 00:08:26,544 --> 00:08:28,144 Speaker 3: There was even a moment in amongst. 180 00:08:27,864 --> 00:08:30,104 Speaker 2: All of those like tough questions about the subject matter 181 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:32,464 Speaker 2: where she just told all the interviewers to stop. And 182 00:08:32,504 --> 00:08:34,904 Speaker 2: then her co stars in the movie, Andrew gar Philip 183 00:08:34,904 --> 00:08:36,704 Speaker 2: and Io Debris were sitting there kind of. 184 00:08:36,704 --> 00:08:39,184 Speaker 4: I think a little bit shell shocked, like maybe iowe a. 185 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:40,624 Speaker 2: Little bit too, because she told me like this is 186 00:08:40,664 --> 00:08:42,864 Speaker 2: so intense, and she was like, so you guys are 187 00:08:42,864 --> 00:08:44,664 Speaker 2: gott to open the drinks in front of you, the cans. 188 00:08:44,744 --> 00:08:46,464 Speaker 2: Let's do it all at one goes the sound doesn't 189 00:08:46,464 --> 00:08:48,904 Speaker 2: get interrupted, then we're gonna ask answer your question, and 190 00:08:49,024 --> 00:08:51,224 Speaker 2: just kind of was like stage managing at all. And 191 00:08:51,264 --> 00:08:54,184 Speaker 2: then Andrew Garfield just starts hysterically laughing, and he was like, 192 00:08:54,184 --> 00:08:55,904 Speaker 2: this is so funny because this is how she was 193 00:08:55,944 --> 00:08:57,864 Speaker 2: on set all the time, like just telling IOW and 194 00:08:57,904 --> 00:09:00,504 Speaker 2: I what to do. And then she walked out of there, 195 00:09:00,544 --> 00:09:02,504 Speaker 2: and she saw Kate blanched across the room, and the 196 00:09:02,504 --> 00:09:04,504 Speaker 2: two of them started screaming and like jumping up and 197 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:06,424 Speaker 2: down and hugging. And I was like, even if you're 198 00:09:06,464 --> 00:09:08,184 Speaker 2: like the most famous from the world, like you see 199 00:09:08,184 --> 00:09:10,344 Speaker 2: your bestie across the room and you just slew your mind. 200 00:09:10,464 --> 00:09:13,224 Speaker 1: But it's also such a thing about her professionalism and 201 00:09:13,344 --> 00:09:16,864 Speaker 1: how experienced she is the fact that she knew, Okay, 202 00:09:16,864 --> 00:09:18,704 Speaker 1: we're not got to ruin. Sound like she just I 203 00:09:18,744 --> 00:09:22,424 Speaker 1: can so picture her being like that on set. There's 204 00:09:22,504 --> 00:09:25,184 Speaker 1: lots more to comm on the Venice Film Festival, lots 205 00:09:25,184 --> 00:09:28,024 Speaker 1: of great moments, but yeah, some really good movies that 206 00:09:28,064 --> 00:09:29,904 Speaker 1: I'm really really excited to see. 207 00:09:30,064 --> 00:09:33,864 Speaker 2: Bana Nana. So when I saw this story pop up 208 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:36,224 Speaker 2: over the weekend, I debated whether or not we would 209 00:09:36,224 --> 00:09:37,824 Speaker 2: even talk about in the Spill because it seems so 210 00:09:37,864 --> 00:09:39,904 Speaker 2: silly and so just like not a proper news story, 211 00:09:39,944 --> 00:09:42,064 Speaker 2: even though we do love those stories here at the Spill. 212 00:09:42,304 --> 00:09:43,584 Speaker 3: But then all of my group. 213 00:09:43,424 --> 00:09:46,344 Speaker 2: Chats filled with friends who don't work in entertainment and 214 00:09:46,384 --> 00:09:49,344 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with like, you know, celebrities, pop culture, 215 00:09:49,384 --> 00:09:51,544 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, were dropping the link for this 216 00:09:51,624 --> 00:09:52,384 Speaker 2: story and being. 217 00:09:52,264 --> 00:09:53,544 Speaker 1: Like, oh, my god, is this true? 218 00:09:53,624 --> 00:09:54,264 Speaker 4: Is this real? 219 00:09:54,744 --> 00:09:57,024 Speaker 2: I feel conflicted about it, and that is the fact 220 00:09:57,024 --> 00:10:00,264 Speaker 2: that Sidney Sweeney is allegedly dating Scooter Braun. 221 00:10:00,664 --> 00:10:03,024 Speaker 1: I have some feelings about this. Now. Scooter Braun is 222 00:10:03,264 --> 00:10:06,784 Speaker 1: famously kind of got a bit of a bad reputation 223 00:10:06,904 --> 00:10:09,704 Speaker 1: for being a bit of a douche, probably most well 224 00:10:09,744 --> 00:10:13,664 Speaker 1: known for taking Taylor Swift's entire catalog, you know, paying 225 00:10:13,664 --> 00:10:16,464 Speaker 1: her out. She finally got her catalog back back in May. 226 00:10:16,944 --> 00:10:20,224 Speaker 1: But you know, he doesn't have a great reputation. You know, 227 00:10:20,304 --> 00:10:23,344 Speaker 1: he discovered Justin Bieber. You know, there's been all this 228 00:10:23,384 --> 00:10:25,544 Speaker 1: stuff with now Justin Bieber having to pay him back 229 00:10:25,584 --> 00:10:28,224 Speaker 1: all this money. So the vibe I get from Scooter 230 00:10:28,264 --> 00:10:31,424 Speaker 1: Braun is not like my favorite. Obviously I don't know 231 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:34,224 Speaker 1: the guy, but the stories that come out about him. 232 00:10:34,584 --> 00:10:37,584 Speaker 1: If you're a Taylor stan you will hate Scooter Braun. 233 00:10:38,144 --> 00:10:43,024 Speaker 1: And seeing them potentially as a couple really gave me 234 00:10:43,104 --> 00:10:43,464 Speaker 1: the ick. 235 00:10:43,864 --> 00:10:45,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was the vibe of the many many 236 00:10:45,944 --> 00:10:49,104 Speaker 2: people who messaged me about this, saying like, oh my god, Synis, 237 00:10:49,104 --> 00:10:50,944 Speaker 2: when you're like I used to like her. I thought 238 00:10:50,944 --> 00:10:53,064 Speaker 2: she was a girl's girl, but she's obviously not. She's 239 00:10:53,064 --> 00:10:55,744 Speaker 2: a bad feminist, all these things that I don't super 240 00:10:55,824 --> 00:10:58,464 Speaker 2: agree with. I mean, the thing is, like, again, most 241 00:10:58,464 --> 00:11:01,304 Speaker 2: people know Scooter Braun from the whole Taylor Swift thing, 242 00:11:01,464 --> 00:11:03,864 Speaker 2: but I don't know if like dating him is like 243 00:11:04,104 --> 00:11:06,184 Speaker 2: meant to be a stab at Taylor Swift. But here's 244 00:11:06,184 --> 00:11:08,264 Speaker 2: the thing, I don't think they're dating at all. I 245 00:11:08,264 --> 00:11:09,864 Speaker 2: don't even think they've been in the same sort of 246 00:11:09,864 --> 00:11:12,584 Speaker 2: like space together for months. If you look at the stories. 247 00:11:12,624 --> 00:11:14,744 Speaker 2: It was first reported by The Star at the time 248 00:11:14,784 --> 00:11:17,184 Speaker 2: of recording. They've taken it down. It's still down so 249 00:11:17,224 --> 00:11:19,904 Speaker 2: you can't access it. So I'm just wondering if someone 250 00:11:19,944 --> 00:11:22,904 Speaker 2: from Sydney's camp made a call. But what it is 251 00:11:22,904 --> 00:11:25,984 Speaker 2: is from the Bezos wedding a few months ago, I know, 252 00:11:26,544 --> 00:11:28,544 Speaker 2: such a long time ago, and it was someone who 253 00:11:28,544 --> 00:11:31,544 Speaker 2: had taken a video of her and Scooter but other 254 00:11:31,624 --> 00:11:34,544 Speaker 2: people from the wedding walking to dinner and they're just 255 00:11:34,624 --> 00:11:36,824 Speaker 2: walking side by side and they're talking to each other, 256 00:11:36,824 --> 00:11:39,984 Speaker 2: but they're also talking to the people around them, and 257 00:11:40,024 --> 00:11:42,824 Speaker 2: so that video has like made its way online. The 258 00:11:42,824 --> 00:11:45,704 Speaker 2: Star picked up they ran it with the headline are 259 00:11:45,904 --> 00:11:49,144 Speaker 2: Sydney and Scooter Dating? Every other outlet has picked up 260 00:11:49,184 --> 00:11:51,384 Speaker 2: and run it, And I don't know if anyone's sort 261 00:11:51,384 --> 00:11:53,624 Speaker 2: of looking at the actual footage, which it just looks 262 00:11:53,664 --> 00:11:55,864 Speaker 2: like if you're at a wedding, especially a wedding like that, 263 00:11:55,864 --> 00:11:58,024 Speaker 2: that you would go into groups and go to dinner. 264 00:11:58,504 --> 00:12:00,224 Speaker 1: It's the same outfit she was wearing when it was 265 00:12:00,224 --> 00:12:02,864 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady and then there was thinking that, oh 266 00:12:02,944 --> 00:12:05,824 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and her are dating. Yeah, it's the exact 267 00:12:05,904 --> 00:12:09,624 Speaker 1: same day and the same photos and pictures, and it's 268 00:12:09,664 --> 00:12:13,864 Speaker 1: so interesting sing how you know, once someone writes something 269 00:12:14,064 --> 00:12:18,264 Speaker 1: and it's just this snowball effect and everybody picks it up. 270 00:12:18,624 --> 00:12:20,144 Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of agree with you. I 271 00:12:20,184 --> 00:12:24,704 Speaker 1: feel like they probably aren't dating because Sydney's PR team 272 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:27,424 Speaker 1: are in overdrive at the moment. She's had a not 273 00:12:27,584 --> 00:12:31,824 Speaker 1: so great couple of months, and I feel like she 274 00:12:32,264 --> 00:12:36,384 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be making something like this public after the 275 00:12:36,424 --> 00:12:39,224 Speaker 1: last few months. I mean, her PR team would probably 276 00:12:39,224 --> 00:12:40,904 Speaker 1: be telling her take a step back. 277 00:12:40,984 --> 00:12:41,184 Speaker 4: Yeah. 278 00:12:41,184 --> 00:12:42,944 Speaker 2: Well again, I mean, look, they could be dating, but 279 00:12:42,984 --> 00:12:46,504 Speaker 2: there's no videos or photos or anything of them together 280 00:12:46,744 --> 00:12:47,864 Speaker 2: since the Bezels weddings. 281 00:12:47,904 --> 00:12:49,584 Speaker 3: They would be really keeping it under wraps. 282 00:12:49,744 --> 00:12:51,904 Speaker 2: But also people thought she was dating Tom Brady, and 283 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:54,024 Speaker 2: then they thought she was dating Orlando Bloom from the 284 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:56,984 Speaker 2: same wedding. Comeber that whole situation because Orlando Bloom came 285 00:12:57,064 --> 00:13:00,264 Speaker 2: to Australia where Katie Perry was touring and then they 286 00:13:00,304 --> 00:13:02,784 Speaker 2: post about their breakup, so people thought they'd had some 287 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:05,504 Speaker 2: sort of a conversation about making it public and that 288 00:13:06,144 --> 00:13:08,624 Speaker 2: she was performing. So then Orlando went to the Bazel 289 00:13:08,664 --> 00:13:10,864 Speaker 2: sweating and he was pictured with Sydney, but again it 290 00:13:10,904 --> 00:13:12,664 Speaker 2: was the same thing. It was a big group photo 291 00:13:12,984 --> 00:13:14,824 Speaker 2: but cropped in so it looked like the two of 292 00:13:14,864 --> 00:13:17,144 Speaker 2: them were together. And then people were really angry at 293 00:13:17,184 --> 00:13:19,224 Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney then because they're like, oh my god, she's 294 00:13:19,264 --> 00:13:21,984 Speaker 2: got her claws into Orlando Bloom the moment he breaks 295 00:13:22,064 --> 00:13:23,984 Speaker 2: up with Katy Perry. I just think she's in that 296 00:13:24,064 --> 00:13:26,424 Speaker 2: stage now because she broke up with her long term 297 00:13:26,464 --> 00:13:29,584 Speaker 2: fiancee Jonathan a while ago. This is the first time 298 00:13:29,624 --> 00:13:32,384 Speaker 2: we've known her at this level of fame being single. 299 00:13:32,464 --> 00:13:35,144 Speaker 2: So now she's in that famous Hollywood single girl trap 300 00:13:35,384 --> 00:13:39,024 Speaker 2: where anytime she stands next to someone on a red carpet, 301 00:13:39,144 --> 00:13:41,464 Speaker 2: walks out of a restaurant with them, anything like that, 302 00:13:41,584 --> 00:13:44,784 Speaker 2: people assume they're dating yeah, and this happens. 303 00:13:44,784 --> 00:13:47,424 Speaker 1: All the time with people who were freshly single. And 304 00:13:47,464 --> 00:13:49,624 Speaker 1: I will say again, I'm going to talk about Orlando 305 00:13:49,664 --> 00:13:52,704 Speaker 1: Bloom's thighs in those images because he just wearing his 306 00:13:52,784 --> 00:13:55,064 Speaker 1: tiny little shots and I kind of hope that they 307 00:13:55,104 --> 00:13:57,544 Speaker 1: were dating, even though he just broken up with Katy Perry. 308 00:13:57,664 --> 00:14:01,064 Speaker 1: But yeah, so Sidney Sweeney as well. Because she's had 309 00:14:01,104 --> 00:14:04,904 Speaker 1: so much backlash and she's quite a sexual being, people 310 00:14:05,104 --> 00:14:09,744 Speaker 1: feel like they have a right to make these assumptions 311 00:14:09,784 --> 00:14:13,184 Speaker 1: about her. I don't know if it's true that they 312 00:14:13,184 --> 00:14:16,024 Speaker 1: are dating, which I don't really think it is. 313 00:14:16,504 --> 00:14:17,384 Speaker 4: I kind of wish they were. 314 00:14:17,424 --> 00:14:19,584 Speaker 2: It'd be interesting for the rest of us, it would 315 00:14:19,584 --> 00:14:21,944 Speaker 2: be very interesting. But I just don't you don't give 316 00:14:22,064 --> 00:14:24,624 Speaker 2: some meaning to our cold dead lives. But yeah, I 317 00:14:24,704 --> 00:14:26,344 Speaker 2: just don't think they are. But I also think what's 318 00:14:26,344 --> 00:14:28,344 Speaker 2: more interesting is that she would just from what we 319 00:14:28,384 --> 00:14:30,424 Speaker 2: know about her, she would just not care that the 320 00:14:30,464 --> 00:14:32,984 Speaker 2: world is debating at the moment whether she's a good feminist, 321 00:14:33,144 --> 00:14:35,704 Speaker 2: whether she's a good person, all these kinds of things. 322 00:14:35,984 --> 00:14:38,224 Speaker 2: It's just kind of like every week with her is 323 00:14:38,224 --> 00:14:40,384 Speaker 2: a new headline, some more serious than others. 324 00:14:40,904 --> 00:14:41,584 Speaker 4: Last week it was that. 325 00:14:41,664 --> 00:14:44,544 Speaker 2: Her new movie tanked at the Box Office Americana. And 326 00:14:44,544 --> 00:14:46,144 Speaker 2: then there's a bit obviously a bit more of their 327 00:14:46,184 --> 00:14:48,184 Speaker 2: backstory of like it was a smaller film, it wasn't 328 00:14:48,184 --> 00:14:50,184 Speaker 2: meant to be a blockbuster. You know, a lot of 329 00:14:50,224 --> 00:14:52,424 Speaker 2: movies are doing badly all these things. But I just 330 00:14:52,424 --> 00:14:54,344 Speaker 2: think she's become sort of that thing. Once you attach 331 00:14:54,384 --> 00:14:55,704 Speaker 2: her name to it, it's gonna. 332 00:14:55,464 --> 00:14:56,264 Speaker 3: Like make headlines. 333 00:14:56,544 --> 00:14:58,944 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing, I was looking through some Reddit 334 00:14:58,984 --> 00:15:01,864 Speaker 1: comments just to kind of see what the general response 335 00:15:02,064 --> 00:15:05,544 Speaker 1: was to this, and it basically was like, oh my god, 336 00:15:05,584 --> 00:15:08,984 Speaker 1: Scodeborn is the worst person ever. I hate him. She's 337 00:15:09,024 --> 00:15:12,024 Speaker 1: the worst person ever. I hate her. And also, you 338 00:15:12,064 --> 00:15:14,784 Speaker 1: know the age gap, which we've talked a lot about 339 00:15:14,824 --> 00:15:17,624 Speaker 1: age gap relationships here, but yeah, he's forty four, she's 340 00:15:17,664 --> 00:15:20,584 Speaker 1: twenty seven. He's got three kids with his ex wife. 341 00:15:20,904 --> 00:15:24,664 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just it just doesn't seem right. 342 00:15:24,864 --> 00:15:25,944 Speaker 4: I love how the. 343 00:15:25,704 --> 00:15:28,344 Speaker 2: Hollywood age gaps have desensitized me so much, as like 344 00:15:28,384 --> 00:15:29,784 Speaker 2: I saw their age gap and I was like, that 345 00:15:29,784 --> 00:15:30,264 Speaker 2: seems fun. 346 00:15:30,624 --> 00:15:33,104 Speaker 1: I agree, I'm so desensitized. 347 00:15:33,904 --> 00:15:36,464 Speaker 2: I was like, call me when she's twenty and he's eighty, 348 00:15:36,464 --> 00:15:38,584 Speaker 2: and then we'll have a conversation. But like that whole 349 00:15:38,584 --> 00:15:40,744 Speaker 2: thing is so messed up it like doesn't even feel 350 00:15:40,744 --> 00:15:41,264 Speaker 2: like a blip. 351 00:15:41,424 --> 00:15:44,784 Speaker 1: Okay, So our take is they are not dating? 352 00:15:45,304 --> 00:15:47,704 Speaker 2: Maybe yes, And I look forward to next time Sidney 353 00:15:47,704 --> 00:15:51,344 Speaker 2: Sweeney walks alongside a man her name being betrothed to his. 354 00:15:51,904 --> 00:15:54,024 Speaker 3: What a fun time to be single, Nana. 355 00:15:55,264 --> 00:15:59,264 Speaker 1: So, Sabrina Carpenter has released her seventh studio album, Man's 356 00:15:59,264 --> 00:16:02,944 Speaker 1: Best Friend, with the cover that was very, very controversial. 357 00:16:03,384 --> 00:16:06,424 Speaker 1: To take us through Sabrina Carpenter's new album, we have 358 00:16:06,504 --> 00:16:09,864 Speaker 1: our pop culture and social media editor Tina Burke. 359 00:16:09,624 --> 00:16:12,544 Speaker 5: Here, Hi Teeter, Hi, I'm excited. 360 00:16:13,144 --> 00:16:15,864 Speaker 1: Okay. So I listened to the whole album cover to cover. 361 00:16:15,984 --> 00:16:19,824 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it. It was sweet and quirky, and 362 00:16:19,984 --> 00:16:23,904 Speaker 1: I'm now even more obsessed with Sabrina Carpenter than I 363 00:16:23,984 --> 00:16:29,064 Speaker 1: already was. But people are still obsessed about this bloody cover. 364 00:16:29,704 --> 00:16:32,624 Speaker 1: And then now she's just released the new music video 365 00:16:32,744 --> 00:16:36,144 Speaker 1: for Tears, which is kind of like the second hit 366 00:16:36,304 --> 00:16:48,984 Speaker 1: song from the albums, and again people are talking about it. 367 00:16:49,264 --> 00:16:49,464 Speaker 4: Yeah. 368 00:16:49,464 --> 00:16:50,024 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 369 00:16:50,104 --> 00:16:52,504 Speaker 5: I mean the music video had been teased with like 370 00:16:52,544 --> 00:16:55,544 Speaker 5: this really old school Hollywood shot of her in the grass, 371 00:16:55,744 --> 00:16:57,624 Speaker 5: like she looks up and it's just got that really 372 00:16:57,704 --> 00:16:59,624 Speaker 5: like glowy soft feature and people always saying that's what 373 00:16:59,664 --> 00:17:01,584 Speaker 5: happens when you get like a Disney Channel kid in 374 00:17:01,624 --> 00:17:04,784 Speaker 5: the music industry, like they produce these really cinematic music videos, 375 00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:05,544 Speaker 5: which she's known for. 376 00:17:05,704 --> 00:17:07,064 Speaker 4: But she'd teased it. 377 00:17:07,104 --> 00:17:08,984 Speaker 5: There was a little tear drop coming down from the 378 00:17:09,024 --> 00:17:10,944 Speaker 5: A and the teaser, which made me should have told 379 00:17:11,024 --> 00:17:13,184 Speaker 5: us this song was not about crying. This song was 380 00:17:13,224 --> 00:17:15,744 Speaker 5: about something a bit spicier. But yeah, she released the 381 00:17:15,824 --> 00:17:19,064 Speaker 5: music video and it's just this like full glitter dance number, 382 00:17:19,224 --> 00:17:22,384 Speaker 5: drag Queens, Common Domingos in there. There's murder, of course 383 00:17:22,424 --> 00:17:24,024 Speaker 5: there is. There's even a joke about murder in the 384 00:17:24,064 --> 00:17:26,264 Speaker 5: music video, but it's a lot. It's very showy and 385 00:17:26,344 --> 00:17:27,184 Speaker 5: very grubby. 386 00:17:27,064 --> 00:17:29,064 Speaker 2: And it's got that thing that she's done before, of 387 00:17:29,104 --> 00:17:32,224 Speaker 2: like nods to very classic movies. I never thought I 388 00:17:32,264 --> 00:17:35,344 Speaker 2: had anything in common with Sabrina Carpenter because she's a shortlonde, 389 00:17:35,544 --> 00:17:37,824 Speaker 2: blooty pop star, and as much as I love her music, 390 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:39,744 Speaker 2: I never thought we'd be the kind of people to hang. 391 00:17:39,824 --> 00:17:42,424 Speaker 2: But the more I watch her music videos, and really 392 00:17:42,464 --> 00:17:44,344 Speaker 2: they're the music videos that excite me at the moment, 393 00:17:44,384 --> 00:17:46,744 Speaker 2: I feel like she goes old school, the way that 394 00:17:46,784 --> 00:17:48,704 Speaker 2: people used to do before social and that was their 395 00:17:48,744 --> 00:17:50,664 Speaker 2: only way to sell a song. She goes old school 396 00:17:50,704 --> 00:17:54,704 Speaker 2: with the production, but she references the greatest movies. Oh yeah, 397 00:17:54,704 --> 00:17:57,184 Speaker 2: and when she did Heather's and Death becomes her one 398 00:17:57,184 --> 00:17:59,904 Speaker 2: of my favorite movies. And this one's got Rocky Horror 399 00:17:59,904 --> 00:18:02,744 Speaker 2: Picture Show elements to it. When she's like the car's 400 00:18:02,784 --> 00:18:05,264 Speaker 2: broken down and she's got the Janet like costume on, 401 00:18:05,504 --> 00:18:07,944 Speaker 2: and she's crawling towards the old house and like peeks 402 00:18:07,944 --> 00:18:10,184 Speaker 2: in and sees the leg with the fishnets. 403 00:18:10,344 --> 00:18:12,144 Speaker 3: It's just like this little nod to movie. 404 00:18:11,864 --> 00:18:14,864 Speaker 1: Fans and Tina Rocky Horror Picture Show. 405 00:18:15,144 --> 00:18:15,984 Speaker 5: I've never seen it. 406 00:18:16,224 --> 00:18:17,224 Speaker 3: That's crazy to me. 407 00:18:17,424 --> 00:18:18,944 Speaker 5: So sorry, I'm so sorry. 408 00:18:19,224 --> 00:18:20,264 Speaker 1: It's so upsetting. 409 00:18:20,624 --> 00:18:22,424 Speaker 4: I know the reference. Do you know this Lively? 410 00:18:23,344 --> 00:18:23,904 Speaker 3: I think so. 411 00:18:24,384 --> 00:18:26,424 Speaker 5: I think you want to give me a little razzleduzzle 412 00:18:26,504 --> 00:18:32,744 Speaker 5: right here on the podcast chance, Oh my. 413 00:18:32,784 --> 00:18:35,784 Speaker 2: God, I'm not that one, beautiful Grammy take a step 414 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:36,784 Speaker 2: to them. 415 00:18:36,864 --> 00:18:39,704 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the hoop and everyone needs to do that. 416 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:41,904 Speaker 5: At like kids discos, you'd be in the RSL doing 417 00:18:41,944 --> 00:18:42,584 Speaker 5: the movies. 418 00:18:42,344 --> 00:18:44,144 Speaker 2: Which is why when you watch the movie that we 419 00:18:44,184 --> 00:18:45,584 Speaker 2: were all doing that when we were kids. 420 00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:48,024 Speaker 4: But you should watch it because you like whimsy. I 421 00:18:48,104 --> 00:18:50,504 Speaker 4: do like sexy movies. You like hot people. 422 00:18:50,744 --> 00:18:53,424 Speaker 5: This movie is all a weird little gap in my 423 00:18:53,464 --> 00:18:55,584 Speaker 5: life that my mum just forgot about maybe ten to 424 00:18:55,664 --> 00:18:58,784 Speaker 5: fifteen very culturally relevant films and never showed me them. 425 00:18:58,784 --> 00:19:00,384 Speaker 5: And then I grew up and I was like, it's 426 00:19:00,424 --> 00:19:02,024 Speaker 5: too late for me. I'm too far gone. 427 00:19:02,144 --> 00:19:04,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look, no, no, you're not too far gone. 428 00:19:04,064 --> 00:19:06,064 Speaker 2: We're going to get your help. You recently watched The 429 00:19:06,104 --> 00:19:08,704 Speaker 2: Princess Bribe for the first time, so now you're on 430 00:19:08,744 --> 00:19:10,824 Speaker 2: the right trajectory. I'm just coming in and fixing the 431 00:19:10,864 --> 00:19:13,344 Speaker 2: way your mother didn't parent you properly. But I'm going 432 00:19:13,344 --> 00:19:15,464 Speaker 2: to make sure Anne listens to this podcast. No don't, 433 00:19:17,744 --> 00:19:19,464 Speaker 2: and then you need to watch Rocky Horror Picture Show. 434 00:19:20,024 --> 00:19:21,464 Speaker 2: It's like permeated culture. 435 00:19:21,504 --> 00:19:21,984 Speaker 3: I love that this. 436 00:19:22,064 --> 00:19:24,064 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the magic of Sabrina Carpenter. Yes, 437 00:19:24,144 --> 00:19:26,424 Speaker 2: now we're talking about a classic movie because she's brought 438 00:19:26,424 --> 00:19:26,744 Speaker 2: to the four. 439 00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:28,664 Speaker 5: It is her magic though, because so many people had 440 00:19:28,664 --> 00:19:30,624 Speaker 5: never seen Death Becomes Her and then when she did. 441 00:19:30,544 --> 00:19:32,424 Speaker 1: Get Yeah, that's crazy. 442 00:19:32,664 --> 00:19:34,304 Speaker 5: But she's brought it up with like, you know, the 443 00:19:34,304 --> 00:19:36,424 Speaker 5: Taste music video. All these people who'd never heard of it, 444 00:19:36,464 --> 00:19:38,704 Speaker 5: suddenly they're like, let's get in there, let's watch this classic. 445 00:19:38,744 --> 00:19:40,664 Speaker 5: So that's her power, Sabrina, I will go home and 446 00:19:40,704 --> 00:19:43,504 Speaker 5: I will watch. I want to say Rocky Horror Picture 447 00:19:43,544 --> 00:19:44,584 Speaker 5: Show is the correct order. 448 00:19:44,504 --> 00:19:45,344 Speaker 4: Of those words. 449 00:19:46,904 --> 00:19:52,144 Speaker 1: Horrors. I think this kind of shows the intelligence and 450 00:19:52,264 --> 00:19:55,464 Speaker 1: the wit behind her, because you know, so many people 451 00:19:55,504 --> 00:19:58,264 Speaker 1: look at her as this like petite, little dumb blonde, 452 00:19:58,304 --> 00:20:01,904 Speaker 1: like she's got nothing to add, you know. But Rolling 453 00:20:01,944 --> 00:20:04,424 Speaker 1: Stone gave his album four out of five. And I 454 00:20:04,464 --> 00:20:07,824 Speaker 1: think the album itself is like very funny when you 455 00:20:07,864 --> 00:20:11,424 Speaker 1: listen to the lyrics and it's cheeky and quirky, and 456 00:20:11,824 --> 00:20:16,104 Speaker 1: she's leaning into this whole thing about the way that 457 00:20:16,184 --> 00:20:17,824 Speaker 1: men treat her and I love it. 458 00:20:18,064 --> 00:20:19,944 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think you're right, like she kind of 459 00:20:19,984 --> 00:20:21,704 Speaker 5: and I mean, she collaped with Dolly Parton, but she 460 00:20:21,744 --> 00:20:24,304 Speaker 5: sort of plays into that Dolly parton big Blonde and beautiful, 461 00:20:24,344 --> 00:20:27,064 Speaker 5: I'm just a dumb girl thing sometimes, but obviously in 462 00:20:27,104 --> 00:20:29,864 Speaker 5: a very sarcastic, jokey way. So then bringing this music 463 00:20:29,944 --> 00:20:32,144 Speaker 5: video to life where she once again kills man and 464 00:20:32,144 --> 00:20:33,664 Speaker 5: then in the video he comes to the door and 465 00:20:33,704 --> 00:20:35,224 Speaker 5: he's still alive, and she's like, wait, I have to 466 00:20:35,264 --> 00:20:37,184 Speaker 5: kill someone every video and she stabs him with her 467 00:20:37,224 --> 00:20:39,824 Speaker 5: still atto like so good. She's playing into this thing, 468 00:20:39,864 --> 00:20:41,824 Speaker 5: but she's doing it perfectly. And then I think, you know, 469 00:20:41,904 --> 00:20:44,624 Speaker 5: at this moment in time in the US, the way 470 00:20:44,664 --> 00:20:47,544 Speaker 5: that things are going to have some really prominent drag 471 00:20:47,624 --> 00:20:50,344 Speaker 5: queens featuring in your music video also shows where she's 472 00:20:50,384 --> 00:20:52,584 Speaker 5: aligning and what she's tapped into into, like in the 473 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:54,504 Speaker 5: culture as well. So it was really great to see 474 00:20:54,504 --> 00:20:56,784 Speaker 5: Common Domingo like front and center in this video. And 475 00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:58,864 Speaker 5: then he's sharing the clips everywhere and he's sharing like 476 00:20:58,944 --> 00:21:01,944 Speaker 5: protect the Dolls. I just think that was really beautiful. Yeah, yeah, 477 00:21:01,944 --> 00:21:03,384 Speaker 5: that's a really beautiful layer to it. 478 00:21:03,424 --> 00:21:04,944 Speaker 2: And again, like I think a lot of people think 479 00:21:04,984 --> 00:21:07,184 Speaker 2: that Sabrina Carpenter at the moment is just there for 480 00:21:07,304 --> 00:21:09,944 Speaker 2: kind of shock value. Yeah, from some of the things, 481 00:21:10,064 --> 00:21:12,064 Speaker 2: like was a whole uproar when she was touring that 482 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,784 Speaker 2: she would do like a different sex position every part 483 00:21:14,824 --> 00:21:16,864 Speaker 2: of the concert. And then mums were getting really upset. 484 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:18,864 Speaker 2: They're like, I brought my five year old to see her, 485 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:22,424 Speaker 2: and I was like maybe five year old, and if 486 00:21:22,464 --> 00:21:24,384 Speaker 2: she's allowed to be there. Just let her see it, 487 00:21:24,424 --> 00:21:25,864 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, don't know it's on Sabrina. 488 00:21:25,904 --> 00:21:27,344 Speaker 2: It's like as Sabrina said the time, She's like it 489 00:21:27,424 --> 00:21:29,384 Speaker 2: from me to parent your kids. And then there was 490 00:21:29,424 --> 00:21:31,584 Speaker 2: a whole uproar over this album, and now that it's 491 00:21:31,584 --> 00:21:34,344 Speaker 2: been released, people are sort of asking her what she 492 00:21:34,424 --> 00:21:36,584 Speaker 2: thinks of the uproar, and she's saying like, well, it's 493 00:21:36,624 --> 00:21:38,864 Speaker 2: not for the pearl clutches, but even the pearl clutches 494 00:21:39,304 --> 00:21:40,824 Speaker 2: might find something to like about it. 495 00:21:40,864 --> 00:21:41,144 Speaker 3: Yeah. 496 00:21:41,184 --> 00:21:42,784 Speaker 5: What was the guy She was like, I don't care 497 00:21:42,824 --> 00:21:47,944 Speaker 5: what Toby from Arkansas. Yeah, Toby was like, hey, I 498 00:21:48,344 --> 00:21:50,424 Speaker 5: love this album, but it's so true. It's very Taylor 499 00:21:50,504 --> 00:21:53,384 Speaker 5: Swift going. The chads and brads from the NFL like 500 00:21:53,584 --> 00:21:55,504 Speaker 5: to be like, well, I actually don't care about those men. 501 00:21:55,544 --> 00:21:57,064 Speaker 5: And in her interview with Gayl King, she was like 502 00:21:57,144 --> 00:21:59,944 Speaker 5: you afraid that? Again very Taylor Swift treatment to be like, 503 00:21:59,984 --> 00:22:01,424 Speaker 5: are you worried that men won't want to date you? 504 00:22:01,464 --> 00:22:03,104 Speaker 5: They'll hear this album? And she was like, I'm not 505 00:22:03,144 --> 00:22:03,744 Speaker 5: afraid of men. 506 00:22:04,064 --> 00:22:05,584 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love her. She's like, I'm not afraid of men. 507 00:22:05,744 --> 00:22:08,264 Speaker 2: And she's like, I mean sometimes I'm afraid of men 508 00:22:08,384 --> 00:22:10,304 Speaker 2: and obviously she's talking about the way any woman is 509 00:22:10,544 --> 00:22:13,584 Speaker 2: around afraid they can be terrifying, but she's not afraid 510 00:22:13,664 --> 00:22:16,024 Speaker 2: of hurting their feelings or of them not liking her 511 00:22:16,384 --> 00:22:18,944 Speaker 2: or them thinking Again, a lot of the uproar was 512 00:22:18,984 --> 00:22:22,064 Speaker 2: from men to this album cover. Like again, obviously there 513 00:22:22,064 --> 00:22:23,504 Speaker 2: were a lot of women who were upset too, And 514 00:22:23,544 --> 00:22:26,464 Speaker 2: I think it was a very hot debate, and there 515 00:22:26,504 --> 00:22:28,504 Speaker 2: were some good points made by many people. But to 516 00:22:28,544 --> 00:22:31,184 Speaker 2: her point, like she's making this herself, she's put it 517 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,304 Speaker 2: out there, she likes it, her family likes it. She's 518 00:22:33,304 --> 00:22:35,784 Speaker 2: addressed that point. People were like, oh, wearing her parents 519 00:22:35,824 --> 00:22:37,224 Speaker 2: and she's like, they saw it and they loved it. 520 00:22:37,864 --> 00:22:40,024 Speaker 5: Twenty five year old woman And what did you say, 521 00:22:40,104 --> 00:22:42,144 Speaker 5: Seventh Studio, this is not a child. 522 00:22:42,344 --> 00:22:42,824 Speaker 4: Yeah. 523 00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:45,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, she only released her previous album last year, so 524 00:22:45,944 --> 00:22:49,224 Speaker 1: she's like smashing this out. But I just think in 525 00:22:49,264 --> 00:22:52,504 Speaker 1: the Gal King interview on the CBS Monic, she's just 526 00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:56,704 Speaker 1: talking about like, I don't mind that people view me 527 00:22:56,904 --> 00:22:59,424 Speaker 1: in this certain way, and I just made me see 528 00:22:59,464 --> 00:23:02,104 Speaker 1: her in this very act. Just think she's a very 529 00:23:02,104 --> 00:23:05,464 Speaker 1: intelligent woman and I think she's lean into it. And 530 00:23:05,464 --> 00:23:07,944 Speaker 1: I actually think the discourse around the album cover makes 531 00:23:07,984 --> 00:23:09,944 Speaker 1: more sense when you listen to the music on the 532 00:23:09,984 --> 00:23:14,384 Speaker 1: actual album, yeah, because the whole thing is like teasing 533 00:23:15,184 --> 00:23:18,624 Speaker 1: that moment. Like one of my favorites is the Never 534 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:21,664 Speaker 1: Getting Laid song. Yeah, So one of the lines in 535 00:23:21,704 --> 00:23:24,824 Speaker 1: it is just like, I just hope you get agoraphobia someday. 536 00:23:25,584 --> 00:23:28,544 Speaker 1: I wish you a lifetime of happiness and forever never 537 00:23:28,584 --> 00:23:32,744 Speaker 1: getting laid, which I'm like, that is just like hilarious. Yes, 538 00:23:32,944 --> 00:23:35,944 Speaker 1: but it's just like ballad. So she's kind of doing 539 00:23:35,984 --> 00:23:39,944 Speaker 1: this like thing and it's just witty and cute and fun, 540 00:23:40,104 --> 00:23:42,224 Speaker 1: and it makes sense as to why she would do 541 00:23:42,264 --> 00:23:44,264 Speaker 1: an album cover like that. 542 00:23:44,584 --> 00:23:45,064 Speaker 3: Yeah. 543 00:23:45,104 --> 00:23:48,744 Speaker 5: And again, adult woman in a consensual sexual position on 544 00:23:48,784 --> 00:23:51,224 Speaker 5: her own album cover, Like, I don't think for me, 545 00:23:51,504 --> 00:23:53,024 Speaker 5: and I read an article about it at the time. 546 00:23:53,424 --> 00:23:56,104 Speaker 5: She's not my enemy in feminism for that cover. For 547 00:23:56,144 --> 00:24:01,384 Speaker 5: that album cover, that's certain, but okay, on the album cover. 548 00:24:01,504 --> 00:24:03,024 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm the only one who has 549 00:24:03,064 --> 00:24:06,064 Speaker 5: this take, But there was obviously so much conversation around 550 00:24:06,064 --> 00:24:07,984 Speaker 5: that album cover because it was her and her hands 551 00:24:08,024 --> 00:24:11,824 Speaker 5: and knees and her glorious blonde hair extensions were all 552 00:24:11,864 --> 00:24:13,784 Speaker 5: over the place, and there's this guy saying next to her, 553 00:24:13,784 --> 00:24:16,304 Speaker 5: who's like holding her up by their hair, And as 554 00:24:16,304 --> 00:24:18,184 Speaker 5: you were saying, some people were really upset about that, 555 00:24:18,624 --> 00:24:20,584 Speaker 5: and she was kind of eluding the whole time. 556 00:24:20,624 --> 00:24:22,864 Speaker 2: She's like, wait to listen to the album. It'll makes sense. 557 00:24:22,944 --> 00:24:25,104 Speaker 2: Just wait, And it does to an extent. But I 558 00:24:25,184 --> 00:24:27,704 Speaker 2: just feel like she promised us this big kind of 559 00:24:27,784 --> 00:24:31,104 Speaker 2: bombshell controversy or something, and then when I listened to 560 00:24:31,144 --> 00:24:32,704 Speaker 2: the album, like, oh, this is a nice album and 561 00:24:32,744 --> 00:24:34,704 Speaker 2: I like it and I'll play it a lot. I 562 00:24:34,704 --> 00:24:37,544 Speaker 2: feel like the bigger moment in this release was the 563 00:24:37,584 --> 00:24:39,944 Speaker 2: album cover, and then the actual album didn't live up 564 00:24:39,984 --> 00:24:41,384 Speaker 2: to the controversy or promise. 565 00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:43,464 Speaker 5: I did expect maybe a song that was a bit 566 00:24:43,504 --> 00:24:45,664 Speaker 5: more addressing kind of what people thought of the cover, 567 00:24:45,864 --> 00:24:48,624 Speaker 5: especially with the title right Man's best Friend, the joke 568 00:24:48,664 --> 00:24:51,104 Speaker 5: about it being like men treat women like dogs, the 569 00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:53,184 Speaker 5: fact that she's been carrying dogs around everywhere with her. 570 00:24:53,544 --> 00:24:55,304 Speaker 5: You would think the given that she said that she 571 00:24:55,344 --> 00:24:57,064 Speaker 5: was like, just wait, just wait, just wait, there might 572 00:24:57,144 --> 00:24:59,624 Speaker 5: have been a song that was a bit more like feminist, still, 573 00:24:59,624 --> 00:25:02,064 Speaker 5: like a song that was addressing that concept at least, 574 00:25:02,264 --> 00:25:05,224 Speaker 5: or a stunt or something something stunting people thought that 575 00:25:05,264 --> 00:25:06,824 Speaker 5: you might zoom out the album picture and it was 576 00:25:06,864 --> 00:25:08,624 Speaker 5: one of her girlfriends holding her hair or so I 577 00:25:08,664 --> 00:25:09,784 Speaker 5: think always. 578 00:25:09,544 --> 00:25:10,504 Speaker 3: Going to be her. 579 00:25:10,744 --> 00:25:12,944 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted, and I feel like we gave her. 580 00:25:12,944 --> 00:25:14,984 Speaker 2: And even if that wasn't the original idea, I said 581 00:25:14,984 --> 00:25:17,184 Speaker 2: at the time, Sidney Sweeney, like, even if you haven't 582 00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:19,224 Speaker 2: done this, get on it and do it now, because 583 00:25:19,264 --> 00:25:21,024 Speaker 2: that would be so good if it zoomed out and 584 00:25:21,064 --> 00:25:23,464 Speaker 2: it was her pulling her own hair. And so we 585 00:25:23,464 --> 00:25:25,784 Speaker 2: were all looking for this big reveal and hidden meaning, 586 00:25:25,864 --> 00:25:28,144 Speaker 2: and then maybe that's a lesson itself. We're all looking 587 00:25:28,144 --> 00:25:29,864 Speaker 2: for this big hidden meeting and she's like, no, no, 588 00:25:29,904 --> 00:25:31,464 Speaker 2: it's just me on the floor getting my hair pulled, 589 00:25:31,504 --> 00:25:32,264 Speaker 2: and that's it. 590 00:25:32,344 --> 00:25:32,944 Speaker 3: And there's nothing. 591 00:25:32,984 --> 00:25:34,664 Speaker 4: There's no big reveal, there's no bigger meaning. 592 00:25:34,944 --> 00:25:37,864 Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys wanted more from like another little 593 00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:42,264 Speaker 1: controversial I feel like. So I was so happy with it, 594 00:25:42,384 --> 00:25:44,344 Speaker 1: Like I listened to it. I listened to the interview 595 00:25:44,344 --> 00:25:46,784 Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, this all makes sense now, 596 00:25:47,104 --> 00:25:50,504 Speaker 1: Like I wasn't looking for another controversial moment from it. 597 00:25:50,584 --> 00:25:52,344 Speaker 5: I think had she not built it up, and she 598 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:55,304 Speaker 5: built it, probably wouldn't have either, and I did listen 599 00:25:55,344 --> 00:25:56,664 Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm having a fun time. 600 00:25:56,824 --> 00:25:59,064 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm having a fun time, But I just feel 601 00:25:59,064 --> 00:26:00,304 Speaker 4: like it was it was kind of like. 602 00:26:00,264 --> 00:26:03,984 Speaker 2: A dropped story pot in a movie where you just like, oh, hey, 603 00:26:04,024 --> 00:26:06,104 Speaker 2: like I liked the ending, but like, what was that 604 00:26:06,144 --> 00:26:08,224 Speaker 2: thing at the beginning that we were promised kind of vibe. 605 00:26:08,384 --> 00:26:10,704 Speaker 2: But I guess like she does like to do these 606 00:26:10,744 --> 00:26:13,504 Speaker 2: little hints of controversy that sometimes she thinks they're going 607 00:26:13,544 --> 00:26:15,664 Speaker 2: to be controversial, and sometimes she doesn't, whether it's like 608 00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:18,144 Speaker 2: her performance or what she wears or things she says, 609 00:26:18,184 --> 00:26:21,024 Speaker 2: but then she wants to keep it like very reserved 610 00:26:21,064 --> 00:26:22,904 Speaker 2: when she's doing the media around. It's like in that 611 00:26:22,944 --> 00:26:26,344 Speaker 2: Gail King interview, first of all, when Gail says, oh, 612 00:26:26,424 --> 00:26:29,904 Speaker 2: Barry Keagan, you've referenced him, And I had this horrible 613 00:26:29,904 --> 00:26:32,584 Speaker 2: thought of have I been saying that man's name, that little, tiny, 614 00:26:32,984 --> 00:26:35,904 Speaker 2: tiny Irish hot gremlin man. Have I been saying his 615 00:26:35,984 --> 00:26:38,264 Speaker 2: name wrong? But it was Gail King who was wrong. Yes, 616 00:26:38,384 --> 00:26:39,104 Speaker 2: And then she's. 617 00:26:38,944 --> 00:26:42,184 Speaker 1: Actually really just nice because sometimes I say things wrong 618 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:43,824 Speaker 1: and if Gail King can mess. 619 00:26:43,624 --> 00:26:46,264 Speaker 2: It up, then you know she like so judgment I've 620 00:26:46,264 --> 00:26:47,944 Speaker 2: said more wrong things today and that woman said in 621 00:26:47,944 --> 00:26:48,464 Speaker 2: her whole life. 622 00:26:48,504 --> 00:26:49,224 Speaker 3: So it's fine. 623 00:26:49,424 --> 00:26:53,264 Speaker 2: But you can just see Sabrina's face and interview, she's 624 00:26:53,304 --> 00:26:56,624 Speaker 2: like nodding and she's smiling, and her face just like 625 00:26:56,744 --> 00:27:00,024 Speaker 2: closes off and goes blank when it gets mentioned, because 626 00:27:00,304 --> 00:27:02,504 Speaker 2: she's like, I'll never say who it's about, and I'll 627 00:27:02,544 --> 00:27:04,304 Speaker 2: never say who I'm dating. I'll never say this, and 628 00:27:04,304 --> 00:27:06,344 Speaker 2: that it's up to you to work it out. So 629 00:27:06,384 --> 00:27:08,144 Speaker 2: that's what I'm like. If she's saying that, is there 630 00:27:08,144 --> 00:27:09,584 Speaker 2: more that we just haven't worked out yet? 631 00:27:09,624 --> 00:27:12,504 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's a really fantastic line or like a 632 00:27:12,504 --> 00:27:14,384 Speaker 5: few lines in Go Go Juice, which is such a 633 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:16,824 Speaker 5: fun song, Just Go Go Juice, Come on now, we 634 00:27:17,144 --> 00:27:19,984 Speaker 5: all love a drink. But she kind of lists her exes, 635 00:27:20,024 --> 00:27:21,704 Speaker 5: but she lists them as different names. So she says 636 00:27:21,784 --> 00:27:25,704 Speaker 5: John for Sean Menders, she says Larry for Barry Keen, 637 00:27:25,864 --> 00:27:28,344 Speaker 5: and then she says rhymes with a villain for Dylan O'Brien. 638 00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:30,264 Speaker 4: That's just such a. 639 00:27:30,184 --> 00:27:33,304 Speaker 5: Fun way because she knows, you know, everyone's already guessing 640 00:27:33,544 --> 00:27:36,424 Speaker 5: or they've figured out who's who. All of her romances 641 00:27:36,424 --> 00:27:38,744 Speaker 5: have been papped and publicized and all of that, so 642 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:40,744 Speaker 5: she knows everyone knows she's dated, so she's kind of 643 00:27:40,784 --> 00:27:41,984 Speaker 5: just like, well, fine, I'll have fun with it. 644 00:27:42,144 --> 00:27:45,664 Speaker 1: I also love how she's like Gayega asked her, you 645 00:27:45,704 --> 00:27:49,144 Speaker 1: know these guys mine, and she's like, they kind of 646 00:27:49,184 --> 00:27:50,504 Speaker 1: like it. It's kind of fun for them. 647 00:27:50,744 --> 00:27:50,984 Speaker 3: Yeah. 648 00:27:52,624 --> 00:27:55,464 Speaker 1: That was so the opposite to what Taylor Swiss treatment was. 649 00:27:55,784 --> 00:27:58,904 Speaker 1: Every time she broke up with someone, it was like like, 650 00:27:59,024 --> 00:28:02,344 Speaker 1: leave me alone, I'm allowed to write a song. Yeah, 651 00:28:02,384 --> 00:28:06,464 Speaker 1: whereas now Sabrina's like, no, I love it, they love it. 652 00:28:06,464 --> 00:28:06,944 Speaker 1: It's fun. 653 00:28:07,064 --> 00:28:08,904 Speaker 2: It'd be worse if you with a guy left off 654 00:28:08,944 --> 00:28:11,184 Speaker 2: the album like no one wants to be album, like 655 00:28:11,224 --> 00:28:15,304 Speaker 2: no one wants to he's walking out with his new girlfriend. 656 00:28:15,304 --> 00:28:17,624 Speaker 2: He's fine, but you know he was a tailorsa for 657 00:28:17,744 --> 00:28:20,024 Speaker 2: six years and barely got a mention on her album, 658 00:28:20,104 --> 00:28:22,344 Speaker 2: or as Maddie Healy after like what six weeks was 659 00:28:22,384 --> 00:28:23,504 Speaker 2: like in the weeds of it. 660 00:28:23,664 --> 00:28:25,344 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you don't want to be the man who's 661 00:28:25,384 --> 00:28:26,024 Speaker 3: not mentioned. 662 00:28:26,104 --> 00:28:29,544 Speaker 1: But yeah, you've made so little of an impact on 663 00:28:29,664 --> 00:28:34,024 Speaker 1: a pop star who is synonymous with making songs about 664 00:28:34,024 --> 00:28:36,304 Speaker 1: the axes that you don't get a mentioned. 665 00:28:36,544 --> 00:28:38,264 Speaker 2: Do we know what the singles are going to be 666 00:28:38,304 --> 00:28:40,464 Speaker 2: next or what else is coming from this. I've had 667 00:28:40,504 --> 00:28:41,784 Speaker 2: like one music video. 668 00:28:41,664 --> 00:28:43,904 Speaker 5: We have and a lot of people think. So there 669 00:28:43,944 --> 00:28:46,664 Speaker 5: was a picture that was teased maybe two weeks ago 670 00:28:46,744 --> 00:28:48,464 Speaker 5: now and it's like a guy on a stool, his 671 00:28:48,544 --> 00:28:50,504 Speaker 5: back's to the camera and she's cressing his hair and 672 00:28:50,504 --> 00:28:52,504 Speaker 5: people have lined up the curls on his head to 673 00:28:52,544 --> 00:28:53,304 Speaker 5: Petro Pascal. 674 00:28:53,664 --> 00:28:56,144 Speaker 2: What that's so good? I lost the amount of time 675 00:28:56,144 --> 00:28:58,664 Speaker 2: people have. That is the perfect use of your time. 676 00:28:58,784 --> 00:28:59,864 Speaker 4: But it's use of free will. 677 00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:02,384 Speaker 5: And obviously, like they did that skit together on SNL, 678 00:29:02,464 --> 00:29:04,384 Speaker 5: so they've met before and have a bond, and like 679 00:29:04,744 --> 00:29:06,504 Speaker 5: people think he might be the next star of the 680 00:29:06,584 --> 00:29:07,184 Speaker 5: music video. 681 00:29:07,304 --> 00:29:08,144 Speaker 3: That would be so great. 682 00:29:08,304 --> 00:29:11,704 Speaker 5: I'm kind of thinking it could be housed or possibly 683 00:29:11,704 --> 00:29:12,344 Speaker 5: go go juice. 684 00:29:12,504 --> 00:29:13,104 Speaker 4: Oh great. 685 00:29:13,304 --> 00:29:15,984 Speaker 5: My favorite thing about house Tour. If you haven't listened yet, 686 00:29:15,984 --> 00:29:18,544 Speaker 5: you should. It's a like joky song about inviting a 687 00:29:18,584 --> 00:29:20,264 Speaker 5: man back to your place and like she's like, no, 688 00:29:20,304 --> 00:29:22,184 Speaker 5: I'll give you the house tour, but the joke is 689 00:29:22,184 --> 00:29:24,264 Speaker 5: like I'll show you the first, second, third floor and 690 00:29:24,264 --> 00:29:25,864 Speaker 5: I'm like, in this economy. 691 00:29:25,544 --> 00:29:29,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, and come upstairs. 692 00:29:29,984 --> 00:29:33,824 Speaker 5: It's very very sau and she jokes about having chips 693 00:29:33,824 --> 00:29:35,704 Speaker 5: a hoy in the cupboard, which is like a type 694 00:29:35,744 --> 00:29:37,704 Speaker 5: of cookie, And I was like, Sabrina, I'm scandalized. 695 00:29:37,744 --> 00:29:39,424 Speaker 3: Not the cookies. That's such a like. 696 00:29:40,024 --> 00:29:42,024 Speaker 4: Kiera Sierra reference love. 697 00:29:42,584 --> 00:29:43,824 Speaker 1: It's cheeky, it's. 698 00:29:43,704 --> 00:29:45,704 Speaker 4: Cheeky, it's very funny, seeky. 699 00:29:45,904 --> 00:29:46,624 Speaker 3: I think part of the. 700 00:29:46,544 --> 00:29:48,784 Speaker 5: Fun of say not to keep comparing her to Taylor, 701 00:29:48,784 --> 00:29:50,144 Speaker 5: but she is a Tay daughter in a way. 702 00:29:50,224 --> 00:29:52,784 Speaker 4: But sometimes they like that thing. 703 00:29:53,064 --> 00:29:55,464 Speaker 5: But where Taylor's is often like what's the heartbreak? What's 704 00:29:55,504 --> 00:29:58,904 Speaker 5: the poetry? Like Sabrina's is what's this silly innuendo? So 705 00:29:58,944 --> 00:30:00,104 Speaker 5: you have a good time listening? 706 00:30:00,184 --> 00:30:02,184 Speaker 2: No, we were having a great time. Well, I hope 707 00:30:02,184 --> 00:30:04,384 Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal pops up. I know people are saying he's 708 00:30:04,424 --> 00:30:06,464 Speaker 2: over it so exposed at the moment, but I think 709 00:30:06,504 --> 00:30:07,184 Speaker 2: he should just. 710 00:30:07,264 --> 00:30:11,144 Speaker 4: You know, do one perfect extra exposure. Yeah, I'd love him. 711 00:30:10,984 --> 00:30:13,104 Speaker 3: To expose himself in this way. Is a full say 712 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:14,624 Speaker 3: off at She was. 713 00:30:14,624 --> 00:30:17,504 Speaker 1: Very tight lipped about the Taylor Swift collabor so we've 714 00:30:17,504 --> 00:30:19,464 Speaker 1: not got to hear anything else about. 715 00:30:19,264 --> 00:30:22,544 Speaker 5: No, But the VMA's the next week, and I'm I'm 716 00:30:22,584 --> 00:30:25,664 Speaker 5: on the lookout. We'll obviously hopefully get a Sabrina performance 717 00:30:25,664 --> 00:30:27,944 Speaker 5: of Tears get the vms. If you remember last year, 718 00:30:27,984 --> 00:30:29,584 Speaker 5: she did like a fantastic mash up of all her 719 00:30:29,624 --> 00:30:32,344 Speaker 5: shorten sweet songs that was really great. She's such a 720 00:30:32,384 --> 00:30:34,504 Speaker 5: good life performer. So I'm thinking we'll get a Tears 721 00:30:34,784 --> 00:30:36,784 Speaker 5: maybe the teas of like a second single. 722 00:30:36,944 --> 00:30:37,984 Speaker 3: We'll know which one's coming. 723 00:30:38,344 --> 00:30:41,104 Speaker 5: But then you know, hopefully a Taylor appearance too. 724 00:30:40,864 --> 00:30:41,984 Speaker 3: And we'll see them together. 725 00:30:42,864 --> 00:30:43,304 Speaker 4: Love that. 726 00:30:43,464 --> 00:30:43,704 Speaker 2: Hmm. 727 00:30:43,784 --> 00:30:46,544 Speaker 1: Okay, well, TV, thank you so much for joining us 728 00:30:46,584 --> 00:30:48,984 Speaker 1: and giving us a little bit of your take on 729 00:30:49,024 --> 00:30:51,544 Speaker 1: the new album. Let us know what you guys think, 730 00:30:51,584 --> 00:30:55,064 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's even more goss in the album. 731 00:30:55,504 --> 00:30:57,744 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you want to bop but also maybe feel sad, 732 00:30:57,904 --> 00:31:00,264 Speaker 5: I recommend you listen to Nobody's Son because I always 733 00:31:00,264 --> 00:31:02,944 Speaker 5: want to. I was like really driving along doing my 734 00:31:02,984 --> 00:31:05,984 Speaker 5: work on Friday listening and then I was like, wait, no, 735 00:31:06,104 --> 00:31:07,384 Speaker 5: this is depressing and wait. 736 00:31:07,584 --> 00:31:09,424 Speaker 4: Sobby, I was like, wait, is this about me being 737 00:31:09,464 --> 00:31:11,664 Speaker 4: single and sad? Party on? 738 00:31:12,064 --> 00:31:13,384 Speaker 5: Have a listen, guys, it's a good time. 739 00:31:13,544 --> 00:31:15,864 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for listening to the Spill today, 740 00:31:15,944 --> 00:31:19,344 Speaker 1: and thank you TV for joining us right at the end. Now, 741 00:31:19,384 --> 00:31:22,104 Speaker 1: don't forget to follow this Spill on TikTok and Instagram. 742 00:31:22,104 --> 00:31:24,984 Speaker 1: The Spill is produced by Nisha Esquarren with sound production 743 00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:27,704 Speaker 1: by Scott Stronik. We'll see you back here in your 744 00:31:27,744 --> 00:31:30,064 Speaker 1: podcast speed for all of the celeb headlines at eight 745 00:31:30,104 --> 00:31:33,664 Speaker 1: am tomorrow with Morning Tea, and back with another episode 746 00:31:33,704 --> 00:31:35,784 Speaker 1: of the Spill at three o'clock tomorrow. 747 00:31:35,984 --> 00:31:38,144 Speaker 4: Bye Bye, b.